I wish I saw your video back in 2014 when I was beginning to be an atheist. I have abandoned the false path of atheism and have returned the Catholicism. And even if you are not Catholic yourself, that does not matter. You are clearly filled with the power of the Holy Spirit and your videos has helped me strengthen my faith. It is through your lectures on the Bible that I have come closer to God. Thank you
@@kyzendelaguia1063 100% hes gonna say only protestants are christians and catholics are catholic. I still dont underatand how people dont get this but yaknow people are slow sometimes
PLEASE, for the love of God, run FAST away from the catholic church. They are not rooted in truth, they never have been. Honestly, it goes against many important things. The catholic church has always belonged to the kingdom of darkness and will play a big role in end times. Please, it is rooted in occultism, systems of magic, idolatry, and many other things.
@@nowheat7987 Is it not more important to be a son of God than some particular denomination? Is that not what Jesus called people to be, sons and daughters of God? Perhaps one can have a "universal" scope about spiritual matters and still be a son of God. Catholic means "universal" from what I comprehend. And yes, someone can "protest" against wrong being done within church and still be a son of God, which Martin Luther seemed to have done. The Bible says in Romans 8:14 that for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God. Is one allowing God's Spirit to lead them, or just other people? Let it be God's Spirit there, rather than just following men, which is so easy for many believers to do. This is what I have had to do after leaving a particular church/religion; allow God to show or tell me where to go, and let God inform me what my purpose for life is.
This honestly left me in tears because it brought back the memories of how God saved me from suicide, depression and the mental breakdowns. This was well explained. God granted you the wisdom to explain this because he knows that there are people like us out there that need to hear this. Thank you God and thank you, sir. I really enjoyed this.
@@Nick-qf7vt I pray that God may help you in this hard time that you are going through. I just want to remind you that it will get better, just be patient. God bless
All this time, I was living, thinking and worshipping like Job. All this time, I was wrong. My brother, through this wonderful video of yours, God has taught me a good lesson tonight. May God bless you, my brother. God is the Greatest. Praise the Lord.
Amen! Me toooooo!!! I was raised in self righteousness and pull yourself up by your bootstraps mentality which has only birth my pride!!! This look at Job just exposed my relationship with God! Thank you!
@@revelation1189 agreed. I have too much pride. I'm willingly free to admit such a crime! And it really is as long as none condemns me because I'm so shy but also willing to repenting of my sin!
I never watch religious videos, and today something happened that didn’t allow me to click away. Instead, I listened to the entire video. It is the most amazing study I have ever heard. so beautiful and touching.
I used to be an atheist and became a believer at a particularly low point of my life. But the truth is I was becoming a moralist and not a true believer. Thank you for this. I hope I will turn from it but truthfully, self-righteousness is extremely hard, if not impossible to beat on your own.
No one is righteous in this world. Dont strive to be the most rightful, perfect man on this earth, rather accept everything that it is and still thank God for eveything hes given us. Dontput focus on what we have to do what we should be and what not, rather put all that focus in God who will lead us the way.
@@zeudock3118 Yes, but, that does not mean to "be perfect". We never will be. A main point is to know that there is a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between, WILLFUL SIN vs. ACCIDENTAL sin .
@@udonoquesabo3235 and there's a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between the righteous and UNRIGHTEOUS SINNERS who say "we can never be perfect". Jesus said, "You must be perfect." if you are to enter the Kingdom of God.
As an atheist, I am moved by the wisdom you garner from Job. It's the best book of the Bible, and your insight into the text just adds layers on top of layers that provide meaning to even myself. Good job. Or should I say, good Job.
@@j-bone9472 when I came out of my atheism I spent a lot of time with Orthodox Jews and studying at Chabad before recognizing the Jewishness of Yeshua.
This is the most jaw dropping, eye opening interpretation I have ever heard. I will never look at the book of Job again. What a wonderful teaching. I’ve sent to so many hoping they’ll watch and learn! God is SO good!
Me too friend. I’ll never look at it the same way either. Most teachings focus on the dynamic between God and Satan and not on Jobs relationship with God and what it truly means to seek and walk with Him.
@@maddog47g i did, Job is not about prosperity gospel at all, or works your way into Heaven. Job is about steadfast and GOD almighty. I don't see at any point that the Heavens judge Job as self righteous. In fact GOD even rebukes Job and all His Friends to speak as if they know what GOD have in mind, because they don't know anything.
I was recently healed from a heart condition after listening to this radical perspective on the story of Job. I realized that I was appeasing God by getting up in the middle of the night to pray longer and longer prayer. God hates being appeased and being treated like a common, dumb idol. I just knew that God was showing me that I need to simply love Him for who He is and what He has done for me through His Son, my Savior Jesus. I wasted no time in genuine repentance and I instantly felt His divine healing on my physical heart. The cardiologist was baffled and had to cancel all her plans to do invasive treatment on my heart. Now I am sharing my amazing testimony with Christians because I suspect many are like me and Job, unaware of this sin of moralism. Thanks to this channel. I simply love you Father God , Son and Holy Spirit. Amen.
Then you have not heard many good lessons on job, here is a much better study than this one. check out Andrew Wommack's study on job. ruclips.net/video/oAqJasnNDBw/видео.html
Then you have been deceived. One of this main points is easily refuted, that Job did not have a relationship with GOD. How can he say that when GOD himself calls him his "servant"? All Christians are his "servants" and that is a relationship. Further, after losing all his worldly possessions and all his children, Job says "Shall we accept only good from the Lord and not evil?" That is one of the boldest utterances of faith that was ever spoken on the earth. Job did nothing wrong. This book is about bad things happening to good people and us not understanding.
@@martyrobinson3566 I agree with you and I still have many questions but he made a good point in the video saying Job said that initially but then went on to curse his life and challenge the righteousness of God in the book. So he makes valid points. I've personally been through hardships where I initially praise God like Job and then the more I think about it the more I grieve and get angry and I have to remind myself God is still in control.
@@martyrobinson3566 "Then you have been deceived", why such a strong statement? Even if you disagree with IP's interpretation, it's more reasonable to assume that he unintentionally misinterpreted Scripture (which happens a lot among Christians) then it is to charge him with trying to deceive people. It seems to me that the point is largely lost on you here. When Job says "Shall we accept only good from the Lord and not evil?", IP was not saying there was anything wrong with what Job said or didn't say, but rather the motive behind it. And that is the motive that saying the right things will appease God and get Him to give back what was taken. Also as far as Job being called God's "servant", I don't have a clear answer from the Hebrew as to whether or not that implies a relationship like the Christian one, but even if we take the view that it does I don't think that necessarily conflicts with IP's interpretation since he said in the last part of the video that it's not as if Job was always a moralist, but rather that in walking with the Lord he reached a point where he came to rely on his own merits and see them as the explanation for all the blessings God had given him. Note: I'm not even certain I agree with IP's interpretation. He basically relied on one clause in the ESV and a couple of arguments from silence at the beginning (i.e. the text doesn't say Job walked with God therefore he didn't), but I wouldn't go as far as to say it was deception on his part or that this interpretation is particularly dangerous. It still contributes a good theological message.
Thank you for this presentation. God bless you. I don't think Job was lost in moralism or that he loves death (reject God) or sees God as a giant vending machine (Job 31:24) or he just want to use God to get material things because God in fact approved of Job, God called him perfect, He said "THERE IS NONE LIKE HIM ON THE EARTH" and even made a hedge around him (see Job 1:8-10, 2:3). All through the book God kept saying, "MY SERVANT JOB". Job lamented about his sufferings, said some wrong things in maintaining His innocence before God in his grief (that was seen as self-righteousness) mainly because he could not understand why things that are not palatable happen to righteous/just people. He was confused about many things (Job 10:15), and preferred physical death than the pain he felt. He wanted answers. Jesus teaches believers that we will face tribulations, that we should be of a good cheer because He has overcome (John 16:33, 1 Peter 4:16). Job's friends believed the things that came upon Job was because of his sin, this is however not true (God reprimanded them here Job 42:7-8). Although, Job fainted many times in his period of suffering, we also see many verses where he held on the Lord still- Job worshipped (Job 1:20-21), Job kept his integrity (Job 2:9-10, ), Job saw God as his salvation though He was slayed by Him (Job13:15-16), Job said he knows his redeemer lives and he will see God come through for him (Job 19:25-26), Job realized he was being tried to come out better (Job 23:10), Job clearly declared that God was his hope not gold (Job 31:24), Job forgave and prayed his friends for being judgemental during his time of trial (Job 42:10), Job repented of his self righteousness (Job 42:3-6) and declared that there is more he does not know than he knows. The book of James 5:11 points new testament believers to the PATIENCE OF JOB. Ezekiel 14:14, talks about how God delivered men like Noah, Daniel and JOB in their generation because of their righteousness. Trials and temptations will come to believers to test/prove us of our faith in God, glory to God. God will not bring to us more than we can bear and His strength will be made perfect even in our weakness. In the book of Job, God show us how man's understanding is limited, teaches us to trust him no matter what comes our way (when understand and when we don't); how we should not lean on our righteousness; how we should believe that God is good and in His wisdom, He has a good reason for everything- He doesn't do evil and that He works all things together for those that love Him; how fleeting a man's life is; how He will not forsake his own even when they faint in time of trials; how God shows mercy still to his own when the accuser comes to accuse; how he will prosper those that wait on him (God blessed his latter end- see Job 42:12); how God is able to prosper us within and without (Job 23:10). It teaches us that where the wisdom of the ancient is spent, the wisdom of God abound forever. God takes pleasure in the prosperity of his servant (Psalms 35:27), He desires we prosper within our soul, so we that can handle material/physical prosperity (3 John 2) and it will not be an idol to us. God bless.
I agree with you about almost everything, but I don't think that the major lesson in Job is that bad things can happen to good people, so don't necessarily think that when you suffer it's because you have done anything wrong. The major lesson is that our greatest duty, which nothing true can be built upon without, is to always justify God. Do not doubt Him, nor His ways. He is perfect in all His ways. It goes all the way back to Eden, when satan's very first attack on mankind was to get Eve to doubt God. From this seemingly simply sin, all of humanity fell. It was through subtlety that satan infected Eve with the lie that God cannot be fully trusted. He really doesn't have your best interest in heart, he caused her to believe, and she acted upon it. It is ever so easy for any of us to not fully trust God with our whole hearts. Unbelief filters in and we forget to or simply let off from trusting God. We often may not declare God's righteousness, especially when trouble comes. We can do it without even realizing it. It's the old lies, "God doesn't really love you. He doesn't really care about you. He can't be trusted.", which the demons whisper to us. Job's perspective was upon himself. He was intent on justifying himself. He wasn't aware of it, but he was saying, by his thoughts and actions, that since he was just, he should not be being punished. If this was true, that he was so just that he should not be being punished, then reason would have to say that God was unjustly punishing him. This would make God the unjust one, which of course He is not so. It is a lesson to all of us, we must keep our focus upon God, not on ourselves, or on anything else for that matter. We must first and foremost not overtly, or in a subtle, hidden way, ever doubt God, or accuse God in any way. We must keep our hearts and minds focused upon God, and always extol Him as holy, just and perfect, and with only perfectly loving and good intentions towards us. The devil first mode of attack, since the beginning, is for us to doubt God, which actually accuses Him of lying to us. Always we must make the concerted effort to not fall into the ever present trap of ever doubting God, in any way. We must keep our focus upon Him and worship and declare His righteousness. When we first learn to do this always, for He is worthy, then we will walk in His light, and be subject to His blessings, rather than to correction. Our whole focus, and thereby outcomes, will change for the best. When Job's focus became to be on God, and His absolute righteousness, he repented in dust and ashes. When He saw God, and His absolute holiness and righteousness, it was then that he could understand and see his own sinfulness, and his real need for God to be his Saviour. It was then that he knew that compared to God's perfect, holy righteousness, all of his own righteousness was as filthy rags. When he justified God he was fully restored and greatly blessed, as God's true desire for us is, not based upon greed and pride, but solely upon God's great, great love for us, His grace, and our humble acceptance thereof, in Jesus Holy and Wonderful Name.
@@robertmfundomgushelomgushe6584 Actually Job wishing death or cursing the day he was born, was something that everyone did while lamenting. Like prophet Jeremiah 20.14
Good take on the story. I also don't believe Job was a hypocritical moralist like the pharisees. The pharisees were concious of their sin and their corrupt ways, yet they intentionally persisted on that path. They willingly and conciously chose to do evil in order to maintain their wealth, status and power in this world, forfeiting God's Kingdom in the next one. Job was a virtuous man and even if we consider that he was sinful in some way, it wasn't sin in a concious, intentional, hypocritical and God-defying way like the pharisees.
This interpretation truly opened my eyes to the story of Job, I was actually scared believing that Job was so faithful and righteous and still he went through trials. Thanks for explaining🙏
I am no expert on the Bible by any means... but this was the best explanation of what GOD expects from us, that I have ever heard. It completely makes sense. "Mind your motives." I will watch this again...and again...and again. :-) Thank you!
Hi, I am a Pastor in New Zealand and I love your channel. Love this study on Job too, well done. I watch you often. Thank you for your ministry in an age were the bible is being more and more questioned and we are finding better answers to age old questions.
Thank you Father for using this channel to help me understand what I am going through right now. Just like Job, you are disciplining me because you love me unconditionally. You have exposed my wrong way of trying to please you with longer and longer hours of prayers, hymns and speaking in tongues in the middle of the night, violating my natural need to sleep. So now I have this new heart issue that requires me to take lots of medication, uninterrupted sleep, hydration, exercise and many hospital appointment. No prayer time altogether for the last 7 months and wondering why God has abandoned me. Now I know He never left me nor forsake me. From this super clear analysis of Job's story, I realized that I was appeasing God rather than pleasing Him. God hates to be appeased as He is not a man made idol! God wants His children in Christ to simply love Him for who He is and what He has done for us. Whatever good work we do should be the result of truly knowing His character. He has given us Jesus the promised Messiah to save us from our sins because God already knew fallen mankind is incapable of saving himself. Only the atoning BLOOD OF JESUS. Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. If we stray from this revelation, we lose our way just like Job and myself.
I have just finished to read the book of job and I had no understanding about it, so I decided to search for explanations and the Holy Spirit led me here.. I’m thankful. God bless you
Don't ever take someone else word. Ever. Especially in regards to something so pure. It is NOT made to be interpreted like this... This is just imagination. Or some desperate need to explain why God allowed Satan to tempt Job. Read it for what it is. People need to stop theorising over things they literally know nothing about. It's dangerous.
Here because 1. I just lost my granny, the most important person to me and my biggest spiritual influence. 2. My therapist INSISTS on me studying this book but she refuses to tell me why, so i do the work for myself. May God guide me.
If you were separated from every other human being in the world, and "all you had" was a copy of the Bible, would you BE "alone"? On the other hand, if you were a popular celebrity, known by many thousands or even millions of people, might you still FEEL "lonely"? Your (and my) consolation in life is found in the Holy Spirit's abiding companionship--an objective fact. God wants us to find our secure, personal comfort in His constant and unchanging presence. I hope, and imagine, this was your granny's experience with her faithful Lord; and I also imagine, and hope, she encouraged you into the same, direct relationship with our Father--through His Son, Jesus--that she had. She is at rest in that peace, and may you live in that same peace.
If your therapist is suggesting religious treatment for your psychological trauma, I would start seeing a new therapist. That's very manipulative and a breach of ethics
Wow, I didn’t plan to finish the whole video but I did, this makes me look into my own life as I have drifted away from God and being a casual Christian for a while now. After watching this video I need to repent. Thanks for sharing my first time on this channel. I have subscribed.🙏
Your interpretation of the book Job has by far enlightened me more than any others I’ve encountered. I finally have a MEANINGFUL understanding of this book. I thank the Holy Spirit that I found this and I thank you as well for interpreting in such a meaningful way.
This message is so spiritual and blessed that my heart wishes to share it with all my fellow brothers in the Islam community who is currently on Ramadan today.
Judging by your voice, I'd say I'm at least thrice your age, but your insights and wisdom are timeless. I am humbled, astounded, and very grateful for your teaching. Thank you, young man.
For I know that my Redeemer lives, And He shall stand at last on the earth; And after my skin is destroyed, this I know, That in my flesh I shall see God, Whom I shall see for myself, And my eyes shall behold, and not another. How my heart yearns within me! Job 19:25-27 NKJV Job new God personally, this guy need to review his insight from the book of Job . God himself say Job I righteous...
@@foooooolk I love that verse, which is completely out of place, but I know a Christian who walks this way, more worried about the outward appearance and the act of doing what is right. Looks down on sinners more angers than feeling bad for them. But they know the gospel and give it out. Are they saved , yeah I believe so but are they walking like a moralist yes. Try and convince them of that doesn’t work.
As a born again Christian I must say I have never wanted to read the book of Job. It terrified me thinking that God would allow satan to destroy a loyal follower. I was terrified that if this could happen to Job, A sinner like me would absolutely have no chance in life. After listening to this interpretation I was in awe and was able to understand what happened to Job and why. I am so grateful that you shared this. Thank you for helping me continue to grow in the word of our Lord.
A book terrifies you? Oh come on.... I love the book of Job. You guys in Christianity are taught such delusions about God's word. Ridiculous! You're a grown woman for crying out loud. And job was Loyal. More loyal than both you or I. So if you're concerned for Job, then absolutely be concerned for yourself. You are far more sinful than he was, guaranteed.
My father just passed and my girlfriend can't understand why I'm not mad at God. I thought about the story of Job and needed a way to explain his story in a matter that was easy to understand. This was perfect. We both wiped away tears at the end. Thank you! May God bless you and yours!
My grandma passed away last week and a lot of people are asking me if I’m okay because I haven’t grieved since her passing. But I don’t need to because I have faith that we will one another again.
Holy Moly no man can tell you anything about God. Man loves Sin. Praise God, not man. Man pass on his ideas as commandments of God. God’s thoughts are not man’s thoughts and neither are man’s ways God’s ways. It’s written in scripture.
@D C You are forgetting a few things, yes God does love us but God is also Holy, righteous and just. How can a Holy God let evil go unpunished? We are all sinners and deserve what we get on judgement day. This is where the Love part comes in, He came down himself as Jesus to live a perfect sinless life so that he can be the final sacrifice for our sins. He loves us enough to suffer an extremely painful death and ridicule, imagine that the CREATOR of the universe..someone that created TIME and SPACE lowered himself to our level so that he could suffer for us. Give your life to Jesus and repent of your sins, so that on Judgement day you will be covered in his holy righteousness and be blameless in front of the Lord.
I’ve been a Christian for a long time and this is the first time that the book has been explained from Gods point of view rather than from Jobs view point based on what was happening to him. Very Good, thank you...
For me this is a speech that is perfectly put toghter by someone brilliant speakers, the correct way to understand the book of Job is ro ask the Holy Spirit to teach us wisdom, and knowledge, to know the word of God, look at vv 6'11, the son's of God is the Angles of God, Satan present himself also, v8,the LORD said unto Satan have you considered my SERVENT Job, that there is none like him in the Earth, A PERFECT AND AN UPRIGHT MAN,ONE FRARETH GOD, AND ESCHEWETH EVIL? Keep reading please you will understand by God's grace.
@@stevem7945 "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." The Bible itself rejects your interpretation. If Job is "blameless" but the Bible later says everyone has sinned and deserves death, "blameless" must clearly mean something different. The most clear interpretation is moral righteousness... which seems right in line with IP's interpretation. If Job's actions are blameless but Job is a sinner, the conclusion is: Job's heart is sinful. Thr question then becomes, "How?"
You did this 8 years ago and it’s still blessing people including me. I had a different understanding of Job. Thank you for your knowledge and research to bring clarity to this amazing book. I am a new fan of your page and you are wonderful
i have really struggled in trying to understand and. comprehend Job. When I would watch other videos, I felt like I was not getting the real message this held. After watching your video, I have gained such a greater and deeper understanding and have actually felt moved. Thank you so much for making this. It has truly helped me SO MUCH. I can not wait to watch more of your videos in the future.
Thank you! i want to shout out a loud "AMEN"! Before finding this video, I had experienced God's "spanking" as a modern-day Job. God spoke to me the exact lessons in this excellent video. I was in the wake of destuction, and God pointed out that it was my moralistic attitude and separation from Him that caused it. I started to see my many sins and fake righteousness and repented on my knees before God seeking his forgiveness. I have even prayed for those who have trespassed against me. Whatever my fate, I know it will be a good one because I now dwell in the house of our Lord. Thank you again for the accuracy of your analysis.
You are the second guy I find who actually understands the book of Job. And you did a fantastic job on explaining it.. thank you very much for this teaching. God bless you and the He continues to give you more knowledge brother..thank you.
@@mattywalters188 you're welcome mate.. watch his videos if you wanna learn more about the scriptures in depth. He has marvelous explanations on many topics..
I've never been satisfied with explanations I've heard. I knew they were lacking something important. The moralist theme strikes a chord that seems correct, and fills in the blanks. Thanks.
Job 42: 7-8: After the Lord finished talking to Job, he spoke to Eliphaz from Teman. He said, “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you did not tell the truth about me, as my servant Job did.
I've recently read Job and my initial thought was that when God addressed Job's friends He was referring to all that Job had said from Job 3:1 to Job 31: 40. But then I realised God was responding to how Job responded to Him after God had answered Job in Job 38 to 41. Job's response to God's address in Job 38 to 41 was horror at tge way he had come to understand God, followed by repentence (Job 42: 1-6). Job realised in Job 42: 1- 6 that he hadn't looked or seen God in the right way despite him being declared blameless and upright. And it is this reponse of Job's in Job 42: 1-6 that God favours and found pleasing (Job 42: 7-8). This was the righteous response that God said made Job His servant. From the beginning to the end of Job, Job was God's servant and God saw him as such. But while Job heard of or about God and worshiped Him in response (Job 42:5), it does not mean that he "saw God with his eyes" (i.e. that he perceived or understood God in the right way even as he had faith in Him - Job 42:5). Note that God not rebuke Elihu because his discourse was centered on God and a heart/mind that was in pursuit of God's heart/mind. It would appear that only Elihu and then Job responded to God in a way that pleased Him which Job's three older friends failed to do. That's what I have learnt from Job's story for now. I have no doubt that God will help me to see and discover deeper insights of Him in Job's story than this one as I continue to walk with Him in faith.
Actually, one small detail. You uncharitably bash the crap out of Job for no reason. Job learns a big lesson in this trial, but he didn't go from a moralist to a gospel believer. He went from the greatest most humble gospel believer to the even greater and more humble gospel believer. God taught him that He can do whatever He wants to whoever He wants to do it to and nobody can stop Him. Job learned to humble himself even more. The lesson that Job learns isn't some radical conversion but a radical step of greater sanctification.
I liked hearing this version, Ive heard the traditional version also. Hearing different perceptive gives me a more clear understanding of how I process the Bible internally. :)
Here's my take on Job after years of struggling over this issue: Job (his life, ministry and greater purpose) was all a part of God's on going revelation and working, God's redemptive work with human kind. Job as well as few other charactors in the OT opens up this key issue that all experience. The Question of "human suffering". This was a key issue that most eastern thinkers and philosophers dwelt on. From Job's friends to King Solomon to some disciples of Jesus and even Gautama Buddha and several other eastern philosophers researched and constructed their philosophies around their experience... But instead of comprehensively answering the question the book of Job brings up the question and leaves it open, as for the rest of the bible (God's revelation) to bring about the fuller understanding. I heard a preacher that I admire once say, "Job is the question, Jesus is the answer!". How very true! If we dwell in the OT books alone we cannot find a complete answer, often we find what the OT people experienced was a foretaste of God's coming true solution (His promise), just like a stair case leading up that keeps getting cleared each season and along the generations leading to revealing of Christ. There are many things that Jobs story tells us that God is showing to us, that He had to send His son, There was no second option.
@Tom FosterFreind, if Job was saved by his actions or relationship with God alone, then are you saying, God didn't need to send his son. Jesus had to die for Job's sins and my sins. I'm saved because of Jesus. Not because of my performance.
If you led my congregation when I was a kid, I don't think I'd have written off religious scripture as amateur philosophy & storytelling. OP, thank you!!!
crazy how it took me so very long a good 3 years or more to hear this and I needed it now more then ever. God knows and nudges you and its up to you to listen or not. Glad I listened :)
I never thought of this story in a negative way. He proved to everyone that if you trust and love Him even if you lose all your earthly belongings, you will be saved. He will give you back everything and then some! He is truly great, I love this story. Bye satan, you have nothing on God! 💕🙏🏻
_Ursieminor_ he wasn’t given back his children. He just had more children replacing the ones that were killed. This explanation of the book of Job helped me understand why Job was allowed to suffer, to restore his relationship to God.
Why not? The story is pessimistic even if you account for Job getting a measure of his life back. If taken literally God places tribulations into the lives of his believers nearly destroying them then gets glory from the ones that don't abandon their faith. What's appealing to many about the book is it unflinchingly shows how nasty life can get and why many abandon the faith. It also shows a benefit in resiliance for those who remain faithful. That said, it's an intense book of misery and not really about the uplift provided to Job in the end it's about the WHY he had to endure the suffering. The book claims God allowed it to prove a spiritual point for His own glory. The truth is on the ground level that's just life and we look to God to remain resolute throughout it as believers.
I just saw The Shift, an excellent faith based movie loosely based on Job. My husband & i both discussed that we were always puzzled by the Book of Job and not sure what it was saying. I can’t wait to show him this video. Excellent analysis, brilliant really! Thank you for making this.
This is a wonderful teaching, very insightful indeed. Sometimes I feel like a pendulum that swings back and forth, I pray that God keeps me centered, it's extremely difficult and I know I could do nothing without Him in my life. Much Love and Blessings Always!
I just suscribed to your channel after your talk on Pints with Aquinas. I am a healing Rad Trad who saw exactly where I was going as a moralist. I had never thought that I was like Job; relying on my good works, but this video has given me insight into my pride. Thank you for what you do! I will be praying for you and your ministry.
Christianity is not a religion,is not about what you can and can't do,is all about a personal relationship with God,truly know and hear Him in your life.Thanks for such a deeper insights.
I ts a faith trusting the Savior to save u good or bad He paid for the sins of the world past present t n future Belive the gospel in 1 Corinthians15:: 1-4
Joanna Tan Being saved is not a religion.. but being a Christian, or disciple of Christ is a hard work, people SHOULD do after they get saved... Sadly many people don’t understand that concept and add works(repenting of sins) to salvation, and/or think one can lose salvation... The Bible is very clear on the religion saved people should be living.. it’s not some anarchy, Woe, God will chastise his children on earth.. Though he will never send them to hell..
It’s weird because I always viewed the book of Job as my favorite book and always turned to it when I was struggling with anything. It’s odd how 2 people can read the same thing and understand it completely differently. I always seen it as a book about perseverance, strength, faith, and as a reminder that my problems are insignificant in comparison.
It can hold both meanings/teachings of persevering & trusting God through hard times, as well as the explanation in this video. You can read the same scripture but gain a different insight / understanding depending on what season of life you find yourself in
I watched this video a couple of years ago but I was too immature to truly understand it. This video is so rich and divinely inspired. God bless you IP 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I know this is 6 years old. I substantially agree in the main. But for me another vital lesson here is submission even in times when we are given the privilege of the fellowship of His suffering. It is true, we need to focus on relationship with Christ. It is also true that the Lord gives and takes away and may use us as He wishes. Suppose God needs me to endure suffering in faith and in a visible way to reach the lost? My wife of 31 years has Alzheimer's at an extremely young age, she is 57 now but we think this started 7 years ago. When it was clear what she had and she was still more or less conherent and cognizant, she told me the following as I wept with her over the diagnosis: She said she had a good life, saw and did many things, raised two sons, fulfilled God's will, and loved Him and then me, in that order, and was thankful for it. She also told me that this was God's life, as in her life belongs to God. She said, "Bill, be strong, use this as a testimony, I know it will be hard on you, and I will forget, but if God had asked me to take this path if it would be a witness to help lead others to Him, I would choose this path, and so would you, because we love and serve God. We have 30 years together and we did exploits for God together, now you must go on without me, but God is with you, so be strong, and be a witness, share my story that others may see in your faith how real God is." A huge breakthrough idea I now carry: sometimes God does not show His power by giving us victory in the present, in the flesh, in this temporal reality, but by allowing us to pass through suffering, loss, and seeming humiliation and failure in the world's eyes, and giving us the innermost strength in our inner being to himd fast our faith and witness and keep praising and serving God without blaming Him and without condition or expectations. God hasn't healed Dora, my wife, she is on memory care, and I am suffering in ways I cannot have imagined I could have held up under. But praise be to God, I retain my joy and my faith, my love for God remains intact, my desire to serve and my witness continue as in the days of my earliest moments of faith. In, say, 1987, the last time I had to "return to God" from a period of rebellion (around 1985-1987), when I was on fire and excited about returning to God and renewing my covenant with Him, I don't know if I could have endured this. But in an early Bible study I ran, I said that truly faith is such we would not renounce Christ even if our own spouse or child were being held ar gunpoint and we were told they would die if we refused to renounce Jesus. It was ao controversial, some stopped coming and voiced great offense. I stand by that. An older, more cynical, and I now think more comprised Christian told me I was being extreme and shouldn't say things like that. He told me I would "mature" and not be so "hard edged" and "radical." But today, I can say, and wish I could tell him, I have lived that truth, I have had many losses, failures, and humiliations, I have endured virtual homelessness with a wife and two young kids, lost everything twice, and even now have many problems and sufferings I must endure. But my relationship with Jesus is still radical and focused and extreme, in the best way, not because I am so strong, I am weak and know it, but, rather, because I throw myself before the throne as a son and heir through Christ and God's Spirit fills me and literally keeps me ticking. Sometimes it feels like a marathon through hell itself and I'm happy just to make it another hour and amazed when that hour becomes days and months and years. Suffering is not fun. But it is a privilege and honor to be given an opportunity to even slightly, as have I, experience the fellowship of His suffering, especially when the suffering is not because I have done anything deserving thereof.
This video blessed me. It taught me a lot. I had recently been reading the book ofJob and although I always believed that I knew what the book was about, I found myself being intrigued and not so sure anymore about the full message. You just cleared things up. Hallelujah!
This is exactly what brought me here too. I just watched the episode IP did with Matt Fradd and I came here to find if he did a video on Job just so I can feel like I’m getting a better understanding of what I’m read while following along with Ft Mike.
i love this! when i have misfortunes this week after asking god to help me so i talk to god asking him why and complaining then apologising for complaining and saying how confused i am and then feeling bad for feeling confused and not trusting him i felt so bad for not having gtatitude and faith and not staying calm and steadfast but yet through it all i was being honest with god having a relationship with him , i actually felt bad for that , but this video has made me feel betterr i am a very new christian so i feel a lot better from watching this video thankyou for explaining this gospel to me . i read it today and found it very heavy going all jobs speachifying and that of his friends i dont feel i will be saved by grace .or have been ...maybe that my problem ...I don't feel that i deserve gods help i am very aware that i am so imperfect and a sinner , jesus said to me hed have mercy on my soul upon my death ... I try to walk with him everyday and i am so so grateful for that love even though I sin everyday ..:( ii need to live this life and it is mostly a struggle .I feel this way and then something beautiful abput life will reveal itself to my eyes every day some birds flying , a flower , some sunshine ...life is still beautiful .I still have eyes to see it . 🙏
Im 5 minutes in. I love how your lesson is put together. How you underline scripture as it is read. Im subscribed and hope to understand more of Gods Word instead of how messed up the world is. Thank you
Bless You! I finally get the anwer that I'm looking for. I wondered why the father of the prodigal son bless him and not his righteous brother. It is because he returned to his father, let go his pride and realized his father's worth and love. Same lesson about the story of Job. To love God and to not appease Him.Thanks!!! Another lesson learned!!!😊
You have put the words from my mental understanding, in an audio way that I struggle with. I have it all in my head, but when I try to speak it out loud I stumble. Thank you and stay blessed
All this time I misunderstood the Book of Job...? I remember some scholars in my former High School taught Job in different light like in the lines of: "Job is faithful although bad things happened to him because he had enough faith for God, so he was blessed in the end!" And it is crazy how my educational book in High School told the Parable of Prodigal Son, but it only focuses on the Hedonist Son, not the Moralist Son... This is such a educational video, IP! I love this!
This reminded me of how confusing Job was when I read it a long time ago. I remember I thought in the back of my mind that Job wasn't entirely righteous like is said in a stereotypical summary of the book, and ignored it out of it being too confusing. This really helped me to realize why. Praise the Lord our God as He has spoken, and thank you brother. I think God has spoken through you, I don't know for sure though.
I have always struggled with the Book of Job because I always had more questions than answers, but this was explained beautifully! Praise Jesus for people who are likeminded and hungry for His truth!
Wow. I knew a little about the story of Job but never really wanted to dive in completely. All I can say is that I am blown away. Thank you for posting this video. I greatly appreciate the time you took to put this together for us. God Bless.
Do good deeds because they are the right thing to do, not because you want something in return...good deeds make us feel great, and that itself is a reward ❤
Thank you as I read the Bible for most of my 54 years on this earth but I never fully understood it. This teaching answered my direct prayer for understanding my suffering and sin. I can say God revealed to me my failings and gave me so much insight into my motives and lack of a true relationship (not religion) with him and how I need to repent and trust Him in the battle I’m facing. I am humbled as I started being cynical and questioned why God allowed the trials in my life. My present trial is very hard but I need to trust God and talk to him from my heart not just follow religion doctrine. I am thankful for this teaching as I was ready to end my life as I did not think I could take a minute more of my suffering. I also thank God for the insight given of book of Job. It’s funny but I read Job many times but never fully understood its true meaning. Thank you. You inadvertently saved my life. Now I will distribute this video to as many as God leads me to.
@@daleeloph5038 Perhaps because of that virtue maybe it led to pride? And God wanted him to see that. Towards the end of the book, Job realized he is truly under the mercy of God, as we all are till our last day. I guess why Paul taught fight the good fight till the end. Pray we will be counted worthy. Jesus taught, "Strive to enter the narrow gate". If we get comfortable with our moralism it could possibly cause us to fall into self righteousness not counting on the Righteousness of Christ to save us. Isaiah said, all our righteousness is like filthy rags. (Isaiah 64:6). We were all sinners and saved by the mercy and grace of God through the atoning blood of Christ who took our punishment and gave us all instead a "get out of jail free" card. Now we wear the righteous of Christ not our own. There is not enough good we can do in the flesh which will or can atone for our sins/sinful nature. It has already been done. Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished". I guess we need to live a life acknowledging Christ work on the cross and the liberty we have in Him bearing the fruits of the Spirit. And never get comfortable in our flesh that we have anything good in us with the exception of His Spirit who dwells in all those who have personally received Jesus as their Savior. Peace and many blessings from God above to you my friend.
LME , lotsa guessing. Matthew 21:41 (KJV) They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out [his] vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Freely given, yes, but not “free”, pay your rent. Revelation 14:12 (KJV) Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Mic Saul I am glad you have a good understanding of God. I am still searching and learning. This is indeed a narrow road and it has been a difficult one for me. But I can truly say every hardship I have suffered for Christ sake was worth it because I love my Lord Jesus. I am so grateful that God has given me a beautiful and loving family. But there is none like Him. I look forward to that glorious day when I will see Him face to face. I have never felt like I am paying rent. Freely He gave to me my redemption when I called onto Him. Freely do I love unconditionally my Father in heaven. There is no guessing here for me. This I am very sure. Peace to you my friend. May our Lord Jesus continue to bless you richly.
There are many revelations throughout Job's story. For one, Satan exposed the fact that the believer has a hedge of protection around them. With that being said not only is the hedge of protection around them but that of there children, house and car. (possessions that the Lord blessed him with..)
Everyone calm down. The bible is open to interpretation and he is welcome to his. I enjoyed hearing his interpretation. Harrassing him wont get us anywhere. I hate not understanding how god could do this to his most loyal subject only to win a bet. I dont want to see god in that way so I open my ears to many people who claim they have answers, and I learn new things everytime I listen to them. Ive come to the understanding that I will never understand gods works fully and thats why we call it having faith. Faith that something is good even when all evidence is to the contrary (God has countless good works, just using the phrase to get my point across). Im going to continue searching for understanding with an open mind, open ears, and most importantly an open heart. *Update* Thanks to discussions in the comments I believe the book of job is a long pariable and heres why: 1) God wouldnt ruin someones life to win a bet. Thats very out of character. 2) The author of this book couldnt have known about the bet that was made. Even if it was Job or someone close to him, they wouldnt have known. 3) The way this book corresponds with how everyone feels sometimes is too perfect of a moral. (Ill elaborate if wanted)
I agree, the Bible is open to interpretation, however this is a first. To make Job the opposite of what the Bible states, and using scripture to prove your point, proves my point. "Its a great book to pick and choose what it is, when you want, how you want, and for whatever you want!"
I agree but I think the beginning is shocking but it is God saying it doesn't matter what you do, you cannot win. The more you do to Job the closer he will look to me at not you for help.
I wanted to say thank you for clarifying this...I was struggling with this book this morning not understanding it AT ALL...I am new to Christianity and just started reading the bible..Job had me stomped & a lil scared I didn't understand it...again thank you for putting into perspective for me. 🙏
What the hell is wrong with you? You WORSHIP a God who literally MURDERS ENTIRE FAMILIES just to teach a lesson? How morally bankrupt can you possibly get?
You are very childish and shallow in putting all the blame in God for the wrong you see. This is done by people looking for an easy way to say to themselves religion in useless. Go study more and you will maybe one day understand the consequences of free will that God granted men.
@@bobyk87 A god who murders innocent families for an ego trip is WICKEDLY and DESPERATELY EVIL. This really isn't difficult, but religion hijacks people's morality and completely incapacitates their ability to make rational, moral judgments. I feel sorry for people whose minds are so twisted and numb that they can look at stories like Job and the one in Numbers 31 and come away worshipping and praising. These psychotic scribblings of bronze age nomadic sheep herders is filthy sewage and has NO PLACE in modern society.
@@jasonsocrathien6815 I do not have any knowledge of God killing innocent families. Think youre misunderstanding something someone told you. But fine I dont wanna change your mind and you sure wont change mine.
@@bobyk87 God allowed Satan to kill Job's entire family. God murdered every single human on the face of the earth with the flood. Throughout the course of all God's genocide and murders throughout the Old Testament, about 2.4 MILLION bodies can be counted, just by reading scripture. Joshua was freaking genocidal, pillaging, rapist warlord, and so was David, and basically every other leader of ISI-cough- I mean the Israelites. - have you never read your freaking bible? If God's "holy" warrior heroes had access to the weapons Hitler and Stalin had access to, they SURELY would have killed more than all of them combined. These evil men praised by your scriptures murdered thousands upon thousands of people who worshiped the wrong god. IT IS NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER OKAY TO MURDER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF RELIGION!!!!!!!! Religion is a VICIOUS poison, a PLAGUE to the progress of mankind. Have you not read your history books? Religion is the epitome of EVIL. FUCK GOD.
It is said of Job that he was a servant of God, blameless, upright, one who reverenced or feared God and turned away from evil. Throughout Scripture this is the description God gives of the truly righteous (Gen. 6:9, Ps. 32:11, 112:4, Prov. 2:21, 3:32, 11:5, 20, 13:6, 14:2, 11, 16:17, Luke 1:6, etc. Scripture never uses such words to describe a legalist or a “moralist.” The Pharisees were “moralists” which Christ described as those who clean the outside of the cup and dish; but their inside was full of greed and wickedness (Luke 11:39). They were hypocrites (Matt. 23:13) and God would never use terms like upright and blameless to describe their character as He did Job. God Himself said in Ezekiel 14:13,14, “If a country sins against Me by being unfaithful, and I stretch out My hand against it…even though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job were in its midst, by their own righteousness they could only save themselves.” In other words, God picked three righteous men of exemplary character that would be well known to the people. To accuse Job of being a moralist or of being legalistic contradicts God own words in describing Job.
Saved & sober since 5/16. Most of us figure God, if He existed, doesn't care. It was a HUGE shock when He saved me. He actually CARES. Still blows my mind.
i remember reading about how pride is the deadliest sin and thinking how that could be true. it makes total sense now. thank you for the awesome video brother.
This is just Amazing!! I have never heard such an interpretation of the book of Job!!.. I’ve been studying the book for a while and it was not adding up until I came across this teaching!! Am guilty as charged… it has changed my perspective completely.. God truly loves us.. Thank you so much for this!!
I disagree w/ video, is if it's all about "Works." Because Noah did not actually WALK with God, he heard God. Abraham & Moses either saw the Finger of God, or a burning bush. Adam and Job did WALK WITH GOD, as those who the Bible says; Face to Face, as a man speaketh to another. This Video wrongly reinterprets the whole point, bc of the mundane WORKS vs. GRACE controversy. The Book of Job's lessons vary, but central, is that this man Walked with God, besides his supplications. Job, like Adam & others knew God face to face, as Any Apostle after the resurrection & prior ascension! The Grace issue here is a sorry ignorant depiction of post resurrection Apostles who felt the Lord's crucified hands, Mary's witness, and Job's or Adam's experience w/ God.
This is perhaps one of the greatest messages I have ever received. Thank God for this teaching! My misinterpretation of Job really messed with my perception of God’s nature. Thank you for setting me free. I love the obvious comparison set up in the Prodigal Son(s) story, that I also missed until you pointed it out. There is so much more to the story than I realized. God is good, and you are a blessing, friend.
Praising God for the revelation He has given you! Going deep in my study of the book of Job, I “stumbled” across your channel, and was so blessed by hearing it... especially with the analogy and connection to the parable of the Prodigal “Sons”!
I really enjoyed this Book of Job Lesson. It truly coincides with My spiritual journey...2 Peter 1:3-10. Thank you for this well thought out presention! I Love You Forever!
You forget what the Almighty said to the friends of Job and that He actually admitted Job was righteous. From KJV: 7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. 8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job. 9 So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the Lord commanded them: the Lord also accepted Job. 10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.
Not only is this a great point but it shows that Job is a foreshadowing of Messiah who would suffer for others and offer a sacrifice on their behalf. I do agree that Job has a lack in his relationship with God, but it’s not a moralism or a lack of faith. Think also of 19:25 “I know my redeemer lives, and at the last he will stand upon the earth....And yet in my flesh I shall see God.”
Facts💯💯💯💯. I dont agree with this teaching. Job 1;8. God the Father said to satan. Have you considered my SERVANT Job. There is no one on earth like him. He is a BLAMLESS and upright who fears God and hate evil. Why would the Father call Job His servant and talk highly of Him if Job was a man who only love God because of His provisions. He have good points but I believe he is off on the character of Job. Blessings!
Thank you so much for this, I never saw this Book as clear as the way you have described it in this video. May God Bless you for posting this breakdown of the Book of Job. It had truly been a blessing to me and helping me to understand and to grow closer to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I seldom get goosebumps, but this 😢 Divinely inspired explanation left me on tears of joy. Praise be to God for bestowing such wisdom on His servant. May God bless your ministry and your loved ones good sir. Love from South Africa. ❤
One of the BEST explanations of Job I've ever heard. I can so relate to falling into performance and good works to "stay in God's favor", etc. Thank you for this!!
This study has revolutionized my way of thinking which was so out of line. Thank you. God bless you. I am sorry I am not in a posit ion to support your ministry.Thank you thank you..God bless you. I know that listening to this was no accident. I know that God loved me so much that he arranged for me to be put on the right track. I was so like the older son from the parable of the Prodigal son.
same here brother. I don't think this is an accident of seeing this video. All my life, I was thinking that if bad things happened to me, that means God is punishing me based on the wrong doings I did and if I try to be clean God will bless me but this video clearly explained it that God is not that kind.
This is an outrage. Loving god is NEVER more important than being a good person and doing good things. The very idea that loving god is morally good is just ridiculous and despicable.
@@jasonsocrathien6815 You should be an entertainer for cringe because you making believers of Christianity like us uncomfortable. If I were to love my wife than God, then I would be loving the very person I desire and love more than God. Loving God and putting him first is ALWAYS more important than being a good person and doing good things (that's something your parents would want from a normal human). Trust me, I learned the hard way.
@@elijaharroyo4846 Do you honestly think loving God is more important than being a good person (aka "works"), or are you trolling? I honestly can't tell, because that position is EXACTLY what leads to things like genocide, holy war, and terrorism. It is an extremely dangerous and destructive position to hold. Please think about what you're saying carefully.
You lost me at 2:15. The Bible itself describes Job as "blameless", and then you go placing blame directly on his head. I love your work, but I believe you can do better than this.
Important to note that blameless does not mean sinless (Romans 3:23). It only signifies that his sins have been dealt with through sacrifices. I appreciate the exposition on most of what this channel expressed. However, i do believe this video is overly selling the idea that Job had a Phariseeic view of God, which is doing good works to earn material rewards. After reading and studying it, as well as listening to different insights. I am.of the position that Job's suffering was mainly caused as a foreshadowing of Jesus. My authority on that is John 5:39, when Jesus referred to the Old Testament. So basically every major narrative in the OT points to Jesus and His forthcoming earthly life, redemptive sacrifice and future glory.
@@brotherdext No one is sinless,but you don't have to be sinless in order to be a righteous. And no one in the Heberw scriptures is foreshadows Jesus or any one else in the hebrew scriptures or the so calld NT When a person performs the will of God he is considered righteous, even if here and there he has committed sin, a righteous person does not mean "sinless"! Abraham was consider righteous because of his deeds not because of his faith.....by deeds you are showing your faith...by deeds Abraham shows his faith and was consider a rightues! But the fact that people are consider to be rightues doesn't necessarily mean a person deserves retribution, certainly not in the world we live in.
@@user-tj5mi5bb9m sorry, just wanted to correct that abraham wasn't righteous because of his deeds. Scripture says "And he believed in the Lord , and He accounted it to him for righteousness" Genesis 15:6 "Now, is this blessing only for the Jews, or is it also for uncircumcised Gentiles? Well, we have been saying that Abraham was counted as righteous by God because of his faith." Romans 4:9
@@thomasjoat2396 Did you read in your NT the book of James? James 2:21-24 New International Version (NIV) 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[a] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. Or the Gosple according to Luke ch 1 vs 5-6 5 In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. 6 *Both of them were righteous in the sight of God observing all the Lord’s commands and decrees blamelessly*.
I haven’t seen this video in a long looong time, and I’m glad I did! The book of job basically destroyed my understanding of God when I first read it and it gave me a new kind of reverence in Him, but also immense joy that He is not an evil God but a righteous one. But man that visit from Him must have been something 😅. My number one prayer is that He never lets me go on my own sinful path (because I fall short of His glory, like a lot), but I don’t know if that’s a good approach or whether I should find a church community that has your knowledge and zeal for God’s word, which is so refreshing. Until then, please pray for my steadfastness in my walk with our Lord 🙏🏽 Thank you again brother!
3:26 IP on comparing Job and Noah says that because Job 1:1 does not use the phrase "Job walked with God", he did not walk with God. Using that same logic, isn't it necessary to conclude that Noah did not fear God or turn from evil? Why does it go only one way? Everything which follows in the video is from this basic misunderstanding. This basic misunderstanding is further pushed forward by more misunderstandings from unsubstantiated assumptions. At 4:30 he assumes the intentions of Job. Nothing in the passage is any indicator that what Job was doing was not good since this is sandwiched perfectly in between the Biblical author's testimony and God's testimony of Job, that Job was upright. The author clearly meant it to be an expression of Job's uprightness. Why is Job's sacrifice criticized here but praised further along the video (when he makes sacrifice for his friends)? Nothing in the passage suggests different intentions. At 5:58 onwards, he says that it is unusual for someone to bless the Lord in the midst of loss if they were indeed walking with him, but this is not an isolated instance. For example: Though the fig tree does not bud and there are no grapes on the vines, though the olive crop fails and the fields produce no food, though there are no sheep in the pen and no cattle in the stalls, yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will be joyful in God my Savior. At 7:14 he assumes that since Job's words are not addressed to God directly, this shows that he is not walking with God. All I'll say is if that's not stretching, I don't know what is. To apply Matt 7:23 to Job shows how nonsensical this assumption is. Jesus says of the false prophet : "Depart from me you *workers of iniquity*". Compare that with God's testimony of Job. I think IP's message is right. Moralism is not good enough. But to call Job a moralist is slander.
Thank you for this, and you also quoted my favorite verse (Habakkuk 3:17!). And I agree with you that the message is right while the interpretation kind of irks me.
If I can ask, I totally understand what you’re saying but what does Job repent of then in Job 42:2-6? In his conversation with God something important him is convicted about how he was behaving and he decides to repent in ashes. While he’s a good man he realizes something was off. Please please please understand I’m not intending to argue Im just really wrestling with what this guy is saying and I would love to have a more complete understanding of scripture and God
I want to love this view of Job. I want it to satisfy the itch I get when I read Job to find a reason for the suffering! I want to (in my best Jim Carey impersonation) yell out "AND THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREEEE"! However.... I can't escape that this way of thinking creates a vicious circle. If we say moralism is the reason for Job's suffering isn't that in fact... moralism. It seems like the point of it is to NOT be linked to Job's actions. So we aren't looking for reasons for our hardships... or other's hardships (like Job's friends). But to trust God with the why and know that he has a plan. "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9
I couldn't finish listening to your video because of so many assumptions you were making of Job. It is clear you have actually READ the book of Job. God himself testified of Job as being blameless yet here you are looking for ways to blame him for his misfortune because of your lack of spiritual understanding.
I wish I saw your video back in 2014 when I was beginning to be an atheist. I have abandoned the false path of atheism and have returned the Catholicism. And even if you are not Catholic yourself, that does not matter. You are clearly filled with the power of the Holy Spirit and your videos has helped me strengthen my faith. It is through your lectures on the Bible that I have come closer to God. Thank you
Catholicism isn't Christianity
@@turtleneckferret how?
@@kyzendelaguia1063 100% hes gonna say only protestants are christians and catholics are catholic. I still dont underatand how people dont get this but yaknow people are slow sometimes
PLEASE, for the love of God, run FAST away from the catholic church. They are not rooted in truth, they never have been. Honestly, it goes against many important things. The catholic church has always belonged to the kingdom of darkness and will play a big role in end times. Please, it is rooted in occultism, systems of magic, idolatry, and many other things.
@@nowheat7987 Is it not more important to be a son of God than some particular denomination? Is that not what Jesus called people to be, sons and daughters of God? Perhaps one can have a "universal" scope about spiritual matters and still be a son of God. Catholic means "universal" from what I comprehend. And yes, someone can "protest" against wrong being done within church and still be a son of God, which Martin Luther seemed to have done.
The Bible says in Romans 8:14 that for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God. Is one allowing God's Spirit to lead them, or just other people? Let it be God's Spirit there, rather than just following men, which is so easy for many believers to do. This is what I have had to do after leaving a particular church/religion; allow God to show or tell me where to go, and let God inform me what my purpose for life is.
This honestly left me in tears because it brought back the memories of how God saved me from suicide, depression and the mental breakdowns. This was well explained. God granted you the wisdom to explain this because he knows that there are people like us out there that need to hear this. Thank you God and thank you, sir. I really enjoyed this.
Stay strong, sister! God bless. I can totally relate.
God works for the best to those who truly love him
Same here, and as a Bonus, God gave me Wisdom also.
@@Nick-qf7vt I pray that God may help you in this hard time that you are going through.
I just want to remind you that it will get better, just be patient.
God bless
Praise God!
All this time, I was living, thinking and worshipping like Job. All this time, I was wrong. My brother, through this wonderful video of yours, God has taught me a good lesson tonight. May God bless you, my brother. God is the Greatest. Praise the Lord.
May the Lord make his grace shine upon you, and grant you His peace. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Amen! Me toooooo!!! I was raised in self righteousness and pull yourself up by your bootstraps mentality which has only birth my pride!!! This look at Job just exposed my relationship with God! Thank you!
@@revelation1189 agreed. I have too much pride. I'm willingly free to admit such a crime! And it really is as long as none condemns me because I'm so shy but also willing to repenting of my sin!
Me too.
@@ChoseDeath Amen 😇😇😇
I never watch religious videos, and today something happened that didn’t allow me to click away. Instead, I listened to the entire video. It is the most amazing study I have ever heard. so beautiful and touching.
God certainly works in mysterious ways
You are absolutely correct. This understanding of Job opens my eyes to so much. We are really all the same, the hedonist and the moralist.
Same here! I’ve always had a difficult time with the book of Job. It all makes sense now 🙏
I used to be an atheist and became a believer at a particularly low point of my life. But the truth is I was becoming a moralist and not a true believer. Thank you for this. I hope I will turn from it but truthfully, self-righteousness is extremely hard, if not impossible to beat on your own.
No one is righteous in this world. Dont strive to be the most rightful, perfect man on this earth, rather accept everything that it is and still thank God for eveything hes given us. Dontput focus on what we have to do what we should be and what not, rather put all that focus in God who will lead us the way.
@@@dailylifeofanything399 That's contrary to what the Word of God says. Jesus said, "Strive to enter through the narrow gate"
@@zeudock3118 Yes, but, that does not mean to "be perfect". We never will be. A main point is to know that there is a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between, WILLFUL SIN vs. ACCIDENTAL sin .
Perhaps, dont try "to beat on your own" . Ask and allow , Him , His strength, to heal and guide you. 🌹
@@udonoquesabo3235 and there's a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between the righteous and UNRIGHTEOUS SINNERS who say "we can never be perfect". Jesus said, "You must be perfect." if you are to enter the Kingdom of God.
As an atheist, I am moved by the wisdom you garner from Job. It's the best book of the Bible, and your insight into the text just adds layers on top of layers that provide meaning to even myself. Good job. Or should I say, good Job.
Good response, my friend. So are you considering Jesus Christ and starting to walk with him?
@@gregjohnson7687 I feel pulled more in the direction of Judaism.
Lol this got me
@@j-bone9472 when I came out of my atheism I spent a lot of time with Orthodox Jews and studying at Chabad before recognizing the Jewishness of Yeshua.
@@j-bone9472 Check out Nabeel Qureshi :) It's quite intriguing. God bless
This is the most jaw dropping, eye opening interpretation I have ever heard. I will never look at the book of Job again. What a wonderful teaching. I’ve sent to so many hoping they’ll watch and learn! God is SO good!
Me too friend. I’ll never look at it the same way either. Most teachings focus on the dynamic between God and Satan and not on Jobs relationship with God and what it truly means to seek and walk with Him.
“He tried to use God for what he wants instead of loving God for what he has”
That is incredibly deep.
There is no indication that Job do not LOVE GOD whatsoever.
The point of the book of Job, is to show how GOD is Limitless
@@overcomingsins6334 yeah you didn’t watch the video…
@@maddog47g i did, Job is not about prosperity gospel at all, or works your way into Heaven.
Job is about steadfast and GOD almighty. I don't see at any point that the Heavens judge Job as self righteous.
In fact GOD even rebukes Job and all His Friends to speak as if they know what GOD have in mind, because they don't know anything.
@@overcomingsins6334 you didn't you ignored the ending it's not to show how great God is but who God is and who job is
@@karime3295 wym disrespect bro
God is obviously above all and that's including humans
I was recently healed from a heart condition after listening to this radical perspective on the story of Job. I realized that I was appeasing God by getting up in the middle of the night to pray longer and longer prayer. God hates being appeased and being treated like a common, dumb idol. I just knew that God was showing me that I need to simply love Him for who He is and what He has done for me through His Son, my Savior Jesus. I wasted no time in genuine repentance and I instantly felt His divine healing on my physical heart. The cardiologist was baffled and had to cancel all her plans to do invasive treatment on my heart. Now I am sharing my amazing testimony with Christians because I suspect many are like me and Job, unaware of this sin of moralism. Thanks to this channel. I simply love you Father God , Son and Holy Spirit. Amen.
This was an amazing study. The Lord has provided you with amazing insight and wisdom. This is the best study of the book of Job I've ever heard.
Then you have not heard many good lessons on job, here is a much better study than this one. check out Andrew Wommack's study on job. ruclips.net/video/oAqJasnNDBw/видео.html
Then you have been deceived. One of this main points is easily refuted, that Job did not have a relationship with GOD. How can he say that when GOD himself calls him his "servant"? All Christians are his "servants" and that is a relationship. Further, after losing all his worldly possessions and all his children, Job says "Shall we accept only good from the Lord and not evil?" That is one of the boldest utterances of faith that was ever spoken on the earth. Job did nothing wrong. This book is about bad things happening to good people and us not understanding.
Yes this is very eye-opening.
@@martyrobinson3566 I agree with you and I still have many questions but he made a good point in the video saying Job said that initially but then went on to curse his life and challenge the righteousness of God in the book. So he makes valid points. I've personally been through hardships where I initially praise God like Job and then the more I think about it the more I grieve and get angry and I have to remind myself God is still in control.
@@martyrobinson3566 "Then you have been deceived", why such a strong statement? Even if you disagree with IP's interpretation, it's more reasonable to assume that he unintentionally misinterpreted Scripture (which happens a lot among Christians) then it is to charge him with trying to deceive people. It seems to me that the point is largely lost on you here. When Job says "Shall we accept only good from the Lord and not evil?", IP was not saying there was anything wrong with what Job said or didn't say, but rather the motive behind it. And that is the motive that saying the right things will appease God and get Him to give back what was taken. Also as far as Job being called God's "servant", I don't have a clear answer from the Hebrew as to whether or not that implies a relationship like the Christian one, but even if we take the view that it does I don't think that necessarily conflicts with IP's interpretation since he said in the last part of the video that it's not as if Job was always a moralist, but rather that in walking with the Lord he reached a point where he came to rely on his own merits and see them as the explanation for all the blessings God had given him.
Note: I'm not even certain I agree with IP's interpretation. He basically relied on one clause in the ESV and a couple of arguments from silence at the beginning (i.e. the text doesn't say Job walked with God therefore he didn't), but I wouldn't go as far as to say it was deception on his part or that this interpretation is particularly dangerous. It still contributes a good theological message.
Thank you for this presentation. God bless you.
I don't think Job was lost in moralism or that he loves death (reject God) or sees God as a giant vending machine (Job 31:24) or he just want to use God to get material things because God in fact approved of Job, God called him perfect, He said "THERE IS NONE LIKE HIM ON THE EARTH" and even made a hedge around him (see Job 1:8-10, 2:3). All through the book God kept saying, "MY SERVANT JOB". Job lamented about his sufferings, said some wrong things in maintaining His innocence before God in his grief (that was seen as self-righteousness) mainly because he could not understand why things that are not palatable happen to righteous/just people. He was confused about many things (Job 10:15), and preferred physical death than the pain he felt. He wanted answers. Jesus teaches believers that we will face tribulations, that we should be of a good cheer because He has overcome (John 16:33, 1 Peter 4:16). Job's friends believed the things that came upon Job was because of his sin, this is however not true (God reprimanded them here Job 42:7-8). Although, Job fainted many times in his period of suffering, we also see many verses where he held on the Lord still- Job worshipped (Job 1:20-21), Job kept his integrity (Job 2:9-10, ), Job saw God as his salvation though He was slayed by Him (Job13:15-16), Job said he knows his redeemer lives and he will see God come through for him (Job 19:25-26), Job realized he was being tried to come out better (Job 23:10), Job clearly declared that God was his hope not gold (Job 31:24), Job forgave and prayed his friends for being judgemental during his time of trial (Job 42:10), Job repented of his self righteousness (Job 42:3-6) and declared that there is more he does not know than he knows. The book of James 5:11 points new testament believers to the PATIENCE OF JOB. Ezekiel 14:14, talks about how God delivered men like Noah, Daniel and JOB in their generation because of their righteousness.
Trials and temptations will come to believers to test/prove us of our faith in God, glory to God. God will not bring to us more than we can bear and His strength will be made perfect even in our weakness.
In the book of Job, God show us how man's understanding is limited, teaches us to trust him no matter what comes our way (when understand and when we don't); how we should not lean on our righteousness; how we should believe that God is good and in His wisdom, He has a good reason for everything- He doesn't do evil and that He works all things together for those that love Him; how fleeting a man's life is; how He will not forsake his own even when they faint in time of trials; how God shows mercy still to his own when the accuser comes to accuse; how he will prosper those that wait on him (God blessed his latter end- see Job 42:12); how God is able to prosper us within and without (Job 23:10). It teaches us that where the wisdom of the ancient is spent, the wisdom of God abound forever. God takes pleasure in the prosperity of his servant (Psalms 35:27), He desires we prosper within our soul, so we that can handle material/physical prosperity (3 John 2) and it will not be an idol to us. God bless.
This guy made me confused. he is twisting everything God said about God . he sound Just like Job's Friends
I agree with you about almost everything, but I don't think that the major lesson in Job is that bad things can happen to good people, so don't necessarily think that when you suffer it's because you have done anything wrong.
The major lesson is that our greatest duty, which nothing true can be built upon without, is to always justify God. Do not doubt Him, nor His ways. He is perfect in all His ways.
It goes all the way back to Eden, when satan's very first attack on mankind was to get Eve to doubt God. From this seemingly simply sin, all of humanity fell. It was through subtlety that satan infected Eve with the lie that God cannot be fully trusted. He really doesn't have your best interest in heart, he caused her to believe, and she acted upon it.
It is ever so easy for any of us to not fully trust God with our whole hearts. Unbelief filters in and we forget to or simply let off from trusting God. We often may not declare God's righteousness, especially when trouble comes. We can do it without even realizing it. It's the old lies, "God doesn't really love you. He doesn't really care about you. He can't be trusted.", which the demons whisper to us.
Job's perspective was upon himself. He was intent on justifying himself. He wasn't aware of it, but he was saying, by his thoughts and actions, that since he was just, he should not be being punished. If this was true, that he was so just that he should not be being punished, then reason would have to say that God was unjustly punishing him. This would make God the unjust one, which of course He is not so.
It is a lesson to all of us, we must keep our focus upon God, not on ourselves, or on anything else for that matter. We must first and foremost not overtly, or in a subtle, hidden way, ever doubt God, or accuse God in any way. We must keep our hearts and minds focused upon God, and always extol Him as holy, just and perfect, and with only perfectly loving and good intentions towards us.
The devil first mode of attack, since the beginning, is for us to doubt God, which actually accuses Him of lying to us.
Always we must make the concerted effort to not fall into the ever present trap of ever doubting God, in any way. We must keep our focus upon Him and worship and declare His righteousness. When we first learn to do this always, for He is worthy, then we will walk in His light, and be subject to His blessings, rather than to correction. Our whole focus, and thereby outcomes, will change for the best.
When Job's focus became to be on God, and His absolute righteousness, he repented in dust and ashes. When He saw God, and His absolute holiness and righteousness, it was then that he could understand and see his own sinfulness, and his real need for God to be his Saviour. It was then that he knew that compared to God's perfect, holy righteousness, all of his own righteousness was as filthy rags.
When he justified God he was fully restored and greatly blessed, as God's true desire for us is, not based upon greed and pride, but solely upon God's great, great love for us, His grace, and our humble acceptance thereof, in Jesus Holy and Wonderful Name.
@@robertmfundomgushelomgushe6584 Actually Job wishing death or cursing the day he was born, was something that everyone did while lamenting.
Like prophet Jeremiah 20.14
Good take on the story. I also don't believe Job was a hypocritical moralist like the pharisees. The pharisees were concious of their sin and their corrupt ways, yet they intentionally persisted on that path. They willingly and conciously chose to do evil in order to maintain their wealth, status and power in this world, forfeiting God's Kingdom in the next one. Job was a virtuous man and even if we consider that he was sinful in some way, it wasn't sin in a concious, intentional, hypocritical and God-defying way like the pharisees.
Perfect
This interpretation truly opened my eyes to the story of Job, I was actually scared believing that Job was so faithful and righteous and still he went through trials. Thanks for explaining🙏
I am no expert on the Bible by any means... but this was the best explanation of what GOD expects from us, that I have ever heard. It completely makes sense. "Mind your motives." I will watch this again...and again...and again. :-) Thank you!
Hi, I am a Pastor in New Zealand and I love your channel. Love this study on Job too, well done. I watch you often. Thank you for your ministry in an age were the bible is being more and more questioned and we are finding better answers to age old questions.
Thank you for remaining a pastor during these hard times.
Thank you Father for using this channel to help me understand what I am going through right now. Just like Job, you are disciplining me because you love me unconditionally. You have exposed my wrong way of trying to please you with longer and longer hours of prayers, hymns and speaking in tongues in the middle of the night, violating my natural need to sleep. So now I have this new heart issue that requires me to take lots of medication, uninterrupted sleep, hydration, exercise and many hospital appointment. No prayer time altogether for the last 7 months and wondering why God has abandoned me. Now I know He never left me nor forsake me. From this super clear analysis of Job's story, I realized that I was appeasing God rather than pleasing Him. God hates to be appeased as He is not a man made idol! God wants His children in Christ to simply love Him for who He is and what He has done for us. Whatever good work we do should be the result of truly knowing His character. He has given us Jesus the promised Messiah to save us from our sins because God already knew fallen mankind is incapable of saving himself. Only the atoning BLOOD OF JESUS. Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. If we stray from this revelation, we lose our way just like Job and myself.
I have just finished to read the book of job and I had no understanding about it, so I decided to search for explanations and the Holy Spirit led me here.. I’m thankful. God bless you
Totally awesome 👍
Don't ever take someone else word. Ever. Especially in regards to something so pure. It is NOT made to be interpreted like this... This is just imagination. Or some desperate need to explain why God allowed Satan to tempt Job. Read it for what it is. People need to stop theorising over things they literally know nothing about. It's dangerous.
Here because 1. I just lost my granny, the most important person to me and my biggest spiritual influence. 2. My therapist INSISTS on me studying this book but she refuses to tell me why, so i do the work for myself. May God guide me.
If you were separated from every other human being in the world, and "all you had" was a copy of the Bible, would you BE "alone"? On the other hand, if you were a popular celebrity, known by many thousands or even millions of people, might you still FEEL "lonely"?
Your (and my) consolation in life is found in the Holy Spirit's abiding companionship--an objective fact. God wants us to find our secure, personal comfort in His constant and unchanging presence. I hope, and imagine, this was your granny's experience with her faithful Lord; and I also imagine, and hope, she encouraged you into the same, direct relationship with our Father--through His Son, Jesus--that she had. She is at rest in that peace, and may you live in that same peace.
I’m sorry for the loss of your granny last year.
Also listen to John Piper (“Desiring God”) for another perspective on Job. Or anything!
That’s a good therapist, and I’m late but sorry about your loss. The Lord is near to the broken-hearted (Psalm 34:18).
If your therapist is suggesting religious treatment for your psychological trauma, I would start seeing a new therapist. That's very manipulative and a breach of ethics
Wow, I didn’t plan to finish the whole video but I did, this makes me look into my own life as I have drifted away from God and being a casual Christian for a while now. After watching this video I need to repent. Thanks for sharing my first time on this channel. I have subscribed.🙏
The book of job has NEVER been explained better than this . God bless you .
Your interpretation of the book Job has by far enlightened me more than any others I’ve encountered. I finally have a MEANINGFUL understanding of this book. I thank the Holy Spirit that I found this and I thank you as well for interpreting in such a meaningful way.
This message is so spiritual and blessed that my heart wishes to share it with all my fellow brothers in the Islam community who is currently on Ramadan today.
@Tom Foster ?
You made me remember how deep the scriptures are and how we can always learn something new from a passage we’ve read like 10 times: it’s amazing
Judging by your voice, I'd say I'm at least thrice your age, but your insights and wisdom are timeless. I am humbled, astounded, and very grateful for your teaching. Thank you, young man.
For I know that my Redeemer lives, And He shall stand at last on the earth; And after my skin is destroyed, this I know, That in my flesh I shall see God, Whom I shall see for myself, And my eyes shall behold, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!
Job 19:25-27 NKJV
Job new God personally, this guy need to review his insight from the book of Job . God himself say Job I righteous...
@@foooooolk I love that verse, which is completely out of place, but I know a Christian who walks this way, more worried about the outward appearance and the act of doing what is right. Looks down on sinners more angers than feeling bad for them. But they know the gospel and give it out. Are they saved , yeah I believe so but are they walking like a moralist yes. Try and convince them of that doesn’t work.
As a born again Christian I must say I have never wanted to read the book of Job. It terrified me thinking that God would allow satan to destroy a loyal follower. I was terrified that if this could happen to Job, A sinner like me would absolutely have no chance in life. After listening to this interpretation I was in awe and was able to understand what happened to Job and why. I am so grateful that you shared this. Thank you for helping me continue to grow in the word of our Lord.
A book terrifies you? Oh come on.... I love the book of Job. You guys in Christianity are taught such delusions about God's word. Ridiculous! You're a grown woman for crying out loud. And job was Loyal. More loyal than both you or I. So if you're concerned for Job, then absolutely be concerned for yourself. You are far more sinful than he was, guaranteed.
My father just passed and my girlfriend can't understand why I'm not mad at God. I thought about the story of Job and needed a way to explain his story in a matter that was easy to understand. This was perfect. We both wiped away tears at the end. Thank you! May God bless you and yours!
Michael Hall - god bless you micheal!
My grandma passed away last week and a lot of people are asking me if I’m okay because I haven’t grieved since her passing. But I don’t need to because I have faith that we will one another again.
No book can ever describe how deeply God loves us. God's Love can only be exprienced.
How?
Holy Moly no man can tell you anything about God. Man loves Sin. Praise God, not man. Man pass on his ideas as commandments of God. God’s thoughts are not man’s thoughts and neither are man’s ways God’s ways. It’s written in scripture.
Well the bible sort of does show how much he loves us. By becoming a man and laying his life down so that we may be saved. No greater love than that.
@D C You are forgetting a few things, yes God does love us but God is also Holy, righteous and just. How can a Holy God let evil go unpunished? We are all sinners and deserve what we get on judgement day. This is where the Love part comes in, He came down himself as Jesus to live a perfect sinless life so that he can be the final sacrifice for our sins. He loves us enough to suffer an extremely painful death and ridicule, imagine that the CREATOR of the universe..someone that created TIME and SPACE lowered himself to our level so that he could suffer for us. Give your life to Jesus and repent of your sins, so that on Judgement day you will be covered in his holy righteousness and be blameless in front of the Lord.
I’ve been a Christian for a long time and this is the first time that the book has been explained from Gods point of view rather than from Jobs view point based on what was happening to him. Very Good, thank you...
You have been conned by a charlatan. IP's case is plainly wrong as Job is described as blameless.
@@stevem7945 Thankyou! You are exactly right.
For me this is a speech that is perfectly put toghter by someone brilliant speakers, the correct way to understand the book of Job is ro ask the Holy Spirit to teach us wisdom, and knowledge, to know the word of God, look at vv 6'11, the son's of God is the Angles of God, Satan present himself also, v8,the LORD said unto Satan have you considered my SERVENT Job, that there is none like him in the Earth, A PERFECT AND AN UPRIGHT MAN,ONE FRARETH GOD, AND ESCHEWETH EVIL? Keep reading please you will understand by God's grace.
@@stevem7945 "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
The Bible itself rejects your interpretation. If Job is "blameless" but the Bible later says everyone has sinned and deserves death, "blameless" must clearly mean something different. The most clear interpretation is moral righteousness... which seems right in line with IP's interpretation.
If Job's actions are blameless but Job is a sinner, the conclusion is: Job's heart is sinful. Thr question then becomes, "How?"
@@sivad1025 Torture as punishment for possible thought crime? I'm so glad I saw through Christianity before the inanity debauched my soul.
You did this 8 years ago and it’s still blessing people including me. I had a different understanding of Job. Thank you for your knowledge and research to bring clarity to this amazing book. I am a new fan of your page and you are wonderful
i have really struggled in trying to understand and. comprehend Job. When I would watch other videos, I felt like I was not getting the real message this held. After watching your video, I have gained such a greater and deeper understanding and have actually felt moved. Thank you so much for making this. It has truly helped me SO MUCH. I can not wait to watch more of your videos in the future.
Amen. Remember also that Job is in Heaven eternally. It outweighs anything that happened to him on earth
Thank you! i want to shout out a loud "AMEN"! Before finding this video, I had experienced God's "spanking" as a modern-day Job. God spoke to me the exact lessons in this excellent video. I was in the wake of destuction, and God pointed out that it was my moralistic attitude and separation from Him that caused it. I started to see my many sins and fake righteousness and repented on my knees before God seeking his forgiveness. I have even prayed for those who have trespassed against me. Whatever my fate, I know it will be a good one because I now dwell in the house of our Lord. Thank you again for the accuracy of your analysis.
You are the second guy I find who actually understands the book of Job. And you did a fantastic job on explaining it.. thank you very much for this teaching. God bless you and the He continues to give you more knowledge brother..thank you.
Who was the second guy? Would love to know what insight they received on Job's story.
@@mattywalters188 here is the link beother... ruclips.net/video/MqZOYprpiRk/видео.html
He has beautiful teachings as well.
@@g8mefreak Oh, thank you so much! I wasn't expecting a reply or even expecting one so quickly! PS I agree with your initial post.
@@mattywalters188 you're welcome mate.. watch his videos if you wanna learn more about the scriptures in depth. He has marvelous explanations on many topics..
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This is the 2nd time I have watched this video on Job, and I was blessed and convicted yet again. A great reminder and encouragement.
Can you please do a video researching whether Jesus and his Dad were actually carpenters?
@@writerspritewhat?
Best sermon I have ever heard. Theologically, pragmatically, and in wisdom. Well done, be blessed.
I've never been satisfied with explanations I've heard. I knew they were lacking something important. The moralist theme strikes a chord that seems correct, and fills in the blanks. Thanks.
Job 42: 7-8: After the Lord finished talking to Job, he spoke to Eliphaz from Teman. He said, “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you did not tell the truth about me, as my servant Job did.
I've recently read Job and my initial thought was that when God addressed Job's friends He was referring to all that Job had said from Job 3:1 to Job 31: 40. But then I realised God was responding to how Job responded to Him after God had answered Job in Job 38 to 41. Job's response to God's address in Job 38 to 41 was horror at tge way he had come to understand God, followed by repentence (Job 42: 1-6). Job realised in Job 42: 1- 6 that he hadn't looked or seen God in the right way despite him being declared blameless and upright. And it is this reponse of Job's in Job 42: 1-6 that God favours and found pleasing (Job 42: 7-8). This was the righteous response that God said made Job His servant. From the beginning to the end of Job, Job was God's servant and God saw him as such. But while Job heard of or about God and worshiped Him in response (Job 42:5), it does not mean that he "saw God with his eyes" (i.e. that he perceived or understood God in the right way even as he had faith in Him - Job 42:5). Note that God not rebuke Elihu because his discourse was centered on God and a heart/mind that was in pursuit of God's heart/mind. It would appear that only Elihu and then Job responded to God in a way that pleased Him which Job's three older friends failed to do.
That's what I have learnt from Job's story for now. I have no doubt that God will help me to see and discover deeper insights of Him in Job's story than this one as I continue to walk with Him in faith.
How do we know that god did really say it were you there?!
The bible os true pray brother for the truth @messianic_scam
Actually, one small detail. You uncharitably bash the crap out of Job for no reason. Job learns a big lesson in this trial, but he didn't go from a moralist to a gospel believer. He went from the greatest most humble gospel believer to the even greater and more humble gospel believer. God taught him that He can do whatever He wants to whoever He wants to do it to and nobody can stop Him. Job learned to humble himself even more. The lesson that Job learns isn't some radical conversion but a radical step of greater sanctification.
I liked hearing this version, Ive heard the traditional version also. Hearing different perceptive gives me a more clear understanding of how I process the Bible internally. :)
the bible is written to last. the fact we can get multiple lessions from the same stories based on our perspective is intentional :)
Job knew who God is from the beginning. That's the reason he made up his mind to trust Him (God) even during adversity.
@Charliemarcel562
I know God personally
Job indeed knew who God was and still is. He never changes, His promises are yes and amen
The bible god is a monster...
@@kingofdetroit358 how so?
@@kingofdetroit358 the bible God is the creator of all things including you. The bible God is the only true God.
Here's my take on Job after years of struggling over this issue: Job (his life, ministry and greater purpose) was all a part of God's on going revelation and working, God's redemptive work with human kind. Job as well as few other charactors in the OT opens up this key issue that all experience. The Question of "human suffering". This was a key issue that most eastern thinkers and philosophers dwelt on. From Job's friends to King Solomon to some disciples of Jesus and even Gautama Buddha and several other eastern philosophers researched and constructed their philosophies around their experience... But instead of comprehensively answering the question the book of Job brings up the question and leaves it open, as for the rest of the bible (God's revelation) to bring about the fuller understanding. I heard a preacher that I admire once say, "Job is the question, Jesus is the answer!". How very true! If we dwell in the OT books alone we cannot find a complete answer, often we find what the OT people experienced was a foretaste of God's coming true solution (His promise), just like a stair case leading up that keeps getting cleared each season and along the generations leading to revealing of Christ. There are many things that Jobs story tells us that God is showing to us, that He had to send His son, There was no second option.
@Tom FosterFreind, if Job was saved by his actions or relationship with God alone, then are you saying, God didn't need to send his son. Jesus had to die for Job's sins and my sins. I'm saved because of Jesus. Not because of my performance.
If you led my congregation when I was a kid, I don't think I'd have written off religious scripture as amateur philosophy & storytelling. OP, thank you!!!
crazy how it took me so very long a good 3 years or more to hear this and I needed it now more then ever. God knows and nudges you and its up to you to listen or not. Glad I listened :)
When the student is ready the teacher will appear
I’m pretty new to this channel but I can say honestly this guy has an amazing gift and is a genius. Blessed is he that takes shelter in the Lord!!!!
I never thought of this story in a negative way. He proved to everyone that if you trust and love Him even if you lose all your earthly belongings, you will be saved. He will give you back everything and then some! He is truly great, I love this story. Bye satan, you have nothing on God! 💕🙏🏻
u r 1 of the few
So have him do it again don’t worry I won’t wait
_Ursieminor_ he wasn’t given back his children. He just had more children replacing the ones that were killed. This explanation of the book of Job helped me understand why Job was allowed to suffer, to restore his relationship to God.
Same here. This story always gave me hope and strengthened my faith.
Why not? The story is pessimistic even if you account for Job getting a measure of his life back. If taken literally God places tribulations into the lives of his believers nearly destroying them then gets glory from the ones that don't abandon their faith.
What's appealing to many about the book is it unflinchingly shows how nasty life can get and why many abandon the faith. It also shows a benefit in resiliance for those who remain faithful.
That said, it's an intense book of misery and not really about the uplift provided to Job in the end it's about the WHY he had to endure the suffering. The book claims God allowed it to prove a spiritual point for His own glory. The truth is on the ground level that's just life and we look to God to remain resolute throughout it as believers.
I just saw The Shift, an excellent faith based movie loosely based on Job. My husband & i both discussed that we were always puzzled by the Book of Job and not sure what it was saying. I can’t wait to show him this video. Excellent analysis, brilliant really! Thank you for making this.
This is a wonderful teaching, very insightful indeed. Sometimes I feel like a pendulum that swings back and forth, I pray that God keeps me centered, it's extremely difficult and I know I could do nothing without Him in my life. Much Love and Blessings Always!
I’ve not considered this perspective before. Thank you for sharing this. I will use this to better my relationship with God and help others.
Don't judge job until you've walked in his shoes.
We are not brother the story of job was given to us to learn from
😅 what?
I just suscribed to your channel after your talk on Pints with Aquinas. I am a healing Rad Trad who saw exactly where I was going as a moralist. I had never thought that I was like Job; relying on my good works, but this video has given me insight into my pride. Thank you for what you do! I will be praying for you and your ministry.
Christianity is not a religion,is not about what you can and can't do,is all about a personal relationship with God,truly know and hear Him in your life.Thanks for such a deeper insights.
I ts a faith trusting the Savior to save u good or bad He paid for the sins of the world past present t n future Belive the gospel in 1 Corinthians15:: 1-4
Please pray for me I need your intercession thank you
Joanna Tan Being saved is not a religion.. but being a Christian, or disciple of Christ is a hard work, people SHOULD do after they get saved...
Sadly many people don’t understand that concept and add works(repenting of sins) to salvation, and/or think one can lose salvation...
The Bible is very clear on the religion saved people should be living.. it’s not some anarchy, Woe, God will chastise his children on earth.. Though he will never send them to hell..
Especially when God makes a deal with the devil and ruins your life
Marioisawesome82 God never made a deal with the devil, idiot...
It’s weird because I always viewed the book of Job as my favorite book and always turned to it when I was struggling with anything. It’s odd how 2 people can read the same thing and understand it completely differently. I always seen it as a book about perseverance, strength, faith, and as a reminder that my problems are insignificant in comparison.
It can hold both meanings/teachings of persevering & trusting God through hard times, as well as the explanation in this video. You can read the same scripture but gain a different insight / understanding depending on what season of life you find yourself in
I watched this video a couple of years ago but I was too immature to truly understand it. This video is so rich and divinely inspired. God bless you IP 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I know this is 6 years old. I substantially agree in the main. But for me another vital lesson here is submission even in times when we are given the privilege of the fellowship of His suffering. It is true, we need to focus on relationship with Christ. It is also true that the Lord gives and takes away and may use us as He wishes.
Suppose God needs me to endure suffering in faith and in a visible way to reach the lost?
My wife of 31 years has Alzheimer's at an extremely young age, she is 57 now but we think this started 7 years ago.
When it was clear what she had and she was still more or less conherent and cognizant, she told me the following as I wept with her over the diagnosis:
She said she had a good life, saw and did many things, raised two sons, fulfilled God's will, and loved Him and then me, in that order, and was thankful for it.
She also told me that this was God's life, as in her life belongs to God. She said, "Bill, be strong, use this as a testimony, I know it will be hard on you, and I will forget, but if God had asked me to take this path if it would be a witness to help lead others to Him, I would choose this path, and so would you, because we love and serve God. We have 30 years together and we did exploits for God together, now you must go on without me, but God is with you, so be strong, and be a witness, share my story that others may see in your faith how real God is."
A huge breakthrough idea I now carry: sometimes God does not show His power by giving us victory in the present, in the flesh, in this temporal reality, but by allowing us to pass through suffering, loss, and seeming humiliation and failure in the world's eyes, and giving us the innermost strength in our inner being to himd fast our faith and witness and keep praising and serving God without blaming Him and without condition or expectations.
God hasn't healed Dora, my wife, she is on memory care, and I am suffering in ways I cannot have imagined I could have held up under. But praise be to God, I retain my joy and my faith, my love for God remains intact, my desire to serve and my witness continue as in the days of my earliest moments of faith.
In, say, 1987, the last time I had to "return to God" from a period of rebellion (around 1985-1987), when I was on fire and excited about returning to God and renewing my covenant with Him, I don't know if I could have endured this.
But in an early Bible study I ran, I said that truly faith is such we would not renounce Christ even if our own spouse or child were being held ar gunpoint and we were told they would die if we refused to renounce Jesus. It was ao controversial, some stopped coming and voiced great offense.
I stand by that. An older, more cynical, and I now think more comprised Christian told me I was being extreme and shouldn't say things like that. He told me I would "mature" and not be so "hard edged" and "radical."
But today, I can say, and wish I could tell him, I have lived that truth, I have had many losses, failures, and humiliations, I have endured virtual homelessness with a wife and two young kids, lost everything twice, and even now have many problems and sufferings I must endure. But my relationship with Jesus is still radical and focused and extreme, in the best way, not because I am so strong, I am weak and know it, but, rather, because I throw myself before the throne as a son and heir through Christ and God's Spirit fills me and literally keeps me ticking. Sometimes it feels like a marathon through hell itself and I'm happy just to make it another hour and amazed when that hour becomes days and months and years.
Suffering is not fun. But it is a privilege and honor to be given an opportunity to even slightly, as have I, experience the fellowship of His suffering, especially when the suffering is not because I have done anything deserving thereof.
This video blessed me. It taught me a lot. I had recently been reading the book ofJob and although I always believed that I knew what the book was about, I found myself being intrigued and not so sure anymore about the full message. You just cleared things up. Hallelujah!
This was the best teaching on Job I've ever heard. Thank you. It explained so much I could never understand before.
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did you know the whole book of Job is about perfection
Doing Bible in a Year with Father Mike and came across this video in hopes for a better understanding. Thank you 🙏
This is exactly what brought me here too. I just watched the episode IP did with Matt Fradd and I came here to find if he did a video on Job just so I can feel like I’m getting a better understanding of what I’m read while following along with Ft Mike.
i love this! when i have misfortunes this week after asking god to help me so i talk to god asking him why and complaining then apologising for complaining and saying how confused i am and then feeling bad for feeling confused and not trusting him
i felt so bad for not having gtatitude and faith and not staying calm and steadfast but yet through it all i was being honest with god having a relationship with him , i actually felt bad for that , but this video has made me feel betterr i am a very new christian
so i feel a lot better from watching this video
thankyou for explaining this gospel to me .
i read it today and found it very heavy going
all jobs speachifying and that of his friends
i dont feel i will be saved by grace .or have been ...maybe that my problem ...I don't feel that i deserve gods help i am very aware that i am so imperfect and a sinner , jesus said to me hed have mercy on my soul upon my death ... I try to walk with him everyday and i am so so grateful for that love even though I sin everyday ..:( ii need to live this life and it is mostly a struggle .I feel this way and then something beautiful abput life will reveal itself to my eyes every day some birds flying , a flower , some sunshine ...life is still beautiful .I still have eyes to see it . 🙏
Im 5 minutes in. I love how your lesson is put together. How you underline scripture as it is read. Im subscribed and hope to understand more of Gods Word instead of how messed up the world is. Thank you
Bless You! I finally get the anwer that I'm looking for. I wondered why the father of the prodigal son bless him and not his righteous brother. It is because he returned to his father, let go his pride and realized his father's worth and love. Same lesson about the story of Job. To love God and to not appease Him.Thanks!!! Another lesson learned!!!😊
You have put the words from my mental understanding, in an audio way that I struggle with. I have it all in my head, but when I try to speak it out loud I stumble. Thank you and stay blessed
All this time I misunderstood the Book of Job...? I remember some scholars in my former High School taught Job in different light like in the lines of: "Job is faithful although bad things happened to him because he had enough faith for God, so he was blessed in the end!" And it is crazy how my educational book in High School told the Parable of Prodigal Son, but it only focuses on the Hedonist Son, not the Moralist Son...
This is such a educational video, IP! I love this!
Thank you for this study. I feel blessed to know that through God’s mercy that we are saved. Truly powerful
This reminded me of how confusing Job was when I read it a long time ago. I remember I thought in the back of my mind that Job wasn't entirely righteous like is said in a stereotypical summary of the book, and ignored it out of it being too confusing. This really helped me to realize why. Praise the Lord our God as He has spoken, and thank you brother. I think God has spoken through you, I don't know for sure though.
I think all of you miss the point of Job, this wasn't even about property gospel.
What do you mean? Sorry if that sounded rude@@overcomingsins6334
Every time I struggle in life... This reminds me that God always has my back. Thank you Jesus.
Thankyou for making this video. After watching this I realized that I am a moralist. And I wouldn't have realized it any other way.
I have always struggled with the Book of Job because I always had more questions than answers, but this was explained beautifully! Praise Jesus for people who are likeminded and hungry for His truth!
Wow. I knew a little about the story of Job but never really wanted to dive in completely. All I can say is that I am blown away. Thank you for posting this video. I greatly appreciate the time you took to put this together for us. God Bless.
This is by far the best sermon (yes, this is a sermon) on Job that I have ever heard. This interpretation is inspired! Thank you for sharing it
Thank You Lord for leading me to read the book of Job this morning and for leading me to this message to gain understanding.
Do good deeds because they are the right thing to do, not because you want something in return...good deeds make us feel great, and that itself is a reward ❤
But those deeds alone don't earn you heaven.
My wife and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to what you had to say... thank you for the enlightening words and understanding. God Bless all on earth
Thank you as I read the Bible for most of my 54 years on this earth but I never fully understood it. This teaching answered my direct prayer for understanding my suffering and sin. I can say God revealed to me my failings and gave me so much insight into my motives and lack of a true relationship (not religion) with him and how I need to repent and trust Him in the battle I’m facing. I am humbled as I started being cynical and questioned why God allowed the trials in my life. My present trial is very hard but I need to trust God and talk to him from my heart not just follow religion doctrine. I am thankful for this teaching as I was ready to end my life as I did not think I could take a minute more of my suffering. I also thank God for the insight given of book of Job. It’s funny but I read Job many times but never fully understood its true meaning. Thank you. You inadvertently saved my life. Now I will distribute this video to as many as God leads me to.
This was wonderful! Thank you so much!!! You've cleared up years of confusion over this!
Wow! I’ve read Job many times. This is uplifting and changes the way I understand Job.
This makes so much sense. I've always felt uncomfortable with the "deal" theory. Thanks for this ❤
For it is not a result of good works, but a gift from God… 🙏🏾 God has no favorites
The more i listen to this, the more my heart is pained..i just feel something is wrong with this intetpretation.
Well God himself said that Job was blameless and upright this guy lost the argument with the first statement he made
@@daleeloph5038 Perhaps because of that virtue maybe it led to pride? And God wanted him to see that. Towards the end of the book, Job realized he is truly under the mercy of God, as we all are till our last day. I guess why Paul taught fight the good fight till the end. Pray we will be counted worthy. Jesus taught, "Strive to enter the narrow gate". If we get comfortable with our moralism it could possibly cause us to fall into self righteousness not counting on the Righteousness of Christ to save us. Isaiah said, all our righteousness is like filthy rags. (Isaiah 64:6).
We were all sinners and saved by the mercy and grace of God through the atoning blood of Christ who took our punishment and gave us all instead a "get out of jail free" card. Now we wear the righteous of Christ not our own. There is not enough good we can do in the flesh which will or can atone for our sins/sinful nature. It has already been done. Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished". I guess we need to live a life acknowledging Christ work on the cross and the liberty we have in Him bearing the fruits of the Spirit. And never get comfortable in our flesh that we have anything good in us with the exception of His Spirit who dwells in all those who have personally received Jesus as their Savior. Peace and many blessings from God above to you my friend.
That guy has put it very well
LME , lotsa guessing.
Matthew 21:41 (KJV) They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out [his] vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
Freely given, yes, but not “free”, pay your rent.
Revelation 14:12 (KJV)
Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Mic Saul I am glad you have a good understanding of God. I am still searching and learning. This is indeed a narrow road and it has been a difficult one for me. But I can truly say every hardship I have suffered for Christ sake was worth it because I love my Lord Jesus. I am so grateful that God has given me a beautiful and loving family. But there is none like Him. I look forward to that glorious day when I will see Him face to face. I have never felt like I am paying rent. Freely He gave to me my redemption when I called onto Him. Freely do I love unconditionally my Father in heaven. There is no guessing here for me. This I am very sure. Peace to you my friend. May our Lord Jesus continue to bless you richly.
There are many revelations throughout Job's story. For one, Satan exposed the fact that the believer has a hedge of protection around them. With that being said not only is the hedge of protection around them but that of there children, house and car. (possessions that the Lord blessed him with..)
There is no hedge of protection around believers. And, if there was, God doesn't seem to provide it for all believers.
Dont forget wife. The woman is also a possession.
Everyone calm down. The bible is open to interpretation and he is welcome to his. I enjoyed hearing his interpretation. Harrassing him wont get us anywhere. I hate not understanding how god could do this to his most loyal subject only to win a bet. I dont want to see god in that way so I open my ears to many people who claim they have answers, and I learn new things everytime I listen to them. Ive come to the understanding that I will never understand gods works fully and thats why we call it having faith. Faith that something is good even when all evidence is to the contrary (God has countless good works, just using the phrase to get my point across). Im going to continue searching for understanding with an open mind, open ears, and most importantly an open heart.
*Update*
Thanks to discussions in the comments I believe the book of job is a long pariable and heres why:
1) God wouldnt ruin someones life to win a bet. Thats very out of character.
2) The author of this book couldnt have known about the bet that was made. Even if it was Job or someone close to him, they wouldnt have known.
3) The way this book corresponds with how everyone feels sometimes is too perfect of a moral. (Ill elaborate if wanted)
I Agree!
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I agree, the Bible is open to interpretation, however this is a first. To make Job the opposite of what the Bible states, and using scripture to prove your point, proves my point. "Its a great book to pick and choose what it is, when you want, how you want, and for whatever you want!"
@@michaelhurtado4400 Good point, you've given me something to think about for a minute.
I agree but I think the beginning is shocking but it is God saying it doesn't matter what you do, you cannot win. The more you do to Job the closer he will look to me at not you for help.
I wanted to say thank you for clarifying this...I was struggling with this book this morning not understanding it AT ALL...I am new to Christianity and just started reading the bible..Job had me stomped & a lil scared I didn't understand it...again thank you for putting into perspective for me. 🙏
You helped another brother to better understand this book and rethink his relationship with the Almighty. God bless you.
What the hell is wrong with you? You WORSHIP a God who literally MURDERS ENTIRE FAMILIES just to teach a lesson? How morally bankrupt can you possibly get?
You are very childish and shallow in putting all the blame in God for the wrong you see. This is done by people looking for an easy way to say to themselves religion in useless. Go study more and you will maybe one day understand the consequences of free will that God granted men.
@@bobyk87 A god who murders innocent families for an ego trip is WICKEDLY and DESPERATELY EVIL.
This really isn't difficult, but religion hijacks people's morality and completely incapacitates their ability to make rational, moral judgments. I feel sorry for people whose minds are so twisted and numb that they can look at stories like Job and the one in Numbers 31 and come away worshipping and praising. These psychotic scribblings of bronze age nomadic sheep herders is filthy sewage and has NO PLACE in modern society.
@@jasonsocrathien6815 I do not have any knowledge of God killing innocent families. Think youre misunderstanding something someone told you. But fine I dont wanna change your mind and you sure wont change mine.
@@bobyk87 God allowed Satan to kill Job's entire family. God murdered every single human on the face of the earth with the flood. Throughout the course of all God's genocide and murders throughout the Old Testament, about 2.4 MILLION bodies can be counted, just by reading scripture. Joshua was freaking genocidal, pillaging, rapist warlord, and so was David, and basically every other leader of ISI-cough- I mean the Israelites. - have you never read your freaking bible? If God's "holy" warrior heroes had access to the weapons Hitler and Stalin had access to, they SURELY would have killed more than all of them combined.
These evil men praised by your scriptures murdered thousands upon thousands of people who worshiped the wrong god.
IT IS NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER OKAY TO MURDER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF RELIGION!!!!!!!!
Religion is a VICIOUS poison, a PLAGUE to the progress of mankind. Have you not read your history books?
Religion is the epitome of EVIL. FUCK GOD.
It is said of Job that he was a servant of God, blameless, upright, one who reverenced or feared God and turned away from evil. Throughout Scripture this is the description God gives of the truly righteous (Gen. 6:9, Ps. 32:11, 112:4, Prov. 2:21, 3:32, 11:5, 20, 13:6, 14:2, 11, 16:17, Luke 1:6, etc. Scripture never uses such words to describe a legalist or a “moralist.” The Pharisees were “moralists” which Christ described as those who clean the outside of the cup and dish; but their inside was full of greed and wickedness (Luke 11:39). They were hypocrites (Matt. 23:13) and God would never use terms like upright and blameless to describe their character as He did Job. God Himself said in Ezekiel 14:13,14, “If a country sins against Me by being unfaithful, and I stretch out My hand against it…even though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job were in its midst, by their own righteousness they could only save themselves.” In other words, God picked three righteous men of exemplary character that would be well known to the people. To accuse Job of being a moralist or of being legalistic contradicts God own words in describing Job.
The Lord reminded me of simply Job 1:1 in the middle of the video and I stopped watching.
I personally think job is a combination message between God's sovereignty & being our faith being tested
Saved & sober since 5/16.
Most of us figure God, if He existed, doesn't care.
It was a HUGE shock when He saved me. He actually CARES. Still blows my mind.
i remember reading about how pride is the deadliest sin and thinking how that could be true. it makes total sense now. thank you for the awesome video brother.
This is just Amazing!! I have never heard such an interpretation of the book of Job!!.. I’ve been studying the book for a while and it was not adding up until I came across this teaching!! Am guilty as charged… it has changed my perspective completely.. God truly loves us.. Thank you so much for this!!
I disagree w/ video, is if it's all about "Works." Because Noah did not actually WALK with God, he heard God. Abraham & Moses either saw the Finger of God, or
a burning bush. Adam and Job did WALK WITH GOD, as those who the Bible says; Face to Face, as a man speaketh to another. This Video wrongly
reinterprets the whole point, bc of the mundane WORKS vs. GRACE controversy. The Book of Job's lessons vary, but central, is that this man Walked with
God, besides his supplications. Job, like Adam & others knew God face to face, as Any Apostle after the resurrection & prior ascension! The Grace issue here
is a sorry ignorant depiction of post resurrection Apostles who felt the Lord's crucified hands, Mary's witness, and Job's or Adam's experience w/ God.
This is perhaps one of the greatest messages I have ever received. Thank God for this teaching! My misinterpretation of Job really messed with my perception of God’s nature. Thank you for setting me free.
I love the obvious comparison set up in the Prodigal Son(s) story, that I also missed until you pointed it out. There is so much more to the story than I realized. God is good, and you are a blessing, friend.
Praising God for the revelation He has given you! Going deep in my study of the book of Job, I “stumbled” across your channel, and was so blessed by hearing it... especially with the analogy and connection to the parable of the Prodigal “Sons”!
I really enjoyed this Book of Job Lesson. It truly coincides with My spiritual journey...2 Peter 1:3-10. Thank you for this well thought out presention! I Love You Forever!
You forget what the Almighty said to the friends of Job and that He actually admitted Job was righteous. From KJV: 7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.
8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.
9 So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the Lord commanded them: the Lord also accepted Job.
10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.
@Mike T : Excellent point!
Not only is this a great point but it shows that Job is a foreshadowing of Messiah who would suffer for others and offer a sacrifice on their behalf. I do agree that Job has a lack in his relationship with God, but it’s not a moralism or a lack of faith. Think also of 19:25 “I know my redeemer lives, and at the last he will stand upon the earth....And yet in my flesh I shall see God.”
He was righteous... but as a means to and end. (?)
Brandon Washere yes, as a type of Jesus.
Facts💯💯💯💯. I dont agree with this teaching. Job 1;8. God the Father said to satan. Have you considered my SERVANT Job. There is no one on earth like him. He is a BLAMLESS and upright who fears God and hate evil. Why would the Father call Job His servant and talk highly of Him if Job was a man who only love God because of His provisions. He have good points but I believe he is off on the character of Job. Blessings!
Thank you so much for this, I never saw this Book as clear as the way you have described it in this video. May God Bless you for posting this breakdown of the Book of Job. It had truly been a blessing to me and helping me to understand and to grow closer to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I seldom get goosebumps, but this 😢 Divinely inspired explanation left me on tears of joy. Praise be to God for bestowing such wisdom on His servant. May God bless your ministry and your loved ones good sir. Love from South Africa. ❤
One of the BEST explanations of Job I've ever heard. I can so relate to falling into performance and good works to "stay in God's favor", etc. Thank you for this!!
This study has revolutionized my way of thinking which was so out of line. Thank you. God bless you. I am sorry I am not in a posit ion to support your ministry.Thank you thank you..God bless you. I know that listening to this was no accident. I know that God loved me so much that he arranged for me to be put on the right track. I was so like the older son from the parable of the Prodigal son.
same here brother. I don't think this is an accident of seeing this video. All my life, I was thinking that if bad things happened to me, that means God is punishing me based on the wrong doings I did and if I try to be clean God will bless me but this video clearly explained it that God is not that kind.
Amen, same here!
This is an outrage. Loving god is NEVER more important than being a good person and doing good things. The very idea that loving god is morally good is just ridiculous and despicable.
@@jasonsocrathien6815 You should be an entertainer for cringe because you making believers of Christianity like us uncomfortable. If I were to love my wife than God, then I would be loving the very person I desire and love more than God. Loving God and putting him first is ALWAYS more important than being a good person and doing good things (that's something your parents would want from a normal human). Trust me, I learned the hard way.
@@elijaharroyo4846 Do you honestly think loving God is more important than being a good person (aka "works"), or are you trolling? I honestly can't tell, because that position is EXACTLY what leads to things like genocide, holy war, and terrorism. It is an extremely dangerous and destructive position to hold.
Please think about what you're saying carefully.
You lost me at 2:15. The Bible itself describes Job as "blameless", and then you go placing blame directly on his head.
I love your work, but I believe you can do better than this.
joe6428856 exactly
Important to note that blameless does not mean sinless (Romans 3:23). It only signifies that his sins have been dealt with through sacrifices. I appreciate the exposition on most of what this channel expressed.
However, i do believe this video is overly selling the idea that Job had a Phariseeic view of God, which is doing good works to earn material rewards. After reading and studying it, as well as listening to different insights. I am.of the position that Job's suffering was mainly caused as a foreshadowing of Jesus. My authority on that is John 5:39, when Jesus referred to the Old Testament. So basically every major narrative in the OT points to Jesus and His forthcoming earthly life, redemptive sacrifice and future glory.
@@brotherdext
No one is sinless,but you don't have to be sinless in order to be a righteous.
And no one in the Heberw scriptures is foreshadows Jesus or any one else in the hebrew scriptures or the so calld NT
When a person performs the will of God he is considered righteous, even if here and there he has committed sin, a righteous person does not mean "sinless"!
Abraham was consider righteous because of his deeds not because of his faith.....by deeds you are showing your faith...by deeds Abraham shows his faith and was consider a rightues!
But the fact that people are consider to be rightues doesn't necessarily mean a person deserves retribution, certainly not in the world we live in.
@@user-tj5mi5bb9m sorry, just wanted to correct that abraham wasn't righteous because of his deeds. Scripture says "And he believed in the Lord , and He accounted it to him for righteousness" Genesis 15:6
"Now, is this blessing only for the Jews, or is it also for uncircumcised Gentiles? Well, we have been saying that Abraham was counted as righteous by God because of his faith."
Romans 4:9
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Did you read in your NT the book of James?
James 2:21-24 New International Version (NIV)
21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[a] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
Or the Gosple according to Luke ch 1 vs 5-6
5 In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron. 6 *Both of them were righteous in the sight of God observing all the Lord’s commands and decrees blamelessly*.
I haven’t seen this video in a long looong time, and I’m glad I did! The book of job basically destroyed my understanding of God when I first read it and it gave me a new kind of reverence in Him, but also immense joy that He is not an evil God but a righteous one. But man that visit from Him must have been something 😅.
My number one prayer is that He never lets me go on my own sinful path (because I fall short of His glory, like a lot), but I don’t know if that’s a good approach or whether I should find a church community that has your knowledge and zeal for God’s word, which is so refreshing.
Until then, please pray for my steadfastness in my walk with our Lord 🙏🏽 Thank you again brother!
3:26 IP on comparing Job and Noah says that because Job 1:1 does not use the phrase "Job walked with God", he did not walk with God. Using that same logic, isn't it necessary to conclude that Noah did not fear God or turn from evil? Why does it go only one way? Everything which follows in the video is from this basic misunderstanding.
This basic misunderstanding is further pushed forward by more misunderstandings from unsubstantiated assumptions.
At 4:30 he assumes the intentions of Job. Nothing in the passage is any indicator that what Job was doing was not good since this is sandwiched perfectly in between the Biblical author's testimony and God's testimony of Job, that Job was upright. The author clearly meant it to be an expression of Job's uprightness. Why is Job's sacrifice criticized here but praised further along the video (when he makes sacrifice for his friends)? Nothing in the passage suggests different intentions.
At 5:58 onwards, he says that it is unusual for someone to bless the Lord in the midst of loss if they were indeed walking with him, but this is not an isolated instance. For example:
Though the fig tree does not bud
and there are no grapes on the vines,
though the olive crop fails
and the fields produce no food,
though there are no sheep in the pen
and no cattle in the stalls,
yet I will rejoice in the Lord,
I will be joyful in God my Savior.
At 7:14 he assumes that since Job's words are not addressed to God directly, this shows that he is not walking with God. All I'll say is if that's not stretching, I don't know what is.
To apply Matt 7:23 to Job shows how nonsensical this assumption is. Jesus says of the false prophet : "Depart from me you *workers of iniquity*". Compare that with God's testimony of Job.
I think IP's message is right. Moralism is not good enough. But to call Job a moralist is slander.
Thank you for this, and you also quoted my favorite verse (Habakkuk 3:17!). And I agree with you that the message is right while the interpretation kind of irks me.
I don’t see what’s wrong. Job was still in the wrong. “In all this Job did not sin with his lips.”
Job 2:10.
If I can ask, I totally understand what you’re saying but what does Job repent of then in Job 42:2-6? In his conversation with God something important him is convicted about how he was behaving and he decides to repent in ashes. While he’s a good man he realizes something was off. Please please please understand I’m not intending to argue Im just really wrestling with what this guy is saying and I would love to have a more complete understanding of scripture and God
God bless you,this has changed my life!!!....i always new there was something more to the story of JOB...THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS!!!
You opened my eyes to moralism, I love you my brother
I want to love this view of Job. I want it to satisfy the itch I get when I read Job to find a reason for the suffering! I want to (in my best Jim Carey impersonation) yell out "AND THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREEEE"!
However.... I can't escape that this way of thinking creates a vicious circle. If we say moralism is the reason for Job's suffering isn't that in fact... moralism. It seems like the point of it is to NOT be linked to Job's actions. So we aren't looking for reasons for our hardships... or other's hardships (like Job's friends). But to trust God with the why and know that he has a plan.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Isaiah 55:8-9
I couldn't finish listening to your video because of so many assumptions you were making of Job. It is clear you have actually READ the book of Job. God himself testified of Job as being blameless yet here you are looking for ways to blame him for his misfortune because of your lack of spiritual understanding.
bro watch the whole video