Is it better to plug effects into the effects loop, or the input of your amplifier?
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Hey everyone!
I get asked this question a lot - Should you run your Ampero, GE200, (insert product here) into the effects loop or the input of my amplifier. what if I dont have an effects loop, can I still run them into the input? In this video I show you a few different options for hooking up your Ampero, ge200, etc. and what the differences are. Hopefully this will help you figure out how you want to use your effects!
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Jason x
Thx a million …searched everywhere for over 2 months to figure out how to connect a multi effects processor that’s not equipped with “send/return “ to an FX Loop.
Yes, finally a video talking about using it with the sound of your amp.
Maaan! Thanks a lot! I was going to do same by myselft, when i receive my unit, but you made my life easier, posting that video :D
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got it. third method is what I was looking for with distortion
finally someone , who makes it easy.
Suggestion: You can share digital adjustments for differents effects like reverbs, echoes, phaser, pitchshifters, etc. Specially for distortion embelishment 😜🤘🤘
I thought your video destroyed my MacBook speakers for a moment because I heard insane clippy popping sounds, and then I was relieved to find it was your background music.
13:25 killer riffage bro, really liked it
It is very useful topic for beginners. Great job! I have similiar observations. It took me a while to understand how it works by myself but it was worth 😎
Another great demo. Keep up the excellent work.
This is AWESOME!!! I’ve been looking everywhere for something other than the 4 cable method. It’s been driving me crazy. I have a simple stomplab 1g and I can’t find anything on hooking it up to the effects loop.
You simply do an awesome job! Keep up the great work! So I could use just the modulation and delay effects and run through the effects loop on my 5150? On the horror front, going to see Joe Bob Briggs next week for a private screening of My Bloody Valentine. Can't wait!
Thanks!! Yeah, you can totally run a mod through the fx loop. Awesome on the horror screening!
I have had some great success running my Helix Amp models, no cabs into the front of my 2009 JCM2000 DSL100 Clean Channel. I run the clean gain around 3 o'clock. Still very very clean. Then run the master volume high, I run it at 5, doing this gives the modelers plenty of headroom, run your eq on the amp to taste, use the Helix/Modeler volume for your master. From low late night volumes to gig volumes, it crushes. Pretty amazing.
I wanna try that!
Here's a question, did you turn on global eq in modeler??
@@panggun nope
Thanks Taylor this was very helpful 🙂
alas, thank you for your lesson.
what if you ran the amps preamp through the fx loop of the ampero
HELP!?
I have older gear. Here's what I want to do.
Line 6 firehawk fx into Marshall Haze 40, use the marshalls distortion, use all other effects from firehawk, then into a Beringer 32 ban eq rack, then into a bbe sonic maximizer rack, then into my recording device. I'd like to use my amps tone
Hey, Can you do a video showing the difference between plug ge 200 usb direct on pc and plug on your interface?
Thanks for you videos, its help us a lot!
"How it sound" is what i mean.
Yes please!!!
10:42 was that a fart? LOL. Great video! Subscribed!
Question buddy.1st love ur channel, your review of the ampero is why I got one. I asked on the ampero facebook page how to hook up the ampero to a amp head and here's what I was told. Come out of my send of my effects loop to the input of the ampero come out of the left output of the ampero into the return of the amp.I have the guitar plugged into the input of the blackstar.thats all he said. My amp head is a blackstar ID core 150 head and the effects loop shares a emulated out. In the blackstar editor you can turn the effects loop off and on
What I'm really wanting to do is use the ampero effects and cab irs.thanks for any help
You like horror, have you seen “the cabinet of dr. Caligari” ? Badass film. Also, i really like Orphan, and Alien.
Do these connections work with amp sims on computer like Neural Dsp ?
The input of the amp means preamp not power amp right ? Im going to buy the katana 50 but dont have fx loop , but i dont know if it will sounds good into the power amp from behind 😀
Hi! I have a question: when you run the Ampero in the effect loop like a multi effect the global settings output is on line or on instrument mode? Thanks 😊
Should be line in.
Taylor, want to have the ultimate control over your sound? I just tried this today and I thought of you because I know you have both too. Run your guitar into Ampero, then out of Ampero into Mooer Ge200 and then out to your effects loop return. You already have your patch going on the Ampero, then turn on the eq on the Ge 200 and adjust to taste and thank me later :)
Daisy chaining effects units? 🤔🤔🤔 interesting proposition.
Do you not like the EQ in the Ampero?
Taylor Danley oh no, I love the ampero eq, but what I am describing makes the Mooer become a global eq...does that make sense?So you end up having another dimension of control.. I tried it and it really sounded good through my 6505+ 112 combo.
Actually, after I commented I tried just running an eq pedal after the ampero as a global eq and it worked just the same .. but using the Mooer, even the compressor on the Mooer after the Ampero makes it a global compressor that compresses everything together, delays and reverb.. which I haven’t tried yet but should work in theory
@@jasoncohran7265 nice! I'll have to try it out.
hey Taylor!
i had a small question, the ampero , does it support multiple amp ? (like the line 6 pod hd series )
thanks
Can i plug in the amp instead pc ?pls someone respond
Back in 2009, I bought Line6 PODxt. I was totally John Snow because... I knew nothing about the signal chain and all of these shit and most importantly I had none to inform me.
So, I went into a studio with my newly-trying-to-be-formed rock band, I put the PODxt in front of a Peavey (if I remember correctly) and... DISASTER! Which is the lightest way to describe the result.
It's good to explain the basics, there are always new/young guitarists who should know them.
Hi! I still have a PODxt unit at my rig, if you can still recall, how do you make optimal use of this pedal? Apparently, I cannot get a fuller sound especially on my OD patches, it sometimes sounded muddy and I'm so confused on what to do about it.
please if you can show the 4 cable method for the pod hd pro i would love to watch it, im attempting to add an fx loop to it with an expression pedal and im having a hard time getting it to work right
I run an Ampero through the Classic Gain (clean) channel of a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 100. It sounds really good running into the effects loop return and just using it as a power amp. Running through the Classic Gain channel you're getting the tone shift (mid scoop), and deep switch, along with the tone controls, so this signal path sounds best.
Think Akira Takasaki meets Wolf Hoffmann. Killer tone if I do say so myself.
Nice!
Taylor Danley If I just wanted to use the distortion and amp sims on a mooer ge 200 could i connect it to the front of the amp? And leave my eq settings on my amp clean and the knobs all on 5 o’clock? Or would it sound better through the fx loop for distortions and cab sims?
Better through fx loop
@@TaylorDanley Nice to see you reply to replies in a timely manner.
In front of the amp or through the fx loop is highly subjective, and is different from amp to amp, and what sounds better in one amp might not sound better in another amp.
Regards 🎸
Scott Dunn i have a solid state amp an orange 35 crush do you think fx loop is the better option then?
Hey Taylor. Awsome review. Really love your vids. I am really thinking of buying the ge 200 because of your reviews cause you are the only one doing them really in depth. What i wanted to ask is, i have a boss katana 50 which does not habe an fx loop. Would it sound really crappy if i just went through the input of my boss katana? Or maybe if i set everything clean on the modellig amp could i use all those amps and cabs of the ge 200?
P.s. I also have some other boss multi effect pedal boards and they actually work pretty well.
Greeting from Germany dude. Keep it metal🤘
Thanks! I appreciate that. 🙌
Most likely, if you are running in through the input of your katana it's going to sound weird. You're essentially running a preamp through an additional preamp. If you dont have an fx loop, and want to use it through a cabinet, I'd suggest getting a power amp or frfr speaker for the best results.
However if you just wanted to use the fx and bypass the amp and cab blocks, that would be ok. Your post effects like delay and reverb may be a little weird.
@@TaylorDanley Been looking for this video bcs I also don't know whats the best situation for this.
I started up hooking my multiFX output to aux in of my Katana to get the 'true' sound of my amp sim, but later found that hooking in to input and clean channel then put bass and treb EQ to 0 and mids to full sounds better..
Great video man! Subbed! I have a zoom multi effects processor and a boss katana 100 2×12 with the airstep controller. Would it be better to run the zoom through the effects loop? Seems to sound rough through the amp input.
Hi again Taylor, is there any way you can show us how to actually include the Ampero to an actual Pedalboard and what are the possibilities we could have from doing such. thanks and keep it up! 😊
I’m wanting to hook my kemper stage to the effects loop of my evh 50 watt
Would the master volume of the amp control the overall volume?
Hi silly question. I don’t use the ampero hotone but I use the mooer Ge 200. My question is it possible that you could pair that amp modeler into a 4x12 cabinet by just turning off the cab modeler and using speaker cables?
The GE200 won't power the 4x12, but yes, you can definitely bypass the cab block and use it with an actual cabinet!
@@TaylorDanley now how exactly do you bypass the cab block into an actual cabinet with the Mooer Ge 200.
Hello Taylor. 5:19 can ampero mini or stomp 2 do that?
I'm running similar but different gear, how would you recommend set up?
PRS s2cu22 / zoom G9.2tt / krank Rev1 / oversized krank nineteen80 4x12 cab
Do you have diagrams for how you are making connections?
Taylor what's a good solid state without all the pre program crap I don't use a computer or phone apps just amp and pedals. I have an old Marshall g100r and a Laney TF700 but now time to look for something newer. I have plenty of tube heads but I like a solid state for home use with a pedal mix like drives/Distortion etc. Thanks!
A good solid state amp? To be honest, I dont really know since I use a combination of modelers and power amps.. I did check out a orange cr120 that sounded really good a while back. It was also super affordable if I remember correctly!
@@TaylorDanley I saw that their around $400 I was maybe going to check on the Mooer preamp live? Thanks again Taylor!
So if I'm running it through the Effects Return on an amp with only one tube (Joyo Bantamp series), am I just bypassing the tube altogether and only getting the solid state power section?
Why not both? Would it even be possible to run both the effects loop and the front input?
You would need an effects loop in the ampero (which I dont think it has), and use the 4 cable method.
My analog pedals sucks in clean channel, it gets better in return (fx loop)
How do I run my amp into my daw with a effects loop?
what amps 20 40 watt etc have a effects loop I look all over eBay and can't find any.would help if someone done a post on that.cheers..
Hi! I didn't understand the connections on the effects loop example please, tell me if I'm wrong:
Guitar --> ampero --> Send of the effects loop but what about the return of the effects loop?
Ps: do you plug your guitar into the input of the amplifier or the input of the ampero?
No, you want to plug into the return of your effects loop. This will bypass your preamp.
My amp only has the option for the direct guitar input? So it’s always gonna sound bad then? Is there anything I can do it make it sound good?
It really limits your options to effects that would traditionally run in front of an amplifier. I would suggest picking up a power amp. You can find them relatively inexpensive, especially used.
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I might be able to do that. I have a lot to get through in the next couple weeks, but I'll keep this in mind.
Taylor Danley so if I set everything flat on my amp controls except the master volume would that make any difference to the sound? Would it just be the multi effect sound coming that comes through?
@@Unknownn_nx3 No. It might help, but the issue is that when you go through an effects unit into the input, you are running all those effects through the preamp stage of your amplifier, which is why it sounds weird. Many effects like delay and reverb are much better after your preamp
Taylor Danley what if I didn’t use any of the cabs or amps but just used the effects on the pedal? Would the effects still sound like what they’re intended to sound like?
What cable should or can be ran out of the effect processor to the front of the amp or the return? TS,TRS, standard guitar cable,etc.
Ts/standard guitar cable. Unlikely your amp has stereo inputs/outputs
@@TaylorDanley thx
Good for beginners. Reverb unusable also the distortions junk also
When you put into the front of an amp do you put the amp volume high and keep the processor volume low of do the opposite
Try amp volume high, bass treb: zero, mid: full
Hi, what guitar model do you have in the video?
I watch a LOT of your videos_ here is an idea for a video = I am building a guitar out of a Jackson Minion Jsx1 Bass Guitar body, using the ORG P/J pickups and Modding a 6 string guitar neck onto it with a Headless configuration for my 10yr old Nephew! What say you?
I have an Ampero and a Marshall studio vintage combo. Confused on best way to connect all. I had assumed I would connect guitar to amp, and then use send from amp to input of Ampero, and output of Ampero into the return of amp effects loop, is that all wrong? Should it be guitar plugged into Ampero input, and the output of Ampero connects to return of the amp's effects loop? I've never used effects before so it's new ground for me 😀
i know this is pretty late but how did you solve that issue ? im having an issue with that kind of set up as well , when i tried to connect my guitar directly into amp and ampero out into return and send , i dont hear any sound
@@gazettex8852 I just plug into Ampero and from there into amp, (and changed amps to Fender bassbreaker), I can't remember if I tried any other setup
How do you manage the hum? If I use the fx loop return with a multieffect pedal, the poweramp is at max volume (control the volume with the effect), so the base noise is at max, amplified. Noisy setup can be a pain, even with noise gate enalbed on the multieffect.
Noise gate
Pre amp? Foot switch? Guitar input? Effects loop? I heard effects loop will damage amp but I’m trying to plug a multi effects pedal like GT5 into a Hot Rod and left screeching my head.
how would you use your amp with no cab? Head - Ampero - Interface? can you explain how where to plug what please? :)
Most amp heads need to be connected to a cab (unless it has a "defeat" option). Only if that's the case, you could run your amp head's FX SEND through the Input of the Ampero and use the onboard CAB SIMS or IR.
Ampero is by itself a Sound interface. You don't need an extra one.
ampero doesnt allow for the 4 cable method, the ideal way is to connect the effect processor like you would connect a pedalboard:
(pedalboard) distortion/boost----> (amp) preamp---> (ped) other effects---> (amp) poweramp
if you dont have it you could do the way you show it
I’d kill for that amp! It’s impossible to find kranks in canada
0:03 Fax unit? ;)
So, how bad is it, that the Ampero has no FX send/return?
It's an excellent unit for using it by itself or a with a few pedals in front, but would not be my choice if i was using it with an actual amp. The Ampero II Stomp would suit that task better.
I actually use it for gigging on a pedalboard as the main unit, straight into the PA or mixer.
the Ampair-O thing is a bust - Please go Analog
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Thanks, I dont know if I'd ever have the patience for children other than my own though lol. Glad you like the channel!
Hi horror movie fan
Bull shit man ! Running to the front could easily be done. You did not even attempt to dial in any settings inside the processor. You could warp together the tones from your amplifiers preamp with many other possibilities within your effects processor. A lot of amps and processors have warping amps together already. It is just a matter of taking the actual time to do so. The effects loop is not always the best solution, regardless of what other you tube musicians may have you believe. Just saying. Still... Love your work bro ! 🧑🎤🎶🧔🎸🎶🕺