I had to laugh the other day, I heard the head of the ACCC say that she is not worried about the fuel companies doing the right thing with the fuel tariff increase because of competition. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like they have ever worried about competition. Proof of this is diesel being 40 to 50 cents dearer than unleaded. On what planet should diesel be so expensive compared to petrol? There is something wrong here and the ACCC is doing nothing as usual.
Holy crap, John. You're smashing out content as of late. Are you trying to compete with Scotty Kilmer for the Most Prolific Automotive RUclipsr award (if such an award exists)?
I've still got a BF Falcon that I've had from near new. It's paint (Shockwave W5) started peeling off shortly after I got it. I took it back to the dealer (John Hughes Victoria Park in Perth) and they completely repainted it and gave me a loan car for a couple of weeks while they did it. Apparently there was a problem with the wrong undercoat being applied during manufacture. The car has been great ever since and just refuses to die, despite more than 300000 km on it.
300,000km ? That's pretty good....I bet some engineers are getting lambasted for that little "slip up". It's all about $$ which results in built-in-obsolescence these days.
@@dingopisscreek It was probably just given an undercoat last thing on a Friday afternoon and by Monday morning nobody could remember which top coat was supposed to go on it. All in all, I've had about 15 trouble free years out of it and a story to tell as a bonus.
Was behind a new Ranger the other night at the lights. Major orange peel through the entire tailgate where "Ranger" was stamped 🍊. But the new Raptor looks absolutely mint
The first models of Ford Everests have had door rust and subsequent paint peeling issues for years. Ford replaced my doors and repainted the entire car under warranty. Paint looks significantly better than what was from factory. Ford have been pretty good with warranty claims.
Yes, the factory paint is often extremely thin (the bean counters dictate to use the least amount of paint possible) and gets chips and scratches very easily. A good spray painter will have a better finish with more durable paint.
I didn’t know about the Nissan/Infiniti (USA) paint problem till today. I know about the Fiat white paint problem as my old workplace had many with the paint washing off after two years. Also the Mercedes Sprinter silver that was thin and the van rusted at 4 years (partly covered under warranty due to late sale). Mazda Soul Red apparently has issues also. Like many car makers now.
On aircrafts, spring washer is utilised for smaller screw such as, 3/32 and 7/32. They usually thread internally into a component. Self locking nuts, self locking nut plates, hi-lok fasteners, captive nuts and close tolerance bolts are widely used on airplanes. Flat washers, self locking nuts and fasteners are the way to go. The fasteners get replaced when run-on torque has failed. Or unless it is a critical design limitation, example engine hangar bolts, then it gets replaced and old bolts get sent away for NDT. I can't remember the last time I used a spring washer, apart from small screws. I even took them out of the coil spring compressor, absolutely annoying. Advancement in fastener technology has made spring washers almost obsolete.
DIN specs for spring and star washers were withdrawn years ago as they don't stop fasteners loosening, sort of why everyone used them. 2.5 times the thread width in thread length is required to prevent loosening.
In my experience its mainly white paint separating from the primer . Some nissans but mostly toyota corollas but now a few kias have popped up .one story was a Kia owner took his car back to the dealer and was told that the paint was only supposed to last only three years . The bottom line on the workmanship is do what the boss tells you what to do .the car yard doesn't care if you paint the vehicle in house paint as long as it's cheap and out of their hair .
If the paint was only supposed to last three years and Kia has a 7 year warranty that doesn't absolve them of any responsibility to make good on the problem.
Ever dealer has an obligation by their manufacturers to rectify a problem. I have a few cases here of mine... 1 Subaru replaced my whole engine an 2.5lt turbo in a liberty wagon tuned by STI under warranty due to manufacturing fault. Thanks for Subaru. 2 Ford refused to come to the party due to door handle peeling on my focus RS because of a scratch but not to why the hell it is peeling and refused to replace the handle under warranty. Never by a FORD again,and still have the rubbish of vehicle under my arsenal. 3 my Nissan had an hot pipe issue and out of warranty about 3 months in its annual service and was fully replaced under good will by Nissan witch it was organised by my dealer and was very helpful i thank Nissan for being helping to rectifying the problem. 4 my Mitsubishi Evo 10 always every now and the had a recall letter sent to me to rectifie the problem witch i never new about and they were happy to fix it when i called them about the recall. What makes a vehicle good is their after sales support to their consumers,we don't want the situation going up hill.... JUST LOOK AFTER US AND WE WILL COME BACK... WE DON'T LIKE TO BE RIPPED OFF AND TAKE ANY UNNECESSARY LEGAL ACTION BY ANY MEANS AND ENJOY THE VEHICLE LIKE JOHN CARDOGAN SAYS...I BUY CARS CHEAP....
I had an issue with rust in the chassis of an Isuzu D-Max and so the Toowoomba Dealer that I bought the vehicle from said "Read the warranty and you will see that corrosion is not warrantable" end of story. So I contacted Isuzu ute Australia and was told a similar thing and when I tried to ask for any ideas about what happens next I was told "Our records show that this problem has been dealt with and no further correspondence will be accepted on this matter". So I go to a panel shop and was told that it is a big job and we only do insurance work. Next I contacted the ACCC and was told that they have a two year backlog on complaints against car dealers and or manufacturers. Solicitors advice was "We need to get something in writing from Isuzu Ute Australia before we can take it to court" and that was never going to happen. Finally i took the vehicle in to another Isuzu Ute dealer (Tamworth) in order to trade it in and this resulted in a whole lot of yelling and stuff about the rust and so they brought in an industrial chemist to check it out. The Verdict was amazing as it appears that someone at an aftermarket 4X4 accessory fitting outlet had been asked to fit the requested bull-bar by the Toowoomba dealer and this workshop had ground the protective coating away from the chassis because the cheap chinese bull bar did not fit as snugly as it was supposed to. This idea of fitting the Bull Bar had eventually cost me around $22,000.00 as the vehicle became worthless due to the corrosion.
As someone with experience with y62 paint chips having worked in a dealership service department for a few years. From what i was told the issue was caused by the primer itself not allowing the base coat to stick correctly which led to very clear chips and flakes that were obviously not caused by rocks or other road debris. from memory the defective primer was only used on metal panels as I never saw the same flaking on the plastic bumpers. The policy when it came to getting the issue repaired under warranty was to take detailed photos with all defects marked and give Nissan quotes from panel shops to repair. I believe it was 3 quotes and as you would expect Nissan would choose the cheapest quote and we had a few cars come back in a similar condition to what was described we actually sent one car back 4 times to get runs fixed and contaminants removed from the paint we had Nissan involved and had someone from head office inspect the car and noted all the defects from the repair and the vehicle went to another shop to be repaired to a appropriate standard at alot larger expense to Nissan I believe the bare metal job was about 20k.
Paint and panel shops are some of the dodgiest concerns going around. If I was getting a "bare metal" respray, I'd be asking to see the car at the bare metal stage. When it comes to insurance jobs, you can never be quite sure what you're going to get - even though they are supposed to take photos throughout the job as evidence to the insurer, it's amazing what they can get away with using all their tricks. The vast majority of the time, they don't go back to bare metal at all. If you've got 2 or 3 paint jobs on top of each other, it will not bend or flex when somebody leans on your car, it will crack.
People often assume that the whole car is painted in the factory but it’s not. All plastic exterior parts are painted somewhere else then pit on during the line build. I was an Automotive paint rep for years and OEM’s are sluts where paint systems are concerned, they go with whoever throws the best deals at them at the time hence why VAG group ( Audi, VW. Skoda etc ) , BMW, MERC use predominantly Glasurit, Spies Hecker rather than the Japanese ROCK brand as their paint technology is better. The paint on Nissans , Hondas and LDV are pretty much abysmal and as a paint repairer myself I cringe working on them as you can tell how poorly applied they are.
When someone comes to you with a problem. Always always do nothing and you’ll find over half won’t come back. The car dealers do this and save over 50% of the cost of repairs they would have to pay if they did something from the first complaint. Brilliant idea
I would say it’s in the realm of a major issue since they will have to strip all sorts of bits and bobs (breaking the plastic clips etc etc on the way) to do the paint job. I am damned sure it’s not going back together factory spec, and who knows how many issues will crop up over time as a result.
Hi John. Maybe I'm using my ball wrong. I also don't have any scuff marks after 49 years of use. Fantastic show as always. Don't change anything or I will send you a Christmas card...
Paint peeling of the car because it’s too hard? Bullshit. Poor prep or contamination of the substrate is more likely. This man deserves a refund or new car.
Most people who have wielded a spray gun more than a couple of times struggle to get a finish as bad as factory paint. It's not a recent thing either. Just painting over failing factory paint won't fix anything.
Hi John Your videos are great , to the point and realistically very true ! I wonder if the government can create a position for you in their ministerial cabinet as an Automotive Adviser/ Protection Minister !!!! Not sure if it sounds silly or a dam good idea ??? Cheers Darren.
A friend used to work at a car manufacturing plant in south America. He said he'd never buy a car made from 2020 to 2023, he's seen what happens to stamped sheet metal if there is any hold up in the assembly process that causes a delay to completing coating process.
I have a few regular customers with Mercedes cars. 5 of the 8 cars I see regularly have paint defects. Peeling paint, orange peel finish, differing colour shades on panels. The worse being an AMG Merc at the time it had 300 miles on the clock. Paint runs in the metallic on the door what looks like sanding marks under the clear coat on the bumper and what looks like a blend line under the fuel filler. The Mercedes dealer has been and continues to be less than helpful.
As a retailer, the last thing you want your customers to know is that the ACL even exists … we don’t want customers to know that the Manufacturer’s warranty T & Cs are irrelevant and that the ACL trumps them every time. Retailers hate people like you (and A Current Affair) for telling the public their rights and remedies under the ACL. They don’t even tell their own staff about it .. wouldn’t want the staff giving away something for nothing (not before it escalates to management for resolution - hopefully the customer has given up by then) And you expect entry level customer service to begin with compliance …. Good luck with that !
Clear coat failure in part is caused by moisture being trapped between paint and clear. Car factory don't stop painting when condition s are moist it's pot luck
Aren't these cars painted in a hermetically sealed, temperature controlled environment? I doubt they just go over the car with a can of spray paint outside
@@BoleDaPole maybe but your house AC don't work to well when the door open every few minutes it's a due point Measurement taken prior to paint if there is to much moisture in the air you are out of spec to paint systems that require no clear coat are affected less n have UV protection in the paint itself instead
The tow ball is just a starter level Sessary fitter fail. I have seen examples of elite level Sessary fitter fails, one of the finest being a brand spanking new LandCruiser with a pop rivet in the roof covered with a dob of silicon due to a cargo barrier fitting incident. like no one will ever notice.😉
Maybe I don't understand it but if The Feds have written laws that are for consumers and Companies why should I police them ? The ACCC should be giving me a Submission Number to take to 3 Lawyers to get a quote the ACCC pays the Court fees as we take the Business to Court to get the Consumer Act ruling.
What gets me stuffed, is the ACCC makes a profit with the huge fines that get dished out. why don't they just go to town on these manufacturers? It's so profitable for them.
I had a paint problem in 1999 with a new Subaru. I picked the car up late and it was dark ( I know. BIG mistake). The next day I noticed the paint had been buffed by the apprentice from hell. Buff marks galore. The Subaru dealer first offered a respray. I told them to call head office and a day later they ordered another car to replace it. A+ for Subaru head office Fail for the dealer
The Patrol isn't exactly a small, budget shitter either, they're at last I looked an 80-90k vehicle which is quite a pricey investment. If it was some kind of Micra you picked up as a beats walking you might put up with a bit of rubbish build quality because its next to worthless after being driven off the lot. At the price of a Patrol, nah it really should have a much more robust paint job even just on the basis its a big old outdoor lump for 4wd'ing around in- well they used to do that in them!
Got a 32 year old Nissan Patrol here. Paint is a tad faded (black/grey) and has quite a few stone chips but no clear coat peeling or any issues with the paint coming off. Rock solid. Just like they should be.
It's Renaults POS paint. Renaults heve been peeling since 1995, since they introduced "eco" friendly paint. Renault is by far the worst automotive brand on the planet. Just stay away from any product connected them.
Crazy idea... print off some large signs stating the facts about the car in bold, easily legible writing that can be read at least 10 metres away. Park the car outside the dealership (if possible) and have the signs displaying in the vehicle (so they can't be removed). I'm talking about signs big enough to cover the entire back window, front window and across the road side passenger windows. Then wait and see how long it takes the dealership to come to the table. Or threaten to do this with the intention of following through. 🤔
I have a paint problem with my 2016 nissan versa note. Metalic blue paint peeling off. Looks lovely. Warranty dept won't do anything about it. I've seen 2 other blue versa note with the same problem
Your comment about how manufacturers see their responsibility reminds me of my opinion of building codes. Builders rebuke complaints about any aspect of the job by saying "it's up to code." To me, that means that the work or the product is as bad as it can get without failing an inspection.
Sixty bucks to have a tribunal make a ruling vs who knows how much for a solicitor who is very unlikely to have a basic understanding of consumer law? Hmmm.
Nothing new here, Dude. I bought a new MQ Nissan Patrol in 1980. The red paint faded and peeled in five years time. Bought a MK Patrol in 1985, same problem. Bought a GU Patrol in 2000, however it took 20 years for that one to poop it's painted pants. But I must say, this was more to do with a repaired and painted wing, than anything Mr. Nissan sprayed on back in the land of the rising sun.
It's not talking to lawyers that is the problem, it is paying the inflated charges and shoring up the lousy self-serving legal system. How can court cases run to several months when you can't even hang anyone these days????
Go to Bunnings and buy a paint brush and a tin of kill rust enamel, your paint job will last much longer than the water based garbage they put on cars these days. Will look lovely from 20 ft away.😅
Yep 500 meters away, and looking through a set of binoculars back to front. Rattle cans would give a far better finish than a brush. 1200 wet and dry, a shit load of soap and about four full days to deal with brush marks.
You can take a mistake, make it right (give her a new vehicle), and probably get a customer for life-resulting in increased earnings over time. How do these companies not understand that?
The guy with the painted twice patrol in my opinion should be offered full refund by nissan , they at nissan didnt think it was that bad but if i paid 120 thousand it would be bad to me or anybody who got caught with this issue , re spray can be achieved but will it look the same as all other patrols the same type an color most likely not , stand your ground people
Was the problem stone chipping of the coating? 50-60 um of clear coat is not going to be bullet proof. What is the owners expectations of the coatings performance. Having said that, the refinish job sounds like it was a mess.
There's a class action lawsuit in Canada against Honda for a similar issue. Every slightly older Honda Civic you see looks like it's just getting over a sunburn. The clearcoat peels off every one of them.
There’s definitely an argument to mount that repainting the car is not a remedy that will put you back in the same position you were in the day you drove it out of the dealers yard brand-new because it’s not factory paint and in the event theres a chemical reaction occurring any respray will also fail in the fullness of time….. So theres that DUUUUUUDE
I want your T-Shirts John, the subtle "fuck of'" is something that tickles me with every clip~ please tell me and all of the other brothers where to get these.
The car would need to stripped back to the state it was in before the original spraying. Which means removed EVERYTHING from the carcass of the car. How can ANYONE think that any other solution is acceptable? If it was me I would ask for a full refund and go elsewhere for my next car.
Tar, Johnno. Since your last episode, on this subject, everywhere I go, I see multiple white Toyotas missing paint. (Ipswich). Looking forward to now noticing bad jam on ‘new’ Patrols. Lots of old Patrols around here, bashed up, lifted, many with hand spotties mounted on the roof, or on the exterior mirror frames, a bit of padding on the mirror frame, so as not to scratch the rifle cabinetry, and a big MF pig dog cage bolted on the back. To your correspondent, my advice is go buy yourself anything else not nissan, and let your stinkin Patrol ‘trickle down’ to the pig huntin with huge cross bred dogs market, where all Patrols go to die.
You are Correct and Nissan should have to replace the Vehicle as if it is painted a Third Time the Quality is Uncertain..Anyway Nissan has always been Shit with Warranty I am a Mechanic and have seen some strange and Dishonest Repairs for Warranty by Many Dealership's and Nissan. My Neighbour has a Nissan Navara Dual Cab Deisel. At 131,000kms it had a Faulty Thermostat resulting in a Cylinder Head + Gasket Failure. Nissan Would not Warranty it as it had past the 130,000 kms Warranty or 3 years, it was 34 months old..At a Cost of $7,000.00 as they had to replace the Injectors as well, Nissan claimed were Faulty. I believe it was Disgusting of Nissan and they were prepared to fight it in Court except my Neighbour paid up as he needed his work Truck every day and he wasn't prepared to take Nissan to Court without a Vehicle for years..Anyway let me say that Nissan Australia's Performance was Shocking..I have also seen Mitsubishi Vehicle's using oil and the Owners leaving the Car at the Dealership for a week and then told it is now fixed and it had only been overfilled by 1.5 litres of oil and the Customer's were told not to check the Oil and return the Vehicle in 6 weeks for Re Evaluation...Surprise, Surprise it appears to be Full. Job well done Mitsubishi...This happens more often than you think. Check out a Used Car and it has the Books Freshly Stamped for Service recently showing it has been Serviced and Fully Checked by their 100+ Pre Sale Checkups, Only to find Bald tyres painted shiny Black with matching Engine Oil that hasn't been changed...My Advice is Read your Service Books and Purchase your own Quality Oils and appropriate products and have a Mobile Mechanic come and do your Services and Repairs..Big Savings and great Quality of Work that you can see how long it takes to Carry Out..Regards Phillip
@@sheerluckholmes5468 thanks buddy a very interesting read if you are of an engineering leaning, page 9 for anyone just wanting to find out about washers.
The shifter is understandable, there is a Knipex Pliers Wrench there to use instead, why it looks unused though is suspicious, mine were significantly less red after a week.
Probably someone was wearing very strong cologne in the paint room that day! Dealship should of sent the car back when they noticed the paint was bubbling or pealing.
I don't know about there, but here in America the EPA is the problem. My dad has a 1942 Studebaker Dictator that has never been repainted and still looks good after 80 years. The EPA changes paint requirements every few years trying to be more "green" meaning we are always in a testing phase instead of using what has worked for a century.
So John can you come to the rescue i and a friend are in deep shit. Sorry, i will be using the French here and there as words fail me too. So friend had a car accident with her MG car. She was at fault. Car is less than 2 years and is on comprensive car insurance with Allianz. We been told the repair of the car is going to take 3 to 6 months as there are no part in Australia to repair the car. The car is at a repair shop as i generate this comment until repairs are done. We attempted to argue the major problem as a result of the accident and asked for a full refund. The insurer is digging their heels in the sand and retorted that we are not entitled to a full refund as this is not covered under the insurance. We are thinking of contacting MG directly and ask for a refund or replacement vehicle. Do you think we are on the right direction to pursue this with MG directly? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. T.
Nothing to do with MG. It's an accident not a manufacturing fault. Your dispute is with the insurer. If they're messing you about see an insurance lawyer.
What planet do you live on if you think the car manufacturer is even the slightest bit responsible for a car you crashed just because you underinsured it? This is an insurance issue plain and simple. If you cannot be without a vehicle, dont skimp on your insurance, make sure you have unlimited hire car. If you dont then you just have to wear it, it is no ones responsiblity but your own (unless, contrary to what you stated, the accident was due to a major mechanical fault of the vehicle in which case the right lawyer may make a case work).
It's not MG's problem. It's Allianz's problem. Talk to a lawyer and find out what you can do (if anything) to either hurry Allianz along, or to arrange some other kind of solution whilst the car is being fixed e.g. a no cost or heavily subsidised hire car.
My old 2007 D40 had peeling paint that I had big fight with them before they offered to pay 50% of the repair. Was still going to cost me $4.5k because the problem was the primer under the paint and was going to have to be completely stripped. Told them to shove it and got a mate to patch it up enough stop it spreading for a few years. Can't believe or maybe I can with how shit they are that they STILL haven't solved the paint problem. Never will by a Nissan again. I hope they don't cause problems for the new Triton and Mitsubishi doesn't get the Nissan stank.
Slightly off topic i know, but... What are those black things in the red and grey wall mounted containers on the wall over your left shoulder and behind you?
Id say the only reason we have good legislation in this case is so the government can say that the consumer has protection. As you say John, pretty pointless unless the body in charge gets off the backsides and does something constructive, like say....prosecute the manufacturers. Youd figure it would be an easy case to prove considering how many disgruntled car buyers (with legitimate grievances) there are.
The dealer & the manufacturer are betting they can get away with fobbing their customers off. The ACCC didn't put their bet in cause they were asleep. The only "fly in the ointment" is being publicly called out by someone like you, John. I hope you feel ashamed of yourself!
I don't think it's a coincidence that the ACCC doesn't do much enforcement, and I don't think that is by choice of ACCC. If you need a hint, look at what happened to NSW ICAC.
@@AutoExpertJC As for judging a man by how beat up his tools are... Ok a little different to spanners but over the year I've acquired a fair amount of metrology gear. As I only work in my shed these days some of it would be lucky to be used once a year, so it should be clapped out about the same time as the heat death of the universe. But boy it can be handy now and then.
Nissans, Hondas, LDV,s , Hyundai the paint on these vehicles is just dreadful OEM’s cheap out on the paint especially the zinc anti corrosion protection it’s just not good enough for what the consumer is paying for. Hell, they’re adding on average about $2000 extra to the average car now but are always finding ways to lower the build costs of them hence they find cheaper paint brands as paint suppliers and that’s where it all goes wrong.
I know you cop shit for saying good things about KIA but, true story: BiL has 2018 Stinger GT in yellow. In 2019 he's contacted by KIA advising his paint is defective and to contact his dealer. He hadn't realised there was a problem. Long story short. KIA took his car and provided him with a Stinger GT replacement. Hi car was returned to S. Korea disassembled and completely repainted. Returned 3 months later.
But Australians keep buying these overpriced models, that’s why dealers don’t give two stuffs , you can’t bust the dealers if consumers keep lining up for the big screw and paying for it with big bucks. It’s like whinging about politicians, the public through their genuine lack of care and apathetic approach, wonder why nothing changes. I guess you can’t legislate against stupidity. Argh Australia home of the free land of the apathetic.
A few days after the warranty expired my car dealer fixed a fault (wipermotor - and the only fault in 11 years) for free, he's a good one and I would by his shitbrand (Fiat) again.
The voice!! Dead Being an Ex panel beater a expert quality paint job needs to come back to bare metal especially if the original paint was flaking off, A shit substrate gets a shit paint job, and a bare metal spray job on a Patrol I imagine would cost $30k. Ps Nissans suck balls.
"The problem with making something completely foolproof is underestimating the ingenuity of complete fools."
Bet you expected more from that comment.
Unless your a fool, you cant make something foolproof.
@@100Jeanluc *you’re.
@@craigdavid6668 You beat me to it. Lol
I had to laugh the other day, I heard the head of the ACCC say that she is not worried about the fuel companies doing the right thing with the fuel tariff increase because of competition. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like they have ever worried about competition. Proof of this is diesel being 40 to 50 cents dearer than unleaded. On what planet should diesel be so expensive compared to petrol? There is something wrong here and the ACCC is doing nothing as usual.
Holy crap, John. You're smashing out content as of late. Are you trying to compete with Scotty Kilmer for the Most Prolific Automotive RUclipsr award (if such an award exists)?
He's going for Silver in the Toyota Fan Boi Olympics....
Well, he makes $10k per video, so why not I say?
@@Bubbles12345-cat Scotty or John?
I've still got a BF Falcon that I've had from near new. It's paint (Shockwave W5) started peeling off shortly after I got it. I took it back to the dealer (John Hughes Victoria Park in Perth) and they completely repainted it and gave me a loan car for a couple of weeks while they did it.
Apparently there was a problem with the wrong undercoat being applied during manufacture. The car has been great ever since and just refuses to die, despite more than 300000 km on it.
300,000km ? That's pretty good....I bet some engineers are getting lambasted for that little "slip up".
It's all about $$ which results in built-in-obsolescence these days.
@@davidnobular9220 It's not had a lot of love in that time either.
How can a major car manufacturer use the 'wrong' undercoat? Is there no quality control? Seems like someone was asleep on the job
@@dingopisscreek It was probably just given an undercoat last thing on a Friday afternoon and by Monday morning nobody could remember which top coat was supposed to go on it.
All in all, I've had about 15 trouble free years out of it and a story to tell as a bonus.
@@dingopisscreek in any large operation mistakes happen.
Was behind a new Ranger the other night at the lights. Major orange peel through the entire tailgate where "Ranger" was stamped 🍊. But the new Raptor looks absolutely mint
a Nissan Navara owner in Tuncurry was given a full refund for defective paint although it took over 12 months to get it with many court appearances
The first models of Ford Everests have had door rust and subsequent paint peeling issues for years. Ford replaced my doors and repainted the entire car under warranty. Paint looks significantly better than what was from factory. Ford have been pretty good with warranty claims.
You seem to have enjoyed the exploitation of your goodwill. I'd pass on their 'pretty good'.
Yes, the factory paint is often extremely thin (the bean counters dictate to use the least amount of paint possible) and gets chips and scratches very easily. A good spray painter will have a better finish with more durable paint.
Same problem and then poor paint job and now door rust back on the new doors,14 months later. Currently at QCAT.
Oh my god John, I TOO HATE SPRING WASHERS😂- I knew we shared something in common.
I didn’t know about the Nissan/Infiniti (USA) paint problem till today. I know about the Fiat white paint problem as my old workplace had many with the paint washing off after two years. Also the Mercedes Sprinter silver that was thin and the van rusted at 4 years (partly covered under warranty due to late sale).
Mazda Soul Red apparently has issues also. Like many car makers now.
I saw an almost new BMW X3 today that appeared to be painted in glossy grey primer. I was wondering when it was going back for the top coat. 🤔
On aircrafts, spring washer is utilised for smaller screw such as, 3/32 and 7/32. They usually thread internally into a component. Self locking nuts, self locking nut plates, hi-lok fasteners, captive nuts and close tolerance bolts are widely used on airplanes. Flat washers, self locking nuts and fasteners are the way to go. The fasteners get replaced when run-on torque has failed. Or unless it is a critical design limitation, example engine hangar bolts, then it gets replaced and old bolts get sent away for NDT. I can't remember the last time I used a spring washer, apart from small screws. I even took them out of the coil spring compressor, absolutely annoying. Advancement in fastener technology has made spring washers almost obsolete.
DIN specs for spring and star washers were withdrawn years ago as they don't stop fasteners loosening, sort of why everyone used them. 2.5 times the thread width in thread length is required to prevent loosening.
In my experience its mainly white paint separating from the primer . Some nissans but mostly toyota corollas but now a few kias have popped up .one story was a Kia owner took his car back to the dealer and was told that the paint was only supposed to last only three years . The bottom line on the workmanship is do what the boss tells you what to do .the car yard doesn't care if you paint the vehicle in house paint as long as it's cheap and out of their hair .
If the paint was only supposed to last three years and Kia has a 7 year warranty that doesn't absolve them of any responsibility to make good on the problem.
What it boiled down to was the dealer didn't want anything to do with the problem they just don't care
@@markswansborough9426 Show me a dealer that really cares. It doesn't exist.
"Three Years" 😅🤣😂
Ever dealer has an obligation by their manufacturers to rectify a problem.
I have a few cases here of mine...
1 Subaru replaced my whole engine an 2.5lt turbo in a liberty wagon tuned by STI under warranty due to manufacturing fault.
Thanks for Subaru.
2 Ford refused to come to the party due to door handle peeling on my focus RS because of a scratch but not to why the hell it is peeling and refused to replace the handle under warranty.
Never by a FORD again,and still have the rubbish of vehicle under my arsenal.
3 my Nissan had an hot pipe issue and out of warranty about 3 months in its annual service and was fully replaced under good will by Nissan witch it was organised by my dealer and was very helpful i thank Nissan for being helping to rectifying the problem.
4 my Mitsubishi Evo 10 always every now and the had a recall letter sent to me to rectifie the problem witch i never new about and they were happy to fix it when i called them about the recall.
What makes a vehicle good is their after sales support to their consumers,we don't want the situation going up hill....
JUST LOOK AFTER US AND WE WILL COME BACK...
WE DON'T LIKE TO BE RIPPED OFF AND TAKE ANY UNNECESSARY LEGAL ACTION BY ANY MEANS AND ENJOY THE VEHICLE LIKE JOHN CARDOGAN SAYS...I BUY CARS CHEAP....
I had an issue with rust in the chassis of an Isuzu D-Max and so the Toowoomba Dealer that I bought the vehicle from said "Read the warranty and you will see that corrosion is not warrantable" end of story. So I contacted Isuzu ute Australia and was told a similar thing and when I tried to ask for any ideas about what happens next I was told "Our records show that this problem has been dealt with and no further correspondence will be accepted on this matter".
So I go to a panel shop and was told that it is a big job and we only do insurance work. Next I contacted the ACCC and was told that they have a two year backlog on complaints against car dealers and or manufacturers.
Solicitors advice was "We need to get something in writing from Isuzu Ute Australia before we can take it to court" and that was never going to happen.
Finally i took the vehicle in to another Isuzu Ute dealer (Tamworth) in order to trade it in and this resulted in a whole lot of yelling and stuff about the rust and so they brought in an industrial chemist to check it out.
The Verdict was amazing as it appears that someone at an aftermarket 4X4 accessory fitting outlet had been asked to fit the requested bull-bar by the Toowoomba dealer and this workshop had ground the protective coating away from the chassis because the cheap chinese bull bar did not fit as snugly as it was supposed to.
This idea of fitting the Bull Bar had eventually cost me around $22,000.00 as the vehicle became worthless due to the corrosion.
As someone with experience with y62 paint chips having worked in a dealership service department for a few years. From what i was told the issue was caused by the primer itself not allowing the base coat to stick correctly which led to very clear chips and flakes that were obviously not caused by rocks or other road debris. from memory the defective primer was only used on metal panels as I never saw the same flaking on the plastic bumpers. The policy when it came to getting the issue repaired under warranty was to take detailed photos with all defects marked and give Nissan quotes from panel shops to repair. I believe it was 3 quotes and as you would expect Nissan would choose the cheapest quote and we had a few cars come back in a similar condition to what was described we actually sent one car back 4 times to get runs fixed and contaminants removed from the paint we had Nissan involved and had someone from head office inspect the car and noted all the defects from the repair and the vehicle went to another shop to be repaired to a appropriate standard at alot larger expense to Nissan I believe the bare metal job was about 20k.
Paint and panel shops are some of the dodgiest concerns going around. If I was getting a "bare metal" respray, I'd be asking to see the car at the bare metal stage. When it comes to insurance jobs, you can never be quite sure what you're going to get - even though they are supposed to take photos throughout the job as evidence to the insurer, it's amazing what they can get away with using all their tricks. The vast majority of the time, they don't go back to bare metal at all. If you've got 2 or 3 paint jobs on top of each other, it will not bend or flex when somebody leans on your car, it will crack.
Can you use the The Gunman? He is an awesome painter, the stuff he pumps out is better than factory.
People often assume that the whole car is painted in the factory but it’s not. All plastic exterior parts are painted somewhere else then pit on during the line build. I was an Automotive paint rep for years and OEM’s are sluts where paint systems are concerned, they go with whoever throws the best deals at them at the time hence why VAG group ( Audi, VW. Skoda etc ) , BMW, MERC use predominantly Glasurit, Spies Hecker rather than the Japanese ROCK brand as their paint technology is better. The paint on Nissans , Hondas and LDV are pretty much abysmal and as a paint repairer myself I cringe working on them as you can tell how poorly applied they are.
Isn't the spring washer supposed to be between the NUT and the flange (not the ball)....to prevent it from coming loose?
Congratulations Roger, you just passed the Amateur Engineers exam 😅 .. sadly the 1st year apprentice at the dealer did not.
My 2006 GU Nissan Patrol hasn't got any paint problems and it's been parked out in the sun most of it's 16 years of life
When someone comes to you with a problem. Always always do nothing and you’ll find over half won’t come back. The car dealers do this and save over 50% of the cost of repairs they would have to pay if they did something from the first complaint. Brilliant idea
Good to see the linisher has been put back together.
Nah, the unfitted abrasive belt has just been moved out of view….still has only got the rubber belt.
I would say it’s in the realm of a major issue since they will have to strip all sorts of bits and bobs (breaking the plastic clips etc etc on the way) to do the paint job. I am damned sure it’s not going back together factory spec, and who knows how many issues will crop up over time as a result.
WE can only dream of the paint jobs on 1999- 2002 Nissan maxima Tis that were still shining in 2020.
That was back in the good old days before Nissan was ruined by Renault.
Thick paint= bad for the environment.
Hi John. Maybe I'm using my ball wrong. I also don't have any scuff marks after 49 years of use. Fantastic show as always. Don't change anything or I will send you a Christmas card...
How many tones were you hauling with it?
@@AutoExpertJC Some of the towee were bigger but they all had a weight considerably less than tow-er... Lol
@@AutoExpertJC your spelling disappoints me John, glass houses..
Paint peeling of the car because it’s too hard? Bullshit. Poor prep or contamination of the substrate is more likely. This man deserves a refund or new car.
You are the automotive Erin Brockavich 👏
And I have better legs...
We had some Toyota Corolla and RAV 4 with similar paint issues. Cars were managed by Orix and they did what fleet companies do …
Most people who have wielded a spray gun more than a couple of times struggle to get a finish as bad as factory paint. It's not a recent thing either.
Just painting over failing factory paint won't fix anything.
Hi John
Your videos are great , to the point and realistically very true ! I wonder if the government can create a position for you in their ministerial cabinet as an Automotive Adviser/ Protection Minister !!!! Not sure if it sounds silly or a dam good idea ???
Cheers
Darren.
Would'nt that sit well with the automotive political donors!!!!!
Haha. I have a feeling JC would rather chop his own nuts off rather than work with a bunch of fools (politicians).
John, the grammar taser enforcer.
He really needa,
Fulltime proof reader,
Stupid mouth breather.
A friend used to work at a car manufacturing plant in south America. He said he'd never buy a car made from 2020 to 2023, he's seen what happens to stamped sheet metal if there is any hold up in the assembly process that causes a delay to completing coating process.
your friend sounds like they have single digit IQ
I've noticed a lot of people having their peeling paint Toyotas repainted at Toyota's expense.
Which models?
@@billmccarthy5920 The white Corolla (think its a 2014 model) I have just been driving has paint peeling off the roof in about 10 or 15 spots.
Nissan and Toyota both use Nippon paints
@@billmccarthy5920 most models I think. Corolla, Prado, Rav, LandCruiser at least anyway.
I have a few regular customers with Mercedes cars.
5 of the 8 cars I see regularly have paint defects.
Peeling paint, orange peel finish, differing colour shades on panels.
The worse being an AMG Merc at the time it had 300 miles on the clock.
Paint runs in the metallic on the door what looks like sanding marks under the clear coat on the bumper and what looks like a blend line under the fuel filler.
The Mercedes dealer has been and continues to be less than helpful.
As a retailer, the last thing you want your customers to know is that the ACL even exists … we don’t want customers to know that the Manufacturer’s warranty T & Cs are irrelevant and that the ACL trumps them every time.
Retailers hate people like you (and A Current Affair) for telling the public their rights and remedies under the ACL. They don’t even tell their own staff about it .. wouldn’t want the staff giving away something for nothing (not before it escalates to management for resolution - hopefully the customer has given up by then)
And you expect entry level customer service to begin with compliance …. Good luck with that !
Clear coat failure in part is caused by moisture being trapped between paint and clear. Car factory don't stop painting when condition s are moist it's pot luck
Aren't these cars painted in a hermetically sealed, temperature controlled environment?
I doubt they just go over the car with a can of spray paint outside
@@BoleDaPole maybe but your house AC don't work to well when the door open every few minutes it's a due point Measurement taken prior to paint if there is to much moisture in the air you are out of spec to paint systems that require no clear coat are affected less n have UV protection in the paint itself instead
The tow ball is just a starter level Sessary fitter fail. I have seen examples of elite level Sessary fitter fails, one of the finest being a brand spanking new LandCruiser with a pop rivet in the roof covered with a dob of silicon due to a cargo barrier fitting incident. like no one will ever notice.😉
Maybe I don't understand it but if The Feds have written laws that are for consumers and Companies why should I police them ? The ACCC should be giving me a Submission Number to take to 3 Lawyers to get a quote the ACCC pays the Court fees as we take the Business to Court to get the Consumer Act ruling.
5:58 I feel your pain. Ignorance truly is bliss.
What gets me stuffed, is the ACCC makes a profit with the huge fines that get dished out. why don't they just go to town on these manufacturers? It's so profitable for them.
I had a paint problem in 1999 with a new Subaru.
I picked the car up late and it was dark ( I know. BIG mistake).
The next day I noticed the paint had been buffed by the apprentice from hell. Buff marks galore.
The Subaru dealer first offered a respray. I told them to call head office and a day later they ordered another car to replace it.
A+ for Subaru head office
Fail for the dealer
The Patrol isn't exactly a small, budget shitter either, they're at last I looked an 80-90k vehicle which is quite a pricey investment. If it was some kind of Micra you picked up as a beats walking you might put up with a bit of rubbish build quality because its next to worthless after being driven off the lot. At the price of a Patrol, nah it really should have a much more robust paint job even just on the basis its a big old outdoor lump for 4wd'ing around in- well they used to do that in them!
Got a 32 year old Nissan Patrol here. Paint is a tad faded (black/grey) and has quite a few stone chips but no clear coat peeling or any issues with the paint coming off. Rock solid. Just like they should be.
It's Renaults POS paint. Renaults heve been peeling since 1995, since they introduced "eco" friendly paint. Renault is by far the worst automotive brand on the planet. Just stay away from any product connected them.
John what happen to comments from Hell on Friday ..... I was waiting
Crazy idea... print off some large signs stating the facts about the car in bold, easily legible writing that can be read at least 10 metres away. Park the car outside the dealership (if possible) and have the signs displaying in the vehicle (so they can't be removed). I'm talking about signs big enough to cover the entire back window, front window and across the road side passenger windows. Then wait and see how long it takes the dealership to come to the table. Or threaten to do this with the intention of following through. 🤔
I have a paint problem with my 2016 nissan versa note. Metalic blue paint peeling off. Looks lovely. Warranty dept won't do anything about it. I've seen 2 other blue versa note with the same problem
My mate has a paint shop. He is being paid to re paint them by Nissan .
Your comment about how manufacturers see their responsibility reminds me of my opinion of building codes. Builders rebuke complaints about any aspect of the job by saying "it's up to code." To me, that means that the work or the product is as bad as it can get without failing an inspection.
When it comes to consumer protection; the whole residential building sector is an utter farce.
So the Airbus Patrol is also having paint issues???
So with Nissan slowly making all Mitsubishi vehicles just a badge engineered range, do you think the customer service might suffer at the latter?
Do you use the tools that surround you ?
Sixty bucks to have a tribunal make a ruling vs who knows how much for a solicitor who is very unlikely to have a basic understanding of consumer law? Hmmm.
Nothing new here, Dude. I bought a new MQ Nissan Patrol in 1980. The red paint faded and peeled in five years time. Bought a MK Patrol in 1985, same problem. Bought a GU Patrol in 2000, however it took 20 years for that one to poop it's painted pants. But I must say, this was more to do with a repaired and painted wing, than anything Mr. Nissan sprayed on back in the land of the rising sun.
It's not talking to lawyers that is the problem, it is paying the inflated charges and shoring up the lousy self-serving legal system. How can court cases run to several months when you can't even hang anyone these days????
Go to Bunnings and buy a paint brush and a tin of kill rust enamel, your paint job will last much longer than the water based garbage they put on cars these days. Will look lovely from 20 ft away.😅
Yep 500 meters away, and looking through a set of binoculars back to front. Rattle cans would give a far better finish than a brush.
1200 wet and dry, a shit load of soap and about four full days to deal with brush marks.
Hammerite takes care of orange peel.....looks standard then eh mate!
All the planet savers know best..
You can take a mistake, make it right (give her a new vehicle), and probably get a customer for life-resulting in increased earnings over time. How do these companies not understand that?
The guy with the painted twice patrol in my opinion should be offered full refund by nissan , they at nissan didnt think it was that bad but if i paid 120 thousand it would be bad to me or anybody who got caught with this issue , re spray can be achieved but will it look the same as all other patrols the same type an color most likely not , stand your ground people
Was the problem stone chipping of the coating? 50-60 um of clear coat is not going to be bullet proof. What is the owners expectations of the coatings performance. Having said that, the refinish job sounds like it was a mess.
There's a class action lawsuit in Canada against Honda for a similar issue. Every slightly older Honda Civic you see looks like it's just getting over a sunburn. The clearcoat peels off every one of them.
There’s definitely an argument to mount that repainting the car is not a remedy that will put you back in the same position you were in the day you drove it out of the dealers yard brand-new because it’s not factory paint and in the event theres a chemical reaction occurring any respray will also fail in the fullness of time…..
So theres that
DUUUUUUDE
These types of trucks have nearly always been an appealing acquisition for Cro Magnon Australis .
Also Cromagnum...the refined Australian alcoholic....
I want your T-Shirts John, the subtle "fuck of'" is something that tickles me with every clip~ please tell me and all of the other brothers where to get these.
Wasn't NISSAN the company said to be offering a new 'self repairing paint' in the near future, or so I had been informed...???
The car would need to stripped back to the state it was in before the original spraying. Which means removed EVERYTHING from the carcass of the car. How can ANYONE think that any other solution is acceptable? If it was me I would ask for a full refund and go elsewhere for my next car.
Tar, Johnno. Since your last episode, on this subject, everywhere I go, I see multiple white Toyotas missing paint. (Ipswich).
Looking forward to now noticing bad jam on ‘new’ Patrols. Lots of old Patrols around here, bashed up, lifted, many with hand spotties mounted on the roof, or on the exterior mirror frames, a bit of padding on the mirror frame, so as not to scratch the rifle cabinetry, and a big MF pig dog cage bolted on the back.
To your correspondent, my advice is go buy yourself anything else not nissan, and let your stinkin Patrol ‘trickle down’ to the pig huntin with huge cross bred dogs market, where all Patrols go to die.
Yep, I got out of a Corolla 15 minutes ago with paint peeling off the roof everywhere (fleet car).
I love your bangle😊
Paracord forevah!...
Plenty of other brands have paint peeling problems as well.
Under warranty?
Tell me you're a Nissan fanboy without telling me you're a Nissan fanboy.
@@TheKnobCalledTone. Not after 2004. The Jax cvt , but the 240K,s (5) cheap but the head gaskets, 1978 skyline coupe, built like a tank.
Sometimes...........like this video............JC is excellent.
Nice shirt
You are Correct and Nissan should have to replace the Vehicle as if it is painted a Third Time the Quality is Uncertain..Anyway Nissan has always been Shit with Warranty I am a Mechanic and have seen some strange and Dishonest Repairs for Warranty by Many Dealership's and Nissan. My Neighbour has a Nissan Navara Dual Cab Deisel. At 131,000kms it had a Faulty Thermostat resulting in a Cylinder Head + Gasket Failure. Nissan Would not Warranty it as it had past the 130,000 kms Warranty or 3 years, it was 34 months old..At a Cost of $7,000.00 as they had to replace the Injectors as well, Nissan claimed were Faulty. I believe it was Disgusting of Nissan and they were prepared to fight it in Court except my Neighbour paid up as he needed his work Truck every day and he wasn't prepared to take Nissan to Court without a Vehicle for years..Anyway let me say that Nissan Australia's Performance was Shocking..I have also seen Mitsubishi Vehicle's using oil and the Owners leaving the Car at the Dealership for a week and then told it is now fixed and it had only been overfilled by 1.5 litres of oil and the Customer's were told not to check the Oil and return the Vehicle in 6 weeks for Re Evaluation...Surprise, Surprise it appears to be Full. Job well done Mitsubishi...This happens more often than you think. Check out a Used Car and it has the Books Freshly Stamped for Service recently showing it has been Serviced and Fully Checked by their 100+ Pre Sale Checkups, Only to find Bald tyres painted shiny Black with matching Engine Oil that hasn't been changed...My Advice is Read your Service Books and Purchase your own Quality Oils and appropriate products and have a Mobile Mechanic come and do your Services and Repairs..Big Savings and great Quality of Work that you can see how long it takes to Carry Out..Regards Phillip
NASA testing found that standard spring washers are no better than a flat washer in terms of stopping the nut coming undone.
Got a link?
Source please.
NASA Reference Publication 1228 (1990) “Fastener Design Manual”
@@sheerluckholmes5468 thanks buddy a very interesting read if you are of an engineering leaning, page 9 for anyone just wanting to find out about washers.
Seems like it's becoming a common problem with several manufacturers having issuse.
Looks like the only tool on the bench that looks likes its ever been use is the hammer 😜
The shifter is understandable, there is a Knipex Pliers Wrench there to use instead, why it looks unused though is suspicious, mine were significantly less red after a week.
they are called props !
All too clean
Probably someone was wearing very strong cologne in the paint room that day!
Dealship should of sent the car back when they noticed the paint was bubbling or pealing.
How the f...k after all these years of car manufacting and advances in tchnology does paint peel off of a new car?
I don't know about there, but here in America the EPA is the problem. My dad has a 1942 Studebaker Dictator that has never been repainted and still looks good after 80 years. The EPA changes paint requirements every few years trying to be more "green" meaning we are always in a testing phase instead of using what has worked for a century.
@@Noah_E spot on same here.
That is a huge font that you are using. It takes you 3 sheets of paper to print a short email.
count in binary :)
What's with the 'Nee-san' pronunciation, John?
So the "mericans" can understand him?
What if the paint around my tow ball is chipping off? Should I sue them?
John, I'll send you a Christmas card.🎄
Nissan couldn't organise a root in a brothel
Or a CVT on a Pathfinder.....Oh...wait....
They're probably taking notes from Honda.
So John can you come to the rescue i and a friend are in deep shit.
Sorry, i will be using the French here and there as words fail me too.
So friend had a car accident with her MG car. She was at fault.
Car is less than 2 years and is on comprensive car insurance with Allianz.
We been told the repair of the car is going to take 3 to 6 months as there are no part in Australia to repair the car.
The car is at a repair shop as i generate this comment until repairs are done.
We attempted to argue the major problem as a result of the accident and asked for a full refund.
The insurer is digging their heels in the sand and retorted that we are not entitled to a full refund as this is not covered under the insurance.
We are thinking of contacting MG directly and ask for a refund or replacement vehicle.
Do you think we are on the right direction to pursue this with MG directly?
Would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks.
T.
My experience is that Allianz suck. Maybe, John Cardigan, time for a deep dive on the automotive Insurance industry ?
Is this subject up your alley ?
Nothing to do with MG. It's an accident not a manufacturing fault. Your dispute is with the insurer. If they're messing you about see an insurance lawyer.
What planet do you live on if you think the car manufacturer is even the slightest bit responsible for a car you crashed just because you underinsured it? This is an insurance issue plain and simple. If you cannot be without a vehicle, dont skimp on your insurance, make sure you have unlimited hire car. If you dont then you just have to wear it, it is no ones responsiblity but your own (unless, contrary to what you stated, the accident was due to a major mechanical fault of the vehicle in which case the right lawyer may make a case work).
@@dougstubbs9637 Before or after he does the vid on ceramic versus steel bearings ?
It's not MG's problem. It's Allianz's problem. Talk to a lawyer and find out what you can do (if anything) to either hurry Allianz along, or to arrange some other kind of solution whilst the car is being fixed e.g. a no cost or heavily subsidised hire car.
My old 2007 D40 had peeling paint that I had big fight with them before they offered to pay 50% of the repair. Was still going to cost me $4.5k because the problem was the primer under the paint and was going to have to be completely stripped. Told them to shove it and got a mate to patch it up enough stop it spreading for a few years.
Can't believe or maybe I can with how shit they are that they STILL haven't solved the paint problem. Never will by a Nissan again. I hope they don't cause problems for the new Triton and Mitsubishi doesn't get the Nissan stank.
Slightly off topic i know, but... What are those black things in the red and grey wall mounted containers on the wall over your left shoulder and behind you?
They're mill bed clamps. They hold the workpiece down when machining.
@@7immmmy Thanks. I didn't recognise them. Been a long time since i've used them on the pillar drill.
Consumer protection WA got us full refund on a Hyundai Kona that
Wobbled . No solicitor needed
Id say the only reason we have good legislation in this case is so the government can say that the consumer has protection. As you say John, pretty pointless unless the body in charge gets off the backsides and does something constructive, like say....prosecute the manufacturers. Youd figure it would be an easy case to prove considering how many disgruntled car buyers (with legitimate grievances) there are.
To this motoring journalist ace
Poor grammar is such a disgrace
He also gets mad
When spelling is bad
Or when comma's aren't put in their place
"Commas".....plural of "comma".....but you knew that....right?
You are a poet, and we didn’t know it.
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq It looked like a deliberate error to me, to provoke the Punctuation Police. It worked.
@@rais1953
Fair cop guv....can I have a smoke?
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq :-)
Nissan had shit paint way back to GQ Patrol circa 1988
The dealer & the manufacturer are betting they can get away with fobbing their customers off. The ACCC didn't put their bet in cause they were asleep. The only "fly in the ointment" is being publicly called out by someone like you, John. I hope you feel ashamed of yourself!
A full vinyl wrap might be a great solution to this problem if no refund. I wouldn't dare let them paint it again 🤦
That's not a permanent fix though - they only last ~5 years. And you know the paint is peeling off with the wrap once you're done.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the ACCC doesn't do much enforcement, and I don't think that is by choice of ACCC. If you need a hint, look at what happened to NSW ICAC.
What are you talking about?
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t Watch the video. He talks about ACCC policing of car warranties.
@@richardpowell1425 no, the NSW ICAC bit
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t The head losing their job after too much success cracking down on corrupt politicians.
@@richardpowell1425 NSW ICAC is independent. Cracking down on corrupt politicians has no sway on the tenure of senior ICAC staff
One of your openender rings is up side down!!!
It was an OCD test...
@@AutoExpertJC So did I pass or fail?
@@AutoExpertJC As for judging a man by how beat up his tools are...
Ok a little different to spanners but over the year I've acquired a fair amount of metrology gear. As I only work in my shed these days some of it would be lucky to be used once a year, so it should be clapped out about the same time as the heat death of the universe. But boy it can be handy now and then.
Nissans, Hondas, LDV,s , Hyundai the paint on these vehicles is just dreadful OEM’s cheap out on the paint especially the zinc anti corrosion protection it’s just not good enough for what the consumer is paying for. Hell, they’re adding on average about $2000 extra to the average car now but are always finding ways to lower the build costs of them hence they find cheaper paint brands as paint suppliers and that’s where it all goes wrong.
I know you cop shit for saying good things about KIA but, true story:
BiL has 2018 Stinger GT in yellow. In 2019 he's contacted by KIA advising his paint is defective and to contact his dealer. He hadn't realised there was a problem. Long story short. KIA took his car and provided him with a Stinger GT replacement. Hi car was returned to S. Korea disassembled and completely repainted. Returned 3 months later.
Nissan is 43% owned by Renault. So he bought into Renault bean counter quality. I wonder what else is going to fall apart in that vehicle.
Best to opt for the refund, as the 'replacement' would probably have the same shit paint!
But Australians keep buying these overpriced models, that’s why dealers don’t give two stuffs , you can’t bust the dealers if consumers keep lining up for the big screw and paying for it with big bucks. It’s like whinging about politicians, the public through their genuine lack of care and apathetic approach, wonder why nothing changes. I guess you can’t legislate against stupidity. Argh Australia home of the free land of the apathetic.
I don't want to see that machine gun
Replace with another car with factory faulty paint? I'll go for the refund thank you.
on behalf of fools, good job
A few days after the warranty expired my car dealer fixed a fault (wipermotor - and the only fault in 11 years) for free, he's a good one and I would by his shitbrand (Fiat) again.
The voice!! Dead
Being an Ex panel beater a expert quality paint job needs to come back to bare metal especially if the original paint was flaking off, A shit substrate gets a shit paint job, and a bare metal spray job on a Patrol I imagine would cost $30k.
Ps Nissans suck balls.
Back to back John? Don't work to hard mate.
10k$/video?
*too
It’s taken him 5 wives, to realise what gets his jollies off.
Now do suzuki and I'll send you a Christmas card 🎄