I bought my D March 2019 it works just as fine as on the first day. To me the knobs feel ok and they get the job done. While my Grandmothers Spring reverb is failing all the time due to a much too short internal cable. The cinch cable just keeps slipping from the reverb modul. I repaired it several times but I have given up on that part of the GM. Yes the knobs feel better but the sustain slider feels just as cheap. The Moog overall build quality is better then B. but for the price I expect nothing less. The Model D sounds very good and fat for not even half the price. I own 3 Behringer synth the D the Neutron and the Deep Mind 12 and I am happy with them. The DM in particular sounds awesome. I own 2 Moog and I love them but the price you pay is for the name and the myth too.
Interesting comparison. The recording of the behringer model d sounds about 4dB louder to my ear than the grandmother. This will exaggerate the contrast in sound. Totally agree that the model d is subtly different than the grandmother.
I agree, I struggled with input levels for sure. Opening the filter on the D definitely made it louder, much more so the the Grandmother, so it was tricky to manage! 👍😎
Thank you for sharing this and making this video. I came to the same conclusion about the Minimoog filter when directly comparing it to the Matriarch at a store. The Minimoog is much brighter and buzzier in tone when the filter is fully open. Also, the larger knobs on the Minimoog allow you to make more precise adjustments for the different parameters. In comparison to the Behringer Model D or even the Studio Electronics SE-1x I used to have, the Minimoog Model D just feels like a complete instrument. The keys, knobs, and switches feel wonderful on the Minimoog, and it sounds absolutely superb!!! And yes, I had a chance to play around with a Behringer Model D as well. From what remember, it sounded very good as you have just discovered.
That was a pretty fair review/comparison. I broadly agree with everything you said.The Grandmother certainly has more er....body within some of it's range/sounds, and on the whole sounds more refined. I'd say it would be cool to compare it to an actual Minimoog, but with a vintage one there are a lot of things to consider there, age of components, the fact that no two vintage synths sound exactly alike anyway. A re-released Minimoog is 5k though (AUD) so yeah, lets not go there. Anyhoo, enjoyed the vid and er, I'm much more interested in the Grandmother/Matriarch than I used to be now. All the best.
I like your honest opinion. Indeed the Moog sounds more refined has deeper growl without being too harsh and the legato seems smoother. The Moog sits nicely within its sound field but I hear a bit of panned sound there (perhaps from a stereo mike?). I would say Boog is ok for a price but not much when compared with Grandmother (which is around a $1k) It should not be called a clone but a one 'inspired' by Moog!
Very well inspired: I remember I was not able with my Voyager to obtain a credible Lucky Man square sound, while with Behringer D it's there, identical to the original Moog (Modular!) ELP recording🙂
@@Hamfantasy56 Yep, B should work on refining it more (especially the filter circuitry) in their poly d box with more range on the pots and higher quality switches. This video it just makes me now want to get a real modern Moog but model d is out of my price range
These small modules are about price and (to a lesser extent) space savings. Personally I would rather have the full size interface and make room for it, but that is not everyone and it would impact pricing. They can sell so relatively low for a number of reasons. Labor cost on the lines they and MANY electronics manufacturers use. Massive component purchases using common parts wherever possible across a sizable and growing lineup. Margins of 1/2 to 1/3 of other brands. Consider Mother 32 vs. Crave. (I have never owned or used either) For Moog labor is at least twice as much, electronics half again to twice as much, a step up in non-electronic component quality for a bit more cost, and at least $200 in margin for them and close to that for the stockist. Getting past all that to the voice/control boards the BOM on both is VERY similar. So, it is up to buyers to decide what they can/should afford and what they value.
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I bought my D March 2019 it works just as fine as on the first day. To me the knobs feel ok and they get the job done. While my Grandmothers Spring reverb is failing all the time due to a much too short internal cable. The cinch cable just keeps slipping from the reverb modul. I repaired it several times but I have given up on that part of the GM. Yes the knobs feel better but the sustain slider feels just as cheap. The Moog overall build quality is better then B. but for the price I expect nothing less. The Model D sounds very good and fat for not even half the price. I own 3 Behringer synth the D the Neutron and the Deep Mind 12 and I am happy with them. The DM in particular sounds awesome. I own 2 Moog and I love them but the price you pay is for the name and the myth too.
Interesting comparison. The recording of the behringer model d sounds about 4dB louder to my ear than the grandmother. This will exaggerate the contrast in sound. Totally agree that the model d is subtly different than the grandmother.
I agree, I struggled with input levels for sure. Opening the filter on the D definitely made it louder, much more so the the Grandmother, so it was tricky to manage! 👍😎
Thank you for sharing this and making this video. I came to the same conclusion about the Minimoog filter when directly comparing it to the Matriarch at a store. The Minimoog is much brighter and buzzier in tone when the filter is fully open. Also, the larger knobs on the Minimoog allow you to make more precise adjustments for the different parameters. In comparison to the Behringer Model D or even the Studio Electronics SE-1x I used to have, the Minimoog Model D just feels like a complete instrument. The keys, knobs, and switches feel wonderful on the Minimoog, and it sounds absolutely superb!!!
And yes, I had a chance to play around with a Behringer Model D as well. From what remember, it sounded very good as you have just discovered.
That was a pretty fair review/comparison. I broadly agree with everything you said.The Grandmother certainly has more er....body within some of it's range/sounds, and on the whole sounds more refined. I'd say it would be cool to compare it to an actual Minimoog, but with a vintage one there are a lot of things to consider there, age of components, the fact that no two vintage synths sound exactly alike anyway. A re-released Minimoog is 5k though (AUD) so yeah, lets not go there.
Anyhoo, enjoyed the vid and er, I'm much more interested in the Grandmother/Matriarch than I used to be now.
All the best.
I'll take a poly d
I like your honest opinion. Indeed the Moog sounds more refined has deeper growl without being too harsh and the legato seems smoother. The Moog sits nicely within its sound field but I hear a bit of panned sound there (perhaps from a stereo mike?). I would say Boog is ok for a price but not much when compared with Grandmother (which is around a $1k) It should not be called a clone but a one 'inspired' by Moog!
Agreed
Very well inspired: I remember I was not able with my Voyager to obtain a credible Lucky Man square sound, while with Behringer D it's there, identical to the original Moog (Modular!) ELP recording🙂
@@Hamfantasy56 Yep, B should work on refining it more (especially the filter circuitry) in their poly d box with more range on the pots and higher quality switches. This video it just makes me now want to get a real modern Moog but model d is out of my price range
@@Sonikbytes 👍👍 Your video was very interesting, greetings from Italy!!
These small modules are about price and (to a lesser extent) space savings. Personally I would rather have the full size interface and make room for it, but that is not everyone and it would impact pricing. They can sell so relatively low for a number of reasons. Labor cost on the lines they and MANY electronics manufacturers use. Massive component purchases using common parts wherever possible across a sizable and growing lineup. Margins of 1/2 to 1/3 of other brands. Consider Mother 32 vs. Crave. (I have never owned or used either) For Moog labor is at least twice as much, electronics half again to twice as much, a step up in non-electronic component quality for a bit more cost, and at least $200 in margin for them and close to that for the stockist. Getting past all that to the voice/control boards the BOM on both is VERY similar. So, it is up to buyers to decide what they can/should afford and what they value.
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Thanks for sharing, Jeffe!
Wow, if you were still down this way, I’d be happy to let you borrow the 2016 D reissue!
@@rockstarjazzcat That would be interesting to hear.
'Promo sm' 💦