Logan likes people who tells him either directly or indirectly that his time is done like Josh, Mecken and Mattson for example because he likes honesty. Meanwhile, none of his kids dare to say it right on his face. Even Kendall who has on and off relationship with him still feeling remorse and guilty. Logan said that Kendall is not a killer even though he accidentally killed someone. The killer that Logan mentioned is someone who takes the risk and someone who brutally honest which Tom takes the criteria.
I feel like Ken's shame over the murder is exactly what makes him "not a killer" in Logan's eyes. If Logan had done the same (and he likely has at least once) he'd have played it off as an NRP (Not a real person). He wouldn't have the guilt weigh on him.
Tom wasn't a killer though, Tom was a puppet who got lucky. He won because he was a puppet and got on the right people's good graces. Even after he became CEO, he was still a puppet to a random scammer, who was the real killer.
@@knurdyob Tom has some killer moments: -He kicked out Nate on his wedding after learning of Shiv's affair with Nate -When Shiv mocked him with Roman and Tabitha about him being an empty suit, Tom told her to shut up -He confronted Shiv about their Open Relationship -He ate Logan's chicken -He offered himself to be in prison for cruise scandal -He double crossed Shiv by telling about the siblings' plan to take down Logan -He answered Mattson's interview with humility and honesty even he doesn't care that Mattson wants to fuck Shiv
Being a killer was about unapologetically sacrificing one's humanity for the sake of the business. No remorse, just the literal killer instinct. - Kendall demonstrated he wasn't a killer when he left work to be at Logan's birthday in s1. - Matsson demanded Logan meet him on the day of Connor's wedding. Then he demanded Ken & Roman meet him on a business retreat to talk business shortly after Logan's death. Matsson was a killer. - Tom sold out Shiv & her brothers to Logan at the end of S3 which improved his standing with Logan. Then he missed Logan's funeral due to work which Matsson noticed while at Logan's funeral. Tom wasn't sleeping because he was busy working for the election night chaos. He took the deal with Matsson similar to how he made a deal with Logan. Tom proved himself to be a killer.
@@knurdyob Exactly, Matsson was the killer there. Willing to twist knives, lie, etc. And willing to completely falsify data to make money, just like Logan was clearly fine with given he made the equivalent of Fox.
What Mencken says about ATN is more or less true of Fox News (and cable news as a whole) in today's world. Pretty much no one under the age of 50 watches anymore
@@RightWingRadioShow Yep! Also if you look closely there are a bunch of times where tickers/scrolling captions appear, from momentary glimpses during mid episode scenes all the way to regularly appearing during the intro. A lot of them are deliberate references to real Fox headlines, usually especially outlandish ones lol.
@@JB-xl2jc young people recognise that these elections are useless, nothing will change or improve, the old folk need to realise this, and break their delusion.
Really shows her laziness. She's never even working at the company, even there's one episode when she's lying on the bed and looking at her laptop. The closest thing when we see her working was on Season One when she was still a Political Consultant.
@@margarethmichelina5146 nothing about saying she does not want to read Plato when a raging neo nazi is telling her to read shows she is lazy. That is also not true, we see Shiv working 🤦♀️ get a grip
@@mimir3702She’s pretty lazy and entitled. She thinks she should be the head of a major publicly traded media company despite having no business, finance, media, or legal experience.
@@sharpe52312 ALL of the Roy children are very entitled like did we not watch the same show??? Logan was willing to give her the position even with her lack of experience and took her under his wing. She would have probably gotten all the experience she needed if Logan wasn’t a narcissist who can’t stand it when his children are successful.
Shiv always thought she was so much smarter than she actually was but in the grand scheme if things she was wrong about everything. Even politics, her supposed area of "expertise," she blundered again and again throughout the show. She never wanted to put the work in. Very unlikable character.
She the liberal elite. She thinks anyone who doesnt think like her is stupid. Its a common trait. Lower classes feel ignored so go for the more extreme populists now.
Is that Donald Blythe
Yes it is
Best comment!
I thought the same thing 😂
Logan likes people who tells him either directly or indirectly that his time is done like Josh, Mecken and Mattson for example because he likes honesty. Meanwhile, none of his kids dare to say it right on his face. Even Kendall who has on and off relationship with him still feeling remorse and guilty. Logan said that Kendall is not a killer even though he accidentally killed someone. The killer that Logan mentioned is someone who takes the risk and someone who brutally honest which Tom takes the criteria.
I feel like Ken's shame over the murder is exactly what makes him "not a killer" in Logan's eyes.
If Logan had done the same (and he likely has at least once) he'd have played it off as an NRP (Not a real person). He wouldn't have the guilt weigh on him.
Tom wasn't a killer though, Tom was a puppet who got lucky. He won because he was a puppet and got on the right people's good graces. Even after he became CEO, he was still a puppet to a random scammer, who was the real killer.
@@knurdyob Tom has some killer moments:
-He kicked out Nate on his wedding after learning of Shiv's affair with Nate
-When Shiv mocked him with Roman and Tabitha about him being an empty suit, Tom told her to shut up
-He confronted Shiv about their Open Relationship
-He ate Logan's chicken
-He offered himself to be in prison for cruise scandal
-He double crossed Shiv by telling about the siblings' plan to take down Logan
-He answered Mattson's interview with humility and honesty even he doesn't care that Mattson wants to fuck Shiv
Being a killer was about unapologetically sacrificing one's humanity for the sake of the business. No remorse, just the literal killer instinct.
- Kendall demonstrated he wasn't a killer when he left work to be at Logan's birthday in s1.
- Matsson demanded Logan meet him on the day of Connor's wedding. Then he demanded Ken & Roman meet him on a business retreat to talk business shortly after Logan's death. Matsson was a killer.
- Tom sold out Shiv & her brothers to Logan at the end of S3 which improved his standing with Logan. Then he missed Logan's funeral due to work which Matsson noticed while at Logan's funeral. Tom wasn't sleeping because he was busy working for the election night chaos. He took the deal with Matsson similar to how he made a deal with Logan. Tom proved himself to be a killer.
@@knurdyob Exactly, Matsson was the killer there. Willing to twist knives, lie, etc. And willing to completely falsify data to make money, just like Logan was clearly fine with given he made the equivalent of Fox.
What Mencken says about ATN is more or less true of Fox News (and cable news as a whole) in today's world. Pretty much no one under the age of 50 watches anymore
Yeah, ATN is a pretty clear Fox stand in from the very start, all the way down to some of the "talking heads" practically being one to one.
People over 50 always vote though. Voter turnout in youth is embarrassingly low.
@@JB-xl2jcand all the female anchors being blonde.
@@RightWingRadioShow Yep! Also if you look closely there are a bunch of times where tickers/scrolling captions appear, from momentary glimpses during mid episode scenes all the way to regularly appearing during the intro. A lot of them are deliberate references to real Fox headlines, usually especially outlandish ones lol.
@@JB-xl2jc young people recognise that these elections are useless, nothing will change or improve, the old folk need to realise this, and break their delusion.
shiv was so real for saying she doesn't want to read plato
Really shows her laziness. She's never even working at the company, even there's one episode when she's lying on the bed and looking at her laptop. The closest thing when we see her working was on Season One when she was still a Political Consultant.
@@margarethmichelina5146 nothing about saying she does not want to read Plato when a raging neo nazi is telling her to read shows she is lazy. That is also not true, we see Shiv working 🤦♀️ get a grip
@@mimir3702She’s pretty lazy and entitled. She thinks she should be the head of a major publicly traded media company despite having no business, finance, media, or legal experience.
@@sharpe52312 ALL of the Roy children are very entitled like did we not watch the same show??? Logan was willing to give her the position even with her lack of experience and took her under his wing. She would have probably gotten all the experience she needed if Logan wasn’t a narcissist who can’t stand it when his children are successful.
WHO THE FUCK wants to read plato like c'mon
Menchen was lucky he worked Roman
Shiv always thought she was so much smarter than she actually was but in the grand scheme if things she was wrong about everything. Even politics, her supposed area of "expertise," she blundered again and again throughout the show. She never wanted to put the work in. Very unlikable character.
She the liberal elite. She thinks anyone who doesnt think like her is stupid. Its a common trait. Lower classes feel ignored so go for the more extreme populists now.
Detect the trump lover
@@johnhenry4844 lefty actually. Just not naive.
@@johnhenry4844 What?? Lol
In quote of Tywin Lannisters:
"I don't trust you just because you are a woman, I don't trust you because you are not as smart as you think you are."
Great actor
what is this a deleted scene?
I remember seeing this scene, can’t remember the episode unfortunately
@@EziopctS3E6
Nope and the episode is season 3 episode 6
This show is fucking horrible
Best show ever made not even close
@@יהונתןאטיןit’s good but you need to watch more shows fam.
@@benjaminb6678 like what give me recommendations
what shows do you think are good then?
@@benjaminb6678 like what