Well done and thanks for the closed caption my hearing is going so much appreciated. I think you've convinced me to go with the 5600X. There is almost a $100.00 difference at a 2% loss or gain.
I got myself the ryzen 5600x with an xfx radeon 6800xt, and I can say it is the best combo in terms of money/performance within the last generation if you're looking for the "high-end" tier.
@@brentw0681 I would disagree. First of all, you lose the ability to use SAM (smart access memory) if you put an nvidia or intel component in the mix. Also, I mentioned "high-end"... 6800xt is a better card than 3060 or even 3070.
@@anjayl 3070 is high end it's better than a 2080 ti "high end" means nothing itself. It's a relative and subjective term. For 1080p, 3060ti or 3070 is high end, for 1440p it's not..
very useful video! Im building my first pc and I was deciding if the 5800x was worth getting over the 5600x when it came to gaming (which would be my main use of my pc) I think im going to get the 5600x now! it seems more worth my money
@@andrewmorris3479 i have had always an Intel CPU. However, i will buy this beast for my next setup even if it's more expensive than the i5 11600K. I care about performance in the same 6-Core segment !
@@basharalloush4618 You won’t regret it! It’s an amazing CPU.
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These results show that FPS is no longer a useful metric for a CPU's performance running games. Improvements in GPUs and software can account for this. It follows that you may notice other things happen more slowly, or even just less accurately, while FPS remains consistent.
Thanks for the video Jarrod But wouldn't it make more sense to compare the CPU's 1% lows instead of avg, when a lack of CPU processing power (in gaming) is mostly manifested as stutters. As oppose to a lack of GPU power which just means longer frametimes but usually at a more even spread
@@agentf9553 Nah. What I did instead was look at the games I was planning on playing, and looking at the videos testdata from those games only. Thinking about it, the overall average can actually be a bit misleading in the sense that if I only play games where the 1% lows are identical between the two CPU's. Then it doesn't change anything for me that the 8-core might be X? faster on average. Hope this makes sense
I loved my 5600x, but it couldn't handle Ultra settings on flight simulator. So I swapped to the 5800x this week. Found it on sale for $220 US, which is less than I paid for the 5600x a year ago. I picked up 15fps on ultra settings and improved seemingly everything about my rig. Definitely runs hotter, though. Saw temps hit 70c despite having a 360mm radiator.
Yeah it runs pretty hot. Just upgraded from my old 1600 to a 5800x this week for about 205$ on discount. Noticed an immediate jump in performance in Tarkov. My Snowman aircooler couldn't handle it tho. The cpu was idling at 60c until i disabled boost. Got a 240L cooler yesterday and it doesnt go over 65c on 100% load.
This is why I'm getting a 12-core. I'll have plenty of Firefox tabs, videos, Discord, etc running in the background, which will make use of the 4-6 available cores. We need gaming tests while things are running in the background
8-12 cores are for rendering. If you're an average gamer, it'll be very hard to push all 6 cores on the 5600x. The extra money can go towards the next tier gpu which will give you way more fps for the money compared to a strong cpu.
@@brentw0681 Who said that Firefox tabs, videos, Discord, etc need 6 cores? The point I made is that quite a few games utilize 6-8 cores at any point, and for lowest render latency I don't want game computations to pause because other tasks in the background need to use the same cores. Firefox tabs, videos, Discord, etc running in the background absolutely do affect fps and latency if they are forced to run on the same core that is needed by a game
I run all of these fine on a base 5600. Lmao. You absolutely do not need 12 cores to handle all of this. Just adequate amount of RAM in this situation so your computer isn’t yeeting itself into oblivion.
@@AcemanAido Don't buy x570 motherboards if you aren't going to use those extra PCIe 4.0 lanes. Just go for a b550 because it's better for overclocking and has enough PCIe 4.0 lanes for your GPU and an extra ssd. Also don't buy the b550 tomahawk. The shit literally has the I/O of a mini-itx motherboard. Go for the gigabyte pro or the asus rog strix-f instead. But honestly if you aren't going to overclock go for the intel 11400f and spend the extra money on a GPU with a better cooler or an extra ssd.
im going to upgrade my cpu from r5 3600 too 5600x. Sadly 3600 isnt working that good as i though, overheating and yesterday i tryed to play mortal online 2, i just had like 20-60fps, for me guy with 144hz monitor(1080p) its unplayable.
In my country, a PC gaming company called Illegear is selling the R5 5600X for about $350 and the R7 5800X for about $514 as of February 2022. Since gaming performance between the two CPU is not that big enough, I think I'd save my money and buy the R5.
Had 5600x and swapped it for a 5800x and it was worth it for my workloads and general user experience, highly recommend it if you do absolutely anything besides gaming on your PC. In USA the 5800x is on sale $15 off with the code they give you.
Nah. I can game fine with hundreds of chrome tabs and discord running in the background plus watching videos on RUclips without significant frame drops
@@rm4213 so... what exactly was the point in that.... and why did you have a 3600 without a gpu? dont tell me you sold your old gpu before the launch....
Now with intels 12th gen and Ryzen is coming with new stuff = it goes towards more cores and more threads. So I'm very happy that I went with the 5800X and RTX 3080, 32GB Ram and 3TB storage.
@@seklinkin9560 well, that's an understandable mindset, I just don't see 3tb as enough of a start I guess, I personally have 10tb and was supposed to have 8 more if things didn't go wrong, plus I have about 7tb more in external drives thst I plan to add another 5tb to, I have no god damn idea how some shows and games took up all that space but here I am
Why would you test cyberpunk on high settings, doesn;t that make it GPU bottlenecked which is why there is little to no difference? I'd be curious to see cpu/gpu usage during those ''Benchmarks'' ....
I had and its in csgo only slightly above a half of fps of 5600x :-| but modern games run very similar 3060 130w is a beast and gpu bound games are astonishing at the laptop
Just get the 5600x and dump the rest of your money in the most powerful GPU you can afford. AMD's PBO makes great overclocking stupidly easy, using it is almost mandatory for everyone!
6 cores may seem sufficient now, but wait till everything is 8c/16 optimised due to consoles... The only disadvantage of getting 5800X is that is is not thermally efficient, bad design.
I think that's from inconsistent lids not the cpu itself. I've got a 5800x with a fuma scythe 2 and I get 35c idle and 65-80c under load depending on the game.
Hey Jarrod, this question is unrelated to the video, but since I know you've used the aero for a while i was hoping you could help me make a decision. I'm looking at both the aorus and the aero and i cant really see a difference; aside from aesthetics. I was wondering if there is a difference between the 2 models. I was also wondering if there was any benifit to buying the 17in compared to the 15 as a uni student. atm im leaning towards the aero cause it looks better imo.
I had to go with more expensive 5800X chip, can't go lower than 8c/16t for computing these days, great chip btw love it! next I will do a big jump to 16c/32t when 6000 series comes out
I got the 5 5600x last year for £170 to upgrade my gaming pc from the 7 1800x, but today I have just picked up the 7 5800x for £155 on amazon, which will be put into my dedicated editing pc, or do I swap my gaming pc CPU for the 5800x and use the 5600x for editing pc? yet looking at these specs the 5800x is a work horse while both hit the similar fps mark in gaming. so I guess it is a no brainer for the cpu to go into the editing pc.
In some localities the 5600X can be found for MSRP or in my case I snagged it for $280 USD and had another $20 taken off when paired with a motherboard and this was back in early March. The 5800X in some areas can be found for $430 USD and the same $20 off with a motherboard deal still applies in those areas.
You went to Micro center lol. They also have the 5800x for $400. I originally ordered the 5900x off Amazon last week but I cancelled the order and will be driving to MC to pick up the 5800x tomorrow.
Yup, and I'm also aware of the 5800x price drop which I kinda wish I held out longer. My local Micro Center also has stock of the 5900x and 5950x at MSRP. I said some localities because apparently quite a few places in Europe have similar stock and prices or the 3rd gen ryzen parts. Plus it avoids having to deal with morons who cry that not everyone has a Micro Center so I just leave the name out of it.
For those juggling between whether that premium is worth it in August 2021when prices dropped a bit, 6:55. - This might be the deciding factor especially for those looking at upcoming Battlefield titles.
Could you do a laptop vs PC comparison of equivalent specs?? I mean is a 5600H on par with a 5600X, or a 5800H is comparable to 5600X? And similarly, what is a typical laptop 3060 (say 80 or 90W) comparable to-a desktop 2070? A laptop 3070 providers similar performance to what desktop card?
I want to buy cpu for Unreal Engine 5 i don't play games tho Confused in 5600x and 5800x ...?? Shall i just get 5600x and save some $$$ or else pick 5800x will it be worth !??
Now what about VR? I know it was a niche thing, but it's becoming quite popular now due to the Quest 2, so maybe a VR game like Half Life Alyx would be good if you have any type of headset (Quest 2 + link could work at max res and refresh for example)?
BFV results: Yep, that´s why I resold my 3600 quickly and went back to 2700x, 8 cores is 8 cores. It matters in MP games with 50+ players... Too bad every1 is redoing CB retests while there is almost no data on Warzone and BFV ... Sure there are even more un-optimized games with huge amount of players. Rumors are BF6 is coming out soon also. Would be good to make informed decisions: Intel vs AMD, last gen(or 2 gen old) 8 core vs newest 6 core. It´s clear by now that CB ST score correlates quite well with Single Player game FPS results and that in Video Editing AMD 12- cores decimates everything else, but what about the odd ball situations. And the player base is not too small in WZ\BF neither...
It also depends on availability, total system price and total cash available. If you're building a $1500 system, extra $150 is +10%. 5800x might be worth it because of +30% productivity speed for +10% money is a good deal! Future proofing is also a thing, especially when new Xbox and PS5 have 8 cores!
@@lunaticfpv17 Well actually it does matter A LOT because most of the PC games are ports from Xbox and PS5. It's also better to have as many (or more) and stronger cores because many times they don't really optimise for PC all that well. Xbox and PS5 also use AMD ZEN2 cores, they are are very comparable to standard PC processor cores. Phones use RISC ARM cores and yes, they are are not comparable.
i don't think the extra 2 cores are worth the 70% premium they're asking over in my country. in fact, i'd buy the 12 core over the 8 core if i wanted to spend the extra. not a lot more for four more cores.
5800x price is insane, if you compare it to 3700x,yeah-yeah it faster, BUT, almost 40% higher price... I'll pick it up used later or, if it will go on sale
Bought a used 5800x for 400 dollars on ebay. Much better price at 400 bucks as u get proportional price increase for core increase. 300 to 400 and 6 core to 8 core.
I wanted the 5800x or the 5900x but they were too damn expensive here in Ontario, so I just went with the 10700k for $409 cad on sale at newegg and don't regret it. I've heard amd users had compatibility issues, bios issues, etc...while Intel is just plug and play so I prefer that headache free experience. However I did have to struggle with Win10 booting issues after I cloned it, it's resolved but an annoying process-it was samsung migration software.
Yeah people didn’t get the correct motherboard so it’s a generation behind and then have to flash the bios and it’s a mess but I have a 5800x and it runs amazing with my 3070ti
You'd think maybe we'd be bored of Zen 3 by now, but NAH! and the 5600X naysayers are just plain wrong. By the time you're unhappy with it, you wouldn't be thrilled with a 5900X either. Just ask the 3600 and 3900X if I'm lying.
nope, not true, most games on dx12 now use all cores available, ask any content creator who games minimized game with multiple background tasks will crush both 3600 and 5600x, 6 cores/8 cores are only for basic end user nowadays...
5600x is all you need for gaming unless you do vid ed type things that actually use those extra cores. Few games actually use several cores to this day... single core is still king.. there ARE some that use the extra cores, but the difference is so negligible that you wont notice unless you see a chart lol... I mean really hahaha once you get past 100 fps in a game what does 15 fps even matter when you cant even tell the difference unless you look at a spreadsheet with chart results LMFAO!!!!!! why do you think all those 16+core cpu's from a decade ago vanished and the core count dropped over the years till now lol. PC games.... you will not notice a difference lol....those charts make it seem like a huge difference but in reality it just a matter of a few seconds.... seconds you wont even notice. Today its the GPU that matters
5600x should be more than enough for me, usually I only use my pc for 4 hours a day, less than 1 hour gaming, and the rest is watching youtube, beside, it is good to know 5600x is much cheaper than 5800x, just spent over $700 to get a 6600XT replace the broken rx 580. just that already burn a whole in my wallet. thanks for the video about the performance difference between these two, now I know which one to get.
So definitely not worth the extra $ if all you do is 99% gaming. Right? Is there anything else I’m missing? Cause I’m literally just about to buy one lol. What makes it even worse too, is the 12100 and 12400 is kicking ass! And the cheap Mobos were just released? I Love competition!!!! Check out Gamers Nexus, the 12100 was kicking the 5600’s ass in gaming workloads!!! Lmao love to see it
Using stock cooler for 5600X will increase difference by several percent. Btw Does anybody overclock still? Makes no sense these days, unless you are lost in the 90's lol
Thanks for the video Jarrod. Can you do a similar detailed comparison video between 5700x and 5800x? It will be really helpful for a lot people since the price is almost similar now and most of us don't want to spend extra money for a new motherboard and ram. I am struggling to choose between these two for productivity before and after overclocking.... I will be using Noctua NH-G15 and I am worried about 5800x temperature.
Well here's a probably not so popular opinion - so I switched my 5 3600 for a 7 5800x aand can't really see a huge difference tbh. Sure the benchmarks are better (used cinebench) but unfortunately the 5800 got soo hot I had to upgrade also my cooler. All in all in terms of running the System and games it runs pretty much similar, I wouldn't notice a change if someone would switch it inside my case and keep me in the dark about it. As for the multicore games support in the future well.,. it's the same story since the 2000's when first dual/quad core cpu's were showing up, there is little to none games that utilize many cores after those ~15 years
I had another question about the two Ryzen cpu about virtualization performance in the two models but will be searching for another video to see if there is one already made.
I went for the ryzen 5 5600x because i seen people struggling a bit with the rtx 3060. I work as an artist so i wanted the rtx 3060 for the cheap performance on photoshop, cinema 4d and stuff like that, the thing is that the gpu itself costs the same as an armed PC without graphics card so i went for the best/cheap cpu i could afford that can stand to the rtx 3060. Now i think the ryzen 5 5600x is not enough because i see more load on the cpu than the gpu :( I was thinking on upgrading to the ryzen 7 5800x to have a bit more power but after this video I'm not sure 😅
@@SimakSantana Yeah i mean, for me the 5600X is excellent for my daily task, painting, rendering, multitasking, daily use, etc. But specifically on games i can see the bottleneck. But after all this is the best pc i ever had after 20 years of pure trash :') I will say if you have the money go straight for the 5900X bro
@@LawAbidingSociopath69 Thanks for the suggestion! I found out that 5600X is perfect for my needs. I'd been using it for +3 moths with no problems 🙌, i don't play much i, actually render stuff and paint in photoshop but i play some games when there's free time (if there's any XD)
IMO in 2021 don't get only 6 cores in anything but a budget system. With discord and RUclips/Twitch open 8 cores today is already making a difference in new games, as more games come out over the next 3 years you'll want to close everything in the background with only 6 cores. Many people keep there chrome tabs minimized while gaming. Double the price of a cheap i5 for a few % difference in a budget system seems silly IMO. Get the i5 and a decent MB/powersupply/case instead of the 5600x and the cheapest MB/powersupply/case you can find. Buying literally the most expensive 6 core in the world on a budget system seems silly. A lot of people misremember that Ryzen's are faster, but its only the Ryzen 9s that are the fastest, dollar for dollar intel still wins often. If your building a mid-high end system and already have nice other components, 6 cores is pretty entry level for 2021-2024. If your building a system today its to play new and future games, otherwise you wouldn't need the upgrade in the first place. Intel wins easily in all price ranges except the Ryzen 9s.
I couldn't agree more with this. If your budget allows then get an 8 core CPU. Which if you're looking at an r5 5600x you can more than easily afford! I went with a 6 core for a budget system, it was an i5 10400F and I'm hoping to pair an RTX 3060 or 2060 with it.
360€ for 5800x and 290€ for 5600x which one should i pick loking to upgrade from a ryzen 7 3800x cause im frustrated of not getting a graphics card at a normal price for like a year
Just got the 5800x, so that I dont ever have to worry about future cpu demanding games, plus I upgraded from i5 8400 a 6 core cpu and I wanted to make a significant upgrade so 8c made more sense.
@@f.ferenc88 with that logic u shouldnt buy anything tech related. Like 3 years after that people will buy 18 cores cheaper etc etc. Or a new phone every year that is better than the previous. Ill keep this cpu for atleast 4 years as 5800x is overkill atm anyway since I dont use more than 40% of it in any game so far. And the higher res we go the less impact from cpu ull see. I currently play at 1440p, and will go to 4k once the gpus can handle atleast 120fps 4k. And by then ur way more gpu bound than cpu
What about Laptops CPUs. 5800H vs 5600H which one would you take? I bought Lenovo 5 pro with 5800H 3070 but its loud and CPU is as hot as like Intel 9750 fron Asus Scar . I thought if i go down to 5600 with 3060 would work more eficeent and cooler. What you think? I just play sometimes Games but more office and i really liked the Display. Its really bright smooth and Sharp ! Pls Help me ,i can save 400 Euro.. or spent on mistake machine. What About Legion 7? More cooler?
The moment when you're about to discover if you F*cked up with your purchase decision but then you find out you made the best decision ever going with the 5600x at MSRP, Noice!
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5600x: i am more than enough
5800x: but you know you want me
5900x: you cant afford me
Exactly
Why this is so underrated
could it be a problem in a Latopt that 5800x does not include cooler?
fvck this. It's so true
I literally went with the 5800x just cus I wanted it knowing the 5600x is enough and the 5900x is expensive lol
I really need those 8 cores for Minesweeper, Jarrod!!!
Minesweeper 🤓👨🏼💻
@@zfacersane272 tiktok user lol
This channel is the best for comparing CPU benchmarks. Easy to understand and direct to the point keep it up 👍
Glad you like them!
Well done and thanks for the closed caption my hearing is going so much appreciated. I think you've convinced me to go with the 5600X. There is almost a $100.00 difference at a 2% loss or gain.
I got myself the ryzen 5600x with an xfx radeon 6800xt, and I can say it is the best combo in terms of money/performance within the last generation if you're looking for the "high-end" tier.
Thank you for this info, I’m quite literally a noob to all this
3060ti r5 5600x best value
@@brentw0681 I would disagree. First of all, you lose the ability to use SAM (smart access memory) if you put an nvidia or intel component in the mix. Also, I mentioned "high-end"... 6800xt is a better card than 3060 or even 3070.
@@anjayl 3070 is high end it's better than a 2080 ti "high end" means nothing itself. It's a relative and subjective term. For 1080p, 3060ti or 3070 is high end, for 1440p it's not..
@@brentw0681 but inherently, 1080p gaming is NOT high end, so I don't see your point.
Multi core performance is very important for emulation, so that's one good reason for grabbing the extra two cores if you do a lot of that.
very useful video! Im building my first pc and I was deciding if the 5800x was worth getting over the 5600x when it came to gaming (which would be my main use of my pc) I think im going to get the 5600x now! it seems more worth my money
The Ryzen 5 5600X is the best gaming CPU i've ever seen. Impressive stuff !
Agree! Easy to cool and super efficient too.
@@andrewmorris3479 i have had always an Intel CPU. However, i will buy this beast for my next setup even if it's more expensive than the i5 11600K. I care about performance in the same 6-Core segment !
The. Core i7 11700k too
@@nesseihtgnay9419 i was planning to buy an Intel i7 11700K . But now i am going most likely with the Ryzen 5 5600X
@@basharalloush4618 You won’t regret it! It’s an amazing CPU.
These results show that FPS is no longer a useful metric for a CPU's performance running games. Improvements in GPUs and software can account for this. It follows that you may notice other things happen more slowly, or even just less accurately, while FPS remains consistent.
Both good processors. With proper cooling they will boost very well. 6-cores can do it all, and 8-core for productivity. Good comparison review 👍
Thanks for the video Jarrod
But wouldn't it make more sense to compare the CPU's 1% lows instead of avg, when a lack of CPU processing power (in gaming) is mostly manifested as stutters. As oppose to a lack of GPU power which just means longer frametimes but usually at a more even spread
Hi, have you found something where the 1% lows are compared? :)
@@agentf9553 Nah. What I did instead was look at the games I was planning on playing, and looking at the videos testdata from those games only. Thinking about it, the overall average can actually be a bit misleading in the sense that if I only play games where the 1% lows are identical between the two CPU's. Then it doesn't change anything for me that the 8-core might be X? faster on average. Hope this makes sense
Nice shirt! Love COB, saw them live a couple of times.
Got to see them once shortly before Alexi died. RIP 🤘
@@N8Nefarious Yea I saw them back in the day.. 2007 - 2012? with Alexi as well. Those were good times.
I loved my 5600x, but it couldn't handle Ultra settings on flight simulator. So I swapped to the 5800x this week. Found it on sale for $220 US, which is less than I paid for the 5600x a year ago.
I picked up 15fps on ultra settings and improved seemingly everything about my rig. Definitely runs hotter, though. Saw temps hit 70c despite having a 360mm radiator.
Yeah it runs pretty hot. Just upgraded from my old 1600 to a 5800x this week for about 205$ on discount. Noticed an immediate jump in performance in Tarkov. My Snowman aircooler couldn't handle it tho. The cpu was idling at 60c until i disabled boost. Got a 240L cooler yesterday and it doesnt go over 65c on 100% load.
have you dropped the voltage in bios? my 5600x used to run at 68-70c with voltage dropped 1.150 its runs around 59-61@@shiba7287 worth a try
The architecture is beautiful, so scalable 😍
Hey bhai! How come no new vids on your channel? Been waiting for your content.
@@ass5kickin Just short on time buddy, catch a breather in the weekend, after office hours.
This is why I'm getting a 12-core. I'll have plenty of Firefox tabs, videos, Discord, etc running in the background, which will make use of the 4-6 available cores. We need gaming tests while things are running in the background
Internet tabs and discord don't use 6 cores buddy. You could easily get away with 6 or 8. 5600x best gaming CPU 🤣🤣
8-12 cores are for rendering. If you're an average gamer, it'll be very hard to push all 6 cores on the 5600x. The extra money can go towards the next tier gpu which will give you way more fps for the money compared to a strong cpu.
@@HevaNaisdey correct ☝️
@@brentw0681 Who said that Firefox tabs, videos, Discord, etc need 6 cores?
The point I made is that quite a few games utilize 6-8 cores at any point, and for lowest render latency I don't want game computations to pause because other tasks in the background need to use the same cores. Firefox tabs, videos, Discord, etc running in the background absolutely do affect fps and latency if they are forced to run on the same core that is needed by a game
I run all of these fine on a base 5600. Lmao. You absolutely do not need 12 cores to handle all of this. Just adequate amount of RAM in this situation so your computer isn’t yeeting itself into oblivion.
Hey Jarrod, would really appreciate if you included a Total War game as benchmark. A pure cpu bound game
I agree.
Or Ashes of the Singularity or Anno
Thank you for saving me $$$
Went with the 5600x paired with a rtx3070
what motherboard? im thinking x570 tomahawk, thoughts
@@AcemanAido i went with msi gaming edge. Trust me worth it. My 3070 is a msi 3x oc so paired with that was a good choice for me.
@@AcemanAido Don't buy x570 motherboards if you aren't going to use those extra PCIe 4.0 lanes. Just go for a b550 because it's better for overclocking and has enough PCIe 4.0 lanes for your GPU and an extra ssd. Also don't buy the b550 tomahawk. The shit literally has the I/O of a mini-itx motherboard. Go for the gigabyte pro or the asus rog strix-f instead. But honestly if you aren't going to overclock go for the intel 11400f and spend the extra money on a GPU with a better cooler or an extra ssd.
Very dumb imo
im going to upgrade my cpu from r5 3600 too 5600x. Sadly 3600 isnt working that good as i though, overheating and yesterday i tryed to play mortal online 2, i just had like 20-60fps, for me guy with 144hz monitor(1080p) its unplayable.
Rip Alexi. Loved the video as usual. Thanks for all you do.
In my country, a PC gaming company called Illegear is selling the R5 5600X for about $350 and the R7 5800X for about $514 as of February 2022. Since gaming performance between the two CPU is not that big enough, I think I'd save my money and buy the R5.
Had 5600x and swapped it for a 5800x and it was worth it for my workloads and general user experience, highly recommend it if you do absolutely anything besides gaming on your PC. In USA the 5800x is on sale $15 off with the code they give you.
Nah. I can game fine with hundreds of chrome tabs and discord running in the background plus watching videos on RUclips without significant frame drops
I'm like 5 seconds into your video and am giving it a thumbs up for Bodom. Well done!
Your skill is improving each year!
I'd be interested to see how well the 5600H performs in the Acer Nitro 5 with the 3060 graphics.
I went with the 5800x because I use my pc for work as well. Fl studio eats up a lot of resources.
How does it run bro ? I’m currently building a PC and I use fl studio often too .
@@barxweight run great! Fl comes out of the box with a lot of setting that could be optimized. After doing that it’s snappy and fast
You should testing on Assetto Corsa Competizione full grid with 30 cars (more cars more CPU usage)
Another great video, like! Would be nice with a serie af ex. 4790k upgrade patch etc. compared with new cpus to decide a upgrade path if its worth it?
thank you! reassuring that I'm fine with a 5600x
Thank you, this was exactly the right video I was looking for.
Thank you so much for the OC comparison! It's definitely helpful for me. Thank you again 👍🏻
No problem!
great video, thank you! a lot of tests and useful info.
5600x gang!
Best purchase I have ever made to couple with the 3080. Insane 4k performance
Just sold my 3600 and upgraded to the 5600x still no gpu tho
@@rm4213 so... what exactly was the point in that.... and why did you have a 3600 without a gpu? dont tell me you sold your old gpu before the launch....
@@Angel7black I had a 1660 super along with my 3600. Sold the 1660 super for $450 and just going to wait to get a 3060.
@@rm4213 look at Facebook market place for a temp gpu
Just got the 5600x on sale for $170
Very much needed video. Thanks
Now with intels 12th gen and Ryzen is coming with new stuff = it goes towards more cores and more threads.
So I'm very happy that I went with the 5800X and RTX 3080, 32GB Ram and 3TB storage.
Dude, all of these are great, then you went with just 3tb storage
@@mr.randomgamer888 storage is exceptionally easy to upgrade to more when needed.
So 3TB storage is quite OK. At least for me now.
@@seklinkin9560 well, that's an understandable mindset, I just don't see 3tb as enough of a start I guess, I personally have 10tb and was supposed to have 8 more if things didn't go wrong, plus I have about 7tb more in external drives thst I plan to add another 5tb to, I have no god damn idea how some shows and games took up all that space but here I am
Now a year later I can get the 5600x for 230€ while the 5800x is holding firm at 360€... No brainer, I'll get the 5600x... Thx 💪
Nice gpu test, next time test both processors on low graphics settings.
Why would you test cyberpunk on high settings, doesn;t that make it GPU bottlenecked which is why there is little to no difference? I'd be curious to see cpu/gpu usage during those ''Benchmarks'' ....
Thats what i though too, and its true, nearly everyone knows this
@@Shadow-zo8xj Not everyone most people on here as dumb as a orange peel.
Will 5800x handle 40 chrome tabs for pornhub 2k video quality?
I have 5600X with 3060ti is it enough for Blender & 1080P level Editing?
i hope there's a video for 5600x desktop and 5600 laptop :((
Still don't have a 5600H laptop
@@JarrodsTech it would be cool if you can make a 5600h/3060m vs 5600x/3060 comparison
@@JarrodsTech oof thanks jarod hopefully you'll get one soon
I had and its in csgo only slightly above a half of fps of 5600x :-| but modern games run very similar 3060 130w is a beast and gpu bound games are astonishing at the laptop
Just get the 5600x and dump the rest of your money in the most powerful GPU you can afford. AMD's PBO makes great overclocking stupidly easy, using it is almost mandatory for everyone!
Wow... thats exactly that what i am searching for
i was literally making a decision yesterday which one to buy😅thanks jarrod now i know
Wish I would have watched this before I purchased the 5800, great video. thanks
You won't regret, 8 core are more relevant and relevant mate
6 cores may seem sufficient now, but wait till everything is 8c/16 optimised due to consoles...
The only disadvantage of getting 5800X is that is is not thermally efficient, bad design.
I think that's from inconsistent lids not the cpu itself.
I've got a 5800x with a fuma scythe 2 and I get 35c idle and 65-80c under load depending on the game.
@@utewbd That’s pretty whack tbh. I get 25ºC idle and 50-60ºC under load on an i7 9700k, and that’s using a CM Hyper 212 cooler.
Hey Jarrod, this question is unrelated to the video, but since I know you've used the aero for a while i was hoping you could help me make a decision. I'm looking at both the aorus and the aero and i cant really see a difference; aside from aesthetics. I was wondering if there is a difference between the 2 models. I was also wondering if there was any benifit to buying the 17in compared to the 15 as a uni student. atm im leaning towards the aero cause it looks better imo.
I had to go with more expensive 5800X chip, can't go lower than 8c/16t for computing these days, great chip btw love it! next I will do a big jump to 16c/32t when 6000 series comes out
Much love for that T-shirt ♥ RIP Alexi
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I got the 5 5600x last year for £170 to upgrade my gaming pc from the 7 1800x, but today I have just picked up the 7 5800x for £155 on amazon, which will be put into my dedicated editing pc, or do I swap my gaming pc CPU for the 5800x and use the 5600x for editing pc? yet looking at these specs the 5800x is a work horse while both hit the similar fps mark in gaming. so I guess it is a no brainer for the cpu to go into the editing pc.
great video :D thx alot just what i needed
for emulation the 5800x is superior
Micro Center has the 5800x for $400. Now is the time to grab one!
Ryzen 5 5600x with rx 6700
It'll be a godlike combo for 1time investment 🔥
In some localities the 5600X can be found for MSRP or in my case I snagged it for $280 USD and had another $20 taken off when paired with a motherboard and this was back in early March. The 5800X in some areas can be found for $430 USD and the same $20 off with a motherboard deal still applies in those areas.
You went to Micro center lol. They also have the 5800x for $400. I originally ordered the 5900x off Amazon last week but I cancelled the order and will be driving to MC to pick up the 5800x tomorrow.
Yup, and I'm also aware of the 5800x price drop which I kinda wish I held out longer. My local Micro Center also has stock of the 5900x and 5950x at MSRP. I said some localities because apparently quite a few places in Europe have similar stock and prices or the 3rd gen ryzen parts. Plus it avoids having to deal with morons who cry that not everyone has a Micro Center so I just leave the name out of it.
Jarrod, will you be reviewing the alienware m17 r4?
Thanks for the explanation!
For those juggling between whether that premium is worth it in August 2021when prices dropped a bit, 6:55. - This might be the deciding factor especially for those looking at upcoming Battlefield titles.
Could you do a laptop vs PC comparison of equivalent specs??
I mean is a 5600H on par with a 5600X, or a 5800H is comparable to 5600X?
And similarly, what is a typical laptop 3060 (say 80 or 90W) comparable to-a desktop 2070? A laptop 3070 providers similar performance to what desktop card?
I know I'm a little bit late but the stock price now is much lower. thankyou for enlighting me sensei! Subscribed!
Thank you for this review, it helped me decide what to buy
Glad I could help!
I want to buy cpu for Unreal Engine 5 i don't play games tho
Confused in 5600x and 5800x
...??
Shall i just get 5600x and save some $$$ or else pick 5800x will it be worth !??
Now what about VR? I know it was a niche thing, but it's becoming quite popular now due to the Quest 2, so maybe a VR game like Half Life Alyx would be good if you have any type of headset (Quest 2 + link could work at max res and refresh for example)?
If you ONLY game 5600X is good. 2 -3 windows and background programs, favour s the 8 core, I've heard
BFV results: Yep, that´s why I resold my 3600 quickly and went back to 2700x, 8 cores is 8 cores. It matters in MP games with 50+ players...
Too bad every1 is redoing CB retests while there is almost no data on Warzone and BFV ... Sure there are even more un-optimized games with huge amount of players.
Rumors are BF6 is coming out soon also. Would be good to make informed decisions: Intel vs AMD, last gen(or 2 gen old) 8 core vs newest 6 core.
It´s clear by now that CB ST score correlates quite well with Single Player game FPS results and that in Video Editing AMD 12- cores decimates everything else, but what about the odd ball situations. And the player base is not too small in WZ\BF neither...
I managed to get a 5600X for £260 brand new and the MSRP here in the UK is £300 👍
Thanks I have 5600x best
It also depends on availability, total system price and total cash available.
If you're building a $1500 system, extra $150 is +10%. 5800x might be worth it because of +30% productivity speed for +10% money is a good deal!
Future proofing is also a thing, especially when new Xbox and PS5 have 8 cores!
My phone has 8 cores as well. It doesn't mean very much
@@lunaticfpv17 Well actually it does matter A LOT because most of the PC games are ports from Xbox and PS5.
It's also better to have as many (or more) and stronger cores because many times they don't really optimise for PC all that well.
Xbox and PS5 also use AMD ZEN2 cores, they are are very comparable to standard PC processor cores.
Phones use RISC ARM cores and yes, they are are not comparable.
@@lunaticfpv17 matters quite a bit if you also use VMs
i don't think the extra 2 cores are worth the 70% premium they're asking over in my country. in fact, i'd buy the 12 core over the 8 core if i wanted to spend the extra. not a lot more for four more cores.
5800x price is insane, if you compare it to 3700x,yeah-yeah it faster, BUT, almost 40% higher price... I'll pick it up used later or, if it will go on sale
Bought a used 5800x for 400 dollars on ebay. Much better price at 400 bucks as u get proportional price increase for core increase. 300 to 400 and 6 core to 8 core.
I wanted the 5800x or the 5900x but they were too damn expensive here in Ontario, so I just went with the 10700k for $409 cad on sale at newegg and don't regret it. I've heard amd users had compatibility issues, bios issues, etc...while Intel is just plug and play so I prefer that headache free experience. However I did have to struggle with Win10 booting issues after I cloned it, it's resolved but an annoying process-it was samsung migration software.
Yeah people didn’t get the correct motherboard so it’s a generation behind and then have to flash the bios and it’s a mess but I have a 5800x and it runs amazing with my 3070ti
Good video BUT I would have like to also seen if there was a difference in "smoothness" with frame time ms.
In battlefield games there is a significant difference in the percentile lows between the 5600x and 5800x.
Always with the killer shirts my man.
Will the 5800x have more effect on games when games start utilizing 8 cores rather than 6?
Great comparison video.
Thanks!
Got my 5800x for £307 brand new from amazon US lol. Haven't seen that price pop up again..crazy deal
I got a similar deal from Amazon EU for £308 for the 5800x :) I cancelled a 5600x that was on route for £264 another great deal Amazon EU..
You'd think maybe we'd be bored of Zen 3 by now, but NAH! and the 5600X naysayers are just plain wrong. By the time you're unhappy with it, you wouldn't be thrilled with a 5900X either. Just ask the 3600 and 3900X if I'm lying.
nope, not true, most games on dx12 now use all cores available, ask any content creator who games minimized game with multiple background tasks will crush both 3600 and 5600x, 6 cores/8 cores are only for basic end user nowadays...
@@niks660097 lol
5600x is all you need for gaming unless you do vid ed type things that actually use those extra cores. Few games actually use several cores to this day... single core is still king.. there ARE some that use the extra cores, but the difference is so negligible that you wont notice unless you see a chart lol... I mean really hahaha once you get past 100 fps in a game what does 15 fps even matter when you cant even tell the difference unless you look at a spreadsheet with chart results LMFAO!!!!!! why do you think all those 16+core cpu's from a decade ago vanished and the core count dropped over the years till now lol. PC games.... you will not notice a difference lol....those charts make it seem like a huge difference but in reality it just a matter of a few seconds.... seconds you wont even notice. Today its the GPU that matters
well presented video bro! liked and subscribed :)
Thanks and welcome
amasing video ty
Right now you can buy a 5600x (tray) for 279€ here in germany
5600x should be more than enough for me, usually I only use my pc for 4 hours a day, less than 1 hour gaming, and the rest is watching youtube, beside, it is good to know 5600x is much cheaper than 5800x, just spent over $700 to get a 6600XT replace the broken rx 580. just that already burn a whole in my wallet. thanks for the video about the performance difference between these two, now I know which one to get.
how to overclock ryzen 5 5800x to 4.7ghz?
like how much voltz and etc
So definitely not worth the extra $ if all you do is 99% gaming. Right? Is there anything else I’m missing? Cause I’m literally just about to buy one lol. What makes it even worse too, is the 12100 and 12400 is kicking ass! And the cheap Mobos were just released? I Love competition!!!! Check out Gamers Nexus, the 12100 was kicking the 5600’s ass in gaming workloads!!! Lmao love to see it
I'm super happy with Ryzen 5 5600x, it comes with CPU cooler, performance is perfect for my setup (RTX 3070). The price is great in my opinion.
How's the battery life ?
@@c4me540 what do you mean by battery?
Hey men, i see we kinda have the same setup but I have the 3060 instead, i wanna ask you. Do you notice a bottleneck on games? Like, cpu>gpu
@@c4me540 what?
Using stock cooler for 5600X will increase difference by several percent. Btw Does anybody overclock still? Makes no sense these days, unless you are lost in the 90's lol
Thanks for the video Jarrod.
Can you do a similar detailed comparison video between 5700x and 5800x? It will be really helpful for a lot people since the price is almost similar now and most of us don't want to spend extra money for a new motherboard and ram. I am struggling to choose between these two for productivity before and after overclocking.... I will be using Noctua NH-G15 and I am worried about 5800x temperature.
Well here's a probably not so popular opinion - so I switched my 5 3600 for a 7 5800x aand can't really see a huge difference tbh. Sure the benchmarks are better (used cinebench) but unfortunately the 5800 got soo hot I had to upgrade also my cooler. All in all in terms of running the System and games it runs pretty much similar, I wouldn't notice a change if someone would switch it inside my case and keep me in the dark about it. As for the multicore games support in the future well.,. it's the same story since the 2000's when first dual/quad core cpu's were showing up, there is little to none games that utilize many cores after those ~15 years
Any benchmarks for single computer streaming?
Cool, thanks to this video, I can keep my 5600x as I never play games in 1080p and never run Excel EVER!
I had another question about the two Ryzen cpu about virtualization performance in the two models but will be searching for another video to see if there is one already made.
I went for the ryzen 5 5600x because i seen people struggling a bit with the rtx 3060. I work as an artist so i wanted the rtx 3060 for the cheap performance on photoshop, cinema 4d and stuff like that, the thing is that the gpu itself costs the same as an armed PC without graphics card so i went for the best/cheap cpu i could afford that can stand to the rtx 3060. Now i think the ryzen 5 5600x is not enough because i see more load on the cpu than the gpu :( I was thinking on upgrading to the ryzen 7 5800x to have a bit more power but after this video I'm not sure 😅
This is what I’m scared of, savers remorse/the unknown factor of what if. Maybe I’ll just buy the 5900x
@@SimakSantana Yeah i mean, for me the 5600X is excellent for my daily task, painting, rendering, multitasking, daily use, etc. But specifically on games i can see the bottleneck. But after all this is the best pc i ever had after 20 years of pure trash :')
I will say if you have the money go straight for the 5900X bro
@@MasterHKS 5600x is not for AAA games but competitive esport games
if u play AAA games alot go for i5 12th gen
@@LawAbidingSociopath69 Thanks for the suggestion! I found out that 5600X is perfect for my needs. I'd been using it for +3 moths with no problems 🙌, i don't play much i, actually render stuff and paint in photoshop but i play some games when there's free time (if there's any XD)
I'm a simple man, Like for the t-shirt!
thanks for the benchmarks!
IMO in 2021 don't get only 6 cores in anything but a budget system. With discord and RUclips/Twitch open 8 cores today is already making a difference in new games, as more games come out over the next 3 years you'll want to close everything in the background with only 6 cores. Many people keep there chrome tabs minimized while gaming.
Double the price of a cheap i5 for a few % difference in a budget system seems silly IMO. Get the i5 and a decent MB/powersupply/case instead of the 5600x and the cheapest MB/powersupply/case you can find. Buying literally the most expensive 6 core in the world on a budget system seems silly. A lot of people misremember that Ryzen's are faster, but its only the Ryzen 9s that are the fastest, dollar for dollar intel still wins often.
If your building a mid-high end system and already have nice other components, 6 cores is pretty entry level for 2021-2024. If your building a system today its to play new and future games, otherwise you wouldn't need the upgrade in the first place. Intel wins easily in all price ranges except the Ryzen 9s.
I couldn't agree more with this. If your budget allows then get an 8 core CPU. Which if you're looking at an r5 5600x you can more than easily afford! I went with a 6 core for a budget system, it was an i5 10400F and I'm hoping to pair an RTX 3060 or 2060 with it.
What can you afford just go for it 👍
360€ for 5800x and 290€ for 5600x which one should i pick loking to upgrade from a ryzen 7 3800x cause im frustrated of not getting a graphics card at a normal price for like a year
Thank you!
Just got the 5800x, so that I dont ever have to worry about future cpu demanding games, plus I upgraded from i5 8400 a 6 core cpu and I wanted to make a significant upgrade so 8c made more sense.
You wasted money on that extra 2 core, 3 years and people will be buying 12-16 core cpu's for cheaper.
@@f.ferenc88 with that logic u shouldnt buy anything tech related. Like 3 years after that people will buy 18 cores cheaper etc etc. Or a new phone every year that is better than the previous. Ill keep this cpu for atleast 4 years as 5800x is overkill atm anyway since I dont use more than 40% of it in any game so far. And the higher res we go the less impact from cpu ull see. I currently play at 1440p, and will go to 4k once the gpus can handle atleast 120fps 4k. And by then ur way more gpu bound than cpu
Jared will you be doing a review on the legion 5 pro?
Yes
What about Laptops CPUs. 5800H vs 5600H which one would you take? I bought Lenovo 5 pro with 5800H 3070 but its loud and CPU is as hot as like Intel 9750 fron Asus Scar . I thought if i go down to 5600 with 3060 would work more eficeent and cooler. What you think? I just play sometimes Games but more office and i really liked the Display. Its really bright smooth and Sharp ! Pls Help me ,i can save 400 Euro.. or spent on mistake machine. What About Legion 7? More cooler?
The moment when you're about to discover if you F*cked up with your purchase decision but then you find out you made the best decision ever going with the 5600x at MSRP, Noice!
But the 5800X is on Amazon UK for £290!
@@fredsas12 I'm in the US
@@fredsas12 385 bruh where did u get 290 from, just bought one for that