Randy, when is Sith Audio Production coming out with the Audiophile Workout VHS? I have 299 save up for it and getting anxiety that I might hurt tapping foot before I get the audiophile work out routine Not to mention the Sith Audio Heavy Metal Headphones made of audiophile tungsten is above my weight class So release the Sith Audio Production Audiophile Workout VHS, buy two get a free Audiophile sweatband at only 299 already!!!!
You should also ask your viewers to help you report and take down scammer accounts impersonating you. To try and help you keep your channel a safe place from scammers. They also got me. Thinking it was you bc they are using your photo and user name.
@@cheapaudioman I reported the users account atleast 12x from my end from my interactions and interactions with others in your comments that he's trying to bait
I used to work with a speaker company in Seattle building their enclosures. As part of my 'payment' they gifted me a 8" one-off prototype subwoofer driver. I did the speaker math and built an enclosure for it and mother of God it was a beast. My normal subs for my home theater were 2 12" 350 watt powered in three feet tall enclosures. This little 8" with a crazy throw in a tiny enclosure (12x10x10ish) sounded better and equaled the house-vibrating of the two 12's. So smaller can definitely be better if done right.
FYI: The SpeedWoofer is an RSL product, not REL. I wouldn't know this if I didn't research several of the smaller subs very recently, and I ended up getting the SVS SB-1000 Pro on sale over Memorial Day Weekend (great sub!).
I think randy knew exactly what he was doing with confusing the brands and models. Both rel and rsl have some budget options and they should both be sending review samples.
You can get 2 RSL Speedwoofers for the price of one micro. What pushed me in the RSL direction was that it had both LFE and speaker level connections that could be used simultaneously. Makes for a pretty versatile sub in terms of setup possibilities.
@@erics.4113 RSL sells so many Speedwoofers they can't keep them in stock. Still, I wish Randy would review one. I have the Speedwoofer 10S MKii and it's great especially for the price.
I've never heard an SVS sub that I didn't love. I've got two hooked up right now. Even in a crowded market, their value + quality proposition remains extremely attractive
As a happy owner of an SVS PB 12 sub bought well over 10 years ago, I couldn't agree with you more on the value and quality of this company including an excellent customer service. My sub is fairly large, the settings were strictly manual, is used mostly for home theater, but some music too, SACD/Blu Ray/DVD music and in a very large room with cathedral ceilings and it does a great job. The cost was about $7-800.00 including taxes and shipping, truly great product. Thanks for resurrecting your "vintage sponsor"!
You buy a 3000 micro to prevent your SO from mean mugging you. Especially since the SB1000 pro has more output and the PB1000 pro is on a different level but is also huge in comparison. SVS might not always be the best performance per dollar but it's hard to argue with their warranty, customer service, and features (app mainly) all while you can pick one up from best buy. Although one thing is with the dual opposing drivers you essentially get zero vibrations which is great for apartment people unlike most single driver subs.
Was looking for a clean setup for the living room, got this sub with a pair of Buchardt S400 + Sonos amp and two Ikea Symfonisk as surrounds and could not ask for more. This little SVS 3000 Micro is such a beast for its size.
I think my next sub is going to be svs just because of that app. When you're on your 4th back surgery you don't have the ability to fiddle with settings and unfortunately that's what I like to do. I see you have a new addition to the wall, looks good hanging up there. I really enjoy this channel, congratulations again on such a monumental achievement.
Don't forget the Sunfire sub, it started the whole genre in the mid to late 90"s. I worked at a HIFi shop at the time and Sunfire had a deal where if you sold 12 subs you got a free unit.....I sold hundreds. Got so many free subs that I started to donate them to my friends. Good Times
Thank you for mentioning Sunfire.. I buy broken ones on eBay and fix them. I would put any Sunfire sub against any higher end sub nowadays. They are unmatched.
So they were being sold for 1/12th more than what would have been an already over priced amount... That being said - I should have tried to make some friends that worked at hi-fi shops.
I intend to add the SVS Micro 3000 to my PSB Alpha IQ’s that I’m putting in my family room as I have begun replacing my Sonos kit, starting in that room. Already put a Pulse Flex 2i in the kitchen area in the room (inverted under cabinet, in the corner). I’ll have the IQ’s on either side of the fireplace. Can’t wait to hear this upgrade.
Great video as usual! I'll refrain from sharing the 43 childish comments that my wife and I came up with about small packages and how far things "stick out" into the room, because I'm a mature adult... I was being sarcastic, where did u kearn that, I learned it by watching you!
I bought 3 SVS SB-1000 Pro's for my large tall living room and couldn't be happier. When friends come over I play bass heavy "hippidy dip" to show them off and they all say it feels like a car audio system. Lol
You brought up a good point about bookshelf vs big speakers. That SVS 3000 Micro looks like a good candidate for a desktop computer work station sound system.
Awesome review man! Discovering this brand introduced me to the world of "real" deep bass capable subs. Ditching my overpriced Klipsch subs that could barely manage 35hz (for PB-1000 pros) was the best and most fruitful investment I've made in this hobby in a looong time. Love how you've grown the channel! One of the best parts of this hobby is that joy of discovering new things and this channel really has that feel. I can't wait for you to get the home theater itch 😆
I couldn't say Rel 3 times in a row really fast but my neighbor's dog had no problem. I hate that dog. This was an excellent video. I have been in a tizzy for some time over which sub to buy. This was a big help. Way to go Chief!
Some months ago I got a truly micro sub, Cambridge audio Minx X201, which is quite good value in my opinion. For us in small spaces, I think it adds a lot of richness to a stereo setup at a very low cost. Not that many meaningful reviews here in RUclips and would be cool to hear you impressions. Awesome channel!
Had that sub myself. Not very musically accurate or quick. It had a lot of rumble and seemed geared more for HT explosions than notes from a string bass. Passive radiator subs like the minx are like that however.
REL should send you the tzero or t5x. Fits into the micro sub and still somewhat budget. I'm using a pair of t7x and they're refined. No bloat or slam, just a smooth, rolling and fast textured bass. I also like kicky slammy bass for some music, the likes of JL audio W7s in my car. But I'm in a shared wall townhome and there's just no freaking way I could not piss off my neighbors more than with some JL subs. I was even concerned with SVS as I know they too can kick and slam and attack far above their price. If you're looking to hear all the bass with superb sound quality and integration the REL should be checked out!
Don't buy a REL without running frequency sweeps through it first. My 12" REL couldn't play anything below 32 Hz without it turning into a distorted mess with a honking resonance at about 85 Hz regardless of the source frequency below 32 Hz. So you play 25 Hz and get a distorted 85 Hz honk as output. Returned it, ponyed up and bought an SVS SB16, and never looked back. Better in every way.
I hope REL send you something soon, because IMHO their subs are very good. I got my REL T0 Mk II brand new at an end-of-line sale (they were replaced by the Mk III) for the princely sum of £249 ($312) here in the UK. It is tiny (roughly a 9" cube), but sounds way beyond what its size would suggest. Even the current replacement, the Mk III, is only £449 ($563) in the UK. To be fair, the REL Mk III may be a bit more expensive in the US, but the same goes in reverse for the SVS Micro -- £979 ($1228) in the UK. The SVS may have an app, but the REL is very versatile in that it has several different input types, including the high-level one I use, employing a (supplied) Neutrik cable fed direct from my hi-fi amp's speaker terminals (as REL recommends). You can simultaneously use an AV amp's LFE sub output too -- if, like me, you have a separate AV amp and two sets of front speakers. Maybe, with ingenuity, you could drive the one set of front speakers from both hi-fi and AV sources, both using the sub, though I haven't tried that. For me, AV use is very much secondary to hi-fi. A £200 pair of speakers is good enough for the AV fronts, but I use a pair costing 5 times as much (or 6.5 times as much if you didn't manage to get them in a sale!) for hi-fi. You can set the REL to go into standby (< 3 watts) after 15 mins without a signal if you want, which I do because I don't want to have to switch it off after a listening session. I haven't heard the SVS Micro, and who knows, it may sound better, but I'd never pay the asking price even if it did. For the same price as the SVS I got both the REL and my Earmen Tradutto DAC (which some prefer to the Denafrips Aries).
I had one those cheap SVS cables connecting my node 2i and tube dac. One day my dac stopped playing only 192k songs. Swapped out that same cable with a better cable and it fixed the problem. Strange but true!
Last year I bought an SVS SB-1000, then 6 months later SVS introduced the SB-1000 Pro. With SVS you can upgrade within a year and get full credit, but have to pay for shipping costs. So after contacting SVS and sending the requested photos, two SVS SB-1000 Pro were sent to me. I sent the SB-1000 back a week later. So much happier with a 2.2 system. I have Magnepan 1.7i 😊
@@orwhat24 two Crown Audio XLS-1002 in bridged mode with a Schiit Audio Freya+ preamp. My system was featured as the "Audiophiliac Viewer System of the Day" on the March 25, 2022 show. I've since upgraded to a Schiit Bifrost 2 DAC.
Upate: I've upgraded to two SVS 3000 Micros. Found two in the SVS Outlet store for $620 each. Definitely hit harder and deeper than the dual SB1000 Pros.
I'm gonna be honest. The only reason I purchased the SB3000 Micro was because I thought it would be funny paired up to the Magnat Transpuls 1500's.... I find it humorous, anyway. Blends well, and is wicked easy to dial in. And you don't even have to get out of the chair. Even if you need it just for those 20 hard to hammer Hz.
Hey Big Randy - I was sub shopping last month and picked up the REL TZero over the SVS. I paired them with a set of Kef Q150's - Bangin'. That high level output (speakon) connector makes a huge difference. Cheers!
Glad to see you reviewing quality compact subs. They're a great compliment to bookshelf speakers, filling out the sound without adding bloat. Love the channel amigo. Keep grinding!
The SVS micro looks cool, but I agree, 2 SVS SB1000 pro subs would be a better choice. As for me I actually ordered 1 SB 1000 pro initially for a modest home theater application, but had to send it back to SVS because I realized by going sealed I needed another SB1000 pro to get a deeper impact in movies. Music on the other hand, the SB 1000 performance was its strong point. SVS has such great customer service, they let me send it back and I tried out the PB1000 pro this time…and for movies-wow! No comparison. If I had unlimited funds, I would like 2 sealed SB1000 pro’s for music, and maybe 1 for theater stuff. But for now since I’m a CheapAudioConsumerDude, the PB1000 pro is as good as I can afford. At least if you ask SVS they ship the PB1000 pro with those Squishy foam plugs…and yeah love the App-wow what a game changer.
Great Zoom call last night! I ordered the Emotiva A2m today AND (you are correct!) I got a military discount. If any of your channel subscribers are on the fence about it, I got a lot out of last night’s Zoom call and I think I’m only scratching the surface.
SVS sub is double the price in my country for some reason ,while REL has only slight increment in price. Taking in account for the high customs duty in my country that bump in price is normal. I can buy 2 REL T5x for the price of one SVS 3000 micro.😅
Get the SVS wireless pro prime or prime pro or...anyway - I am amazed by the things - exciting sound, clear not harsh on the treble, dynamics not manufactured by a U shaped output - just seemingly transparent and detailed. They also have a sweet tight bass sound - and I want more of that, and I hope this thing does the trick. A REL t/5x would probably be great, but I'm thinking I want detail and integration, but an occasional kick in the nads. SVS seems very good at that.
I had the SB3000 Pro and after a few weeks, returned it. I did not like how the SVS sounded. It was EXTREMELY powerful (especially for it's compact size), but it seemed to overpower music, even after adjusting settings. I have a much cheaper SE8 that, to my ears, sounded better
Put them next to your seat and the sound level will be next level. The size allows that flexibility without moving up to coffee table size sub. Dual drivers should be good for that too. App supports several subs also?
I have one SB3000 it is incredible! Start with one you probably won't need a second. This thing shakes the walls in a family room that is open to a large space.
I would Love to see the Sith Audio file for audiophiles. So they have someplace to file all the owner manuals for there gear ! Lol Love this Channel Randy!
I like a small subwoofer such as this because I just don't want something the size of a coffee table in a sub sitting on the floor. Unlike you I prefer a floor standing speaker, so I'm already using a lot of floor space and small works better for me. I have just never heard stand mount speakers that have the sense of scale a good floor stander has. Maybe they are out there, but I haven't heard them.
The SB-1000 is legendary and super reliable. Used it in my office for several years. Has amazing punch 👊 but also manages to blend in well with the main speakers.
KEF kc62 is a better subwoofer. The svs sb3000 micro does not dig sub 30 hz. I auditioned both subs in stereo (2 subs) and returned the svs. Bass quality and articulation in kef is on another level and imo, it is worth the price.
Where have you guys placed your sub? I’ve settled for nearish field on the same plane as the speakers. Found this best for music rather than in the corner which I found too boomy. Out front, the bass is tighter
The micro probably would have made my wife happier, but the PB 1000 pro is in the basement. It's in "my" side of the room. The app is amazing, and that alone made it worth it over the non pro 1000.
I've been considering purchasing a pair of these for a while now for my small 13 x 11 listening space. I have a pair of REL T5/i subs with 8" drivers in boxes because they had a hum that I could never get rid of and they drove me crazy. They were the right size for my space, so I suspect the SVS Micro's would work very well too. The bonus with the SVS is the app, and if they don't hum. (I have a pair of Tekton M-Lore floorstanders but I'd like some more bass).
Did you ever contact rel? My t7 pair had a slight amount (not audible unless you went right up to the driver and put your head in front) and it went away completely with my new amp. If yours hum when the amp is off, though, you are somehow getting something bleeding into the speaker cable or ground loop that you may want to correct regardless of which sub you go with.
Thank you my good man for such a great review. It really stinks that RUclips has the option to like or dislike your videos turned off I will always like your videos Cuz you’re cool dude
I can’t help but wonder when SVS is going to add automatic subwoofer integration in the app on at least the iPhone. Theoretically, it can be extended to all phones by including a microphone evaluation/calibration feature in the app. Heck, there are many subwoofer tone generator and spectrum analyzer apps out there. Why not integrate those into the SVS app? With this, you could get 90% of the way to perfection. My guess is that they are already working on it.
Do it! I just bought ( and fixed) my first subwoofer ($50) and what a world of difference! I don't have to try modifying my speakers any longer! Now I want to buy more of them for the other system.
Since the subs fire out the side is it going to be bad if it sits next to something like my tv stand? I currently have a aSB1000 and def tech 800’s and curious if it’s worth the upgrade. Really like the app feature.
If you ever get a chance to compare a REL to an SVS you will immediately notice the REL has a flatter response. It's amazing what it'll do for music. It's hard to make it sound "boomy." That said they sound anemic for movies. REL's just don't offer that widow rattling bass presence like most subwoofers do. IMO they both have their strengths but they are in different areas.
A little birdie that owns a KC62 and a pair of Micro 3000's told me that the KC62 obliterates the pair of Micro 3000's for low level listening. It has more extension and detail retrieval at lower levels.
Didnt knew SB1000pro was Your recommendation oh audioman, picked it up few weeks ago, happy, but sealed sub is somewhat new to me, so I need to setup it right, I guess
Good review, cool product. Probably worth the money if you can afford it. If you can't, there are other options. I really like my Schiit Loki, a little four band EQ that really makes a difference.
I would like to hear what the cheapaudioman thinks about the "classic" cheap for real Polk Audio PSW10. It's been around since "forever" and is still going strong. Is it good or just good because cheap?
Ayyy, I have one of those in my living room. Sounds great. They have overwhelmingly good reviews. Not the most super-ultra-deep couch shaking bass, but more like a no-frill, get the job done type of deal.
@@chrishernandez2490 I do not think I would be allowed putting an earth shattering sub in our living room. And I would NOT be allowed to spend $800 on one either! :)
Hey cyber buddy...think you're getting your Rel's mixed up with your RSL's. RSL makes the Speedwoofer. On another note; I bought RSL CG-23's and think they sound great with my FB marketplace Yamaha RX-A760 ($290 CHA-CHING). CG-23's were $200/ea, but discounted to $160/ea if you bought a few for HT. Maybe a worthwhile video topic. Also favorite SW choices to go with this small mixed music/HT system. I'm probably leaning towards 2 SE-8's, but also another good video topic, IMO.
Question I have small room like 12 X12 . Which subwoofer is better. I do movies both streaming, and physical media. I have a record player and will have a cd player at some. I would say music gaming would be 70% and 30 music. i am thinking about svs micro but I would not be able to get two right know.
I have a question, I’m trying to look for a small subwoofer that I can put into my Winnebago Revel to make music is a VERY small space (Mercedes Sprinter Van 144). I have a pair of PreSonus Eris E4.5 “studio monitors” and I’m trying to find a good sounding very compact subwoofer I can add to them and continue to make music in the van. PLEASE let me know if you have some suggestions, I’ve searched and had to come to you since you’re the guy! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Still rockin a BIC F12 i got on amazon $185 in 2013. Only 150 watt but it's not failed in anyway in all these years and SubEQ on the Onkyo 6100 made it better. Tempted by a SVS or HSu but am fearful of going sealed after having ported all these years. Monoprice M-12 THX is sale for $800 right now... Sounds serious at 112 Lbs. vs a 42 lb svsPB1000.
Just a imo thing. I had dual svs pb1000 and went to dual HSU VTF-2MK5 and Im glad i did. I know it is a sin but i think svs is overated in comparison to what HSU has. You could check out Randy review on Starke subwoofer as well. Their 15 is reasonably priced right now for what you get.
Or, just use towers + sub, which is nearly universally better than bookshelf’s + sub. Or, get towers with built in powered subs, a la Def Tech’s or GoldenEar’s or Infinity’s or Aperion’s etc
I'm looking for a super portable sub under 30 lbs to move around the house/backyard/park, with my small PA speakers which I would line out from. Playing outside is challenging and that is where I would need the most volume. I realize that piano gloss will scratch easily for this type of use but I'm super careful with my gear. I have a pair of Bose S1Pro's or a single EV Everse 8, I would pair it with. Both can play about 100dB max even though I don't push them to their limit. Would the SVS Micro keep up? I know it doesn't have the mid bass punch of a live PA sub. I'm looking for something to play tunes on that is super light weight and able to play audiophile music cleanly to about 25Hz. I wouldn't use this for any type of live performance. What do you think, is it worth the $900 investment?? I already have a SB3000 that I love, but that 50 lbs monster stays put in the Man Cave.
These small subwoofers are all about form over function, because for 900 bucks you can get so much more performance out of a 15-18" sub. So I like your initial comment because first and foremost - these are for people that want a SMALL sub and are willing to pay extra for more performance in that small package.
Perhaps true if you want the room to shake when you watch movies. But I heard that small subs, 8 - 10 inch will be faster than a 15 inch sub. So for music, I think smaller is better. I have a Rel t5x and I have the gain set to about a third to fill out the low end on my Elac ub52. So there is really no need for more power unless I had some huge speakers I think.
That's not really true. Think about it - nobody with a really high end system where space is not an issue is choosing to limit the drivers in their subs to 8" because they're "faster".
@@redstang5150 There are people who stack 2 or 3 Rel subs with 12 inch beside each speaker. At $5500 a piece that must be condidered high end. Of course there are probably very fast high end subs that have big driver size, with powerful amplification and perhaps some tech that helps the membrane to move faster. It doesnt mean that a $800 18 inch sub will be as fast as a $800 10 inch sub.
Great review Randy, and what your telling me is this SVS Micro Subwoofer is smaller than my Proel Flash15 subwoofer (17" x 22" x 24" 70lbs)? Does that also mean my girlfriend won't think it's a end table too?
Nice job with the content! Found myself diving into audio gear in 2020 and man if it didn’t take hold and burn through some bucks! I’m currently running this SVS 3000 micro with the Parasound NewClassic 200 integrated and the Monitor Audio Silver 100 7G’s. If you have the chance to check out the MA Silver 100 7G’s, I’d be interested in your impression. I know they might push the “cheapaudio” line. Enjoy the journey!
When I first seen this I thought oops the cheapaudioman must have dropped it because of the dent in the grill. Then I seen the other grill was the same LOL. Very neat little sub though the price is a bit steep for me.
Hey Randy great video as usual! Does the Micro only come in glossy finish? I have the Wharfedale Lintons and I am looking for a sub just to capture more low end. Thanks!!
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Yeah, cheap audio man no longer talks about why audio equipments shouldn’t cost more than new pavement for a kitchen floor, he instead talks about and advertises overly expensive “hi-fi” equipment. I miss the old Randy. He didn’t make silly faces for his thumbnails and he didn’t act like a teenage youtuber.
SVS products seem SO overpriced when compared to the MKII and VTF lines... BUT can't argue with this 11" sff design, so sleek with impressive performance!
I bought a Solid PB100 (a re-badged B&W) at a yard sale for $7. It's not going to blast you out of your chair but it is more friendly to music...and did I mention it was $7?
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Is there a price threshold on a product where you start doing B role? haha. I swear the fancy products get nicer B role.
Randy, when is Sith Audio Production coming out with the Audiophile Workout VHS?
I have 299 save up for it and getting anxiety that I might hurt tapping foot before I get the audiophile work out routine
Not to mention the Sith Audio Heavy Metal Headphones made of audiophile tungsten is above my weight class
So release the Sith Audio Production Audiophile Workout VHS, buy two get a free Audiophile sweatband at only 299 already!!!!
You should also ask your viewers to help you report and take down scammer accounts impersonating you. To try and help you keep your channel a safe place from scammers. They also got me. Thinking it was you bc they are using your photo and user name.
@@Error_NeocrtexUserNotFoundOffi I’m adding more and more comment moderators
@@cheapaudioman I reported the users account atleast 12x from my end from my interactions and interactions with others in your comments that he's trying to bait
I used to work with a speaker company in Seattle building their enclosures. As part of my 'payment' they gifted me a 8" one-off prototype subwoofer driver. I did the speaker math and built an enclosure for it and mother of God it was a beast. My normal subs for my home theater were 2 12" 350 watt powered in three feet tall enclosures. This little 8" with a crazy throw in a tiny enclosure (12x10x10ish) sounded better and equaled the house-vibrating of the two 12's. So smaller can definitely be better if done right.
I agree, my little 8" Audioengine sub pounds going down to 27hz so it's one of the best sounding subs i've ever heard
I absolutely love this angry lil sub in my 2.1 setup. SVS app keeps me in my chair when adjusting. Definitely recommend.
FYI: The SpeedWoofer is an RSL product, not REL. I wouldn't know this if I didn't research several of the smaller subs very recently, and I ended up getting the SVS SB-1000 Pro on sale over Memorial Day Weekend (great sub!).
I think randy knew exactly what he was doing with confusing the brands and models. Both rel and rsl have some budget options and they should both be sending review samples.
You can get 2 RSL Speedwoofers for the price of one micro. What pushed me in the RSL direction was that it had both LFE and speaker level connections that could be used simultaneously. Makes for a pretty versatile sub in terms of setup possibilities.
RSL speedwoofer 10s rules! Have 2 of them .🤟🤟🤟
@@Audiodreamer192-24 Me too! A 10S and a new 10S Mk II. Awesome.
@@erics.4113 RSL sells so many Speedwoofers they can't keep them in stock. Still, I wish Randy would review one. I have the Speedwoofer 10S MKii and it's great especially for the price.
I've never heard an SVS sub that I didn't love. I've got two hooked up right now. Even in a crowded market, their value + quality proposition remains extremely attractive
As a happy owner of an SVS PB 12 sub bought well over 10 years ago, I couldn't agree with you more on the value and quality of this company including an excellent customer service. My sub is fairly large, the settings were strictly manual, is used mostly for home theater, but some music too, SACD/Blu Ray/DVD music and in a very large room with cathedral ceilings and it does a great job. The cost was about $7-800.00 including taxes and shipping, truly great product.
Thanks for resurrecting your "vintage sponsor"!
I have the Micro 3000 paired with the Emo B1+'s and Loxjie A30 and absolutely love the sub with that setup
You buy a 3000 micro to prevent your SO from mean mugging you. Especially since the SB1000 pro has more output and the PB1000 pro is on a different level but is also huge in comparison. SVS might not always be the best performance per dollar but it's hard to argue with their warranty, customer service, and features (app mainly) all while you can pick one up from best buy. Although one thing is with the dual opposing drivers you essentially get zero vibrations which is great for apartment people unlike most single driver subs.
Was looking for a clean setup for the living room, got this sub with a pair of Buchardt S400 + Sonos amp and two Ikea Symfonisk as surrounds and could not ask for more.
This little SVS 3000 Micro is such a beast for its size.
I think my next sub is going to be svs just because of that app. When you're on your 4th back surgery you don't have the ability to fiddle with settings and unfortunately that's what I like to do.
I see you have a new addition to the wall, looks good hanging up there. I really enjoy this channel, congratulations again on such a monumental achievement.
Love those small little subs that deliver big bass
Don't forget the Sunfire sub, it started the whole genre in the mid to late 90"s. I worked at a HIFi shop at the time and Sunfire had a deal where if you sold 12 subs you got a free unit.....I sold hundreds. Got so many free subs that I started to donate them to my friends. Good Times
Thank you for mentioning Sunfire.. I buy broken ones on eBay and fix them. I would put any Sunfire sub against any higher end sub nowadays. They are unmatched.
So they were being sold for 1/12th more than what would have been an already over priced amount...
That being said - I should have tried to make some friends that worked at hi-fi shops.
Ya that’s a potent little beast! Maybe not the most articulate bass but for movies it can kick ass for a 8” sub in a tiny box.✌️🤟🔊
I intend to add the SVS Micro 3000 to my PSB Alpha IQ’s that I’m putting in my family room as I have begun replacing my Sonos kit, starting in that room. Already put a Pulse Flex 2i in the kitchen area in the room (inverted under cabinet, in the corner). I’ll have the IQ’s on either side of the fireplace. Can’t wait to hear this upgrade.
They are best for music. Same with all sealed subs. They look great with bookshelves
Great video as usual!
I'll refrain from sharing the 43 childish comments that my wife and I came up with about small packages and how far things "stick out" into the room, because I'm a mature adult...
I was being sarcastic, where did u kearn that, I learned it by watching you!
I bought 3 SVS SB-1000 Pro's for my large tall living room and couldn't be happier. When friends come over I play bass heavy "hippidy dip" to show them off and they all say it feels like a car audio system. Lol
You brought up a good point about bookshelf vs big speakers. That SVS 3000 Micro looks like a good candidate for a desktop computer work station sound system.
The 3000 Micro can pressurize a living room, so...
@@photobriangray So did a JL Audio Dominion d108 subwoofer that I heard not long ago. I was surprised.
Just got a SVS 1000 Pro delivered this week (Memorial Day Sale). Love it.
I have the SB1000 Pro and, for my space, I can't imagine needing anything more.
Great review as always Randy.
Always a reason for multiple subs
@@DarrenBoxhall I live in an apartment, one sub is enough.
Awesome review man! Discovering this brand introduced me to the world of "real" deep bass capable subs. Ditching my overpriced Klipsch subs that could barely manage 35hz (for PB-1000 pros) was the best and most fruitful investment I've made in this hobby in a looong time. Love how you've grown the channel! One of the best parts of this hobby is that joy of discovering new things and this channel really has that feel. I can't wait for you to get the home theater itch 😆
I couldn't say Rel 3 times in a row really fast but my neighbor's dog had no problem. I hate that dog. This was an excellent video. I have been in a tizzy for some time over which sub to buy. This was a big help. Way to go Chief!
My Martin Logan 800x is 13.7 x 12.4 x 13.1 inches...fills a room very well and uses ARC room correction software...also only cost me about $600 new
Some months ago I got a truly micro sub, Cambridge audio Minx X201, which is quite good value in my opinion. For us in small spaces, I think it adds a lot of richness to a stereo setup at a very low cost. Not that many meaningful reviews here in RUclips and would be cool to hear you impressions. Awesome channel!
Had that sub myself. Not very musically accurate or quick. It had a lot of rumble and seemed geared more for HT explosions than notes from a string bass. Passive radiator subs like the minx are like that however.
Finding this channel has been a blessing. Awesome content.
REL should send you the tzero or t5x. Fits into the micro sub and still somewhat budget. I'm using a pair of t7x and they're refined. No bloat or slam, just a smooth, rolling and fast textured bass.
I also like kicky slammy bass for some music, the likes of JL audio W7s in my car. But I'm in a shared wall townhome and there's just no freaking way I could not piss off my neighbors more than with some JL subs. I was even concerned with SVS as I know they too can kick and slam and attack far above their price.
If you're looking to hear all the bass with superb sound quality and integration the REL should be checked out!
Great review! I used some Sith Audio wipes myself this morning. I got a deal. $99.
Some guys have all the luck
At that price they're losing money, Steve!
I knew someone with your name as a kid on LI. Could that be you?
@@kl9941 Jericho, White Birch?
@@stevezeidman7224 Holy S---. Yes. This is Kraig
Don't buy a REL without running frequency sweeps through it first. My 12" REL couldn't play anything below 32 Hz without it turning into a distorted mess with a honking resonance at about 85 Hz regardless of the source frequency below 32 Hz. So you play 25 Hz and get a distorted 85 Hz honk as output. Returned it, ponyed up and bought an SVS SB16, and never looked back. Better in every way.
I hope REL send you something soon, because IMHO their subs are very good. I got my REL T0 Mk II brand new at an end-of-line sale (they were replaced by the Mk III) for the princely sum of £249 ($312) here in the UK.
It is tiny (roughly a 9" cube), but sounds way beyond what its size would suggest. Even the current replacement, the Mk III, is only £449 ($563) in the UK. To be fair, the REL Mk III may be a bit more expensive in the US, but the same goes in reverse for the SVS Micro -- £979 ($1228) in the UK.
The SVS may have an app, but the REL is very versatile in that it has several different input types, including the high-level one I use, employing a (supplied) Neutrik cable fed direct from my hi-fi amp's speaker terminals (as REL recommends). You can simultaneously use an AV amp's LFE sub output too -- if, like me, you have a separate AV amp and two sets of front speakers.
Maybe, with ingenuity, you could drive the one set of front speakers from both hi-fi and AV sources, both using the sub, though I haven't tried that. For me, AV use is very much secondary to hi-fi. A £200 pair of speakers is good enough for the AV fronts, but I use a pair costing 5 times as much (or 6.5 times as much if you didn't manage to get them in a sale!) for hi-fi.
You can set the REL to go into standby (< 3 watts) after 15 mins without a signal if you want, which I do because I don't want to have to switch it off after a listening session.
I haven't heard the SVS Micro, and who knows, it may sound better, but I'd never pay the asking price even if it did. For the same price as the SVS I got both the REL and my Earmen Tradutto DAC (which some prefer to the Denafrips Aries).
I had one those cheap SVS cables connecting my node 2i and tube dac. One day my dac stopped playing only 192k songs. Swapped out that same cable with a better cable and it fixed the problem. Strange but true!
Svs return policy is great, but the upgrade program is phenomenal!
Last year I bought an SVS SB-1000, then 6 months later SVS introduced the SB-1000 Pro. With SVS you can upgrade within a year and get full credit, but have to pay for shipping costs. So after contacting SVS and sending the requested photos, two SVS SB-1000 Pro were sent to me. I sent the SB-1000 back a week later. So much happier with a 2.2 system. I have Magnepan 1.7i 😊
What are you powering all that air moving equipment with?
@@orwhat24 two Crown Audio XLS-1002 in bridged mode with a Schiit Audio Freya+ preamp. My system was featured as the "Audiophiliac Viewer System of the Day" on the March 25, 2022 show. I've since upgraded to a Schiit Bifrost 2 DAC.
Upate: I've upgraded to two SVS 3000 Micros. Found two in the SVS Outlet store for $620 each. Definitely hit harder and deeper than the dual SB1000 Pros.
I'm gonna be honest. The only reason I purchased the SB3000 Micro was because I thought it would be funny paired up to the Magnat Transpuls 1500's.... I find it humorous, anyway. Blends well, and is wicked easy to dial in. And you don't even have to get out of the chair. Even if you need it just for those 20 hard to hammer Hz.
Hey Big Randy - I was sub shopping last month and picked up the REL TZero over the SVS. I paired them with a set of Kef Q150's - Bangin'. That high level output (speakon) connector makes a huge difference. Cheers!
Glad to see you reviewing quality compact subs. They're a great compliment to bookshelf speakers, filling out the sound without adding bloat. Love the channel amigo. Keep grinding!
The SVS micro looks cool, but I agree, 2 SVS SB1000 pro subs would be a better choice. As for me I actually ordered 1 SB 1000 pro initially for a modest home theater application, but had to send it back to SVS because I realized by going sealed I needed another SB1000 pro to get a deeper impact in movies. Music on the other hand, the SB 1000 performance was its strong point. SVS has such great customer service, they let me send it back and I tried out the PB1000 pro this time…and for movies-wow! No comparison. If I had unlimited funds, I would like 2 sealed SB1000 pro’s for music, and maybe 1 for theater stuff. But for now since I’m a CheapAudioConsumerDude, the PB1000 pro is as good as I can afford. At least if you ask SVS they ship the PB1000 pro with those Squishy foam plugs…and yeah love the App-wow what a game changer.
Just purchased 2 of these subs. Cant wait to hook them up. Once i fly home in a week.
Great Zoom call last night! I ordered the Emotiva A2m today AND (you are correct!) I got a military discount.
If any of your channel subscribers are on the fence about it, I got a lot out of last night’s Zoom call and I think I’m only scratching the surface.
Thanks for joining our little community, Steve. The weekly Zoom events are truly a unique aspect of CAM Patronage.
Again, welcome, Steve!
Steve Martin in The Jerk had a “special purpose”. I don’t remember him talking about needing a subwoofer though…
That movie was hilarious! Some of Steve’s best work. The dirt bike skank at the circus was scary 🤮🤣🤣
@@Audiodreamer192-24 I just need, this lamp, this paddle ball, this thermos and this SVS subwoofer…
@@RJ_Chicago 🤣🤣🤣
an ashtray, a paddleball set, a lamp, a chair, the thermos..yeah - no subwoofer. hmmm
SVS sub is double the price in my country for some reason ,while REL has only slight increment in price. Taking in account for the high customs duty in my country that bump in price is normal.
I can buy 2 REL T5x for the price of one SVS 3000 micro.😅
Get the SVS wireless pro prime or prime pro or...anyway - I am amazed by the things - exciting sound, clear not harsh on the treble, dynamics not manufactured by a U shaped output - just seemingly transparent and detailed. They also have a sweet tight bass sound - and I want more of that, and I hope this thing does the trick. A REL t/5x would probably be great, but I'm thinking I want detail and integration, but an occasional kick in the nads. SVS seems very good at that.
I will stick with my emotiva SE8 for my desk setup and my SE12 for my HT setup. They do everything I need them to especially at this price point.
I had the SB3000 Pro and after a few weeks, returned it. I did not like how the SVS sounded. It was EXTREMELY powerful (especially for it's compact size), but it seemed to overpower music, even after adjusting settings. I have a much cheaper SE8 that, to my ears, sounded better
Put them next to your seat and the sound level will be next level. The size allows that flexibility without moving up to coffee table size sub. Dual drivers should be good for that too. App supports several subs also?
Nearfield sub placement is a secret many buyers know nothing about.
Dual 1000pro vs Dual 3000 micro vs SB 3000. Which would you choose for a small room?
I have one SB3000 it is incredible! Start with one you probably won't need a second. This thing shakes the walls in a family room that is open to a large space.
I would Love to see the Sith Audio file for audiophiles. So they have someplace to file all the owner manuals for there gear ! Lol
Love this Channel Randy!
Mentioned in your video review..but REL and RSL Speedwoofer 10 are two different companies. I can see where the confusion comes with similar names.
Take a look at rythmik audio, very well regarded subs. Congratulations on passing the 100k subscriber threshold
I like a small subwoofer such as this because I just don't want something the size of a coffee table in a sub sitting on the floor. Unlike you I prefer a floor standing speaker, so I'm already using a lot of floor space and small works better for me. I have just never heard stand mount speakers that have the sense of scale a good floor stander has. Maybe they are out there, but I haven't heard them.
Kef R3
My sb1000 is the most important component I've added to my system. So I don't doubt that this one is also awesome.
The SB-1000 is legendary and super reliable. Used it in my office for several years. Has amazing punch 👊 but also manages to blend in well with the main speakers.
8:16 10 out 10 chiropractors recommend sleeping on a subwoofer. They are not audiophiles.
KEF kc62 is a better subwoofer. The svs sb3000 micro does not dig sub 30 hz. I auditioned both subs in stereo (2 subs) and returned the svs. Bass quality and articulation in kef is on another level and imo, it is worth the price.
Would love to see you get your hands on a Rythmik Audio L12 subwoofer - Rythmik is another direct-to-consumer US based shop (Texas I think?)
Where have you guys placed your sub?
I’ve settled for nearish field on the same plane as the speakers. Found this best for music rather than in the corner which I found too boomy. Out front, the bass is tighter
I havent even watched it yet, but have been saying for this as we Both have the SB100 Pro then I got the micro, she's a beast!
The micro probably would have made my wife happier, but the PB 1000 pro is in the basement. It's in "my" side of the room. The app is amazing, and that alone made it worth it over the non pro 1000.
How do they compare?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz the 3000 micro sound way better and is faster.
The PB1000pro as more impact on the body but also dirtiest in terms of sound quality
I use a car audio stuff in my home system, Kicker square solobaric in a BIG box, and kicker amp powered by computer power supply.
Ooooooh! CAM reviewing an SVS product! I am excite!
I've been considering purchasing a pair of these for a while now for my small 13 x 11 listening space. I have a pair of REL T5/i subs with 8" drivers in boxes because they had a hum that I could never get rid of and they drove me crazy. They were the right size for my space, so I suspect the SVS Micro's would work very well too. The bonus with the SVS is the app, and if they don't hum. (I have a pair of Tekton M-Lore floorstanders but I'd like some more bass).
Did you ever contact rel? My t7 pair had a slight amount (not audible unless you went right up to the driver and put your head in front) and it went away completely with my new amp.
If yours hum when the amp is off, though, you are somehow getting something bleeding into the speaker cable or ground loop that you may want to correct regardless of which sub you go with.
I am in the UK and the Rel Quake is a nice 8 inch subwoofer.
Thank you my good man for such a great review. It really stinks that RUclips has the option to like or dislike your videos turned off I will always like your videos Cuz you’re cool dude
RSL makes the speedwoofer. Rel makes fantastic subs. Svs does as well. They are different sounds.
I can’t help but wonder when SVS is going to add automatic subwoofer integration in the app on at least the iPhone. Theoretically, it can be extended to all phones by including a microphone evaluation/calibration feature in the app. Heck, there are many subwoofer tone generator and spectrum analyzer apps out there. Why not integrate those into the SVS app? With this, you could get 90% of the way to perfection.
My guess is that they are already working on it.
I have yet to add a subwoofer to any of my systems. I'm sure any SVS subwoofer would elevate my listening experience! Thanks Randy. 👍
Do it! I just bought ( and fixed) my first subwoofer ($50) and what a world of difference! I don't have to try modifying my speakers any longer! Now I want to buy more of them for the other system.
Your main speakers will perform better when relieved of the task of trying to reproduce the lowest frequencies. Truth.
@@branislavbanar752 I have to overthink it a few dozen times then I will purchase one. Hahaha😄
@@Ratboy1 Thanks Mark! I will get one eventually.
I was told by svs that you don't even need to mess with the app. If you have a receiver, stick to the defaults 120.
Since the subs fire out the side is it going to be bad if it sits next to something like my tv stand? I currently have a aSB1000 and def tech 800’s and curious if it’s worth the upgrade. Really like the app feature.
I bought a pair of SVS SB-16 ultra subwoofers.
You should've gave nemo a shout out, a bit of love he is the sub man.
If you ever get a chance to compare a REL to an SVS you will immediately notice the REL has a flatter response. It's amazing what it'll do for music. It's hard to make it sound "boomy." That said they sound anemic for movies. REL's just don't offer that widow rattling bass presence like most subwoofers do. IMO they both have their strengths but they are in different areas.
A little birdie that owns a KC62 and a pair of Micro 3000's told me that the KC62 obliterates the pair of Micro 3000's for low level listening. It has more extension and detail retrieval at lower levels.
Didnt knew SB1000pro was Your recommendation oh audioman, picked it up few weeks ago, happy, but sealed sub is somewhat new to me, so I need to setup it right, I guess
Love this sub. Goes perfect with my Klipsch The Fives. Great review!
Good review, cool product. Probably worth the money if you can afford it. If you can't, there are other options. I really like my Schiit Loki, a little four band EQ that really makes a difference.
I would like to hear what the cheapaudioman thinks about the "classic" cheap for real Polk Audio PSW10. It's been around since "forever" and is still going strong. Is it good or just good because cheap?
Yes
Ayyy, I have one of those in my living room. Sounds great. They have overwhelmingly good reviews. Not the most super-ultra-deep couch shaking bass, but more like a no-frill, get the job done type of deal.
@@chrishernandez2490 I do not think I would be allowed putting an earth shattering sub in our living room. And I would NOT be allowed to spend $800 on one either! :)
@@cdysthe that makes 2 of us brotha 😂, heck I wouldn't WANT to spend $800 on a sub
Yeah well said about the SVS with your phone.
Hey cyber buddy...think you're getting your Rel's mixed up with your RSL's. RSL makes the Speedwoofer. On another note; I bought RSL CG-23's and think they sound great with my FB marketplace Yamaha RX-A760 ($290 CHA-CHING).
CG-23's were $200/ea, but discounted to $160/ea if you bought a few for HT. Maybe a worthwhile video topic. Also favorite SW choices to go with this small mixed music/HT system. I'm probably leaning towards 2 SE-8's, but also another good video topic, IMO.
Darn you. 😀. The local hi fi shop thanks you for the pair of 3000 micros they just sold me. My ears thank you and SVS but still... Darn you.
Musical, nice features, deep bass and punches way above its cabinet size. Confirmation bias giving you a view for your stats.
Question I have small room like 12 X12 . Which subwoofer is better. I do movies both streaming, and physical media. I have a record player and will have a cd player at some. I would say music gaming would be 70% and 30 music. i am thinking about svs micro but I would not be able to get two right know.
Hi thanks for u video which sub svs 2000 pro or svs 3000 micro you recommend with my klipsch fives ??
I have a question, I’m trying to look for a small subwoofer that I can put into my Winnebago Revel to make music is a VERY small space (Mercedes Sprinter Van 144). I have a pair of PreSonus Eris E4.5 “studio monitors” and I’m trying to find a good sounding very compact subwoofer I can add to them and continue to make music in the van.
PLEASE let me know if you have some suggestions, I’ve searched and had to come to you since you’re the guy! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
For movie use you recommend a small to medium room but not a large room. How would you define those different size ranges in sq ft?
Just get the new RSL Speedwoofer, it's alot cheaper and not that much bigger....
I wonder how this would compare with a Paradigm Seismic 110?
I have the micro 3000 and love it....
ok I don't think I know how to do that
ahhhh its a scam.....thanks for the heads up.
Still rockin a BIC F12 i got on amazon $185 in 2013. Only 150 watt but it's not failed in anyway in all these years and SubEQ on the Onkyo 6100 made it better. Tempted by a SVS or HSu but am fearful of going sealed after having ported all these years. Monoprice M-12 THX is sale for $800 right now... Sounds serious at 112 Lbs. vs a 42 lb svsPB1000.
Just a imo thing. I had dual svs pb1000 and went to dual HSU VTF-2MK5 and Im glad i did. I know it is a sin but i think svs is overated in comparison to what HSU has. You could check out Randy review on Starke subwoofer as well. Their 15 is reasonably priced right now for what you get.
Or, just use towers + sub, which is nearly universally better than bookshelf’s + sub. Or, get towers with built in powered subs, a la Def Tech’s or GoldenEar’s or Infinity’s or Aperion’s etc
I'm looking for a super portable sub under 30 lbs to move around the house/backyard/park, with my small PA speakers which I would line out from. Playing outside is challenging and that is where I would need the most volume. I realize that piano gloss will scratch easily for this type of use but I'm super careful with my gear.
I have a pair of Bose S1Pro's or a single EV Everse 8, I would pair it with. Both can play about 100dB max even though I don't push them to their limit.
Would the SVS Micro keep up? I know it doesn't have the mid bass punch of a live PA sub. I'm looking for something to play tunes on that is super light weight and able to play audiophile music cleanly to about 25Hz.
I wouldn't use this for any type of live performance. What do you think, is it worth the $900 investment?? I already have a SB3000 that I love, but that 50 lbs monster stays put in the Man Cave.
These small subwoofers are all about form over function, because for 900 bucks you can get so much more performance out of a 15-18" sub. So I like your initial comment because first and foremost - these are for people that want a SMALL sub and are willing to pay extra for more performance in that small package.
Perhaps true if you want the room to shake when you watch movies. But I heard that small subs, 8 - 10 inch will be faster than a 15 inch sub. So for music, I think smaller is better. I have a Rel t5x and I have the gain set to about a third to fill out the low end on my Elac ub52. So there is really no need for more power unless I had some huge speakers I think.
That's not really true. Think about it - nobody with a really high end system where space is not an issue is choosing to limit the drivers in their subs to 8" because they're "faster".
@@redstang5150 There are people who stack 2 or 3 Rel subs with 12 inch beside each speaker. At $5500 a piece that must be condidered high end. Of course there are probably very fast high end subs that have big driver size, with powerful amplification and perhaps some tech that helps the membrane to move faster. It doesnt mean that a $800 18 inch sub will be as fast as a $800 10 inch sub.
15 - 18" is a joke - nothing less than 28 - 47. is worth sh*te. My cat's head exploded, but I didn't really like him.
I have a dual SVS SB 1000 pro some people telling me it’s better to get 10” subwoofer for two channels music what do you think?
Would this be an improvement over a ml dynamo 700?
Great review Randy, and what your telling me is this SVS Micro Subwoofer is smaller than my Proel Flash15 subwoofer (17" x 22" x 24" 70lbs)? Does that also mean my girlfriend won't think it's a end table too?
That is correct
Nice job with the content! Found myself diving into audio gear in 2020 and man if it didn’t take hold and burn through some bucks! I’m currently running this SVS 3000 micro with the Parasound NewClassic 200 integrated and the Monitor Audio Silver 100 7G’s. If you have the chance to check out the MA Silver 100 7G’s, I’d be interested in your impression. I know they might push the “cheapaudio” line. Enjoy the journey!
B&W make a similar dual-8 compact sub, but it's like 3x the price of this, so it's probably academic to compare them.
I love this sub! I actually use it both at my desk with a pair of UniFi 2.0 Reference and in my home theater (as a pair) and it's great!
When I first seen this I thought oops the cheapaudioman must have dropped it because of the dent in the grill. Then I seen the other grill was the same LOL. Very neat little sub though the price is a bit steep for me.
Hey Randy great video as usual! Does the Micro only come in glossy finish? I have the Wharfedale Lintons and I am looking for a sub just to capture more low end. Thanks!!
Yeah, cheap audio man no longer talks about why audio equipments shouldn’t cost more than new pavement for a kitchen floor, he instead talks about and advertises overly expensive “hi-fi” equipment. I miss the old Randy. He didn’t make silly faces for his thumbnails and he didn’t act like a teenage youtuber.
SVS products seem SO overpriced when compared to the MKII and VTF lines... BUT can't argue with this 11" sff design, so sleek with impressive performance!
They’re sealed 1000 Pro looks promising for music. I would want two of them though. LOL
Great content as usual! @cheapaudioman have you had a chance of trying sonus faber’s Gravis i and/or ii? I would love to hear your opinion on them
I bought a Solid PB100 (a re-badged B&W) at a yard sale for $7. It's not going to blast you out of your chair but it is more friendly to music...and did I mention it was $7?
I don't know if you will see this but I was a winner of the SVS powered speaker but have not received or heard from SVS just seeing if you had a update thanks