The CP3 to me is the perfect unicorn street motor of not too much and not too little and doesn't require you revving out pretty high like an inline 4 to have fun. Looking forward to the R9 myself after having a MT10 now, the MT10 is fun but there's times it's just too much power to enjoy and i'm kinda tired of fighting winds at high speed riding.
Always drop everything to watch any new content on the SP, Infamas. Top job again. 👌 I’ve only had mine since mid September and only have 500 miles on it, so I’m arguably still running it in. However, I like to think I’m now riding it with ‘enthusiasm, but tamed by the handbook’ !! I’m unlikely to do an exhaust & tune until at least next Spring - we’re going into winter here in the UK with snow today,😳 but my fuel consumption is a million miles different from yours. The SP is by some margin the most economical bike I’ve owned in the last 15 years. (S1000RR, R1M, CB1000R, CBR1000SP Fireblade) 60 mpg (imperial) is the WORST I’ve seen on quite precise tank to tank fill ups, while keeping it below about 6500 revs... I can only assume the tune is responsible, as I appreciate how lean they run from the factory… I’m surprised you haven’t felt the need to adjust the suspension - the front fork compression damping in particular. As standard, I think the front end is constantly following every bump in the road, rather than absorbing them. I’ve set mine to almost the complete opposite of the factory settings. Just a few ramblings I thought I’d share with you and your subscribers. Keep up the good work buddy. PS. You’ll get NO cons from me - I’m really chuffed with mine !! PPS. Why the helmet at all times ?
Thanks for the great comment! What did you change on your forks particularly, if you remember? I'll try it and see how I go! I keep the helmet on for privacy really, too much bike theft etc these days
@@INFAMAS I respect your desire for privacy good buddy👍 I’ve only found the need to adjust the FRONT suspension.. the Ohlins rear shock is set up pretty well from the factory in my humble opinion, for an average weight rider. (70-80kgs) At the base of each fork leg there are two adjusters - a gold hex head and ‘within’ it, a silver 4mm Allen bolt. The latter adjusts the low speed compression damping - in other words, for normal road undulations rather than abrupt / severe bumps. If you turn that 4mm Allen bolt clockwise on each leg, you’ll feel it click as you turn it. It’s likely to take 8 clicks until it reaches a stop. That stop is the full hard setting. In other words, the factory setting is around 8 clicks out from full hard. However, it has a range of adjustment of around 23 or 24 clicks to play with. From within the first 20 miles of owning mine, I’ve run that compression damping at 18 clicks out from full hard…. I’m confident that once you’ve tried that sort of setting, you won’t go back. The improvement in ride comfort with no loss of handling precision is most noticeable in my opinion. I’ll be interested in your feedback if you try it.. 👍
Had my GEN 4 SP since 1 September done 2700 miles always got 55 miles to gallon just put a red power scorpion exhaust on so I'll wait and see the difference similar to yours but not as loud but the tune wll definitely drink more fuel. Also just got the Yamaha comfort seat looks great and definitely more comfortable would recommend and just buy the rider seat it's cheaper.
re fuel: I have the "23 sp. It has been flashed by kevmod but still has standard pipe. I'm 80kg without gear. I recently had a week in Queenstown doing a 200km hilly, tight twisty circuit hard riding. Every day it was 20km / litre. The tune I have is with a performance pipe so yet to test that.
When speaking about bad fuel economy, I can't help but think about the 2014 Yamaha VMax 1700 i once owned. Granted, it has a massive powerplant, but that bike drank fuel like no other...I was lucky to get 90 - 100 miles out of a tank!
Hello Infamas. Cool bike. Some people was complaining about vibration in second generation, numbed hand after 30 min. How about this new generation? How are your hands after longer ride? Probably is smooth, but I didn't ride Mt09 , you can say better
Like the 4th gen MT-09 SP had it for 2 months, but i am deciding to change to the R9. Will wait until the bike show on Saturday. Once i have had a seat on the R9, i will then decide.
@@tobiasduring4691 incorrect. I tried both mate. Bars have dropped abit on the new 24 and the pegs sit up higher..... of course you can rectify that if you want to but I love the cyclops.
I'm not a beginner, last road bike I had was a 2013ish FJR 1300; but I've not ridden for the last few years due to medical issues. I enjoy longer rides, so mpg is important to me. What did you say it was before the upgraded pipe & tune? 200? Is that 200 miles per tank?
Biggest con for me is forsure the gas mileage. I have the same bike no tune no after market exhaust. And every time I go for a proper ride I'm filling up at least twice in that day alone. If I only commute I'm still gonna have to Gas up every third day 😅. I didn't get this for the mpgs tho. That's what my little toyota is for 😂
I have a problem with the motorbike, I have an android phone and I don't receive notifications when I have the motorbike connected to the app, does the same happen to anyone else? I tried connecting an iPhone and I received notifications normally
You've clearly never owned a Buggati... Aprox 11mpg combined for a Veyron and 7mpg urban... 😮 I get anywhere between 35-50mpg on my 23 MT09 SP... mood dependent... not outstanding but not outrageously bad either IMO.
I think it's annoying how this bike at least for me requires instant money put on it the second you take it out of the dealership. The seat is just awful, one of the worst seats I've ever sat on. I have a CBR1000RR and the seat is way more comfortable, like a lot more, it's wider, it has more cushioning and allows you to ride for a long time. The Mt09 is supposed to be a comfortable every day bike that can be taken to the twisty roads but the terrible seat makes it a terrible daily rider and a bad bike for long rides. I'd rather ride my cbr to work and on long trips just because of that. Also this is completely personal but the CP3 engine is quite meh for me, I don't like the sound and the "usable power" that people talk about all the time is just for people who haven't tried a 1000cc. My bike at 5000-6000rpm which doesn't take long at all to reach is already more power than I need for the road. The excuse that there's no torque down low and that all the power is at the top is just not true.
I have rode plenty of 1000s, R1Ms, ZX10Rs, MT-10s, but this bike just feels funner in the street. You aren't going well over the speed limit when you reach the power. You can use it more in the street without breaking all the laws. As for the seat, it's way better than the Gen 2 MT-09 seat, I think it's pretty good and don't intend to change it unless I go on a longer ride.
Ha there is no comfort. Not so much the seat but your grilled in the wind. It's a street hooligan bike. Had xsr got rid of it. Same engine. Hope that tune fixed the 2nd gear issue. Flat in terms of torque. Fuel economy... 5 lt to 100?
Definitely fixes the 2nd gear issue. As for comfort the wind definitely isn't an issue for me, maybe I'm just used to it. Not sure on the fuel economy yet, that'll be one of my next short videos.
Why pay for fully adjustable suspension and NOT use it? Do you drive a car in the same seat setting as your partner? Did you change the position of your mirrors? You do realise the biggest negative for this bike it’s you, the rider. Learn how to adjust the suspension and then start talking. Don’t look at seat replacement when you have the suspension waiting to be adjusted. Fuel economy after 5,000 kilometres and you have no idea? 3rd one…. Your own opinion and you’ve asked AI? Which doesn’t know what sort of rider you are? Expensive is subjective. Biggest con, is you. Go back to school and learn to do something with your life!
Bro, relax, jesus 😂 The suspension out of the box is already 1000x better than factory Yamaha suspension. I also didn't buy the SP for the suspension, but it is a big bonus, and adjusting it isn't going to make the seat foam any softer. Learn to be a kinder person bro. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
@ You said it’s too expensive. So, as it’s just a suspension upgrade and front brake callipers upgrades then why didn’t you just save your money, buy the standard one and then spend money on learning more about the art of motorcycling…. So you become a better rider and better individual as you will soon learn how much you really don’t know. See, some kind words coming from someone who’s been riding longer than your time on the planet. I always want new people to motorbikes to become better and ultimately safer. As I was young and uneducated myself regarding two wheels and didn’t know it at the time. My apologies if I’ve upset you bro. To improve rider comfort try reducing the compression and rebound settings by 2 clicks and this will also make for a more comfortable ride without needing to swap seats. You only needs these stiffened up for aggressive riding and track duties. ☺️
Dude why don't you take off your helmet? No glares And you are So into bikes.... But you can't adjust your suspension?? There are tons of tutorials about this issue.... Bit of a let down. And almost a must if you drive on a track...
And why is that a problem? At no point has he claimed to have the knowledge on how to tune in suspension… my bet is you yourself have never actually rebuilt, re-valved or even done a simple rebuild on a suspension component. Stop your whinging and tearing down of people who are having a crack.
Cause it's great how it is straight out of the box. I'm sure it can be better, but I'm in no big rush to improve it. I haven't been to the track yet, but I'm sure I'll do some fiddling with it before going 😄
@@Dyna-mite154 Whahaha you don't know me dude.... You are assuming too much you knows too little... You read it as whining... But it was meant as positive critical. And yes he said he does not have the knowledge. You Offensive little crybaby.
@INFAMAS This guy has an awesome tutorial how to adjust it. Don't be afraid to play with it..... You will be amazed on how it rides even better. Maybe you can do a video on that journey. ruclips.net/video/wgp2sM-HMKo/видео.html
@@Justdigit2 nice.. by criticising that he openly admits he doesn’t know how to tune suspension comes off as arrogant. I’m sure you’ll be able to give him a run down on preload and rebound adjustments and what each does to a bikes characteristics.
Another awesome video Infamas! Always good to hear how you’re going with the bike!!
The CP3 to me is the perfect unicorn street motor of not too much and not too little and doesn't require you revving out pretty high like an inline 4 to have fun. Looking forward to the R9 myself after having a MT10 now, the MT10 is fun but there's times it's just too much power to enjoy and i'm kinda tired of fighting winds at high speed riding.
Amazing bike, getting one in April.love the vids and I hope you stay safe bro!
Always drop everything to watch any new content on the SP, Infamas. Top job again. 👌
I’ve only had mine since mid September and only have 500 miles on it, so I’m arguably still running it in.
However, I like to think I’m now riding it with ‘enthusiasm, but tamed by the handbook’ !!
I’m unlikely to do an exhaust & tune until at least next Spring - we’re going into winter here in the UK with snow today,😳 but my fuel consumption is a million miles different from yours.
The SP is by some margin the most economical bike I’ve owned in the last 15 years.
(S1000RR, R1M, CB1000R, CBR1000SP Fireblade)
60 mpg (imperial) is the WORST I’ve seen on quite precise tank to tank fill ups, while keeping it below about 6500 revs...
I can only assume the tune is responsible, as I appreciate how lean they run from the factory…
I’m surprised you haven’t felt the need to adjust the suspension - the front fork compression damping in particular.
As standard, I think the front end is constantly following every bump in the road, rather than absorbing them.
I’ve set mine to almost the complete opposite of the factory settings.
Just a few ramblings I thought I’d share with you and your subscribers.
Keep up the good work buddy.
PS. You’ll get NO cons from me - I’m really chuffed with mine !!
PPS. Why the helmet at all times ?
Thanks for the great comment!
What did you change on your forks particularly, if you remember? I'll try it and see how I go!
I keep the helmet on for privacy really, too much bike theft etc these days
@@INFAMAS I respect your desire for privacy good buddy👍
I’ve only found the need to adjust the FRONT suspension.. the Ohlins rear shock is set up pretty well from the factory in my humble opinion, for an average weight rider. (70-80kgs)
At the base of each fork leg there are two adjusters - a gold hex head and ‘within’ it, a silver 4mm Allen bolt.
The latter adjusts the low speed compression damping - in other words, for normal road undulations rather than abrupt / severe bumps.
If you turn that 4mm Allen bolt clockwise on each leg, you’ll feel it click as you turn it.
It’s likely to take 8 clicks until it reaches a stop. That stop is the full hard setting.
In other words, the factory setting is around 8 clicks out from full hard.
However, it has a range of adjustment of around 23 or 24 clicks to play with.
From within the first 20 miles of owning mine, I’ve run that compression damping at 18 clicks out from full hard….
I’m confident that once you’ve tried that sort of setting, you won’t go back.
The improvement in ride comfort with no loss of handling precision is most noticeable in my opinion.
I’ll be interested in your feedback if you try it.. 👍
@@Maverick-motoabsolute legend for the breakdown! I'll give it a try before the next ride!!
I think it is the best motorcycle of 2024 and the MT-09 series, as well as the most enjoyable motorcycle in this segment.
About time he should take his fuckint helmet off and talk why sorry about glare by the sun pfft
Had my GEN 4 SP since 1 September done 2700 miles always got 55 miles to gallon just put a red power scorpion exhaust on so I'll wait and see the difference similar to yours but not as loud but the tune wll definitely drink more fuel. Also just got the Yamaha comfort seat looks great and definitely more comfortable would recommend and just buy the rider seat it's cheaper.
The rider seat does look great!
I might be tempted to buy it in the future
Love the vids! Keep it up
Thank you bro 🙏🏻
re fuel: I have the "23 sp. It has been flashed by kevmod but still has standard pipe. I'm 80kg without gear. I recently had a week in Queenstown doing a 200km hilly, tight twisty circuit hard riding. Every day it was 20km / litre. The tune I have is with a performance pipe so yet to test that.
it's perfectly normal for mpg to go down after a full exhaust and a tune, especially if you remove restrictions from the factory.
Yes, the SP3s are not economical on gas, but you gain smiles and smiles when you go riding.
I own the 23 model SP, mines tuned too, I have a sc project exhaust, it’s a blast to ride once the restriction is removed
When speaking about bad fuel economy, I can't help but think about the 2014 Yamaha VMax 1700 i once owned. Granted, it has a massive powerplant, but that bike drank fuel like no other...I was lucky to get 90 - 100 miles out of a tank!
Totally agreed with you on the 3 cons.
Hello Infamas. Cool bike. Some people was complaining about vibration in second generation, numbed hand after 30 min. How about this new generation? How are your hands after longer ride? Probably is smooth, but I didn't ride Mt09 , you can say better
Like the 4th gen MT-09 SP had it for 2 months, but i am deciding to change to the R9. Will wait until the bike show on Saturday. Once i have had a seat on the R9, i will then decide.
ive got mine with a flash DNA stage 2 and kelpi exhaust and it rips like an animal
tune will make it run a rich afr, hence the fuel economy. price u pay for a smoother throttle and power delivery.
like to see a video on windsceens for the MT-09 ( Good, better and best )... Nice video~!
One of the coolest bikes ever made imo
Nice review, most people here in the states seem to love it but personally I prefer my z900 styling more 👍
Just purchased my new 2023 mt09 sp. I am 6'2 and 116kg so I found the gen 3 both better looking and more comfortable.
Iv'e heard that the 2024 is more comfortable for big people actually
@@tobiasduring4691 incorrect. I tried both mate. Bars have dropped abit on the new 24 and the pegs sit up higher..... of course you can rectify that if you want to but I love the cyclops.
Yeah the 24 super nice but got a new 23sp for 15k. got a grin on my face all the time
Good stuff! Great bike
I'm not a beginner, last road bike I had was a 2013ish FJR 1300; but I've not ridden for the last few years due to medical issues. I enjoy longer rides, so mpg is important to me. What did you say it was before the upgraded pipe & tune? 200? Is that 200 miles per tank?
Biggest con for me is forsure the gas mileage. I have the same bike no tune no after market exhaust. And every time I go for a proper ride I'm filling up at least twice in that day alone. If I only commute I'm still gonna have to Gas up every third day 😅. I didn't get this for the mpgs tho. That's what my little toyota is for 😂
How many km can you drive when you fill up the tank to the reserve light after ECU flash?
Just looked at the exchange rate and for £11000 you get 21345 AUS Dollars so not that much difference 👍
To be fair 900cc the fuel is comparable to other's. So not really a con?.
Hi , does the tune worth the more fuel consumtion you got?
What tank pads are those? Thanks!
Does tuning the bike void warranty? I do not want to lose my warranty…
Are you considering the R9?
Sick CF fender. Where did you get it?
Aliexpress, make sure it's real CF and not fake though!
Why did you add mpg to the bad list? You obviously messed with the engine setting!
The wind on your body compared to a sports tourer?
I don't have a tourer to compare to unfortunately 😕 But the wind without a windshield honestly isn't even that bad
Nakeds suck if you ride a constant 85+mph.
I'm considering this or the R9.. I love naked bikes tho
And by me is it the mt09 sp or the new Streetfighter v2
Fuel economy wow interesting mine is factory no tune no exhaust and Im getting almost 300km out of mine
Bro, get the suspension set up for u. If u havent done it yet, its not ur bike😂 just look forward to it, different worlds🤩
Give me a couple days and I'll report back!
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Blend engine😩try Streetfighter V2 feels like a Mt09 with Turbo✊🔥
Its hard to compare. Different price class, different power class
I have a problem with the motorbike, I have an android phone and I don't receive notifications when I have the motorbike connected to
the app, does the same happen to anyone else? I tried connecting an iPhone and I received notifications normally
I didn't even know you could receive notifications on the bike hahah
Can confirm. This is like a Bugatti for fuel economy under normal driving conditions.
Glad I'm not the only one then 😅
After installing an exhaust and tuned it … the gas mileage is horrible lol but i love it
You've clearly never owned a Buggati... Aprox 11mpg combined for a Veyron and 7mpg urban... 😮
I get anywhere between 35-50mpg on my 23 MT09 SP... mood dependent... not outstanding but not outrageously bad either IMO.
WOW that’s expensive, they are £10500 -£11000 here in the UK
It's the same in Pounds..... These are Australian dollars.... Not US.
21k $$& ???? Holy…..in this case, God bless America
You do know he’s talking Australian dollars 🤔
@ ha….i didnt know that….i just always thought that he have some speaking trouble
$21k? God damn! lol
I think it's annoying how this bike at least for me requires instant money put on it the second you take it out of the dealership. The seat is just awful, one of the worst seats I've ever sat on. I have a CBR1000RR and the seat is way more comfortable, like a lot more, it's wider, it has more cushioning and allows you to ride for a long time. The Mt09 is supposed to be a comfortable every day bike that can be taken to the twisty roads but the terrible seat makes it a terrible daily rider and a bad bike for long rides. I'd rather ride my cbr to work and on long trips just because of that. Also this is completely personal but the CP3 engine is quite meh for me, I don't like the sound and the "usable power" that people talk about all the time is just for people who haven't tried a 1000cc. My bike at 5000-6000rpm which doesn't take long at all to reach is already more power than I need for the road. The excuse that there's no torque down low and that all the power is at the top is just not true.
I have rode plenty of 1000s, R1Ms, ZX10Rs, MT-10s, but this bike just feels funner in the street. You aren't going well over the speed limit when you reach the power. You can use it more in the street without breaking all the laws.
As for the seat, it's way better than the Gen 2 MT-09 seat, I think it's pretty good and don't intend to change it unless I go on a longer ride.
fuel economy..i mean, it's an MT09...
Ha there is no comfort. Not so much the seat but your grilled in the wind. It's a street hooligan bike. Had xsr got rid of it. Same engine. Hope that tune fixed the 2nd gear issue. Flat in terms of torque. Fuel economy... 5 lt to 100?
Definitely fixes the 2nd gear issue.
As for comfort the wind definitely isn't an issue for me, maybe I'm just used to it.
Not sure on the fuel economy yet, that'll be one of my next short videos.
Why pay for fully adjustable suspension and NOT use it? Do you drive a car in the same seat setting as your partner? Did you change the position of your mirrors? You do realise the biggest negative for this bike it’s you, the rider. Learn how to adjust the suspension and then start talking. Don’t look at seat replacement when you have the suspension waiting to be adjusted. Fuel economy after 5,000 kilometres and you have no idea? 3rd one…. Your own opinion and you’ve asked AI? Which doesn’t know what sort of rider you are? Expensive is subjective. Biggest con, is you. Go back to school and learn to do something with your life!
Bro, relax, jesus 😂
The suspension out of the box is already 1000x better than factory Yamaha suspension.
I also didn't buy the SP for the suspension, but it is a big bonus, and adjusting it isn't going to make the seat foam any softer.
Learn to be a kinder person bro. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
@ You said it’s too expensive. So, as it’s just a suspension upgrade and front brake callipers upgrades then why didn’t you just save your money, buy the standard one and then spend money on learning more about the art of motorcycling…. So you become a better rider and better individual as you will soon learn how much you really don’t know. See, some kind words coming from someone who’s been riding longer than your time on the planet. I always want new people to motorbikes to become better and ultimately safer. As I was young and uneducated myself regarding two wheels and didn’t know it at the time. My apologies if I’ve upset you bro. To improve rider comfort try reducing the compression and rebound settings by 2 clicks and this will also make for a more comfortable ride without needing to swap seats. You only needs these stiffened up for aggressive riding and track duties. ☺️
Dude why don't you take off your helmet? No glares
And you are So into bikes.... But you can't adjust your suspension?? There are tons of tutorials about this issue.... Bit of a let down. And almost a must if you drive on a track...
And why is that a problem? At no point has he claimed to have the knowledge on how to tune in suspension… my bet is you yourself have never actually rebuilt, re-valved or even done a simple rebuild on a suspension component. Stop your whinging and tearing down of people who are having a crack.
Cause it's great how it is straight out of the box. I'm sure it can be better, but I'm in no big rush to improve it.
I haven't been to the track yet, but I'm sure I'll do some fiddling with it before going 😄
@@Dyna-mite154 Whahaha you don't know me dude.... You are assuming too much you knows too little...
You read it as whining... But it was meant as positive critical.
And yes he said he does not have the knowledge. You Offensive little crybaby.
@INFAMAS This guy has an awesome tutorial how to adjust it. Don't be afraid to play with it..... You will be amazed on how it rides even better.
Maybe you can do a video on that journey.
ruclips.net/video/wgp2sM-HMKo/видео.html
@@Justdigit2 nice.. by criticising that he openly admits he doesn’t know how to tune suspension comes off as arrogant. I’m sure you’ll be able to give him a run down on preload and rebound adjustments and what each does to a bikes characteristics.