Waugh reveals how he dropped Shane Warne! | Michael Atherton meets Steve Waugh | Part 2
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Former Australia captain Steve Waugh sits down with Michael Atherton to discuss taking charge of the team in the late 90s, and the first challenge of his captaincy; his decision to drop Shane Warne.
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two things that anyone can learn from the career of Steve Waugh -
1. The dignity of labour.
2. The importance of taking pride in whatever you do.
Top leader.
Steve Waugh, remember the name. Haven't seen anybody more gritty, focused and a true leader. A gift from God, and for youngsters a bright star. Love from Pakistan :)
Terrifc fellow, Steve Waugh. Met him in Sydney, absolute gentleman. Quiet and unassuming, but had the steely hardness that can't be faked. Top notch.
Such a beautiful interview. So great to hear two intelligent cricketers speak with each other. Love it.
Andy Bichel was the most selfless player I have ever seen. Truly unsung hero. The greatest ever 12th Man. Wish he could have more chances.
Super cricketer and a top bloke.
The truth . I met him a few years ago you couldn’t find a nicer bloke
Tragic in some ways that he played in one of the greatest eras of Aussie cricket. The guy was brilliant but stood no chance against enforcer Lee, Pigeon and Warny with Gillespie and Kasper also chiming in.
@@kwl189 Atleast he got the historic WC spell to his name. Some consolation.
R M some. plus the trophies and medals he can’t be disappointed with. Just bad timing but then again Stuart McGill had his career ruined by Warne genius and so many others. Kind of mad when you think how many careers these legendary Aussie figures ended including players from their own country.
Best thing about Steve Waugh was he had respect of his team mates, no matter how they reacted to his decisions they knew he had the ability to play them out of trouble with a captain's innings or organise the field and strategy to put them in a winning position. One of the best leaders in the game's history.
No wonder Steve waugh was such a great captain. He knew how to get the best out of players. His thought process about the game is excellent.
Great interview. I think Waugh accepted his responsibilities and was an inspirational leader. Very tough and determined the template for Australian captains.
Steven Waugh in other words Legend. I think S Waugh inspires an awe that no one else does for me. Not just his cricketing ability or captaincy - also his off-field demeanor and worldly wise ways. TuggaHeroForever! I used to imagine I was Steve Waugh in my street cricket and during tough situations during exam preparation during school and college!
+1
Selfish player
SO tough.
@@pillwolak when u are leader u have to make decisions which can be seen as selfish and ruthless.....its the curse of a leader..the others can sit on their useless ass and make useless comments on the internet
@@SS-yr3ij Naww. In think Shane Warne and the majority of the players back then would agree he was all about himself rather than the team
Atherton is analytical, great listener and a gentleman. Sky Sports - keep him!
Amazingly REAL and honest! Thats what made Waugh an all time great. He owns up to his actions and didnt shy away grom faults.
Love the dude
Thoughtful, dignified and down-to-earth. Is it any wonder Shane Warne doesn't like him?
This is easily the most quality cricket channel on the platform.
It's "classy".
Rudraksh Sondh SuperSport from South Africa is also damn good. If you haven’t check out this documentary called Crossing The Line. Very well made.
@@abhishektoshniwal7631 Yes, I didn't know about it. Subscribed. Thanks a lot buddy
Well done Steve Waugh. Warne was like a big baby saying he was selfish etc but Australia won the test so Waugh won the argument
Wow the Andy Bichel story was incredible! What a team player! 💕
When his team was down Steve Waugh always stood up. He always lead by example. Best captain of the modern era.
Great captains are the ones who can take the big calls. Go against the flow and take the risks. Bask in glory if it works, but also stand up and take responsibility if it back fires.
Warne's record in the West Indies was very ordinary. Almost as ordinary as his record in India. Waugh clearly did the right thing dropping him.
I remember staying up to the early hours of the morning to watch that series. I was in year 12 at high school at the time and was going off to school completely wrecked after getting just a few hours of sleep each night....it was worth it, haha.
It was absolutely the right decision to drop Warne. He was completely underdone in coming back from shoulder surgery and was bowling rubbish. McGill was outperforming him by a long way at the time and as Waugh mentioned in this interview, it didn't make much sense to select two leg spinners against some quality Windies left-hand batsmen. To hear Warne speak of it, even to this day, he sounds like a spoiled brat who had his favourite toy taken away.
RESPECT.
TrentRidley that’s Shane all over. The guy let his talent and fame get to his head at certain points. Even now, the cheeky bugger and has a massive chip on his shoulder. Worked wonders for his career with the ball but outside of it? He can’t be impartial. Waugh did the right thing and it helped make Shane the bowler he became in some way.
@Son of Jacob Yeah, he has often spoken about the fact that he preferred having a bit of extra bounce in the pitch rather than necessarily a pitch with a lot of side spin. I think he's mentioned that the GABA (Brisbane) was one of if not his favourite pitch and it's obviously one of the faster, bouncier pitches in world cricket. He has a better record there than at grounds traditionally thought of as spinner friendly, even those in Australia such as the MCG (Melbourne) and SCG (Sydney).
Warnie couldn’t get any of the biased Indian umpires to give him LBW decisions, especially Venkat who was a cheat.
I still feel he is a bit underrated. You don’t find him in any playing XI because Ponting overshadowed him.. but if you look back carefully .. he turned Australia from good to great. Most of his successful innings came when it mattered. Ponting simply took over the already great team and made it even better... Not to undermine Ponting’s contribution ..Steve Waugh was the best Australian Captain.
True but he hid down the order at #6 and then later #5 while his statistically worse brother Mark Waugh had to bat at #4 not to mention throwing Langer in at #3 when he was clearly struggling.
Mark Taylor was a better captain
@@brownie43212 If you're going to use that rational, then Border was the same, he batted at #6. I don't see any merit in judging a captain on where in the order he bats. As a matter of fact, I think Border was our best captain.
@@brownie43212 Well, I don't remember him coming in at 3 or 4 too often. He may have done so in ODI's, but I don't think he batted higher than 5 in too many tests.
@@brownie43212 As you said he probably batted at #3 until world series cricket finished and the likes of Chappell, Walters etc came back into the team.
The greatest captain i ever saw in all my time and i am 81 .But even more important was he was the man to have in a bad situation for the team.He took them all on and rarely failed.
The sledging Waugh described about replays on the big screen and riling up a player about technique. That’s a real gentlemen sledge. Brilliant cricketing mind and he ran the team almost like a formidable CEO. Giving the people who work for you a fascinating and inspiring story about the organisation that they feel bloody special being a part of it and they work their back sides off to a be part of that story. Phenomenal thought process. The Ice man!!
I have more respect for Steve Waugh, both as a captain and as a person, than I have for any other captain in ANY sport. Just quality to the core.
Atherton is such a thoughtful interviewer. Can watch him interview an inanimate object just for his questioning prowess.
He has a lot of character which is great for us as viewers. Shame that it is dying out with modern cricketers.
No wonder where he's graduted his college from...
his articles published in indian newspaper s are amazing. such an incisive and analytical person. typical aristocratic brit.
can see it now, Atherton interviews a Mirror
@Divya Narayan i dont think degrees make one analytical. it is an approach that one is either born with or have some more direct life experience (than professional education) that make one be like that.
cheers for the infos tho, i didnt know these at all. 👍
Great teams need great leaders. Steve waugh albeit had superstars with him. To manage those kind of characters required braveness .
9:51 loved this bit.
Watched this last year and few times after that. The technique by Athers amazing. Alot of people can learn alot from this on how to have a discussion.
Until this day Warne holds a grudge against Waugh. Shows what sort of character Warne is
That's right mate. The team must always come first. Australia won that test. Shane Warne should get over it, and because he hasn't to this day, I don't agree with anyone, including Ian Chappell, who says that Shane Warne would've made a good captain. I have a lot of respect for Ian Chappell as a captain and a player, but IMO has a clouded judgment about Steve Waugh because of personal reasons. That's a shame because if you ask the large majority of players who played under Steve Waugh, they say that they would run through a brick wall for him, such is the respect they have for him.
@@johnohill463 he won with Rajasthan, don’t make assumptions.
@@arshupadhyaya Warne was dropped for one test for 2 reasons. Do you know which test and both reasons? I'll give you a hint. It wasn't personal.
@@johnohill463 I know he was out of form, Waugh was also dropped for his brother around 1990 because he forgot to bat, but that doesn’t mean warne would not have been a good captain, all evidence suggests he would have, plus I think more or less anyone could have captained that Aussie team.
@@arshupadhyaya that is such a bad take, it should be illegal
Warne calls S.Waugh a selfish cricketer but actually it's Warne who's selfish.
Too right. Most players at some point have form issues that get them dropped. Most of them deal with it like adults. Warnie, not so much. His overinflated ego can't get past it.
@@darrenjpeters Hello..exactly right especially you're point on form issues, we've seen that early this summer with England's Stuart Broad, he was dropped from the starting XI for the 1st test against the W Indies didn't like it came back & hit back hard
Warne blamed his mother when caught on that drug charge which lead to his one year suspension. Take it like a man.
@Mayank Chandra surely that’s is being selfless
At first I thought, nearly 20 mins, this will be a struggle!!! In the end I didn't want it to finish.
I’m a Steve Waugh fan, he’s a champion by me.
Steve enhanced what playing for Australia meant…
Wonderful interview with 2 intelligent cricketers.. Steve Waugh one of the true greats.. very few mentally tougher than Steve..
Yeah few like dhoni,kohli
Fantastic interview. Stephen Waugh is a class act.
hi langer lol
Damien Martin, most underrated batsman of modern Australian cricket.
Indeed... For a long time he had the best average too , 56 in ODIs
He retired on the same tour as the big 4 on an earlier match but he should be spoken about more during the “changing of the guard” 👍🏻
Yup
Even Michael Bevan
Damien Martyn*
If I had to pick any team, Steve Waugh will always be captain!!
Pick a volleyball team.
What a fighter captain he was. Love his innings he played in Jamaica in 1995. He was my favourite player in that era along with azharudin & wasim akram. Can't forget his innings he played in 1999 wc aswell. I also used to enjoy his cow corner shot aswell.
He turned up at Tasker Park in Campsie about 20 years ago, whilst a few of me and my mates were playing, obv we all stopped then asked for autographs etc, then carried on. He watched us a for a while, shouting a few coaching tips etc., then left. Top bloke.
that's awesome, I bet everyone started playing 10 times harder LOL
Steve Waugh changed the white ball game for Australia 🇦🇺 it’s not easy captaining a side full of talent, he got the most out of all those players and most importantly he passed it onto Ponting and Clarke to follow. Amazing legacy 💚💛
Before that Dean Jones changed ODI cricket.
Steve Waugh - grew up in Western Sydney with three brothers. That's why he was such a tough player.
9:15 Steve Waugh Sir's response to Atherton's baggy green tradition question. That's what shows how a leader should be. Ethics, hardwork and patience...
That's what earns you a baggy green. That kind of tradition to be followed, is amazing. Great captain according to me. Being an Indian, we have MSD in our arsenal, but Steve Waugh was great too. Brought the best out of players. Just like MSD, Ponting.
My top captains ever. No specific order but I kind of lean towards Steve Waugh and others on same spot.
Wonderful, classy interview. 2 blokes that personify class
Class? Atherton tampered with the ball numbnut
Steve Waugh was the only gutsy No 5 batsman in the history of cricket. Mentally he was never scared of any bowlers. As a captain he did very well with the team after Taylor retirement and because of him Ricky Pointing won 2003 and 2007 world cup!!
After Warne was dropped, Australia won the next test. The captain was just doing his job and made the best decision. His job was to choose the best 11 players for the conditions and he fulfilled his role perfectly...
Exactly. Shane Warne never forgave Steve Waugh for that. It's quite pathetic, actually. I can tell you that Shane Warne's teammates respected his ability...... but that's all.
Just stumbled on this. Great interview.
I hope there are many more parts to this interview
This is an interviewing masterclass!!
That camera timestamp shows this is 16 hours into taping. Amazing concentration from two of the best! Kudos. And hopefully in the future they can learn to get it on the first take ;-)
Steve Waugh was a leader and as a leader not all the decisions made are well received at the time. It was very candid nonetheless. Atho is sports version of David Frost. Well done to both.
True sign of a great leader. Not scared to drop star players if they don't perform, something England Cricket has never been able to comprehend.
That's why Captain's shouldn't be a selector in my view, I've always thought that.and this just reinforces that view. At the end of the day, Steve Waugh had a tough decision to make, and he didn't flinch doing it. Leaders have to do that, and he did. It's easy for us to argue the rights and wrongs of it, and debate the toss of it, but it wasn't us in his shoes having to do that
Yup could not agree more mate.
I don't care what anyone says. In my humble opinion, Steven Waugh became a legend because he had gone through the baptism of fire in the mid 80', with 19 players gone. Put in the Australian team at 20 after only 10 1st class games. I saw all of what happened when I was playing juniors in 1979. Went through that golden period and saw Chappell, Lillie & Marsh retire, and the rebel tour within a year later. With Allen Border made captain and new players, such as Steve Waugh come, we Australians knew that we were in a new and raw era. This is what made Steve Waugh the champion he turned out to be and it can never be understated. Kind regards. Johno
The greatest thing about Mark Taylor's leadership. Youd never hear him or see him bag an opposition player on field. A true gentleman of the game
A great cricketer and in my opinion, the best captain of Australia.
One of my favourite aussie batsman.Did the hard yakka and always gave 200% as a player and captain .
My favourite innings of Steve Waugh was that 120 runs not out against South Africa in 1999 world cup which was a must win match for Australia to reach in semifinals
Mohinder amaranth
Faroukh Engineer
Bishan Singh bedi
The names in the background.. Legends of Indian cricket.
Very brave decisions. Dropping Shane Warne was a big dicision and the right one aswel. If Shane played that test match and hurt his shoulder more, he could off been out off action for a long time and would off lost his confidence. Brave guy and love how Steve admits he had to make notes on paper and curfew not working. Admits his bad points. Yes Andy Bickel was deffo under rated.
I don't think it was brave in a purely cricketing sense. Warne was completely underdone in coming back from shoulder surgery and was bowling rubbish at the time. McGill was outperforming him by a long way.
@@TrentRidleyyes stil a brave decision to drop Warne. If u were captain, you wouldnt have the guts to drop Warne? The pressure and backlash would be to much for you to handle.
@@TrentRidley Even though I have never rated Steve Waugh but I still believe that was a brave decision. It could off caused rifts within the team, player power and groupism but he never thought about all that.
Steve Waugh was a true introvert
He was also known as motormouth
Great interview
I'VE GOT THE POWER!!! That opening jingle is ear shredding.
I personally believe Steve Waugh commands much respect from the cricket fraternity than Shane Warne.
Athers was a damn good opening bat. He is an equally good cricket jouurnalist too.
Easily one of the Best captains and bats men Australia has produced.
RIP WARNIE! The Best there is, the best there was and and the best there ever will be! Thanks for the memories mate, watching in 2022 after Warne passed away.
I'd back Steve Waugh on the choice of dropping Warne. Warney great bowler but history would prove Waugh made the right choice. Warne also mentioned of the curfew at the World cup but never acknowledge that Waugh himself realised it wasn't right. Holding a salty grudge is never nice.
Warne had his own reasons not to have excluded.But as a captain , The great Waugh had many reasons not to include him in the playing eleven.
Nice to the names of former Indian greats in the background Amarnath and Farooq Engineer. Love Mike Athertons style and graceful voice.
We could of taken on the Windies in the 70s and given them a run for their money! _Great respect by Steve for the great West Indies players of the 70s/80s !!!_
and respect from the windies for steve waugh.i remember when they had just won 16 tests on the trot ,viv came out and paid his respects by shaking his hand .
Watching this again 9 months later... still our gr8st captain. Full stop
Fantastic points of view from a great leader
Just love listening to Athers and Nass. Fantastic 👌👌
A great leader makes a decision and lives with it, right or wrong.
Whilst this interview, was excellent. Cant say Bumble as the interviewer wouldnt have been a instant classic 😉
The man was a true leader. Dropping Shane warne was a real test of his Integrity and leadership. If you want to see he effect on the team. Just listen to how Langer, Gilchrist or Ponting speak about him even now.
You are my favorite cricket player Australia team forever
In 90s both Australia and South Africa had great players . Australia were lucky to have Waugh as captain.
And the mental strength.... something South Africa lacked in the 90s
@@peteanderson4395 Post 1999 WC and the Fixing Scandal left a deep impact on SA cricket. Winning WC creates positive and daredevil attitude for the teams like the 1975 for Windes , 83 for India , 96 for SL and almost any WC event winners you can pick
@@aniket385 I'm not dissing them...they were the number 1 test team for a while and were the first team to win a test series in Australia since the last great west indies team... always enjoyed watching SA in the mid to late 90s and get what you say about winning the world cup etc
@@peteanderson4395 Yes.... they were for most of of time the best team of 90s. 1992 was unlucky WC but they won 1998 ICC knockouts /champions League.
Steve Waugh is David Gilmour of cricket!
No no no no no....he is the kanye west
On the face of it, dropping one of the all-time great bowlers when you need to win a Test to draw a series seems like a crazy thing to do but consider this:
Warne didn't get a wicket in the first Test of that series, took 1/94 in the second Test and 1/139 in the third Test and this was after ending the tour of India with figures of 10/540!
Got a bit emotional when he said the players had to give 30 seconds on what Gallipoli meant to them. John Buchannon wore his Grandfathers medals, i bet to this day his chest will never have been as puffed out as it was then. You cannot beat life experience, especially if you can convey it in a way that it gets at your heart. Love these interviews.
Americans call it stolen valor when someone put on their dead relatives 🏅.
@@f1aziz Bore off Faisal and troll elsewhere.
@@jel5034 Sorry, it was just an FYI, not trolling tbh.
@@f1aziz Yet they love donning camo as civilians…🤪
@@ianeagle40nil they are militaristic society, that's what heavily militarized societies do.
Infront of Brian Lara, warne is no match. Brian lara can handle him easily. Greatest player. Lara was in absolute magic form that waugh has to absolutely take this decision
Lara couldn't face Lohmann . Absolute duck
Steve Waugh was tough as nails! Mentally rock solid!
A true Great of Australian cricket,right up there,
Bradman,Benaud,Chappell, Border,Taylor
Great player, i remember the fast test hundred he smashed as a protest to the selectprs who left him out of the worldcup side
Athers gave Steve a bit of an easy ride at the end there. There was a lot more unpleasantness in talking loudly to teammates about opponents who were intended to hear it all. That said, SRW once said that England weren’t Australia’s main rivals and barely merited a 5 Test series... here in December 2021 he must be lamenting that yet another whitewash beckons. So he’s right!
One of Australia's best ever captains. (footnote; Warney, ssshhhhhhhhhh.)
Quality player
What a hero. He'll be immortalized in the annals of cricket for discarding the greatest cricketer to ever play the game. Waugh is in no position to put the mocker on sledging. He was one of the first to adopt it and implemented and promoted it to the bitter end.
Discarding the greatest cricketer ever? Dropping Warne for 1 test is not discarding him, and it was the right call.
@@troystaunton254 Well, if you question that mate, I just ask you for your selection so I can replace SKW as the GOAT. Always open to better advice if I can be convinced.
Got to say in Waugh's case though, I believe his selfishness seemed apparent to me in his every demeanor. They called the wrong bloke, captain Grumpy. The title properly belongs to Waugh. A half decent tiddly winks player could have captained the side Waugh was gifted. He certainly could hold his own in the side as a cricketer but far too many people applaud his standing as a captain, which I feel, was motivated by self agrandissement. Warne himself was of the same opinion.
God bless you and keep you safe.
West Indies of the 1980's surely? The West Indies of the 1970's were a pretty average side for the most part-especially when WSC hit. The bowling attack we know wasn't really full formed until the early 1980's-some of those great players didn't debut until the late 1970's-Haynes, Marshall, Garner.
You realize WI World Cup wins were in the 70s right? Might not have been as strong as the 80s but far from average.
@@flch95 From 1975 on they were more of a force-but hit hard by WSC in 1978/1979, the first half of the decade they weren't that great-an ageing Sobers with injuries, decent but unspectacular bowling attack & ODI Cricket isn't the best gage as nobody really took it that seriously until after the 1983 WC.
Steve Waugh talks about winding people up, The man he's speaking to Athers ignored it put up a brick wall, Mark Ramprakash on the other hand
Great captain.....tough..Chappell would never had the guts to drop an established player..his mates
What a great captain. We were lucky to have border, Waugh and Taylor. Taylor was the best for mine, but the other two were great leaders. Poor Ponting; a good captain who’ll be haunted by the decision to put England in without a third man in 2005.
I can't think of Ponting as a good Captain. He inherited a superstar team and THEY guided him, not the other way around. By the time all the greats in the team retired they'd polished Ponting enough that he could be a competent Captain, but I don't think he was ever particularly good.
I wish Tugga would go into politics. Would make a great leader of the state or country. . Brilliant Blue Bagger ! 😎👍🏻
I wanted him to ask him about the Curtly Ambrose incident.
It's difficult to determine what makes a great captain. You can't just count the win/loss column because a really great side like Australia had through the 90's and 2000's could win a match from virtually anywhere. You could almost see a push to steamroll the other team, and I don't think it had much to do with the captaincy. However, when a captain can make an ordinary team look good, I think that is the mark of a good captain. I felt sometimes Ricky Ponting was left a little wanting with ideas and ways to motivate his team, whereas I don't recall Steve Waugh ever having that problem. But, I could be mistaken and looking at that time through rose-coloured glasses. But I will say, as good as Steve Waugh was in the field, he was no match for Ricky Ponting.
My respect for this man is massive.
Says a lot about Ian Chappell. Whilst many who played in his side thought he was a great captain, he isn't very much liked. Then again Chappelli was pretty arrogant and wouldn't give a crap..lol
Outstanding captain, In modern times I only rate Imran Khan higher.
Athers interviews beautifully
British and Aussies are very different people culturally
SRW. Legend.
Brian Lara was responsible for him getting dropped
Warne 2 wickets @ 134 for Warne after 3 Tests, for him to be upset about Steve's decision show he himself is the selfish one, not Steve.
what a person