Yay, at least you made a video about my main homelab server! I have 3 of those I love them so much. But the non HP drives inacceptancy is such a big pain. Cheers from Poland!
I actually purchased one of these about five months ago(Generation 7). Bought it with two Xeon X5570s, 16 GB RAM, 2x146GB SAS drives. Came fully equipped but the processors weren't the same the machine would have shipped with from the factory(should have been X56XX series). I replaced them with X5675s(I wanted X5690s but the prices were insane because apparently people are buying them to make gaming PCs now. About $120 a piece.) I also upgraded the ram to 88GB and replaced the two drives with three 600GB hitachi SAS drives. Very very quiet for its form factor, and only eats about ~80w on idle which is acceptable. The IBM X3650 M2 that we have eats about 140-160W and it's running 24/7 which should eventually be replaced. Machine is reliable I'll give it that.. but the fact I can't upgrade any of the firmware w/o entitlement or warranty is rather annoying. Raid Controller has some issues that I can't fix without a firmware upgrade for it(P410i). I originally wanted a Generation 8 or similar machine with an E5/E7 processor but the price difference was around $500 between the one I got and the one I wanted.
I got myself a ProLiant ML350 G6 things huge 5U when its rack converted, Dual X5650's @ 2.67 with 80GB memory in it, i do like the older HP server's they feel pretty solid, picked up two 460W Platinum Plus PSU's from barginhardware awhile ago thanks to you promoting them
I recently got myself one of these, except with the eight drive option and it is brilliant, plus it is not noisy at all. I watched your video and saw you pop out the Diagnostic module. So I though I don't remember seeing that, had a look at mine and there it is! My DL380s have this panel integrated into the front panel already. I though the DL360 relied on the iLO interface for diagnostics. Very cool! Thanks for that. :D
Today started a old DL360 G7 I still had laying around and have a other one. At startup it makes loud noise and then is almost fully silent :) Love how these things are more quiet then most servers / tower servers (ml350 g6)
Yes the DL series servers are real keepers. Like you said, the industry is going away from feature rich stand alone servers and moving to Node design for clustering service base deployments. So if you can still get any HP G8, G7 series or G6 servers,get them. Also you will want to keep the server forever for the days of these servers being around are short lived. They don't make them like this any more. As for why you have four screws to keep the raiser card in place is because the designers use the raiser card as part for the server metal frame because frame design is a little weak. So they lock everything down and that give the server chassis frame some added strength. Just in case you were wondering. I have two DL360-G7 and four eHP-DL380/385 G6/G7 servers as well. Love them all. Another great server (If you can get it still) is the Dell DX-720 2U server array, huge number of features in that chassis, the Dell 720 is a OK frame but the DX rules. Google used them years ago for their 2U server engines. You can see them being tire from Google and on Ebay to be sold. So if you see someone getting rid of them. Get it, re-flash the BIOS and rock in role! Good video!
@@MyPlayHouse No problem if you can check out my video on the Dell DX-720 video I have. It is really a great server to work with. It does anything. Later!
I have one of these, using it as my virtual server at home with proxmox, 1 CPU, and 72GB of ram. Electricity is cheap for me so i can run it with no real cost (currently iLO says its using 117 watts). yeah removing that cover for the RAM is a pain, so is getting it back in especially since mine has the SAS cables going to the backplane in there so there is even less room
been colocating one of these for the past 3 years, but the 5600 chips use too much power these days so its getting replaced tomorrow with a Dell R620 which idle uses half the power of the G6
One thing to watch out for; the DL360 G7 came with 2 motherboard versions, a 90w and a 130w version, and if you got the 90w version you were very limited to what cpu's you could upgrade to. I'm not sure if this is true for G6, but keep the possibility in mind. The extra power connector and SAS connector can be used for an extra backplane as you figured, but the extra backplane also replaces the CD drive, so you can configure the server for 8x SFF drives. The module by the raid controller is solely the cache module, it could be upgraded from BBWC to FBWC or from 512M to 1G.
@@MyPlayHouse Yeah, 90w is just where the fun CPUs start. I believe the backplanes are identical, so both are 4-slot, but i don't know if there exists a 2-slot one, but i haven't seen it. Edit: It seems there were a 6 slot backplane for G5, but only 4 slot for G6/7.
Me. I would put 2 cpus in this. Xeon 5345 cheap and work good. Looks good. Very clean. Fill those ram bays up. What frequency does the ram rum at. Great bit of kit. Thank you for showing👍
I've got one of these 360DL G6 with 2x X5660 CPUs and an Nvidia Quadro p400 for Video transcoding. Parts are cheap and this thing is still powerful enough for me. I like it!
I have a stack of these that I use as an ESXi lab at work. I'm going to have to move them into my garage soon as we're moving offices - my electric bill is going to skyrocket!
I've just found and got cheaply DL360 G2 with dual Pentium 3 Tualatins 1.4 GHz. Just the CPUs are worth some money for retro gaming enthusiasts - and I also have other PC with single 1.4 P3. But the server was without top cover and HDDs, I've needed to change SDRAMs to get it going. One of the drawback is the noise. 24V CPU blower is going 100% (in management software it says CPU FAN: HIGH and PSU FAN: NORMAL) even if the iLO and power drivers are installed under OS, I even updated bios, without success. Looked for case intrusion switch in case its a problem without top cover but i failed. Such a shame. It would be awesome machine, but it sounds like hair dryer all the time.
On my DL380p Gen8 the power supply warning goes away if you pull out the supply from the server. You might want to try this if if you don't need the extra redundancy.
Been following loosely for a year or so, did you ever cover what you do for a living, and how you come to enjoy all this tech? Also interested in the hole in your basement, what the heck! We had a sump pump in Colorado, I recall, as a kid, , but not a nightmare inducing hole to oblivion in the beasement floor. My memories are 40 years old.
Hi Michael Phelps I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there. docs.google.com/document/d/10tNReA70PsMT4dnyyg6-DdCyFEVcAI9WMizq1SNBibY/edit?usp=sharing Thank you for watching! :-)
Sorry, but G7 servers will always be iLo3. iLo4 lives on Gen8 and Gen9. Latest version of iLo3 is v1.92. Also, if upgrading from a version less than v1.28, you need to upgrade in two steps, first to v1.28, then to v1.92 from there.
I sometimes have trouble with USB2 and USB3,, so that if there is a USB2 inside,, it wants a USB2 stick,, and then there is the whole UEFI bios boot,, that becomes complicated.
@@MyPlayHouse They are out of warranty and support. We replace all our servers after the end-of-life+4 years. The cost of downtime because of a failure is higher then replacing with new servers. And many companies now replace their G7's en G8's to the lastest spec or move to Azure/ AWS. And will most likely migrate back to on premise after a few years because it is to expensive to host in the cloud. So my predicition: in 2029 the HP g13's will be super cheap because all the companies realise around the same time to buy hardware, and it will go out of warranty ;)
The G6 range seemed to have more options than any other I had seen, ended up with one with more drive bays than HP said they supplied until I did some extensive research, also normal HP no updates without a supportpaq....dell all the way now
I have a Dell 1950 v3, it is really great but, LGA 771 cpus don't have newer SSE ISA and some apps will fail. (I use mine to build stuff, but for example building android is not possible) I payed 80EUr for that: it had 2x 4 Core CPUs (I don't remeber the SKU), 32Gb of ram, the iDrac, the rails, 2 500GB SAS drives, a dual Gbit Intel NIC, and a qlogic fiber dual channel adapter. It have the built in perc raid controller, etc. I don't use it much often, and I would use it less over time due to my new server I'm working on. (its a LGA2011-3 one, so a huge jump in performances)
@@MyPlayHouse Yea, i got it 6 years ago for 80EUR with top grade cpus in there. now I have an x99 MB with a 2620v3 in it! For my nas is quite good. I can update the cpu up to a 22 core so its not that bad. Btw top grage enterpise hw is always cool!
Hi Morten, Once again great video. I have been using HP servers all the way back to about 2003 with G1 DL360, ML350 all the way through to DL360 and DL380 G8. But I have never booted off the SD Card, always the internal or external USB. The info I have on the DL360 G6 is the that the internal SD card is intended to be used for Hypervisors and the USB for booting, just as you have done with the Lenovo servers. I have re-checked the documentation and haven't found any information to say you can't have an SD Card and a USB mounted at the same time. I no longer have a DL360 to test it, but perhaps worth a try on another video? Hope this helps.
I have a few of these and there big brother 380 u3. The u1 us quiet when set to passive cooling. But when you set it to optimal, it's not... I monitored the temps and they are high with low fan noise. But in general they don't make much more noise over the u3 units. Mine has 5660's and it does do very well and the sas is nippy too (3x r0 1119mb/s). I don't know about usb and SD. I read about them along time ago, I think you can have both. I think the GPU power is good as this is server of the high power cards era. I don't think or would say the g6 is very out of date, it has good performance still and much faster than many desktop systems which are newer. Perhaps not the best comparison. But they're faster than my IBM servers, but I've just upgraded them and not really benches them. I have the G3, G5 and a few g6 I have the first model of the 360 u1. I'll have to do a video on that. I've done a G5 to G6 video. I prefer the g6 it has a better layout and the sas is not on-board as such. It has some fixing connection. There is a full revision between the two. The g6 forward not so much. I have the tower version of the G4... Well umm like a bad desktop system. No PCI express at all. So there a no no.. The G5 is slow in is more hard work environments it would be fine as a side unit. The g6 is more main. I've not gone for the G8, but have been looking. I have the upgrade kits for the g6 models. And also the IBM just sat around. The PSU on these isn't great, and you may have to also change the power profile. Many of the higher specs have 980w PSU's. (Big jump). I find them quiet noisy systems as the PSU fan spins up to cool things even when in standby.
Usually HP has the Hex ScrewDriver stuck in the back of the server. And in some servers, inside the server wich is very usefull, right? Those servers can use 8 hard drives, replacing the backplane and removing the dvd-rom. Ebay has pretty cheap CPUs for that socket. i Bought a second E5405 for my hp dl180g5, it was like 3 us dollares or something.
good ol Nahalem. hardly faster than even. Basic af, no HT, paltry cache and low base clock. had one in a DL160 G6 that ran W2008 x64 with Hyper-V hosting W2K and WNT4.0 VMs back in...2009 I think. It was still in use until 2017 when I left my last place of work.
It seems the later firmwares may have had a smarter fan control. Or maybe back in these server days they just set the fans to full all the time so people didn't realize they can run quiet.
There are three RAM Banks for each of the CPU's. and each of the banks has room for three blocks of RAM. The white slot it where to put the first block of RAM in each bank.
We've just given away a lot of G6's and a lot of G5's, too power hungry for green IT :-) The SD card slot was mostly used for vmware actually :-) The lid closing function and the plastic covers of those G6's are incredibly bad and difficult to refit :-/
The standard PSUs will run off 96V DC though any DC from around 90-250V should work but the PSUs will work best and more efficiently with 200+ volts AC or DC doesn't matter really.
I hat ~ 30 of the G6 in the wast container at work (Datacenter) some customer had retired them. Also entry level CPU 2xE5504 no HDD's, no rails, no nice expansion cards, low level PSU's but they left all the DDR3 1333 non L RAM Modules in there - so now I have some 8GBs, more 4GBs and a box of 2GB Modules. I'll try to get some used servers with low(max. 16gb)/no RAM like the DL380e G8 with the low end 8 cores to spec them up for cluster testing. I just get an 8gen NUC with the i3-8109U, in my benchmarks it where as fast as the 2xE5504 (R15 Multi C 359/362 & Single C 144/59) at way lower power.
I got one gen older, dl360 G5 with 64gb of ram and dual xeon L5420 processors and dual 700w power supplies, and ilo advanced licence (allows monitor power draw). It got 5x 146gb sas disks. It currently runs ESXI 6.0 nicely. It's old server and draws around 300w at load but it was free and had 8x8gb ddr2 so could not resist to grab it. If I plan upgrade storage on it should I look used sas disks or buy new sata disks?
@@MyPlayHouse I agree with you about those old servers. I have a problem to scrap them at work and would rather give them away for free, but not many are interested. Have ML370 G2, DL380 G3, G4 and G5 stored on some shelves. Have still some DL380 G5 and G6 in use.
you just got my subscribe!! coz i just have an HP Dl360 g6 rack as yours so need more videos about it, about upgrade, about all system that may be able to run very good, best feauturees, nnetwork storage using raid 0 1 5 1+0, hosting web site on it thanks for reading my comment keep going and let us learn from your experience
@@MyPlayHouse so sad... I waited for my question on some of your videos! What i asked for just on hp dl360 g6 bcz i just have one laying at home and am begenner on servers, i only work with desk-lap top, when you get some time i Will be very happy to see what i wanted to know in yours videos Thanks for all your video Have nice day
Nice detailed walkthrough, Morten :). Was hoping you'd leave the SD card plugged in before closing it back up ;-) No need to install an OS to check if the hardware is OK, throw a Knoppix Live DVD in there - it has some games and very basic benchmark tools (under System Tools menu) www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html Looking forward to the next video - if you can get both CPU sockets populated with faster cores, throw in a few hard drives and Linux installed on the SD, that would be a pretty good start :^)
My PlayHouse I saw the video where you compared the dl380 series... it was a real nice comparison. My Dl380 currently mines for folding@home under your team.
Yea but it does have a lot of base features and you can buy it on Ebay for $99 to $150 fully loaded. Not a bad deal... It works for a young up start IT starter kit. I have the G7 myself..
Totally disagree. At our company we have all ProLiant family generations in operation (well, actually G5 until Gen10), and the G6 and G7 remain unrivaled versus the later generations. Like Morten said in the video: way better (over)engineered, better cooling, better features. Very few HW-failures, and if there are it are the usual suspects (disks, RAID cache batteries and PSU's). The Gen8 however is the absolute rock-bottom. We have about 100 machines in service, and about a quarter suffer from the ILO NAND failure issue (unable to read AHS/REST data/Intelligent Provisioning) because HPE messed up their flash level-wearing algorithm. They only fixed it in FW v2.61, but by then most servers already had corrupt NAND. At least 10 servers have had to get their motherboard replaced (because the flash-chip is a BGA package soldered in the MB), and for machines that will not be replaced by Gen10's this year we will need HPE to replace those motherboards as well (I'm guessing about 15 machines). And also the start of locking-in with HPE-branded parts (SmartMemory, ..), if not using original HPE parts then fans are ramping up unnecessarily, or are outright blocked by firmware, etc.. Gen10 also was a bit rocky in their first few years, but now with the refreshed version (Cascade Lake-SP, i.e. x2xx series processors) and ILO 5 FW 2.15 things are starting to become useable..
If you have a DL360 / DL380 where the fans slowly pick up speed to jet engine level as the machine warms up (not running any processing) then checkout my FB post about how I fixed that issue. I hope this is of use to someone out there. facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2191158894297445&id=100002100677564
I have that server for more than 3 years at the moment with 2xX5675 CPU DDR3 288GB ram ECC 6x32GB and 8x16GB memory bank there is 18 slot 9 per CPU so first 9 slot with 3 channel 1 channel 2x32gb 2 channel 1x32 and 1x16gb 3 channel 2x16gb second 9 slot same configuration 1 channel 2x32gb 2 channel 1x32 and 1x16gb 3 channel 2x16gb for the final configuration with ram it will be 384GB ram so as for home server is good and also at the moment 5 SSD drive, all works nice and smooth. the biggest plus for that server is you can just plug in any PCI riser and plug in any PCI E graphics card. As for test i connect Radeon RX560 connect power cable and boom you even are able to play new games on that machine. the server have only one issue what all who have this DL360 can notice they are a bit loud, so guys if you have some solution how make them less loud. thx for any kind of solution or advice.
Yay, at least you made a video about my main homelab server! I have 3 of those I love them so much. But the non HP drives inacceptancy is such a big pain.
Cheers from Poland!
Thank you very much!
YAY thank you,Jim!who ever you are!
I shall pass along!
I actually purchased one of these about five months ago(Generation 7). Bought it with two Xeon X5570s, 16 GB RAM, 2x146GB SAS drives. Came fully equipped but the processors weren't the same the machine would have shipped with from the factory(should have been X56XX series). I replaced them with X5675s(I wanted X5690s but the prices were insane because apparently people are buying them to make gaming PCs now. About $120 a piece.) I also upgraded the ram to 88GB and replaced the two drives with three 600GB hitachi SAS drives. Very very quiet for its form factor, and only eats about ~80w on idle which is acceptable. The IBM X3650 M2 that we have eats about 140-160W and it's running 24/7 which should eventually be replaced.
Machine is reliable I'll give it that.. but the fact I can't upgrade any of the firmware w/o entitlement or warranty is rather annoying. Raid Controller has some issues that I can't fix without a firmware upgrade for it(P410i). I originally wanted a Generation 8 or similar machine with an E5/E7 processor but the price difference was around $500 between the one I got and the one I wanted.
Thank you very much!
I got myself a ProLiant ML350 G6 things huge 5U when its rack converted, Dual X5650's @ 2.67 with 80GB memory in it, i do like the older HP server's they feel pretty solid, picked up two 460W Platinum Plus PSU's from barginhardware awhile ago thanks to you promoting them
Hi RaithSphere
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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I recently got myself one of these, except with the eight drive option and it is brilliant, plus it is not noisy at all. I watched your video and saw you pop out the Diagnostic module. So I though I don't remember seeing that, had a look at mine and there it is! My DL380s have this panel integrated into the front panel already. I though the DL360 relied on the iLO interface for diagnostics. Very cool! Thanks for that. :D
Glad I could help 🧐
Today started a old DL360 G7 I still had laying around and have a other one. At startup it makes loud noise and then is almost fully silent :)
Love how these things are more quiet then most servers / tower servers (ml350 g6)
Hi GhostMusic
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Yes the DL series servers are real keepers. Like you said, the industry is going away from feature rich stand alone servers and moving to Node design for clustering service base deployments. So if you can still get any HP G8, G7 series or G6 servers,get them. Also you will want to keep the server forever for the days of these servers being around are short lived. They don't make them like this any more. As for why you have four screws to keep the raiser card in place is because the designers use the raiser card as part for the server metal frame because frame design is a little weak. So they lock everything down and that give the server chassis frame some added strength. Just in case you were wondering. I have two DL360-G7 and four eHP-DL380/385 G6/G7 servers as well. Love them all. Another great server (If you can get it still) is the Dell DX-720 2U server array, huge number of features in that chassis, the Dell 720 is a OK frame but the DX rules. Google used them years ago for their 2U server engines. You can see them being tire from Google and on Ebay to be sold. So if you see someone getting rid of them. Get it, re-flash the BIOS and rock in role! Good video!
Hi Leadius USA
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@@MyPlayHouse No problem if you can check out my video on the Dell DX-720 video I have. It is really a great server to work with. It does anything. Later!
Hello Morten, thank you for another great video. The four screws are there because the top lid is secured using the riser card ;)
Thank you very much!
I have one of these, using it as my virtual server at home with proxmox, 1 CPU, and 72GB of ram. Electricity is cheap for me so i can run it with no real cost (currently iLO says its using 117 watts).
yeah removing that cover for the RAM is a pain, so is getting it back in especially since mine has the SAS cables going to the backplane in there so there is even less room
Hi jjjacer
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I loved these 360 g6's. Much less power use and noise than the g5, nice and compact yet still could hold up to 8ish 2.5" bays
Thank you very much!
@@MyPlayHouse i think this is a g7
been colocating one of these for the past 3 years, but the 5600 chips use too much power these days so its getting replaced tomorrow with a Dell R620 which idle uses half the power of the G6
Good optimization!
One thing to watch out for; the DL360 G7 came with 2 motherboard versions, a 90w and a 130w version, and if you got the 90w version you were very limited to what cpu's you could upgrade to.
I'm not sure if this is true for G6, but keep the possibility in mind.
The extra power connector and SAS connector can be used for an extra backplane as you figured, but the extra backplane also replaces the CD drive, so you can configure the server for 8x SFF drives.
The module by the raid controller is solely the cache module, it could be upgraded from BBWC to FBWC or from 512M to 1G.
90w ;-/ that would be a lot, less fun.. so you can’t go to 6 drive ? But have to jump to 8 ?
@@MyPlayHouse Yeah, 90w is just where the fun CPUs start.
I believe the backplanes are identical, so both are 4-slot, but i don't know if there exists a 2-slot one, but i haven't seen it.
Edit:
It seems there were a 6 slot backplane for G5, but only 4 slot for G6/7.
Me. I would put 2 cpus in this. Xeon 5345 cheap and work good. Looks good. Very clean. Fill those ram bays up. What frequency does the ram rum at. Great bit of kit. Thank you for showing👍
He He,, this might be an older server,, but it is not Intel Xeon 5300 series old :-) It needs a 5500 or 5600.
I've got one of these 360DL G6 with 2x X5660 CPUs and an Nvidia Quadro p400 for Video transcoding. Parts are cheap and this thing is still powerful enough for me. I like it!
Hi Markus Wolff
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I have a stack of these that I use as an ESXi lab at work. I'm going to have to move them into my garage soon as we're moving offices - my electric bill is going to skyrocket!
Yes keep an eye on the power meter!
I've just found and got cheaply DL360 G2 with dual Pentium 3 Tualatins 1.4 GHz. Just the CPUs are worth some money for retro gaming enthusiasts - and I also have other PC with single 1.4 P3. But the server was without top cover and HDDs, I've needed to change SDRAMs to get it going. One of the drawback is the noise. 24V CPU blower is going 100% (in management software it says CPU FAN: HIGH and PSU FAN: NORMAL) even if the iLO and power drivers are installed under OS, I even updated bios, without success. Looked for case intrusion switch in case its a problem without top cover but i failed. Such a shame. It would be awesome machine, but it sounds like hair dryer all the time.
I have the HP dl380 g1,, but I messed up my server 2003 installation in my last video on it!
On my DL380p Gen8 the power supply warning goes away if you pull out the supply from the server. You might want to try this if if you don't need the extra redundancy.
Yes the server is okay with just having one PSU,, but if two is in and only one is working,, you get an error :-)
I have a few HP DL360 but mine are G7 with both CPU's installed 6 cores 12 threads x 2, each with both 3 channels of RAM installed.
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Been following loosely for a year or so, did you ever cover what you do for a living, and how you come to enjoy all this tech? Also interested in the hole in your basement, what the heck! We had a sump pump in Colorado, I recall, as a kid, , but not a nightmare inducing hole to oblivion in the beasement floor. My memories are 40 years old.
Hi Michael Phelps
I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there.
docs.google.com/document/d/10tNReA70PsMT4dnyyg6-DdCyFEVcAI9WMizq1SNBibY/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you for watching! :-)
Had two x5650 in mine, worked fine!
Video today! 😁
I use 2 of these to play around with ESXi :-)
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Hey! I've got the G5, and I use it for the same... But they consume a lot of power. What a pity!
Just got a DL380 G7 yesterday
That G7 has a later ILo version and I think it can be upgraded to ILo V3, also "Most" of the G7 parts are the same as the G6 parts for a DL380 server.
Sorry, but G7 servers will always be iLo3.
iLo4 lives on Gen8 and Gen9.
Latest version of iLo3 is v1.92.
Also, if upgrading from a version less than v1.28, you need to upgrade in two steps, first to v1.28, then to v1.92 from there.
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i have 1 gl360 g7 and a gl380 g7 no complaints about them except the 380 doesnt like booting from the internal usb.
I sometimes have trouble with USB2 and USB3,, so that if there is a USB2 inside,, it wants a USB2 stick,, and then there is the whole UEFI bios boot,, that becomes complicated.
Any of the G6's were noisy when any cards were added in the rear.
LOL @ the RAID card.... It's the cache module.
Humm on the IBM,, you get extra features.
The HP dl380 g7 servers are superb value on eBay at the moment.
72GB HP 15K SAS drives are super cheap, too - I bought 6 for £22 last month
I always wounder why there are so many HP servers for sail...
@@MyPlayHouse I'm not sure - mine work great and I picked the servers up for free...
Maybe there's something about them I don't know
@@MyPlayHouse They are out of warranty and support. We replace all our servers after the end-of-life+4 years. The cost of downtime because of a failure is higher then replacing with new servers. And many companies now replace their G7's en G8's to the lastest spec or move to Azure/ AWS. And will most likely migrate back to on premise after a few years because it is to expensive to host in the cloud.
So my predicition: in 2029 the HP g13's will be super cheap because all the companies realise around the same time to buy hardware, and it will go out of warranty ;)
Finally a video of a real server. 🤗 welcome to the dark side
ya I'd totally like to have to pay for bios updates with HP than get free updates from IBM
@Conor DeCamp No, they did for a while, recent total revamp of HPE support makes lots of stuff freely available.
@@flecom5309 Lenovo is Chinese, yes? Can you trust their BIOS updates now? Time to switch back to HPE and US firmware.
@@einfelder8262 I said IBM no? and where do you think those HPs are made?
@@DylanClements98 they are free right on IBMs website? also last I checked the HP bios requires entitlement, unless that's changed
Check the machine user manual before ordering RAM. My DL380 G6 requires 4Rx4 when fitting 16GB DIMMs, rather than 2Rx4 for 4GB and 8GB sticks.
Well in tomorrow’s video I upgrade this server to 144GB Ram,, but that is 16GB 2Rx4 that works?
I bought 16GB pc3-10600r 2rx4 for my G6, but got error beeps on power up. :(
keep that CPU, it's good when you try to update the bios and your mb doesn't support the x5670 yet
Can confirm, that's the exact reason I bought one of those. Cheapest possible for the socket. Was like $3 shipped several years ago.
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"he said and did it himself" I say this to myself all the time :)
I do not understand,, need a bit more contest..
The G6 range seemed to have more options than any other I had seen, ended up with one with more drive bays than HP said they supplied until I did some extensive research, also normal HP no updates without a supportpaq....dell all the way now
Well I am a Lenovo/IBM fanboy myself!
@@MyPlayHouse I would never have guessed 🤣 I like the Lenovo range.....apart from a few bricked motherboards due to earlier bios upgrade issues
I have a dl 350 g6. it's very useful for my studies
dl350 g6,, what is that model like?
I have a Dell 1950 v3, it is really great but, LGA 771 cpus don't have newer SSE ISA and some apps will fail. (I use mine to build stuff, but for example building android is not possible)
I payed 80EUr for that: it had 2x 4 Core CPUs (I don't remeber the SKU), 32Gb of ram, the iDrac, the rails, 2 500GB SAS drives, a dual Gbit Intel NIC, and a qlogic fiber dual channel adapter.
It have the built in perc raid controller, etc.
I don't use it much often, and I would use it less over time due to my new server I'm working on. (its a LGA2011-3 one, so a huge jump in performances)
The 1950 is to old,, you should look for r610 or r620 or even better a Lenovo 🧐
@@MyPlayHouse Yea, i got it 6 years ago for 80EUR with top grade cpus in there.
now I have an x99 MB with a 2620v3 in it!
For my nas is quite good. I can update the cpu up to a 22 core so its not that bad.
Btw top grage enterpise hw is always cool!
Hi Morten, Once again great video. I have been using HP servers all the way back to about 2003 with G1 DL360, ML350 all the way through to DL360 and DL380 G8. But I have never booted off the SD Card, always the internal or external USB. The info I have on the DL360 G6 is the that the internal SD card is intended to be used for Hypervisors and the USB for booting, just as you have done with the Lenovo servers. I have re-checked the documentation and haven't found any information to say you can't have an SD Card and a USB mounted at the same time. I no longer have a DL360 to test it, but perhaps worth a try on another video?
Hope this helps.
Hi gemini5865
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I have a few of these and there big brother 380 u3. The u1 us quiet when set to passive cooling. But when you set it to optimal, it's not...
I monitored the temps and they are high with low fan noise. But in general they don't make much more noise over the u3 units.
Mine has 5660's and it does do very well and the sas is nippy too (3x r0 1119mb/s).
I don't know about usb and SD. I read about them along time ago, I think you can have both.
I think the GPU power is good as this is server of the high power cards era.
I don't think or would say the g6 is very out of date, it has good performance still and much faster than many desktop systems which are newer. Perhaps not the best comparison. But they're faster than my IBM servers, but I've just upgraded them and not really benches them.
I have the G3, G5 and a few g6 I have the first model of the 360 u1.
I'll have to do a video on that. I've done a G5 to G6 video. I prefer the g6 it has a better layout and the sas is not on-board as such. It has some fixing connection. There is a full revision between the two. The g6 forward not so much.
I have the tower version of the G4... Well umm like a bad desktop system. No PCI express at all. So there a no no..
The G5 is slow in is more hard work environments it would be fine as a side unit. The g6 is more main. I've not gone for the G8, but have been looking.
I have the upgrade kits for the g6 models. And also the IBM just sat around.
The PSU on these isn't great, and you may have to also change the power profile. Many of the higher specs have 980w PSU's. (Big jump).
I find them quiet noisy systems as the PSU fan spins up to cool things even when in standby.
Hi Rory Witham
Thank You very much! you write way to much ;-) glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse oops sorry. Bad habbit
I have 4 of them at work, they're good!!
Yes,, getting a bit old, but a stable server.
@@MyPlayHouse yeah!! :D I have some questions regarding proxmox I don't if you can help me
Usually HP has the Hex ScrewDriver stuck in the back of the server. And in some servers, inside the server wich is very usefull, right? Those servers can use 8 hard drives, replacing the backplane and removing the dvd-rom. Ebay has pretty cheap CPUs for that socket. i Bought a second E5405 for my hp dl180g5, it was like 3 us dollares or something.
Take a good look at the E5450 instead. for the dl180g5
@@MyPlayHouse i will, thanks.
12:35 Editing Morten suddenly had to cut away 3 hours of presenter Morten playing on the plastic thingy with funny sound... :-P
I hit it by accident, and had to find that fun sound 😏
man I wish Bargain Hardware had a location in Australia, I'd loev to buy a server but shipping is expensive from the EU! haha
Well they are now out of the EU,, but shipping is still expensive :-/
good ol Nahalem. hardly faster than even. Basic af, no HT, paltry cache and low base clock. had one in a DL160 G6 that ran W2008 x64 with Hyper-V hosting W2K and WNT4.0 VMs back in...2009 I think. It was still in use until 2017 when I left my last place of work.
That E5502 is only ever so slightly faster than the plastic blinder in CPU 2
yes welcome to the dark side i love the DL360/DL380 series servers my firewall is running on the G6 and it runs real quiet fans are not loud at all
Well it is going to be interesting to see if it handles a real CPU :-)
Look forward to the video 😁
It seems the later firmwares may have had a smarter fan control. Or maybe back in these server days they just set the fans to full all the time so people didn't realize they can run quiet.
Wow cool hardware. Great video
Hi Zhi Wei Lee
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I've bought last week the G8
Hi Max78224
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
because of this i bought a dl360p gen8
Because of what?
@@MyPlayHouse you video made me whant to buy one
Hello again, anyone tell me why there is white & bl1ck slot for ram in the hp proliant d360 g6 what difference between them
There are three RAM Banks for each of the CPU's. and each of the banks has room for three blocks of RAM. The white slot it where to put the first block of RAM in each bank.
I got the same one. The Remote console wont boot any iso
Try firmware updating the ILO...
Cute server I like this video thank you for sharing this with us :)
You are very welcome.
@@MyPlayHouseHow's the wind turbine going by the way......Also where did you get it?
nice video by the way
where is the slot for the gpu card?
Also is a PC gpu compatible with this server (or maybe a dell one) ?
This only has room for small GPU's,, I forget if it had the 10-pin power connector...
We've just given away a lot of G6's and a lot of G5's, too power hungry for green IT :-) The SD card slot was mostly used for vmware actually :-) The lid closing function and the plastic covers of those G6's are incredibly bad and difficult to refit :-/
That plastic is really irritating 😠
Hello Sir, i am getting error as illegal opcode when i turn on my hp g6 server. any solutions ??
Sorry I do not know that,, you will need to google that one :-/
You need to check which motherboard this has, the early ones only support older CPUs.
Let's hope for the best.
Beautiful I want one too!! 😍😍
Hi fabio
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
The standard PSUs will run off 96V DC though any DC from around 90-250V should work but the PSUs will work best and more efficiently with 200+ volts AC or DC doesn't matter really.
Would be cool to run it directly from a number of solar panels!
My PlayHouse You can test that using some 8 batteries in series and check the voltage amps and cutoffs.
I hat ~ 30 of the G6 in the wast container at work (Datacenter) some customer had retired them. Also entry level CPU 2xE5504 no HDD's, no rails, no nice expansion cards, low level PSU's but they left all the DDR3 1333 non L RAM Modules in there - so now I have some 8GBs, more 4GBs and a box of 2GB Modules. I'll try to get some used servers with low(max. 16gb)/no RAM like the DL380e G8 with the low end 8 cores to spec them up for cluster testing.
I just get an 8gen NUC with the i3-8109U, in my benchmarks it where as fast as the 2xE5504 (R15 Multi C 359/362 & Single C 144/59) at way lower power.
That E5504 is so slow,, I barley have an old laptop that slow!
I recently bought a used G7. I am curious, what do you think is better, 32Gigs at 1600mhz or 64G at 1066mhz
If you only need 32Gb that is best. if you need 64Gb that is best. :-/
How much hard disk capacity we can mount to this server for video sharing (a file server)? is this server usable for video sharing?
There are no real limitations, but at some point it becomes 100% busy and you need one more.
@@MyPlayHouse Can you evaluate how many connection can we serve on this machine in each moment (I mean how many video could be serve in each moment)?
I got one gen older, dl360 G5 with 64gb of ram and dual xeon L5420 processors and dual 700w power supplies, and ilo advanced licence (allows monitor power draw). It got 5x 146gb sas disks. It currently runs ESXI 6.0 nicely. It's old server and draws around 300w at load but it was free and had 8x8gb ddr2 so could not resist to grab it. If I plan upgrade storage on it should I look used sas disks or buy new sata disks?
Problem is that these old servers are still as good as the day they were new,, hard to get rid of them!
@@MyPlayHouse I agree with you about those old servers. I have a problem to scrap them at work and would rather give them away for free, but not many are interested. Have ML370 G2, DL380 G3, G4 and G5 stored on some shelves. Have still some DL380 G5 and G6 in use.
What is under the big heat sink between the CPU and the fiber card?
That is most likely the chipset.
@@MyPlayHouse Thought it might be a GPU of sorts. Thanks.
where do you recommend to get cheap servers and networking hardware to start up with
Ebay actions,
you just got my subscribe!! coz i just have an HP Dl360 g6 rack as yours so need more videos about it, about upgrade, about all system that may be able to run very good, best feauturees, nnetwork storage using raid 0 1 5 1+0, hosting web site on it
thanks for reading my comment keep going and let us learn from your experience
Hi Oussama Thedjfreeman
Thank You very much! I might not do that on this server. glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse so sad... I waited for my question on some of your videos! What i asked for just on hp dl360 g6 bcz i just have one laying at home and am begenner on servers, i only work with desk-lap top, when you get some time i Will be very happy to see what i wanted to know in yours videos
Thanks for all your video
Have nice day
@23:08 she's a screamer! :-)
Bit of a whiny bitch 🤨
A common trait of the...nvmd she might read this
Nice detailed walkthrough, Morten :).
Was hoping you'd leave the SD card plugged in before closing it back up ;-)
No need to install an OS to check if the hardware is OK, throw a Knoppix Live DVD in there - it has some games and very basic benchmark tools (under System Tools menu)
www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html
Looking forward to the next video - if you can get both CPU sockets populated with faster cores, throw in a few hard drives and Linux installed on the SD, that would be a pretty good start :^)
Thank you very much!
DL380 branded as IBM was the preferred server of Stein Bagger - nice that you recycle the server as well. It might get an IBM virus in the rack :-)
I hope the comparison stops there! :-/
I think in this generation of server you will need a license for the onboard controller to use Raid 6... I'm using X5676 CPU's in mine...
Maybe I am not in to the way HP managed there raid levels and prices.
@@MyPlayHouse You're arguably better off with ZFS or even linux mdraid ;-)
Again, HP. Morten with glasses 👍
Me and this server is getting old!
was wondering why you were talking slower than usually, then i remembered to put your vid in 1.25x speed
I usually say you should play me at 2x,, then I am only half as boring! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse your content is really interresting, just a little slow talking a non native language. nothing we cannot fix in post.
Well i have a DL360 G5 and a DL380 G7
Same, I have 5 G5s and 1 G7, recently filled the G7 to capacity with 72GB 15k sas drives it's great
I have the dl380G1,G4,G6 and now the dl360G6
My PlayHouse I saw the video where you compared the dl380 series... it was a real nice comparison. My Dl380 currently mines for folding@home under your team.
G6.....The G10 has been out for at least a few years....I got a few G8s and 7s i could ship you lol
It’s crazy how much g7and g8 equipment there is for sale.
12:36 lol
Unexpected sound! 🤨
@@MyPlayHouse Yes also you can make another video about how to make new sounds using servers. :D
who the hell set their bios to static low power (downclocking to 1.6 Ghz) on a sho crappy cpu?!
I forgot to check that,, it ran way slower than expected!
The G6 series was one with the lowest quality, in my experience.
I like it,, and the G10 took month before the bugs was on a workable level.
@@MyPlayHouse How many bugs is Chinese Lenovo putting in your beloved servers, Morten?
Yea but it does have a lot of base features and you can buy it on Ebay for $99 to $150 fully loaded. Not a bad deal... It works for a young up start IT starter kit. I have the G7 myself..
Totally disagree. At our company we have all ProLiant family generations in operation (well, actually G5 until Gen10), and the G6 and G7 remain unrivaled versus the later generations. Like Morten said in the video: way better (over)engineered, better cooling, better features. Very few HW-failures, and if there are it are the usual suspects (disks, RAID cache batteries and PSU's).
The Gen8 however is the absolute rock-bottom. We have about 100 machines in service, and about a quarter suffer from the ILO NAND failure issue (unable to read AHS/REST data/Intelligent Provisioning) because HPE messed up their flash level-wearing algorithm. They only fixed it in FW v2.61, but by then most servers already had corrupt NAND. At least 10 servers have had to get their motherboard replaced (because the flash-chip is a BGA package soldered in the MB), and for machines that will not be replaced by Gen10's this year we will need HPE to replace those motherboards as well (I'm guessing about 15 machines). And also the start of locking-in with HPE-branded parts (SmartMemory, ..), if not using original HPE parts then fans are ramping up unnecessarily, or are outright blocked by firmware, etc..
Gen10 also was a bit rocky in their first few years, but now with the refreshed version (Cascade Lake-SP, i.e. x2xx series processors) and ILO 5 FW 2.15 things are starting to become useable..
If you have a DL360 / DL380 where the fans slowly pick up speed to jet engine level as the machine warms up (not running any processing) then checkout my FB post about how I fixed that issue.
I hope this is of use to someone out there.
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Thank you,, very interesting.!
Ah hp dl360 g6 a very good server...... lol.. pulling your arm Mortan I know u dislike hp support and hp servers.
well I am not a fan of the support level.
I have that server for more than 3 years at the moment with
2xX5675 CPU
DDR3 288GB ram ECC 6x32GB and 8x16GB
memory bank
there is 18 slot 9 per CPU
so
first 9 slot with 3 channel
1 channel 2x32gb
2 channel 1x32 and 1x16gb
3 channel 2x16gb
second 9 slot same configuration
1 channel 2x32gb
2 channel 1x32 and 1x16gb
3 channel 2x16gb
for the final configuration with ram it will be 384GB ram so as for home server is good
and also at the moment 5 SSD drive, all works nice and smooth. the biggest plus for that server is you can just plug in any PCI riser and plug in any PCI E graphics card. As for test i connect Radeon RX560 connect power cable and boom you even are able to play new games on that machine.
the server have only one issue what all who have this DL360 can notice they are a bit loud, so guys if you have some solution how make them less loud. thx for any kind of solution or advice.
Yes those tiny fans has to spin crazy fast to blow enough air through.