All these wonderful old series can be decades old. Many fans appreciate their repeats-they hit all the boxes for great crime stories/solving! With so many crime channels out there-go elsewhere! We fans of “ 48” and New Detectives love them. 👍🥰
But these aren’t old cases. I wish they would actually show old cases. This show has been in air forever almost now and yet they replay shows over the last five to ten years the same ones actually. Never a real old case.
I am an American male, 67, and I did recreational drugs in my late teens and twenties like many. With the presence of fentanyl nowadays one has to be extremely reckless to the level of playing Russian roulette to do any drugs and includes what appears to be from the pharmacy. Those days are over, that ship has sailed if you have any desire to continue to live. Furthermore, unless you see the bartender pour your drink and it has been in your hand the entire time do not drink it ladies.
Ditto im 44 female and don't know how I survived some of the dangerous stupid things I did but if I was in my twenties nowadays and acted like I did back then I definitely would end up in somebody's basement or a ditch its way hella scarier than ever out there. Makes it hard as a mom of little ones.
How can you hear someone moaning and screaming and pain and not call the police? I’ve heard dozens of such stories, you’re almost certainly on your own in an emergency, do not expect anyone to call the police for you.
Sadly I’ve been there being assaulted screaming for help and the person walking by? LAUGHEDDDDD!! Terrifying. I could never. If I was that neighbor I’d have so much guilt in my heart.
I call every time I hear something. I live in the middle of the city. I hear the base, the train and the zoo. I have extremely sensitive ears. If im on my porch I can hear the neighbor across the street talking on their phone and their caller. I near gun shots often. I'm surprised the 911 operators don't recognize my voice 😂. I tell them how close and which direction. I called one night and told them 2 guns went off about 3 to 4 house's down from mine. One was a shotgun and the other a hand gun. Turns out a man was killed for having an affair with a bikers wife.
@@babble2leeza wow! Stay safe! I call whenever I hear anything as well. Gunshots within our city limits are rare and the few times they did happen I call and the police say “you’re the 3rd caller (or whatever the number is) they are on their way”.
@@jkm1611I like you standing up for women. However, the statement is just good practice. Not their fault but, like so many in their 20s, did foolish things. Me too.
Thank you 48hrs for airing old solved or unsolved cases to remind us that there will always be a monster living amongst us and we have to be careful with our actions, decision before its too late❤
Right? There's just something about his face in that picture that screams so many words like "creepy", "disgusting", "slimy", "narcissist", and "dangerous" that just leave you with an awful feeling in the pit of your stomach and the feeling that you need to take a shower because you feel dirty just because you 'looked' at his face in a picture. Can you imagine how awful it would feel to be in the same room as him?
You don't know what is out there an who is out there... don't put yourself in these situations! YOU are in control of putting yourself in danger...so don't do it
These are real life lessons! Can never be too careful of predators and murderers out there...Parents please talk to your children on how to avoid places and situations where these monsters hang out!
If you go out to party don’t go home with strangers. Don’t let your friends go home with strangers. Don’t except drink or drugs from these strangers. And if you go out turn on your location and stash your phone in their apartment with a live video going.
This is an excellent point. WHY is a married girl and her single friend going anywhere with a guy and 3 of his friends (none of whom are her husband) at 4 am? What were they gonna do? Did they have an open marriage, that this is seemingly not shocking behavior to her husband? He doesn't seem shocked that she left a party with a drug dealer, does he? Just really f'n strange to me.
@@SlimSlashieI mean they met at burning man didn’t they?? Or at least got married there?? And her friend was single? I mean maybe she just didn’t want her friend going alone? Sadly her being a “good friend” might have cost her, her life. 😢
@@carlaamanda86 You said EXACTLY what I was thinking. People that go to burning man are a little strange. The whole "sex as currency" thing, I just can't... Not with a straight face at least. (Yes, I know it's consenting adults, but it's still a strange thing to do.) I never thought about the friend going so that model girl wouldn't be alone... That's an interesting idea, because you're right, she would be doing the "good friend" thing to do, and it got her killed. Two excellent points. Thank you. I still wonder why a married girl would be going home with 3 guys. I mean, if that's her marriage, and it works for them, hey, who am I to judge. It sure wouldn't be MY marriage though.
Never thought I"d see a guy doing the "blue steel combined with duck lips" in a face pic pose like David Pearce. Zoolander would be proud!! Bubba in prison gonna love that face🤭
We all deserve a partner like Christys. He seemed so in love and caring, and was so determined to find out what happened, and led them right to the perp. What an awesome young man.
@@divinecommerce3912 I don't think he took advantage of her, maybe the other way around more likely. He's the typical beta type to marry a party girl. A more traditional man wouldn't have tolerated her lifestyle.
@@divinecommerce3912 He didn't take advantage, these type girls party hard from the age of 14, typically. He couldn't have changed anything about how she wanted to live her life. A more traditional masculine man wouldn't have married this party girl in the first place.
Absolutely horrible. I don't understand why young women use drugs & leave bars with men that they don't know. It's so dangerous! I'm not victim blaming! Just stating that young women need to use their heads. I've never done cocaine, but I'm sure it's not worth losing your life for 💔
I don't think it is victim blaming. People need to realize that sometimes there are consequences to their actions. They willingly put themselves in an unsafe situation by doing drugs and leaving with strangers. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Please ladies of all ages ...DO NOT put yourself in dangerous situations!!! I watch these shows because i like seeing how the crimes are solved. But also to figure out what the victims could have done to avoid dying. I sat on a beach alone in the late afternoon and was approached by a serial killer. Thank God their were a group of elderly gentleman near by that kept staring at Christopher Wilder. I walked past them when i arrived at the beach and they knew I didn't come with him. He kept looking back at them as a stood over me on an empty beach. Those elderly gentleman saved my life that day. The seral killer had killed a girl early in his career on a beach in Australia. I should have never walked to the beach alone and sit in the sand alone on an empty beach. We lived only 4 blocks from the ocean but it was summer late afternoon and the beach was empty. The elderly gentleman were sitting in a picnic area playing backgammon or cards right above the sand close to a small parking area. My point is there are predators out there 24 7 looking for victims. Dont put yourself in a vulnerable position to be their next victim. These type of people are everywhere out hunting. These girls broke every rule of staying safe. I just lucked out that day thanks to those elderly gentleman being there.
Omg i would be so paranoid for the rest of my life i watch these videos to be aware of dangers i sometimes cant even take a Walk outside without being hiper alert . Im glad you are still here !!!
I agree in most ways. But I know this didn’t save them but they stayed together. I’m sure the married one went so the other wasn’t alone with 3 guys. Everyone always says “safety in numbers” and while 2 isn’t good odds. At least they didn’t leave eachother. I can’t imagine being that neighbor. I’d have so much guilt in my heart for not calling 911 for the moaning and groaning in pain. 😢
At the end of the day it comes down to evidence. It was his home, his car, him in the photos. The others actions were behind closed doors. Zero evidence they were involved aside from loading them in the vehicle & the video must have been unclear/unable to identify them or they’d have been charged. They were roommates that lived there, legally, with no concrete evidence of wrongdoing.
@@bilingualway not at all. But taking drugs with strangers, accepting more drugs from them, then going to their house and doing even more drugs is just inexcusably stupid behavior. Even if these guys weren’t predatory rapists, these girls could have died just from being dumb enough to risk od-ing in a stranger’s house and getting dumped exactly how they were.
@@DesertBirdiethese comments are all wild. These women are dead because evil men killed them. There may or may not have been choices that could’ve been made differently, but had these men not existed these two women would still be here.
@@DesertBirdieThis isn't victim blaming. I'm willing to bet that if they could, they'd tell people how much they regret making the decisions they made that night that made them more vulnerable.
She was a model, she probably thought she was going to make some Hollywood connections... That's why all 3 guys should be behind bars they all knew exactly what they were doing they all knew they were nobodies but still kept up with the lie to get the girls into the apartment
I don't think she was a typical wife... very young, still into partying, with a husband who was sure that at the end of the day, she was his. My husband would also trust me, I'm just out of the partying phase of life and frankly not gullible enough.
My heart goes out to Jim. Not only was he a victim too, but he lost his beloved in such a horrific way. I went through something similar at 17 except I was attacked while alone. I couldn't imagine if my bf had been with me and been killed. 😭
I understood one thing watching crime shows.Don't trust anyone, whether it's someone you are married to for 12 years or someone you just met 12 mins ago.But still, if you have to pick one, go with 'stranger danger'.
Parents please teach your daughters from young to stay away from drugs and not to trust strangers. One can enjoy your life and youthfulness without doing all these irrisponsible,crazy things.
It's all at your own risk... People choose. Some sensibly, some not so sensibly... "Don't talk to strangers" isn't something just for kids. It applies to all age groups....RIP!
@@salebrosity22 but we don't have open borders! Please, don't try to be political when someone has been murdered! What part of there's plenty of crazy murders from here in the USA!
Everyone in here leaving nasty comments must not have children. Yeah these young ladies made lots of mistakes, but most young adults do. Doesn’t excuse predators from taking advantage. The least they could have done is get then medical attention asap not wait until it was too late.
Many people drive around without plates in LA. Most high end vehicles don’t even have the holes to insert them. People would rather not drill holes into the vehicle & risk a ticket to uphold resale value & aesthetics.
Married girl doing coke at a club given to her by a complete stranger and then decides to get into a vehicle with the same atranger and two other strangers. No way anything bad could possibly happen.
Sad story, why would these two beautiful smart women go with men they didn’t know. One is married and she leaves with guys to either another party or to their home. Girls code is you NEVER GO WITH GUYS YOU MEET AT A CLUB OR PARTY. YOU DRIVE YOURSELF AND DONT GO TO A PRIVATE PARTY or a home party. WOMEN USE common senses and always be cautious. Don’t allow anyone to love bomb you and flatter you thats what a predator does to try and earn your trust.
Yeah, look what Wade Wilson did after leaving one club with 2 women he had just met in a club in Ft. Myers, Fl. In less than 8 hours he killed one of them and less than 8 hours after that he kidnapped and killed another poor woman. Be safe y'all, bad things happen to guys too, but females usually can't defend as well as a guy. God bless you all. 🙏
This is so infuriating!!! These beautiful women were somehow detained at the house when they wanted to leave and likely r worded by these three a holes. I wish the neighbor had called the cops. There may have been small chance to save them. I do not want anyone to victim blame these two women did want many young people do and should be able to go out and have fun at a night club.
Poor Jane.. I don’t believe she killed her husband.. not at all.. it’s very tragic when innocent ppl get locked up, it’s such a miscarriage of justice.. how do you give back someone 20yrs of their life? You just cannot.. our time here on earth is so valuable and precious.. it’s just sad and worse that Bob never got true justice either.. Rip ♥️🙏🥲
Hilda and Christy were ADORABLE. But there needs to be accountability that they willingly and knowingly took party drugs with strange men. There is zero proof these men knew the coke was laced with fentanyl, AND THEY WOULD NEVER DROP THEM AT A HOSPITAL WHERE EVIDENCE CAN BE GATHERED IF THEY MEANT THEM HARM!!! The men were twice their size, so they could do the same lines without OD'ing. 2 facts- yes these men are shady, and yes the girls are responsible for what happened. RIP beautiful girls...
Nothing new about that, I was a young adult in the 70's, the height of the sex, drugs & rock-n-roll era. MOST kids don't end up dead or murdered from their youthful escapades.
@@Mklepiros I'm 58 years old, anyone under 30 are still kids to me. Try being kind, it takes less energy to be kind than it does being bitter & mean, try being kind, you might love it!
54:20 this is so sad & terrible, I can't imagine the parents grief to lose their baby girl but to hold the other teenage victim responsible when he came close to losing his life as well is just wrong & cruel. Adding shame on top of the guilt the kid already feels for being a survivor when she died! Be mad at the killer not the victim, he is the one who took your child
In regards to the last case, “The troubled…”, I wanted to know if they tested the blood on the ceiling and walls. She said the dog was bleeding and dogs shake themselves and their heads frequently, which would explain the blood, which could be refuted if it was tested to see if it’s human. So far I’m only part of the way through though so maybe they addressed that issue.
Christie was described as "there was nothing she wasn't afraid to do." That unfortunate trait was the thing to have led to her death. Too bad she didn't have fear. She sounds like she was manic. Poor lady.
Don't do drugs, don't go with strange men and party recklessly. They did not deserve what happened to them of course. However live well and with more virtue, personal responsibility and they be alive. Tragic. Don't do drugs or be around people who do.
the "don't do drugs and stay away from addicts" thing is really reductive. people don't stop loving their family and friends when they become addicts, nor do disadvantaged young people always have the experience and foresight to avoid addiction when presented the opportunity to escape life for awhile. without a social safety net to catch people falling into addiction, and a prison system hungry for labor, it's not a surprise to me that there's so much of my class of '22 dead and buried or in prison already
What was a married woman doing blowing Coke with a complete stranger in his apartment at 5 o’clock in the morning? That’s way beyond having a little fun at the bar.
Those of us that live in this area- This is not 1952 Hollywood is a rundown, beat up tired town, it's not attractive, it's depressing, and trust me, there's no glitz and glamor anywhere in LA county Orange county is the beautiful part of Southern California, still, you would not call it glitz and glamor These 48 hours riders based in Ohio or some tiny nowhere town? Bc they don't know what they're talking about
THIS is Incredible!!!!!! Absolutely haunting when u think about Lori and Chad and the horrible things they did! Kuddos to Ryan for telling his story and being vulnerable. He admited to the hold jt had on him and explained how he went down a dangerous rabbithole!
I feel bad for jane in the last case...u can tell she is an innocent woman...i do not believe she killed her husband...just digusting and the kids should be disgusted with themselves. I think she should take a lie detector and prove her innocence
Growing up with loving families woman can be trusting and not see the evil lurking....never never go off with a stranger....don't use dating sites, don't get in cars...😢
@@kanchankanade4834 It’s not victim blaming. It’s serving as a warning to others so they won’t suffer the same fate. Don’t drive 90 miles an hour on a curved road at night. The odds of something bad happening are very high
@@kanchankanade4834not their fault, but they definitely could also take necessary precaution---without this there will be more victims! people need to realize they need to take precautions
If she was married...what the heck was she doing going to drug fueled parties alone? She had everything from the age of 15 as a top model...why be that reckless?
My GenZ granddaughters tell me we can’t think like that anymore (let alone say it) that young women should be able to do as they like without fear from predatory males. I despair, psychopaths sadly don’t recognise that rule any more than a bus can stop if you walk in front of it, we don’t have the right to cross the road just when we feel like it, we do it safely. There’s a responsibility to keep ourselves safe, knowing there are dangers out there.
@@sarahwall3528 hi, im gen z. i have a feeling your granddaughters are more trying to direct your attention towards the root of the issue. look through these comments; i still haven't seen anyone remarking on the obvious callousness of the men involved, but 80% of this comment section boils down to "sad they died, but don't make bad decisions and you won't die early". socially speaking, women have sidled the burden of mens' violence for much of human history. keep your skirt below the knee, cover your drink, ask your uber driver what your name is. it's not that those are all great things to do to prevent becoming a victim, but if it's all you have to add to situations like this video, you're shifting responsibility from where it belongs. the issue isn't women being thoughtless from time to time, it's men being violent, entitled, and temperamental in ways that women usually unlearn before they're 6 years old
@@sal-my1idMen biologically have more of a propensity to criminality and sexual crimes but that doesn’t make them all bad. Your comments seem incredibly sexist, imagine a man making similar comments about the female population. I can see gen z are widening the gender gap again. Everything goes in circles.
I feel sorry for the fiancee... Not only did he lose the girl that took his heart but he also found out that she had no problem using drugs when he was out of town and going home with strange men. This has nothing to do with the case so don't say I'm victim blaming it even if they left alive just saying I felt sorry for the husband to find all that out at once and then for it to be made public.
This is so heartbreaking. What a monster that guy is. All 3 of them are monsters!!! These poor girls. So so sad. RIP beautifuls!! Sending prayers to the families.
They are all monsters and cheaters. What the hell was a married woman hanging out with another man?? Fun?! Go have fun with your husband at home not some creep you just met!! SO STUPID!!!!
Let this be a teaching moment for all: don’t behave recklessly with your life; Don’t waste your life at loud parties with questionable strangers in the name of “pursuing fun”. If you’re going to be a party girl, don’t be surprised when a bad person takes advantage of your reckless behavior. It’s tragic yes, but this lifestyle lends itself to danger.
I’m not victim blaming but why would you leave a perfectly safe public party with three strange men to go to home that you don’t know. Especially if you are married. Even just looking at these three men I can see predator written all over their faces.
She was probably trying to be a wing woman to her dear friend so she wouldn’t be alone. Who knows what the creep told her? Maybe they had mutual acquaintances so she thought it would be safe. Don’t victim blame.
On my honeymoon I wanted to go to the beach , watch the sunset and get frisky. My husband laughed and said no. I thought, what an asshole, well I knew when I married him he wasn't romantic. Of course I had to ask why not. He said you don't want to be on the beach at night, it's not like the movies. This was the 80's. Im glad he was good about keeping me safe. I sure miss him. He was terrible at shooting a gun😂 which I'm spot on. He was better at being responsible. Every time I came up with a crazy idea he reeled me in. Now that I'm a widow......skies the limit. I wish, im terminal and it really sucks.
The duck face in his pics is a crime in itself
Hahaha, facts! 😂
Zoolander...duck face magnum
Looks gay really 😂
Well is gonna be a girlfriend in jail with his lips 😂
All these wonderful old series can be decades old. Many fans appreciate their repeats-they hit all the boxes for great crime stories/solving! With so many crime channels out there-go elsewhere! We fans of “ 48” and New Detectives love them. 👍🥰
That would be fine if they actually were decades old. These are the same cases uploaded every other month.
But these aren’t old cases. I wish they would actually show old cases. This show has been in air forever almost now and yet they replay shows over the last five to ten years the same ones actually. Never a real old case.
True Lives & Real Crime are also pretty good channels too.
Favorite channels: 48 HOURS, True Crime News and Crime Beat TV
Coffeehouse Crime is a good individual channel
insane anyone would call these wonderful......
I am an American male, 67, and I did recreational drugs in my late teens and twenties like many. With the presence of fentanyl nowadays one has to be extremely reckless to the level of playing Russian roulette to do any drugs and includes what appears to be from the pharmacy.
Those days are over, that ship has sailed if you have any desire to continue to live.
Furthermore, unless you see the bartender pour your drink and it has been in your hand the entire time do not drink it ladies.
Ditto im 44 female and don't know how I survived some of the dangerous stupid things I did but if I was in my twenties nowadays and acted like I did back then I definitely would end up in somebody's basement or a ditch its way hella scarier than ever out there. Makes it hard as a mom of little ones.
40 yr old Momma here…all I want to say is Same!!
These days the world is ruthless! Especially the drug scene! So scary!
I'm 33 I just bought an ounce of fent I'm bout to smoke some and go to sleep
😂@@Clipz425
@@Clipz425ii get it. There's no h in the h anymore you Hope its fentanyl. Be safe
How can you hear someone moaning and screaming and pain and not call the police? I’ve heard dozens of such stories, you’re almost certainly on your own in an emergency, do not expect anyone to call the police for you.
I don't get that either. Shame on the neighbors. Chances are they would have been saved if one of them had called.
In a city of millions, someone moaning is a very low priority call. Even if they had called it in nobody would have shown up.
Sadly I’ve been there being assaulted screaming for help and the person walking by? LAUGHEDDDDD!! Terrifying. I could never. If I was that neighbor I’d have so much guilt in my heart.
I call every time I hear something. I live in the middle of the city. I hear the base, the train and the zoo. I have extremely sensitive ears. If im on my porch I can hear the neighbor across the street talking on their phone and their caller. I near gun shots often. I'm surprised the 911 operators don't recognize my voice 😂. I tell them how close and which direction. I called one night and told them 2 guns went off about 3 to 4 house's down from mine. One was a shotgun and the other a hand gun. Turns out a man was killed for having an affair with a bikers wife.
@@babble2leeza wow! Stay safe! I call whenever I hear anything as well. Gunshots within our city limits are rare and the few times they did happen I call and the police say “you’re the 3rd caller (or whatever the number is) they are on their way”.
Never accept drugs/drink from a person you met 10 minutes ago.
Dont victim blame
@@jkm1611that's crazy..terryhughes is smart unlike a lot of us😢..there are a lot of predators out there
@@jkm1611I like you standing up for women. However, the statement is just good practice. Not their fault but, like so many in their 20s, did foolish things. Me too.
@@jkm1611it’s just common safety sense
@@jkm1611 it is called discernment and most women lack it.
Thank you 48hrs for airing old solved or unsolved cases to remind us that there will always be a monster living amongst us and we have to be careful with our actions, decision before its too late❤
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Your right
This channel feeds my procrastination
Me too.loooo
😂😂😂
@@theresarasche3173same here! I’m supposed to be doing my laundry!
That's exactly why I'm here
Yep,I should be doing something else🤣
David Pearce needs arresting purely for his pout.
Omg right. It's terrible.
Yes, he doesn't even look like a 13 year old girl.
Zoolanders new look "blue ice" vibes
The girls liked it.
Seriously. The fish lips in every single picture
This guys face makes me want him to be found guilty before I even know what the case is about.
I’ve never hated someone’s face so badly before. 😭
Right? There's just something about his face in that picture that screams so many words like "creepy", "disgusting", "slimy", "narcissist", and "dangerous" that just leave you with an awful feeling in the pit of your stomach and the feeling that you need to take a shower because you feel dirty just because you 'looked' at his face in a picture. Can you imagine how awful it would feel to be in the same room as him?
Kids...just say NO to drugs please...🙁🙁🙁
And alcohol 🍷 😮
You don't know what is out there an who is out there... don't put yourself in these situations! YOU are in control of putting yourself in danger...so don't do it
Exactly
Prayers for these poor families. 🙏🙏🙏
48 hours is a masterpiece in reporting crime in a serious and thought provoking manner........
I agree.. love the reporters
These are real life lessons! Can never be too careful of predators and murderers out there...Parents please talk to your children on how to avoid places and situations where these monsters hang out!
Omg I couldn’t imagine the pain the family is going through.. God bless these 2 beautiful women… RIP
If you go out to party don’t go home with strangers. Don’t let your friends go home with strangers. Don’t except drink or drugs from these strangers. And if you go out turn on your location and stash your phone in their apartment with a live video going.
This happens so often today you'd think women would know better.
@@debidriscoll8108don’t victim blame.
This is an excellent point. WHY is a married girl and her single friend going anywhere with a guy and 3 of his friends (none of whom are her husband) at 4 am? What were they gonna do? Did they have an open marriage, that this is seemingly not shocking behavior to her husband? He doesn't seem shocked that she left a party with a drug dealer, does he? Just really f'n strange to me.
@@SlimSlashieI mean they met at burning man didn’t they?? Or at least got married there??
And her friend was single? I mean maybe she just didn’t want her friend going alone? Sadly her being a “good friend” might have cost her, her life. 😢
@@carlaamanda86 You said EXACTLY what I was thinking. People that go to burning man are a little strange. The whole "sex as currency" thing, I just can't... Not with a straight face at least. (Yes, I know it's consenting adults, but it's still a strange thing to do.)
I never thought about the friend going so that model girl wouldn't be alone... That's an interesting idea, because you're right, she would be doing the "good friend" thing to do, and it got her killed.
Two excellent points. Thank you. I still wonder why a married girl would be going home with 3 guys. I mean, if that's her marriage, and it works for them, hey, who am I to judge. It sure wouldn't be MY marriage though.
Never thought I"d see a guy doing the "blue steel combined with duck lips" in a face pic pose like David Pearce. Zoolander would be proud!! Bubba in prison gonna love that face🤭
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I thought the same…YUCK!!!
Omg! Zoolander was exactly what I was thinking! Yes, I’m sure he is popular in prison!
Welcome to nasty LA. This place has david's all over. Its gross here.
Hope he'll be doing a lot of pouting in prison..
We all deserve a partner like Christys. He seemed so in love and caring, and was so determined to find out what happened, and led them right to the perp. What an awesome young man.
He isn't that young and their marriage wouldn't have lasted had she lived. She was a party girl, that is not a diss but a fact.
He took advantage of a girl 17 years younger then failed to protect her... How is that awesome SMH???
@@divinecommerce3912 I don't think he took advantage of her, maybe the other way around more likely. He's the typical beta type to marry a party girl. A more traditional man wouldn't have tolerated her lifestyle.
@@divinecommerce3912 He didn't take advantage, these type girls party hard from the age of 14, typically. He couldn't have changed anything about how she wanted to live her life. A more traditional masculine man wouldn't have married this party girl in the first place.
Absolutely horrible. I don't understand why young women use drugs & leave bars with men that they don't know. It's so dangerous! I'm not victim blaming! Just stating that young women need to use their heads. I've never done cocaine, but I'm sure it's not worth losing your life for 💔
I don't think it is victim blaming. People need to realize that sometimes there are consequences to their actions. They willingly put themselves in an unsafe situation by doing drugs and leaving with strangers. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
It's survivor bias at play... Women know there are monsters among us, but we think we can avoid them because we haven't been victimized (yet)
Husbands out of town, she immediately goes and does drugs with strangers.
I'm with you... telling the reality doesn't mean we are blaming the victims
They made bad choices with,3 Losers
Please ladies of all ages ...DO NOT put yourself in dangerous situations!!! I watch these shows because i like seeing how the crimes are solved. But also to figure out what the victims could have done to avoid dying. I sat on a beach alone in the late afternoon and was approached by a serial killer. Thank God their were a group of elderly gentleman near by that kept staring at Christopher Wilder. I walked past them when i arrived at the beach and they knew I didn't come with him. He kept looking back at them as a stood over me on an empty beach. Those elderly gentleman saved my life that day. The seral killer had killed a girl early in his career on a beach in Australia. I should have never walked to the beach alone and sit in the sand alone on an empty beach. We lived only 4 blocks from the ocean but it was summer late afternoon and the beach was empty. The elderly gentleman were sitting in a picnic area playing backgammon or cards right above the sand close to a small parking area. My point is there are predators out there 24 7 looking for victims. Dont put yourself in a vulnerable position to be their next victim. These type of people are everywhere out hunting. These girls broke every rule of staying safe. I just lucked out that day thanks to those elderly gentleman being there.
Im sorry to hear that. That was good that your are safe.
Omg i would be so paranoid for the rest of my life i watch these videos to be aware of dangers i sometimes cant even take a
Walk outside without being hiper alert . Im glad you are still here !!!
I agree in most ways. But I know this didn’t save them but they stayed together. I’m sure the married one went so the other wasn’t alone with 3 guys. Everyone always says “safety in numbers” and while 2 isn’t good odds. At least they didn’t leave eachother. I can’t imagine being that neighbor. I’d have so much guilt in my heart for not calling 911 for the moaning and groaning in pain. 😢
Why only David Pierce? His two friends were also there. Did they only watch? They should also be charged!
At the end of the day it comes down to evidence. It was his home, his car, him in the photos. The others actions were behind closed doors. Zero evidence they were involved aside from loading them in the vehicle & the video must have been unclear/unable to identify them or they’d have been charged. They were roommates that lived there, legally, with no concrete evidence of wrongdoing.
One other was charged. The third made a deal to testify against the other two. It's in the video.
Dont do drugs
This case just saddens me so much. That there are people that treat other people as trash, use them for own selfish reasons, discard them .
She met and married her husband at Burning Man. Let’s not pretend that she never tried drugs.
Do you think that “taking drugs” by your volunteer will is the same of being drugged to be raped?
@@bilingualway not at all. But taking drugs with strangers, accepting more drugs from them, then going to their house and doing even more drugs is just inexcusably stupid behavior. Even if these guys weren’t predatory rapists, these girls could have died just from being dumb enough to risk od-ing in a stranger’s house and getting dumped exactly how they were.
@@TentinQuarantino_ You speak inconvenient facts.
Literally nobody stated otherwise. How is that relevant?
@@hollydaugherty2620 watch it again, they did so say otherwise.
Young people think all this " partying" is harmless, but don't kid yourself, IT ISNT!
Don't blame them. The men are old af praying on them.
@@DesertBirdiethese comments are all wild. These women are dead because evil men killed them. There may or may not have been choices that could’ve been made differently, but had these men not existed these two women would still be here.
@@DesertBirdieThis isn't victim blaming. I'm willing to bet that if they could, they'd tell people how much they regret making the decisions they made that night that made them more vulnerable.
I cant believe i caught this freshly uploaded at 21 minutes 😮. Stay safe everyone and be careful out here
I can’t believe the neighbor didn’t call for help that’s sickening to me
What married woman goes to some random man's house like this?
Excatlly and using drugs
She was a model, she probably thought she was going to make some Hollywood connections... That's why all 3 guys should be behind bars they all knew exactly what they were doing they all knew they were nobodies but still kept up with the lie to get the girls into the apartment
I don't think she was a typical wife... very young, still into partying, with a husband who was sure that at the end of the day, she was his.
My husband would also trust me, I'm just out of the partying phase of life and frankly not gullible enough.
Victim-blaming says a lot about you as a person. Pretending you’ve never done anything risky is easy when you are still alive.
One in a woke marriage
She would NEVER do drugs. . . . We are doing lines in the kitchen.
Yeah, they always paint the people who died as wonderful saints.
Happy they’re gone
@@HANNIBALBARCA247 wow!!!! are you for real?????
Seriously? Take a walk buddy.@@HANNIBALBARCA247
As a former party girl, most people who do "party drugs" aka coke, shrooms, mdma, lsd DONT do hard drugs like heroin or fyntenol
My heart goes out to Jim. Not only was he a victim too, but he lost his beloved in such a horrific way. I went through something similar at 17 except I was attacked while alone. I couldn't imagine if my bf had been with me and been killed. 😭
I hope you’re okay, brave person
Did they videotape you too?
So funny people making up stories just to get attention from strangers online. You were never attacked. It never happened.
Eh... He dodged a bullet.
I just don’t get why people feel the need to tell their personal stories to strangers online.
Rule No. 1: do not use drugs.
truth. its not hard. all my friends most stupid decisions were a direct result of their choice to do drugs
I understood one thing watching crime shows.Don't trust anyone, whether it's someone you are married to for 12 years or someone you just met 12 mins ago.But still, if you have to pick one, go with 'stranger danger'.
Thank you 48hurs.
Beware of any guy who does the duck face in all his pictures... jus sayin
Beware of women doing that as well
Lol.
Parents please teach your daughters from young to stay away from drugs and not to trust strangers. One can enjoy your life and youthfulness without doing all these irrisponsible,crazy things.
It's all at your own risk... People choose. Some sensibly, some not so sensibly... "Don't talk to strangers" isn't something just for kids. It applies to all age groups....RIP!
The key word here is simply FENTANYL
PREDATORS*
OPEN BORDER
@@salebrosity22 but we don't have open borders! Please, don't try to be political when someone has been murdered! What part of there's plenty of crazy murders from here in the USA!
I was given fentanyl in hospital,nasty stuff.RIP
@@lisathomas627i was given when having several injections in my back & hips. Never, ever again.
Ah, the sweet sinister sound of that cello...
imho its the worst theme ever. especially the silly backwards cymbal. COME ON
It's a guitar specifically the Fender Player II Stratocaster HSS!
@@swallowedinthesea11 Among other instruments it seems...how very interesting...
@@TR-707 I don't particularly care for it, I meant more that the sound signifies another up coming episode of 48 Hours.
Everyone in here leaving nasty comments must not have children. Yeah these young ladies made lots of mistakes, but most young adults do. Doesn’t excuse predators from taking advantage. The least they could have done is get then medical attention asap not wait until it was too late.
there is supposed to be a cctv in front of any hospital to ensure that they know who the person bringing a patient
David removed the license plates when he brought them to the hospital.
Many people drive around without plates in LA. Most high end vehicles don’t even have the holes to insert them. People would rather not drill holes into the vehicle & risk a ticket to uphold resale value & aesthetics.
Married girl doing coke at a club given to her by a complete stranger and then decides to get into a vehicle with the same atranger and two other strangers. No way anything bad could possibly happen.
I wanted to say the same thing...
Way to blame the victim! Disgusting! She was in her twenties. We all did wild things in our twenties.
@@lizg.8626yeah but unfortunately she ended up dead.
@lizg.8626 no we didn't ALL do wild things in our 20s, but those of us who didn't were ridiculed by people like you and labelled boring or prudish.
No one blaming.... She was engaged.... So it was bad move... Doing drugs with strangers.... Just saying it was a bad situation from the beginning
My heart breaks for their families
Very good quality shows. All those cases are tragic, yet very interesting.
Nobody that can read, 🤣 thinks of Los Angeles as Glitz & Glamour.🙄 MAYBE, In 1980s-1990s they did 🤔 But DEFINITELY Not now,2024!😂
It was getting bad in the early 2000's
So true!
LA is a cesspool of corruption & crime.
😮 so true. Especially with the Diddys and Weinsteins running around 😮
Love 48hrs! ❤
Don't do drugs. Don't do drugs with people you just met. Don't go to stranger's home and do drugs. ...
Sad story, why would these two beautiful smart women go with men they didn’t know. One is married and she leaves with guys to either another party or to their home. Girls code is you NEVER GO WITH GUYS YOU MEET AT A CLUB OR PARTY. YOU DRIVE YOURSELF AND DONT GO TO A PRIVATE PARTY or a home party. WOMEN USE common senses and always be cautious. Don’t allow anyone to love bomb you and flatter you thats what a predator does to try and earn your trust.
Yeah, look what Wade Wilson did after leaving one club with 2 women he had just met in a club in Ft. Myers, Fl. In less than 8 hours he killed one of them and less than 8 hours after that he kidnapped and killed another poor woman. Be safe y'all, bad things happen to guys too, but females usually can't defend as well as a guy. God bless you all. 🙏
Victim blaming at its finest.
@@hollydaugherty2620exactly. So disgusting.
@@hollydaugherty2620it’s not blaming it’s being smart and not trusting strangers!
It's a warning and reminder to others to think, use common sense, and not make the same mistake.
This is so infuriating!!! These beautiful women were somehow detained at the house when they wanted to leave and likely r worded by these three a holes. I wish the neighbor had called the cops. There may have been small chance to save them. I do not want anyone to victim blame these two women did want many young people do and should be able to go out and have fun at a night club.
They put themselves in that situation
What an awful tragedy... my son passed away at a young age. Safe in his home and asleep. My heart goes out to these family's. Prayers and love.
Thank you for reporting on these horrible people. R.I.P to the victims.
Hilda’s parents, especially, move me to tears, and their decision o donate her organs. Wow
Unfortunately they were not as innocent as they were portrayed. 🤷
Poor Jane.. I don’t believe she killed her husband.. not at all.. it’s very tragic when innocent ppl get locked up, it’s such a miscarriage of justice.. how do you give back someone 20yrs of their life? You just cannot.. our time here on earth is so valuable and precious.. it’s just sad and worse that Bob never got true justice either.. Rip ♥️🙏🥲
With the internet, how could women fall for his bogus claim of being a producer and working for a big studio?
He had pictures with famous people, and put on a good show. But more important he had the party favors.
@@dmreddragon6 Stupid people fell for his lies. So simple to research people now. No excuse.
I think they were just partying 🤷♀️
Who is googling someone in a club?
Drugs
Hilda and Christy were ADORABLE. But there needs to be accountability that they willingly and knowingly took party drugs with strange men. There is zero proof these men knew the coke was laced with fentanyl, AND THEY WOULD NEVER DROP THEM AT A HOSPITAL WHERE EVIDENCE CAN BE GATHERED IF THEY MEANT THEM HARM!!! The men were twice their size, so they could do the same lines without OD'ing. 2 facts- yes these men are shady, and yes the girls are responsible for what happened. RIP beautiful girls...
Music, drugs, alcohol, and kids I don’t see a recipe for disaster
living dangerously
Good times, and don't forget sex..
Nothing new about that, I was a young adult in the 70's, the height of the sex, drugs & rock-n-roll era. MOST kids don't end up dead or murdered from their youthful escapades.
They were not kids, and they can make their own decisions good or bad... it's called being a adult..
@@Mklepiros I'm 58 years old, anyone under 30 are still kids to me. Try being kind, it takes less energy to be kind than it does being bitter & mean, try being kind, you might love it!
If i were the husband I'd be absolutely furious at her recklessness.
Well good thing you’re not then huh 🙄
What would that accomplish? If I were her husband I would be beside myself with grief.....and that is IT.
Well thankfully you’re not!
Excatlly and using drugs
54:20 this is so sad & terrible, I can't imagine the parents grief to lose their baby girl but to hold the other teenage victim responsible when he came close to losing his life as well is just wrong & cruel. Adding shame on top of the guilt the kid already feels for being a survivor when she died! Be mad at the killer not the victim, he is the one who took your child
My heart is shattered for the families
Yes, truly sad.
Moral of the Story so Not Go with Strangers...and maybe Party less.
In regards to the last case, “The troubled…”, I wanted to know if they tested the blood on the ceiling and walls. She said the dog was bleeding and dogs shake themselves and their heads frequently, which would explain the blood, which could be refuted if it was tested to see if it’s human. So far I’m only part of the way through though so maybe they addressed that issue.
One of the girl also was just married and still decided to go to a stranger house. Better I do not make any comments
Some people are in open marriages, we don’t know their situation
@@nikopalmer6471 No such thing as an open marriage. Its literally an oxymoron.
@@--------RR007---------- You don’t get to decide what decisions people make. You don’t like it - great, don’t do it.
Yes better you don't do make any comments and better do work on sentence structure😅
Young people are so irresponsible and unconcerned about their safety. They set themselves up for this.
Christie was described as "there was nothing she wasn't afraid to do." That unfortunate trait was the thing to have led to her death. Too bad she didn't have fear. She sounds like she was manic. Poor lady.
Couple of women (one married) go back to a strangers house to party after doing drugs in the VIP lounge. What could go wrong?
Don't do drugs, don't go with strange men and party recklessly. They did not deserve what happened to them of course. However live well and with more virtue, personal responsibility and they be alive. Tragic. Don't do drugs or be around people who do.
the "don't do drugs and stay away from addicts" thing is really reductive. people don't stop loving their family and friends when they become addicts, nor do disadvantaged young people always have the experience and foresight to avoid addiction when presented the opportunity to escape life for awhile. without a social safety net to catch people falling into addiction, and a prison system hungry for labor, it's not a surprise to me that there's so much of my class of '22 dead and buried or in prison already
What was a married woman doing blowing Coke with a complete stranger in his apartment at 5 o’clock in the morning? That’s way beyond having a little fun at the bar.
For realllls
Those of us that live in this area- This is not 1952
Hollywood is a rundown, beat up tired town, it's not attractive, it's depressing, and trust me, there's no glitz and glamor anywhere in LA county
Orange county is the beautiful part of Southern California, still, you would not call it glitz and glamor
These 48 hours riders based in Ohio or some tiny nowhere town? Bc they don't know what they're talking about
THIS is Incredible!!!!!! Absolutely haunting when u think about Lori and Chad and the horrible things they did! Kuddos to Ryan for telling his story and being vulnerable. He admited to the hold jt had on him and explained how he went down a dangerous rabbithole!
Never trust a guy who tries to unironically look like Derek Zoolander
Ive watched a lot of crime stories but for some reason this one made me cry and my heart break literslly....this is just so sad and messed up
I can't believe how they casually dropped the victims off at the hospital and just walked away like nothing happened! So cruel.
At last they tried to give them a chance some people would have just buried the bodies
I feel bad for jane in the last case...u can tell she is an innocent woman...i do not believe she killed her husband...just digusting and the kids should be disgusted with themselves. I think she should take a lie detector and prove her innocence
Doing coke in 2021 is wild
Why ?
@@ibobeko4309 imminent death from fentanyl
Coke laced with Fentanyl is wild.
Just build up your tolerance to fentanyl and you don’t have to worry about the coke 😎
@@alaskayoung3413🤦🏽♀️☠️
Growing up with loving families woman can be trusting and not see the evil lurking....never never go off with a stranger....don't use dating sites, don't get in cars...😢
“Only taking cocaine”. This is an unpopular statement, but those girls walked right into this.
That doesn't mean they deserved what they suffered. Victim blaming is not the answer
@@kanchankanade4834 It’s not victim blaming. It’s serving as a warning to others so they won’t suffer the same fate. Don’t drive 90 miles an hour on a curved road at night. The odds of something bad happening are very high
👏👏👏🎯🎯🎯
@@kanchankanade4834not their fault, but they definitely could also take necessary precaution---without this there will be more victims! people need to realize they need to take precautions
@@kanchankanade4834play stupid games, win stupid prizes
NEVER light up a room, you will live much longer. Oh, and don't do drugs MMM MKAY.
How weird that all 3 suspects likely took their own lives.
Just don't do drugs. It's really easy to NOT ever start doing drugs, especially if you choose to not hang out with people who do drugs.
Evil world
💯💯💯
Evil people who lives in this world.
I like how this guy admitted to being anti-marriage then meets a model and says she was "different"😂
One who was 17 years younger, to boot.
Jan Cilliers is a decent man. It's very sad
What's so funny exactly?
What's your point?
17 years younger, a model, that had me laughing too
What a monster, this broke my heart, for all involved. Rip Angels your life was taken way before your time
why would they even do drugs buy someone they dont know at all
thank you guy for the likes 10
If she was married...what the heck was she doing going to drug fueled parties alone? She had everything from the age of 15 as a top model...why be that reckless?
My GenZ granddaughters tell me we can’t think like that anymore (let alone say it) that young women should be able to do as they like without fear from predatory males. I despair, psychopaths sadly don’t recognise that rule any more than a bus can stop if you walk in front of it, we don’t have the right to cross the road just when we feel like it, we do it safely. There’s a responsibility to keep ourselves safe, knowing there are dangers out there.
@@sarahwall3528 hi, im gen z. i have a feeling your granddaughters are more trying to direct your attention towards the root of the issue. look through these comments; i still haven't seen anyone remarking on the obvious callousness of the men involved, but 80% of this comment section boils down to "sad they died, but don't make bad decisions and you won't die early". socially speaking, women have sidled the burden of mens' violence for much of human history. keep your skirt below the knee, cover your drink, ask your uber driver what your name is. it's not that those are all great things to do to prevent becoming a victim, but if it's all you have to add to situations like this video, you're shifting responsibility from where it belongs. the issue isn't women being thoughtless from time to time, it's men being violent, entitled, and temperamental in ways that women usually unlearn before they're 6 years old
@@sal-my1idMen biologically have more of a propensity to criminality and sexual crimes but that doesn’t make them all bad. Your comments seem incredibly sexist, imagine a man making similar comments about the female population. I can see gen z are widening the gender gap again. Everything goes in circles.
I feel sorry for the fiancee... Not only did he lose the girl that took his heart but he also found out that she had no problem using drugs when he was out of town and going home with strange men. This has nothing to do with the case so don't say I'm victim blaming it even if they left alive just saying I felt sorry for the husband to find all that out at once and then for it to be made public.
What is wrong with youb
@@viridianacruz76 ?
I'm always telling my girls that there's a reason that the Bible says they will live longer if they honor their parents. 😢
This is so heartbreaking. What a monster that guy is. All 3 of them are monsters!!! These poor girls. So so sad. RIP beautifuls!! Sending prayers to the families.
They are all monsters and cheaters. What the hell was a married woman hanging out with another man?? Fun?! Go have fun with your husband at home not some creep you just met!! SO STUPID!!!!
If one is serious bout their dreams and careers one should not party too hard without their conscious attached....
I'm so sorry for your losses😭😭😭😭
This story as so many others is has to be a learning experience for young people not to trust in strangers not to take drugs when will they learn!!
There are to many monsters walking around free.
Instead of an uber, why didnt they text a relative and tell them whats going on and ask for help? Why not call 911?
Let this be a teaching moment for all: don’t behave recklessly with your life; Don’t waste your life at loud parties with questionable strangers in the name of “pursuing fun”. If you’re going to be a party girl, don’t be surprised when a bad person takes advantage of your reckless behavior. It’s tragic yes, but this lifestyle lends itself to danger.
As a parent, i would be absolutely furious my kid could be so stupid amd reckless.
Hmmm this episode brought light to so much more
Jane sure seems more and more guilty as time goes by.
I’d love to know what specifically she does with advocacy groups. I think it’s awesome that she’s giving back
Hey, you’re awesome, have a great day/night.
I hope one of these three cowards comes clean and tells the truth about what happened.
They probably already did.
I’m not victim blaming but why would you leave a perfectly safe public party with three strange men to go to home that you don’t know. Especially if you are married. Even just looking at these three men I can see predator written all over their faces.
She was probably trying to be a wing woman to her dear friend so she wouldn’t be alone. Who knows what the creep told her? Maybe they had mutual acquaintances so she thought it would be safe. Don’t victim blame.
this is a very common type of crime, it happens all over the world.
They loved the drugs …cocaine is a hell of a drug…predator knew what he was doing ..
Date drugs. They said that.
1:26:44 poor women 😢
Look How badly she suffered and aged😔💔
For some reason her innocent face in the courtroom reminded me of my mom's😔💔
This why I dont go to parties no safer place than home to have a get together with ppl that love you
I've never in my life gone out and partied.
On my honeymoon I wanted to go to the beach , watch the sunset and get frisky. My husband laughed and said no. I thought, what an asshole, well I knew when I married him he wasn't romantic. Of course I had to ask why not. He said you don't want to be on the beach at night, it's not like the movies. This was the 80's. Im glad he was good about keeping me safe. I sure miss him. He was terrible at shooting a gun😂 which I'm spot on. He was better at being responsible. Every time I came up with a crazy idea he reeled me in. Now that I'm a widow......skies the limit. I wish, im terminal and it really sucks.