i agree with your assessment, this debate sounds terrible even conceptually. the internet dawah scene is borderline upsetting sometimes and converts like sneako shouldn't be platformed imo.
@@Islam4Europeans It's pretty controversial even among Muslims considering it'll be run by the Bektashi order. In fact, many Albanian Muslims see this as an attempt to exacerbate the Sunni-Shia divisions by their Catholic prime minister. But there are also some who argue that this could be a model for European Muslim city-states. It's definitely an interesting proposal.
@@skipper-q1s I'm being generous when I say that Bektashis have a problematic Aqidah. They are a stark contrast to the great muhaddith, the late (Athari) Imam Muhammad Nasiruddin Al-Albani, may Allah have mercy on him.
You and the brothers from your telegram group have always kind of had it out brother Daniel. I think he could be engaging anyone in a debate about anything and you would critique him.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Brother Daniel H has been one of the few brothers who got equipped me with the information and knowledge and critiques against liberalism that no one else has. One of the main reasons I came back to Islam after being slowly beat down with arguments against Islam. These other guys just talk but never get out there and put themselves out there. I don’t agree with all things Daniel does. I do think he could be a little more “ softer” with his words when not debating. But regardless me and many others have directly benefited from his debates and videos. There weren’t many people on 3-4 years ago really making arguments against Liberalism and secularism. The knowledgeable people back then were not interested in tackling these issues.
@@hz1056 exactly. Well said. I don’t agree with everything DH says or does. But he’s been a benefit to people - especially western Muslims - who encounter liberalism every day.
@@KaskadianKhan I’ve noticed that the more knowledgeable scholars don’t seem to care too mcuh about what goes on in the west and seem to think it’s not worth peoples time. But if you don’t live here in the west and see what we deal with daily and how we have been brainwashed to accept certain value, you cannot say it’s a waste of time. I’ve been able to even equip some of my actual brothers and even muslim brothers with good arguments against these ideaologies due to Brother Daniel’s videos. Not everyone has the time and frankly the intellect to actually come up with arguments. And many don’t have the intellect and time to actually watch these debates and then disseminate arguments against liberalism.
Thats stuff is between you and Daniel, i do not know him enough to make conclusions about his character. Though i can see myself that the current forces that be tend to give rise to offputting personalities at least in the public sphere. Maybe you could reach out to Keith for a debate?
Brother you really don`t like daniel with all his faults real or imagined, personally I find his arguments too confrontational and not conducive to showing the beauty of Islam and its prime goal of fostering a solid relationship with our Creator to who we are accountable, race and identity politics are incidental to most of practicing / devout muslims, their vision, focus and values are far more sublime
It's not that I don't like Daniel. I just don't think he's the right man for the job of presenting Islam to Westerners, and he's doing far more harm than good overall. This affects the whole Ummah negatively. If I didn't care I wouldn't say anything
There's a middle ground somewhere. Daniel is a good speaker that can help Muslims feel less submissive or apologetic to many of the modern Western ideologies which go against Islam... but maybe others should approach the non-Muslims. Also he shouldn't talk about aqidah (which he's been doing a lot). It's best to stick to your area of expertise.
@@skipper-q1s I’d agree it’s best to speak to your area of expertise. And that’s a great way to put it, I no longer feel like I should be on the defensive with the arguments he’s put forth and am never on the defensive like I was for 20+ years. Now their presuppositions have to be qualified.
i agree with your assessment, this debate sounds terrible even conceptually. the internet dawah scene is borderline upsetting sometimes and converts like sneako shouldn't be platformed imo.
Damn, you really are rare gem. Instead of conversing with you, Daniel blocked you? Why!? That's stupid.
Thanks bro, honestly he’s got a short fuse and I was conversing with him on Twitter when he was still there
Daniel is wrong
This is off-topic, but I'm interested in your thoughts about Albania's "Muslim Vatican" plan. Have you heard about it?
Never heard of it but sounds interesting. I'll look into it insha Allah.
@@Islam4Europeans It's pretty controversial even among Muslims considering it'll be run by the Bektashi order. In fact, many Albanian Muslims see this as an attempt to exacerbate the Sunni-Shia divisions by their Catholic prime minister. But there are also some who argue that this could be a model for European Muslim city-states. It's definitely an interesting proposal.
@@Islam4Europeans It might be a cool video idea to take a deep-dive and compare the pros and cons.
@@skipper-q1s Those skeptical Albanian Muslims are right, you should not support Bektashis
@@skipper-q1s I'm being generous when I say that Bektashis have a problematic Aqidah. They are a stark contrast to the great muhaddith, the late (Athari) Imam Muhammad Nasiruddin Al-Albani, may Allah have mercy on him.
You and the brothers from your telegram group have always kind of had it out brother Daniel.
I think he could be engaging anyone in a debate about anything and you would critique him.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Brother Daniel H has been one of the few brothers who got equipped me with the information and knowledge and critiques against liberalism that no one else has. One of the main reasons I came back to Islam after being slowly beat down with arguments against Islam.
These other guys just talk but never get out there and put themselves out there.
I don’t agree with all things Daniel does. I do think he could be a little more “ softer” with his words when not debating.
But regardless me and many others have directly benefited from his debates and videos. There weren’t many people on 3-4 years ago really making arguments against Liberalism and secularism. The knowledgeable people back then were not interested in tackling these issues.
@@hz1056 exactly. Well said.
I don’t agree with everything DH says or does. But he’s been a benefit to people - especially western Muslims - who encounter liberalism every day.
@@KaskadianKhan I’ve noticed that the more knowledgeable scholars don’t seem to care too mcuh about what goes on in the west and seem to think it’s not worth peoples time.
But if you don’t live here in the west and see what we deal with daily and how we have been brainwashed to accept certain value, you cannot say it’s a waste of time.
I’ve been able to even equip some of my actual brothers and even muslim brothers with good arguments against these ideaologies due to Brother Daniel’s videos.
Not everyone has the time and frankly the intellect to actually come up with arguments.
And many don’t have the intellect and time to actually watch these debates and then disseminate arguments against liberalism.
Thats stuff is between you and Daniel, i do not know him enough to make conclusions about his character. Though i can see myself that the current forces that be tend to give rise to offputting personalities at least in the public sphere. Maybe you could reach out to Keith for a debate?
What headset are you using?
Razer, Blackshark V2 Pro
Brother you really don`t like daniel with all his faults real or imagined, personally I find his arguments too confrontational and not conducive to showing the beauty of Islam and its prime goal of fostering a solid relationship with our Creator to who we are accountable, race and identity politics are incidental to most of practicing / devout muslims, their vision, focus and values are far more sublime
It's not that I don't like Daniel. I just don't think he's the right man for the job of presenting Islam to Westerners, and he's doing far more harm than good overall. This affects the whole Ummah negatively. If I didn't care I wouldn't say anything
There's a middle ground somewhere. Daniel is a good speaker that can help Muslims feel less submissive or apologetic to many of the modern Western ideologies which go against Islam... but maybe others should approach the non-Muslims.
Also he shouldn't talk about aqidah (which he's been doing a lot). It's best to stick to your area of expertise.
@@Islam4Europeans nobody wants your islam, the quran says Jesus is God
@@skipper-q1s I’d agree it’s best to speak to your area of expertise.
And that’s a great way to put it, I no longer feel like I should be on the defensive with the arguments he’s put forth and am never on the defensive like I was for 20+ years. Now their presuppositions have to be qualified.
Wait, he's a white muslim? Looks more like a bhai jaan to me.
He’s Iranian
I never saw him before either. He looks Pakistani. What is his name?
Daniel Haqiqatjou is Persian
@@Islam4Europeans I mean yourself. You look Pakistani. What is your good name?
@@Islam4Europeans the guy in the video is not Daniel Haqiqatjou
Wignats are intolerable.