Why the Upcoming Keith-Daniel Debate is a Train Wreck Waiting to Happen

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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  • @siegfriiied
    @siegfriiied 4 дня назад +1

    i agree with your assessment, this debate sounds terrible even conceptually. the internet dawah scene is borderline upsetting sometimes and converts like sneako shouldn't be platformed imo.

  • @PrinceKumar-n5r7t
    @PrinceKumar-n5r7t 6 дней назад +1

    Damn, you really are rare gem. Instead of conversing with you, Daniel blocked you? Why!? That's stupid.

    • @Islam4Europeans
      @Islam4Europeans  6 дней назад +1

      Thanks bro, honestly he’s got a short fuse and I was conversing with him on Twitter when he was still there

  • @Revolutionary1449
    @Revolutionary1449 3 дня назад +1

    Daniel is wrong

  • @skipper-q1s
    @skipper-q1s 9 дней назад +2

    This is off-topic, but I'm interested in your thoughts about Albania's "Muslim Vatican" plan. Have you heard about it?

    • @Islam4Europeans
      @Islam4Europeans  8 дней назад +2

      Never heard of it but sounds interesting. I'll look into it insha Allah.

    • @skipper-q1s
      @skipper-q1s 8 дней назад +3

      @@Islam4Europeans It's pretty controversial even among Muslims considering it'll be run by the Bektashi order. In fact, many Albanian Muslims see this as an attempt to exacerbate the Sunni-Shia divisions by their Catholic prime minister. But there are also some who argue that this could be a model for European Muslim city-states. It's definitely an interesting proposal.

    • @skipper-q1s
      @skipper-q1s 8 дней назад

      @@Islam4Europeans It might be a cool video idea to take a deep-dive and compare the pros and cons.

    • @user-cg4xn3ww9u
      @user-cg4xn3ww9u 7 дней назад

      @@skipper-q1s Those skeptical Albanian Muslims are right, you should not support Bektashis

    • @BurjiMamluk
      @BurjiMamluk 6 дней назад +1

      @@skipper-q1s I'm being generous when I say that Bektashis have a problematic Aqidah. They are a stark contrast to the great muhaddith, the late (Athari) Imam Muhammad Nasiruddin Al-Albani, may Allah have mercy on him.

  • @KaskadianKhan
    @KaskadianKhan 10 дней назад +5

    You and the brothers from your telegram group have always kind of had it out brother Daniel.
    I think he could be engaging anyone in a debate about anything and you would critique him.

    • @hz1056
      @hz1056 9 дней назад +1

      I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Brother Daniel H has been one of the few brothers who got equipped me with the information and knowledge and critiques against liberalism that no one else has. One of the main reasons I came back to Islam after being slowly beat down with arguments against Islam.
      These other guys just talk but never get out there and put themselves out there.
      I don’t agree with all things Daniel does. I do think he could be a little more “ softer” with his words when not debating.
      But regardless me and many others have directly benefited from his debates and videos. There weren’t many people on 3-4 years ago really making arguments against Liberalism and secularism. The knowledgeable people back then were not interested in tackling these issues.

    • @KaskadianKhan
      @KaskadianKhan 9 дней назад +2

      @@hz1056 exactly. Well said.
      I don’t agree with everything DH says or does. But he’s been a benefit to people - especially western Muslims - who encounter liberalism every day.

    • @hz1056
      @hz1056 8 дней назад

      @@KaskadianKhan I’ve noticed that the more knowledgeable scholars don’t seem to care too mcuh about what goes on in the west and seem to think it’s not worth peoples time.
      But if you don’t live here in the west and see what we deal with daily and how we have been brainwashed to accept certain value, you cannot say it’s a waste of time.
      I’ve been able to even equip some of my actual brothers and even muslim brothers with good arguments against these ideaologies due to Brother Daniel’s videos.
      Not everyone has the time and frankly the intellect to actually come up with arguments.
      And many don’t have the intellect and time to actually watch these debates and then disseminate arguments against liberalism.

  • @abonniertallepaddy7609
    @abonniertallepaddy7609 10 дней назад +1

    Thats stuff is between you and Daniel, i do not know him enough to make conclusions about his character. Though i can see myself that the current forces that be tend to give rise to offputting personalities at least in the public sphere. Maybe you could reach out to Keith for a debate?

  • @Amin_2k
    @Amin_2k 8 дней назад

    What headset are you using?

  • @zak992
    @zak992 9 дней назад +1

    Brother you really don`t like daniel with all his faults real or imagined, personally I find his arguments too confrontational and not conducive to showing the beauty of Islam and its prime goal of fostering a solid relationship with our Creator to who we are accountable, race and identity politics are incidental to most of practicing / devout muslims, their vision, focus and values are far more sublime

    • @Islam4Europeans
      @Islam4Europeans  9 дней назад +2

      It's not that I don't like Daniel. I just don't think he's the right man for the job of presenting Islam to Westerners, and he's doing far more harm than good overall. This affects the whole Ummah negatively. If I didn't care I wouldn't say anything

    • @skipper-q1s
      @skipper-q1s 9 дней назад +2

      There's a middle ground somewhere. Daniel is a good speaker that can help Muslims feel less submissive or apologetic to many of the modern Western ideologies which go against Islam... but maybe others should approach the non-Muslims.
      Also he shouldn't talk about aqidah (which he's been doing a lot). It's best to stick to your area of expertise.

    • @KifahA
      @KifahA 9 дней назад

      @@Islam4Europeans nobody wants your islam, the quran says Jesus is God

    • @hz1056
      @hz1056 8 дней назад

      @@skipper-q1s I’d agree it’s best to speak to your area of expertise.
      And that’s a great way to put it, I no longer feel like I should be on the defensive with the arguments he’s put forth and am never on the defensive like I was for 20+ years. Now their presuppositions have to be qualified.

  • @anasazmi3084
    @anasazmi3084 10 дней назад +2

    Wait, he's a white muslim? Looks more like a bhai jaan to me.

    • @wudafek8561
      @wudafek8561 10 дней назад +1

      He’s Iranian

    • @jasonatreides2542
      @jasonatreides2542 10 дней назад

      I never saw him before either. He looks Pakistani. What is his name?

    • @Islam4Europeans
      @Islam4Europeans  9 дней назад +4

      Daniel Haqiqatjou is Persian

    • @jasonatreides2542
      @jasonatreides2542 9 дней назад

      @@Islam4Europeans I mean yourself. You look Pakistani. What is your good name?

    • @yrysf777
      @yrysf777 9 дней назад

      @@Islam4Europeans the guy in the video is not Daniel Haqiqatjou

  • @umidazimi3706
    @umidazimi3706 8 дней назад

    Wignats are intolerable.