BHVR keeps creating useless add-ons

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • This video breaks down the newly buffed Billy add-ons and explains why 4 of them in particular are almost entirely useless. We also go over some other examples of badly designed add-ons that are still in the game.
    00:00 New Hillbilly add-ons
    02:10 Heat add-ons are useless
    03:50 Nemesis' Licker Tongue
    05:17 Executioner's Recovery add-ons
    06:27 Oni's Penalty add-ons
    07:59 Wesker's Herb
    09:15 Wesker's Loose Crank
    10:24 Knight's Tabbard
    12:43 Spirit's Cherry Blossom
    13:34 Conclusion
    Previous discussion about BHVR's add-on design: • I'm losing faith in BH...
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  • @boutsbyblanks
    @boutsbyblanks 6 месяцев назад +3813

    I love how Otz's attitude in these videos has shifted from "Hey BHVR, this is a bit weird, can we maybe have a look at this please?" to "Hey guys, BHVR did this weird shit and idk why. Just be aware cos it'll be there maybe forever"

    • @sickfuckingshit
      @sickfuckingshit 6 месяцев назад +197

      It's not like they really listen

    • @mateusgsc243
      @mateusgsc243 6 месяцев назад +304

      He just lost a ton of hope the last AMA the devs did on Reddit.
      Now, he may point at those issues like before, but he's not placing any expectations and hope for the devs to fix them anytime soon.

    • @browut644
      @browut644 6 месяцев назад +175

      @@mateusgsc243it’s really unfortunate to see someone who had such passion for this game lose it even if just bit, because devs decided it’d be better to focus on the microtransactions than the health of the game

    • @christianl3314
      @christianl3314 6 месяцев назад +61

      BHVR just don't fucking care. they make tons of money off of us, until that changes the game will be stale and weird.

    • @njrk97
      @njrk97 6 месяцев назад +66

      Lesser game studios might suspect they fucked up when one of the most positive faces of their game can be seen in real time becoming progressively disenfranchised with it. IDK Behaviour really seems to be making decisions under the assumption that DBD didn't just luck itself into the genres top spot due to all its genuine competition tripping onto their own knives at every step of its existence. Its PUBG all over again, except all the 'Fornites' that could take it out shot themselves in the foot long before they could start the fight.

  • @roirraWremaG
    @roirraWremaG 6 месяцев назад +1986

    Dead by daylight definitely needs an "operation health" patch

    • @bluemyst42
      @bluemyst42 6 месяцев назад +183

      Yeah, they really need to just go through all of the addons and ask themselves "what are we trying to do with this addon?" I wonder if some of them are there because they just couldnt think of another addon effect to make.

    • @robotsidekick
      @robotsidekick 6 месяцев назад +200

      Alternatively.... My Feng Min needs a new skin

    • @winmau.88
      @winmau.88 6 месяцев назад +5

      Real

    • @Jebu911
      @Jebu911 6 месяцев назад +36

      I think the problem is the average casual plays on weekend dbd player doenst care and just wants new skins and killers. But i do wish the one guy in the company that works on the bugs half of his monday shift at least checks these videos out to find stuff to fix.

    • @topgoose4818
      @topgoose4818 6 месяцев назад +37

      Speaking of which, siege needs an "Operation Health 2" lol

  • @Tatariu
    @Tatariu 6 месяцев назад +820

    They completely ignored the feedback on the PTB about the add-ons. They did the exact same thing with Trickster.

    • @sangamefan7084
      @sangamefan7084 6 месяцев назад +60

      Dont forget sadako having one of her few useful addon reworked🥰

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +274

      I mean to be fair, by the time a PTB happens they're probably already almost done with the patch. Many times the feedback from the PTB has to be added in bugfixes after release. That's how crazy the schedule of this game is.

    • @bye1551
      @bye1551 6 месяцев назад +32

      ​@@notOtzdarva yeah it sucks, but at the same time the PTB is explicitly for feedback. It's kinda fair to expect said feedback to be implemented, especially when it's about glaring oversights. If it was called "Preview of The Newest Patch" it'd be different because there's no expectation that we're being listened to, we just get to have a look before the changes/killer goes live. I understand the schedule of the game probably just doesn't allow for it, but I just wish they'd be clearer about that instead of raising our expectations and giving the illusion of interaction.

    • @__-be1gk
      @__-be1gk 6 месяцев назад +6

      Behavior ignoring feedback????????????????????????? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????????????????????????

    • @WutTheDeuceGaming
      @WutTheDeuceGaming 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@notOtzdarva this is what we call "MISMANAGEMENT"

  • @daskanguru3515
    @daskanguru3515 6 месяцев назад +528

    It baffles me that BHVR created the Discarded Airfilter and Idler Screw within the same breath that brought back Thompson's Mix. I would be beyond surprised if they didn't nerf or outright remove the cooldown add-ons, but I can see them leaving the useless ones untouched in typical dev fashion.
    Then again, there is not much room for complaints on my part really, Billy feels as great as never before and if engravings, lopro and steering add-ons stay unchanged, I can die happily.

    • @pocketdust2450
      @pocketdust2450 6 месяцев назад +1

      The cooldown add-ons no longer work in Overdrive, they got shadow nerfed.

    • @gachispy
      @gachispy 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@pocketdust2450 if you're referring to the description text, it's a bug. The actual effect is unchanged, you still benefit from lesser cooldown in overdrive

    • @renarenacat
      @renarenacat 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@pocketdust2450 overdrive already has less coolddown.

  • @lukekowalski
    @lukekowalski 6 месяцев назад +587

    Otz been hittin the meanest smolders in these thumbnails lately

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +263

      I have no idea what that means and I'm afraid to ask.

    • @LegacizedApe
      @LegacizedApe 6 месяцев назад +93

      ​@@notOtzdarvabasically just means youre looksmaxxing

    • @impatienstheshmuck5348
      @impatienstheshmuck5348 6 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@notOtzdarva It's a pursed-lips expression associated with 'trying to look hot'.

    • @gimpscam9976
      @gimpscam9976 6 месяцев назад +27

      @@notOtzdarvaif you’ve seen the movie Zoolander. It’s basically that expression.

    • @lukekowalski
      @lukekowalski 6 месяцев назад +32

      @@notOtzdarva it means you one handsome ass man love ya brother

  • @tezer2d
    @tezer2d 6 месяцев назад +185

    The spirit add-on being accidentally buffed by making the range smaller is the same problem we had with the old _Whispers_ perk.
    Whispers used to have a small range as a Tier 1 perk and this range was biggest on Tier 3 Whispers. But ofc when you look for survivors, having a small area to search is much more useful. Whispers has since been fixed, now tier 3 has the smallest, most accurate range. I'm baffled how they made the same mistake again with Spirit

  • @DehMonke
    @DehMonke 6 месяцев назад +48

    I'm surprised Otz did not mention Behavior's obsession with making Brown/Yellow Addons directly buff the killer's power so significantly, that playing without said addons feels horrible, then make the Greens, Purples, and Iridescents super niche or have some sort of wacky affect that ultimately leads to them being useless. Prime examples being the previously mentioned Knight (Map of the Realm), Ghostface (Philly), Dredge (Haddie's Calander), Demogorgon (Rat Liver), Twins (Toy Sword), Legion (Mischieve List) and now even Trickster to a large extent (Momento Blades).
    I trully despise this logic they have...

    • @jackmatutum7747
      @jackmatutum7747 6 месяцев назад

      I'd replace Rat Liver with Black Heart but I get your point.

    • @goaway5297
      @goaway5297 4 месяца назад +2

      The Unknown's Blurry Photo is another example. Half of the things you've mentioned honestly should be worked into basekit.

    • @lilyflower5895
      @lilyflower5895 2 месяца назад

      @@jackmatutum7747 Rat Liver was the OG best addon for Demo.

  • @user-tn2ug3kw9e
    @user-tn2ug3kw9e 6 месяцев назад +50

    They have the same issue when it comes to designing new perks as well. The utility of older perks gets replicated or completely eclipsed by a newer perk, which either results in useless filler perks, or it results in older perks getting reworked. Then those reworks seem rushed and not thought out well, as we saw with the buckle up rework creating that insane tandem with FTP.

    • @Keygentlemen
      @Keygentlemen 4 месяца назад

      What content bloat does to a mf

  • @apacheman3131
    @apacheman3131 6 месяцев назад +783

    Hello Otz, this is friends.

    • @arnaudduchamps90
      @arnaudduchamps90 6 месяцев назад +17

      Hello friends this aint otz

    • @cannonhead3204
      @cannonhead3204 6 месяцев назад +13

      Hello otz, this is skull merchant

    • @4Rys454
      @4Rys454 6 месяцев назад +11

      Hello this, Otz friends is

    • @ultra3163
      @ultra3163 6 месяцев назад +2

      he spitting ⁉️

    • @thecultist2921
      @thecultist2921 6 месяцев назад +8

      Friends Otz, this is hello.

  • @koalamanda8299
    @koalamanda8299 6 месяцев назад +148

    I love your commitment to debunking add-ons that sound fancy or useful at first glance but turn out to be useless or outright detrimental, and highlighting add-ons that have a different or additional effect to what they say (such as the range/duration Spirit and Nurse ones before they got nerfed).

  • @NotJakeSlay
    @NotJakeSlay 6 месяцев назад +188

    This is a personal example of addon design for the Deathslinger that I find crazy. He has two addons that inflict mangled which are the rusted spike (yellow) and the honey locust thorn (green). The spike inflicts mangled when you spear a survivor with your power. After hitting a survivor (assuming no stbfl stacks) you will go through a 2.74s cooldown animation before you can reload while the green requires the survivor to break free from your speargun which will cause you to have a 3s stun penalty. So we have two addons that cause the same status affect where the yellow is better than the green for the same thing. Additionally it is impossible to down a survivor unless you can reel them in for a m1. If you have the rusted spike you are guaranteed to do this while if you have the green you are putting yourself at a disadvantageous position (if you down have the chewing tobacco/ bayshores cigar)
    Thank you for the video Otz!

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust 6 месяцев назад +3

      I use the long one when i just wanna hit n run with him & need to multitask. I use the melee one when I chase cause it keeps them from being safe when i sneak about with hysteria

    • @w1llrg
      @w1llrg 6 месяцев назад +9

      and the prison chain addon that adds a whopping 10 charges to the tension which, in the only scenario where it's applicable, adds barely 0.3s of chain

    • @asteridshydrangea-jt2hf
      @asteridshydrangea-jt2hf 6 месяцев назад +2

      TBH (and I could be very wrong) my tinhat cynical guess is that the add-ons had other effects somewhere in the development process, it was nixed during further testing because it was broken or interacted badly with others and someone said ‘chop chop take that off and we’re not allocating manpower hours to do something else because it’s not a priority!’ (Because god forbid the new rift/dlc not be pumped out on a production line.) But that might be me being overly harsh and suspicious on certain aspects of management or executive handling.
      Again maybe that’s overly suspicious, but I never forget when Elder Scrolls Online had a new region and a new combat class for the first time in ages and Zenimax yanked a ton of the team to work on a cash flow sports game, leaving the dedicated combat balance team for both PvP and PvE with a brand new class as ONE GUY. I’m sure you don’t need to hear how wildly broken many aspects of the new region was. So nothing sounds too ridiculous to be AT ALL possible to me anymore 😅

    • @k0mpyt3r72
      @k0mpyt3r72 5 месяцев назад +3

      Another for Deathslinger is the Spit Polish Rag + Oil Can (0.25/0.5s faster recovery after a missed shot) being worse than the Ammo Belt + Warden's Keys (0.25/0.5s faster reload).
      If you miss a shot and then immediately reload, the missed shot saves 1.35 metres of catching up, while the reload saves 1.02m. The difference is 0.33m, or 0.075 seconds.
      You could just not reload after missing the shot, but then you'd be chasing as a tall 110% killer with no power. Usually not ideal. And if you are close enough to benefit from the missed shot, you shouldn't have missed the shot.
      If you land your shot (which you should), the first set of addons does absolutely nothing, while the second still helps you catch up.
      The reload speed just helps in both situations, and even in the right situation for the missed cooldown addons, it's barely a difference anyway.
      edit: just realised the wardens keys are 0.35, not 0.5, so the difference is a bit more, but they're still just better anyway.

    • @theyankeecaptain6349
      @theyankeecaptain6349 5 месяцев назад

      Another forgotten Slinger add on is the hellshire iron. The undetectable that it gives you is worthless. At least one person definitely knows where you are, and the other survivors will probably be able to have a pretty good idea where you are as well. Also by the time you have reloaded and might be able to take another shot. The people that in theory be you would be sneaking up on will almost certainly know that you are there already. Honestly one of the most ridiculous yellow add-ons I've ever seen... oh wait

  • @UnsoughtLyric
    @UnsoughtLyric 6 месяцев назад +58

    The tabbard is interesting because it supports the playstyle that they 100% intended the knight to have. Using the guards to...well...guard an area

    • @Daddix0
      @Daddix0 6 месяцев назад +28

      I don’t think they understood what kind of killer they were making, like at all. That’s why you groan when you see Jailer queued up lol, cause the whole patrol mechanic is horribly time inefficient and oftentimes a downside.

    • @feris3410
      @feris3410 5 месяцев назад +13

      What makes it even more interesting is that the playstyle they intend the knight to have is one they're actively working to remove from the game. Ok, you want players to use guards to guard locations. Where do you think they're going to do that BHVR? They're going to guard gens. Do you think they'll want to only patrol 1 gen at a time? No? That's three genning, they want him to 3 gen while trying to remove 3 genning.

    • @31Lucario
      @31Lucario 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@feris3410 What really annoys me about the knight is that he is the only Killer who can damage Gens with his power but no perk that requires you to damage a Gen works with this power and to top it off he even comes with one of those perks himself, wich makes me think they actually intended for this to work but either couldn`t figure it out or just forgot about it.

  • @navnatiomproduction4597
    @navnatiomproduction4597 6 месяцев назад +30

    0:42 hearing otz misspeak carburetor tuning guide sent me back I time to a place where billy didn’t know how to tune his own carburetor

  • @Adog00
    @Adog00 6 месяцев назад +139

    We are not surprised

  • @betheguy_posts
    @betheguy_posts 6 месяцев назад +22

    BHVR: "We hear you. To bring Billy in line with recent generator changes, you will now have to hold his chainsaw charge for at least 3 seconds before the cooldown timer resets. Please use the new add-ons."

    • @KatyaAbc575
      @KatyaAbc575 5 месяцев назад +8

      Pleae dont give them ideas.

  • @amountainlioncsgo
    @amountainlioncsgo 6 месяцев назад +116

    Can't fix add-ons, Feng Min needs more skins

    • @daultrak1ller
      @daultrak1ller 6 месяцев назад +1

      no she doesnt my boi knight needs more skins

    • @WutTheDeuceGaming
      @WutTheDeuceGaming 6 месяцев назад

      @@daultrak1llernaw, your boi needs to be deleted from this fucking game.

    • @flohzz6644
      @flohzz6644 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@daultrak1lleryou didn’get it

    • @Longshot441
      @Longshot441 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@flohzz6644 cause he's whiteknightin (badumtiss)

    • @Kazuath
      @Kazuath 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's 2024 and people still think the same people that design skins also balance the game.

  • @RicardoAlmeidatm
    @RicardoAlmeidatm 5 месяцев назад +13

    I had no idea Nemmie tentacle even had a hinder effect.

  • @iiShanow
    @iiShanow 6 месяцев назад +73

    This makes Sadako's new Iridescent Tape come to mind: Teleport not turning off TVs in exchange of having no condemned come from TVs AND an increase in TV cooldowns if survivors touch tapes. I still can't figure out why they made that addon, let alone as an Iridescent.

    • @jordannolan4008
      @jordannolan4008 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve been using that, best mobility in the game.

    • @foxinthebox2153
      @foxinthebox2153 6 месяцев назад +4

      That add-on is absolutely insane if you know what you are doing tho.

    • @Leonardo.ohime.i
      @Leonardo.ohime.i 6 месяцев назад +1

      or the artist's iri feather

    • @iiShanow
      @iiShanow 6 месяцев назад +13

      @@jordannolan4008 Unless survivors turn off the TVs, in which case you have the best mobility to spots nobody is at.

    • @bluemyst42
      @bluemyst42 6 месяцев назад +2

      I think most people use it to travel the map and M1 survivors. It changes the playstyle from condemn to just basically hit and hook.

  • @OnlyKoolaid
    @OnlyKoolaid 6 месяцев назад +23

    Otz simply can NOT resist trying to better the game with his backhanded information videos. XD

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +38

      At this point I'm expecting nothing, but I'm still passionate about add-ons in particular and creating tierlists and the like.

    • @FinestFantasyVI
      @FinestFantasyVI 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@notOtzdarva I agree and it gives us something to talk about or for non Billy or some killer players to learn about an addon. I personally am a Trickster main and I never touched Hillbilly until I needed the Tome challenge. Killer is not my cup of tea simple as that. But when the challenge comes I play him and of course with a lack of understanding, I choose the most useless addons to slap on. Such as the useless green and yellow ones. I figured Overcharge addons are good. But no, turns out that not that they're not good, they're useless.

  • @Orthane
    @Orthane 5 месяцев назад +5

    Skull Merchant has some funny ones too. Like removing Drone rotation entirely, a Purple addon that reveals a Survivor's aura for 6 seconds when they get Claw Trapped. Sounds okay, until you remember that oh yeah, Claw Trapped Survivors are already trackable with her power, so it serves literally 0 purpose. There's a green one that reveals aura for 4 seconds when a Claw Trap is REMOVED, which makes way more sense, still bad, but at least it makes sense.

  • @LilSoapy
    @LilSoapy 5 месяцев назад +6

    I find this same problem with Hag's add-ons that increase trap trigger range as it makes it so you won't be able to hit them with a lunge after a teleport. But she has pretty good add-ons otherwise

  • @TigerKirby215
    @TigerKirby215 6 месяцев назад +21

    I brought up Discarded Airfilter and Idler Screw on the PTB. Glad to see they weren't changed.

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +17

      They were changed! - They increased the numbers but this doesn't address the fact that they are still somewhat useless.

  • @Eli_PC137
    @Eli_PC137 6 месяцев назад +14

    Otz your back must be ACHING from carrying this game for so long. God bless, brudder.

  • @puppetandfriends1476
    @puppetandfriends1476 6 месяцев назад +26

    I'm still happy you do this kind of content as not many content creators do informative type stuff on dbd

  • @rece_fice
    @rece_fice 6 месяцев назад +11

    Is it just me or is Otz’s face getting more and more, well, how do I put this… Chad-like each video?

    • @Akixkisu
      @Akixkisu 6 месяцев назад +10

      He has been mewing for the past two years and it is paying off.

    • @Vossst
      @Vossst 5 месяцев назад

      You mean like a cat??@@Akixkisu

    • @CrimsonHeart3
      @CrimsonHeart3 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Akixkisuwait seriously or is this a joke?

    • @Akixkisu
      @Akixkisu 5 месяцев назад

      @@CrimsonHeart3 It is a joke.

  • @ninjapumpkin0127
    @ninjapumpkin0127 6 месяцев назад +9

    Licker add on buff that wouldn't be too crazy imo: unable to fast vault during the duration of your speed boost if hit by a tentacle (can still medium or slow vault). Maybe another small effect in addition.

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +8

      Oh wow, an interesting idea.

    • @haeilsey
      @haeilsey 4 месяца назад

      @@notOtzdarvaand thus bhvr will never implement it :(

  • @ladyrayrays
    @ladyrayrays 6 месяцев назад +6

    Add-ons like these and others are why I wish there was more variety in what add-ons did for most killers. I want add-ons that spice things up with new mechanics or changing playstyles. Rather than them being used to make the killer's QOL better, from faulty design choices.

    • @xIKeepaIx
      @xIKeepaIx 6 месяцев назад +3

      I wish every killer had three (kinda) different playstyles like Myers. Mirror - Normal - Tombstone
      I think Iri addons should change the playstyle drastically like with Hag becoming Chase Hag

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 5 месяцев назад

      Yea you are right but... anyways are you guys also hype for new chapter?

    • @ladyrayrays
      @ladyrayrays 5 месяцев назад

      Same, I would also like to have more meme perks that aren't big handicaps, like clowns where his bottles make confetti. @@xIKeepaIx

    • @ladyrayrays
      @ladyrayrays 5 месяцев назад

      I'm interested in the new limited time gamemode for sure. Everything else not really, when most of them are QOL changes that should have happened lojng ago. Not a big Alan Wake fan and his perks looked meh. @@muysli.y1855

  • @tombruce7261
    @tombruce7261 6 месяцев назад +1

    Otz, I've recently been watching more of your streams, and can I just say it's amazing to see you interact with your chat, thanks

  • @Wacek134
    @Wacek134 6 месяцев назад +28

    Don't make me start talking about current (reworked) soda and autograph...no one used that even once

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +22

      Oh yeah, I barely understand them but I've been told from Trickster players that they're basically useless as well. 😅

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@notOtzdarva every time you hit consecutive knife up to 8, you get a score event. the next time you use main event, your main event is extended by the score value. scores are E-D-C-B-A-S(2/3/4/5/6/8). Duration increases are 0.5-3.5 seconds. Trickster's yellow duration add-on increases main event by 3 seconds. It is superior in every way to fizz soda.

    • @Daddix0
      @Daddix0 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@notOtzdarvaThey are so worthless to the point where it feels impossible to explain because there’s about 5 layers as to why.

    • @scytheleaf
      @scytheleaf 6 месяцев назад +3

      as a P100 trickster, i have absolutely no idea what they even do. even reading the wiki, I still don't understand what score event means aside from bloodpoints (which is useless as i am typically able to max deviousness). you say not to get you started, but i'd love a video or guide explaining how stupid they are

    • @Daddix0
      @Daddix0 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@scytheleaf
      1. QUICKLY hitting multiple blades in a row builds up a combo. Hit 2 blades in a row, that's a 2x combo - then a 3x combo, 4x combo, so on.
      2. If you don't hit blades in a row fast enough, the combo will end. This is what the addons affect - they give you.. slightly more time before the window ends.
      3. The higher your combo meter, the longer your next Main Event will be, up to +3 seconds.
      The addons are ASS because you can just USE TEQUILA! Why give yourself a SLIGHTLY bigger window of time to build combo, which you never need, when you can just slap on +60% main event duration? And that's just ONE of the reasons why they're terrible. The numbers are bad, they're also outclassed by stopwatch, the combo system is not even clearly shown in the UI, etc. Fucking pathetic lmfao
      I really hope that was explained well and I'm happy to retry if it wasn't lol

  • @itscinovel
    @itscinovel 6 месяцев назад +10

    Talking about Knight:
    It's insane to me that a brown addon (MotR) outclasses just about every other in his arsenal, when there are other addons that are considerably worse.
    Like you can't play Knight without this one common addon, and they've already buffed the tabbard, so maybe you'd want to run both.

  • @kingflash6972
    @kingflash6972 6 месяцев назад +7

    And it is so depressing, as a Deathslinger Main myself, i thought the reeling speed add-ons were actually pretty ok, but they do so little and plus at default if the Deathslinger moves backwards while reeling them in they honestly get reeled in decently quick enough, but these reeling speed add-ons do so little i believe it's, the snake oil 5% which is brown, and Bayshore's gold tooth at 9% which is green, they could buff these numbers to like 10% and 15% and these with probably be ok, and im not even gonna talk about the ads movement speed add-ons, and why is there a green mangled add-on when the yellow one is way better

    • @kingflash6972
      @kingflash6972 6 месяцев назад +3

      And I have creative add-ons like why not have the projectile traverse speed similar to Huntress's flight speed add-ons, on Deathslinger it would be nice to have this

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +8

      I almost included those add-ons in the video, yes, they're super tiny and unnoticeable.

    • @LucaTheHyena
      @LucaTheHyena 6 месяцев назад +1

      Though i have to say, double move speed while ADS is actually pretty comfy feeling, if you ads on a survivor your not confident you could hit, but they're coming up on something, they're gonna wiggle side to side, and you close that gap REAL quick with these addons. and they cant just, not wiggle, because then you've got a free shot. However, i'm probably getting placebo'd REALLY hard here because i've never bothered to think about it with and without. But the reeling speed, whuff. and the issue is new players will see those and use them religiously because of how good they sound, when they do nothing

    • @Longshot441
      @Longshot441 5 месяцев назад

      never noticed them myself either then again I randomize my add-ons and persk.

    • @kingflash6972
      @kingflash6972 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@LucaTheHyenayeah but Deathslinger already moves decently quick when about 2 years around the time when Deathslinger's Ads and Terror radius were nerfed but they also buffed his movement speed and his stun recovery time lowered down to 3 seconds and not 4, and the ads movement speed add-ons are more of a comfort pick but it's not even good comfort addons cuz if remember correctly, Deathslinger moves currently at 3.9m/s and the ads movement speed add-ons are 1.5 and 3% and they do so little

  • @TheDrag0n100
    @TheDrag0n100 5 месяцев назад +3

    It’s very frustrating that it’s gotten to the point where we must all resign ourselves to the fact that the devs simply do not care and/or don’t have the time to think about the ramifications of the things they add/change in the game.
    Sad note aside, this is a fascinating video, and I love the way you break down how these bizarre add-ons work (or don’t work I guess…)

  • @Jack0f4lltrades
    @Jack0f4lltrades 5 месяцев назад +4

    Depending on Otz told to us, i think that the main Dev's problem is:
    1) They don't play their game and can't compare how and what will happen in these or that situations.
    2) They don't give a fuck. Because we all have addiction to the idea of game and there is no decent analogues. Texas massacre fucked up by their own dev's and that was sad.

  • @golemofwill4728
    @golemofwill4728 6 месяцев назад +4

    I really think a lot of killers could use a lot of the QOL add ons put into base kit. Add ons really should be for encouraging a certain build or play style like how Myers does it, but they shouldn't ever be 100% necessary or useless.

  • @edwinxxviii1283
    @edwinxxviii1283 6 месяцев назад +5

    My personal take on how to change Billy's useless addons:
    Counterweight: increase the initial turning rate by 15%. This helps beginners curve and billy experts can also gain value eg when iri engraving+overdrive. (they might need to rename it lightweight or sth)
    Cracked Primer Bulb: the initial turning rate lasts 0.15s longer since it only deals 1 health state damage
    Thermal Casing: Chainsaw produce 25% less heat but overdrive lasts 50% longer
    Discarded Air Filter: after getting stunned or blinded chainsaw charged speed increased by 15% (mother's helper 2.0)
    Ragged Engine: after hitting a chainsaw, gain undetectable for 30s (Leafy Mash 2.0)
    High-Speed Idler Screw: during overdrive, gain 15% action speed bonus + Enduring
    overall 7.5.0 is an amazing patch for hillbilly players, i enjoyed playing him alot.

  • @quadeforrestal4320
    @quadeforrestal4320 5 месяцев назад +5

    I feel like the Dev aren’t allowed to play the game.

  • @Trident_Gaming03
    @Trident_Gaming03 5 месяцев назад +3

    For things like buffing the Knight addon and nerfing the Spirit addon, I don't think the excuse of "the devs don't have time" can be used, since it only takes 10 seconds to read the effect of the addon and then come to the conclusion that changing the value in a certain will actually make the addon stronger/weaker
    This isn't a time or communication issue, this is a competency issue

  • @BillyByeah
    @BillyByeah 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the video. Imagine the Knight being able to recall guards with Ctrl. He doesn't use Ctrl anywhere so it can happen easily.

  • @josemoyano1543
    @josemoyano1543 5 месяцев назад +3

    These are the types of videos I like the most, because even if the devs don't listen or care about, we do
    Almost all killers have a couple of useless addons, Artist has one that helps survivors avoid the crows entirely and Skull Merchant has one to reduce the cooldown of disabled drones when u just can recall it and place another one. They are completely useless

  • @Shark_Cowboy
    @Shark_Cowboy 5 месяцев назад +3

    I know you said you don't wish to continue making videos trying to spotlight and create suggestions for fixes in the game, but even this style where you just address them in a nicely put together way is something I enjoy and hope you continue doing!

    • @callumhogan2428
      @callumhogan2428 5 месяцев назад

      Probably keep doing it more for the viewers over seeing any actual change

  • @Benji1922
    @Benji1922 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for making these types of videos Otz, I had no idea even wesker was affected by the duration nonsense with addons. I have no more hope of things like this getting fixed anytime soon, so I'll just keep this in mind when trying to make killer builds. Keep up the great content otz!

  • @nayrwumpus1276
    @nayrwumpus1276 6 месяцев назад +22

    Pyramid Heads addons need a rework the most because they are really inconsistent and hard to get value from and this explains why people only use his double range addons. Another reason is because he has been in the game for a couple of years, and since they wanted to make changes to his power in a previous PTB I don't believe it would be a licensing issue.

  • @martialart3277
    @martialart3277 6 месяцев назад +4

    Hey otz I'm a trickster main and my main build is hex ruin,deadlock, corrupt intervention, and scourge hook: pain resonance. I'm thinking about changing deadlock and putting bamboozle because the killer shack is a big weakness for trickster but deadlock also helps me slow down the game and really compliments hex ruin. Do you think i should switch deadlock for bamboozle?. (This is also a question for the chat if anyone has an opinion i wanna hear it!)

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah that might work just fine! - Deadlock stops Ruin and Pain Res from working sometimes, so it is a bit awkward despite being a great perk.

  • @MrEzioCraft360
    @MrEzioCraft360 5 месяцев назад +4

    thank you for this videos otz. even if you have lost hope in behaviour listening to your/our suggestions to make the game better, it's always nice you inform us about what to be warry about in the game, in case they never change it haha

  • @Benjo_
    @Benjo_ 6 месяцев назад +6

    Lopro my beloved

    • @noitora99
      @noitora99 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hello @Benjo_ how you doing? Big fan ❤

  • @Isaac_646
    @Isaac_646 5 месяцев назад +2

    You know whats got me worried?
    Deathslinger recently got his turn in the spotlight of lore for the new tome and rift. And it makes me get this feeling theyre gonna ruin his add ons like Wardens keys or Modified ammo belt to make the reload speed longer. Or changing his ultra rare add ons to something way mote unsatisfying. Maybe changing Iridecent coin to something like granting a speed boost after or while reeling a survivor.

  • @44637g
    @44637g 6 месяцев назад +6

    Devs are too busy creating Feng cosmetics...

  • @matthewburns3928
    @matthewburns3928 5 месяцев назад +1

    The cherry blossom “nerf” is still so weird for me. Whispers shows they understand a shorter range can make detection perks/add ons better. Since when you level up that perk it goes from like 36m to 18m (sorry if those numbers aren’t accurate). Yet even then they made that change on making a more accurate detection add on

  • @masterweapon334
    @masterweapon334 6 месяцев назад +2

    I had no idea the crank was worse than the egg. I’ll have to tell all my Wesker buddies so we can wesk better.

  • @MoistZonix
    @MoistZonix 5 месяцев назад

    It might be worth noting that Blight's Slam Duration addons also have the same effect that Wesker's Egg does. During the slam, you're also able to indirectly move faster.

  • @DeadFTP
    @DeadFTP 6 месяцев назад +8

    Love you, Otz! Can't wait to receive that cute otter plushie❤

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +5

      Thanks for getting one!!

    • @DeadFTP
      @DeadFTP 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@notOtzdarva of course! We love to support you!

  • @bonehead7711
    @bonehead7711 6 месяцев назад +8

    Dbd really needs it's own Operation Health just like Siege did or even just toss another month between chapters so everything can be more fleshed out and clean

  • @Magmatic_Agnaktor
    @Magmatic_Agnaktor 5 месяцев назад

    Been loving the variety content Otz!

  • @thecotex7068
    @thecotex7068 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love ya Otz, we appreciate you!

  • @NoOtherKind
    @NoOtherKind 6 месяцев назад +3

    great vid as always otz! I think they knight addon could be okay with the new gen regression changes. Kick it and make a guard camp it while it regresses. that being said it still would be much better to have the power in chase but food for the thought! Also i know the devs would never add voice comms but what would you think about a walkie talkie as an item allowing comms or something along that line?

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +5

      I'd love anything new for Survivors at this point.

  • @luke3752
    @luke3752 6 месяцев назад +1

    great video! now for a deep dive into Doctor's add ons

  • @the_pear69
    @the_pear69 6 месяцев назад +2

    I could listen to you talking about broken addons for hours, it is so funny and entertaining yet sad at the same time.

  • @jackmatutum7747
    @jackmatutum7747 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hey Otz, can you address the bugs on the most recent update? One that I personally encountered is Legion's Frenzy Killer Instinct not detecting survivors.

    • @jackmatutum7747
      @jackmatutum7747 6 месяцев назад

      Within 8m of me were 3 survivors, I hit 1 with Frenzy but the Vittorio wasnt giving off K.I. while Ada does. On a another instance in the same match, it was Ada that was not detected.

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +1

      Huh, weird!

  • @ItsNiteNite
    @ItsNiteNite 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the video. I do have to disagree about the knight though. I use that add on all the time. Hold gens, exit gates, etc.

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +5

      You're a braver man than I am, it feels so bad to have your power gone for so long.

  • @TheAlfredMonty
    @TheAlfredMonty 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Otz, this is Alfred. Could you make a vid showing how the new gen changes may impact certain perks.
    For example, Eruption will eat through the allowed 8 regression events because you have to kick a gen to start the perk up (one regression event) and down a survivor (second regression event).
    So you'll really only have four gen kicks if you're not careful running the perk. Four gen kicks doesn't seem like a lot to me especially in high traffic areas like the central gens in RPD.

  • @klichka_mafioznik4117
    @klichka_mafioznik4117 6 месяцев назад +5

    I still think the worst thing about addons is that there are addons with the same action, but different numbers

    • @notOtzdarva
      @notOtzdarva  6 месяцев назад +6

      I think that's OK in some cases (like Wraith), but some Killers have 4 addons that do the same and they're all useless, and that's quite sad.

  • @marklehman6622
    @marklehman6622 5 месяцев назад +3

    I'm surprised you didn't bring up Honey Locust Thorn on slinger since you'll be making complete score events with your M1 far more often than breaking your chain making Rail Spike a far better choice. You could argue that you could use a build focusing on breaking your chain but it's still so garbage for a green its insulting. Also, slinger's infamous "reel in speed" addons that increase your reel in of survivors by an absurdly small amount. Poor addon's for killers honestly ruin them for me completely to the point where I straight up stop playing them...

  • @jd_falchion8651
    @jd_falchion8651 5 месяцев назад +1

    12:50 it's kinda funny to think that this addon was "nerfed" by giving it the change whispers gets while leveling it up to make it stronger

  • @xLWxPhantom
    @xLWxPhantom 6 месяцев назад

    The purple add on for wesker used to do give a bigger chunk of infection as well when you hit a survivor with the dash in any way, even if it didnt grab because of endurance.

  • @VitorSilva-jq8kh
    @VitorSilva-jq8kh 5 месяцев назад

    Hi Otz. Some time ago you said you would make a video talking about how/when to use each one of the 4 basement hooks. Will you do that? I'm really curious! Thanks!

  • @thatfishguy4991
    @thatfishguy4991 6 месяцев назад +1

    what about skull merchants add on that reduced your drone rotation rate with no upsides?

    • @Daddix0
      @Daddix0 6 месяцев назад

      it’s to support a playstyle that uses the beams as “walls” rather than rotating circles. it’s a shit playstyle, but it is interesting.

  • @DetrimenttoSociety
    @DetrimenttoSociety 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow that ending is depressing. To see a titan give up like that is sad to see, but very understandable.

  • @WaifuEndMyLaifu
    @WaifuEndMyLaifu 5 месяцев назад

    I'm gonna keep it 💯 with you otz, I just use auto-level with complete disregard to what add-ons I get... but it's nice to know which ones will just be collecting in my inventory. Thanks!

  • @srinednco
    @srinednco 5 месяцев назад +2

    Most of the perks, item addons, killer addons and offerings are straight up not worth using. Billy addon change was cool because you can mix and match loads of different playstyles, but nobody is going to bother cause they will only use the top 5, same goes for most killers and survivor items.

  • @pifopifo1000
    @pifopifo1000 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just shows that looking at raw numbers and just reduce them doesnt always work without considering other aspects. Wild that Bhvr is still doing this, despite having multiple chances to learn from their mistakes.

  • @gasmask3063
    @gasmask3063 6 месяцев назад +24

    the green cooldown add on is the only one Ive used, since being a billy main I dont have any add ons since I play him so much and spend bp on other killers, the cooldown in overdrive is so nice

  • @bagl7833
    @bagl7833 6 месяцев назад +2

    You should've gone over Deathslinger's jaw smasher addon. I'm pretty sure it increases your speed while ADS'd by like 0.1 or 0.2m faster? Completely useless

  • @hyacinth1351
    @hyacinth1351 6 месяцев назад +1

    don't forget deathslinger's reel speed add-ons and movement speed while aiming add-ons!

  • @saikyue4462
    @saikyue4462 5 месяцев назад

    With the egg a rebound would have been a great example, because you get more distance because the speed boost is longer, so you can rebound wider loops

  • @indigo...
    @indigo... 6 месяцев назад +2

    you can go to every killer and find at least one addon that barely does anything, or the effect is unhelpful therefore pointless, or straight up is detrimental

  • @TheLateMrBones
    @TheLateMrBones 6 месяцев назад +7

    There needs to be a mini chapter where instead of new killers or survivors they just focus on what needs to be changed. Like what you mentioned in this video.

  • @Ashtonyss
    @Ashtonyss 6 месяцев назад +3

    The community is actually unifying around the point that the constant march forward for new content is hurting the game, and I'm here for it. Don't get me wrong, I love me some new content, but the game really needs a balance pass more than anything. The issue is that the devs are incentivized by the market to release content on a consistent schedule and I really can't blame them for that.
    The best we can do is keep talking about it. Keep pushing for a balance pass, and maybe we'll see a few more Billy level touch ups on our aging characters.

  • @jorgevelasco-theartofgames8687
    @jorgevelasco-theartofgames8687 6 месяцев назад +7

    Why doesnt bhvr just hire this guy

    • @winmau.88
      @winmau.88 6 месяцев назад +4

      Because they’re incompetent in practically every field.

  • @dirky1185
    @dirky1185 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think the one thing both sides enjoy the most from what I understand is figuring out what the other side has (unless it's extremely strong). Most people like to pinpoint perks during a match so they can play around it. I find it sad how most addons in the game do little to no change in playstyles or power use. Most survivors don't even care to look at add ons most of the time for a lot of the killer roster because a lot of people already know what the popular ones are for most killers.

  • @SadToffee
    @SadToffee 6 месяцев назад +21

    I still think a shin guard add-on that would allow billy to vault windows while sawing would be super dope.

    • @SadToffee
      @SadToffee 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'd say if it had the same downside as lopro it could be really interesting.

    • @LemMan1001
      @LemMan1001 6 месяцев назад +2

      that would be so much fun, they should give that effect to the idler screw

    • @TheStonedHermit
      @TheStonedHermit 6 месяцев назад +5

      Why don't we make it so he can go through walls while we're at it

    • @thedutywarlord264
      @thedutywarlord264 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TheStonedHermit billy the new nurse 😂

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 5 месяцев назад

      Like this idea but not be to strong the vaulting Surv lose only 1 health like wesker rush

  • @LoneSWarrior
    @LoneSWarrior 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would not be surprised if the Pig was nerfed into 1 Jigsaw box because they thought having more jigsaw boxes would make it harder and completely forget how the pig plays at this point.

  • @ninjapumpkin0127
    @ninjapumpkin0127 6 месяцев назад +1

    One thing I will say, although egg shouldn't make you move faster, I think I would still prefer crank because the extra time if you know doing 2 bounds isn't worth is painful

  • @rileyp1506
    @rileyp1506 6 месяцев назад +5

    they removed the undetectable after a chainsaw hit 😡

  • @spamandsazon
    @spamandsazon 6 месяцев назад

    Loving Otz's villain arc. He's like an eloquent bad guy in a Bond movie. "No BHVR, I expect you to deny."

  • @burlysphinx338
    @burlysphinx338 6 месяцев назад

    Yeah a friend of mine and I were talking about something like this where the brown or green add ons are way better than the red and purple add ons and thank god you actually explained it really well because it just makes sense that devs thought that the worst add ons weren’t getting that much love that they just had to make it better

  • @demonicdipliod
    @demonicdipliod 5 месяцев назад +2

    tricksters combo extender addons dont do anything but help blood point gain if you miss alot

  • @Galliao
    @Galliao 5 месяцев назад +1

    "Sharing this with you for entertainment purposes. I wish I had something more positive to end the video on."
    Otz, the entertainment purposes is very positive.

  • @colheitasombria7612
    @colheitasombria7612 5 месяцев назад

    I love the counterweight, what I hate the most on Billy is revving the chainsaw just to turn 90 degrees and hit a wall while the survivor goes on thinking that I'm an idiot.

  • @Arekusando
    @Arekusando 4 месяца назад +1

    Things like these make me also want BHVR to add "sell" button for like 25%, 10%, 5% of original cost. Hell, even "stuff it up Entity's arse for no BP" button would do. I have lots of offerings and addons I don't ever use and looking at them piling up in my inventory gives me aneurysm. Think of it like some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder, seeing so many "see basement hooks at the beginning of the trial for 20 sec" offerings on each char that I won't waste, even if I mained Basement Bubba every day till my death - is simply irritating.

  • @KarLitoDE_TV
    @KarLitoDE_TV 6 месяцев назад +2

    BHVR now: fixing the penalty Addons? NO we're nerfing the duration addons.

  • @pngamer175
    @pngamer175 5 месяцев назад +1

    BHVR, please take this video to heart. Something urgently needs to change. Finally stop creating useless add-ons ! By the way, Great Video Otz. More stuff like this

  • @s.b.e._9692
    @s.b.e._9692 5 месяцев назад

    Hey Not Otz your "dont press button" video was super fun, it took me 3 sittings to watch it whole. I know it has nothing to do with the matter, im just boosting engagment. Good luck :)

  • @glorytoarstotzka330
    @glorytoarstotzka330 5 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder how the devs are too busy about this. I am not trying to be reductive or dismiss their effort, but I feel like if they just assigned a random dude who perhaps is a more beginner, to watch this video, or similar stuff, and kind of just chat around a bit about these things. it's kind of pretty straight forward that there is a problem and they can fix it
    for whatever reason, we think that the impact of changes scales with their effort. so if you spend 10 hours developing something you have to get more out of it than if you spend 1 hour. but reality really differs from that. make a critical add-on part of the basekit (which is likely very easy to do implementation-wise) and in perhaps 1-2 hours, you did more for that character than you could even imagine for the players who play it

  • @jkengland832
    @jkengland832 5 месяцев назад +1

    If BHVR actually made changes that are good for the game from experienced players like Otz, everything would be balanced pretty well

  • @Disastorm
    @Disastorm 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video to inform people about things in the game to just ignore and not waste time with. I actually come from old school gaming before patches existed whereby it was relatively common for there to be completely useless things in games and people just made sure to never use them. So whether or not people believe bhvr should fix these things, its important to inform everyone so they don't waste their time.

  • @gianglai7346
    @gianglai7346 5 месяцев назад

    Would be cool if the Knight add-on allows you to simply right click during the extra duration and call back the patroling guard while also setting up a new one

  • @rtristan8572
    @rtristan8572 6 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe tapping M2 generating heat is unintended and it is due to a bug.

  • @Axyierl
    @Axyierl 5 месяцев назад +1

    DBD really should just sacrifice one chapter slot for a health patch. Imagine how much better it would be it the devs actually had time to fix issues like this

  • @abysmalist4761
    @abysmalist4761 5 месяцев назад

    hey otz since you have insider info, when is jacket coming to the game?

  • @AM-bo2ns
    @AM-bo2ns 5 месяцев назад

    as i understand it the issue with the pyramidhead addon (and what used to be the issue with the spirit addons) is that anything in the game using a power that depletes (killer powers, survivor items, etc) is based on a 'charges' system; ie., a toolbox or pyramidhead sword power has [x] charges and [y] charges are consumed each second you use the toolbox to repair the generator, or the power to create lines on the ground. the # of charges is static but the recovery of charges for killer powers is always % based, ie. you recover a static 5% of your power every second, regardless of how many 'charges' you have. this creates a problem when you have an addon that increases the maximum number of charges but the % of charges recovered per second remains static. if you have 100 charges and recover 5% of those charges per second, and you have an addon that adds 10 charges without reducing that 5% recovery rate, you now suddenly recover more charges per second and also have more maximum charges. not a bug so much as a design oversight that will continue to affect pretty much any similar killer powers they add to the game until they change the charge system (unlikely) or make exceptions for every set of duration addons; there are likely other addons with weird and ineffective functionality stemming from the way these mechanics are handled.