I don't know how you can remain an atheist after hearing the glorious poetry of God's Word, especially through the passionate, faithful words of the incredible Dr. Kreeft. Stop fighting the Truth. Let go, let God.
@@ghrohrs2020I imagine when he sees some internet rando preaching without understanding why he stands where he stands and not bothering to ask, he’ll just become closed off to whatever you want to say.
I finally understand the story of Job! I also understand so much more about who God is too. Thank you so much for sharing this! I also very much enjoyed your sharing of Ed Muskie’s comment! It was a hoot! 😆
The most beautiful opening to a clip I've ever seen. Thank you for setting such a magnificent experiential stage, a digital Cathedral, in which to listen to Dr Kreeft.
My favorite answer to the problem of evil is the greek philosopher Epictetus' "What would have become of Hercules do you think if there had been no lion, hydra, stag or boar - and no savage criminals to rid the world of? What would he have done in the absence of such challenges? Obviously he would have just rolled over in bed and gone back to sleep. So by snoring his life away in luxury and comfort he never would have developed into the mighty Hercules. And even if he had, what good would it have done him? What would have been the use of those arms, that physique, and that noble soul, without crises or conditions to stir into him action?"
Ambition, like Faith, is a mysterious gift. Foolish ambition is at least passionate. God loves passion. He can work with passion. It's the lukewarm water that He spits out. Go big or go home, says (possibly) God. If Saul hadn't been passionate about persecuting Christians, who he be as great and effective as a teacher and disciple? Would Peter have been given the keys to the Kingdom if he were just a cultural yes-man? Would Job have been rewarded tenfold with replacement riches had he just killed himself or gave up on his faith and attempted his own redemption? Be passionate first. God will make you a Saint.
I think one possible explanation for God saying Job spoke rightly and the friends didn't, is that God rewards/blesses those wrestle with Him. Think of Jacob/Israel wrestling for his blessing.
I like St. Anselm's definition of freedom, he defined it as the "capacity for preserving rectitude of the will for its own sake". For Anselm a rational agent has freedom if the actions of this agent are self-initiated, free from external pressure, and, aimed at sustaining moral correctness. As finite beings that we are, and therefore of very limited understanding, I suppose that suffering allows us to clearly see our chains ..
In the book of Job God does something we would today consider to be completely evil. Letting Job's children die. We do no longer think that children are merely a possession of the father.
TheosU, three suggestions: request more of these incredible engagements by Dr. Kreeft, stop flashing your desperate, green banner of irritation and distraction AND don't let the kitchen/housekeeping operate machinery during production. Send out a memo of etiquette for respectful silence during filming as respect to your guest presenters. This video is amazing. It's beautiful. It's inspiring. WE WANT GOD! Please do more. If you build it, we will come. Nothing is more compelling than God.
“I know now, Lord, why you utter no answer. You are Yourself the answer. Before your face questions die away. What other answer would suffice?” - C. S. Lewis, Til We Have Faces
A wealthy and perfect man who seems to have an office in the gate, may not recognize his own pride until he is disrespected. An additional benefit of being cut down is the ability to see all men as possible victims of the bad things that happen to good people. Suddenly, we can sit down with the homeless and the prostitute with absolutely no sense of superiority. Job had three of the four portions of faith. What happened to Job brought him into the portion we hear of in John/יענה as "sons of God." God speaks, Job hears. And Job has learned to accept with faith whatever God says...and repeat it. (John means "the beginning of the response of God." God does sometimes speak in a whisper so low that feels as if he has breathed in our ear. In a sense, that is exactly how it is done.)
Maybe Job used God as some cosmic vending machine. Job does good and expects riches. He did not walk with God like Abraham he used God for good things.
Possibly , but not likely. Because God Himself described Job’s character & faith as righteous. God did not see Job as using Him as a cosmic vending machine. We humans want to make Job unrighteousness. Unfaithful to God, in other for us to justify God giving Satan permission to harm Job. Yes, you can be righteous believer & Hod will allow our suffering to accomplish His purposes on Earth
This makes absolutely no sense. Jobs only transgression is that he questioned god when god caused him pain despite being a devout follower? So the moral of that story is that we should just follow god like obedient children and not question why things happen to us? That just sounds like a cult leader. What evidence or faith could we have that we can follow this great “Answerer” blindly. And what evidence is there that job benefited from that suffering?
@@NevetsWC1134Perhaps because Dr Kreeft is wrong in saying the three friends’ theology is right, retribution and prosperity. (Elihu only repeats what they said and what the accuser asserted) Or because the book is not about the problem of pain, it is about the problem of Sheol.
You must be a Baptist. They're too elitist even for God. They discount anything they can't discern through literal memorization of scripture. They read the words, but trust not the mystery within the Word. Protestants just don't get it. They need a God on their terms. They love to feel the superiority of being most religious. They seem to despise Christ's own Mother. Humility. You need it before you send everyone else to hell. You're no saint, that's quite clear.
Absolutely brilliant. Hearing from him is an embarrassment of riches. “Jesus Christ is the supreme answer to the problem of evil.” 🔥
Thank you Dr. Kreeft. So wonderfully said. God bless you.
This was great. I'm an Atheist, but I really enjoyed this. Would love to see more of Dr. Kreeft.
I don't know how you can remain an atheist after hearing the glorious poetry of God's Word, especially through the passionate, faithful words of the incredible Dr. Kreeft. Stop fighting the Truth. Let go, let God.
@@ghrohrs2020I imagine when he sees some internet rando preaching without understanding why he stands where he stands and not bothering to ask, he’ll just become closed off to whatever you want to say.
This stirs in me both faith and beauty.
I had a nightmare. I was being mentally and spiritually attacked by negative energy.and instantly woke up to this as i looked for a prayer on youtube
I hope you are doing well now friend!
Pussy.
I finally understand the story of Job! I also understand so much more about who God is too. Thank you so much for sharing this! I also very much enjoyed your sharing of Ed Muskie’s comment! It was a hoot! 😆
Exactly what I needed today. God knows each and every one of us .
All the teachers at theos are some of the smartest and greatest teachers ive ever heard
Dr Kreeft is God's Gift to me
Just discovered you here! Loved it! ❤️💙
So edifying, thank you.
i really enjoyed this, thank you!
Good talk from Dr. Kreeft.
Brilliant. thank you. I really needed that understanding.
The most beautiful opening to a clip I've ever seen. Thank you for setting such a magnificent experiential stage, a digital Cathedral, in which to listen to Dr Kreeft.
Thank you
My favorite answer to the problem of evil is the greek philosopher Epictetus' "What would have become of Hercules do you think if there had been no lion, hydra, stag or boar - and no savage criminals to rid the world of? What would he have done in the absence of such challenges?
Obviously he would have just rolled over in bed and gone back to sleep. So by snoring his life away in luxury and comfort he never would have developed into the mighty Hercules.
And even if he had, what good would it have done him? What would have been the use of those arms, that physique, and that noble soul, without crises or conditions to stir into him action?"
Ambition, like Faith, is a mysterious gift. Foolish ambition is at least passionate. God loves passion. He can work with passion. It's the lukewarm water that He spits out. Go big or go home, says (possibly) God. If Saul hadn't been passionate about persecuting Christians, who he be as great and effective as a teacher and disciple? Would Peter have been given the keys to the Kingdom if he were just a cultural yes-man? Would Job have been rewarded tenfold with replacement riches had he just killed himself or gave up on his faith and attempted his own redemption?
Be passionate first. God will make you a Saint.
I think one possible explanation for God saying Job spoke rightly and the friends didn't, is that God rewards/blesses those wrestle with Him. Think of Jacob/Israel wrestling for his blessing.
Truly impressive!
Maybe a better question would be- why do good things happen to bad people?
That's a illusion, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
@@John2verse5 How so?
Because the rain falls on the just and unjust alike.
The answer is still Jesus Christ.
If I had to do it all over again, I would be a student under him
amen
I like St. Anselm's definition of freedom, he defined it as the "capacity for preserving rectitude of the will for its own sake". For Anselm a rational agent has freedom if the actions of this agent are self-initiated, free from external pressure, and, aimed at sustaining moral correctness. As finite beings that we are, and therefore of very limited understanding, I suppose that suffering allows us to clearly see our chains ..
In the book of Job God does something we would today consider to be completely evil.
Letting Job's children die. We do no longer think that children are merely a possession of the father.
TheosU, three suggestions: request more of these incredible engagements by Dr. Kreeft, stop flashing your desperate, green banner of irritation and distraction AND don't let the kitchen/housekeeping operate machinery during production. Send out a memo of etiquette for respectful silence during filming as respect to your guest presenters. This video is amazing. It's beautiful. It's inspiring.
WE WANT GOD!
Please do more.
If you build it, we will come. Nothing is more compelling than God.
Exposição maravilhosa .
“I know now, Lord, why you utter no answer. You are Yourself the answer. Before your face questions die away. What other answer would suffice?”
- C. S. Lewis, Til We Have Faces
I wonder what Bible he's holding or reading? Any guess?
He is Catholic, therefore he is holding the Catholic Bible that has 72 books.
The Holy Bible.
@@teresak8530 73! He misspoke. But Dr. Kreeft is the best!!!
A wealthy and perfect man who seems to have an office in the gate, may not recognize his own pride until he is disrespected. An additional benefit of being cut down is the ability to see all men as possible victims of the bad things that happen to good people. Suddenly, we can sit down with the homeless and the prostitute with absolutely no sense of superiority. Job had three of the four portions of faith. What happened to Job brought him into the portion we hear of in John/יענה as "sons of God." God speaks, Job hears. And Job has learned to accept with faith whatever God says...and repeat it. (John means "the beginning of the response of God." God does sometimes speak in a whisper so low that feels as if he has breathed in our ear. In a sense, that is exactly how it is done.)
Poetry isn’t popular because music replaced it
Nowadays I find it hard to distinguish between music and noise, that's why, I guess, the AI can reproduce "music" so easily ..
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There has been only 1 good person in history- and he volunteered to be mistreated......the saints still sin or are under the curse of sin.
I don't really think the freinds of Job are right about God as God says they haven't spoken right concerning me.
Maybe Job used God as some cosmic vending machine. Job does good and expects riches. He did not walk with God like Abraham he used God for good things.
Possibly , but not likely. Because God Himself described Job’s character & faith as righteous. God did not see Job as using Him as a cosmic vending machine. We humans want to make Job unrighteousness. Unfaithful to God, in other for us to justify God giving Satan permission to harm Job. Yes, you can be righteous believer & Hod will allow our suffering to accomplish His purposes on Earth
this book pisses me off to no end- god messes with job for fun and then manipulated him into shutting up ?!
This makes absolutely no sense.
Jobs only transgression is that he questioned god when god caused him pain despite being a devout follower? So the moral of that story is that we should just follow god like obedient children and not question why things happen to us? That just sounds like a cult leader. What evidence or faith could we have that we can follow this great “Answerer” blindly. And what evidence is there that job benefited from that suffering?
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Deserve. This is an error. No body deserves anything. Of course, this requires a long explanation.
For pete sake pastor where did you get your teaching 👎 Satan get behind us Amen.
@cindyruiz7434 what part did you not like. I just started the video and was curious?
@@NevetsWC1134Perhaps because Dr Kreeft is wrong in saying the three friends’ theology is right, retribution and prosperity. (Elihu only repeats what they said and what the accuser asserted) Or because the book is not about the problem of pain, it is about the problem of Sheol.
@@michaelmartin3122 ??
You must be a Baptist. They're too elitist even for God. They discount anything they can't discern through literal memorization of scripture. They read the words, but trust not the mystery within the Word. Protestants just don't get it. They need a God on their terms. They love to feel the superiority of being most religious. They seem to despise Christ's own Mother.
Humility. You need it before you send everyone else to hell. You're no saint, that's quite clear.