I didnt go back and make videos for every exhaust I tested before I got he DNA intake but I have them all mapped out with dyno results contact me through the website and I can email you any comparisons you want to see
Very nice power, without obnoxious noise. Do you plan to tune on the GSX-8S platform with the Turn 13 Motorsports airbox? It's taken the top end up another ~4 horsepower per another tuner.
I may be misinformed, but I'm having a hard time understanding how the Arrow is significantly more expensive than the 2024 Akropovic carbon fiber exhaust. Akro is generally considered pretty top of the line. I've not shopped Arrow before - has it always been priced like this? I've been saving for the Akro but was actually pretty intrigued watching this vid until I saw the sharp price difference.
They are both great exhaust. If you are interested in the arrow and live in the usa I can come down off the arrow price a fair amount. I just can’t advertise that price on my website because of minimum advertised price rules. Hit my up on my website if your interested Vcyclenut.com
I wanted to ask. I always see in your previous videos that the gen 3 mt09 makes around 111-112ish hp stock and this 2024 one seems to make 107=108ish in all your stock comparisons. Do you truly think they have capped the topend horsepower in the gen 4 model or is this all due to dyno calibrations and inaccuracies? That concerned me because I saw in another video of yours that in 2nd gear it barely makes 100 horsepower and that would be disappointing really.
what you see is what you get, they are all the same bike on the same dyno both generations are restricted on top end and in 2nd gear, the 24 is restricted worse in 2nd gear with a pipe and a tune the gen 3 is making a little more power across the rev range the 100 hp in 2nd gear on the gen 4 is legit with the stock mapping
@@vcyclenut Thanks for the answer. I'm just asking as dyno's are not exactly the most accurate especially if not measured back to back on the factors of variables and conditions. So you think the gen 4 is more restricted than the gen3 in top end and overall rev range? Because everywhere else it seems like it isn't being talked about so I am curious.
@ yea I understand that. Hence why in videos when my testing isn’t back to back I call it out It’s only a little bit but yes what I have found others have also. The gen 4 with the smaller airbox makes a little less hp
@@vcyclenut I do follow your stuff. IIRC changing the filter didn't even gain like 0.2 hp and that alone can be attributed to variables and stuff. So could it really be the intake that's the constricting part? If it's not the intake nor the ECU what else can it be? IMO it wouldn't be the ECU because if it was a flash should make it parallel with a gen3 since you removed all restrictions no?
Well crap. This is even quieter at full throttle without the DBkiller (112dB) than the Leo Vince (113dB). Makes more power too. Might have to sell the GP3 lol.
I agree with you on the looks of that can. I think this is the systen i'd get.
Please compare dna stage 2 and stock air box with akrapovic racing , you tested akra but not tested whit dna stage 2
I didnt go back and make videos for every exhaust I tested before I got he DNA intake but I have them all mapped out with dyno results
contact me through the website and I can email you any comparisons you want to see
Any plans on testing the 2024 Termi exhaust? They are the only manufacterer still using a loop, curious to see if that effects the powercurve.
I’m currently working on the Mivv and haven’t decided what’s next. I’ll see if I can get that one without waiting a month
Pls video map and test black widow logo level with snail on 2024
i tested the black widow, the addition of the snail tube is not going to change the results
www.vcyclenut.com/2024-mt09-black-widow-testing.html
Very nice power, without obnoxious noise.
Do you plan to tune on the GSX-8S platform with the Turn 13 Motorsports airbox? It's taken the top end up another ~4 horsepower per another tuner.
I dont have my 8s anymore to do testing with , so no
@@vcyclenut Aw shucks. Okay, thanks for responding!
I may be misinformed, but I'm having a hard time understanding how the Arrow is significantly more expensive than the 2024 Akropovic carbon fiber exhaust. Akro is generally considered pretty top of the line. I've not shopped Arrow before - has it always been priced like this? I've been saving for the Akro but was actually pretty intrigued watching this vid until I saw the sharp price difference.
They are both great exhaust. If you are interested in the arrow and live in the usa I can come down off the arrow price a fair amount. I just can’t advertise that price on my website because of minimum advertised price rules.
Hit my up on my website if your interested
Vcyclenut.com
will you have 2025 mt07 flashing when those bikes are more available ?
yes, not sure when but I will
I wanted to ask. I always see in your previous videos that the gen 3 mt09 makes around 111-112ish hp stock and this 2024 one seems to make 107=108ish in all your stock comparisons.
Do you truly think they have capped the topend horsepower in the gen 4 model or is this all due to dyno calibrations and inaccuracies?
That concerned me because I saw in another video of yours that in 2nd gear it barely makes 100 horsepower and that would be disappointing really.
what you see is what you get, they are all the same bike on the same dyno
both generations are restricted on top end and in 2nd gear, the 24 is restricted worse in 2nd gear
with a pipe and a tune the gen 3 is making a little more power across the rev range
the 100 hp in 2nd gear on the gen 4 is legit with the stock mapping
@@vcyclenut Thanks for the answer.
I'm just asking as dyno's are not exactly the most accurate especially if not measured back to back on the factors of variables and conditions.
So you think the gen 4 is more restricted than the gen3 in top end and overall rev range? Because everywhere else it seems like it isn't being talked about so I am curious.
@ yea I understand that. Hence why in videos when my testing isn’t back to back I call it out
It’s only a little bit but yes what I have found others have also.
The gen 4 with the smaller airbox makes a little less hp
@@vcyclenut I do follow your stuff. IIRC changing the filter didn't even gain like 0.2 hp and that alone can be attributed to variables and stuff. So could it really be the intake that's the constricting part?
If it's not the intake nor the ECU what else can it be?
IMO it wouldn't be the ECU because if it was a flash should make it parallel with a gen3 since you removed all restrictions no?
its mostly the intake , since when all restrictions are removed and both fully tuned the gen 4 is making a little less power
Well crap. This is even quieter at full throttle without the DBkiller (112dB) than the Leo Vince (113dB). Makes more power too. Might have to sell the GP3 lol.