3:05 "Think about it. In most countries, people don't trust their governments. And the governments don't trust them back" This is a nice summary of why we aren't taking full advantage of technology, or anything really
People who have opened a history book understand there are good reasons not to trust their government. The government knew where all the Japanese Americans were to be forcibly moved into camps because the Japanese Americans filled out census forms
@@pvopop4938 To call digital signature solution for fundamental trust problem is quite bold statement. Band aid, sure, but no way close to permanent solution.
I'm an Australian living in Estonia. The digital ecosystem is fantastic, once you get past a few odd hurdles. Estonia really has set the standard. Oh, and visit Estonia, it's an amazing place :)
@@AB-fu6py work visa. Estonia makes it easier than many other countries to get a temporary residence permit so that companies can employ foreign talent where they require it 👍
"One time only" rule is an amazing idea, how frustrating it is to hear each time from government organizations that they need your name and all that stuff. I barely never go to any appointment without address proof document. Good talk, thank you, Anna.
Quite encouraging to see the Estonian Government fully embrace technology and improve Government services easily accessible to all, at the same time have clear data ownership principles. Quite admirable
Great talk, great system! I hope Finland will soon follow in Estonia's footsteps in this. So far, the main problem has been the technologically challenged older people, who refuse to adopt new ways out of fear of the unknown, and their younger enablers, who keep drumming for their right to remain ignorant.
I’d like to have it in my country. We’re in 2020 and I can’t really see that we use the “digital” potential. Estonia has been using it for almost 20 years. Why can’t we? The vision of getting rid of all the paperwork has completely taken me. In my opinion we waste so much time organising, filling out or even keeping any kind of documents. Of course introducing such a solution to government’s system is probably not easy and takes lot of time but I’m sure it will pay off. In my country going to any office is a nightmare and I mean it. You have to be mentally ready for standing in a queue for half day , dealing with office workers and finally after all of this finding out that you didn’t bring one document which makes you unable to get something done. Here’s the solution and I love it.
Well as she mentioned the 3 things. Marriage, getting an ID card and real estate - we still have to go through that. Your comment actually hit close. I just got my ID card renewed and had to simply sit in a crowded office space waiting for my number to go up. Like jesus, even that one time was enough. Tbh I was a little bit lazy and didn't pre-book a time so I had to go through the regular queue but yeah. One part of the "hidden government" I love that I can do anything through a center "citizen hub" site and don't have to basically take a day or two off to "do government stuff". In reality the biggest problem is that you simply have to trust your government managing this but you put trust in your system anyhow, digital or not.
ruclips.net/video/CJ1loOhZJ-Q/видео.html I watched your video and had to remark on it but the comments were turned off. I guess the groundbreaking physics you were talking about were spoken of by Gunther Pauli, of the Blue economy fame? He spoke of clean innovation in physics being replaced with destructive artificial upgrades in chemistry, all for financial gain and keeping up the protectionist status quo. But since you are aware of the truth, you are morally bound to make it known to all...love and good energy from Goa, India
Ms. Piperal, Great presentation. Your countries system sounds wonderful. Maybe the USA can get there someday. Unfortunately, it may take an uprising and revolution to get us there! Kind Regards Bill Woodall Retired IT
Love this!! Especially the once only. Well done. Big fan of distributed computing. And it is amazing how well people behave when they know there is a log of their activity.
Estonia's lessons around digital identity, 'Once only', X-Road data exchange (including use of blockchain), Data ownership, and the concepts of the data embassy and e-residency - remain highly relevant to other Governments seeking to transform the way government and society interact. While some technological aspects have since evolved - the underlying approach remains a helpful example/model.
Awesome! Now i‘d like to see A.I. Being the government itself. It‘s not perfect either but it would be preferable to a situation where narcissism fights its way to power.
Dialectical Monist you mean who programs it? People who understand that government is there for the needs of society and who are not afraid of making themselves obsolete. It would be difficult for sure. But if the result is a government that cannot be corrupted by narcissism, it‘s worth it.
Artificial intelligence is the future. I do not want to see inefficient, corrupt and unstable governments in a next 10-20 years. Human beings are painfully bad at governing, becouse of their nature. Only through technology there can be progress.
1:32 things you CAN'T do online: get ID documents, get married or divorced, real estate transactions 1:53 file taxes in 3 minutes from mobile device with pre-filled data 2:55 transformation of state role, digitalization of trust 4:00 e-Estonia design principles. Digital ID, digital signature 4:58 once-only distributed approach 6:06 X-Road data exchange protocol
My country has had the same type of digital government as Estonia has, yet this video makes it seem like it's "new" to have for instance a digital identity, when here in Norway we've had BankID(digital identification) for online voting, online banking, social services and whatnot for many years. No one distrusts this system, everyone trusts the government. Good for them, though.
I want government to be a subscription app I can download and pay for through monthly auto pay. If my government starts doing things I don't like, I don't need to write my Congressman, I just cancel my subscription and download a different app
I like how most people here are concerned about someone watching them or their information being hacked... well guess wat the government and private companies are doing with your on-paper documents when ur not watching! And by the way, when they copy them, you wont get a notification about it.
I must say the fundamental thing is still that you have to trust your governments ability to manage your data. Then again the same trust you have to give your government, digital or not. Estonia perhaps the biggest plus is that we are a "manageable" country with a small population, so if some politician or anyone gets rich quick the alarm bells go off. But practically the trust has been gained and at the end of the day the idea is very simple. Instead of going to the office and writing stuff on paper you simply file it online. Like the government will get your data one way or another. It's just more efficient. Every person saves hour/days of travel time in a year and as a population we save a percentage or two, three from the overhead cost of "the government". I kind of hate the concipracy theories. I mean if they mismanage the data then the government would mismanage any data and use it for ill , again digital or not. So far the system works and if we are constantly afraid of everything we could simply do away with government alltogether and live as hut tribes in forests. At the end we still have to "give power" to people to manage others and every system that has humans as a factor in it can fail. But putting those fears first would lead to no progress. I mean we are doing fine, we have roads, schools, gdp per capita is mostly going up, more cash in our pockets etc. It's stupid to have such big fears upfront. I mean its smart to be cautious but for gods sake, at least try the system before building a "mental wall" infront of you. This is more for US citizens who I have seen mostly being extra paranoid about their government while the main collectors are the ones all use as in facebook, google and other sorts tech companies who can track your phones through gps and they don't answer to any government or could "hop countries" . In the end well all know we live in a "broken world" that mostly has become democratic or in other words "the best semi-working system we have" to date. Putting a layer of digital infra on it is in no way the straw that would break the system.
I don't think you fully understand the issues people have with a system like this, especially one that wants to implement a centralised digital currency alongside it.. It would effectively mean full control of how we live our lives. Just look at what happened in Canada with that complete nutcase Trudeau.. Trucker's wanting the simple human right of bodily autonomy had their accounts frozen. We already know natural immunity is better then a vaxed one.. especially due to the unknown long term safety effects of those experiemental mRNA drugs. Yet we are seemingly coerced into taking them to live a "normal" life.. Corrupt government overreach linked to Corporate profits presenting a facade of virtue can take full advantage of this situation. Australia, New Zealand and Austria are other examples of this. For a digital currency/Blockchain - system to work, we need to ensure the corrupted need to profit and take advantage of a population in this situation is fully addressed. People are fully aware of the unhealthy influence multinational corporations and Central Banks have over our governments..
Sounds like a Yang 2020 Ad lol. Though seriously I herd about Estonia in the tech world and I always thought they were way ahead of every one. They were even doing multi-cryptographic decentralized ledgers way before Blockchain and Crypto came on the scene.
I'm completely absorbed in this. I had the pleasure of reading something similar, and I was completely absorbed. "The Hidden Empire: Inside the Private Worlds of Elite CEOs" by Adam Skylight
The Netherlands could learn from this. They are busy doing the same thing, sort of, but they are not on same level how she describe it. The only once principle is not used and only financials bank are implementing Blockchain.
This is a marvel. I read a book with similar content, and it was a marvel to behold. "The Hidden Empire: Inside the Private Worlds of Elite CEOs" by Adam Skylight
My other concern would be, for those who are living on the street, ir other wise homeless, how does this affect basic survival? If one doesnt have access to a device or computer, how do you prove your health history or insurance? Or vote, or collect assistance? I've had times where I didn't have a smart phone or computer. Is it a cash free culture as some other have said? Disabled or elderly people, how do they cope?
Each person has a unique personal code that consists of 11 numbers. They are easy to remember because there is a easy system to how they're made up. To prove who they are, they need the code (id card would be ideal but the code will do the trick most of the time) Also insurance? If you mean medical insurance then everyone expect unregistered unemployed have medical insurance provided by the government (that means everyone who pays social tax or for whom social tax is paid for, are covered by haigekassa) and the personal code is enough for doctors to see your medical history.
Politicians, and the human factor in general, hinder more than they help. Humans have their own agendas that are often not in line with the common good. Prejudices, sympathy for some and not for others, corruption and personal gain, retribution of personal favors, and cognitive biases are some of the factors that compromise the evaluations of human decision makers. Algorithms and AI are much more reliable and transparent, and should be used whenever possible. When the unique abilities os humans are needed, a careful structure should be put in place to counteract the negative aspects of human judgment. A lot of progress has been made in this direction in psychology and behavioral economics, and these ideas should be used when we structure the decision-making processes. Daniel Kahneman and Richard Thaler have been talking about these things.
"We have to become transparent". Yep. That's basically the only problem in the brave new world. Hope it'll go well for you, Estonia. Sure grateful that here it's different. I'd rather deal witb government offices, inefficient amd annoying though they might be. A stong digital identity? A strong digital signature? Good grief. Yeah sure, nobody could EVER hack that. It's from the GOVERNMENT, right? And if you have smart cryptographers setting it up it's crime proof, right? And you could report any misuse, right? And the government, which we know, never ever gets corrupt, especially in a DEMOCRACY, will take care of it, right? Here we call that "living in a bubble". But, heck, they already do it fo almost 2 whole decades, hey, that's historically like an eon, it has basically proven itself. Definitely export it to the whole world. Heck,everybody should become a transparent citizen. Such an easy life... And no, i'm no technophobe. Not trolling or hating. Just honestly concerned. And amazed at how naive people have become so short after a blood soaked century of totalitarianism. Hope there will be a way out again after humanity has built a digital cage for itself.
I kind of like what I am hearing about taxes being simplified and free to file. And hope the next step is not filing at all because the government already has all the data, so why they just send me an annual report?
this efficiency is admirable but should not be applied to empower the state but in the contrary to deconstruct it so to let free market give all services and abolish taxes and the inevitable human government corruption
In Italy you can avoid paying taxes at all. The more you owe to Italy the more it respects you. By not paying your taxes you gain power, what's better than that?
Please can you do the talk here in India, the fools ruling our country need some sense stuffed into their heads. In all we have 3 national paper identities till now, and there is a 4th being proposed
*Things that have actually happened in my life* Dad, trying to get his blood test results online: What do you mean I don't have permission IT'S MY BLOOD!??! Me: gets 100% on physics test, grade uploaded at 10am Text from mom 5 min later: I saw your test grade! I'm so proud of you 😊 Dad: why did this random government worker look at my birthdate? Me: walks into new doctors office Doctor: can you wait like 5 minutes, the system has crashed, i don't even know your age
Tyranny will always be more efficient than democracy. Europeans can experiment with all this crazy stuff because they know the USA will save them if a dictator takes over their "utopia".
@@dialecticalmonist3405 Do you mean the US government who via American banks have funded the European far right parties to stabilise Europe? As for proofs several of these parties ( in France and Italy) have admitted it. Russian banks have helped as well. NATO is mainly funded by US fundings but look at how it's split. US gov govern NATO (fair enough) with European fundings paying mainly for administrative and structural costs but US fundings pay mainly for buying weapons and equipment. Those ones must be Americans. Technically, the US gov uses NATO to spend American taxpayer money to buy American weapons from American companies which in return funds government campaign and offer 'presents'. So the US fundings come back to the US but the European fundings do not go back to European companies. That's why trump decided not to leave in the end 😊👍🏼
I care more about what she has to say because she is pretty. I recognize the bias, but I don't try to fight it. Rather I recognize that people have this type of bias, and realize that one of my goals should be to be more pretty (or handsome in my case).
A state can be free to approve a system that's intentionally insecure, though not on paper. For use as yet another figure in the power struggle against its people. So-o... this is by no means a silver bullet of citizen trust.
And I am working on programmed halogramic humanoids that are operated from central database system and can serve people 24/7 which speaks all the languages in the world. After im done with it the people wont need anymore any burocracies any human service any waiting lines any corruption bribery elements any human contact policies relations etc. We are entering to a new era! :) Hi from Kyrgyzstan
This isn't China. No tracking of activities/locations/behavior/financial prudence etc. Also any information request is a) limited to fields what the clerk/doctor/police needs for his work and b) is logged and visible to the citizen, who can then request a clarification regarding it. In what other country would you know that someone isn't shuffling through your data as we speak, among many duplicated and untracked forms of data recording?
Xion Eternum OMG, I misunderstood the question. I thought she was talking about people being able to access someone else's profile. Kinda embarrassing tbh
You should talk to Edward Snowden! But i apologize: You (at 8:00) changed for a while. But I'm getting more confused where you really stand! I hope not "some" but "most" think where the downsides are, lady! Yes - threatened - but not because my skills will be obsolete, rather because AI will take over with so much speed that we can't follow - and then ...
@@chocomalk Yes. It is a digital ledger of records, secured by a system of trust, involving physics and/or logic. If this digital ledger can be altered by a central authority, it destroys the entire purpose of having a digital ledger of trust in the first place. If one places their trust in a central authority, it is not necessary to have a blockchain that secures trust. A central server is far more efficient than a blockchain, but efficiency is not what blockchain technology was created for.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 A server can be hacked a blockchain has a ledger and is decentralized and cannot be altered without it being noticed, that is the difference, it is a ledger.
and what happens when an EMP or solar flare shuts down the power and fries the system? You're basically back to zero. Hey, I love the idea of no bureaucrats but paper records have value. You'd also need to regulate the internet as a public utility; maybe easy to do in a country like Estonia, but here in Canada, it would be a logistical nightmare.
Rather than working on trust, empathy and human interactions and finding ways of building bridges amongst people, in very minute ways to aide either evolved or broken character .. if broken then something that will require the physical efforts and actions that can be witnessed to show or prove character building. On the other hand if a character is evolved, than for that character, to be an inspiration, the implementing of a faceless system that purely works on algorithms, will end up leaving mankind anti interactive to human character, which with a digital world will end up leaving everyone secluded in the digital world. Society can only evolve when position within society are represented by humans.. not by something digital. Rank positions occupied by Digital presence is being sold as something highly moral. This is a mirage that's being sold to mankind, which will be regretted in the future. Society will always need the fragile nature of mankind in position so that it can display it, for it to grow or taught. Taking it out will have short term gains but whether there is the long term growth of the human race, that will only become evident as time goes by and giving it a credible position right now, is something that is too premature !
Few people can think deeply like you in this fast moving world. All they care about efficiency, and money. Without God who will care about freedom and all those values that we take for granted. Nobody know what will be long term of metaverse on the brain. How it will change the meaning of language? This is the reason why civilization get extinct. After the Pandora's box has been opened, the things that we make control ourselves. But who will care about all these things. People are willing to see themselves for money. All values are founded on middle class ideals. The noble man are very few.
Truth. This is what happen to Malaysia Chinese Pop. We have nothing. The govt that look right but we were not part of it. Our 40% rights were rob by race Malays that selfishly took 100%.
Is your country more digital than South Korea? Well I just did my VAT report for my business at my computer in 20 minutes accounting over 2500 transactions to be reported.
I think its less we need to digitalize our government and more give the current system an update to better utilize today's technology. Tech government sounds wonderful if nothing goes wrong but key word being "If". And I think we humans have demonstrated spectacularly that we cannot maintain good leadership in a changing world.
A very interesting talk and something i shall give some thought too as i can already see some issues. However, i do have to take into account the things she mentioned as they may solve those problems. I also think i've found my future wife, she's beautiful!
By 2022 Estonia will have transformed into a cloud of pure thought and left the physical universe behind
Or they'll be a tyrannical sh*thole and beg the USA to save them.
2025
Estonian cloud mind creates it's own heaven-like universe.
@@ferrusmanus4013 2030 Russia creates anti-universe in order to destroy Estonian unverse.
Ye, we trying to acheave that before the AI takes over the world...
@@MrRommiruttas they said that they'll be using AI. Perhaps it will take over the world
3:05 "Think about it. In most countries, people don't trust their governments. And the governments don't trust them back"
This is a nice summary of why we aren't taking full advantage of technology, or anything really
Thats most countries problem, we arent most.
People who have opened a history book understand there are good reasons not to trust their government. The government knew where all the Japanese Americans were to be forcibly moved into camps because the Japanese Americans filled out census forms
@@pvopop4938 To call digital signature solution for fundamental trust problem is quite bold statement. Band aid, sure, but no way close to permanent solution.
Mass profiling coupled with machine learning are a perfect match to control public perception and how people vote.
A tyranny will always be potentially more efficient than a democracy.
This is nothing new.
Estonia did grow their GDP by 300%, since they digitized their government services.
Reducing bureaucracy does work !
I'm an Australian living in Estonia. The digital ecosystem is fantastic, once you get past a few odd hurdles. Estonia really has set the standard. Oh, and visit Estonia, it's an amazing place :)
@@AB-fu6py work visa. Estonia makes it easier than many other countries to get a temporary residence permit so that companies can employ foreign talent where they require it 👍
So is bitcoin a scam? Craig Wright is an Australian claiming to invent it
Very pleasant voice to listen to!
Damn what a presentation. Legend!
She is so pleasant to listen to. I really enjoyed the way she conveyed the message 👏 👏 👏
"One time only" rule is an amazing idea, how frustrating it is to hear each time from government organizations that they need your name and all that stuff. I barely never go to any appointment without address proof document. Good talk, thank you, Anna.
Except for that part that says it can only be stored in one place... meaning the data only needs to be corrupted or deleted one time.
@@Ruby321123 definitely, the security question still remains
@@Ruby321123
Security issues can be fixed in time.
@@Ruby321123 that's why you have backups
@@Ruby321123 If the data is corrupted or deleted in Estonia, these data can be recovered from data servers with RAID from Luxembourg.
Quite encouraging to see the Estonian Government fully embrace technology and improve Government services easily accessible to all, at the same time have clear data ownership principles. Quite admirable
Great talk, great system! I hope Finland will soon follow in Estonia's footsteps in this. So far, the main problem has been the technologically challenged older people, who refuse to adopt new ways out of fear of the unknown, and their younger enablers, who keep drumming for their right to remain ignorant.
Ootame kuni meie generatsioon on vanad
The rest of the world needs to become like this!
Excellent presentation on E-Governance of a country to be emulated by other countries to follow. Trust matters.
I’d like to have it in my country. We’re in 2020 and I can’t really see that we use the “digital” potential. Estonia has been using it for almost 20 years. Why can’t we? The vision of getting rid of all the paperwork has completely taken me. In my opinion we waste so much time organising, filling out or even keeping any kind of documents. Of course introducing such a solution to government’s system is probably not easy and takes lot of time but I’m sure it will pay off. In my country going to any office is a nightmare and I mean it. You have to be mentally ready for standing in a queue for half day , dealing with office workers and finally after all of this finding out that you didn’t bring one document which makes you unable to get something done. Here’s the solution and I love it.
Well as she mentioned the 3 things. Marriage, getting an ID card and real estate - we still have to go through that. Your comment actually hit close. I just got my ID card renewed and had to simply sit in a crowded office space waiting for my number to go up. Like jesus, even that one time was enough. Tbh I was a little bit lazy and didn't pre-book a time so I had to go through the regular queue but yeah. One part of the "hidden government" I love that I can do anything through a center "citizen hub" site and don't have to basically take a day or two off to "do government stuff". In reality the biggest problem is that you simply have to trust your government managing this but you put trust in your system anyhow, digital or not.
"One time only" and I own my data and see who accessed it, wow. Brilliant
This was an interesting talk. Really enjoyed it.
This is what it should be around the world, open to anyone.
ruclips.net/video/CJ1loOhZJ-Q/видео.html
I watched your video and had to remark on it but the comments were turned off. I guess the groundbreaking physics you were talking about were spoken of by Gunther Pauli, of the Blue economy fame? He spoke of clean innovation in physics being replaced with destructive artificial upgrades in chemistry, all for financial gain and keeping up the protectionist status quo. But since you are aware of the truth, you are morally bound to make it known to all...love and good energy from Goa, India
Ms. Piperal, Great presentation. Your countries system sounds wonderful. Maybe the USA can get there someday. Unfortunately, it may take an uprising and revolution to get us there!
Kind Regards
Bill Woodall
Retired IT
Love this!! Especially the once only. Well done. Big fan of distributed computing. And it is amazing how well people behave when they know there is a log of their activity.
"how well people behave"
If only Massah had this technology when slavery was confined to agriculture rather than being all inclusive eh?
"Behave"?
You want a master?
What if your master is having a bad day, and wants to throw you off the roof for fun?
very nice. excellent presentation.
Estonia's lessons around digital identity, 'Once only', X-Road data exchange (including use of blockchain), Data ownership, and the concepts of the data embassy and e-residency - remain highly relevant to other Governments seeking to transform the way government and society interact. While some technological aspects have since evolved - the underlying approach remains a helpful example/model.
Awesome! Now i‘d like to see A.I. Being the government itself. It‘s not perfect either but it would be preferable to a situation where narcissism fights its way to power.
WHO controls this "AI" genius?
Dialectical Monist you mean who programs it? People who understand that government is there for the needs of society and who are not afraid of making themselves obsolete. It would be difficult for sure. But if the result is a government that cannot be corrupted by narcissism, it‘s worth it.
@@dialecticalmonist3405
AGI and ASI cannot be controlled.
Artificial intelligence is the future. I do not want to see inefficient, corrupt and unstable governments in a next 10-20 years.
Human beings are painfully bad at governing, becouse of their nature. Only through technology there can be progress.
AI has fucked us all
Great Estonia, congratulations! Here from Brazil.
1:32 things you CAN'T do online: get ID documents, get married or divorced, real estate transactions 1:53 file taxes in 3 minutes from mobile device with pre-filled data 2:55 transformation of state role, digitalization of trust 4:00 e-Estonia design principles. Digital ID, digital signature 4:58 once-only distributed approach 6:06 X-Road data exchange protocol
I pray my country reaches such levels one day.
So, they have to still fill in the forms, but they can't even ask anyone any questions :D Sounds great, truly :D
Siri... Is that you?
One BIG sales pitch , for your information !
My country has had the same type of digital government as Estonia has, yet this video makes it seem like it's "new" to have for instance a digital identity, when here in Norway we've had BankID(digital identification) for online voting, online banking, social services and whatnot for many years.
No one distrusts this system, everyone trusts the government.
Good for them, though.
I want government to be a subscription app I can download and pay for through monthly auto pay. If my government starts doing things I don't like, I don't need to write my Congressman, I just cancel my subscription and download a different app
I like how most people here are concerned about someone watching them or their information being hacked... well guess wat the government and private companies are doing with your on-paper documents when ur not watching! And by the way, when they copy them, you wont get a notification about it.
Guess I’m becoming Estonian now.
Me too but it's cold there...
We are all Estonia, all are Estonia.
@@1ailAlia1 Estonia is everywhere in the World at the same time as it is Digital
This is just astonishing.. great peoples do gteat things..
I must say the fundamental thing is still that you have to trust your governments ability to manage your data. Then again the same trust you have to give your government, digital or not.
Estonia perhaps the biggest plus is that we are a "manageable" country with a small population, so if some politician or anyone gets rich quick the alarm bells go off.
But practically the trust has been gained and at the end of the day the idea is very simple. Instead of going to the office and writing stuff on paper you simply file it online. Like the government will get your data one way or another. It's just more efficient. Every person saves hour/days of travel time in a year and as a population we save a percentage or two, three from the overhead cost of "the government".
I kind of hate the concipracy theories. I mean if they mismanage the data then the government would mismanage any data and use it for ill , again digital or not. So far the system works and if we are constantly afraid of everything we could simply do away with government alltogether and live as hut tribes in forests. At the end we still have to "give power" to people to manage others and every system that has humans as a factor in it can fail. But putting those fears first would lead to no progress. I mean we are doing fine, we have roads, schools, gdp per capita is mostly going up, more cash in our pockets etc. It's stupid to have such big fears upfront. I mean its smart to be cautious but for gods sake, at least try the system before building a "mental wall" infront of you. This is more for US citizens who I have seen mostly being extra paranoid about their government while the main collectors are the ones all use as in facebook, google and other sorts tech companies who can track your phones through gps and they don't answer to any government or could "hop countries" .
In the end well all know we live in a "broken world" that mostly has become democratic or in other words "the best semi-working system we have" to date. Putting a layer of digital infra on it is in no way the straw that would break the system.
I don't think you fully understand the issues people have with a system like this, especially one that wants to implement a centralised digital currency alongside it..
It would effectively mean full control of how we live our lives. Just look at what happened in Canada with that complete nutcase Trudeau..
Trucker's wanting the simple human right of bodily autonomy had their accounts frozen.
We already know natural immunity is better then a vaxed one.. especially due to the unknown long term safety effects of those experiemental mRNA drugs.
Yet we are seemingly coerced into taking them to live a "normal" life..
Corrupt government overreach linked to Corporate profits presenting a facade of virtue can take full advantage of this situation.
Australia, New Zealand and Austria are other examples of this.
For a digital currency/Blockchain - system to work, we need to ensure the corrupted need to profit and take advantage of a population in this situation is fully addressed.
People are fully aware of the unhealthy influence multinational corporations and Central Banks have over our governments..
Seems this could eliminate the faff of carrying and providing a pile of ID documents whenever you switch careers. One Card. One Account. Welcome!
Sounds like a Yang 2020 Ad lol. Though seriously I herd about Estonia in the tech world and I always thought they were way ahead of every one. They were even doing multi-cryptographic decentralized ledgers way before Blockchain and Crypto came on the scene.
Some see Estonia as the silicon valley of Europe.
That doesn't mean they don't have problems tho.
@@brokkoliomg6103 people who have the leading edge always have to face the problems, others just follow neatly
I'm completely absorbed in this. I had the pleasure of reading something similar, and I was completely absorbed. "The Hidden Empire: Inside the Private Worlds of Elite CEOs" by Adam Skylight
replace all politicians with digital programs who neither know greed or corruption. Never In my life has anything sounded more right
The Netherlands could learn from this. They are busy doing the same thing, sort of, but they are not on same level how she describe it. The only once principle is not used and only financials bank are implementing Blockchain.
20 years ago, they were already in advanced , already promoted digital service? This is insane. .. I was just in high school.
Data rights should be human rights, and they should be modeled after the Estonian paradigm.
Wonderful country in the world.
This is a marvel. I read a book with similar content, and it was a marvel to behold. "The Hidden Empire: Inside the Private Worlds of Elite CEOs" by Adam Skylight
My other concern would be, for those who are living on the street, ir other wise homeless, how does this affect basic survival? If one doesnt have access to a device or computer, how do you prove your health history or insurance? Or vote, or collect assistance? I've had times where I didn't have a smart phone or computer.
Is it a cash free culture as some other have said? Disabled or elderly people, how do they cope?
Each person has a unique personal code that consists of 11 numbers. They are easy to remember because there is a easy system to how they're made up. To prove who they are, they need the code (id card would be ideal but the code will do the trick most of the time)
Also insurance? If you mean medical insurance then everyone expect unregistered unemployed have medical insurance provided by the government (that means everyone who pays social tax or for whom social tax is paid for, are covered by haigekassa) and the personal code is enough for doctors to see your medical history.
Estonians in public: hey look at this cool thing we did!
Estonians in private: I HAVE TO DOWNLOAD FIREFOX TO VOTE THIS IS A NIGHTMARE
Issssssand... räägi, kui jube sul oli?
This seems to be a system that is working for Estonia. But how would it work for those people who do not wish to take the COVID jab.
Awesome.like to see this in India too
Stop using streets as public toilets first, and then think about digital government.
@@ferrusmanus4013 thanks for advice. We are working toward it.by the way which country r u from
Politicians, and the human factor in general, hinder more than they help. Humans have their own agendas that are often not in line with the common good. Prejudices, sympathy for some and not for others, corruption and personal gain, retribution of personal favors, and cognitive biases are some of the factors that compromise the evaluations of human decision makers. Algorithms and AI are much more reliable and transparent, and should be used whenever possible. When the unique abilities os humans are needed, a careful structure should be put in place to counteract the negative aspects of human judgment. A lot of progress has been made in this direction in psychology and behavioral economics, and these ideas should be used when we structure the decision-making processes. Daniel Kahneman and Richard Thaler
have been talking about these things.
***Orwell intensifies***
'For your own good'
If you know how to use technology then you have every single freedom with it.
"We have to become transparent".
Yep.
That's basically the only problem in the brave new world. Hope it'll go well for you, Estonia. Sure grateful that here it's different.
I'd rather deal witb government offices, inefficient amd annoying though they might be.
A stong digital identity?
A strong digital signature?
Good grief.
Yeah sure, nobody could EVER hack that. It's from the GOVERNMENT, right? And if you have smart cryptographers setting it up it's crime proof, right?
And you could report any misuse, right?
And the government, which we know, never ever gets corrupt, especially in a DEMOCRACY, will take care of it, right?
Here we call that "living in a bubble".
But, heck, they already do it fo almost 2 whole decades, hey, that's historically like an eon, it has basically proven itself.
Definitely export it to the whole world.
Heck,everybody should become a transparent citizen.
Such an easy life...
And no, i'm no technophobe. Not trolling or hating.
Just honestly concerned. And amazed at how naive people have become so short after a blood soaked century of totalitarianism.
Hope there will be a way out again after humanity has built a digital cage for itself.
I kind of like what I am hearing about taxes being simplified and free to file. And hope the next step is not filing at all because the government already has all the data, so why they just send me an annual report?
So you can look it over and make changes if needed, like selling a house.
Just one word: "Admire"
Thanks
Google, how do I immigrate to Estonia?
You don't need to immigrate there physically, just get an e-residency lul
@@horribleIRUKANDJI Yeah it take like 15 minutes
Informative.
this efficiency is admirable but should not be applied to empower the state but in the contrary to deconstruct it
so to let free market give all services and abolish taxes and the inevitable human government corruption
and an another important point is privacy!
in their model is only partial privacy,
this will give total power to the future inevitable dictator
How about the snitch on your neighbors "e-Enemy" feature of the diia app!
Data embassy is a great idea!
OMG the opposite of Italy.
In Italy you can avoid paying taxes at all. The more you owe to Italy the more it respects you. By not paying your taxes you gain power, what's better than that?
Bravo !
Please can you do the talk here in India, the fools ruling our country need some sense stuffed into their heads.
In all we have 3 national paper identities till now, and there is a 4th being proposed
*Things that have actually happened in my life*
Dad, trying to get his blood test results online: What do you mean I don't have permission IT'S MY BLOOD!??!
Me: gets 100% on physics test, grade uploaded at 10am
Text from mom 5 min later: I saw your test grade! I'm so proud of you 😊
Dad: why did this random government worker look at my birthdate?
Me: walks into new doctors office
Doctor: can you wait like 5 minutes, the system has crashed, i don't even know your age
You are an attractive looking person and your ideas are impressive🎉🎉🎉🎉
Be wary of trading freedom for convenience.
True but here it's more convenient, secure, transparent and offering more freedom than our system.
Tyranny will always be more efficient than democracy.
Europeans can experiment with all this crazy stuff because they know the USA will save them if a dictator takes over their "utopia".
@@dialecticalmonist3405 - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
If you know how to use technology then you have every single freedom with it.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 Do you mean the US government who via American banks have funded the European far right parties to stabilise Europe? As for proofs several of these parties ( in France and Italy) have admitted it. Russian banks have helped as well.
NATO is mainly funded by US fundings but look at how it's split. US gov govern NATO (fair enough) with European fundings paying mainly for administrative and structural costs but US fundings pay mainly for buying weapons and equipment. Those ones must be Americans. Technically, the US gov uses NATO to spend American taxpayer money to buy American weapons from American companies which in return funds government campaign and offer 'presents'. So the US fundings come back to the US but the European fundings do not go back to European companies. That's why trump decided not to leave in the end 😊👍🏼
I care more about what she has to say because she is pretty. I recognize the bias, but I don't try to fight it. Rather I recognize that people have this type of bias, and realize that one of my goals should be to be more pretty (or handsome in my case).
Not fight the bias? Why would you _choose_ to be vulnerable to deception?
A state can be free to approve a system that's intentionally insecure, though not on paper. For use as yet another figure in the power struggle against its people.
So-o... this is by no means a silver bullet of citizen trust.
**What a digital government looks like** :-
*I mean, zeroes and ones, I guess ?*
Literally yes
thar would be an improvement, current governments exist of mainly zeroes...;-)
the analog alarm clock, was really the slave master, saying wake up wake up, get prepared to go to plantation for work...
And I am working on programmed halogramic humanoids that are operated from central database system and can serve people 24/7 which speaks all the languages in the world. After im done with it the people wont need anymore any burocracies any human service any waiting lines any corruption bribery elements any human contact policies relations etc. We are entering to a new era! :) Hi from Kyrgyzstan
Sounds like a great way to track my behaviour and use that information to influence who I vote for. Thank you, I hate it.
This isn't China. No tracking of activities/locations/behavior/financial prudence etc. Also any information request is a) limited to fields what the clerk/doctor/police needs for his work and b) is logged and visible to the citizen, who can then request a clarification regarding it.
In what other country would you know that someone isn't shuffling through your data as we speak, among many duplicated and untracked forms of data recording?
Estonia has a population of only 1.3 million in 2020. Must be why this works.
12:26
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like she didn't answer her own "last question". That's odd.
12:43 - She immediately starts talking about the e-Residency program. This is the answer.
Xion Eternum OMG, I misunderstood the question. I thought she was talking about people being able to access someone else's profile.
Kinda embarrassing tbh
Is it open source?
left the union and joined the another one... she says that the system is user-centric but the organization's requirements are always at the top.
It looks like it does, what did you think?
Ok may i apply for Estonian citizenship thru online?
Just wow.
Thank you 🙏 Madam, for Beautiful Mesg
You should talk to Edward Snowden!
But i apologize: You (at 8:00) changed for a while. But I'm getting more confused where you really stand! I hope not "some" but "most" think where the downsides are, lady! Yes - threatened - but not because my skills will be obsolete, rather because AI will take over with so much speed that we can't follow - and then ...
Love u anna
Steve Irvin said "Dainger, dainger, danger" - see he did not know the real danger.
So no need for bitcoin?
Haha they use blockchain, brilliant. Such a wonderful thing. This is the best talk ever.
A blockchain is meaningless if it can be altered.
It is far less efficient than a central server.
@YoshiPeach Mario what?
@@dialecticalmonist3405 Do you even know what a blockchain is?
@@chocomalk
Yes.
It is a digital ledger of records, secured by a system of trust, involving physics and/or logic.
If this digital ledger can be altered by a central authority, it destroys the entire purpose of having a digital ledger of trust in the first place.
If one places their trust in a central authority, it is not necessary to have a blockchain that secures trust.
A central server is far more efficient than a blockchain, but efficiency is not what blockchain technology was created for.
@@dialecticalmonist3405 A server can be hacked a blockchain has a ledger and is decentralized and cannot be altered without it being noticed, that is the difference, it is a ledger.
My lucid dream for 2021
They're trying to get rid of cash, guys.
what r cash guys?
@@alexanderledbetter1723 a comma was really needed there haha
Use bitcoin!
and what happens when an EMP or solar flare shuts down the power and fries the system? You're basically back to zero. Hey, I love the idea of no bureaucrats but paper records have value. You'd also need to regulate the internet as a public utility; maybe easy to do in a country like Estonia, but here in Canada, it would be a logistical nightmare.
if that would happen then everyone would be fucked, no matter if u have digital society or not.
Yes, that would fry any system/country. Even so, you watched the part of the digital embassy backups, right?
Germany is also a beauraucratic nightmare.
Don't fear the failure, fear the absence of progress.
Damn.
Did anyone else think her voice sounded like a digitally generated voice?
Rather than working on trust, empathy and human interactions and finding ways of building bridges amongst people, in very minute ways to aide either evolved or broken character .. if broken then something that will require the physical efforts and actions that can be witnessed to show or prove character building. On the other hand if a character is evolved, than for that character, to be an inspiration, the implementing of a faceless system that purely works on algorithms, will end up leaving mankind anti interactive to human character, which with a digital world will end up leaving everyone secluded in the digital world.
Society can only evolve when position within society are represented by humans.. not by something digital.
Rank positions occupied by Digital presence is being sold as something highly moral.
This is a mirage that's being sold to mankind, which will be regretted in the future.
Society will always need the fragile nature of mankind in position so that it can display it, for it to grow or taught. Taking it out will have short term gains but whether there is the long term growth of the human race, that will only become evident as time goes by and giving it a credible position right now, is something that is too premature !
Few people can think deeply like you in this fast moving world. All they care about efficiency, and money. Without God who will care about freedom and all those values that we take for granted. Nobody know what will be long term of metaverse on the brain. How it will change the meaning of language? This is the reason why civilization get extinct. After the Pandora's box has been opened, the things that we make control ourselves. But who will care about all these things. People are willing to see themselves for money. All values are founded on middle class ideals. The noble man are very few.
Truth. This is what happen to Malaysia Chinese Pop. We have nothing. The govt that look right but we were not part of it. Our 40% rights were rob by race Malays that selfishly took 100%.
Looks like Estonia will become the capital of Metaverse.
Is your country more digital than South Korea? Well I just did my VAT report for my business at my computer in 20 minutes accounting over 2500 transactions to be reported.
I needed 3 minutes this year and 4 days for the return money to arrive in Estonia
20 min? What is it? Year 2003?
I think its less we need to digitalize our government and more give the current system an update to better utilize today's technology.
Tech government sounds wonderful if nothing goes wrong but key word being "If".
And I think we humans have demonstrated spectacularly that we cannot maintain good leadership in a changing world.
Nice
maybe she is right
She is not though.
Not maybe, she is right.
@@dialecticalmonist3405
Any examples of how digitalization of the government is bad?
Or is it just your irrational fear?
Ferrus Manus One word: hacks.
@@aceyage
Security issues can be fixed in time.
FINALLY
English probably isn't her first language, she's killing it. Get it Mama;!!!!
A very interesting talk and something i shall give some thought too as i can already see some issues.
However, i do have to take into account the things she mentioned as they may solve those problems.
I also think i've found my future wife, she's beautiful!
Sadly, technology cannot deal with all inappropriate comments.
This is some Metal Gear 4 stuff lol
The patriots🤣
Feels scary.
Technophobes are disgusting. Accept technology or go live in a cave.
"... until are humans involved" 😅👍🏻
Who just watches this if they not in school