WHY do pro players ALWAYS RECALL BEFORE

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
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  • @teresaglennie2699
    @teresaglennie2699 Год назад +1399

    Hi everyone im Rogue's mum and im so proud of him. I love you Jake

  • @KizerRoll
    @KizerRoll Год назад +94

    i implemented this into my play and IMMEDIATELY started gapping people in mid lane allowing me to start snowballs more consistently, thanks for the breakdown coach.

  • @basod1
    @basod1 Год назад +275

    The best thing that puts you above others is that you explain the concept and you are then showing example after example. This really helps people!

  • @KurzedMetal
    @KurzedMetal Год назад +333

    I can see this channel blow up in the future, just keep releasing good content regularly

    • @CoachRogue
      @CoachRogue  Год назад +22

      Thank you that's what I'm hoping for :)

  • @CoachRogue
    @CoachRogue  Год назад +76

    Hey I've noticed lots of people commenting with questions such as asking if this applies to botlane as well / what game time does botlane gets 6? So I thought I'd answer that all here!
    It's pretty much impossible to predict when botlane will get lvl 6, you have 2 people sharing XP and quite often one of them isn't there so there's a lot of variables meaning you can't predict it so don't stress too much about this.
    This 5:30 timer is still very important to botlane, if you have lvl 6 midlaners showing up with 1500gold in items and roaming to bot lane, and you're sitting under your tower low health from early trading with just a Dorans blade you are going to get walked over.
    Another thing to mention is that this timer is especially important for support, just like how Fnatic grouped 4 people mid (support and ADC included) at 5:30, roaming mid to make plays / unlock your midlaner on this timer is SUPER valuable.

    • @999fini
      @999fini Год назад +3

      pin this!

    • @CoachRogue
      @CoachRogue  Год назад +18

      @@999fini it was but my mum's reply was too cute it takes priority HAHHA

    • @999fini
      @999fini Год назад +1

      @@CoachRogue i hadnt seen it youre totally right :)

  • @shiro5157
    @shiro5157 Год назад +16

    content like this is what got me super excited to both play and think about fighting games when I was younger, absolutely love getting this in league

  • @Seven646
    @Seven646 Год назад +10

    Very good video, you can get a lot of knowledge from it. Finally I've learned something new. Most of "How to get good" videos talk about same basic things like "what is slowpush, what is freeze and etc."

  • @shotosuga3338
    @shotosuga3338 Год назад +18

    This channel is so underrated. These are the infos you would never hear otherwise!

  • @RedAstrals
    @RedAstrals Год назад +18

    wow that was very insightful! thank you! i really liked your explanations!

  • @nitram.9621
    @nitram.9621 Год назад +4

    I intuitively knew it just reading the title, but it is something else to understand it fully thanks to your thoughtful explanations. Great video!

  • @zookeeper2185
    @zookeeper2185 Год назад +6

    this is actually a crazy good video I see this benefitting alot of newer players wave management

  • @AlphaChopstick
    @AlphaChopstick Год назад +27

    This is such a great video. As a jg main whenever I play mid I have some difficulty finding a good timer for early base unless I get some kills, this will make taking towers pre 14 as Ziggs even easier!

    • @AngelosRitter
      @AngelosRitter Год назад

      try Hullbreaker Tristana in midlane, she wrecks the first turret within 15 seconds along her bomb and the second turret isnt far off dying easily too. she is a real turret destroyer at this point. at Demolish ontop and you got an Inhibitor pre 15

  • @aszriel_
    @aszriel_ Год назад +1

    Thanks a lot for these anlysis. It really helps understand many aspects we don't necessarily see by ourself.

  • @snowbird7254
    @snowbird7254 Год назад +4

    Love your explanation and examples for this. Subbed

  • @pimsleur4439
    @pimsleur4439 Год назад +3

    Love the simplicity of the explanation. Time to binge your channel 😅

  • @AS-kc4mg
    @AS-kc4mg Год назад +5

    nice its short and easy to follow with good reasoning, going to try this out

  • @katagami.
    @katagami. Год назад +2

    Thanks a lot, your channel will get the recognition it deserves :)!

  • @akeiri3296
    @akeiri3296 Год назад

    I just found your channel, watched this video, took a quick look at your other content and i know ill stay here for long, great job man, keep it up

  • @hypotheticalsinglewoody
    @hypotheticalsinglewoody Год назад +2

    First vid I've watched from you and I instantly subbed. 0 fluff, 100% content.

  • @eeeecca
    @eeeecca Год назад +4

    Woa
    this is actually pretty huge thanks!
    this will definitely help in snowballing harder :>

  • @vortraz2054
    @vortraz2054 Год назад +16

    REcall timings are still so interesting to me as a Dota player. Where I come from, we can just buy anywhere and have items brought to us by the chicken. In particular, we buy lots and lots of regen, and try to win trades in lane and force our enemies off of farm by threatening to kill them back to back to back, we do ALOT of brawling as a result of our remote access to core early items and healing. The result of this is that the safe consistent heroes are picked constantly, and the high skill expression heroes are for players that specialize in their micro mechanics and are CONFIDENT that they can stand their ground and compete for farm in a delicate battle of spacing and APM contest with little room for error. Any player who has a respectable track record as a MEEPO picker, isnt really someone that you can beat by flipping coins and taking risks.

    • @dazeen9591
      @dazeen9591 Год назад +4

      What? You got delivery chickens to bring you items? So they're delayed?
      Does this mean you can steal another player's items if you steal/kill the chicken?

    • @FunAnimalFactsToday
      @FunAnimalFactsToday Год назад +3

      ​@@dazeen9591if you kill the chicken, it has a respawn timer of a couple minutes. So you deny them their items for a little bit, and you get a small amount of gold.

  • @heh3135
    @heh3135 Год назад +2

    first vid i've seen from you. amazing examples and explanation, im only a casual player but damn this is huge in lower elos

  • @TheSuperskadoosh
    @TheSuperskadoosh Год назад +2

    this was actually realy informative. and i will be trying to apply this to my own games now ty.

  • @delroynathan7794
    @delroynathan7794 Год назад

    Enjoyed this! Liked and subscribed

  • @kylon1235
    @kylon1235 Год назад +2

    Wait this video is actually cracked wtf

  • @sandlewood7563
    @sandlewood7563 Год назад

    Great vid, haven't seen this really touched upon before.

  • @nametaken2537
    @nametaken2537 Год назад +2

    The fact I heard no one else mention this before is insane to me. Thanks.

    • @Frightning
      @Frightning Год назад

      Agreed, this is the kind of insight that make anyone a better player. Exactly the kind of stuff I still want to learn about LoL.

  • @JampClear
    @JampClear Год назад

    Beautiful video and explanation

  • @dappy8116
    @dappy8116 Год назад

    Very informative video. Thanks

  • @gabrieliuss8432
    @gabrieliuss8432 Год назад +3

    one of the best coaching i have seen on the internet , instead of advices like farm and don't die you get actualy strategy and recall timing strategy, never in few thousand hours have i thought about that and got my mind blown

    • @CoachRogue
      @CoachRogue  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much man I hope to hit a niche here with my advice and it seems to be working:)

    • @gabrieliuss8432
      @gabrieliuss8432 Год назад +1

      @fear no, i am gold 2 even with really good farm (8-11/min) don't climb, i think from gold rank you have to come up with what is working best for you, for me it's jungle role, because with any other role i feel like i have no map presence. Since i picked up jgl my lp gains went up a lot

  • @alvemaster3877
    @alvemaster3877 Год назад +15

    Also remember, if youre not toplane. This recall can win you the game. If you get this recall and the enemy doesnt, then you will get free dragon and a free dragon gets your team extreme value earlygame

  • @EternalTheHunterVT
    @EternalTheHunterVT Год назад

    I loved this video, ill see your progress man :D

  • @johnm741
    @johnm741 Год назад +1

    wow ive been playing for 10 years and didnt know about this. will try this on my game. thanks!

  • @mrboby2060
    @mrboby2060 Год назад

    Hi that's a cool video, I understand soo much things about Laning phase on this video, TY 😁

  • @scottsharwood9465
    @scottsharwood9465 Год назад +2

    Next level play...love it.

  • @carvo2561
    @carvo2561 Год назад

    Nice video! keep it up!!

  • @varelasensei
    @varelasensei Год назад

    Fantastic video. Subscribed

  • @robertharmon5799
    @robertharmon5799 Год назад +2

    These videos are sick. Could you do a video about how to gain control of the area around dragon pit before it spawns?

  • @freestylingwhistler
    @freestylingwhistler Год назад +2

    damn this was really helpful. i've "stomped" my lane pre 5:30 and then come back and wonder why my opponent suddenly is caught up in cs and a level up.

  • @aragustin
    @aragustin Год назад

    thank you, subscribed

  • @silentkaisei
    @silentkaisei Год назад +1

    This is actually really useful it feels obivous now after watching this

  • @EmergencyTaco2
    @EmergencyTaco2 Год назад +2

    Wow what a top notch video. Clear and concise while providing video examples of what's being taught. Earned a sub from me for sure.

  • @defskill9484
    @defskill9484 Год назад

    pretty amazing video!

  • @thebushgod853
    @thebushgod853 Год назад

    worth my sub, will try this out with my dup later ty

  • @dinastyx7414
    @dinastyx7414 Год назад +5

    Im a mastertier player and this is useful even for me. Thanks for the awsome vid!

  • @XAllelujahXxx
    @XAllelujahXxx Год назад

    That was the best video and explanation possible.

  • @SadMach1n3
    @SadMach1n3 Год назад

    great video !

  • @erlends2857
    @erlends2857 Год назад +7

    very nice and insightful video

  • @victor-oh
    @victor-oh Год назад

    This is actually game changing

  • @MangaGamified
    @MangaGamified Год назад +2

    Thanks! I'll use this in URF!

  • @TheNEXTGumayusi
    @TheNEXTGumayusi Год назад

    yo, been really liking all the content. Is there any chance we can get adc content anytime soon?

  • @IvarTheBoneless77
    @IvarTheBoneless77 Год назад

    This is absolutely MASSIVE info......

  • @wrenmichael2922
    @wrenmichael2922 Год назад +18

    Before i watch, im going to guess its because the 5:40 wave is typically your level 6

    • @CoachRogue
      @CoachRogue  Год назад +11

      That's one of a few factors:^)

    • @HappyGick
      @HappyGick Год назад

      I kinda figured that too, I thought it had to do something with the level 6 timer.

    • @AlphaChopstick
      @AlphaChopstick Год назад +1

      I think that the tower taking more damage post 5:30 is the real thing the use/abuse at least for me

  • @NaiyoGames
    @NaiyoGames Год назад +5

    Suchba great breakdown of what is happenning and why it is important. I am iron 4 (lmao I swear), havent played in years and now I am trying seriously. Will tell you how much this helped me tomorrow 😅

    • @rochoso
      @rochoso Год назад +1

      How did it go?

    • @NaiyoGames
      @NaiyoGames Год назад +2

      @@rochoso I suck so bad lmao. It does help with my timing for sure. I am still losing a lot 😅 It's fine, I will keep learning!!

  • @shawnandrews3231
    @shawnandrews3231 Год назад

    This is the single best tid bit of info I've gotten o help Change my game

  • @youngminyi8795
    @youngminyi8795 11 месяцев назад

    I have a habit that I go base before getting level 6 when I play Evelyn jungle and it is so good to know that the time that laner's hitting 6 is predictable

  • @compangit1524
    @compangit1524 Год назад

    good explanation buddy

  • @mitradite
    @mitradite Год назад +1

    Do you have any videos that go over map awareness and making it so that you look more at it since I mostly autopilot and forget a minimap exists.

  • @bruhitsbread
    @bruhitsbread Год назад +4

    Heya! Quick question, since most of the timers and stuff referred to in this video was on solo lanes: What time should the bot laners take their base? And what time/wave do we hit level 6?
    Thanks in advance, the video was great!

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z Год назад

      Bot laners can have level 6 by around 7:30 if you miss very little xp. Just barely in time to roam for herald with 6. But if you miss some xp you can get 6 by taking some xp on the mid wave

  • @miguelheredia4123
    @miguelheredia4123 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @DeinASDF
    @DeinASDF Год назад

    thx bro
    nice video

  • @Joeheatwave.
    @Joeheatwave. Год назад +1

    So wondering does this same strategy apply in wild riftand if so what would be the time to look out for?

  • @uque
    @uque 11 месяцев назад

    thank you :D

  • @plasticelephant1969
    @plasticelephant1969 Год назад +1

    My teammates watch these and now they start recalling in the middle of fights at 5:30

  • @jilmariojunior6243
    @jilmariojunior6243 Год назад

    insane video

  • @parallelwooju
    @parallelwooju Год назад +2

    hit diamond without actually playing around these.. makes you think how much we ignore about the game, very good content !

  • @levisonmalanga4900
    @levisonmalanga4900 Год назад

    so time is important in league. only played league since season 4 and still stuck. good info to know as a jungler (even though i'm terrible at jungle)

  • @violentgravy01
    @violentgravy01 Год назад +19

    I just die before 5:30. Easier than recalling.

  • @dan-xl4mg
    @dan-xl4mg Год назад

    Is this the same for botlane since you share exp? Im new so im curious

  • @carlosayllonbelmonte7712
    @carlosayllonbelmonte7712 Год назад +3

    I love ur content man! Can u pls do some for botlane and supps?

    • @CoachRogue
      @CoachRogue  Год назад

      I have a couple videos on support already there's a playlist on my channel for each role, but whenever i feel inspired for a role specific idea I'll be sure to :)

  • @bryanglover757
    @bryanglover757 11 месяцев назад

    High quality content

  • @mikevalencia1318
    @mikevalencia1318 Год назад

    tnx YT for putting this on my page. tnx coach rogue. the only tip I ever learned from watching shet loads of pro league plays are recall time for drag, hehe. Guess thats why im still stuck in Gold ahahaha

    • @mikevalencia1318
      @mikevalencia1318 Год назад

      having subbed to all these high elo players that uploads "twitch live" vods, just realized non of them has ever mentioned this 5:30 recall hit lvl6 wave/tower armor down. insane.

  • @TheNEXTGumayusi
    @TheNEXTGumayusi Год назад

    though is the same timer relevant for botlane or is min 8 more important since that's the timer when we get lvl 6?

  • @pureaut1sm
    @pureaut1sm Год назад +1

    BOY WHEN SUP SHOWS MID TO HELP EM' PUSH WAVE I FELT HOW TRUE FRIENDSHIP FELT LIKE I WISH SOLO QUEUE WAS LIKE THAT

  • @rasmusgarbonzo1411
    @rasmusgarbonzo1411 Год назад

    this is epic information

  • @Cielu1
    @Cielu1 Год назад

    Nice one

  • @bluenosaurus2720
    @bluenosaurus2720 Год назад

    I do. I recall every 2 min because of HP issue.

  • @wotizlove
    @wotizlove Год назад +1

    Ironically on the current iteration of azir I want to recall precisely after the 2nd cannon wave cuz that's when I have 850g for a wand if I don't get a kill prior lol

  • @UndeadBoogie
    @UndeadBoogie Год назад

    I am the definition of a scrub. Great advice like this makes me slightly less scrubby.

  • @rythm4964
    @rythm4964 Год назад +1

    So how do I execute this as a support? Do I just randomly go mid, start pushing the wave, get pinged off, and told to kill myself?

  • @LimeJ0SH
    @LimeJ0SH Год назад +1

    good guide man, ngl i knew turrets got weaker but i never clicked it to see buff.. i assumed it was as ther plates dropped it became weaker xD

  • @lignox7570
    @lignox7570 Год назад +1

    Great video ! I'm plat and i didn't knew about the importance of this timer, realy gonna help me become better, ty !

  • @SkritchB
    @SkritchB Год назад +1

    I also get ready for the 15.00 minute mark so me & my team can FF!

  • @ReadAloudRealm
    @ReadAloudRealm Год назад

    bro made a 1min video into 8 minutes, amazing

  • @Deathstroke24120
    @Deathstroke24120 Год назад

    Very interesting

  • @hanyuu8672
    @hanyuu8672 Год назад +5

    This is one of those things that should be in the in-game tutorial. Like, with an 8 minute video you're saving thousands and thousands of hours for someone to figure this out on their own, and that's assuming they are curious enough to try and figure out stuff in the game.

  • @SoraNeet
    @SoraNeet Год назад

    If i remember correctly botlane tower doesn't have that buff, u can take plates before min 5

  • @ImadZeryouh
    @ImadZeryouh Год назад +1

    Its better to forget times in solo Q and just be at the right moment. But in team ranked this was one of the biggest tactics. What time does dragon spawn in League of Legends? 5:00. The cannon maybe worth gold but the dragons hold buffs. Thats why I lose solo top games allot but as adc or mid less because I help jngler with his respawning of jungle creeps. Dragons are very powerfull....

  • @matthieucardineau5030
    @matthieucardineau5030 Год назад

    interesting informations here

  • @delta4135
    @delta4135 Год назад

    I am recalling at 5 min. bc everyone are doing this and thanks to that I can go do my stuff in 🚾.

  • @loreb3ck
    @loreb3ck Год назад +1

    Ty for the fantastic video, but i have a question... Why support goes in mid at the min( 5:00 )? If they want to fight at the lvl6 of the midlaner (so min 5:30)?

    • @alejandromico9787
      @alejandromico9787 Год назад +1

      mikyx proly fought on the bottom side river after that fight was done he had nothing to do thats why he goes mid to share xp and gold with caps cause he might be behind or trying to make a lead with the xp

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z Год назад +1

      To allow a roam at lvl 6 as soon as possible

  • @TimeTraveler-hk5xo
    @TimeTraveler-hk5xo Год назад

    very cool

  • @migs6869
    @migs6869 Год назад

    damn this is hugee had no clue bout this

  • @giovannipaolo5650
    @giovannipaolo5650 Год назад +26

    cannon minion takes 14% DMG flat from tower it cant survice 10 shots - btw you can count that its 8 shots as 7 ammount to 98%, (all minions have unique passives similar to tower decrese pre 5 minute as you show. its 45% melee 70% caster 14 canon)

    • @maryarts1505
      @maryarts1505 Год назад

      What rank are you?

    • @giovannipaolo5650
      @giovannipaolo5650 Год назад +3

      @@maryarts1505 gold

    • @rockethand
      @rockethand Год назад +1

      ​@@giovannipaolo5650you don't get high elo, but you got big brainz 🧠

    • @giovannipaolo5650
      @giovannipaolo5650 Год назад

      @@rockethand Btw those numbers are implemented through 'items' called ANTI-TOWER SOCKS we can click on a minion and then hover over their only item to see that indeed minion do wear socks (btw they are stinky but effective) its an awesome easter egg that feels like sezon 1 leauge :D

  • @nowheretohlde
    @nowheretohlde Год назад

    doesnt know such an important mark
    thanks

  • @IvanSnake08
    @IvanSnake08 Год назад

    Really insightful! I think it's funny that I intuitively always recalled between the optimal times you prescribed when I can but could never really pinpoint why I did it (I've been playing on/off for 12 years and just hit Masters).

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics Год назад +1

    I expected this to be lazy clickbait with a guy being like "dragon" after dragging it out but this was very informative. I do this back kind of naturally, probably ingrained in me by lvl6 stuff and other players, but it's useful to know why it matters.

  • @codelinx
    @codelinx Год назад

    Really good info and lol tip

    • @codelinx
      @codelinx Год назад

      Just wish NA and league weren't trash🤦‍♂️

  • @matthewfuerst6456
    @matthewfuerst6456 Год назад +8

    Actually really interesting, plus now 5:30 will finally be drilled into my head as the time that the enemy mid lane assassin will roam bot to kill me

  • @Romario-henry
    @Romario-henry Год назад

    its not just backing to prep for dragon fight?