Ok I'm late, however. That was an excellent tutorial and I have watched previously by all the usual suspects - your fellow rw pilot streamers and this was the best. Aside from anything else, you were the first to *explicitly* state that the rudder is not used until the de-crab. People always say the approach is crabbed but never explain how the crab is established and maintained so I was never certain that it wasn't with the rudder. Now I know :-)
Once again an excellent video, thanks so much! My crosswind technique improved a lot after doing it your way, i used to decrab and flare at the same time as written in the Boeing FCTM, i guess the key to a good xwind landing in the sim is to first flare the aircraft and then decrab and keep wings level while at the same time retarding the thrust levers to idle. My next request would be to demonstrate a V1 cut in the Zibo the same way you did in the PMDG NGX a long time ago.
The key thing is to time the de-crab to ensure on touchdown the aircraft is pointing more or less down the runway. The right time to do it will vary and just needs to be judged on the day! FD2S
One of my favorite airports in XP and one of my favorite regions in RL. Native Californian here, but my sis lives in Derby. Oh by the way, great tutorial, very well explained, as always. Looking forward to putting this into practice!
Very nicely done sir. Gutted I couldn't make the members-only discord chat pre-release. One question though; when will the slippers be available on the merch store? Seriously though, hope you're doing well and another very well delivered and executed tutorial.
Sir, I wanna know your tca yoke and saitek rudder sensitivity.Please let you know your sensitivity settings of joystick.I use yoke and rudder same as you.But I don't know how to adjust my sensitivities of my yoke and rudder.Also I use msfs 2020.
Great tutorial showing multiple input views and angles, just out of curiosity; why did you deployed the spoilers manually rather than arming them as usual?
Quick question, is 5 degrees a reasonable bank angle limit during the decrab or should it be lower? I'm concerned of the engines hitting the ground if I banked to much.
Nice and clear explanation of xwind landing techniques. I have more than 10.000 hours on Boeing series and I hardly been exposed to xwind more than 20 knots . I do not really recommend decrab during flare if you are not doing it frequently . If you land 40 knots crosswind once every 3 years , just try to decrease crab angle down to a comfortable point of yourself , and land crab . It is easier to apply aileron in to wind and rudder to opposite direction on the ground . Thats my point of view . What you guys think ?
Great tutorial FD2S. You know, the perfect crab 🦀 is not easy, but after seeing you do it… well, wow.. but now I think I can do it. Also really good intro.. impressive, just as much as the video…
Thank you for the tutorial. Can you please advise how often you use flaps 40 for landing ? Is it option for calm wind and short runway, or it is normal procedure to land aircraft with 40 degree flaps ?
I've been doing crosswind landings all wrong all this time! I always thought it was "aileron to the wind, rudder towards runway" from the approach down to the flare. Turns out I didn't really have to use the rudder 🤦♂️
Hello, from your experience do you find the Zibo 737-800 more realistic than the pmdg 737-800 on msfs2020? I just tried the demo of xp12 and i noticed in the flare that it just has a weight to it. If you trim the aircraft too low, you will fall like a rock during the flare even if you pull up all the way. The pmdg 737 is just so easy to float. Btw how does your sim look so good? Xp12 looks much worse than your xp11
In a year, you probably find yourself exposed to strong crosswind conditions a dozen times or so. Key thing is to know your limitations. The aircraft can be operated safely up to the limit and the option to go around is always available. FD2S
@@marius3347 yes it’s the same landing technique every time. The decrab wants to be just prior to touchdown, the height above the ground is really dependent on your rate of descent but it’s usually around 10ft, landing with a bit of crab still is not an issue. 👍🏻 FD2S
Excellent tutorial - though it does look a bit hairy! Wish I'd seen it about an hour beforehand though.... 22kt crosswind at KSHN just outside Seattle in a C172.... I vaguely remembered something something rudder something... all clear now! 😅
@@fly2golf985 Oh, quite different, I'm sure - I just found it curious that right before watching the tutorial I did my first (accidental) crosswind landing - I'd set the weather to actual conditions, and forgot to change it back! I shall try more though....
Hi captain, I have a question regarding target approach speed on these kinds of approaches. Is it recommended to fly at a higher speed or just maintain the Vref+5?
Hey, a stabilised approach goes from vref to vref+15 (max speed is vref+20)... normally in low wind conditions we fly at vref+5 (in conditions that go from 0 to 10kts headwind).. the way to increase the wind addiction is by dividing by half the headwind component. For instance landing on runway 27 and having wind from 270 at 20 kts, your headwind is 20kts.. so you divide that in half and your fly speed will be vref+10. You do this up to vref+15. In high winds conditions we tend to put the aircraft down on the asphalt instead to let it float over the runway (dangerous if you think that in the moment you close the thrust lever you're litterally just pushed by the wind) you want to have exactly the correct amount of speed to fly the approach, any excess knot will generate lift over the wing which will prevent the aircraft to sit on the wheels. So stick to that method I described you and you will be perfect 👍🏻
Hey flight deck. Question..... When you hit toga in the sim do you actually move your throttle? If so why as the sim does it for you. And ofc when you disengage the a/p and a/t wouldn't your thrust be still far forward as you manually did it when you pressed toga? Sorry if I don't make sense lol
Hi Mark! Perfect sense 🙂 With the A/T disconnected after pushing TO/GA you would have to manually set thrust, you could if you had the spare capacity reengage the A/T but it's not in our SOP's and remember, the A/T FMA will not annunciate GA (One push of TO/GA) or N1 (2nd push of TO/GA) if the A/T is off. With the A/T engaged one push of TO/GA would give you reduced go around thrust which is basically an N1 thrust setting which will give you between 1000 to 2000fpm rate of climb. The 2nd push of TO/GA will give you full go-around thrust and the A/T will command the N1 G/A Bugs. With the A/T disengaged a thrust setting slightly less than full G/A N1 will suffice, this setting will vary depending on the aircraft weight, typically something between 85%-90% N1 works fine. If in doubt set full G/A thrust (the green bug). Hope this helps! FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim wow thanks for the reply. But I'm sorry I didn't mention I was referring to the thrust master throttle. I see you set it to 40 then hit toga on the SIM but still you push your throttle (thrustmaster) all the way forward. So at what point to you actually bring the throttle back? Because when your about to land the throttle in sim will be low power. But your thrustmaster still will be forward at toga. Sorry to be a pain
@@markjackson5333 Ah sorry, I more went into how the real aircraft works! I manually add thrust when pushing TO/GA, the Sim A/T takes over to ensure correct thrust is set. When I land I disconnect the A/T and change the thrust manually. FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim thanks again. At what point do you reduce your thrustmaster to the landing thrust before disengaging as you would have to at some point as you set your thrustmaster to full power. It wouldn't be full when you disengage so was wondering when do you bring it back. Sorry for the inconvenience
Me at work watching this video: ok, it’s not as hard as I thought, I’ll nail this on my first try tonight… Me at home in the evening: apply the wrong aileron, touch down outside the runway, engine strike, landing at 500fpm, floating,….. 20 landings later… ok it’s starting to get better, let’s try a different wind direction. Apply the wrong aileron,……
Nice slippers skipper.
Please continue doing this tutorials they help us so much😁
Thanks Ian! Get practicing those crosswind landings!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim thanks ......will do🙂
@@iany254 you will do amazing… promise :)
@@flightdeck2sim do you think x-plane has a better flight model compared to msfs, or vice versa?
yeah i was always ended up going around or mowing the grass😂🤣
Really pleased to see a tutorial - I know your streams are incredibly popular but for me it’s your excellent tutorials where I am happiest 👍👍
Oh that’s why the windward wing dips so often when I see planes coming in for crosswind landings! Interesting
Ok I'm late, however. That was an excellent tutorial and I have watched previously by all the usual suspects - your fellow rw pilot streamers and this was the best. Aside from anything else, you were the first to *explicitly* state that the rudder is not used until the de-crab. People always say the approach is crabbed but never explain how the crab is established and maintained so I was never certain that it wasn't with the rudder. Now I know :-)
Great video as always CPT. What ever you are using as Rudder Cam should be set up as Jack's bed cam for normal streams!
Once again an excellent video, thanks so much! My crosswind technique improved a lot after doing it your way, i used to decrab and flare at the same time as written in the Boeing FCTM, i guess the key to a good xwind landing in the sim is to first flare the aircraft and then decrab and keep wings level while at the same time retarding the thrust levers to idle. My next request would be to demonstrate a V1 cut in the Zibo the same way you did in the PMDG NGX a long time ago.
The key thing is to time the de-crab to ensure on touchdown the aircraft is pointing more or less down the runway. The right time to do it will vary and just needs to be judged on the day!
FD2S
This is a great video once again man!
Thanks for this video! Ive been particularly struggling with Rudder control during these landings. Extremely helpful information 👌
Glad Rudder Cam helped!
FD2S
Ace tutorial, You can't beat watching a real pilot do it 👍
Great technique, great video, really appreciated the different views and to be able to see the rudder and aileron control movements.
Thanks Chris!
FD2S
Beautifully demonstrated landing and yet another superb tutorial!!
Thank you 😊
FD2S
One of my favorite airports in XP and one of my favorite regions in RL. Native Californian here, but my sis lives in Derby. Oh by the way, great tutorial, very well explained, as always. Looking forward to putting this into practice!
Awesome Jake! The Midlands is a lovely area! Thanks for the kind words and continued support, appreciate it! :-)
Very nicely done sir. Gutted I couldn't make the members-only discord chat pre-release. One question though; when will the slippers be available on the merch store? Seriously though, hope you're doing well and another very well delivered and executed tutorial.
Hahaha cheers Stephen. These slippers are a one of a kind......
FD2S
Very different to the wing down technique I was taught for the piper! thanks for the excellent tutorial as always!
Don't want to be doing that in a commercial airliner!
FD2S
Awesome video, great video quality too... 👍🏼
Great video, the only thing I struggle with is xplanes ground effect…
Yes a little exaggerated, low wing aircraft do have a tendency to float as it does in MSFS as well!
FD2S
Sir, I wanna know your tca yoke and saitek rudder sensitivity.Please let you know your sensitivity settings of joystick.I use yoke and rudder same as you.But I don't know how to adjust my sensitivities of my yoke and rudder.Also I use msfs 2020.
Great tutorial showing multiple input views and angles, just out of curiosity; why did you deployed the spoilers manually rather than arming them as usual?
Great video - thanks for the tutorial. Love the slippers!! :-)
Haha Cheers Tony!
FD2S
Quick question, is 5 degrees a reasonable bank angle limit during the decrab or should it be lower? I'm concerned of the engines hitting the ground if I banked to much.
Key thing is to work hard and keeping wings level throughout the flare!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Right thanks for doing tutorials again mate. Will surely brush up on my crosswind landings again!
Nice and clear explanation of xwind landing techniques. I have more than 10.000 hours on Boeing series and I hardly been exposed to xwind more than 20 knots . I do not really recommend decrab during flare if you are not doing it frequently . If you land 40 knots crosswind once every 3 years , just try to decrease crab angle down to a comfortable point of yourself , and land crab . It is easier to apply aileron in to wind and rudder to opposite direction on the ground . Thats my point of view . What you guys think ?
Great tutorial FD2S. You know, the perfect crab 🦀 is not easy, but after seeing you do it… well, wow.. but now I think I can do it. Also really good intro.. impressive, just as much as the video…
awesome Landing Cap
Thank you for the tutorial. Can you please advise how often you use flaps 40 for landing ? Is it option for calm wind and short runway, or it is normal procedure to land aircraft with 40 degree flaps ?
i learned de crab. thanks!
Thanks for this video !!!! Absolutely loved it 🤩 👌💪😁
You should have the tpr rudder pedals though surely !! ? 🤓✌️
I've been doing crosswind landings all wrong all this time! I always thought it was "aileron to the wind, rudder towards runway" from the approach down to the flare. Turns out I didn't really have to use the rudder 🤦♂️
Not in a 737! Maintain the crab until the flare or land with crab!
FD2S
This is the correct way to do it in a high wing airplane.
Fantastic as ever!
Thank you BobbyFuzzy! Good luck on your next X-Wind landing!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Thanks! I'll need it! 😁
Super cool. Thanks!
Light years ahead of what MSFS has to offer in this department. Even better with XP Realistic add on. I’m sticking to XP for now.
Bullcrap
always will be msfs is an arcade game with good graphics you can’t compare
Brilliant video!
Excellent!! Thank you very much.
Thank you
I have recently completed B737Ng type rating. I am thinking of using xplane 11 b737 zibo mod to stay proficient. Is it good enough?
So how are you able to record a Xplane11 flight with sound?
could you make a video about your x plane settings?
Hello, from your experience do you find the Zibo 737-800 more realistic than the pmdg 737-800 on msfs2020? I just tried the demo of xp12 and i noticed in the flare that it just has a weight to it. If you trim the aircraft too low, you will fall like a rock during the flare even if you pull up all the way. The pmdg 737 is just so easy to float.
Btw how does your sim look so good? Xp12 looks much worse than your xp11
How often do you have to perform heavy crosswind landings in real life?
In a year, you probably find yourself exposed to strong crosswind conditions a dozen times or so. Key thing is to know your limitations. The aircraft can be operated safely up to the limit and the option to go around is always available.
FD2S
So same landing method with Check, Close and we add Decrab at around 10ft?
@@marius3347 yes it’s the same landing technique every time. The decrab wants to be just prior to touchdown, the height above the ground is really dependent on your rate of descent but it’s usually around 10ft, landing with a bit of crab still is not an issue. 👍🏻
FD2S
Excellent tutorial - though it does look a bit hairy! Wish I'd seen it about an hour beforehand though.... 22kt crosswind at KSHN just outside Seattle in a C172.... I vaguely remembered something something rudder something... all clear now! 😅
Granted landing a Cessna and a 737 is a little different in technique. In the Cessna you can do the wing low method as opposed to a crab
@@fly2golf985 Oh, quite different, I'm sure - I just found it curious that right before watching the tutorial I did my first (accidental) crosswind landing - I'd set the weather to actual conditions, and forgot to change it back! I shall try more though....
Tks captain!!
NYC landing
Would like to see you do an approach into paro airport for a bit of fun 😎 let's see how a pro does it
Paro? Completed it mate. ruclips.net/video/aBovJhtdDOQ/видео.html
FD2S
Thanks for this video !! Which weather program do you use in X Plane 11? And what do you think about Active Sky in relation to realism in X -Plane11?
Excellent video as always, thank you! Just wondering why is the sideslip method unapproved when it's in Boeing's manuals?
Unapproved under his operator, I believe.
@@svendorsomething3844 His operator must have a good reason, I was just wondering what that reason was.
@@TeddyJi ah, roger. Would actually like to know that as well, if there’s a specific reason.
Pod strikes.
Hi captain, I have a question regarding target approach speed on these kinds of approaches. Is it recommended to fly at a higher speed or just maintain the Vref+5?
Hey, a stabilised approach goes from vref to vref+15 (max speed is vref+20)... normally in low wind conditions we fly at vref+5 (in conditions that go from 0 to 10kts headwind).. the way to increase the wind addiction is by dividing by half the headwind component. For instance landing on runway 27 and having wind from 270 at 20 kts, your headwind is 20kts.. so you divide that in half and your fly speed will be vref+10. You do this up to vref+15.
In high winds conditions we tend to put the aircraft down on the asphalt instead to let it float over the runway (dangerous if you think that in the moment you close the thrust lever you're litterally just pushed by the wind) you want to have exactly the correct amount of speed to fly the approach, any excess knot will generate lift over the wing which will prevent the aircraft to sit on the wheels. So stick to that method I described you and you will be perfect 👍🏻
Also, a personal advice, unless youre restricted by the landing distance available use F30 for gusty conditions
@@matteopisu2768 Appreciate it. Thanks for the advice.
Hi , what about YAW DAMPER ? do you keep it in ON position during manoeuvre or off ? thx
Absolutely. YD is on for all normal procedures.
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Thanks a lot :) i thought so 👍
Hello, nice Video again...keep doing that.
Can you try with P3D 4.5 and Prosim737 ?
Thanks Matthias
Thanks Matthias! I don't have P3D I'm afraid.
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim hmm..too bad. I want to see what a real pilot say about Prosim737...
Hey flight deck. Question..... When you hit toga in the sim do you actually move your throttle? If so why as the sim does it for you. And ofc when you disengage the a/p and a/t wouldn't your thrust be still far forward as you manually did it when you pressed toga? Sorry if I don't make sense lol
Hi Mark! Perfect sense 🙂
With the A/T disconnected after pushing TO/GA you would have to manually set thrust, you could if you had the spare capacity reengage the A/T but it's not in our SOP's and remember, the A/T FMA will not annunciate GA (One push of TO/GA) or N1 (2nd push of TO/GA) if the A/T is off.
With the A/T engaged one push of TO/GA would give you reduced go around thrust which is basically an N1 thrust setting which will give you between 1000 to 2000fpm rate of climb.
The 2nd push of TO/GA will give you full go-around thrust and the A/T will command the N1 G/A Bugs.
With the A/T disengaged a thrust setting slightly less than full G/A N1 will suffice, this setting will vary depending on the aircraft weight, typically something between 85%-90% N1 works fine. If in doubt set full G/A thrust (the green bug).
Hope this helps!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim wow thanks for the reply. But I'm sorry I didn't mention I was referring to the thrust master throttle. I see you set it to 40 then hit toga on the SIM but still you push your throttle (thrustmaster) all the way forward. So at what point to you actually bring the throttle back? Because when your about to land the throttle in sim will be low power. But your thrustmaster still will be forward at toga. Sorry to be a pain
@@markjackson5333 Ah sorry, I more went into how the real aircraft works!
I manually add thrust when pushing TO/GA, the Sim A/T takes over to ensure correct thrust is set. When I land I disconnect the A/T and change the thrust manually.
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim thanks again. At what point do you reduce your thrustmaster to the landing thrust before disengaging as you would have to at some point as you set your thrustmaster to full power. It wouldn't be full when you disengage so was wondering when do you bring it back. Sorry for the inconvenience
@@markjackson5333 just at any time really, the A/T will then immediately set the required thrust. 👍🏼
Is everybody going to ignore that it was a HARD LANDING ? Posdate: Nice tutorial by the way no Hate.
That would be one hell of a landing in real life 😂 hold on to the oh sh*t handle!
Me at work watching this video: ok, it’s not as hard as I thought, I’ll nail this on my first try tonight…
Me at home in the evening: apply the wrong aileron, touch down outside the runway, engine strike, landing at 500fpm, floating,…..
20 landings later… ok it’s starting to get better, let’s try a different wind direction. Apply the wrong aileron,……
Key thing to remember C P is practice makes perfect, you'll get there!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim And your video really helped! Getting a lot better!