@Buttercup-vw2zo This interview was to help destigmatize sociopathy and help people get a better understanding of what ASPD is and what causes it. It is still understandable to be guarded around someone who has difficulty experiencing empathy. We all have every right to keep ourselves safe and choose who we spend our time with. The person who I interviewed is a friend, and has supported me in a multitude of ways, and for that I am grateful. This person also has not done anything to break my trust in them. My trust, for me personally, builds for people over time, and can easily be taken away. I have been naïve in my past and trusted the wrong people, but I continue to grow and learn ways to protect myself. I care for myself in this way with anyone regardless of a diagnosis. I gauge people based on their actions, not their label, and that is a philosophy I hope this video can promote and perpetuate.
This is like listening to someone talking about my life. When I have to be around many people on a constant basis, my internal state becomes very confused because I'm trying to fit with all the different personalities around me, and everyone ends up pissed off with me. One to one, is more comfortable as I can concentrate on one set of needs more successfully. People always seem to think that I know what I have done to upset them, so without feedback there is no learning. And so on it goes from failed interaction to failed interaction. Edit: As a result of masking, I became a talented actor because I was used to re-mixing my character on a moment to moment basis anyway. I also enjoyed knowing exactly what was going to happen for all the time I was on stage.
That's impressive you were able to turn something that hinders you into something constructive that you genuinely enjoy! I hope you are able to find the right group of peers who are understanding and kind. It took me a long time to learn to make friends. Watching the RUclips channel Charisma On Command helped me a lot.
He is a great friend. Thanks for your comment! He's been a huge help in helping me to succeed in my journey as a twitch streamer, and he's a pleasure to be around.
@@danikassander8612 You need to be very careful here, because sociopaths generally don't care about anyone. They ACT like they care. They are very good at it. They manipulate so that they look like they're your friends but they really aren't. You need to find real friends. People that can give you what you give them. This statement and everyone saying what a good person this man is, was disturbing. He's not. He's acting. I have been through hell and back my entire life and I made the choice to care about other people. We all have that choice. No one's back story is an excuse for them shutting off their emotions and having no empathy for others. I went through absolute hell because I chose to do what you did and allow someone that told me that he had anti-social personality disorder into my life, because I felt bad for him and he seemed like such a good guy he always went above and beyond to help me. This man sounds EXACTLY like the one I was dealing with. A virtual carbon copy. It was all fake. The entire time, he was working against me, trying to sabotage my life etc. While smiling in my face, bringing me gifts, fixing things and acting like the sweetest person in the entire world. RUN AWAY FROM ANYONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE REAL EMPATHY. Do not let someone like that into your life. Never let them have any control over anything of yours. DON'T become dependant. They like that, and will try to do everything for you. It will be your undoing if you allow it. Don't allow him to manipulate you and I can see that this is what's happening and I didn't see it until it was too late in my own life. It's their job to fix their own problems and they are the only ones that can. One day that carefully constructed mask will slip and you don't want to be there to see that. True evil, is what I saw. Someone that listened to me cry and knew how bad things were for me, and he was purposely trying to make things worse for me. I started noticing that he would hum and whistle whenever I would cry, whenever he saw me happy he was miserable. It was cruel and sadistic. You need to be very careful and keep all this in mind. Never forget that you are NOT dealing with a normal, healthy individual. Just because he seems like he cares about you, that doesn't mean that he does.
@@andreaanonymous5474 I'm really sorry that that all happened to you and it's understandable where you are coming from. And it was brave of you to share your story, especially since talking about those things isn't easy. Thank you for checking in and also for typing this out out of concern for me. I don't wanna say anything negitive about my friend, but please know I have a lot of really great people in my life and a lot of support.
How this showed up on my feed idk, but I’m happy for choosing to watch/listen. This was such an informative interview in a lot of area’s. Especially as a person diagnosed w adhd, it was elating to hear him share that we’re enthralled by watching fire and have never heard anyone verbalize it before. Throughout my life I’ve been criticized and called weird for doing that, but it’s soothing like watching a Jackson Pollock painting. I feel vindicated for that, and if it happens again I can point to this video. Hah. Anyhow, thank you.
I'm so glad this helped! I have ADHD as well, and I did a few streams on it. You might like my video called "How To Cope With ADHD." It helped me a lot and I hope it can help you too :)
I said the same thing! I have no idea why this came up in my auto play feed today. I've never seen this chick before, nor have i watched this type of video. I'm not mad at all though, it's been fascinating and I listened to the whole video. 🇺🇲🙃💜💚
@@oneluckygirlandherdog Omg thank you so much for the kind words! 😊💙I used to post these twice a week but life's been crazy. My mom and I are EMTs who responded to a plane crash, and I'm going to interview her on being an EMT for the last several decades on my next stream, and do a Q&A if you wanna join in in chat with everyone ^-^
I did a test to my psychiatrist demand. It's called the Hare test. I got 31. It's not sociopathy. It's ASPD, psychopathy. I don't know what they will do.
@SurnaturalM Sharing your experience here took a lot of courage. It makes sense to be unsure how your doctors will proceed. While they may present a treatment plan, medication options, and/or psychotherapy options, it's important to remember you have autonomy over what happens to you. You get a say in how you choose to proceed, and you deserve to have those choices respected. Best of luck in your healing journey, and feel free to reach out any time for support 🧡
Me too is a feminist movement, but it is not meant to be only for women. It is meant to be a solidarity movement for any and all victims of sexual abuse and harassment. It makes me sad to hear that Poison did not feel welcome to be a part of that.
You're right, and that's a great point. I will pass this along to Poizun. I'm sure he'll appreciate hearing your empathy for his situation. It's really great to see so many comments where people are looking past his ASPD and be able to empathize with him. I understand why some wouldn't, but nonetheless I appreciate what you said.
how calculating this dude is has me rolling. 24 mins into and i was sad, but once it got to the *cute* thing, and him studying his dog, I cant help but to laugh. Its interesting that he is always choosing how he wants people to feel. I do not think as hard at all in my day to day life. It came natural because i was always an emotional child. i didnt show emotions to others, but i was a deep feeler as a kid. it has alot to do with the land before time and bambi.
You brought up an interesting point....that you do not think hard, it just comes naturally. Is this the same for everyone?(the majority) I wonder if it's my brain trying to make up for something that it lacks....I am going to think more on this.
masking is when u dont just move ur face to look like a certain type of emotion, its when u act like u have that emotion via facial expression, tone of voice, choice of words and etc.
Bee stings aren’t always your fault. When I was a kid one flew into the back of my head and got caught in my hair I tried to get it out pretty much reactively and it stung my finger. I didn’t even know it was a bee or a wasp and I still don’t know what did it I never saw it. Even if I somehow didn’t try to get it out of my hair It might have stung the back of my head. Rattlesnake’s don’t always rattle, you don’t always know you’re stepping on a beehive and I think it’s important to accept and understand that some things are out our control.
@@poisonwilliams I just noticed you’re the guy in the video. That’s a statement though, an analogy would be more along the lines of “Not getting stung by the bee that flew into the back of head would be like dodging rain drops in a thunderstorm.”
If a person is willing to put the work in to be better despite their illness, that's the important thing. Self-improvement, medication, therapy, and self-reflection are important. Not all people with ASPD are good people. But they aren't all inherently bad either.
I was diagnosed with aspd and the mask is not Just about using the proper social facial expressions to show emotion emotion or false emotion to keep the other person engaged it's also the way you act and who you are it's not just your face is masked a lot of people think that but it's not the case it's everything
That makes sense. Yeah I never took his masking to be disingenuous, and I appreciate his efforts. I wish you the best of luck in your journey through coping with ASPD, and thank you for sharing your experience.
I have ASPD and I almost can never say it because people think I will hurt them. Hollywood and videos of "professionals" talking about how we shouldn't live have really affected people. I feel lost.
?? Your feelings are hurt because society intentionally warns the world about people with ASPD- they manipulate, they don't care about peoples wellbeing or feelings. This whole interview was this guy discussing how he learns from others how to behave in order to get what he wants.
Thank you for opening up here about what you're going through. That took a lot of strength, and you do not deserve to be treated as less than for having ASPD. What those people do not understand is that ASPD is indicative that you've experienced tremendous trauma, and your brain has created a numbness from emotions as a coping mechanism. You are worthy of kindness and respect. Anyone who tries to make you feel otherwise is not worth your time.
Also, this is anecdotal, but you may find comfort knowing I have several friends that I've known for years who have ASPD. I'm grateful to have these friendships, and they have all made a positive impact on my life.
Amy B With all due respect, Amy. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. People with ASPD are either that way due to severe trauma or they were born like that. Either way, It's not their fault and it's not something that they chose. I am what would be considered a sociopath so I wasn't born like that. There is a way to heal me and that is through unconditional love as I feel a strong sense of loyalty and duty. Yes, I will never be "normal" or have the emotions that an average person has but that doesn't mean I want to go around manipulating people. People actually disgust me and I would love to stay away from them as much as I can. There are ways to "heal" sociopaths and as for psychopaths, It's a bit harder but it can be done. Just not through vanilla methods. I know there has to be a way. I would also like to tell you that while we lack conscience and laugh at emotional people, We feel a lot of anger, Melancholy, Joy, Etc. Just in episodes and short bursts rather than it being a constant. There is no such thing as a human being like an emotionless stone. That's not how it works. Never did. Never will. That's the movie business and it's not a representation of society like you said. It's a bunch of pretentious middle-aged hipsters who read two books and think they understand the world.
Dani Kassander Thank you, That's what I'm trying to explain to the commentator above you who is attacking me for no reason lol. I was severely beaten, Abused, Emotionally manipulated and threatened with death since I was 4. I also grew up poor in Cairo, Egypt and I am still poor in Cairo, Egypt. That's a 3rd world country if you didn't know. Nobody knows what it's like growing up poor in the middle-east. A life unfit for insects. I didn't choose that. I'm proud of my ethnicity and heritage obviously but I didn't choose the conditions I was born in. Not a lot of people know what it's like to have your mother chase you around with a knife for example or to see people getting killed or to inhale tear gas and have tanks and armored vehicles in the street. Nobody knows what it's like to be non-binary and bisexual in Egypt. I can get killed if I came out. I remember the time I started developing sociopathic behavior and that was around 9. When I actually transitioned into one was when I was 15. I was getting seriously beaten everyday in school for 2 years non-stop. The teachers here can break a rib too. So students and teachers beat me. I was crying furiously everyday until one night, I just started laughing and the pain turned into an unbelievable amount of anger, Hate and violence that I still hold to this day. It's gotten much heavier over time. I apologize for the long comment but I had to explain because I am so done with people on the internet who grew up in western suburbs dismissing someone like me as a cartoon villain. I am good at controlling myself through intense training but someone else with ASPD might get his anger and hate fueled even more by comments and videos of people saying people with ASPD shouldn't live meanwhile they're not perfect themselves. Nobody is perfect but nobody is helping each other. I hate this world.
I am really surprised you had this conversation over VOIP, but you didnt address the possibility that interactions are easier when doing over something like Discord, since you dont have to show your face.
That's a great observation. Poizun, the person I am interviewing, is a friend of mine IRL and we've talked face-to-face on numerous occasions even before this interview. He has explained to me that while he has learned how to successfully do "masking" (making his face more expressive of emotions so that a listener can know he is engaged with what they are saying) it does get very tiring after a while. Even in a voice call he makes efforts to put inflections in his voice, but it is less emotionally taxing than combining this with facial queues.
Thank you for your comment! You're totally right, the new term is more fitting. I titled the video with the term "sociopath" because more people are familiar with this term, and I wanted this video to attract people who were less familiar with the disorder so that they could learn more about it and hopefully the interview could serve to remove the stigma behind the disorder.
Are you asking me or Poizun? I'm not sure if he's taking anything, but I'm taking medication for my own mental health. I know one thing he does is Poizun has always stayed sober though in order to have control of himself, which I greatly respect.
Dani, I had to go after the first 30 seconds because of your ums and uhs. I highly recommend trying to get that under control. It takes away from your content, I think, and feels very sloppy to me, especially in the face of such a serious topic.
Yeah. I think the pressure comes from it being live, I get anxious if I take too long to finish loading a thought becsuse I want to prevent having more than a few seconds of dead air, but I'll try to be more conscious of it
Did I say disingenuine in the video? When I replied to one of the RUclips comments trying to spell that word spell check was like "yo idk what the fuck you're trying to say" and it took me like 3 minutes and a Google search to learn I've been saying it wrong all this time lmao. I finally learned to say "anecdote" instead of "antidote" too haha
@@SLKnoxx *sigh* I was just making a general joke. ADHD is not that easy to diagnose....we all know this. It is just a general commonality. Like saying all white people sunburn.....this isnt a true statement nor does it mean you can tell someone is white by their ability to sunburn.
It is my understanding that psychopathy is something people are born with, and sociopathy is something that people develop as a response to trauma as a means to protect themselves. My friend in this interview was clinically diagnosed with ASPD/sociopathy. If there is something I am misunderstanding or a part where I misspoke please let me know and I will be sure to correct it in the description. Thank you for your input, it is appreciated.
Sociopathy and psychopathy both fall under the umbrella of Antisocial Personality Disorder. Like other personality disorder, ASPD is a spectrum, some may be on the low end, in the middle, or on the high end.
The truth still stands that ppl with ASPD tend to act impulsively, are manipulative to those around them, can be harsh and cruel to those around them, can be very callous with no regard to the feelings of others, and often become criminals who break laws that yes, could include violent crimes. This disorder can't be cured and it's dangerous to attempt to get people close to these individuals or harbor some sort of empathy for them. This entire interview could have been an attempt to manipulate the interviewer. This interview was actually really gross, honestly.
1-3% of people are sociopaths or psychopaths 15-25% of people in prison are sociopaths or psychopaths. I’m not exact on the percentages but the point is that people without ASPD are still very capable of violent crimes and cruelty. Of course there’s undiagnosed cases to worry about. (My grandma thinks it’s 30-40% of people, which is absurd but unfortunately 30% of the people she’s been close to exhibited aspd she’s just incredibly unlucky.) and going back to prison the statistics don’t separate violent crimes from over punished drug possession. Unfortunately vast majority of prisoners are just drug offenders and sticking anyone in a big cage with more dangerous people for even a month will almost ensure that they come out a worse person. It’s interesting that some people that experience trauma will not develop aspd and some will. Trauma will permanently damage anyone experience it one way or another and I think aspd is essentially an emotional death state as it’s irreversible just like bodily death.
@@creamofthecrop6743 Yes, of course, we are all imperfect human beings and capable of hurting others to some capacity. But "normal" people and not normal I mean people without ASPD, I know in truth no one is free of at least some sort of mental health struggle. But anyway. People without ASPD do not go through life manipulating for personal gain, conning others for personal gain, steal without any sort of guilt. These examples are from the National Institute of Health website and are a criteria for diagnosis of ASPD via the DSM-5: "Deceitfulness, repeated lying, conning others for pleasure or personal profit. Irritability and aggressiveness. Often with physical fights or assault. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others. Lack of remorse. Indifferent to or rationalizing of having hurt or stolen from another person." So, my point is that normal, nonviolent people do not engage in these behaviors. If someone does engage in these types of behaviors, without influence of alcohol, drugs or a disorder like schizophrenia present, they may very well be a sociopath or psychopath aka ASPD. I do agree this diagnosis is akin to a death sentence as there is a poor prognosis, it can not be cured and there's not a medication to treat this with. There's no cure for having no conscience, unfortunately. And folks who lack a conscience with undoubtably be toxic and will manipulate and will look out for themselves first and only. And that is dangerous. Even if they may not be particularly physically violent, they're not someone you want to befriend or worse, involve yourself romantically with. I'm sorry to say this, but I'm only speaking from a clinical perspective and am trying to warn the masses. And people who are very empathetic and kind are most at risk when it comes to these individuals. I do not think they are inhuman monsters. I know they experience a range of emotions. They just don't care about anyone else's emotions. This whole interview was a manipulation attempt because if the person were being honest at all, they would have cited the real, true behaviors that are necessary for diagnosis. As a normal individual with a conscience, I do think this is a sad life because these impedes these individuals abilities to form any sort of real, true bond with another human being. It takes a heart to really truly have a loving, healthy relationship, even a platonic one. So in that way, I feel very sad for anyone with this diagnosis. At the same time, we have to be careful of these individuals, especially if they aren't receiving any sort of mental health help, which if I'm not mistaken, statistically, most do not reach out for any professional help. It's a sad truth of reality and I'm not trying to dehumanize anyone and I'm only one person, I don't have all the answers. But I will not hesitate to warn people to please be careful around these individuals for your own well being and safety. For example, they would not feel badly about assaulting you and taking your money if they knew they could get away with it. Please be careful out there, folks. Many many victims have been harmed by individuals who would meet criteria for this disorder. Please look after yourselves and your loved ones.
@@amyb7823 it’s a total land mine and I definitely recommend keeping your distance and paying attention to what people ask of you and how often. For a sociopath they would much rather talk you into giving them something than try to take it by force they’re aware of consequences and how to avoid them. And unfortunately therapeutic techniques you would use on some without ASPD can validate sociopaths bad behaviour. And the guy didn’t mention anything super negative about himself or what he’s done. But I think diagnosing and using more specialized therapy as soon as possible is the best method. I have minor ASD (it nothing to do with ASPD) or at least I’ve been told that since I have was eight and I’m horribly adjusted with depression and social anxiety I have no job and one IRL friend and I’m very fortunate for that. But meeting and maintaining any new friendships is difficult I pretty much brow beat myself thinking these people hate me and I know they don’t but it still feels like they really do. Because I keep a shit list of all the times I’ve dropped the metaphoric ball or thrown it back too hard in social setting. I honestly wonder if my life would be better or worse if I was never told that I have ASD. Like I might have eventually considered myself normal and actually acted normal. All of my supposed autistic traits can be externally explained by things that have happened. Like If for example if you’re entire family told you nearly every day that you have foot fungus whether or not you actually have it your feet would probably start to itch. I can’t help but wonder what people with ASPD would be like without the constant bombardment of “you don’t care about people” or “your a pathological liar” and “you’re hopeless”. I don’t know what that would accomplish or if it would make it worse, I just think there has to be a better way to deal with ASPD.
@@creamofthecrop6743 I can totally understand what you mean and even though I don't have ASD, I can personally relate to your struggles with meeting people, making friends and getting along in social settings. It's difficult when you're someone who's more introverted, as I am, too. Over the years and as I've gotten older, I've definitely gotten better with anxiety of people and social settings. It's hard for many folks with or without ASD, though. You are not alone. And I commend you for caring about all humans and wanting to find a way to help people with ASPD find a cure or a way to treat it. I think that makes you a worthwhile human being and definitely someone worth getting to know. You have a good heart. And I think someone, romantic or otherwise, will appreciate that quality in you. Also, don't forget that everyone has made dumb mistakes socially. No one is perfect and we all have had our moments where we over react or we maybe even under react and then regret not doing more. We've all been there so don't feel badly about that. I also think you have a very fair point when you say that you wish you hadn't had your diagnosis constantly reminded or thrown in your face, so to speak. You wouldn't have developed some sort complex about being ASD. If I could give some unsolicited advice, I'm not sure how old you are, but the older I get, the more I realize that no one is without flaws, everybody has struggles they deal with and I would even venture to say that a large percentage of people struggle with their mental health in one form or In other words, we are all a bit weird, strange, and unique. Our quirky qualities are what make us unique, though. We're all weird in our way but that's what makes us special. It sounds corny, but it's the truth. And I'm not sure where you land on the spectrum but you converse wonderfully through text so I would guess you'd have the same capacity or the same potential to do so in real life. You seem like a genuine person, a kind person and an intelligent person as well. I just wanted to share that with you and let you know that because I know what it's like to feel a little bit "less then" and insecure.
I agree, Amy. People with this disorder love to say that people without ASPD or NPD are capable of harming people, as if pointing out the unique ways in which people with those particular cluster b personality disorders can cause harm somehow comes with a distinct statement that people without those disorders aren't capable of causing harm, it just makes no sense. But that's what they hear I guess. And it's obvious that the person being interviewed is trying to manipulate her, because that's what people with that disorder are capable of. The so called "stigma" of those kinds of disorders didn't just spring up out of nowhere, nor is it the result of some kind of conspiracy against people with those disorders, nor is it fueled by misinformation regarding those disorders. I think everyone knows by now that most sociopaths aren't the violent, murdering stereotypes we see in movies. Mostly people's knowledge of them in 2022 is based upon being the victim of some variety of mistreatment by these individuals in interpersonal relationships. Pointing that out isn't discrimination, nor is it "stigma", it's just stating the facts. And if people with those disorders are offended or feel stigmatized by that, good. They SHOULD feel bad about those facts, and it should fuel them to live differently if they have the capacity to. It's not society's job to soften the way we speak about the kind of (well documented) harm people with these disorders can do in relationships in order to make them feel more comfortable with having the disorder. Not when there's such a high chance of manipulation from these individuals in social settings to get what they want from people. They don't have an inner compass to know right from wrong from a place of empathy in how to treat people, just imagine if they had a considerably less wary collective at their disposal, with a bleeding heart naivete regarding these disorders to take advantage of. I honestly think this is exactly what so many want when they complain about "stigma". If anything that "stigma" should act as a guideline as far as what behaviors are and aren't acceptable for them if they honestly wish to do better.
I hate to break it to you but watching fire does not indicate someone has ADHD. There seems to be some confusion here but ADHD isnt even remotely close to ASPD. ASPD is learned or caused by environmental. ADHD is neurodevvelopmental.
Hi! You're right, watching fire is not an indicator of ADHD. I remember reading that there can be some causes to ADHD other than inheriting it. This includes being born prematurely, parents fighting a lot around the child, and over exposure to screens during development.
@@danikassander8612 You are right in that ADHD can be the result premature birth, smoking. But thats environmental causes through the mother before birth. Other than brain injury, ADHD is something you are born with. Aspd may have a genetic component but is caused after birth due to ones environment.
@@danikassander8612 Hi Dani, I may be reacting for my own personal reasons because my experience with someone with ASPD was so damaging. While I do understand its not a choice I have ADHD and so the idea that the 2 are similar makes me feel defensive. I apologize. I have seen so many people act like ADHD is a behavioral issue instead of a neurological issue I feel this need to change that concept.
@@SLKnoxx that totally makes sense. And thank you for saying that. I see from the comments other people have had negitige experiences with people with ASPD, and the person having ASPD doesn't excuse what the person did to you. Nobody deserves to be treated badly regardless of what diagnosis the person doing the mistreatment has. ADHD is certainly a struggle, and comes with an entirely different set of challenges than ASPD. It makes sense to feel uncomfortable that the two would be considered parallel by some, as they are so vastly different and especially with your experiences specifically.
It becomes dangerous lack of empathy, if the person doesn't feel the sorrow of others or guilt or shame, it means they can be capable of great evil and feel no empathy for the one doing it unto. Something is wrong spiritually in that case, as empathy is a spiritual thing more than anything physical, a persons kindness of heart is not something learned or developed in experiences, some of the kindest of people went through hellish experiences, yet still retain the light of their conscience. Evil does not feel remorse or guilt, or empathy for the victim of it actions, and it seeks to avoid the consequence of those actions, ultimately it is self serving. If a person is a sociopath, they must not act on their own minds, for it will betray them but seek spiritual aid from God, that they may come to know the light and leave darkness, for light is were empathy comes from on a spiritual level, it is the inter-connectivity of spiritual resonance this is why it can be felt at times even other peoples emotions. If ye do not know why looking after other people is the right thing and a good thing, it is ultimately a spiritual reason and means ye are in darkness, which leads only unto sorrow and pain for price of your selfish pursuits.
You are incorrect on a few points. Good and evil are subjective and they depend on justification. for example: murder is seen as "evil" yet a solider, a mother protecting her child or an animal hunting is not seen as an evil act. We eat and kill living creatures all the time yet these are not evil acts. They are acts of service and survival. hence the justification and subjectiveness. When a president sends troops to kill in a war....Is he evil? Some child just died within 200 mi of you....Yet you live your life as normal. You smile and things that make you happy, you live w/o a single care about something that doesn't affect you. Does this not show a lack of empathy? Yes we are capable of great evil....so are you? It all depends on the circumstances. (single mother, solider) The difference between you and me is that I do not see think in a hypocritical sense. (I do not mean this in an insulting way. Just in a sense of the actual definition of the word) I do not believe murder is wrong because there are instances where is not wrong. If something is only wrong 60% of the time then it is not wrong at its core. an example is: The sun is made of water. This statement is wrong 100% of the time. another one. "good" people are incapable of "bad" deeds. This is also 100% wrong. I must not act on my "evil" thoughts no more than you should act on yours. Empathy is not a spiritual thing. No more than depression is. To say it is not something learned or developed is an ignorant statement that ignores hundreds of thousands of hours of research and studies that prove that it is. You are telling me only seeking god can give you access to empathy? That is saying the entirety of bhudism has no empathy....Hinduism....Jewish....you get where I am going with this?
@@poisonwilliams What has been spoken is the truth, there is no good without God. Any good any other believe systems have still comes from God even if they do not know it. All mankind are found evil and in need of redemption and salvation, for only God is good, and mankind are but different degrees of evil, or would not support a society such as they live now. Was it not said ye being evil know how to give good gifts... Thou has taken personally my comment when it was spoken generally to all it apply too. Ye know not were my knowledge came from, if ye think Murder is ok when it was commanded 'thou shall not murder' ye do not understand the consequences that follow it. Self defense is not the same, to answer your question on war it is a evil, but self defense can be justified at times, but war itself is evil. Ye assume I do not care about that person miles away ye know not my life. I care about your soul for example or would not reply, nor do you know what or whom I may be or what authority of truth I may hold. What I have told ye is how ye can obtain empathy yes, even some in this world use rituals to silence the empathy of conscience that they may continue into greater evils, this is part of what occurs in rituals in Satanism. Ye must be careful if empathy is something ye are lacking, if ye do not feel right or wrong properly or understand good and evil, it is a dangerous path. And if thou seeks the Light it will aid ye, prayer and fasting is the answer for the spirit of God can rebirth any soul whom would seek it. Those like ye are not condemned unless act upon the evils that come to mind, the world going to get easier to do so for it will darken, that is why ye and those whom seek aid must do so before too late.
@@Maji777111 self defense is a justification....nothing more. You can not obtain empathy as an adult. Either you have it or you don't. This is fact. I am telling you as a person who doesn't have it. As a person who has been a part of studies to see if it is possible. God is not all good. "for I am a jealous god" Jealousy is not an act of goodness. All powerful..yes.. all good...no. For even he has murdered, has had people murdered and has had people murder. You just spoke about me assuming your life...and what you do and dont do....yet you are doing the exact same to me. Is this not hypocritical. You are using religion as an excuse for your ignorance and lack of willingness to understand. You are not trying to understand. Just saying god "WilL Fix YOu" I can not be fixed. For I am not broken. I am just different. I am no more capable for doing evil acts as you are. We both have access to weapons. We both have the ability to think evil thoughts. We both have the ability to be judgmental There is no difference. I just have different reasons for doing those things.
Psychopaths and sociopaths are not necessarily narcissistic. Believing so, is a common myth in the psychology community. Antisocial can also be more accurately thought of as anti-narcissistic. That's why Narcissism is most triggering to psychopaths out of all other mental illness besides perhaps dissociative disorders... 🧩🐉🦉 Narcissism is a social ability, antisocial implies a lack of social skills, hence the aggressive nature.
I was diagnosed very young, (too young for modern tastes in psychology), as having a psychopathic PD. I didn't know this back then. I find narcissists absolutely infuriating, and clash with them constantly. My preference now that I'm older and more self aware, is to live a very small life, but fill it with ongoing projects such as growing all my own veg and using a highly eclectic variety of youtube channels to learn about the wider world and have some sort of non-threatening social life that does not require me to get close to people, but still discuss subjects of interest. I am much more of a sociopath, childhood was spent with a narcissistic mother, (as a result of her strict calvinist upbringing), and a father who allowed her to behave how she did. She did not know how to express love, and I now know that it is not her fault, or my fathers fault that he is how he is. So now that they are 87 and 89, one with vascular dementia and one undergoing treatment for cancer, I'm their main carer and get real satisfaction from looking after them better than they looked after me. I'm not saying they don't frustrate me and I don't get pissed off, but I don't give in to my urge to take them to task. The part about people pleasing, and why, really resonated with me.
@@justsomebloke6784 weird im very similar, maybe you have Autistic Psychopathy, im not sure if i do but i have struggled with alot of the same issues. My mom actually just got a temporal lobe brain tumor and my dad is also developing dementia... Strange... 🧩🧘♀️☺️
@@Sensei_Sean Yeah, adequately weird...many autistic people have told me that I come across with many features of autism, and having read extensively on the subject I think it's quite likely. Also I've heard it said that autism and personality disorders go hand in hand, the result of unmet needs and failed relationships.
Sociopaths have a bad reputation for a REASON. Not experiencing guilt or remorse is NOT a small thing.
I feel like the interviewer is being willfully naïve
What are you basing this off of?
But they don't have a choice. They ended up that way from early childhood trauma. No one chooses to be a sociopath. It's a psychological disorder.
@Buttercup-vw2zo This interview was to help destigmatize sociopathy and help people get a better understanding of what ASPD is and what causes it. It is still understandable to be guarded around someone who has difficulty experiencing empathy. We all have every right to keep ourselves safe and choose who we spend our time with. The person who I interviewed is a friend, and has supported me in a multitude of ways, and for that I am grateful. This person also has not done anything to break my trust in them. My trust, for me personally, builds for people over time, and can easily be taken away. I have been naïve in my past and trusted the wrong people, but I continue to grow and learn ways to protect myself. I care for myself in this way with anyone regardless of a diagnosis. I gauge people based on their actions, not their label, and that is a philosophy I hope this video can promote and perpetuate.
This is like listening to someone talking about my life. When I have to be around many people on a constant basis, my internal state becomes very confused because I'm trying to fit with all the different personalities around me, and everyone ends up pissed off with me. One to one, is more comfortable as I can concentrate on one set of needs more successfully. People always seem to think that I know what I have done to upset them, so without feedback there is no learning. And so on it goes from failed interaction to failed interaction.
Edit: As a result of masking, I became a talented actor because I was used to re-mixing my character on a moment to moment basis anyway. I also enjoyed knowing exactly what was going to happen for all the time I was on stage.
That's impressive you were able to turn something that hinders you into something constructive that you genuinely enjoy! I hope you are able to find the right group of peers who are understanding and kind. It took me a long time to learn to make friends. Watching the RUclips channel Charisma On Command helped me a lot.
Poison, thank you so much for your honest answers to these questions. I am learning so much about sociopaths. You sound like a great guy!!
He is a great friend. Thanks for your comment! He's been a huge help in helping me to succeed in my journey as a twitch streamer, and he's a pleasure to be around.
thank you! I try to act in a way that makes people comfortable.
@@danikassander8612 You need to be very careful here, because sociopaths generally don't care about anyone. They ACT like they care. They are very good at it. They manipulate so that they look like they're your friends but they really aren't. You need to find real friends. People that can give you what you give them. This statement and everyone saying what a good person this man is, was disturbing. He's not. He's acting. I have been through hell and back my entire life and I made the choice to care about other people. We all have that choice. No one's back story is an excuse for them shutting off their emotions and having no empathy for others. I went through absolute hell because I chose to do what you did and allow someone that told me that he had anti-social personality disorder into my life, because I felt bad for him and he seemed like such a good guy he always went above and beyond to help me. This man sounds EXACTLY like the one I was dealing with. A virtual carbon copy. It was all fake. The entire time, he was working against me, trying to sabotage my life etc. While smiling in my face, bringing me gifts, fixing things and acting like the sweetest person in the entire world. RUN AWAY FROM ANYONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE REAL EMPATHY. Do not let someone like that into your life. Never let them have any control over anything of yours. DON'T become dependant. They like that, and will try to do everything for you. It will be your undoing if you allow it. Don't allow him to manipulate you and I can see that this is what's happening and I didn't see it until it was too late in my own life. It's their job to fix their own problems and they are the only ones that can. One day that carefully constructed mask will slip and you don't want to be there to see that. True evil, is what I saw. Someone that listened to me cry and knew how bad things were for me, and he was purposely trying to make things worse for me. I started noticing that he would hum and whistle whenever I would cry, whenever he saw me happy he was miserable. It was cruel and sadistic. You need to be very careful and keep all this in mind. Never forget that you are NOT dealing with a normal, healthy individual. Just because he seems like he cares about you, that doesn't mean that he does.
@@andreaanonymous5474 I'm really sorry that that all happened to you and it's understandable where you are coming from. And it was brave of you to share your story, especially since talking about those things isn't easy. Thank you for checking in and also for typing this out out of concern for me. I don't wanna say anything negitive about my friend, but please know I have a lot of really great people in my life and a lot of support.
How this showed up on my feed idk, but I’m happy for choosing to watch/listen. This was such an informative interview in a lot of area’s.
Especially as a person diagnosed w adhd, it was elating to hear him share that we’re enthralled by watching fire and have never heard anyone verbalize it before. Throughout my life I’ve been criticized and called weird for doing that, but it’s soothing like watching a Jackson Pollock painting. I feel vindicated for that, and if it happens again I can point to this video. Hah.
Anyhow, thank you.
I'm so glad this helped! I have ADHD as well, and I did a few streams on it. You might like my video called "How To Cope With ADHD." It helped me a lot and I hope it can help you too :)
I said the same thing! I have no idea why this came up in my auto play feed today. I've never seen this chick before, nor have i watched this type of video. I'm not mad at all though, it's been fascinating and I listened to the whole video. 🇺🇲🙃💜💚
@@oneluckygirlandherdog Omg thank you so much for the kind words! 😊💙I used to post these twice a week but life's been crazy. My mom and I are EMTs who responded to a plane crash, and I'm going to interview her on being an EMT for the last several decades on my next stream, and do a Q&A if you wanna join in in chat with everyone ^-^
I did a test to my psychiatrist demand. It's called the Hare test. I got 31. It's not sociopathy. It's ASPD, psychopathy. I don't know what they will do.
@SurnaturalM Sharing your experience here took a lot of courage. It makes sense to be unsure how your doctors will proceed. While they may present a treatment plan, medication options, and/or psychotherapy options, it's important to remember you have autonomy over what happens to you. You get a say in how you choose to proceed, and you deserve to have those choices respected. Best of luck in your healing journey, and feel free to reach out any time for support 🧡
Me too is a feminist movement, but it is not meant to be only for women. It is meant to be a solidarity movement for any and all victims of sexual abuse and harassment. It makes me sad to hear that Poison did not feel welcome to be a part of that.
You're right, and that's a great point. I will pass this along to Poizun. I'm sure he'll appreciate hearing your empathy for his situation. It's really great to see so many comments where people are looking past his ASPD and be able to empathize with him. I understand why some wouldn't, but nonetheless I appreciate what you said.
Fully interesting, authentic, and educational. Thx
Thank you! Glad to hear it was helpful 😊
Hi Dani. Love your content. And……subscribed 👍
I totally agree with him about need to introverted beacuse having to be around people a lot is draining
how calculating this dude is has me rolling. 24 mins into and i was sad, but once it got to the *cute* thing, and him studying his dog, I cant help but to laugh. Its interesting that he is always choosing how he wants people to feel. I do not think as hard at all in my day to day life. It came natural because i was always an emotional child. i didnt show emotions to others, but i was a deep feeler as a kid. it has alot to do with the land before time and bambi.
You brought up an interesting point....that you do not think hard, it just comes naturally. Is this the same for everyone?(the majority) I wonder if it's my brain trying to make up for something that it lacks....I am going to think more on this.
When you say "calculating" I am curious to know more about what you mean
masking is when u dont just move ur face to look like a certain type of emotion, its when u act like u have that emotion via facial expression, tone of voice, choice of words and etc.
exactly! I shows in your body posture, your tone of voice even in the vocabulary you use.
Bee stings aren’t always your fault. When I was a kid one flew into the back of my head and got caught in my hair I tried to get it out pretty much reactively and it stung my finger. I didn’t even know it was a bee or a wasp and I still don’t know what did it I never saw it. Even if I somehow didn’t try to get it out of my hair It might have stung the back of my head. Rattlesnake’s don’t always rattle, you don’t always know you’re stepping on a beehive and I think it’s important to accept and understand that some things are out our control.
i love that analogy and plan to steal it. sorry not sorry lol
@@poisonwilliams what exactly?
@@creamofthecrop6743 bee stings are not always your fault
@@poisonwilliams I just noticed you’re the guy in the video. That’s a statement though, an analogy would be more along the lines of “Not getting stung by the bee that flew into the back of head would be like dodging rain drops in a thunderstorm.”
If a person is willing to put the work in to be better despite their illness, that's the important thing. Self-improvement, medication, therapy, and self-reflection are important. Not all people with ASPD are good people. But they aren't all inherently bad either.
I was diagnosed with aspd and the mask is not Just about using the proper social facial expressions to show emotion emotion or false emotion to keep the other person engaged it's also the way you act and who you are it's not just your face is masked a lot of people think that but it's not the case it's everything
That makes sense. Yeah I never took his masking to be disingenuous, and I appreciate his efforts. I wish you the best of luck in your journey through coping with ASPD, and thank you for sharing your experience.
The false self or mask is the thing I've had the hardest time wrapping my head around.
truth! Facial expressions are just easier to demonstrate and explain.
@@johnnycassell4338 what do you mean?
42 seconds in & I'm bouncing... The use of 'uh' has me literally closing out the entire app to make it stop
I have ASPD and I almost can never say it because people think I will hurt them. Hollywood and videos of "professionals" talking about how we shouldn't live have really affected people. I feel lost.
?? Your feelings are hurt because society intentionally warns the world about people with ASPD- they manipulate, they don't care about peoples wellbeing or feelings. This whole interview was this guy discussing how he learns from others how to behave in order to get what he wants.
Thank you for opening up here about what you're going through. That took a lot of strength, and you do not deserve to be treated as less than for having ASPD. What those people do not understand is that ASPD is indicative that you've experienced tremendous trauma, and your brain has created a numbness from emotions as a coping mechanism. You are worthy of kindness and respect. Anyone who tries to make you feel otherwise is not worth your time.
Also, this is anecdotal, but you may find comfort knowing I have several friends that I've known for years who have ASPD. I'm grateful to have these friendships, and they have all made a positive impact on my life.
Amy B With all due respect, Amy. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
People with ASPD are either that way due to severe trauma or they were born like that. Either way, It's not their fault and it's not something that they chose. I am what would be considered a sociopath so I wasn't born like that. There is a way to heal me and that is through unconditional love as I feel a strong sense of loyalty and duty. Yes, I will never be "normal" or have the emotions that an average person has but that doesn't mean I want to go around manipulating people. People actually disgust me and I would love to stay away from them as much as I can.
There are ways to "heal" sociopaths and as for psychopaths, It's a bit harder but it can be done. Just not through vanilla methods. I know there has to be a way.
I would also like to tell you that while we lack conscience and laugh at emotional people, We feel a lot of anger, Melancholy, Joy, Etc. Just in episodes and short bursts rather than it being a constant. There is no such thing as a human being like an emotionless stone. That's not how it works. Never did. Never will. That's the movie business and it's not a representation of society like you said. It's a bunch of pretentious middle-aged hipsters who read two books and think they understand the world.
Dani Kassander Thank you, That's what I'm trying to explain to the commentator above you who is attacking me for no reason lol.
I was severely beaten, Abused, Emotionally manipulated and threatened with death since I was 4. I also grew up poor in Cairo, Egypt and I am still poor in Cairo, Egypt. That's a 3rd world country if you didn't know. Nobody knows what it's like growing up poor in the middle-east. A life unfit for insects. I didn't choose that. I'm proud of my ethnicity and heritage obviously but I didn't choose the conditions I was born in. Not a lot of people know what it's like to have your mother chase you around with a knife for example or to see people getting killed or to inhale tear gas and have tanks and armored vehicles in the street. Nobody knows what it's like to be non-binary and bisexual in Egypt. I can get killed if I came out.
I remember the time I started developing sociopathic behavior and that was around 9. When I actually transitioned into one was when I was 15. I was getting seriously beaten everyday in school for 2 years non-stop. The teachers here can break a rib too. So students and teachers beat me. I was crying furiously everyday until one night, I just started laughing and the pain turned into an unbelievable amount of anger, Hate and violence that I still hold to this day. It's gotten much heavier over time.
I apologize for the long comment but I had to explain because I am so done with people on the internet who grew up in western suburbs dismissing someone like me as a cartoon villain. I am good at controlling myself through intense training but someone else with ASPD might get his anger and hate fueled even more by comments and videos of people saying people with ASPD shouldn't live meanwhile they're not perfect themselves. Nobody is perfect but nobody is helping each other. I hate this world.
I am really surprised you had this conversation over VOIP, but you didnt address the possibility that interactions are easier when doing over something like Discord, since you dont have to show your face.
That's a great observation. Poizun, the person I am interviewing, is a friend of mine IRL and we've talked face-to-face on numerous occasions even before this interview. He has explained to me that while he has learned how to successfully do "masking" (making his face more expressive of emotions so that a listener can know he is engaged with what they are saying) it does get very tiring after a while. Even in a voice call he makes efforts to put inflections in his voice, but it is less emotionally taxing than combining this with facial queues.
You mean antisocial personality disorder (ASPD)
sociopath and pycopath are out dated terms
Thank you for your comment! You're totally right, the new term is more fitting. I titled the video with the term "sociopath" because more people are familiar with this term, and I wanted this video to attract people who were less familiar with the disorder so that they could learn more about it and hopefully the interview could serve to remove the stigma behind the disorder.
@@danikassander8612 I understand 👍
Are you taking any medication to help manage your condition?
Are you asking me or Poizun? I'm not sure if he's taking anything, but I'm taking medication for my own mental health. I know one thing he does is Poizun has always stayed sober though in order to have control of himself, which I greatly respect.
no, I was taking mood stabilizers like abilify
Dani, I had to go after the first 30 seconds because of your ums and uhs. I highly recommend trying to get that under control. It takes away from your content, I think, and feels very sloppy to me, especially in the face of such a serious topic.
Yeah. I think the pressure comes from it being live, I get anxious if I take too long to finish loading a thought becsuse I want to prevent having more than a few seconds of dead air, but I'll try to be more conscious of it
disingenuous say it with me .... dis.in.gen.u.ous. Thank you, peace out.
Did I say disingenuine in the video? When I replied to one of the RUclips comments trying to spell that word spell check was like "yo idk what the fuck you're trying to say" and it took me like 3 minutes and a Google search to learn I've been saying it wrong all this time lmao. I finally learned to say "anecdote" instead of "antidote" too haha
"You will never see a person more focused, with ADHD, than they are when sitting in front of a fire".
Can confirm.
Nope. NOT True. You, personally might do this, but its not an ADHD common symptom.
@@SLKnoxx ok
@@SLKnoxx *sigh* I was just making a general joke. ADHD is not that easy to diagnose....we all know this. It is just a general commonality. Like saying all white people sunburn.....this isnt a true statement nor does it mean you can tell someone is white by their ability to sunburn.
@@poisonwilliams ok. Joke. Cool. I don't see where I responded to you so whatever was said, its all good.
@@SLKnoxx.... Im literally the person who said the comment in the video
Exclusionary
Hello, can you please tell me what you mean?
@@danikassander8612 Just being a word nerd
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P.S. I would love to interview your guest!
You confuse sociopathy with psychopathy.
It is my understanding that psychopathy is something people are born with, and sociopathy is something that people develop as a response to trauma as a means to protect themselves. My friend in this interview was clinically diagnosed with ASPD/sociopathy. If there is something I am misunderstanding or a part where I misspoke please let me know and I will be sure to correct it in the description. Thank you for your input, it is appreciated.
Sociopathy and psychopathy both fall under the umbrella of Antisocial Personality Disorder. Like other personality disorder, ASPD is a spectrum, some may be on the low end, in the middle, or on the high end.
@@dare2bdifferent1 thanks for the clarification! Very well put
Neither of them are clinically recognized terms that we officially use.
The truth still stands that ppl with ASPD tend to act impulsively, are manipulative to those around them, can be harsh and cruel to those around them, can be very callous with no regard to the feelings of others, and often become criminals who break laws that yes, could include violent crimes. This disorder can't be cured and it's dangerous to attempt to get people close to these individuals or harbor some sort of empathy for them. This entire interview could have been an attempt to manipulate the interviewer. This interview was actually really gross, honestly.
1-3% of people are sociopaths or psychopaths 15-25% of people in prison are sociopaths or psychopaths. I’m not exact on the percentages but the point is that people without ASPD are still very capable of violent crimes and cruelty. Of course there’s undiagnosed cases to worry about. (My grandma thinks it’s 30-40% of people, which is absurd but unfortunately 30% of the people she’s been close to exhibited aspd she’s just incredibly unlucky.) and going back to prison the statistics don’t separate violent crimes from over punished drug possession. Unfortunately vast majority of prisoners are just drug offenders and sticking anyone in a big cage with more dangerous people for even a month will almost ensure that they come out a worse person. It’s interesting that some people that experience trauma will not develop aspd and some will. Trauma will permanently damage anyone experience it one way or another and I think aspd is essentially an emotional death state as it’s irreversible just like bodily death.
@@creamofthecrop6743 Yes, of course, we are all imperfect human beings and capable of hurting others to some capacity. But "normal" people and not normal I mean people without ASPD, I know in truth no one is free of at least some sort of mental health struggle. But anyway. People without ASPD do not go through life manipulating for personal gain, conning others for personal gain, steal without any sort of guilt. These examples are from the National Institute of Health website and are a criteria for diagnosis of ASPD via the DSM-5: "Deceitfulness, repeated lying, conning others for pleasure or personal profit. Irritability and aggressiveness. Often with physical fights or assault. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others. Lack of remorse. Indifferent to or rationalizing of having hurt or stolen from another person."
So, my point is that normal, nonviolent people do not engage in these behaviors. If someone does engage in these types of behaviors, without influence of alcohol, drugs or a disorder like schizophrenia present, they may very well be a sociopath or psychopath aka ASPD. I do agree this diagnosis is akin to a death sentence as there is a poor prognosis, it can not be cured and there's not a medication to treat this with. There's no cure for having no conscience, unfortunately. And folks who lack a conscience with undoubtably be toxic and will manipulate and will look out for themselves first and only. And that is dangerous. Even if they may not be particularly physically violent, they're not someone you want to befriend or worse, involve yourself romantically with. I'm sorry to say this, but I'm only speaking from a clinical perspective and am trying to warn the masses. And people who are very empathetic and kind are most at risk when it comes to these individuals. I do not think they are inhuman monsters. I know they experience a range of emotions. They just don't care about anyone else's emotions. This whole interview was a manipulation attempt because if the person were being honest at all, they would have cited the real, true behaviors that are necessary for diagnosis.
As a normal individual with a conscience, I do think this is a sad life because these impedes these individuals abilities to form any sort of real, true bond with another human being. It takes a heart to really truly have a loving, healthy relationship, even a platonic one. So in that way, I feel very sad for anyone with this diagnosis. At the same time, we have to be careful of these individuals, especially if they aren't receiving any sort of mental health help, which if I'm not mistaken, statistically, most do not reach out for any professional help. It's a sad truth of reality and I'm not trying to dehumanize anyone and I'm only one person, I don't have all the answers. But I will not hesitate to warn people to please be careful around these individuals for your own well being and safety. For example, they would not feel badly about assaulting you and taking your money if they knew they could get away with it.
Please be careful out there, folks. Many many victims have been harmed by individuals who would meet criteria for this disorder. Please look after yourselves and your loved ones.
@@amyb7823 it’s a total land mine and I definitely recommend keeping your distance and paying attention to what people ask of you and how often. For a sociopath they would much rather talk you into giving them something than try to take it by force they’re aware of consequences and how to avoid them. And unfortunately therapeutic techniques you would use on some without ASPD can validate sociopaths bad behaviour. And the guy didn’t mention anything super negative about himself or what he’s done. But I think diagnosing and using more specialized therapy as soon as possible is the best method. I have minor ASD (it nothing to do with ASPD) or at least I’ve been told that since I have was eight and I’m horribly adjusted with depression and social anxiety I have no job and one IRL friend and I’m very fortunate for that. But meeting and maintaining any new friendships is difficult I pretty much brow beat myself thinking these people hate me and I know they don’t but it still feels like they really do. Because I keep a shit list of all the times I’ve dropped the metaphoric ball or thrown it back too hard in social setting. I honestly wonder if my life would be better or worse if I was never told that I have ASD. Like I might have eventually considered myself normal and actually acted normal. All of my supposed autistic traits can be externally explained by things that have happened. Like If for example if you’re entire family told you nearly every day that you have foot fungus whether or not you actually have it your feet would probably start to itch. I can’t help but wonder what people with ASPD would be like without the constant bombardment of “you don’t care about people” or “your a pathological liar” and “you’re hopeless”. I don’t know what that would accomplish or if it would make it worse, I just think there has to be a better way to deal with ASPD.
@@creamofthecrop6743 I can totally understand what you mean and even though I don't have ASD, I can personally relate to your struggles with meeting people, making friends and getting along in social settings. It's difficult when you're someone who's more introverted, as I am, too. Over the years and as I've gotten older, I've definitely gotten better with anxiety of people and social settings. It's hard for many folks with or without ASD, though. You are not alone. And I commend you for caring about all humans and wanting to find a way to help people with ASPD find a cure or a way to treat it. I think that makes you a worthwhile human being and definitely someone worth getting to know. You have a good heart. And I think someone, romantic or otherwise, will appreciate that quality in you. Also, don't forget that everyone has made dumb mistakes socially. No one is perfect and we all have had our moments where we over react or we maybe even under react and then regret not doing more. We've all been there so don't feel badly about that.
I also think you have a very fair point when you say that you wish you hadn't had your diagnosis constantly reminded or thrown in your face, so to speak. You wouldn't have developed some sort complex about being ASD. If I could give some unsolicited advice, I'm not sure how old you are, but the older I get, the more I realize that no one is without flaws, everybody has struggles they deal with and I would even venture to say that a large percentage of people struggle with their mental health in one form or In other words, we are all a bit weird, strange, and unique. Our quirky qualities are what make us unique, though. We're all weird in our way but that's what makes us special. It sounds corny, but it's the truth. And I'm not sure where you land on the spectrum but you converse wonderfully through text so I would guess you'd have the same capacity or the same potential to do so in real life. You seem like a genuine person, a kind person and an intelligent person as well. I just wanted to share that with you and let you know that because I know what it's like to feel a little bit "less then" and insecure.
I agree, Amy. People with this disorder love to say that people without ASPD or NPD are capable of harming people, as if pointing out the unique ways in which people with those particular cluster b personality disorders can cause harm somehow comes with a distinct statement that people without those disorders aren't capable of causing harm, it just makes no sense. But that's what they hear I guess. And it's obvious that the person being interviewed is trying to manipulate her, because that's what people with that disorder are capable of. The so called "stigma" of those kinds of disorders didn't just spring up out of nowhere, nor is it the result of some kind of conspiracy against people with those disorders, nor is it fueled by misinformation regarding those disorders. I think everyone knows by now that most sociopaths aren't the violent, murdering stereotypes we see in movies. Mostly people's knowledge of them in 2022 is based upon being the victim of some variety of mistreatment by these individuals in interpersonal relationships. Pointing that out isn't discrimination, nor is it "stigma", it's just stating the facts. And if people with those disorders are offended or feel stigmatized by that, good. They SHOULD feel bad about those facts, and it should fuel them to live differently if they have the capacity to. It's not society's job to soften the way we speak about the kind of (well documented) harm people with these disorders can do in relationships in order to make them feel more comfortable with having the disorder. Not when there's such a high chance of manipulation from these individuals in social settings to get what they want from people. They don't have an inner compass to know right from wrong from a place of empathy in how to treat people, just imagine if they had a considerably less wary collective at their disposal, with a bleeding heart naivete regarding these disorders to take advantage of. I honestly think this is exactly what so many want when they complain about "stigma". If anything that "stigma" should act as a guideline as far as what behaviors are and aren't acceptable for them if they honestly wish to do better.
I hate to break it to you but watching fire does not indicate someone has ADHD. There seems to be some confusion here but ADHD isnt even remotely close to ASPD. ASPD is learned or caused by environmental. ADHD is neurodevvelopmental.
Hi! You're right, watching fire is not an indicator of ADHD. I remember reading that there can be some causes to ADHD other than inheriting it. This includes being born prematurely, parents fighting a lot around the child, and over exposure to screens during development.
@@danikassander8612 You are right in that ADHD can be the result premature birth, smoking. But thats environmental causes through the mother before birth. Other than brain injury, ADHD is something you are born with. Aspd may have a genetic component but is caused after birth due to ones environment.
@@SLKnoxx Yes the premature part is the "nature" side of it, but the last two I said are on the "nurture" spectrum.
@@danikassander8612 Hi Dani, I may be reacting for my own personal reasons because my experience with someone with ASPD was so damaging. While I do understand its not a choice I have ADHD and so the idea that the 2 are similar makes me feel defensive. I apologize. I have seen so many people act like ADHD is a behavioral issue instead of a neurological issue I feel this need to change that concept.
@@SLKnoxx that totally makes sense. And thank you for saying that. I see from the comments other people have had negitige experiences with people with ASPD, and the person having ASPD doesn't excuse what the person did to you. Nobody deserves to be treated badly regardless of what diagnosis the person doing the mistreatment has. ADHD is certainly a struggle, and comes with an entirely different set of challenges than ASPD. It makes sense to feel uncomfortable that the two would be considered parallel by some, as they are so vastly different and especially with your experiences specifically.
It becomes dangerous lack of empathy, if the person doesn't feel the sorrow of others or guilt or shame, it means they can be capable of great evil and feel no empathy for the one doing it unto. Something is wrong spiritually in that case, as empathy is a spiritual thing more than anything physical, a persons kindness of heart is not something learned or developed in experiences, some of the kindest of people went through hellish experiences, yet still retain the light of their conscience. Evil does not feel remorse or guilt, or empathy for the victim of it actions, and it seeks to avoid the consequence of those actions, ultimately it is self serving.
If a person is a sociopath, they must not act on their own minds, for it will betray them but seek spiritual aid from God, that they may come to know the light and leave darkness, for light is were empathy comes from on a spiritual level, it is the inter-connectivity of spiritual resonance this is why it can be felt at times even other peoples emotions.
If ye do not know why looking after other people is the right thing and a good thing, it is ultimately a spiritual reason and means ye are in darkness, which leads only unto sorrow and pain for price of your selfish pursuits.
You are incorrect on a few points. Good and evil are subjective and they depend on justification. for example: murder is seen as "evil" yet a solider, a mother protecting her child or an animal hunting is not seen as an evil act. We eat and kill living creatures all the time yet these are not evil acts. They are acts of service and survival. hence the justification and subjectiveness.
When a president sends troops to kill in a war....Is he evil? Some child just died within 200 mi of you....Yet you live your life as normal. You smile and things that make you happy, you live w/o a single care about something that doesn't affect you. Does this not show a lack of empathy?
Yes we are capable of great evil....so are you? It all depends on the circumstances. (single mother, solider)
The difference between you and me is that I do not see think in a hypocritical sense. (I do not mean this in an insulting way. Just in a sense of the actual definition of the word) I do not believe murder is wrong because there are instances where is not wrong. If something is only wrong 60% of the time then it is not wrong at its core. an example is: The sun is made of water. This statement is wrong 100% of the time. another one. "good" people are incapable of "bad" deeds. This is also 100% wrong.
I must not act on my "evil" thoughts no more than you should act on yours. Empathy is not a spiritual thing. No more than depression is. To say it is not something learned or developed is an ignorant statement that ignores hundreds of thousands of hours of research and studies that prove that it is.
You are telling me only seeking god can give you access to empathy? That is saying the entirety of bhudism has no empathy....Hinduism....Jewish....you get where I am going with this?
@@poisonwilliams What has been spoken is the truth, there is no good without God. Any good any other believe systems have still comes from God even if they do not know it. All mankind are found evil and in need of redemption and salvation, for only God is good, and mankind are but different degrees of evil, or would not support a society such as they live now. Was it not said ye being evil know how to give good gifts...
Thou has taken personally my comment when it was spoken generally to all it apply too. Ye know not were my knowledge came from, if ye think Murder is ok when it was commanded 'thou shall not murder' ye do not understand the consequences that follow it. Self defense is not the same, to answer your question on war it is a evil, but self defense can be justified at times, but war itself is evil. Ye assume I do not care about that person miles away ye know not my life. I care about your soul for example or would not reply, nor do you know what or whom I may be or what authority of truth I may hold.
What I have told ye is how ye can obtain empathy yes, even some in this world use rituals to silence the empathy of conscience that they may continue into greater evils, this is part of what occurs in rituals in Satanism. Ye must be careful if empathy is something ye are lacking, if ye do not feel right or wrong properly or understand good and evil, it is a dangerous path. And if thou seeks the Light it will aid ye, prayer and fasting is the answer for the spirit of God can rebirth any soul whom would seek it. Those like ye are not condemned unless act upon the evils that come to mind, the world going to get easier to do so for it will darken, that is why ye and those whom seek aid must do so before too late.
@@Maji777111 self defense is a justification....nothing more. You can not obtain empathy as an adult. Either you have it or you don't. This is fact. I am telling you as a person who doesn't have it. As a person who has been a part of studies to see if it is possible.
God is not all good. "for I am a jealous god"
Jealousy is not an act of goodness. All powerful..yes.. all good...no. For even he has murdered, has had people murdered and has had people murder.
You just spoke about me assuming your life...and what you do and dont do....yet you are doing the exact same to me. Is this not hypocritical. You are using religion as an excuse for your ignorance and lack of willingness to understand.
You are not trying to understand. Just saying god "WilL Fix YOu" I can not be fixed. For I am not broken. I am just different. I am no more capable for doing evil acts as you are. We both have access to weapons. We both have the ability to think evil thoughts.
We both have the ability to be judgmental There is no difference.
I just have different reasons for doing those things.
What about atheists who feel empathy? I am not religious, yet I feel empathy for people.
Psychopaths and sociopaths are not necessarily narcissistic. Believing so, is a common myth in the psychology community. Antisocial can also be more accurately thought of as anti-narcissistic. That's why Narcissism is most triggering to psychopaths out of all other mental illness besides perhaps dissociative disorders... 🧩🐉🦉 Narcissism is a social ability, antisocial implies a lack of social skills, hence the aggressive nature.
Wrong
Way way off.
I was diagnosed very young, (too young for modern tastes in psychology), as having a psychopathic PD. I didn't know this back then. I find narcissists absolutely infuriating, and clash with them constantly. My preference now that I'm older and more self aware, is to live a very small life, but fill it with ongoing projects such as growing all my own veg and using a highly eclectic variety of youtube channels to learn about the wider world and have some sort of non-threatening social life that does not require me to get close to people, but still discuss subjects of interest.
I am much more of a sociopath, childhood was spent with a narcissistic mother, (as a result of her strict calvinist upbringing), and a father who allowed her to behave how she did. She did not know how to express love, and I now know that it is not her fault, or my fathers fault that he is how he is. So now that they are 87 and 89, one with vascular dementia and one undergoing treatment for cancer, I'm their main carer and get real satisfaction from looking after them better than they looked after me. I'm not saying they don't frustrate me and I don't get pissed off, but I don't give in to my urge to take them to task.
The part about people pleasing, and why, really resonated with me.
@@justsomebloke6784 weird im very similar, maybe you have Autistic Psychopathy, im not sure if i do but i have struggled with alot of the same issues. My mom actually just got a temporal lobe brain tumor and my dad is also developing dementia... Strange... 🧩🧘♀️☺️
@@Sensei_Sean Yeah, adequately weird...many autistic people have told me that I come across with many features of autism, and having read extensively on the subject I think it's quite likely. Also I've heard it said that autism and personality disorders go hand in hand, the result of unmet needs and failed relationships.