As much as people love to bring up the Xenomorph from the Alien/AvP universes as "the perfect killer," they can't hold a candle to the Flood. They have fallbacks for every possible problem, can assimilate a Gravemind from any form, and the only limit to what they can do is set by the limit of who they're consuming. The Covenant had the best possible solution which was to glass whatever planet/continent they were on, which is the only end-all for an outbreak, scorched earth. The Flood is the perfect killer in every sense of the word and it's one of my favorite Doomsday species
I don't like praising fictional characters, species, or whatever... But this is pretty much true. The flood is such a terrifying threat. And I love that bungie managed to evolve a space zombie to such an incredible deeply developed parasite with a single sequel.
Honestly the xenomorphs scare me a lot more though, I would rather fight the flood. Both could end the universe, especially if you take into account all the xeno stuff in comics
The Tyranids and the Zerg are also up there with the Flood for similar reasons, but I agree the Flood is the most dangerous due to its ability to form a Gravemind
I mean Xenomorphs weren't really designed as a galactic super threat. They come from a far more grounded scifi. If you want to compare the flood with something like the Xeno's you should go with the Tyranids from WH40K. Though to be honest, the Xeno's likely have a better chance at beating a keymind then flood has a chance against the Nids.
I think he missed out on the worst part of the flood. Once a gravemind is formed, it regains the knowledge of all previous graveminds. It can just start making ancient alien tec on a whim, recall the tactics of a trillion battle commanders. It is a true eternal hivemind. And even in death you shall forever remain a tortured soul, forever trapped as a part of it.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yea and I think the video still *understates* the power of a gravemind and by extension its evolved form keymind which is even worse by several magnitudes. So great is the threat of a keymind that once born, it effectively spells the doom of all life. Not only can it inherit knowledge and is eternal, but its computational capabilities are truly whack. I have no other way to describe it. It's like every horror stories about AI uprisings level. It's to the extent that they can overwhelm the tactical/strategical precision of highly advanced AIs designed for warfare from the Forerunners - a super duper advanced alien species whose technology made them godlike. Practically, they can predict the future with extreme accuracy after absorbing enough biomass. And I also cannot overstate how op these forerunners were. They can basically do whatever they want such as creating planets on a whim. Their tech is so strong that their auxiliary non-combat ship easily obliterates the most advanced tech that is available to the younger species of the Halo series. And the Flood defeated them. Utterly and completely to the point that a mutually assured destruction was their only solution.
In the Halo Forerunner trilogy novels, the Flood reactivate ancient Precursor technology called “Star Roads”, which are unimaginably gigantic filaments that physically connect planets across star systems. They used these things like colossal garrotes, slicing worlds in half with them. The Flood are nuts.
I don’t think there’s any evidence that the flood “produce” technology at all. Atleast not from what I’ve seen. They steal and adapt what they can, but they’re not building factories creating arms and ships. You’d think that they’re more than capable of doing so with a god like Gravemind controlling the wheel but they don’t do it.
in the halo books, the flood eventually become so powerful during their war against the forerunners the keymind gains psychic powers and is able to remove the space between two planets to allow an army of flood to jump from one world to another, so basically the flood can infect space itself at some point
Didn't they also begin to access or erode the sorta pocket spaces and metaphysical spaces that the Forerunners had access to thru the Mantle? It's been a while since I read the FS, but I seem to recall something along those lines.
Once they had access to the Domain and unlocked the precursors’ neural physics technology they were unstoppable if I remember correctly. I also think that their most dangerous feat is how numerous Flood-infested ships escaped into other dimensional pockets via slipspace. Essentially this means that literally anywhere at any point in time a Flood ship could randomly punch back into our reality and begin a new outbreak immediately. You just can’t counter something like that because you’ll never see it coming.
@@rhyderleming5851 you’re not wrong at all, however I think it was a jab at lord hood, kinda like “okay man, well if that shit spread passed where it was, it would’ve destroyed your whole species.”
As far as my knowledge goes lord hood never encountered the flood, probably read about it in files, but he’s never been face to face like most of the people present in that room. Especially Half Jaw,
@@Ntwadumela89 the fact of how intelligent the flood is, and how fast they spread, honestly you’re right lol. Actually just listened to an audiobook earlier in the halo universe, Saturn eats his sun? I think it’s called, but that was honestly scary as all hell, and it was only a half an hour lol.
Just starting this vid, but I wanna say this just in case it isn't mentioned. Graveminds and Keyminds, even when destroyed completely don't lose any of the information stored within their greater network. What that means is, you can annihilate the flood down to the base atomic level, but you can't ever STOP the flood completely. The moment a flood outbreak reaches a certain level, the Mind that commands those local flood near instantly has access to literal millions of years of experience and strategy.
I know it might seem like a minor detail but the Gravemind isn't the final evolution of the flood, the Keymind is. Which is a planet sized Gravemind that has unbelievable power and abilities. There are some Halo lore channels that touch on the topic of flood lore in depth and is actually pretty interesting.
The definition of Keymind changed slightly actually. They're more like command forms that help in coordinating the masses more efficiently like a living and also violent synapse node. The planet sized ones still exist, but the Juggernaut and Abomination are still also Keyminds.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames so... speaking of horrifying alien infections, Callisto Protocol death montages are out and the few I've seen in my playthrough are insane. Any chance we'll be seeing that soon? 😆
6:26 They actually kept the Flood samples because they feared that more Flood existed elsewhere in the universe, and felt it was better to give the galaxy whatever knowledge that could be gathered from studying said samples.
Well, after watching all your Halo gameplay and seeing that the number one cause of death for both of you (besides cliffs) was each other, I can safely and assuredly say for a fact that neither of you would survive the Floof, if only because you'll probably have killed each other long before the Floof actually become a problem! 😂 Cheers for another fun reaction!!!😁
You forgot that even if you were able to make it to some remote solar system/world where you and a handful of others might wish to live out your final days, you have to hope that nobody assimilated has knowledge of it, how to get to it, or that the soon-to-be-interstellar Flood ships can't detect it or have no interest in visiting. :)
So basically you have to be a loner that had no family or friends and never worked a job but just read a bunch of books and then burned those books so no one else could read them, check out the library card for any past readers of said book and kill them all. 🤔 ✅
And the only reason we have individuals who are resilient to the infection on the side of the humans was a fluke because of the research of Halsey who was originally looking to build super soldiers to crush rebellions, but a greater purpose for them was discovered. Spartan-1s have an actual resilience to the flood due to the augmentations, whilst Spartan-IIs and onward I don't believe have a confirmed resilience (but probably still do), but the Mjolnir armour filters out anything airborne and the shielding stops them from making contact.
Could have swore I read that the Spartan 2's bodies are too machine from the augmentations for the Flood to be able to assimilate them. I would guess that means your best bet would be going after Spartan 3s who only got chemical augmentations or the 4s who I believe had something similar as well.
As of Halo: Saturn Devouring His Son, the outbreak at forerunner research site 22 resulted in spartan fireteam leviathan being infected by flood spores, overwhelming their bio/hazmat-containment training and equipment. Corrupter protocol was enacted and all personnel was given only seven minutes to evacuate before bombardment. Several craft made it out before site 22’s destruction. However, at least one attacker form managed to board a Condor, presumably escaping the planet breaker nuke. Given Halo Infinite’s S4 armor theme, the UNSC is aware of the high possibility there is a Condor adrift in space with a Flood-Infected Spartan aboard.
One part that wasn't fully gone into with the grave minds and key minds is that all grave minds and eventual key minds know everything from every mind before it all the way to the original. It makes them way more terrifying because of the fact the second a new mind is formed it is almost infinitely more intelligent than any opponents they come against, and will use that intelligence to manipulate what are normally it's food/enemies into fighting for or even alongside the flood similar to halo 2 and 3.
Something I don’t think he remembered to state was that the flood does have the ability to infect the very existence of the universe if they grow powerful and large enough.
Wait till you find out what the Precurseors actually are. We knew about Precusor technology working on the concept that the universe is a neural network, as if the entire universe was a living entity. The precusors figured out a way to transcend to a hirer plane of existence and join that higher mind. Turns out, we were only partially right. The Precursors, the Flood and the Universe was infact the entire same entity. but like matter has different states (solid, liquid and gas), THe Universe has it's 3 forms too: -The Neural Network (The living universe) -The Precusors (The sheperds/Matle holders) -The Flood (The way the universe digest life) THe universe becomes precusors inorder to travel the univers and create life. Those liforms are the sheep and the Precusors are the shepards (hence the mantle of respibility) These life fomrs are meant to flourish and have good and bad expereinces. Emotions are like a sweetness to hte universe and the universe wants those experiences. Then wehn enough life is in the niverse, The precusors goes into their Flood form, to digest us and all ourcollective emotions and experiences, even our ancestors through genetic memory. When the flood has eaten enough they transcent back into the Neural netowrk to enrich the universe. So we are living in the thing that eats us inother words, we are the way the universe gets to know itself.
May have seen me pop up here and there in comments, but I absolutely love Halo and all the lore in it! Excited to see what else you react to and your playthrough of ODST if you do so! My favorite game in the series by far.
The Flood are basically the zerg from Starcraft on ecstasy, steroids, and bath salts. Mind you, The Flood would destroy The Zerg, since they can infect any lifeform and while the zerg evolve by consuming biomass, the flood could easily turn that against them since they could infect other zerg where as zerg could not infect flood creatures. A pair of videos I'd suggest to check out is one where you have The Flood vs The Necromorphs of Deadspace; RoanokeGaming made his case for the Necromorphs while HiddenXperia made his for The Flood; that is one was knowledgeable on The Flood and the other on The Necromorphs. The conclusion was mostly up for the viewer to decide. Both are terrifying and could easily wipe out humanity and are very malevolent entities to any living entity, be it human, animal, or alien. The Flood would in most scenarios win, imo, but there is some conditions that would give the necromorphs the advantage. I so reccommend watching both videos and figuring out which would win.
How about Flood vs Tyranids from WH40K? Zerg were originally supposed to be Tyranids, as StarCraft was originally meant to be a Warhammer 40k video game, but Blizzard lost the rights and turned it into its own IP. Terrans are Terrans, Zerg are Tyranids, Protoss are Eldar. However with things like genestealers idk, it's probably more of a similar situation with the Zerg where Flood would just take them all over and become an even more terrifying amalgamation of swarm hivemind monstrosities.
@@KillerChickn Tyranids are very much akin to Zerg and since Tyranids and Flood use weapons, they'd go together like Jelly on butter. The Flood are just disturbingly powerful and terrifying.
Funfact. There's two cases of Flood cults. 1 being ancient humanity and the prophets being infected with a first case of the flood infection. It was a cannibal cult too. 2 one was a extremist cult of the covenant that made the rest of the covenant look like athiest. They consider every forerunner artifact, structure or anything, sacrosanct. The problem was that they considered the flood a blessing of the forerunners. And one commanded a ship an ordered his crew to let the flood onto his vessel. Luckily he's dead, replaced by the Elite that killed him, with no complaints from the other crew members.
5:15 missing out on some stuff the flood infected a forerunner world and ancient humanity noticed and wiped it out without saying anythjng to the forerunners in general because the humans were too afraid because they know how fast the flood spread, but ofcourse the forerunners had no idea that humanity was running from the flood in general and thought the purification of the forerunner world as a hostile act instead of a saving one
he's like the hyper chihuahua and she is like the cat that makes eye contact with you as she slowly pushes the glass off the coffee table thats what i was thinking at the beginning of the video : )
Always entertaining watching people who only play the Halo games and not look into the expanded universe listen to stories about the Flood and see the smiles turn into looks of disgust and horror.
They forgot the fact that Johnson is immune to the flood somehow(Johnson as in first generation spartans). I’m assuming he’s also not the only one. The UNSC also has a protocol in case a spartan gets infected by the flood which would immediately nuke the area. Not a single spartan has been infected so we don’t know what that’s like.
So, as the video said, there used to be ancient Humans along with the Forerunners, both created by the Precursors. The last precursor was captured by the Forerunners in a time lock vault, one we see in Halo: Infinite. When interrogated, it revealed the true nature of the universe, and it was so shocking to those who heard it, many committed suicide immediately because of the revelation. The Precursor revealed that their mastery of reality had led to development of neural physics, a way to tap into the consciousness of all reality. And they found out that reality wants life to exist everywhere. This is the truth of the Mantle of Responsibility that the Precursors upheld. The universe does not discern between good or bad things. Hate, love, hope, despair. It is all "sweetness" to the universe. So the Mantle is meant to spread life everywhere just so that the universal consciousness of creation can keep experiencing the sweetness of all the good AND bad things that happen to living beings. The neural (brain) physics of sentient and sapient beings living and dying, loving and suffering, is but a sweet food for the universe and that is the only truth and meaning to existence. Obviously finding out this revelation is soul shattering to any being who might believe in a higher power that wants good things for living beings and existence, because it also wants bad things for us all too. Also, the Precursors were able to tap into alternate realities and drain the energies from them for their own use. Crazy stuff.
@@KillerChickn i remember the Precursor, but I don't remember that the truth of the universe was explained, only the part where it was so overwhelming that it caused the people to kill themselves and eventually the Precursor. I'll have to go back and find that chapter.
I hate to take Ken's side with the scenario given at the end of the video (because it's bleak), but I feel he's right. Even if humanity knew of another planet we could escape to, and we somehow managed to flee to it without carrying the infection there ourselves? The Flood would have learned about it's existence by assimilating the rest of our population. If there were such a world then I can only assume that would be the very next stop on the Flood's interstellar invasion. All that said, I loved the reaction!
Please react to a video called '' there will never be another melee player like hungrybox '' it's a little outside your wheelhouse but it's so good that I can imagine you becoming instant fans after watching it . Where the videos you usually react to get you to connect with games this one will get you to connect with the players. The people actually playing those games
The original source of the video called the infection forms spores but they are two different things. Flood spores are like floating clumps of cells. They even showed a spore in the video lol
I really hope you guys look up some HiddenXperia's videos on halo lore...imo, his editing and general tone when he is telling us about the lore of halo is mysterious and tense!
Here's a chaotic solution if I give up, which will be directly at the start, I'm donating my everything to a hospital, organs, brain, bones, everything.
One thing I haven’t seen someone say or the video didn’t say but there are some people immune to the flood well not immune but are seen as not able to be taken over. Sgt. Johnson from the original game is one of the people that are immune.
This is why there was protocol that states if a Spartan was taken over by flood then there was to be nukes and mac immediately launched at the locations as they would learn how to augment to be stronger then Spartans and become basically unkillable
I've been a Halo fan since late middle school. 'Twas today I learned that a Flood infestation is SO MUCH HORRIFICALLY WORSE than I thought. If we have a Flood infestation, I'm dousing myself in gasolene, pulling the pin on a grenade, and jumping into a vat of napalm. That is a WHOLE bunch of nope to the billionth power. And now I'm gonna go watch someone play through Halo 2 for some reason. 😂
The last evolution of the Gravemind is the Keymind. Which is a Gravemind that can cover multiple planets and are known to open rifts in space to travel faster than the forerunners could move to defend planets that are defenseless which was one of the main reasons the forerunners lost. The other reasons they lost were because they failed to contain it much like the old humans and prophets 10,000 years early during the human-forerunner war, and failed to quarantine there people resulting in widespread infection of entire planets and the near extinction of the forerunners and all other sentient life. Also if the forerunners handled the outbreak like the humans and covenant did during the Human-Covenant war they would have beat the flood, because their were many outbreaks of the flood caused by Humans and the Covenant that were contained and destroyed in days resulting in destruction of entire planets and solar systems. An example of an outbreak that was successfully destroyed by the Humans and Elites was in Africa they glassed half of Africa, then the UNSC sent in their own ships and bombed half of Africa after it was glassed, then sent in troops after that to wipe out the surviving flood.
Omg f that movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers ughh gets under my skin. You guys should react to Hidden Xperia he goes into much depth of the food and has a video called the 3 creepiest flood stories in the Halo universe and talk about the Pvt. Jankies.
They’re some scary mofos. I heard that if a spartan were to succumb to the flood, the protocol to deal with the infected spartan is basically destroy EVERYTHING whether it be orbital strikes or nuclear explosives because of how powerful the spawn would be and how much information it has.
Hey DnD, when you start playing halo odst and reach, please make a huge shout out. I don't want to miss this since I missed all the other halos. And maybe,.... A little maybe, we could play this in a squad. I promise I won't disturb your gameplay as long as you are not totally lost. 😄🙏🏻 Oh and I just want to mention a video of C3Sabertooth "we are Forerunner" this video sums up everything that went wrong when bungie left Microsoft and 343i was founded to be responsible of the trademark "Halo"
This video does a great job of illustrating why the Halo Rings were necessary at all, and why even the Forerunners had to resort to 'wipe out all life in the galaxy'
Only reason Earth didn't fall in Halo 3 to the flood was because of Rtas 'Vadum (Shipmaster or Half-jaw as the community calls him) glassing the major area around Voi and New Mombasa. Thel telling Rtas to not glass earth completely probably for me shows just how much of a mental shift the betrayal of the prophets was to him. Before he became the Arbiter he probably would not have even batted an eye to glassing earth to stop the flood.
I was kinda worried at the beginning of the video as the presenter seemed to be conflating a Flood Spore and a Flood Infection Form. Luckily, I think he kinda rectified it near the end when he described the danger of breathing the air. If you fight the flood without any sort of breathing apparatus or full body armor, you are already condemned to death the second you breathe. I'm not sure about the armor part actually, but I'm assuming that a bundle of flood cells in a spore can't be good for your bare skin if they land on it.
Have you received any requests to watch the official videos on "Don't starve"? Because I would really like you to reaction to them. Both for teasers of updates and for videos about characters.
Watching this makes me wish that the flood made a surprise appearance in halo infinite. I understand that they were basically killed off at the end of Halo 3 but it would’ve been sick to see them make a return only this time as a new variant of the flood. That would’ve added so much more tension to the story mode and would’ve given 343 an excuse to add game modes based around the flood. I’d love to see firefight come back with flood!!
There is definitly flood out there plenty of research and containment facilities everywhere, besides zeta halo that you are on is notorious for human experimentation which also included the flood 👀
Funny enough the flood can't infect certain lifeforms in the halo universe you need a central nervous system and a good amount of biomass overall for the flood this is where hunters from halo can't get infected they were the big armored worm guys pretty much too many to infect and too little of biomass per individual since well it's a collection of worms 🪱
They can be infected. They just can't be infected by the flood infection forms because they don't have a spine for them to borrow their tentacles into. They can still be infected by spores and fluids and then turned into flood biomass.
I can't remember if you guys checked out the channel HiddenXperia but id definitely recommend reacting to some of his videos because he has a very nice, concise and entertaining catalog of Halo lore videos. From lore of characters and factions to weapons and armor lore and even one on the Halo legend known as Chips Dubbo.
Have you guys considered watching the transformers Cybertron games, war for Cybertron, rise of the dark spark, and fall of Cybertron, where these stories take place on war between autobots and decepticons on Cybertron until they left Cybertron. When you look this up I recommend to look up transformers war for Cybertron autobot military and transformers exodus book reaction
The halo games never explain the flood’s origins. The forerunner trilogy of books do and explain different theories of what happened in the ancient Halo universe lore. What the video explains are just one of the four theories the forerunner trilogy explore of the Floods origin, theories of why the forerunners tried to kill off the all precursors. The books explore theories of the floods main goal. Moving through the first theory all the way to the fourth. Getting from theory to theory explains more and more the terrifying reality of the flood. And how it’s related to a real theoretic science about neural physics. Im not a RUclipsr so I don’t know if it be possible to see you two react to a RUclips video “the Primordials horrific secret”. The video isn’t about the theories of the flood’s existence because I haven’t found one video which explores the theories.
As much as people love to bring up the Xenomorph from the Alien/AvP universes as "the perfect killer," they can't hold a candle to the Flood. They have fallbacks for every possible problem, can assimilate a Gravemind from any form, and the only limit to what they can do is set by the limit of who they're consuming. The Covenant had the best possible solution which was to glass whatever planet/continent they were on, which is the only end-all for an outbreak, scorched earth. The Flood is the perfect killer in every sense of the word and it's one of my favorite Doomsday species
I don't like praising fictional characters, species, or whatever... But this is pretty much true.
The flood is such a terrifying threat. And I love that bungie managed to evolve a space zombie to such an incredible deeply developed parasite with a single sequel.
Honestly the xenomorphs scare me a lot more though, I would rather fight the flood.
Both could end the universe, especially if you take into account all the xeno stuff in comics
* Laughs in Infected from Warframe *
The Tyranids and the Zerg are also up there with the Flood for similar reasons, but I agree the Flood is the most dangerous due to its ability to form a Gravemind
I mean Xenomorphs weren't really designed as a galactic super threat. They come from a far more grounded scifi. If you want to compare the flood with something like the Xeno's you should go with the Tyranids from WH40K. Though to be honest, the Xeno's likely have a better chance at beating a keymind then flood has a chance against the Nids.
I think he missed out on the worst part of the flood. Once a gravemind is formed, it regains the knowledge of all previous graveminds. It can just start making ancient alien tec on a whim, recall the tactics of a trillion battle commanders. It is a true eternal hivemind. And even in death you shall forever remain a tortured soul, forever trapped as a part of it.
😯😨 that is a crazy strong power to have for the Gravemind
They can't just produce weapons as in order to they have to spend hundreds of years building up to it
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Yea and I think the video still *understates* the power of a gravemind and by extension its evolved form keymind which is even worse by several magnitudes. So great is the threat of a keymind that once born, it effectively spells the doom of all life. Not only can it inherit knowledge and is eternal, but its computational capabilities are truly whack. I have no other way to describe it. It's like every horror stories about AI uprisings level. It's to the extent that they can overwhelm the tactical/strategical precision of highly advanced AIs designed for warfare from the Forerunners - a super duper advanced alien species whose technology made them godlike. Practically, they can predict the future with extreme accuracy after absorbing enough biomass.
And I also cannot overstate how op these forerunners were. They can basically do whatever they want such as creating planets on a whim. Their tech is so strong that their auxiliary non-combat ship easily obliterates the most advanced tech that is available to the younger species of the Halo series. And the Flood defeated them. Utterly and completely to the point that a mutually assured destruction was their only solution.
In the Halo Forerunner trilogy novels, the Flood reactivate ancient Precursor technology called “Star Roads”, which are unimaginably gigantic filaments that physically connect planets across star systems. They used these things like colossal garrotes, slicing worlds in half with them. The Flood are nuts.
I don’t think there’s any evidence that the flood “produce” technology at all. Atleast not from what I’ve seen. They steal and adapt what they can, but they’re not building factories creating arms and ships. You’d think that they’re more than capable of doing so with a god like Gravemind controlling the wheel but they don’t do it.
"Were it not for the Arbiter's council, I would have glassed your entire planet."
Gotta love Halo
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I mean fair trade they glassed the entirety of africa 😂
one single flood spore can destroy a species.
Bungie Halo is best Halo.
in the halo books, the flood eventually become so powerful during their war against the forerunners the keymind gains psychic powers and is able to remove the space between two planets to allow an army of flood to jump from one world to another, so basically the flood can infect space itself at some point
Didn't they also begin to access or erode the sorta pocket spaces and metaphysical spaces that the Forerunners had access to thru the Mantle? It's been a while since I read the FS, but I seem to recall something along those lines.
Once they had access to the Domain and unlocked the precursors’ neural physics technology they were unstoppable if I remember correctly. I also think that their most dangerous feat is how numerous Flood-infested ships escaped into other dimensional pockets via slipspace. Essentially this means that literally anywhere at any point in time a Flood ship could randomly punch back into our reality and begin a new outbreak immediately. You just can’t counter something like that because you’ll never see it coming.
@@carloszestyboy2901 the hive for destiny is better
so basically discount vex
@@reggielacey2235the vex are basically discount flood.
“One. Single. Flood spore, can destroy a species.” Is literally the most scariest thought to think about.
I never figured out why he said species, he should have said universe
@@rhyderleming5851 you’re not wrong at all, however I think it was a jab at lord hood, kinda like “okay man, well if that shit spread passed where it was, it would’ve destroyed your whole species.”
As far as my knowledge goes lord hood never encountered the flood, probably read about it in files, but he’s never been face to face like most of the people present in that room. Especially Half Jaw,
Exactly idt people really gasped the true horror the halo universe
@@Ntwadumela89 the fact of how intelligent the flood is, and how fast they spread, honestly you’re right lol. Actually just listened to an audiobook earlier in the halo universe, Saturn eats his sun? I think it’s called, but that was honestly scary as all hell, and it was only a half an hour lol.
Just starting this vid, but I wanna say this just in case it isn't mentioned.
Graveminds and Keyminds, even when destroyed completely don't lose any of the information stored within their greater network.
What that means is, you can annihilate the flood down to the base atomic level, but you can't ever STOP the flood completely.
The moment a flood outbreak reaches a certain level, the Mind that commands those local flood near instantly has access to literal millions of years of experience and strategy.
That is…intense 😳
I know it might seem like a minor detail but the Gravemind isn't the final evolution of the flood, the Keymind is. Which is a planet sized Gravemind that has unbelievable power and abilities. There are some Halo lore channels that touch on the topic of flood lore in depth and is actually pretty interesting.
This was mentioned in the video.
@Rathfor ik but I meant this for clarification in case it anyone missed it
for anyone wondering what it might look like play dead space 3
The definition of Keymind changed slightly actually.
They're more like command forms that help in coordinating the masses more efficiently like a living and also violent synapse node. The planet sized ones still exist, but the Juggernaut and Abomination are still also Keyminds.
Thanks for making sure we caught that because a lot of info in this video. We missed the mention of the keymind 😅
I'm so glad you guys dove into the Flood's deeper lore. The games do not do their horror justice
Seeing the Gravemind for the first time in the game was pretty great though 😨🤩
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames so... speaking of horrifying alien infections, Callisto Protocol death montages are out and the few I've seen in my playthrough are insane. Any chance we'll be seeing that soon? 😆
How did they go into floods deeper lore? It was all the dude on the video they watched?
I mean it’s still a game!..how deep can they actually go?..that’s why there’s extended media
Imagine a Halo movie with the flood accurately portrayed like in the books. Man…rated R and likely scarier than the movie Alien ever was.
6:26 They actually kept the Flood samples because they feared that more Flood existed elsewhere in the universe, and felt it was better to give the galaxy whatever knowledge that could be gathered from studying said samples.
Well, after watching all your Halo gameplay and seeing that the number one cause of death for both of you (besides cliffs) was each other, I can safely and assuredly say for a fact that neither of you would survive the Floof, if only because you'll probably have killed each other long before the Floof actually become a problem! 😂 Cheers for another fun reaction!!!😁
😂 especially if we had that big ass Covenant space hammer. That is just death all around 😝
You forgot that even if you were able to make it to some remote solar system/world where you and a handful of others might wish to live out your final days, you have to hope that nobody assimilated has knowledge of it, how to get to it, or that the soon-to-be-interstellar Flood ships can't detect it or have no interest in visiting. :)
So basically you have to be a loner that had no family or friends and never worked a job but just read a bunch of books and then burned those books so no one else could read them, check out the library card for any past readers of said book and kill them all. 🤔 ✅
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames worse you would have to do all of that and then travel to a higher or another dimension just to survive
And the only reason we have individuals who are resilient to the infection on the side of the humans was a fluke because of the research of Halsey who was originally looking to build super soldiers to crush rebellions, but a greater purpose for them was discovered.
Spartan-1s have an actual resilience to the flood due to the augmentations, whilst Spartan-IIs and onward I don't believe have a confirmed resilience (but probably still do), but the Mjolnir armour filters out anything airborne and the shielding stops them from making contact.
So someone needs to get started on that research 🔬 😜
Could have swore I read that the Spartan 2's bodies are too machine from the augmentations for the Flood to be able to assimilate them. I would guess that means your best bet would be going after Spartan 3s who only got chemical augmentations or the 4s who I believe had something similar as well.
As of Halo: Saturn Devouring His Son, the outbreak at forerunner research site 22 resulted in spartan fireteam leviathan being infected by flood spores, overwhelming their bio/hazmat-containment training and equipment. Corrupter protocol was enacted and all personnel was given only seven minutes to evacuate before bombardment.
Several craft made it out before site 22’s destruction. However, at least one attacker form managed to board a Condor, presumably escaping the planet breaker nuke.
Given Halo Infinite’s S4 armor theme, the UNSC is aware of the high possibility there is a Condor adrift in space with a Flood-Infected Spartan aboard.
One part that wasn't fully gone into with the grave minds and key minds is that all grave minds and eventual key minds know everything from every mind before it all the way to the original. It makes them way more terrifying because of the fact the second a new mind is formed it is almost infinitely more intelligent than any opponents they come against, and will use that intelligence to manipulate what are normally it's food/enemies into fighting for or even alongside the flood similar to halo 2 and 3.
Actually the Covenant was the one who released the Floods and not humans
Something I don’t think he remembered to state was that the flood does have the ability to infect the very existence of the universe if they grow powerful and large enough.
so basically the vex from destiny
@@reggielacey2235no the vex are basically the flood since halo came out before destiny.
That is absolutely insane 🤯
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames the destiny universe is even more insane
Halo Reach campaign cinematics is insane, pretty long but would love to see it
That’s one we plan to play 🙂
“One single flood spore can destroy a species.”
Wait till you find out what the Precurseors actually are. We knew about Precusor technology working on the concept that the universe is a neural network, as if the entire universe was a living entity. The precusors figured out a way to transcend to a hirer plane of existence and join that higher mind.
Turns out, we were only partially right. The Precursors, the Flood and the Universe was infact the entire same entity. but like matter has different states (solid, liquid and gas), THe Universe has it's 3 forms too:
-The Neural Network (The living universe)
-The Precusors (The sheperds/Matle holders)
-The Flood (The way the universe digest life)
THe universe becomes precusors inorder to travel the univers and create life. Those liforms are the sheep and the Precusors are the shepards (hence the mantle of respibility) These life fomrs are meant to flourish and have good and bad expereinces. Emotions are like a sweetness to hte universe and the universe wants those experiences. Then wehn enough life is in the niverse, The precusors goes into their Flood form, to digest us and all ourcollective emotions and experiences, even our ancestors through genetic memory.
When the flood has eaten enough they transcent back into the Neural netowrk to enrich the universe.
So we are living in the thing that eats us inother words, we are the way the universe gets to know itself.
May have seen me pop up here and there in comments, but I absolutely love Halo and all the lore in it! Excited to see what else you react to and your playthrough of ODST if you do so! My favorite game in the series by far.
destiny is better
Cope
@@reggielacey2235cope
We look forward to continuing playing the Halo games. ODST and Reach for sure are ones we are looking forward to 😅
You guys and Chicago reacts really just carrying the reactions. Keep it up🎉
Thanks so much! We actually met with the creator of Chicago reacts a couple of months ago 🙂😀
The Flood are basically the zerg from Starcraft on ecstasy, steroids, and bath salts. Mind you, The Flood would destroy The Zerg, since they can infect any lifeform and while the zerg evolve by consuming biomass, the flood could easily turn that against them since they could infect other zerg where as zerg could not infect flood creatures. A pair of videos I'd suggest to check out is one where you have The Flood vs The Necromorphs of Deadspace; RoanokeGaming made his case for the Necromorphs while HiddenXperia made his for The Flood; that is one was knowledgeable on The Flood and the other on The Necromorphs. The conclusion was mostly up for the viewer to decide.
Both are terrifying and could easily wipe out humanity and are very malevolent entities to any living entity, be it human, animal, or alien. The Flood would in most scenarios win, imo, but there is some conditions that would give the necromorphs the advantage. I so reccommend watching both videos and figuring out which would win.
How about Flood vs Tyranids from WH40K? Zerg were originally supposed to be Tyranids, as StarCraft was originally meant to be a Warhammer 40k video game, but Blizzard lost the rights and turned it into its own IP. Terrans are Terrans, Zerg are Tyranids, Protoss are Eldar. However with things like genestealers idk, it's probably more of a similar situation with the Zerg where Flood would just take them all over and become an even more terrifying amalgamation of swarm hivemind monstrosities.
@@KillerChickn Tyranids are very much akin to Zerg and since Tyranids and Flood use weapons, they'd go together like Jelly on butter. The Flood are just disturbingly powerful and terrifying.
Funfact.
There's two cases of Flood cults.
1 being ancient humanity and the prophets being infected with a first case of the flood infection. It was a cannibal cult too.
2 one was a extremist cult of the covenant that made the rest of the covenant look like athiest.
They consider every forerunner artifact, structure or anything, sacrosanct.
The problem was that they considered the flood a blessing of the forerunners.
And one commanded a ship an ordered his crew to let the flood onto his vessel.
Luckily he's dead, replaced by the Elite that killed him, with no complaints from the other crew members.
Awesome! I was hoping y'all would react to more 'why you would't survive' videos and this one is one of my faves
It’s a fun series we are happy to check out more 😀
You should do why you wouldn’t survive a necromorph outbreak
They should react to all of them
Will probably be the next one of these that we do 😅
You really really need to do the necromorphs I agree
5:15 missing out on some stuff the flood infected a forerunner world and ancient humanity noticed and wiped it out without saying anythjng to the forerunners in general because the humans were too afraid because they know how fast the flood spread, but ofcourse the forerunners had no idea that humanity was running from the flood in general and thought the purification of the forerunner world as a hostile act instead of a saving one
Flood outbreak irl? Big red button out of the gate. Civilian casualties be damned, Geneva conventions be damned
he's like the hyper chihuahua and she is like the cat that makes eye contact with you as she slowly pushes the glass off the coffee table thats what i was thinking at the beginning of the video : )
Always entertaining watching people who only play the Halo games and not look into the expanded universe listen to stories about the Flood and see the smiles turn into looks of disgust and horror.
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive-Games I recommend watching the Halo Evolutions Mona Lisa story video. It involves the flood and how horrific it is.
They forgot the fact that Johnson is immune to the flood somehow(Johnson as in first generation spartans). I’m assuming he’s also not the only one. The UNSC also has a protocol in case a spartan gets infected by the flood which would immediately nuke the area. Not a single spartan has been infected so we don’t know what that’s like.
Thats a myth, Johnson is harder to infect due to him being a spartan 1. There is no immunity
So, as the video said, there used to be ancient Humans along with the Forerunners, both created by the Precursors. The last precursor was captured by the Forerunners in a time lock vault, one we see in Halo: Infinite. When interrogated, it revealed the true nature of the universe, and it was so shocking to those who heard it, many committed suicide immediately because of the revelation. The Precursor revealed that their mastery of reality had led to development of neural physics, a way to tap into the consciousness of all reality. And they found out that reality wants life to exist everywhere. This is the truth of the Mantle of Responsibility that the Precursors upheld. The universe does not discern between good or bad things. Hate, love, hope, despair. It is all "sweetness" to the universe. So the Mantle is meant to spread life everywhere just so that the universal consciousness of creation can keep experiencing the sweetness of all the good AND bad things that happen to living beings. The neural (brain) physics of sentient and sapient beings living and dying, loving and suffering, is but a sweet food for the universe and that is the only truth and meaning to existence. Obviously finding out this revelation is soul shattering to any being who might believe in a higher power that wants good things for living beings and existence, because it also wants bad things for us all too.
Also, the Precursors were able to tap into alternate realities and drain the energies from them for their own use. Crazy stuff.
I assume this is revealed in Infinite, since last i checked the wiki, what the Precursor revealed was still a mystery?
@@neotailz It's revealed in one of the Forerunner trilogy books.
@@KillerChickn i remember the Precursor, but I don't remember that the truth of the universe was explained, only the part where it was so overwhelming that it caused the people to kill themselves and eventually the Precursor. I'll have to go back and find that chapter.
You guys definitely need to watch the similar video about the necromorph outbreak from dead space. It's just as much interesting!!
We look forward to it 😁
I love bungie. The flood and the hive are two of the coolest “swarm” type of enemies ive ever seen. I also love the Zerg.
I miss the halo streams. :)
They will come back 🤗
Ooo nice! Have you two watched halo evolutions yet? If not I highly recommend they're really suspenseful.
We haven’t yet 😅
I hate to take Ken's side with the scenario given at the end of the video (because it's bleak), but I feel he's right. Even if humanity knew of another planet we could escape to, and we somehow managed to flee to it without carrying the infection there ourselves? The Flood would have learned about it's existence by assimilating the rest of our population. If there were such a world then I can only assume that would be the very next stop on the Flood's interstellar invasion.
All that said, I loved the reaction!
The Flood Vs Tyranids sounds fun, they'd probably be Best friends. 😂
They would just infect each other and eat each other until they merged into one terrifying being 😨😱
If they didnt eat each other until they both became unkillable-
Nah flood would win. Tyranids are still biomass. A dead tyranid becomes a new flood form
I'd also like to see them informed on why we wouldn't survive the locust horde
😯 another good one to check out
Please react to a video called '' there will never be another melee player like hungrybox '' it's a little outside your wheelhouse but it's so good that I can imagine you becoming instant fans after watching it . Where the videos you usually react to get you to connect with games this one will get you to connect with the players. The people actually playing those games
You both MUST WATCH The Mona Lisa. It's the story in halo of soldiers and their perspectives with the Flood. Really crazy story
Only "zombies plague" that can rival the flood is the necromorphs from dead space as far as I'm aware. The flood are very op.
Sadly we don't know enough about the necromorphs and brethren moons to realistically say who would win.
@@spectralassassin6030 the cool thing about necromorphs is that they kinda have a psychic-borne pathogen, which would be an interesting factor
Halo, Dragonball, and Star Wars. That's three things so far that you guys like that peak my interests, too. Always nice to find a channel like that.
The original source of the video called the infection forms spores but they are two different things. Flood spores are like floating clumps of cells. They even showed a spore in the video lol
I really hope you guys look up some HiddenXperia's videos on halo lore...imo, his editing and general tone when he is telling us about the lore of halo is mysterious and tense!
We plan to check that channel out in the future 🙂
There is a video by installation 00 about the primordial, a surviving precursor, and what it says that makes the halo universe into cosmic horror
Here's a chaotic solution if I give up, which will be directly at the start, I'm donating my everything to a hospital, organs, brain, bones, everything.
29:39 Oh but if that happens, the Flood know about it too. They'll follow you, if they haven't gotten there first!
The stages of the central mind of the flood. Proto, grave mind, and then key mind. The key mind are the size of a planet.
One thing I haven’t seen someone say or the video didn’t say but there are some people immune to the flood well not immune but are seen as not able to be taken over. Sgt. Johnson from the original game is one of the people that are immune.
This is why there was protocol that states if a Spartan was taken over by flood then there was to be nukes and mac immediately launched at the locations as they would learn how to augment to be stronger then Spartans and become basically unkillable
I would really recommend you guys react to the Dead Cells animated trailers
I've been a Halo fan since late middle school. 'Twas today I learned that a Flood infestation is SO MUCH HORRIFICALLY WORSE than I thought. If we have a Flood infestation, I'm dousing myself in gasolene, pulling the pin on a grenade, and jumping into a vat of napalm. That is a WHOLE bunch of nope to the billionth power. And now I'm gonna go watch someone play through Halo 2 for some reason. 😂
The last evolution of the Gravemind is the Keymind. Which is a Gravemind that can cover multiple planets and are known to open rifts in space to travel faster than the forerunners could move to defend planets that are defenseless which was one of the main reasons the forerunners lost. The other reasons they lost were because they failed to contain it much like the old humans and prophets 10,000 years early during the human-forerunner war, and failed to quarantine there people resulting in widespread infection of entire planets and the near extinction of the forerunners and all other sentient life. Also if the forerunners handled the outbreak like the humans and covenant did during the Human-Covenant war they would have beat the flood, because their were many outbreaks of the flood caused by Humans and the Covenant that were contained and destroyed in days resulting in destruction of entire planets and solar systems. An example of an outbreak that was successfully destroyed by the Humans and Elites was in Africa they glassed half of Africa, then the UNSC sent in their own ships and bombed half of Africa after it was glassed, then sent in troops after that to wipe out the surviving flood.
Omg f that movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers ughh gets under my skin. You guys should react to Hidden Xperia he goes into much depth of the food and has a video called the 3 creepiest flood stories in the Halo universe and talk about the Pvt. Jankies.
That’s a channel that we will have to check out because lots of recommendations for it 😀
Heck yes I love you guys you'll love it he like top 2 go to for halo lore
Hey Definitive, can you two react to this same giy, and watch why that we all wouldn't survive covenant halo. Just we can't survive the flood.
The flood when they get enough biomass they can literally break space time, that’s just how strong they are
You guys should look at Flood vs Demons from Doom! It makes me feel a lot better… or cleaner I should say
Oh cool! We had that for a fight night Friday on our instagram but didn’t realize there was a video on it 😀
Sure you could maybe escape on a ship to some far off planet until the flood rips a hole through space and puts your planet next to a keymind
It uses all the people's memories and can use it to torture your mind and talk to you with their voices
They’re some scary mofos. I heard that if a spartan were to succumb to the flood, the protocol to deal with the infected spartan is basically destroy EVERYTHING whether it be orbital strikes or nuclear explosives because of how powerful the spawn would be and how much information it has.
Hey DnD,
when you start playing halo odst and reach, please make a huge shout out. I don't want to miss this since I missed all the other halos.
And maybe,.... A little maybe, we could play this in a squad. I promise I won't disturb your gameplay as long as you are not totally lost. 😄🙏🏻
Oh and I just want to mention a video of C3Sabertooth "we are Forerunner" this video sums up everything that went wrong when bungie left Microsoft and 343i was founded to be responsible of the trademark "Halo"
If you’re looking for more great condensed, easy-to-digest Halo more, check out HiddenXperia’s channel.
My absolute favorite channel
I would delete myself pew to the head can't use what's not there
The best course of action would be to die before the Flood gets to you.
i don't know why but i somehow thought there would be an AD saying " hot flood spawn near your area, click here "
The Flood = Embodiment of “You’re Fucked”
This video does a great job of illustrating why the Halo Rings were necessary at all, and why even the Forerunners had to resort to 'wipe out all life in the galaxy'
1:10 I was there for that cold hearted moment 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
I think you should watch how you wouldn't survive gears of war locust horde and lambet infection next
Hey, I have a suggestion for a video, I don't know the official name but it goes something like "What happens if the flood come to earth today"
yeah almost everything folds when the flood attacks
you guys should watch How the Gravemind broke Cortana between Halo 2 and Halo 3 from HiddenXperia
The only reason the precursors were defeated by the forunners is because they simply didn't fight back
Y’all should react to why you wouldn’t survive a necromorph outbreak at some point
We will 🙂
Only reason Earth didn't fall in Halo 3 to the flood was because of Rtas 'Vadum (Shipmaster or Half-jaw as the community calls him) glassing the major area around Voi and New Mombasa. Thel telling Rtas to not glass earth completely probably for me shows just how much of a mental shift the betrayal of the prophets was to him. Before he became the Arbiter he probably would not have even batted an eye to glassing earth to stop the flood.
I was kinda worried at the beginning of the video as the presenter seemed to be conflating a Flood Spore and a Flood Infection Form. Luckily, I think he kinda rectified it near the end when he described the danger of breathing the air. If you fight the flood without any sort of breathing apparatus or full body armor, you are already condemned to death the second you breathe. I'm not sure about the armor part actually, but I'm assuming that a bundle of flood cells in a spore can't be good for your bare skin if they land on it.
Have you received any requests to watch the official videos on "Don't starve"? Because I would really like you to reaction to them. Both for teasers of updates and for videos about characters.
We have had some requests for that series but don’t know much about it 🤔 not that that is unusual for us 🤗
I love wow such gaming i watched all his why you wouldn't survive and his zombie sins
I'd survive the Floof cause I'm already a fungus.
😆
Watching this makes me wish that the flood made a surprise appearance in halo infinite. I understand that they were basically killed off at the end of Halo 3 but it would’ve been sick to see them make a return only this time as a new variant of the flood. That would’ve added so much more tension to the story mode and would’ve given 343 an excuse to add game modes based around the flood. I’d love to see firefight come back with flood!!
There is definitly flood out there plenty of research and containment facilities everywhere, besides zeta halo that you are on is notorious for human experimentation which also included the flood 👀
Funny enough the flood can't infect certain lifeforms in the halo universe you need a central nervous system and a good amount of biomass overall for the flood this is where hunters from halo can't get infected they were the big armored worm guys pretty much too many to infect and too little of biomass per individual since well it's a collection of worms 🪱
They can be infected. They just can't be infected by the flood infection forms because they don't have a spine for them to borrow their tentacles into. They can still be infected by spores and fluids and then turned into flood biomass.
@Keybored Gaming yeah i know about the spores but if flood started on a planet full of only hunters they can't spread out and spore like normal
Hope you guys react to Halo 4 terminal and the Spartans Ops cut scenes. Those are fun to react and gives a better insight into Forerunner lore.
We will. Need to play odst and also Reach and then dive into Halo 4 😅
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames Definitely look to them. 😀
The only thing I think is remotely close to being on same level as the Flood are the Necromorphs from Dead Space. Its a very similar cycle.
some other vast verses, even a single one of its fellow bungieverses....well, collections of verses, can do so. Lore-wise.
I can't remember if you guys checked out the channel HiddenXperia but id definitely recommend reacting to some of his videos because he has a very nice, concise and entertaining catalog of Halo lore videos. From lore of characters and factions to weapons and armor lore and even one on the Halo legend known as Chips Dubbo.
The channel sounds very familiar so if we haven’t checked videos out from the channel then we have definitely had it recommended 😅
“why you wouldnt survive the flood”
these guys can kill master chief. that tells you all you need to know.
ye the flood and tyranid are super similar, basically a different style of the same idea.
Have you guys considered watching the transformers Cybertron games, war for Cybertron, rise of the dark spark, and fall of Cybertron, where these stories take place on war between autobots and decepticons on Cybertron until they left Cybertron. When you look this up I recommend to look up transformers war for Cybertron autobot military and transformers exodus book reaction
Sgt Johnson is immune to Flood infection
You should eventually watch there why you wouldn't survive horizons faro plague I love that series and you have amazing reactions.
The fact that you can only kill them by lightning an array designed to kill all sentient life says all you need to know about the flood
The halo games never explain the flood’s origins. The forerunner trilogy of books do and explain different theories of what happened in the ancient Halo universe lore. What the video explains are just one of the four theories the forerunner trilogy explore of the Floods origin, theories of why the forerunners tried to kill off the all precursors. The books explore theories of the floods main goal. Moving through the first theory all the way to the fourth. Getting from theory to theory explains more and more the terrifying reality of the flood. And how it’s related to a real theoretic science about neural physics. Im not a RUclipsr so I don’t know if it be possible to see you two react to a RUclips video “the Primordials horrific secret”. The video isn’t about the theories of the flood’s existence because I haven’t found one video which explores the theories.
Would love to see you react to "Why you wouldn't survive against the Demons of DOOM"
hey the h3 flood tank isn't basically a floody l4d tank cause h3 came out first.
Dont forget the spores
Everyone shoots the crazy marine in Halo CE. Its just the done thing.
I was hoping the guy would go into talking about mendicate bias
The Infection pods are NOT spores. Spores are small enough to be inhaled.