Power Macintosh G3 (Blue and White) (ft. It's My Natural Colour) - Vintage Apple Vault #4
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2019
- The Power Macintosh G3 (Blue and White) was another pivotal piece of Apple's new product strategy. It helped push many new features to the market, and it changed digital video production forever…
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The production quality is off the charts! Excited to see where this series goes. Thanks for having me on board Ken!
And thank YOU for being in it : )
And still showing in my recommended almost 2 years later
Hey mjd
Well you're in the video for sure
Cannot believe you got your Blue & White, a Quicksilver, and a G5 for $60. Talk about right place, right time.
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Good old times weren't they
And still showing in my recommended almost 2 years later
Thanks Ken for featuring Steve from @Mac84 and me in today's video! See you on Mac Yak tonight at 8PM EST bud :D
BTW since this video I upgraded my CPU again to a Sonnet G4 550MHz... it's fun ;)
Back in 2003 I edited a skateboarding video of me and my friends on a PC with footage shot on a Canon ZR45MC miniDV camcorder. I had to learn from scratch how to get the video from the camcorder onto the hard drive. I looked up what IEEE 1394 was and had to go get a card to install on my eMachines PC. I used Microsoft Movie Maker in XP to edit and then render it. I have no disc or file of the finished video, which was ~25 mins, but my friend Jesse’s segment is on RUclips still.
This channel success is amazing. The content deserves more subscribers, however for how fast you grew, it's just pure amazing. Congratulations on the success Computer Clan.
Ken, I absolutely adored the Platinum SFX used with the little bubbles of information.
The emotion that you transmit when speaking is the same emotion that we all feel that we collect these incredible computers. Thank you very much for making this video! Greetings from Argentina!
Great Video and looking forward to seeing you on Mac Yak tonight!
The thing that was funny about the original iMac, is that it had USB ports. Mind you, the Compaq Presario I had in 1996 also had USB ports, but at the time, very little accessories took advantage of them, from my Zip drive through my scanner and printer, almost all of the accessories shy of game controllers either relied on parallel or serial ports. Keyboards and mice were still using the old tried and true PS2 ports. But those two USB ports on the PC? Like teats on a steer.
But then the iMac was released, and suddenly bam, USB everything started hitting the market. After almost a good 2 years of waiting. Of course, the Presario was already obsolete by that time, so the USB ports went unused, unwanted, and probably already obsolete by then.
While working at an ad agency in the 1990s, I remember the new Macs we got throughout the years. I distinctly remember the IT guy bringing the blue & white G3 into the design department, putting it onto the work island in the middle of the room, and showing how it opened up. I loved the design. I also realized how much of a pain in the ass my beige G3 now was to open compared to the B&W G3. I ended up waiting until the Quicksilver G4 to come out before I upgraded, which also shared the same flip-down access design. Such great machines. Thank you for a great video and I loved the input from the other guys as well.
Awesome to see the Computer Clan, My Natural Colour and Micheal MJD all working on a video together! I love these RUclipsrs, and I hope they can work together again. (yes, I know I'm 2 years late.)
I had one of these new in 1999 and I loved it. The original iMac was a decent computer but this thing was just amazing for graphics work, it was the best pro machine Apple has designed in years. I still have mine and it still works a treat in 2021. Firewire was such a big deal.
I have always loved the design of G3, I have never been able to track one down though, it is the design of this thing that I really, really do like
not a fan of the idiom, but its impressive how well the plastics have held up on these twenty years later
The first Mac I've ever used. I'm not kidding. I've found one at a thrift store over a decade ago. I've brought it home and powered it on and Mac OS X booted... into safe mode, and it never booted again, no matter what I tried. While that was a disappointment, that did set me down the path of exploring Macs from this era, especially as that thrift store also had some other old Macs too, including one of my favorites in my collection, an early Revision B iMac G3.
So, thank you Power Mac G3 B&W. Sure, you've crapped out when I tried to use you, but you helped me get into old Macs.
This brings back memories ... I loved my blue and white thanks for this trip down memory lane
I'm watching this with teary eyes. I used to have one of these beauties (the 400Mhz model with zip drive) and loved it! Bought it in 1999. Then 2006 came and got a G5 tower. Since I had to move and didn't have room to keep it, I gave the G3 away. I never forgave myself for it. I wish I had kept it. I would be running Mac OS 8.6 or 9.1 natively with it. 😭
Still one of my absolute favorite Macs. I just love the design of it and I've been wanting to own one of my own for SO. LONG.
A couple of the computer labs at my high school had those babies. They were still running Mac OS 9 (I think) as late as 2006 (the year I graduated).
Thank you so much for this video! i know i am not the only classic mac freak and user but this brought it home!,hope you guys will do this treatment with the G4!
I am glad that I finally got the G3 Tower, and loaded with the Spanish Version of MS Word Si. Love it.... In which that the G3 has dual OS 9.8, and 10.5
This is without any question, my favorite apple tower computer system. I used to go sleep at night and dream of having a top of the line Blue and White G3 Tower matched with its 19/20 inch Blue and White flat panel display (the 15 inch model display, just always appeared to be a little to small). Back during this time, I did not even know what was the difference between USB 1.1 and Firewire 400 ports.
Great video Ken and great quality. Thumbs up.
Yes!
I've been waiting for this, Thanks Ken :D
Wait for a group of 9 year olds to reply with "Omg kxsign i love your music"
@@MiroslavRD lmaooo right?
Got one of these under my desk right now, about time it got more love
I was in a media tech class in High School, and they still had old video editing stuff like a Commodore Amiga with Video Toaster and a dedicated video editing computer called Casablanca. At the end of the semester, they got a mac with Final Cut Pro (this was 2001). I think the whole classroom had only one digital camera with Firewire support (we were still mostly using SVHS cameras).
I had one of those. It was 400 MHz stock and came with a Rage 128. I gradually upgraded it with a Radeon 7000 and a G4 CPU upgrade. I took it to college with me and had some great times playing Unreal Tournament on the LAN in my dorm. I absolutely love the case design, and it was a real powerhouse of a system for its time as well.
I bought a G4 733 MHz upgrade for mine as well, which turned out to be a mistake. The machine definitely was a whole lot faster, but as I later found out, there were higher clocked G3 accelerators in the 1-1.2 GHz range that far outpaced my G4 for the same price. Also, the motorola chipset on the B&W G3 had a bug which only allowed G4 processors to run a 66 MHz front side bus, down from the native 100 MHz bus of the G3 and 133 MHz bus of the G4. This really crippled the performance of the G4 upgrade and made it a whole lot slower than a real G4 Powermac at the same speed.
The G3 and G4 had similar performance at the same clock speed, the only difference is the G4 had an altivec unit. Unless you had applications that utilized altivec (mostly audio/video encoders) then it was pointless to go with a G4. Hindsight is 20/20, but such accelerators are rare today and I'm lucky to have one.
The best video card a G3 can use is a Radeon 9200 or Geforce FX 5500, modified PPC ROMs can be grabbed from Mac Elite and flashed at your own risk.
I have just a beige g3 desktop, however it also has a very satisfying feeling when upgrading components and software. Currently running a 266 with very slight overclock and nice scsi drives using the internal controller. Seems decent enough for classic OS.
As for "first computer with built-in FireWire," Sony beat them to market by a month or two, but using the slower 200 Mbps version. (The first release of IEEE1394 supported 100, 200, and 400 Mbps rates. The early add-in cards generally only supported 100 and 200 Mbps.) Sony released a system marketed as a video editing station whose exact name escapes me (Probably PCG- and a few random numbers) that had a 4-pin "i.Link S100" port. Note that even 100 Mbps is fast enough for the original standard-definition DV protocol, which tops out at 25 Mbps. (Later variants went as high as 100 Mbps, but the high-definition HDV dropped the maximum down to 25 Mbps as it added video compression to the standard.)
I remember working for a place that bought the Sony, only to trade up to the G3 on its release.
Anonymous Freak jesus well done
knowing you're probably right on that name
you had a look at Sonys new wireless earbuds yeah the Sony WH3456Z Wifi BT
"whose exact name escapes me" VAIO?
USB, DVD, lots of RAM, ROM, the graphical user interface's stunning "Aqua Interface" was fabulous! A "clicky" keyboard, a comfortable mouse, what a great deal! Thanks to Philip Ruderman's reference(STCC) and Mass Rehab, I had my first Mac. I loved it! Heavy and fast, such a lovely GUI, I am an acronym queen. Now that Apple is at Holyoke Mall, Best Buy, for peripherals, Mac and electronics heaven. Add in a Food court, Waldenbooks/Borders. And Steiger's, Friendly's, a shopper's addiction. USB made life easy. Each mall in this area had a Sears, JC Penney, Radio Shack and toy stores. A whole afternoon in climate-controlled comfort, with music. Barry White's "Love's Theme", David Soul's(Tony Macaulay's) "Don't Give Up On Us" and Captain and Tennille, in the 1970s musical lore, Movie theaters, restaurants, a whole day's entertainment, socializing and convenience, excellent!
I bought a G5, 2008, 17" Tiger OS. I am a nerd, but do not get into the guts of the beast. An iPad, both eBay. All retro glory!
man rarely do I consider case aesthetics when it comes to hardware but it is a major point of the hardware here, it really is. The build quality, the ruggedness it is just such a cool looking machine. Serviceable and everything.
Hi Ken, I owned a blue and white G3, 350 model for quite a number of years before selling it. It was my favorite mac, over a 68K Macintosh. I used it with Mac OS 8.6 (which it came with) through Mac OS X Tiger. I was able to upgrade the optical drive to a DVD-ROM drive, but back then Apple had a hit and miss drive compatibility list. I was able to get a Lite ON drive that was both bootable, and compatible with Apple DVD player. I never was able to get an internal writer to work though, for the same reasons of compatibility. Apple had a limited list of natively supported drives.
Either way great video. This is the kind of Apple stuff I love to see. Well, any legacy computer topics. Not just apple. Loved the video, have a great day!
Sweet video!! Thanks Ken for allowing me to geek out about one of the coolest Macs ever. :D
It was a pleasure.
Great video guys! I really love tech history! Continue with this great job! Thank you!
Thank you. We will ; )
I worked for Apple for 8 years, thanks for the walk down memory lane!
Fantastic episode! I am excited for episode 6 especially (iMac g4). I have an iMac G4 myself, I’ve had it since 2002 brand new, it works like a charm. Definitely the best looking Mac in my opinion. Looking forward to future episodes. :)
Joel Allen I broght one in Peckham and it still has the platsic protection around the metal neck since 2002.
Pye Ltd. Oh wow. They’re beautiful machines, I’ll hold onto mine for as long as I can. It’s great yours sounds in good condition.
My G4, looked the same, cool! A Zip Drive. A DVD/Quick Time and other goodies. Apple Addiction for sure!
Fun fact about this PowerMac G3, if you turn the machine 90 degrees to the left, you can see something funny in the G3 naming, i don't know if this is intentional, but its so funny! When i first saw the brochure of it, my dad wanted a new mac and whas thinking about the tower or the laptop, he got the powerbook g3 pismo, which i own now, i pointed it out and we were laughing so hard! Good times, and once you see it, its hard to "unsee" it :p The Mouse if you understand what i mean ;) And i found this machine at the local recycling center where i used to live, i asked for it and the dude said "take it man", and it whas only when i brought it home and took a good look at it, that i saw this "Powered By Sonnet" sticker on it, it had a freakin' powerpc g4 400mhz in it, which i whas thrilled about! The one thing that's wrong with my machine, is that 1 of the handles broke off and that its missing all of its hard drive caddy's. I hope to restore this machine 1 day if i can find a cheap one some day
Awesome vid. I actually have a G3 stored in my greenhouse. After watching, I think I'll go dig it out.
Can't believe You've done a collab with IMNC!
Tudor Gruian me to!
@@RaygunRonald no he's not, what makes you think that...?
wow that's a nice G3 upgraded Tom has, such a sweet setup :)
I remember that one :) I had Amiga 1200 with MC68040/40Mhz and saw this G3 on one of expos. Damn! This was so fast
I had this computer in 1999 and next to this computer I had a hard HDD case filled with SCSI drives. This case was as grey as all the computers from that time. I had a visitor in my room and he asked what that beautiful case was next to my computer.
He was amazed when I showed him that it was the computer.
Nice to see IMNC!
2:18 damn near made me cry the first time I saw that. I had already been messing with PC cases and they were ALL total ass. Here is this (relatively until the Bondi Blue was gone) sexy case you could open with one finger with it STILL ON and have access to everything you needed. This is one of the top ten computer cases ever built. It would be a little higher if it had the 2 5.25 bays like the MDDs.
I love you CC,i waited for this so long and there it is,i am really happy,keep that work and this video is face reveal
We've seen kens face before
What great video man, I wish I could give it another like
Modded the crap out of mine. 1.2 or 1ghz (can't remember) G3 Sonnet upgrade, 1gb ram, flashed Nvidia 6200 pci 256mb, usb 2.0 pci card, bluetooth 2.0 USB adapter, apple airport and 10.4
It ran Halo full res no lag options turned up.
Halo Beta
@@pyeltd.5457 No, Halo FULL RETAIL
I just recently found your channel and I'm sorry this is probably so late you'll never see it, but you never know :)
I remember seeing a few of these things in my middle school for graphic design. Only a few students got to use them. It was one of the few times I used a Mac in my life tbh.
I came from Bremerton Washington, right across the bay from Seattle. So when I was growing up schools used windows 95 and on I think. I remember helping them install it as a kid. Shoot, I've seen more typewriters than macs and I'm not really that much older than you.
Back to the point, the thing was faster than most pc's I'd used. I was quite surprised even the one you did an episode of the eMachines copied was fast. Sorry I really don't know the names.
I always wondered about firewire and how Macs were better at video editing at such a fundamental level and thank you for such a wonderful explanation. I remember Windows programs in the early 2000s and they were really not that great or the systems trying to render just not good enough for it to be efficient. My friend took days trying to make a cut of Aliens set to heavy metal.
I know its three years late but I'm glad I found such a great video. Thanks Ken!
This was a great computer, spec wise and... it’s really pretty
I Love your videos, you mentions suggestions, I notice you have only G4 stuff on the cube, when the G4 line had such a long life and 4-5 variants I think it would be interesting if you covered the power mac G4 era and all of its generations.
Love this channel
Would like to see the Mac mini covered, both the G4 and early Intel variants. Original iMac as well.
My dad has one of those in cold storage. I'm thinking about starting it up at some point and looking at it.
I have one of these myself they are were ahead of their time for sure 😎
Excellent video.
In 2014 I got 3 powermac G5's (A duel 2.3ghz, a signal 2.0ghz, and a signal 1.8ghz) along with a 20" studio display with DVI to ADC adapter for $100
i love this era of apple, blending form and function quite well, Shame its no longer the case.
And awesome aesthetic completed the picture!
I dunno if the 2019 mac pro existed when you made the comment but that might be the only thing that's form and function together, but it's super expensive. Even if you account for inflation over the last twenty years.
24:12 that ribbon dot matrix cartridge on the right there looks suspiciously like the one LGR just used in his color dot matrix printer video...
Love these videos
Nice two of my Favorite you tubers in one place
I used to have one of these 10 years ago. As a 9 year old Apple fanboy kid it was so much fun.
Dude i really love apples unibody design but i must say the g3 and its monitor look amazing
One of my favorites of yours.
Yessssssss. So excited!
I had a G4 and Final Cut 2. Dem were the days!
I had the G4, same colors, great DVD, Cinema Monitor, Harmon Kardon speakers, yes, the "Cheesegrater" version. OS X "Aqua Interface"
Love Your Vids! Excited For This One (; :D
Been watching your videos since late 2012 early 2013 you have the best videos ever keep it going
Thank you : )
@@ComputerClan you are welcome :)
Love Apple’s whimsical design of that era
My G3 was an odd one. It came packaged as an edit machine with Radius Edit DV, but also with the Radius capture board, so it had 4 Firewire inputs. I stuck with Edit DV, which kinda worked.
Great presentation
Great video, introduced me to some new YT channels I will be definitely be checking out!
Thanks for watching : )
I sae one of these yesterday in my college that they were throwing out... Needless to say it's now set up in my room
Yes! Vintage Apple Vault!
I have both a Quicksilver dual 1ghz and a Sawtooth 733. Both of course are G4s but same basic form factor and they still work beautifully. Near 20 years old the Digital audio runs Mac OS like a champ. I keep around a 7600 (with an old world rom) too for BeOS and Mac OS 7.6.1 compatibility and that has a Sonnet g3 upgrade card. I think 433 mhz? She's pretty quick anyway. It's geek, we're geeks. Nothing wrong with geeks!
Well... Subscribed :D Great video, cant wait to see more.
Thank you : ) So far, we have 5 other Apple Vault episodes. I think you'll love them! And soon, we might have… one more thing… ; )
Great video. Subscribed
Awesome. Thank you. More to come...
I remeber this era I had one (g4) I painted black and red and it was dual 466mhz ppc with 1024MB of sdram, had three addon firewire card to use to push images of a firewire based network to the white mac books as gigabit was not available for the mac laptops it was crazy. Also my mom video camera from jvc actual would allow better transfer and capture only through firewire instead of usb.
I'd love one of these beasts in one of the alternate iMac colors. Sad they didn't extend that sweet, sweet personalizaton to the big boy model.
Tiger was my first Mac OS I still love it.
Excellent!!!
I want one so bad! As a fan of old “obsolete” hardware I want as many old macs as I can get
Have one
I bought my brother into the Apple ecosystem for $99, back in 2005, with this very Mac. Boy was I jealous. My next computer had to be a Mac, and I never turned back.
Before Firewire we used Truevision Targa cards for video capture - which cost more than a couple of PowerMacs!
A Quadra 840AV for $5! Dang. That and the Quadra 650 were my favorite System 7 machines back in the day. I’d buy that 840AV so fast and leave a $20 tip!
Great video. I'd be more than interested to see an video on the unibody macbook pro. It is almost 10 years old after all.
Thanks. Which unibody MacBook Pro do you speak of? There's loads of 'em.
The G4 with the "Cheese Grater" tower, the cool screen, and OS X! Awesome! 2001 was cool
great video, great content!
Thank you : )
I love IMNC!
That G3 Tom has is a beauty. I need to know what his IDE and SATA cards are so I can get my Sawtooth past the 128gb drive barrier someday.
I had one of these, but it was sadly killed by a power surge. Honestly, as great as the new Mac Pro is, this is what I wanted - a tower that was user serviceable, expandable, with internal storage - but about half the cost.
Still Using a Beige PowerPC G3 tower as a gateway for my Apple IIgs Via AppleTalk.
I use my friend's first Mac, he gave me great deal, I bought a g5 from eBay and an iPad. My first Mac, an SE, running 7.5, was my entree into the Mac universe. STCC added to my Mac education, was crucial, I love Macs! Retro Macs!!
I love the B&W G3. A few more things about it: if you upgrade the CPU with any G3 or 500MHz or slower G4, the bus clock can stay at 100MHz but if you go to one of the faster G4s (>600MHz) you have to clock the bus down to 66MHz, which is a little disappointing; the onboard UltraATA controller was bugged but OS X gets around the problem by disabling UDMA which means the drive is stuck at PIO 4 (16.7MB/s) instead of the faster DMA-based 33 or 66MB/s modes, severely degrading drive performance but preventing the corruption problems; these (and the similar Yikes! G4) have one of my favorite features: there are a number of diagnostic LEDs scattered around the board, including one near the CPU that shows CPU activity, with the LED changing in intensity depending on how much work the processor is doing at the time (and also to help determine if it's hanging or crashed).
Still have mine!
I got my PowerMac G3 for 40$ and it had a 400Mhz G3 384 MB ram and everything else was original, 10gb hdd no zip drive and a cd, i have the first revision.
I have got a Powermac G3 B&W from a friend for free. I've insisted to pay him but he has never collected the money from me. I'm going to pick up another one tomorrow if i'm lucky enough. Love this machine for it's nostalgic quality. Might be doing some of the upgrade mods later on which I have a spare unit.
today i found one in the thrash , looks nice
i love this video! You just earned a subscriber xD
Thank you ^^ I hope you like all the other episodes of this show.
@@ComputerClan im in sweden and it's like 4:30 in the middle of the night so im really tired, but tomarrow i definitively with watch the other episodes, thank you for the information in these videos btw, very good quality!
just got rid of my molar and my powerpc 98 model. still have my g3 and g4, but my baby is my g5 duel core with 3gigs ram at the moment. It can run any thing made for ppc at max. i have 2 graphics cards the 128 it came with as well as a 256 ragepro with svideo out for my vintage 1988 rca wood grain tv. i scaled down my collection. recently to move....i do not want to upgrade to 10.5 or i loose native os9 support. i even got my 360 controller working on this bad boy....
I just picked up a Full function and full optioned G3. Some guy was selling it bundled with a broken G5 and a broken Mac Pro 2,1. I bought the lot for $20 Canadian only because I wanted the ram out of the broken Mac Pro.