As a sales representative of leaf filter, those "sales guys" you've hired and talked to obviously couldn't sell shit! And you wanna sit here and tell a billion dollar business to review the way we sell, sounds like you can out sell your product. Maybe you should take notes.
Billion dollar business? Check your numbers, they are jacked like your prices. And check comments under this video. You are not first rep complaining about this video. And hundreds have said the same what I said about those reps. Just another liar from leaf filter, do they have any honest sales reps?
Yes, we will be doing over a billion in business this year, we get the numbers weekly..... Go look at qualified remodeling, we are the 3rd largest remodeling company in America. Stop talking out of your ass dumb ass. You can find that magazine in home depot. You know nothing about this industry obviously 🤣🤣🤣
I was scheduled to start selling for leafilter this coming no day where I was going to be learning their "sales pitch" , but the response by this arrogant sales guy pretty much made me change my mind....not only that , if the market demand supported 35 bucks a lineal foot which obviously it does not , then I won't waste my time standing in a homeowners house and embarrassing myself with all the price drops DEMONSTRATING the product is not worth the asking price in the first place ...but I'm glad I came here to here HOW they try to market their over priced product...
I just had Leaf Filter gutter guards installed on my home and detached garage, all together 140 linear feet. The sales rep initially quoted me a price of $11,626 ($83.04 per linear foot). I kept bargaining him down and he dropped the price to $7,455 ($53.25 per linear foot) then $3,622 ($25.87 per linear foot) to finally $2,532 ($18.09 per linear foot). And after watching this video I feel like I STILL overpaid! You KNOW their original price is WAY overblown when they can "give" you a "discount" of 79% and still be making a profit. I have friends who had a 20-ft. length of Leaf Filter installed on their home and they were charged $1200 ($60 per linear foot) because it didn't occur to them that they could negotiate the price. Thank you for your videos; you are performing a valuable service for homeowners!!!!!!
Thanks for this video- I had a similar situation. The sales rep started around $7500, with about 25% discount they came down to ~$5600. The next morning, he came down to 4555 because of a “job cancellation in our area and wanted to fit us in.” After watching this video, I called him to negotiate down and we ended at $3500 - more than half of the starting cost. Thanks you for this video and saving us.
Thank you Dmitry, you're doing good service with this blog! I also had a Leaf Filter pitch, told them to keep it short and the rep complied. Pricing is the typical start very high then cut in half, in line with your per sq.ft.cost estimate. I read further in your viewers comments and saw the info on algae growth and potential maintenance, makes sense - very concerning, I cancelled the installation. Gonna go with traditional cleaning and maintenance. Keep up the good work.
I signed a contract for new " LeafFilters" gutters back in Oct and was informed that I would be contacted for a Pre- install Inspection. that was done within 2 weeks of the contract. I was told someone would contact me within 24-48 hours about when job could be started. Well I called the company as was told someone would contact me within 24 hrs. I waited a week and call Customer service and was told Maybe they were withing for the materials. Waited and other week ans was tol someone would contact me within 24 hrs. Nope didn't happen. Again I called and given the same per-written speech .. 24hrs here it is now Dec and nothing nadda, nix from this company
Thank you! Thank You! THANK YOU!!!. I just had a brand new roof installed two days ago with gutters and was going to call leaf filter to get an estimate on their leaf guard system...but after seeing this I will pass and shop around.
actually the guy that posted all this is an idiot and knows nothing about gutters or roof warrantys if he did in his video he wouldnt touch the shingles knowing it would void the roof warranty. Please everyone call a professional dont count on all these guys trying to sell some inferior product.
@@cldemaine She was saying she was going to call Leaf Filter about their ‘leaf guard’ system- she knows which company is being talked about. I am sure some sales reps are better than others. mine was terrible.
I found Leaf Filter at a home show and scheduled an appointment. Then I read all the negative press about their high pressure sales tactics and phoney discounts. I called them to cancel the appointment and the rep on the phone launched into all sorts of pressure to keep or reschedule. I could not get her to confirm the cancellation until I told her if a rep set foot on my property I would have him arrested. Stay far away from these people.
I had a similar experience several days ago, after I read so many negative reviews I called to cancel the appt. The phone rep tried to talk me out of it, but finally agreed. However, several hours later, someone from Leaf Filter shows up at my home, claiming no knowledge of the cancellation! I believe the phone rep never told the installer that I had cancelled in the hope he could make the sale anyway! I told him I wasn’t interested and he left without a word. This company is the worst, and I’m glad I saw those reviews, let the buyer beware!
I am a gutter installer who has OCD/and a perfectionist. Please Consider: Fact: The open mouth of a gutter is a trap - Fiction: There is a perfect solution. Fact: Meshes, foam pad inserts,micro screens, just clog up. There are 4 products from the best system I found alu-rex.com. All are perforated aluminum: #1- #5300 cover/topper (with a flow restriction lip) and is retro/ Reno (installed on existing gutter as a after market product) #2-5200 a new construction continuous hanger ( NOT a TOPPER ) it is the hanger that is running and supporting the entire length of the gutter and is superior because it is not the weaker spaced system of spikes or spaced hangers. #3 #5800 a heavier gauge aluminum which is even stronger that I can stand on! #4 DoublePro designed for finer particles using 2 layers to help flush out fine stuff with the Venturi effect. Conclusion: you will get some debris build up and fine particles like roof grains but this system is way better than every other I’ve seen. With this one I don’t get complaints/call-back. It does require some maintenance. One eg. Is where wind cannot help blow out debris like on an inside corner or sheltered area however a quick swipe off the top is easy compared to digging muck out of the gutter trap or bottom. But some critics cannot recognize the benefits (perhaps some critics have black and white thinking -either approve or condemn) This is a good coping mechanism and will help reduce maintenance.
Ray McGee Ray McGee 0 seconds ago I signed a contract for new " LeafFilters" gutters back in Oct and was informed that I would be contacted for a Pre- install Inspection. that was done within 2 weeks of the contract. I was told someone would contact me within 24-48 hours about when job could be started. Well I called the company as was told someone would contact me within 24 hrs. I waited a week and call Customer service and was told Maybe they were withing for the materials. Waited and other week ans was tol someone would contact me within 24 hrs. Nope didn't happen. Again I called and given the same per-written speech .. 24hrs here it is now Dec and nothing nadda, nix from this company
A guy had come over to buy to inform us about the gutters and he had told us that to install new gutters was going to cost 4200 dollars. He had used he's sells tactic and pressured my mom to cave in and she sign up. He had that she could get a finance and pay $70 a month for five years. I was like that don't sound good at all, but she had already sign the contract. I did my research and found out that she had three days to cancel. And I told the guy to cancel the contract for her the next day. After she canceled the contract, the guy had said that for future reference he could give me a deal of two thousand dollars less. You can't trust no one out there. Although he gave us really good tips and even pointed out some issues that the house had that weren't aware since we had just bought the house and now, we know we got to fix lol.
Hey Id like to say thanks for this video, I had leaf Filter come out and give a quote yesterday they started at 8K for 144 feet of gutter, then with discount went down to 6, then becuause i had to jump start his car it went down to 3400 i told him 2500 and we agreed on 2600. being installed today. thanks because of this video i felt i could negotiate it!
i have my gutters cleaned spring,summer ,and fall...80 dollars per visit plus tip...and now i sleep...so 300 a year...no filter...no cover... i live next to a pine tree and maple...right next to the roof...sometimes low tech is the best tech
80 dls? That is too little too. A dólar a foot it’s a decent and fair price, for 80 dls On a house that is 140 ft + of gutter is like taking advantage of the gutter guy’s need too and fair for them either.
Hi all, using this video today (12/14/20) I was able to negotiate from 39/ft to 12.50/ft. Very happy with that price. I found this video on a whim and it ended up saving me thousands. Once he realized I did some research he stopped trying to sell me high, and just take the sale at 12.50
Cripes! Wish I had watched this video BEFORE my recent Leaf Filter sales visit . Most comments are right on the money. My estimate started at $10,700 for a ranch house with 230+ linear feet of gutters. That came down to $7,000 after a long sales talk and the "notebook" for visual reinforcement. I said 'no' and he got in his car to leave. One minute later a knock on the door - WHY DID I ANSWER THE DOOR? - and I got the same pitch mentioned in other comments about a lower price as a "commercial contract" AND the final pitch that hooked me ... due to Covid they really needed to sell product to keep their employees busy. So, I did sign for $6300. Now I could kick myself for over paying for this product. This had better be the best damn gutter guard product ever, AND I will tell myself that I helped keep someone employed.
WOWWWWW. Thanks for this video. I bought a 5 yr old home a few months ago and its a tall house and the gutters are clogged. I found Leaf Filter online and submitted my info but in doing my due diligence I found this video, and to be honest I'm not even going to bother with Leaf Filter if they try to pitch me at $32 per ft. I may look for a different option all together.
I had a similar experience with a rep recently. Started impossibly high, then came down, then came down again, then came down again. I do not like being highballed and working down from there, nor being put on the spot to sign immediately without an opportunity to review the contract thoroughly or evaluate the supposed "lifetime warranty" which inevitably will have so many exceptions that the company will never be liable.
Exactly! I was today asked to sign this "deal" or "loose it".. and I was like hypnotized and signed it! By the time I came back to my senses and realized what have I just done, he was long gone. I've now asked for cancellation (thank god state law allows you to cancel such contracts within a stipulated time frame). No matter how good their product is, and I believe it is a good product, no one likes to go through this experience! I would rather get a local contractor to do with home-depot material and clean it once an year myself.
@@VivekTiwari00 No, it's NOT, I repeat, not a good product. It's horrible. It will keep junk out of the gutters, BUT the junk just piles up on top of the filters and jambs the whole system up. Then the water goes over the gutters and wicks back into wood components. Trust me, I got suckered into a $4300.00 leaffilter scam 2 months ago. It's rained twice and they are jammed up already. Next week I'm ripping them off my house and straight to the dump. Oh, and no money back!! DON'T EVER TAKE THE BAIT ON ANY OF THESE GUTTER SYSTEMS. JUST PAY TO HAVE THEM CLEANED OUT A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR.
This is my personal experience. A Leaf Filter rep came to my home and tried to sell me their product for $18,500 (338 linear ft total). That's almost $55/ft! Needless to say I was really shocked. I didn't any research beforehand so I had no idea how much Leaf Filter should cost but similar to othwes experienced, this sales rep was so aggressive and spent over an hour with his 3 ring binder hard selling it to me. He gave me two estimates, one good for that day (but he wouldn't give me till EOD to decide) and one supposedly good for a year (but 30% higher) and then pressured me into making a decision on the spot. It was probably one of the most uncomfortable conversations I had had in my life. I said I would call him back and he said no customer would ever call back and pay the higher price. What kind of company is that??? If you're so confident about your product, why wouldn't you let your customer do some research and decide? I kept saying it's a lot of money and need more time to decide. He lowered his price from $18k to $14k and then he started suggesting skipping some sections of the house and selling it at $10k or even installing gutters without protection at a lower price! I currently have gutters with protection, just not all the way around my house. Why the hell would I pay him to remove my protection!?!? I said I would call him back but he was so upset he couldn't make a sale he wouldn't even leave his number. I can't imagine how many people this company has duped with this sales model teying to sell their product at 10 times the cost. This is probably how they got to $1 billion sales. I don't care how good your product is, you treat your customers like idiots, word is going to get around and damage your reputation.
I am an installer for them right now. I do installs, and service calls. They sale this crap as "never clog" but in a lot of cases, thats just not true. Ive been to dozens of homes that have over flow, do to the mesh being clogged. I have hundreds of pictures. Yhe product IS NOT and i repeat, NOT maintenance free as they pitch it. Ive sat and listened to customer care and sales reps lie to the customer as im standing there while the customer calls on speaker phone. Its the most embarrassing thing for me. I do what i can to make the customer happy, but once the lie is told, its difficult to make it right. The mesh has to be free of debris to work properly. Although the product does make cleaning 100 times easier, and much faster. You still need to blow, sweep, or hose the mesh off from time to time, so the product will work properly. Thats my two cents. Hope it helps.
I'm not sure why anyone would tell customers its 100% maintenance free. When people tell me this all I can say is name one thing you have bought that's 100% maintenance free. Everyone should know that's just not possible. Now some work way better than others. Leaf filter is not one of them.
@@Jbladii You are correct, they will back charge an installer if we dont do the install properly, and the way they trained us to install it. I take, before and after pictures of all the installs, and service calls I do. Just incase. The product itself, is not bad. But if im being honest, the sales pitch should be brought down a notch. Its simply not as hassle free as they would want you to believe. The expectation is set way to high during the sales pitch. People just want the product to work they way they were told it would. Cant blame them..😁🤷♂️
This is the best review of what one should pay I've ever seen anywhere. You present well. In my opinion (in a perfect world) there should be very little negotiating. I don't negotiate for a TV, a washing machine, or a sofa so why should I have to listen to some BS sales pitch and have to negotiate for the best price on a gutter system?
negotiation is going to be a thing when commission is in play... but they take it to the extreme it would be like going to the dealership and they put a 40k sticker price on a 20k coupe just to see if you're dumb enough to pay it
We got the Leaf filter I liked the material that they used good quality but was super expensive. We paid 8,000. one week ago. A local guy would have purchased the material from Home Depot and labor he wanted 2,000. was very tempting but because of the wind, cold weather, and brutal snow.
That is wild money for gutter guards. I watched the first review and made my decision by buying the best one he recommended from Home Depot. I did my entire house and garage (3200sqft house) for $180 ($1.5/ft) and these thing work great. Ya I had to get up on a ladder, but I did that every year to clean them anyways. Not going up there ever again for $180!!!!! (Hopefully)
I have crape myrtles around my house and the leaves being small mat down in the steep valleys of my roof. I think they would have no trouble matting down on the horizontal surfaces of these leaf guards.
Thanks for the video, I have been through the same with Leaf Filter, actually two different sales reps came and gave two different prices in a 2 week window period.
Totally agree with you about Leaf Filter!!! I had a sales rep come to my home for a free estimate. He started the quote at 5k dropping down to 4K but if I sign a contract with him before he left $3920.00. Then he got on the phone with his manager and dropped again to $2200.00. I thought I was at the used car lot lol. The high pressure sales tactics really turned me OFF! I just wanted to get a few quotes before I signed up with anyone but I spent the better part of 2 and a half hours with this guy and was about to go all “GET OFF MY LAWN DUDE!” Long story short I went with another company. The price was about the same as his final quote and they also had the Micromesh product. Homeowner beware!!!
My 82 yr old father just had this done..1 level house including two downspouts replaced..$3500...I looked at invoice/hand written contract and zero breakdown of cost or labor to install..just a nice round number at the bottom....dude showed up at 4 on a Saturday and was gone by 5:30
@@RoofingInsights3.0 they have no right and wrong in their heats. Picking on the elderly and disabled to make a living will cause sever judgement one day soon for these crooks
This video was super helpful! Thank you. The salesperson at my home tried selling this to me for $9000 initially - and discounted it down to $7,600 before walking out as final offer valid for only 24 hours. Then 5 days later they texted me saying the had left over material from another job and can give it to me at cost and quoted me $3,900 250 linear foot of gutter - so came down from $32 per foot to $15.5 per foot - exactly same price Whats shown in the video. I sent them this video link. Expect some views from leaf filter HQ! Hope they stop this price gouging strategy!
I was really turned off by the high pressure sales tactics from them. First off, it's an hour long session between him measuring gutters and giving the sales pitch, so be ready for that. I have a decent sized house, but simple gable roof with 2 porches. They wanted $3900 ish. But the "price good for today only" before the salesman left was $2800. Luckily I told him I have to discuss it with my wife first and would get back to him. I didn't get back to him. Got a text from the salesman a week later saying they would do it for $1680. Still didn't respond because in my head I knew those would have trouble with heavy rains, and some testimonials confirmed that with moss. I'm glad I didn't go with them. I'm just going to get a shop vac extension and clean them myself without having to get on a ladder (which was the only reason I considered them). So lesson for everyone else, have only one of you home when the LeafGuard guy comes so you have an "out" and time to think about making a decision. haha.
Any product for which the price is good only today reeks of higfh pressure sales tactics to get a sale through. If the price is good today it should be good tomorrow. One day or one week does not shift the material or labor price, unless you are buying a volatile stock in the stock market.
I bought two packs of these plastic covers 36 inches long, 10 in a box, for $24 a box free shipping on eBay. It took me longer to climb up the ladder than it did to take me to slide one edge under the first row of shingles which held them in place. I put them up in September every year because I have big trees in the front of my house that fill the gutters.. in December, I take them off because there’s no issue with the gutters clogging because the leaves are done Falling here in western Pennsylvania. So for under 50 bucks, and about 30 minutes work, which the biggest part of the job was moving the ladder, I covered my gutters in the front of my house with Leaf guard filters. I don’t know what brand they are, some generic something or other. I don’t leave them on over the winter because they will get snow accumulation, and with the freeze thaw cycle they ice over, and the melting snow does not go into the gutter when they are iced over.. unfortunate that my gutters in the front of my house are only about 8 feet up above the ground. In the back of my house, they are about 25 feet up because my house is built on a slope. I don’t care if those gutters overflow in a big rain because The water can’t get in the house if the ground is saturated in the back. But it did in the front of my house when hurricane Ivan passed over Pennsylvania I couple decades ago. I got about a gallon or two of water in my game room on the floor covering an area about the size of a pool table. That happened because my gutters were filled with leaves and didn’t take the water away from the house.. So for under 50 bucks. Problem solved
Good material here. I bought Leaf Filter perhaps 4 or 5 years ago, before they were well known to me at least. I just had a new roof installed and all of it was ripped off, and is not really replaceable. I will say it worked pretty well in an area with a right angle around the pool. In any event the sales pitch sounds familiar. Prices started so high I laughed and said i'd consider it. Finally over the phone I got appx. 100 ft. installed for $1,350 as I recall. But like everywhere I read now, there really is no really good solution to keeping your gutters clean over the long-haul. Maintenance, cleaning out the holes, and screens will be required.....an improvement yes, but I will leave my gutters as they are from this point on.
Leaf filter estimate for me 128 feet start 5200 after 3600 all time he was saying because retired it is deduction i told too much i paid roof 3000 he sad ok good price for you 2500 but next day they didn't come as was promised i cancel and was happy
@@henrycrawford2697 everyone has to make money .. money makes the world go round .. I just watched this video . second home iim putting it on . my take away is Honeybuns cant be in the room .... I beat up my first installment I thought pretty good , but after watching this iim ready for round two .. im gunna make Lincoln cry and the salesman ...
A Leaffilter rep JUST left my house, I called them to get an estimate. The before negotiation price I got was a cool $12,400.00 for 225 linear feet. BUT, if I agreed to be a “backup” customer, with a verbal agreement TODAY, he could lock me in at $6000! 🤣
Thank you!!! I had had a horrible time with the free estimate and knew something was really wrong! For 140 linear feet I got the contract down from about $7500 plus taxes, to $6500 plus taxes and then $3000 all in. After watching your video I rescinded the contract as it is still about double what it should be!!! And they don't even clean the gutters on the outside, so I am left to hire someone else anyway
I played old lady on a fixed income. So it came down but here’s the issue I had: bad installation. They sealed over dirty gutters. Part of the deal was “we clean the gutters.” They did some of it but left the main gutter clogged and I can’t get to it to clean it. Let’s see if they honor their warranty.
Absolutely love everything you said. Can't believe they left the guy at $18 a foot at 4400. Insane business model. Out here in California that plastic cannot handle this desert heat and it's warping in the first year. Your micro mesh is the exact same stuff I use out here that I get from Wisconsin and your Price is Right in line with mine! Great video, I'm going to play it at the next Fresno home show next weekend on a big screen, good thing we're not in the same building hahaha
My house has about 165 LFT of gutters. LEAF FILTER Sales rep turned up earlier than scheduled. Waited in the cold. 1st price $ 6700.00. Showed me a review from Consumer reports as being top of the line. BTW it is winter and we are slow, we can do S 4500. I said I will get back to you. Price dropped to $ 3500.00 and down to $ 3000.00 and any day of your choosing. Checked consumer reports, could not find any review. Decided to buy similiar product online from Amazon. Got a roofer to install it. Total cost Labor and Material = $ 900.00. My gut feeling that I am being played was just beacuse of the rapid price drops. Unscruplous sales persons.
That’s must be embarrassing for leaf filter. You would think they would listen to all online comments and start changing their sales tactics but no: they will keep doing it till they hurt. I think it’s time for another video. Thanks for taking time to share your experience!!!
Yes you are being played. It's how their sales process works. Start high, give a discount, ask you to buy. You say no. They drop the price again if you're "flexible" for the install date. You still say no. Then magically some lefterover material appears and your price drops to $12/ft
For $750 I would have install aluminum Bulldog leaf guard on your gutters with a 25-year no clog warranty because no matter what if you have a shingle roof the granules will still get inside the leaf guard. You still got ripped off by the roofer as well. Shop around a little next time you can find a family-owned business that would have taken care of you.
I'll tell you my price is right now I charge $4.50 a foot for leaf guard $5.50 to $6.50 depending on how technical the job is if they want strip miters or if they would like handcrafted corners or even the rookie box miters. And it's a little ridiculous when companies charge $100 for a 10-foot downspout when a downspout only cost them $6 bucks you take the three elbows you're using plus a downspout that's considered as 13 foot you add that into your total footage each elbow is one foot.
Just had a LeafFilter sales 'presentation'. Guy was quick, great info and nice/respectful.. Admitted that the product needs to be cleared at times (like ALL gutter guards). I don't have the linear feet. Started at $6,800 then a 30% off promotion and even more if you sign today... Price went down to $3,500. He did a soft, hard sell (my boss says....). But yea, starting high and trying to convince me I'm getting a deal, when I have other estimates around $2,500...
Before you purchase this faulty product Read the class action law suit against leaf filter North the case is Zelinski v leaf filter North It will tell you all you need to know
All you have to do is take note of all the advertising they do to know they're pricing will be extremely inflated. They flood the market with ads everywhere, TV, newspapers, magazines, online, etc. In my Sunday paper today there were three ads alone. Who do think pays for all that advertising. You do. Even $4400 is way, way to much for gutter protection. There are excellent solutions out there for 1/4 of that.
$6000 for 300 linear feet. Probably the worst deal I've ever made. Brand new house with new gutters in place. They used 1 installer, 1 day installing screens for $20 a foot. It's been 3 years and I'm still upset.
Man, i see a lot of bad reviews. Mostly about the sales pitches. I ended up paying $18/ft. for leaffilter. It was around $3,000 total. I've had them for a year and they work great however, I don't get many leaves, just pine needles and shingle run off so maybe that's why? I will say the only bad experience was the installer. He left about 60 screws in my driveway and more materials scattered around my house. Seemed in a rush but they work great for me.
I also had Leaf Filter provide an estimate. The first quote was (210 feet) $17K and after 15 minutes of why they are better sales talk, then dropped to $11K apparently from my facial expression... I told them I am having other estimates done and would get back to them in a couple days. Received a text that afternoon saying they had over runs from a commercial job and could do it for $3,200. But I had to accept now or they would have to put it back in the warehouse. I clean the gutters, installing a guard is really easy. I purchased Waterlock Micromesh from Amazon (better product) and installed myself for $1K. Actual gutter length was 194 feet. I run commercial construction projects for a living. That type of sales pitch is ridiculous. Always get multiple quotes!
I just signed for a project with Leaf Filter. 75 linear feet, $1042. 6" gutters. $13.89/ft. I think that seems like a fair deal given everything that I am reading here. I am also a salesman, so I just wrote off some of the "I am not making a lot on your sale, but hope to pick up more business on your street." as a fair sales thing to say, but I am sure he is making something. I hope he is. I will say that my experience so far has been very positive. They are going to do the install tomorrow.
@@afrocraft1 They use a measuring wheel to measure gutters, tape measurer or laser measurer for downspouts (depending on how high). The Downspouts are only measured if your replacing gutters and installing the filters. So, if your gutters are metal and do not need replacing, you dont factor in the downspouts on the linear ft.
He absolutely made $0 on this sale. I just want to point out, MOST sales reps would rather volunteer their time in getting you a product that protects your home and keeps you off a ladder than pressure you into paying for something you cant afford. And if you could afford the gutters, consider getting that sales rep a $20 gift card for gas, sounds like he deserves it.
Thanks for the video... I saw a commercial for LeafFilter and thought it could be handy for my house... but started to feel "off" about the company when, as soon as I put in for a quote on their website, they called less than a minute later. And they've been calling at least once a day since...I've had experience with companies like that before, and usually the best course of action is to choose another company. Glad I saw your video, as well as reading through the comments, it sounds like I'm making the right decision. I may have to answer just to try and get them to stop calling... definitely not a fan of the "high ball, but we can drop the price to..." sales pitch that it sounds like they employ.
Leaf Filter came to my house for an estimate. They started out at $10,800. I almost flipped out and said no way that I couldn't afford that. After going back and forth for a while we wound up signing a contract for $5700. I thought Even that was too much but we went ahead with it. I asked if it would be an actual Leaf Filter employee that would do the install and they guaranteed me it would beTo days later a sub-contractor showed up to do the install.
I received a free estimate from “an educator” from Leaf Filter today. The person said they did not make a commission and was on salary, she was an educator not a sales person and received no commission. The price started at $5600 and the first drop came down to $2900. I felt like the first quote was an attempt of theft as soon as I resisted the price dropped almost in half??? Wow, buyer beware....
I recently got a great deal on my 15 square roof for my house+garage. $4500 family price. Leaffilter came out and quoted me $6,314 for 154 feet of gutters. NO WAY in hell should it cost more than the roof! After some talking he gave me a very super special offer of $3,000 if I sign today. I told him I dont deal with shady business tactics and to get off my property. LOL!
Out of the "50's sales presentation". He claimed that Consumer Reports gave LeafFilter was awarded #1 = not so. The first best deal was $2500 for 85', his second-best deal was $2250= we rejected as twice as high as competitors. 8 hours later their best deal dropped to $1100 but only good until midnight? I would have easily agreed to a $ 1400 price because I was impressed with the product but the sales push made me suspicious. The salesman probably did not have a choice on how to present but we are senior citizens and are wary of pushy presentations.
Leaf filters do not work! had mine installed before they could finish the job i checked the snow melting and it was running down the roof over the leaf filter and on my deck.I can see why they dont clog the gutters the water wont even go thru completly
I am in the process of removing gutter guard yet again.To remove the tiny-holed stainless steel expensive guard is painful and like all gutter guard eventually, the gutter fills and a horrid job. Don't get gutter guards!
My leaf filter guy just started out at nearly $17,000 and dropped to $6,100 IF he didn’t become so aggressively pushy toward the end of his presentation he could have made a sale. I was uncomfortable by his tone and some comments and needed to end the interaction.
Sounds like my experience, started at 17k then to 6k . Signed and then called next day yo cancel . It didn’t sit well with me . Thank god for state right to cancel In 3 days ! Don’t like bs !
Could you do one for Englert LeafGuard? I had a sales rep come and quote for 224’ of gutter and 182’ of downspouts for a two story house with admittedly some weird roof lines. It started at $20k then $17k and finally $12k. I know they’re expensive but I don’t know how far $12k is still overpriced. Ive only found 1 or 2 people taking about this brand and pricing.
Been in the business for 25 years, subbed work for leaf filter for a few years. You have to be insane to pay that amount of money for gutter guards. Don't fall for it
I hope you did a better job of installing than I got. They left my gutters clogged with debris and I can’t get get in there to clean it. Part of the job and the deal, and I made sure thy wrote it on the estimate, was gutter cleaning because I wouldn’t be able to clean the gutters once it was in.
@cricketthoffman9499 we litterly just removed 8000 worth leaf guard from a lady who had a new roof put on, and couldn't even put it back on cuz they are hacks. Had to charge her more to put a different product on. Her gutters were half full and her filter was ass clogged with there great screen mesh they put on top. Garbage product trust me. I put the affordable kind on and give them 2 free cleanings a year, cuz u still have to blow off the debri, cuz It will pile up. It will not wash off like the try and sell you.
I only have 70 feet of gutter and they quoted me 3400... I almost laughed in his face. he could tell I wasn't interested at that point and without me asking he moved down to 2600. I'm still not interested but good to know I should be paying half that! thanks
@@RoofingInsights3.0 you were right on point- they got back to me again today and dropped their price further! less than 1200 now when they originally proposed 3400... so from $40+ per foot to about $17 per foot. I am going to go with them as I like the product just the price was holding me back thanks for the videos, u got a new sub!
Hey, I really appreciate your work. I have a RUclips channel here in germany, too. You are a true inspiration when it comes to pick new topics. 👍 Keep on going!
So how much for 200’ of new gutters, 9 2x3 downspouts, 6 miters and 200’ of leaf guard ? I had an initial offer of 13k, then by the time they left it dropped to $6430 with 0 % financing for 36 months
Interesting experience on getting an estimate from "Leaffilter", high pressure sales today only price now! He went from 6,400 down to 3,900. He got upset 😡 that I would not comment. He must have lost his way of the meaning of an estimate! In my opinion it is overpriced! Just thought I would share my experience with "Leaffilter"
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I am going to go to HD and buy their wire mesh product. I figure at $2 a LF if it does not work no big deal. The trick is the install as getting up on a two story roof can get a bit dicey. I am having my roof replaced so I am working with the contractor to install them for me. No doubt it will be significantly less than the $33/LF. Thanks for you insight. Very helpful! Well done.
I had a Leaf filter rep came today and He quoted me $5800 on a 2900 square feet house. To make the story short he came down on the price to $3992 then $2500 if I pay cash. He told me I'm not here to spend an hr and not get the product. Very rude and very defensive. I told him to leave my house. People. Stay away from them.
Well I got the same pitch from leaf filters last week , they started high and really low so for 3,300$ for 126 feet for the gutters and the filter installed I guess it's not bad because they guaranty everything as long as the house stays which means if I sell my house it's still under warranty plus every year I have big ice issues because of my tin roof and my gutters are ripped off every time so I just can't wait and see.
Warning:; Leaf Filter personnel ARE NOT GUTTER SPECIALISTS and will screw up your gutter system if you let them. This is from personal experience. They recommended a new section of gutter and/or realignment. They could not provide an adequate plan for replacement, so I opted for an adjustment and they screwed it up. I had to drill holes in my gutter and add downspouts were they could not solve the issue. They did a crappy job putting their cheap caps on my gutter and they resisted heavily when I tried to get them to correct their mistakes and honor their commitments made during the initial in-person consultation! In addition, their story change from the initial estimate when they came out a second time. Do not use this service!!!!!! Seattle area...
One of my lawn clients just paid 13k dollars for the leaf filter gutter guards on her 10 year old gutters. When she told me I almost crapped myself. And no, it wasn't 1300 it was 13,000 dollars. WTF man, I should find that salesman and kick him in the nuts.
My guy came and told me the "retail price"of $2200, but he said that's not the price we charge he did some figuring and asked me if I liked saving money (who doesn't?) So of course I said yes and he said $980 and I was just going to do it but then reading all of these reviews online but I'll probably do it anyway because this is Kentucky and we don't get allot of snow and ice and cross my fingers.
Their high pressure sales are the #1 reason I said no to them. I don't care how great your product is, if you are pitching it to me like a scene from Glengarry Glen Ross I'm going to pass. edit: Also thanks for the awesome video and advice.
I am a gutter installer who has OCD/and a perfectionist. Please Consider: Fact: The open mouth of a gutter is a trap - Fiction: There is a perfect solution. Fact: Meshes, foam pad inserts,micro screens, just clog up. There are 4 products from the best system I found alu-rex.com. All are perforated aluminum: #1- #5300 cover/topper (with a flow restriction lip) and is retro/ Reno (installed on existing gutter as a after market product) #2-5200 a new construction continuous hanger ( NOT a TOPPER ) it is the hanger that is running and supporting the entire length of the gutter and is superior because it is not the weaker spaced system of spikes or spaced hangers. #3 #5800 a heavier gauge aluminum which is even stronger that I can stand on! #4 DoublePro designed for finer particles using 2 layers to help flush out fine stuff with the Venturi effect. Conclusion: you will get some debris build up and fine particles like roof grains but this system is way better than every other I’ve seen. With this one I don’t get complaints/call-back. It does require some maintenance. One eg. Is where wind cannot help blow out debris like on an inside corner or sheltered area however a quick swipe off the top is easy compared to digging muck out of the gutter trap or bottom. But some critics cannot recognize the benefits (perhaps some critics have black and white thinking -either approve or condemn) This is a good coping mechanism and will help reduce maintenance.
Ok but no one's talking about how it has a lifetime transferrable warranty. I didn't want my gutters to clog and they haven't for past 3 years and I have trees HUGGING my house. I've also made back what I spent on it with the value increase from refinancing.. idk man...
lifetime warranty is good for one year and service calls cost$95 under warranty. what a deal. Also, the warranty only covers what's inside of gutters.They will be clean because NOTHING {water and Debree } goes through the micro mesh cover.
Would love to help! Most of our contractors install high quality micro mesh: roofinginsights.com/directory, let me know if you can’t find one in your area
Don't waste your money on LeafFilter. Their guarantee is worthless. The filters will clog and they will tell you the guarantee is only for keeping things out of the gutter, not for clogged covers/filters. Stay away. Stay FAR away.
if you want to get a good price, just get a product online, from the amazon or from other store, hire a roofer and he will happily install it for you. All together you will probably pay 1/2 of the price full specialized company charge for it because you will cut out cute receptionist, sales person, team manager and all bunch of other people from equation. As for warranty, its a bloody piece of aluminium. There is a reason most companies give you lifetime warranty on it.
I just called to book an appt....they were offering me a discount if my spouse was present....is that not odd? Cant give me a ballpark price on 160 linear feet of material on a bungalow because “it is based on the job”. Immediately after booking my appt I questioned the tactics, then found this video. As I suspected, hard sales tactics. Glad I was made aware of this before, I have no time for companies that lack integrity. If this is the manner in which sales are carried out then I question the foundation and management of such a business. Are there any other companies to consider for this?
Thanks for the tips! Just got a quote today from HomeCraft Gutter Protection. First quote $5,221 for 150 ft. install ($34.80/ft). I told the sales guy that after doing some research that a reasonable price was $16-18/ft. Second offer was $2,437 ($16.24/ft).
Don’t go with Leaf Filter, and I’m here to say why. I had them installed on my back patio gutter, only, and it was $3,000. That was a year ago this past March, and the gutter is already clogged. So I called them to have someone sent here to fix that. They said it would cost me $97, because my one year warranty was up. So much for their so called “Lifetime No Clogs Guarantee”
I have a 2 story home and the current system that was on the house when we bought it is failing bad. To do our whole gutter system was going to be about $5k. The reviews have me second guessing and thinking about canceling but seems like every system has bad reviews and issues… 🤦♂️
In your video is the price you're referring to ($12 to $20) just for the guard or new gutters/downspouts and guard? If not for everything, what then would the price be?
Interesting experience on getting an estimate from "Leaffilter", high pressure sales today only price now! He went from 6,400 down to 3,900. He got upset 😡 that I would not comment. He must have lost his way of the meaning of an estimate! In my opinion it is overpriced! Just thought I would share my experience with "Leaffilter"
Literally just had a leaf filter agent come to my home and offer to install for 10k. He just left and it was negotiated down to 4600 if I finance and 3800 to pay upfront.
They just finished my single story, 3br home. Looking at the material, I might pay $800 - $1000 for it, it took one installer 3 hours, and I received a "discount" of 10%, dropping the price from over $4000 to under $3850 or something. "Demitri" rounded the price to an even $3800. I didn't see anything special about the mesh, or the honeycombed plastic base under the mesh. The installer did hammer out a dent, claims to have added a sealant, and blew out my downspouts. All of that was part of the labor, which I estimate cost me about $1000 an hour. I should have shopped around. I wouldn't have gotten the cheapest, but I'm certain I could have received the same care at half the price. They also were VERY QUICK to deposit my check, which, to me, stinks of "take the money and run." I suspect that the "lifetime warranty" of the sealant means the warranty will last as long as the company does.
Thanks for sharing!!! Sorry, but you overpaid. Hope someone will watch it and save half the cost. And leaf filter probably could do it for $2000 and still make money. Just saying
I was hesitant about going through with this pressured insulation but now that I've seen your comment I know that I was correct that they are full of it
I agree that Leaf filter is TOO expensive. Royal rip off. They get angry when you don't accept their exorbitant prices. The examples he showed me listed prices per foot. Leaffilters listed $20 per foot but that is not what he quoted me. He said he measured 116 ft and he quoted me $5538; then gave me his big discount for today $3950. I did questions price and his integrity and told him I had learned not to make decisions 'today' unless it was a price I couldn't resist, which that one was not. So glad I ran across you on RUclips.
Doing it yourself doesn’t justify the risk to fall and to be paralyzed or injured for the long time. Owner of gutter business fell of the 1 story roof installing covers 5-6 years ago. No joke
My 80 yr old mom just taken to the cleaners by Leaf Filter. They started off telling her that it would cost $24,000 to do her 2,000 square foot, single story house. Then they started taking of discounts and got the price down to $7,000, making my mom think that she was getting a really good deal. Shame on Leaf Filter.
Thanks for sharing everything! I want to share my experience with leaf filter unprofessional management in Ohio corporate offices, Springfield, MO., and North Carolina offices! Straight-line wind damage and lightning strike damages to my Mom`s house in September 2019! I am her son and resident at said damaged property and farm! BTW Mom is 74 years old now on a fixed income! Insurance claims denied on her house, gutters too, house damages due to lightning strikes! Of course, after the fact denied coverage of said damages for months to the house with insurance fraud denial of claims! After going through a contractor's approved site set up an appointment for leaf filter gutters! The same day the operation manager Springfield, MO. went to Mom's house got a check she paid in full about $5400.00 USD. The first day of installed company truck, trailer ran off gravel driveway damaging the yard twice in one day! Tow truck $125.00 for two minutes of work! Second time leaving the same day back into the yard again and got stuck! Gave the farm chain another company pick upvehicle pulled out truck gutter making trailer again! Had this day averbal agreement yard would be repaired in a timely matter! This was December 2019 whole install completed after three days of work! After countless calls, emails, liars, fraud as well on companies part! As well as more wind damage to new gutters! Two not even attached to the house! Thes gutters were ripped off the house by staughtline winds damaged gutters! Called many times thieves and liars in all locations mentioned! No lifetime warranty keep! Now as years of erosion as in the midwest! Over twelve thousand dollars in damages as erosion from severe thunderstorms, fort year 26 inches of rain in this region! snow, ice storms severe weather, sleet, hail ruts in the yard has caused ongoing damages for two years now! 2020 with all the tropical storms and remnants of hurricanes 55 inches of rainfall! As noted called asked for the HR department to report said employees' actions to date! Nothing was done or callbacks! As well no warranty honed as in writing on contract! Then lied to my mother about yard repairs as they know a dump truck and backhoe required hauling in the topsoil dirt, lime, fertilizer, base gravel top gravel for damaged driveway and now barn foundation eroded away!! Then seven types of different hay, grass seeds to plant the following spring after soil sample test for proper germination and soil test conducted by county!! They even lied about repairing one hundred feet away as many photos sent in emails! Repairing state-owned property as new fiber-optic lines installed that following year! One hundred sixty dollars landscaping paperwork! Sent all to DOT and US Senator for this region on fraud and invoice fraud! Beware, consumers of said product and company, as this is what happened with my mother home and experience of myself as setting up and see everything describe ir ongoing today with my own eyes! I witnessed and reported everything! Even called the Sherriff's department for reporting said crimes and fraud! Moms on a fixed income no civil lawsuit! Their product is junk! Fair warning people!
At the end of one of the leaf filter commercials, the wife of the only Black couple in the room said 'We're sold'. Because of what she was told to say, that commercial needs to be "REMOVED".
is this just for leaf filter(gutter cover) without gutter? once a Leaf Filter guy tried to sell me 6K whole house guarded gutter( leaf filter including gutter) installation. i turned him down. he literally told me " you waste my time "
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As a sales representative of leaf filter, those "sales guys" you've hired and talked to obviously couldn't sell shit! And you wanna sit here and tell a billion dollar business to review the way we sell, sounds like you can out sell your product. Maybe you should take notes.
Billion dollar business? Check your numbers, they are jacked like your prices. And check comments under this video. You are not first rep complaining about this video. And hundreds have said the same what I said about those reps. Just another liar from leaf filter, do they have any honest sales reps?
Yes, we will be doing over a billion in business this year, we get the numbers weekly.....
Go look at qualified remodeling, we are the 3rd largest remodeling company in America. Stop talking out of your ass dumb ass. You can find that magazine in home depot. You know nothing about this industry obviously 🤣🤣🤣
Time to do another video gear attitude for the best company in industry what an example!
@@id71478083 You just single-handedly unsold me.
I was scheduled to start selling for leafilter this coming no day where I was going to be learning their "sales pitch" , but the response by this arrogant sales guy pretty much made me change my mind....not only that , if the market demand supported 35 bucks a lineal foot which obviously it does not , then I won't waste my time standing in a homeowners house and embarrassing myself with all the price drops DEMONSTRATING the product is not worth the asking price in the first place ...but I'm glad I came here to here HOW they try to market their over priced product...
I just had Leaf Filter gutter guards installed on my home and detached garage, all together 140 linear feet. The sales rep initially quoted me a price of $11,626 ($83.04 per linear foot). I kept bargaining him down and he dropped the price to $7,455 ($53.25 per linear foot) then $3,622 ($25.87 per linear foot) to finally $2,532 ($18.09 per linear foot). And after watching this video I feel like I STILL overpaid! You KNOW their original price is WAY overblown when they can "give" you a "discount" of 79% and still be making a profit.
I have friends who had a 20-ft. length of Leaf Filter installed on their home and they were charged $1200 ($60 per linear foot) because it didn't occur to them that they could negotiate the price.
Thank you for your videos; you are performing a valuable service for homeowners!!!!!!
Thanks for this video- I had a similar situation. The sales rep started around $7500, with about 25% discount they came down to ~$5600. The next morning, he came down to 4555 because of a “job cancellation in our area and wanted to fit us in.” After watching this video, I called him to negotiate down and we ended at $3500 - more than half of the starting cost. Thanks you for this video and saving us.
Thank you Dmitry, you're doing good service with this blog! I also had a Leaf Filter pitch, told them to keep it short and the rep complied. Pricing is the typical start very high then cut in half, in line with your per sq.ft.cost estimate. I read further in your viewers comments and saw the info on algae growth and potential maintenance, makes sense - very concerning, I cancelled the installation. Gonna go with traditional cleaning and maintenance. Keep up the good work.
I signed a contract for new " LeafFilters" gutters back in Oct and was informed that I would be contacted for a Pre- install Inspection. that was done within 2 weeks of the contract. I was told someone would contact me within 24-48 hours about when job could be started.
Well I called the company as was told someone would contact me within 24 hrs. I waited a week and call Customer service and was told Maybe they were withing for the materials. Waited and other week ans was tol someone would contact me within 24 hrs. Nope didn't happen. Again I called and given the same per-written speech .. 24hrs here it is now Dec and nothing nadda, nix from this company
Thank you! Thank You! THANK YOU!!!. I just had a brand new roof installed two days ago with gutters and was going to call leaf filter to get an estimate on their leaf guard system...but after seeing this I will pass and shop around.
actually the guy that posted all this is an idiot and knows nothing about gutters or roof warrantys if he did in his video he wouldnt touch the shingles knowing it would void the roof warranty. Please everyone call a professional dont count on all these guys trying to sell some inferior product.
@@cldemaine She was saying she was going to call Leaf Filter about their ‘leaf guard’ system- she knows which company is being talked about. I am sure some sales reps are better than others. mine was terrible.
I found Leaf Filter at a home show and scheduled an appointment. Then I read all the negative press about their high pressure sales tactics and phoney discounts. I called them to cancel the appointment and the rep on the phone launched into all sorts of pressure to keep or reschedule. I could not get her to confirm the cancellation until I told her if a rep set foot on my property I would have him arrested. Stay far away from these people.
I had a similar experience several days ago, after I read so many negative reviews I called to cancel the appt. The phone rep tried to talk me out of it, but finally agreed. However, several hours later, someone from Leaf Filter shows up at my home, claiming no knowledge of the cancellation! I believe the phone rep never told the installer that I had cancelled in the hope he could make the sale anyway! I told him I wasn’t interested and he left without a word. This company is the worst, and I’m glad I saw those reviews, let the buyer beware!
Damn, it was that bad huh ? Worse than a used car sales rep.
I am a gutter installer who has OCD/and a perfectionist. Please Consider: Fact: The open mouth of a gutter is a trap - Fiction: There is a perfect solution. Fact: Meshes, foam pad inserts,micro screens, just clog up. There are 4 products from the best system I found alu-rex.com. All are perforated aluminum: #1- #5300 cover/topper (with a flow restriction lip) and is retro/ Reno (installed on existing gutter as a after market product) #2-5200 a new construction continuous hanger ( NOT a TOPPER ) it is the hanger that is running and supporting the entire length of the gutter and is superior because it is not the weaker spaced system of spikes or spaced hangers. #3 #5800 a heavier gauge aluminum which is even stronger that I can stand on! #4 DoublePro designed for finer particles using 2 layers to help flush out fine stuff with the Venturi effect. Conclusion: you will get some debris build up and fine particles like roof grains but this system is way better than every other I’ve seen. With this one I don’t get complaints/call-back. It does require some maintenance. One eg. Is where wind cannot help blow out debris like on an inside corner or sheltered area however a quick swipe off the top is easy compared to digging muck out of the gutter trap or bottom. But some critics cannot recognize the benefits (perhaps some critics have black and white thinking -either approve or condemn) This is a good coping mechanism and will help reduce maintenance.
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I signed a contract for new " LeafFilters" gutters back in Oct and was informed that I would be contacted for a Pre- install Inspection. that was done within 2 weeks of the contract. I was told someone would contact me within 24-48 hours about when job could be started.
Well I called the company as was told someone would contact me within 24 hrs. I waited a week and call Customer service and was told Maybe they were withing for the materials. Waited and other week ans was tol someone would contact me within 24 hrs. Nope didn't happen. Again I called and given the same per-written speech .. 24hrs here it is now Dec and nothing nadda, nix from this company
A guy had come over to buy to inform us about the gutters and he had told us that to install new gutters was going to cost 4200 dollars. He had used he's sells tactic and pressured my mom to cave in and she sign up. He had that she could get a finance and pay $70 a month for five years. I was like that don't sound good at all, but she had already sign the contract. I did my research and found out that she had three days to cancel. And I told the guy to cancel the contract for her the next day. After she canceled the contract, the guy had said that for future reference he could give me a deal of two thousand dollars less. You can't trust no one out there. Although he gave us really good tips and even pointed out some issues that the house had that weren't aware since we had just bought the house and now, we know we got to fix lol.
Hey Id like to say thanks for this video, I had leaf Filter come out and give a quote yesterday they started at 8K for 144 feet of gutter, then with discount went down to 6, then becuause i had to jump start his car it went down to 3400 i told him 2500 and we agreed on 2600. being installed today. thanks because of this video i felt i could negotiate it!
How was the install service and how has it been working?
@@AnatoleBranch the installer was very nice and its been working well
i have my gutters cleaned spring,summer ,and fall...80 dollars per visit plus tip...and now i sleep...so 300 a year...no filter...no cover... i live next to a pine tree and maple...right next to the roof...sometimes low tech is the best tech
80 dls? That is too little too. A dólar a foot it’s a decent and fair price, for 80 dls On a house that is 140 ft + of gutter is like taking advantage of the gutter guy’s need too and fair for them either.
Talk about leaves COVERING the screen, preventing rain from entering.
Hi all, using this video today (12/14/20) I was able to negotiate from 39/ft to 12.50/ft. Very happy with that price. I found this video on a whim and it ended up saving me thousands. Once he realized I did some research he stopped trying to sell me high, and just take the sale at 12.50
They go as low as $11. Salesman gets nothing but the sale is good for their closing ratio
Cripes! Wish I had watched this video BEFORE my recent Leaf Filter sales visit . Most comments are right on the money. My estimate started at $10,700 for a ranch house with 230+ linear feet of gutters. That came down to $7,000 after a long sales talk and the "notebook" for visual reinforcement. I said 'no' and he got in his car to leave. One minute later a knock on the door - WHY DID I ANSWER THE DOOR? - and I got the same pitch mentioned in other comments about a lower price as a "commercial contract" AND the final pitch that hooked me ... due to Covid they really needed to sell product to keep their employees busy. So, I did sign for $6300.
Now I could kick myself for over paying for this product. This had better be the best damn gutter guard product ever, AND I will tell myself that I helped keep someone employed.
What was the contract price when you signed? Has it worked out?
WOWWWWW. Thanks for this video. I bought a 5 yr old home a few months ago and its a tall house and the gutters are clogged. I found Leaf Filter online and submitted my info but in doing my due diligence I found this video, and to be honest I'm not even going to bother with Leaf Filter if they try to pitch me at $32 per ft. I may look for a different option all together.
smarter than me
I had a similar experience with a rep recently. Started impossibly high, then came down, then came down again, then came down again. I do not like being highballed and working down from there, nor being put on the spot to sign immediately without an opportunity to review the contract thoroughly or evaluate the supposed "lifetime warranty" which inevitably will have so many exceptions that the company will never be liable.
Exactly! I was today asked to sign this "deal" or "loose it".. and I was like hypnotized and signed it! By the time I came back to my senses and realized what have I just done, he was long gone. I've now asked for cancellation (thank god state law allows you to cancel such contracts within a stipulated time frame). No matter how good their product is, and I believe it is a good product, no one likes to go through this experience! I would rather get a local contractor to do with home-depot material and clean it once an year myself.
@@VivekTiwari00 No, it's NOT, I repeat, not a good product. It's horrible. It will keep junk out of the gutters, BUT the junk just piles up on top of the filters and jambs the whole system up. Then the water goes over the gutters and wicks back into wood components. Trust me, I got suckered into a $4300.00 leaffilter scam 2 months ago. It's rained twice and they are jammed up already. Next week I'm ripping them off my house and straight to the dump. Oh, and no money back!! DON'T EVER TAKE THE BAIT ON ANY OF THESE GUTTER SYSTEMS. JUST PAY TO HAVE THEM CLEANED OUT A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR.
This is my personal experience. A Leaf Filter rep came to my home and tried to sell me their product for $18,500 (338 linear ft total). That's almost $55/ft! Needless to say I was really shocked. I didn't any research beforehand so I had no idea how much Leaf Filter should cost but similar to othwes experienced, this sales rep was so aggressive and spent over an hour with his 3 ring binder hard selling it to me. He gave me two estimates, one good for that day (but he wouldn't give me till EOD to decide) and one supposedly good for a year (but 30% higher) and then pressured me into making a decision on the spot. It was probably one of the most uncomfortable conversations I had had in my life. I said I would call him back and he said no customer would ever call back and pay the higher price. What kind of company is that??? If you're so confident about your product, why wouldn't you let your customer do some research and decide? I kept saying it's a lot of money and need more time to decide. He lowered his price from $18k to $14k and then he started suggesting skipping some sections of the house and selling it at $10k or even installing gutters without protection at a lower price! I currently have gutters with protection, just not all the way around my house. Why the hell would I pay him to remove my protection!?!? I said I would call him back but he was so upset he couldn't make a sale he wouldn't even leave his number. I can't imagine how many people this company has duped with this sales model teying to sell their product at 10 times the cost. This is probably how they got to $1 billion sales. I don't care how good your product is, you treat your customers like idiots, word is going to get around and damage your reputation.
Thank you for your description. I had exactly the same experience today!! F that guy.
That's crazy they pay the installer a dollar a foot lol
Great video!!! Thanks for looking out for us consumers. 😁
Our pleasure!
I am an installer for them right now. I do installs, and service calls. They sale this crap as "never clog" but in a lot of cases, thats just not true. Ive been to dozens of homes that have over flow, do to the mesh being clogged. I have hundreds of pictures. Yhe product IS NOT and i repeat, NOT maintenance free as they pitch it. Ive sat and listened to customer care and sales reps lie to the customer as im standing there while the customer calls on speaker phone. Its the most embarrassing thing for me. I do what i can to make the customer happy, but once the lie is told, its difficult to make it right. The mesh has to be free of debris to work properly. Although the product does make cleaning 100 times easier, and much faster. You still need to blow, sweep, or hose the mesh off from time to time, so the product will work properly. Thats my two cents. Hope it helps.
+jay hughes thanks for sharing, it helps
I'm not sure why anyone would tell customers its 100% maintenance free. When people tell me this all I can say is name one thing you have bought that's 100% maintenance free. Everyone should know that's just not possible. Now some work way better than others. Leaf filter is not one of them.
@@Herloss32 warranty if the gutter ever clogs. I could give that warranty with a piece of sheet metal covering the gutter.
@@Jbladii
You are correct, they will back charge an installer if we dont do the install properly, and the way they trained us to install it. I take, before and after pictures of all the installs, and service calls I do. Just incase.
The product itself, is not bad. But if im being honest, the sales pitch should be brought down a notch. Its simply not as hassle free as they would want you to believe. The expectation is set way to high during the sales pitch.
People just want the product to work they way they were told it would. Cant blame them..😁🤷♂️
@@Herloss32, Free of charge?
This is the best review of what one should pay I've ever seen anywhere. You present well. In my opinion (in a perfect world) there should be very little negotiating. I don't negotiate for a TV, a washing machine, or a sofa so why should I have to listen to some BS sales pitch and have to negotiate for the best price on a gutter system?
Good point
negotiation is going to be a thing when commission is in play... but they take it to the extreme it would be like going to the dealership and they put a 40k sticker price on a 20k coupe just to see if you're dumb enough to pay it
I wonder if you felt this way if your elderly family got screwed. Its not dumb to not know something
We got the Leaf filter I liked the material that they used good quality but was super expensive. We paid 8,000. one week ago.
A local guy would have purchased the material from Home Depot and labor he wanted 2,000. was very tempting but because of the wind, cold weather, and brutal snow.
I can get a guy to clean the gutters for 75 bucks.
That is wild money for gutter guards. I watched the first review and made my decision by buying the best one he recommended from Home Depot. I did my entire house and garage (3200sqft house) for $180 ($1.5/ft) and these thing work great. Ya I had to get up on a ladder, but I did that every year to clean them anyways. Not going up there ever again for $180!!!!! (Hopefully)
I have crape myrtles around my house and the leaves being small mat down in the steep valleys of my roof. I think they would have no trouble matting down on the horizontal surfaces of these leaf guards.
Building my house and your channel is amazing! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the video, I have been through the same with Leaf Filter, actually two different sales reps came and gave two different prices in a 2 week window period.
Totally agree with you about Leaf Filter!!! I had a sales rep come to my home for a free estimate. He started the quote at 5k dropping down to 4K but if I sign a contract with him before he left $3920.00. Then he got on the phone with his manager and dropped again to $2200.00. I thought I was at the used car lot lol. The high pressure sales tactics really turned me OFF! I just wanted to get a few quotes before I signed up with anyone but I spent the better part of 2 and a half hours with this guy and was about to go all “GET OFF MY LAWN DUDE!” Long story short I went with another company. The price was about the same as his final quote and they also had the Micromesh product. Homeowner beware!!!
Had the same sale pitch to my wife & I, did not buy their sales pitch. Yes, buyer be ware.
I had same pitch today. Can you share what company you ended up going with?
@@anthonyyoung2175 “Homecraft”
@@Mikki-N-Tennessee thanks!
My 82 yr old father just had this done..1 level house including two downspouts replaced..$3500...I looked at invoice/hand written contract and zero breakdown of cost or labor to install..just a nice round number at the bottom....dude showed up at 4 on a Saturday and was gone by 5:30
very sad only
@@RoofingInsights3.0 they have no right and wrong in their heats. Picking on the elderly and disabled to make a living will cause sever judgement one day soon for these crooks
This video was super helpful! Thank you.
The salesperson at my home tried selling this to me for $9000 initially - and discounted it down to $7,600 before walking out as final offer valid for only 24 hours.
Then 5 days later they texted me saying the had left over material from another job and can give it to me at cost and quoted me $3,900
250 linear foot of gutter - so came down from $32 per foot to $15.5 per foot - exactly same price Whats shown in the video.
I sent them this video link. Expect some views from leaf filter HQ!
Hope they stop this price gouging strategy!
I was really turned off by the high pressure sales tactics from them. First off, it's an hour long session between him measuring gutters and giving the sales pitch, so be ready for that. I have a decent sized house, but simple gable roof with 2 porches. They wanted $3900 ish. But the "price good for today only" before the salesman left was $2800. Luckily I told him I have to discuss it with my wife first and would get back to him. I didn't get back to him. Got a text from the salesman a week later saying they would do it for $1680. Still didn't respond because in my head I knew those would have trouble with heavy rains, and some testimonials confirmed that with moss. I'm glad I didn't go with them. I'm just going to get a shop vac extension and clean them myself without having to get on a ladder (which was the only reason I considered them). So lesson for everyone else, have only one of you home when the LeafGuard guy comes so you have an "out" and time to think about making a decision. haha.
Any product for which the price is good only today reeks of higfh pressure sales tactics to get a sale through. If the price is good today it should be good tomorrow. One day or one week does not shift the material or labor price, unless you are buying a volatile stock in the stock market.
I bought two packs of these plastic covers 36 inches long, 10 in a box, for $24 a box free shipping on eBay. It took me longer to climb up the ladder than it did to take me to slide one edge under the first row of shingles which held them in place. I put them up in September every year because I have big trees in the front of my house that fill the gutters.. in December, I take them off because there’s no issue with the gutters clogging because the leaves are done Falling here in western Pennsylvania. So for under 50 bucks, and about 30 minutes work, which the biggest part of the job was moving the ladder, I covered my gutters in the front of my house with Leaf guard filters. I don’t know what brand they are, some generic something or other. I don’t leave them on over the winter because they will get snow accumulation, and with the freeze thaw cycle they ice over, and the melting snow does not go into the gutter when they are iced over..
unfortunate that my gutters in the front of my house are only about 8 feet up above the ground. In the back of my house, they are about 25 feet up because my house is built on a slope. I don’t care if those gutters overflow in a big rain because The water can’t get in the house if the ground is saturated in the back. But it did in the front of my house when hurricane Ivan passed over Pennsylvania I couple decades ago. I got about a gallon or two of water in my game room on the floor covering an area about the size of a pool table. That happened because my gutters were filled with leaves and didn’t take the water away from the house..
So for under 50 bucks. Problem solved
Congrats you also just voided your roof warranty by sliding those under your shingles.
Wow so easy!
Good material here. I bought Leaf Filter perhaps 4 or 5 years ago, before they were well known to me at least. I just had a new roof installed and all of it was ripped off, and is not really replaceable. I will say it worked pretty well in an area with a right angle around the pool. In any event the sales pitch sounds familiar. Prices started so high I laughed and said i'd consider it. Finally over the phone I got appx. 100 ft. installed for $1,350 as I recall. But like everywhere I read now, there really is no really good solution to keeping your gutters clean over the long-haul. Maintenance, cleaning out the holes, and screens will be required.....an improvement yes, but I will leave my gutters as they are from this point on.
Leaf filter estimate for me 128 feet start 5200 after 3600 all time he was saying because retired it is deduction i told too much i paid roof 3000 he sad ok good price for you 2500 but next day they didn't come as was promised i cancel and was happy
Thanks for the negotiate tip! Ended up paying a bit less than half their list price!!
Thanks for sharing
and you still got screwed
@@henrycrawford2697 everyone has to make money .. money makes the world go round .. I just watched this video . second home iim putting it on . my take away is Honeybuns cant be in the room .... I beat up my first installment I thought pretty good , but after watching this iim ready for round two .. im gunna make Lincoln cry and the salesman ...
A Leaffilter rep JUST left my house, I called them to get an estimate. The before negotiation price I got was a cool $12,400.00 for 225 linear feet. BUT, if I agreed to be a “backup” customer, with a verbal agreement TODAY, he could lock me in at $6000! 🤣
Was your quote for brand new gutters plus the guard? Or just the guard?
Thank you!!! I had had a horrible time with the free estimate and knew something was really wrong! For 140 linear feet I got the contract down from about $7500 plus taxes, to $6500 plus taxes and then $3000 all in. After watching your video I rescinded the contract as it is still about double what it should be!!! And they don't even clean the gutters on the outside, so I am left to hire someone else anyway
I played old lady on a fixed income. So it came down but here’s the issue I had: bad installation. They sealed over dirty gutters. Part of the deal was “we clean the gutters.” They did some of it but left the main gutter clogged and I can’t get to it to clean it. Let’s see if they honor their warranty.
Absolutely love everything you said. Can't believe they left the guy at $18 a foot at 4400. Insane business model. Out here in California that plastic cannot handle this desert heat and it's warping in the first year. Your micro mesh is the exact same stuff I use out here that I get from Wisconsin and your Price is Right in line with mine! Great video, I'm going to play it at the next Fresno home show next weekend on a big screen, good thing we're not in the same building hahaha
My house has about 165 LFT of gutters. LEAF FILTER Sales rep turned up earlier than scheduled. Waited in the cold. 1st price $ 6700.00. Showed me a review from Consumer reports as being top of the line. BTW it is winter and we are slow, we can do S 4500. I said I will get back to you. Price dropped to $ 3500.00 and down to $ 3000.00 and any day of your choosing. Checked consumer reports, could not find any review.
Decided to buy similiar product online from Amazon. Got a roofer to install it. Total cost Labor and Material = $ 900.00. My gut feeling that I am being played was just beacuse of the rapid price drops. Unscruplous sales persons.
That’s must be embarrassing for leaf filter. You would think they would listen to all online comments and start changing their sales tactics but no: they will keep doing it till they hurt. I think it’s time for another video. Thanks for taking time to share your experience!!!
@@RoofingInsights3.0 Yes. Keep up the good work. Information is power. More consumers are educated, better their decisions
Yes you are being played. It's how their sales process works. Start high, give a discount, ask you to buy. You say no. They drop the price again if you're "flexible" for the install date. You still say no. Then magically some lefterover material appears and your price drops to $12/ft
For $750 I would have install aluminum Bulldog leaf guard on your gutters with a 25-year no clog warranty because no matter what if you have a shingle roof the granules will still get inside the leaf guard. You still got ripped off by the roofer as well. Shop around a little next time you can find a family-owned business that would have taken care of you.
I'll tell you my price is right now I charge $4.50 a foot for leaf guard $5.50 to $6.50 depending on how technical the job is if they want strip miters or if they would like handcrafted corners or even the rookie box miters. And it's a little ridiculous when companies charge $100 for a 10-foot downspout when a downspout only cost them $6 bucks you take the three elbows you're using plus a downspout that's considered as 13 foot you add that into your total footage each elbow is one foot.
You are 100% Right, as a former leaf filter salesman I couldn’t rip off customers for profit! Quit within a week!
God bless you!! They got us big time. You've gotta be a wonderful human being!!
Just had a LeafFilter sales 'presentation'. Guy was quick, great info and nice/respectful.. Admitted that the product needs to be cleared at times (like ALL gutter guards). I don't have the linear feet. Started at $6,800 then a 30% off promotion and even more if you sign today... Price went down to $3,500. He did a soft, hard sell (my boss says....). But yea, starting high and trying to convince me I'm getting a deal, when I have other estimates around $2,500...
Before you purchase this faulty product
Read the class action law suit against leaf filter North the case is Zelinski v leaf filter North
It will tell you all you need to know
Given supply chain issues have the numbers changed?
All you have to do is take note of all the advertising they do to know they're pricing will be extremely inflated. They flood the market with ads everywhere, TV, newspapers, magazines, online, etc. In my Sunday paper today there were three ads alone. Who do think pays for all that advertising. You do. Even $4400 is way, way to much for gutter protection. There are excellent solutions out there for 1/4 of that.
exactly. They are everywhere.
$6000 for 300 linear feet. Probably the worst deal I've ever made. Brand new house with new gutters in place. They used 1 installer, 1 day installing screens for $20 a foot. It's been 3 years and I'm still upset.
Your not alone. They lied to me and stuck it to e good
Man, i see a lot of bad reviews. Mostly about the sales pitches. I ended up paying $18/ft. for leaffilter. It was around $3,000 total. I've had them for a year and they work great however, I don't get many leaves, just pine needles and shingle run off so maybe that's why? I will say the only bad experience was the installer. He left about 60 screws in my driveway and more materials scattered around my house. Seemed in a rush but they work great for me.
Even 4400 dollars still sounds to much for leaf filter gutters.
Agreed
I also had Leaf Filter provide an estimate. The first quote was (210 feet) $17K and after 15 minutes of why they are better sales talk, then dropped to $11K apparently from my facial expression... I told them I am having other estimates done and would get back to them in a couple days. Received a text that afternoon saying they had over runs from a commercial job and could do it for $3,200. But I had to accept now or they would have to put it back in the warehouse. I clean the gutters, installing a guard is really easy. I purchased Waterlock Micromesh from Amazon (better product) and installed myself for $1K. Actual gutter length was 194 feet. I run commercial construction projects for a living. That type of sales pitch is ridiculous. Always get multiple quotes!
I just signed for a project with Leaf Filter. 75 linear feet, $1042. 6" gutters. $13.89/ft. I think that seems like a fair deal given everything that I am reading here. I am also a salesman, so I just wrote off some of the "I am not making a lot on your sale, but hope to pick up more business on your street." as a fair sales thing to say, but I am sure he is making something. I hope he is. I will say that my experience so far has been very positive. They are going to do the install tomorrow.
Not sure about your area, but he likely made $0 on it.
Quick question: How do you measure the linear feet -- just the gutters themselves, or including the downspouts?
@@afrocraft1 They use a measuring wheel to measure gutters, tape measurer or laser measurer for downspouts (depending on how high). The Downspouts are only measured if your replacing gutters and installing the filters. So, if your gutters are metal and do not need replacing, you dont factor in the downspouts on the linear ft.
He absolutely made $0 on this sale. I just want to point out, MOST sales reps would rather volunteer their time in getting you a product that protects your home and keeps you off a ladder than pressure you into paying for something you cant afford. And if you could afford the gutters, consider getting that sales rep a $20 gift card for gas, sounds like he deserves it.
Your either lucky or just havent had the full lifetime warranty scam pulled yet.
Thanks for the video... I saw a commercial for LeafFilter and thought it could be handy for my house... but started to feel "off" about the company when, as soon as I put in for a quote on their website, they called less than a minute later. And they've been calling at least once a day since...I've had experience with companies like that before, and usually the best course of action is to choose another company. Glad I saw your video, as well as reading through the comments, it sounds like I'm making the right decision. I may have to answer just to try and get them to stop calling... definitely not a fan of the "high ball, but we can drop the price to..." sales pitch that it sounds like they employ.
Leaf Filter came to my house for an estimate. They started out at $10,800. I almost flipped out and said no way that I couldn't afford that. After going back and forth for a while we wound up signing a contract for $5700. I thought Even that was too much but we went ahead with it. I asked if it would be an actual Leaf Filter employee that would do the install and they guaranteed me it would beTo days later a sub-contractor showed up to do the install.
I received a free estimate from “an educator” from Leaf Filter today. The person said they did not make a commission and was on salary, she was an educator not a sales person and received no commission. The price started at $5600 and the first drop came down to $2900. I felt like the first quote was an attempt of theft as soon as I resisted the price dropped almost in half??? Wow, buyer beware....
The entire scheme is a bunch of lies. Not much different from the covid "cases" that are being used to instill fear
@@ecolocalguy When some body from your family will die (I'm not wishing you that) from COVID 19 then you may understand that is not a fake.
I recently got a great deal on my 15 square roof for my house+garage. $4500 family price. Leaffilter came out and quoted me $6,314 for 154 feet of gutters. NO WAY in hell should it cost more than the roof! After some talking he gave me a very super special offer of $3,000 if I sign today. I told him I dont deal with shady business tactics and to get off my property. LOL!
Out of the "50's sales presentation". He claimed that Consumer Reports gave LeafFilter was awarded #1 = not so. The first best deal was $2500 for 85', his second-best deal was $2250= we rejected as twice as high as competitors. 8 hours later their best deal dropped to $1100 but only good until midnight? I would have easily agreed to a $ 1400 price because I was impressed with the product but the sales push made me suspicious. The salesman probably did not have a choice on how to present but we are senior citizens and are wary of pushy presentations.
Leaf filters do not work! had mine installed before they could finish the job i checked the snow melting and it was running down the roof over the leaf filter and on my deck.I can see why they dont clog the gutters the water wont even go thru completly
I am in the process of removing gutter guard yet again.To remove the tiny-holed stainless steel expensive guard is painful and like all gutter guard eventually, the gutter fills and a horrid job. Don't get gutter guards!
My leaf filter guy just started out at nearly $17,000 and dropped to $6,100 IF he didn’t become so aggressively pushy toward the end of his presentation he could have made a sale. I was uncomfortable by his tone and some comments and needed to end the interaction.
thank you so much for sharing
Sounds like my experience, started at 17k then to 6k . Signed and then called next day yo cancel . It didn’t sit well with me . Thank god for state right to cancel In 3 days ! Don’t like bs !
Could you do one for Englert LeafGuard? I had a sales rep come and quote for 224’ of gutter and 182’ of downspouts for a two story house with admittedly some weird roof lines. It started at $20k then $17k and finally $12k. I know they’re expensive but I don’t know how far $12k is still overpriced. Ive only found 1 or 2 people taking about this brand and pricing.
Been in the business for 25 years, subbed work for leaf filter for a few years. You have to be insane to pay that amount of money for gutter guards. Don't fall for it
I hope you did a better job of installing than I got. They left my gutters clogged with debris and I can’t get get in there to clean it. Part of the job and the deal, and I made sure thy wrote it on the estimate, was gutter cleaning because I wouldn’t be able to clean the gutters once it was in.
@cricketthoffman9499 we litterly just removed 8000 worth leaf guard from a lady who had a new roof put on, and couldn't even put it back on cuz they are hacks. Had to charge her more to put a different product on. Her gutters were half full and her filter was ass clogged with there great screen mesh they put on top. Garbage product trust me. I put the affordable kind on and give them 2 free cleanings a year, cuz u still have to blow off the debri, cuz It will pile up. It will not wash off like the try and sell you.
Had my gutters cleaned split level $160 best deal around!
Glad to hear you found a deal to your liking!
Thanks for the tip! I have a truck, ladders and willingness to work!
@@gerardgmz Small cape, 100 ft gutters ( measured today before I sent him on his way). How much to clean? And where are you located.
@@susieq7360
Central Texas
I only have 70 feet of gutter and they quoted me 3400... I almost laughed in his face. he could tell I wasn't interested at that point and without me asking he moved down to 2600. I'm still not interested but good to know I should be paying half that! thanks
Thanks for sharing!!! Yes, leaf filter sales system is a joke and insult to most people with common sense
@@RoofingInsights3.0 you were right on point- they got back to me again today and dropped their price further! less than 1200 now when they originally proposed 3400... so from $40+ per foot to about $17 per foot. I am going to go with them as I like the product just the price was holding me back thanks for the videos, u got a new sub!
Matt Grizzle lol, I hope they don’t watch this or read comments
@@StormGroupRoofing they can, what do I care lol. it's a quality product, it's just their sales tactics are scummy.
@@StormGroupRoofing are you roofing insights?
Hey, I really appreciate your work. I have a RUclips channel here in germany, too. You are a true inspiration when it comes to pick new topics. 👍
Keep on going!
Du hasst recht. Er ist wunderbar.
Pick a topic you know something about next time
So how much for 200’ of new gutters, 9 2x3 downspouts, 6 miters and 200’ of leaf guard ? I had an initial offer of 13k, then by the time they left it dropped to $6430 with 0 % financing for 36 months
thanks for sharing!!! Yep, thats how they operate, just like used car dealers 10 years ago.
FYI Roofers have been over charging for a long time. Lets hear u break down the costs of your industry.
Omg leaf filter just left my home , at 4,300
& leaf guard quoted 13k😳. This is crazy
Cost is important. If you pay $4,400.00 for a gutter guard, you could have hired someone to clean your gutters for at least 20 years.
You are 100% right!!
Good luck finding someone to show up.
@@jaym.4611 i have guys coming by all the time offering to do it and have never had a problem getting someone to do it.
Interesting experience on getting an estimate from "Leaffilter", high pressure sales today only price now! He went from 6,400 down to 3,900. He got upset 😡 that I would not comment. He must have lost his way of the meaning of an estimate! In my opinion it is overpriced!
Just thought I would share my experience with "Leaffilter"
The leaves still can easily cover the screen. That should be obvious just from the commercials. Duh!!!
I just received a quote today and got the same line to a T! $33.50 sq ft!
what did you do?
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I am going to go to HD and buy their wire mesh product. I figure at $2 a LF if it does not work no big deal. The trick is the install as getting up on a two story roof can get a bit dicey. I am having my roof replaced so I am working with the contractor to install them for me. No doubt it will be significantly less than the $33/LF. Thanks for you insight. Very helpful! Well done.
Do a review of Gutter shutter…they charge $46 a linear foot…I used to work for them…
They sent a text saying they will do it for half quoted price because of left over material from commercial job
I just received the same text.
Lol...they do not do commercial work. That line is a flat out lie to get you to buy "at cost"
me too!!! OMG!!!!
12$ to 20$. Thanks Dmitry!
I had a Leaf filter rep came today and He quoted me $5800 on a 2900 square feet house. To make the story short he came down on the price to $3992 then $2500 if I pay cash. He told me I'm not here to spend an hr and not get the product. Very rude and very defensive. I told him to leave my house. People. Stay away from them.
Well I got the same pitch from leaf filters last week , they started high and really low so for 3,300$ for 126 feet for the gutters and the filter installed I guess it's not bad because they guaranty everything as long as the house stays which means if I sell my house it's still under warranty plus every year I have big ice issues because of my tin roof and my gutters are ripped off every time so I just can't wait and see.
Their warranty is worthless. Their product is the same. They've been here twice and problems still not resolved.
Warning:; Leaf Filter personnel ARE NOT GUTTER SPECIALISTS and will screw up your gutter system if you let them. This is from personal experience. They recommended a new section of gutter and/or realignment. They could not provide an adequate plan for replacement, so I opted for an adjustment and they screwed it up. I had to drill holes in my gutter and add downspouts were they could not solve the issue. They did a crappy job putting their cheap caps on my gutter and they resisted heavily when I tried to get them to correct their mistakes and honor their commitments made during the initial in-person consultation! In addition, their story change from the initial estimate when they came out a second time. Do not use this service!!!!!! Seattle area...
Sounds like very common experience with them.
One of my lawn clients just paid 13k dollars for the leaf filter gutter guards on her 10 year old gutters. When she told me I almost crapped myself. And no, it wasn't 1300 it was 13,000 dollars. WTF man, I should find that salesman and kick him in the nuts.
Find him and finish the mission
My guy came and told me the "retail price"of $2200, but he said that's not the price we charge he did some figuring and asked me if I liked saving money (who doesn't?) So of course I said yes and he said $980 and I was just going to do it but then reading all of these reviews online but I'll probably do it anyway because this is Kentucky and we don't get allot of snow and ice and cross my fingers.
Their high pressure sales are the #1 reason I said no to them. I don't care how great your product is, if you are pitching it to me like a scene from Glengarry Glen Ross I'm going to pass. edit: Also thanks for the awesome video and advice.
I am a gutter installer who has OCD/and a perfectionist. Please Consider: Fact: The open mouth of a gutter is a trap - Fiction: There is a perfect solution. Fact: Meshes, foam pad inserts,micro screens, just clog up. There are 4 products from the best system I found alu-rex.com. All are perforated aluminum: #1- #5300 cover/topper (with a flow restriction lip) and is retro/ Reno (installed on existing gutter as a after market product) #2-5200 a new construction continuous hanger ( NOT a TOPPER ) it is the hanger that is running and supporting the entire length of the gutter and is superior because it is not the weaker spaced system of spikes or spaced hangers. #3 #5800 a heavier gauge aluminum which is even stronger that I can stand on! #4 DoublePro designed for finer particles using 2 layers to help flush out fine stuff with the Venturi effect. Conclusion: you will get some debris build up and fine particles like roof grains but this system is way better than every other I’ve seen. With this one I don’t get complaints/call-back. It does require some maintenance. One eg. Is where wind cannot help blow out debris like on an inside corner or sheltered area however a quick swipe off the top is easy compared to digging muck out of the gutter trap or bottom. But some critics cannot recognize the benefits (perhaps some critics have black and white thinking -either approve or condemn) This is a good coping mechanism and will help reduce maintenance.
I'm a contractor in Myrtle Beach I've heard so many horror story's about leaf filter would not recommend
When a screen that goes on your gutters cost 5times as much as the gutters and they have to offer financing they are way overpriced
Ok but no one's talking about how it has a lifetime transferrable warranty. I didn't want my gutters to clog and they haven't for past 3 years and I have trees HUGGING my house. I've also made back what I spent on it with the value increase from refinancing.. idk man...
lifetime warranty is good for one year and service calls cost$95 under warranty. what a deal. Also, the warranty only covers what's inside of gutters.They will be clean because NOTHING {water and Debree } goes through the micro mesh cover.
Had a rep come by and told me it was 5K then he discounted it to 3,900K ...I'm will be looking for other options and negotiate the price
Would love to help! Most of our contractors install high quality micro mesh: roofinginsights.com/directory, let me know if you can’t find one in your area
Don't waste your money on LeafFilter. Their guarantee is worthless. The filters will clog and they will tell you the guarantee is only for keeping things out of the gutter, not for clogged covers/filters. Stay away. Stay FAR away.
if you want to get a good price, just get a product online, from the amazon or from other store, hire a roofer and he will happily install it for you. All together you will probably pay 1/2 of the price full specialized company charge for it because you will cut out cute receptionist, sales person, team manager and all bunch of other people from equation. As for warranty, its a bloody piece of aluminium. There is a reason most companies give you lifetime warranty on it.
I just called to book an appt....they were offering me a discount if my spouse was present....is that not odd? Cant give me a ballpark price on 160 linear feet of material on a bungalow because “it is based on the job”. Immediately after booking my appt I questioned the tactics, then found this video. As I suspected, hard sales tactics. Glad I was made aware of this before, I have no time for companies that lack integrity. If this is the manner in which sales are carried out then I question the foundation and management of such a business. Are there any other companies to consider for this?
Thanks for the tips! Just got a quote today from HomeCraft Gutter Protection. First quote $5,221 for 150 ft. install ($34.80/ft). I told the sales guy that after doing some research that a reasonable price was $16-18/ft. Second offer was $2,437 ($16.24/ft).
How convenient. Why he couldn’t give you good price in the first place? Do you negotiate for a car or TV this way too? 🤯🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@RoofingInsights3.0 Thieves they are
Our sales rep was good except they cant do it because our south side is too high so she was basically full of it
Don’t go with Leaf Filter, and I’m here to say why. I had them installed on my back patio gutter, only, and it was $3,000. That was a year ago this past March, and the gutter is already clogged. So I called them to have someone sent here to fix that. They said it would cost me $97, because my one year warranty was up. So much for their so called “Lifetime No Clogs Guarantee”
I have a 2 story home and the current system that was on the house when we bought it is failing bad. To do our whole gutter system was going to be about $5k. The reviews have me second guessing and thinking about canceling but seems like every system has bad reviews and issues… 🤦♂️
Yup, I had the same experience with leaf filter. $5000 for a straight 35' length. Costco sells a product similar for $3 per foot.
Crooks
In your video is the price you're referring to ($12 to $20) just for the guard or new gutters/downspouts and guard? If not for everything, what then would the price be?
Buyers Beware. Remember all gutter guards will need Manual labour. Soo keep your ladder handy.
Interesting experience on getting an estimate from "Leaffilter", high pressure sales today only price now! He went from 6,400 down to 3,900. He got upset 😡 that I would not comment. He must have lost his way of the meaning of an estimate! In my opinion it is overpriced!
Just thought I would share my experience with "Leaffilter"
Literally just had a leaf filter agent come to my home and offer to install for 10k. He just left and it was negotiated down to 4600 if I finance and 3800 to pay upfront.
Mine quit working..paid waaay too much! Never happen again...they lied!
Go figured. How much did you pay?
sails reps get 10% installers get 1$ p/foot 1 story , 1.50 p/foot second story / 5$ per corner
I got my leaffilter for 3000 and yeah it started out at 7500 I will see how it goes. I think it's not a bad price I have a big house.
you still got screwed. READ reviews on them working and how warranty works
They just finished my single story, 3br home. Looking at the material, I might pay $800 - $1000 for it, it took one installer 3 hours, and I received a "discount" of 10%, dropping the price from over $4000 to under $3850 or something. "Demitri" rounded the price to an even $3800. I didn't see anything special about the mesh, or the honeycombed plastic base under the mesh. The installer did hammer out a dent, claims to have added a sealant, and blew out my downspouts. All of that was part of the labor, which I estimate cost me about $1000 an hour. I should have shopped around. I wouldn't have gotten the cheapest, but I'm certain I could have received the same care at half the price. They also were VERY QUICK to deposit my check, which, to me, stinks of "take the money and run." I suspect that the "lifetime warranty" of the sealant means the warranty will last as long as the company does.
Thanks for sharing!!! Sorry, but you overpaid. Hope someone will watch it and save half the cost. And leaf filter probably could do it for $2000 and still make money. Just saying
I was hesitant about going through with this pressured insulation but now that I've seen your comment I know that I was correct that they are full of it
acpiper sorry you didn’t shop around , you could have saved 3,000 and still got them done with a warranty
Thank you for the informative video
Glad you found it informative!
Is this price per square foot target for REPLACING the gutters, AND installing the filters, or is it just for filters?
I agree that Leaf filter is TOO expensive. Royal rip off. They get angry when you don't accept their exorbitant prices. The examples he showed me listed prices per foot. Leaffilters listed $20 per foot but that is not what he quoted me. He said he measured 116 ft and he quoted me $5538; then gave me his big discount for today $3950. I did questions price and his integrity and told him I had learned not to make decisions 'today' unless it was a price I couldn't resist, which that one was not. So glad I ran across you on RUclips.
Do it your self with micro mesh from Home Depot for 3 bucks a foot. Even 12 bucks is a rip off.
Doing it yourself doesn’t justify the risk to fall and to be paralyzed or injured for the long time. Owner of gutter business fell of the 1 story roof installing covers 5-6 years ago. No joke
My 80 yr old mom just taken to the cleaners by Leaf Filter. They started off telling her that it would cost $24,000 to do her 2,000 square foot, single story house. Then they started taking of discounts and got the price down to $7,000, making my mom think that she was getting a really good deal. Shame on Leaf Filter.
Same thing happened to my elderly father… this company preys on the elderly.
@@heslind The same thing happened to me....Crooks
Can installation b done at nightime
Thanks for sharing everything! I want to share my experience with leaf filter unprofessional management in Ohio corporate offices, Springfield, MO., and North Carolina offices! Straight-line wind damage and lightning strike damages to my Mom`s house in September 2019! I am her son and resident at said damaged property and farm! BTW Mom is 74 years old now on a fixed income! Insurance claims denied on her house, gutters too, house damages due to lightning strikes! Of course, after the fact denied coverage of said damages for months to the house with insurance fraud denial of claims! After going through a contractor's approved site set up an appointment for leaf filter gutters! The same day the operation manager Springfield, MO. went to Mom's house got a check she paid in full about $5400.00 USD. The first day of installed company truck, trailer ran off gravel driveway damaging the yard twice in one day! Tow truck $125.00 for two minutes of work! Second time leaving the same day back into the yard again and got stuck! Gave the farm chain another company pick upvehicle pulled out truck gutter making trailer again! Had this day averbal agreement yard would be repaired in a timely matter! This was December 2019 whole install completed after three days of work! After countless calls, emails, liars, fraud as well on companies part! As well as more wind damage to new gutters! Two not even attached to the house! Thes gutters were ripped off the house by staughtline winds damaged gutters! Called many times thieves and liars in all locations mentioned! No lifetime warranty keep! Now as years of erosion as in the midwest! Over twelve thousand dollars in damages as erosion from severe thunderstorms, fort year 26 inches of rain in this region! snow, ice storms severe weather, sleet, hail ruts in the yard has caused ongoing damages for two years now! 2020 with all the tropical storms and remnants of hurricanes 55 inches of rainfall! As noted called asked for the HR department to report said employees' actions to date! Nothing was done or callbacks! As well no warranty honed as in writing on contract! Then lied to my mother about yard repairs as they know a dump truck and backhoe required hauling in the topsoil dirt, lime, fertilizer, base gravel top gravel for damaged driveway and now barn foundation eroded away!! Then seven types of different hay, grass seeds to plant the following spring after soil sample test for proper germination and soil test conducted by county!! They even lied about repairing one hundred feet away as many photos sent in emails! Repairing state-owned property as new fiber-optic lines installed that following year! One hundred sixty dollars landscaping paperwork! Sent all to DOT and US Senator for this region on fraud and invoice fraud! Beware, consumers of said product and company, as this is what happened with my mother home and experience of myself as setting up and see everything describe ir ongoing today with my own eyes! I witnessed and reported everything! Even called the Sherriff's department for reporting said crimes and fraud! Moms on a fixed income no civil lawsuit! Their product is junk! Fair warning people!
At the end of one of the leaf filter commercials, the wife of the only Black couple in the room said 'We're sold'. Because of what she was told to say, that commercial needs to be "REMOVED".
is this just for leaf filter(gutter cover) without gutter? once a Leaf Filter guy tried to sell me 6K whole house guarded gutter( leaf filter including gutter) installation. i turned him down. he literally told me " you waste my time "
Touche'...That's for wasting many a consumers money 💰 and time ⌚️ toooo