A good cheap mod is a battery operated, motion sensor closest light that can be stuck on top in the inside giving you an automatic light as soon as you open it. Some of them are fairly bright too.
Weight is not the reason for reduction in fuel economy. It's aerodynamics. Those boxes only hold 100-150 lbs. You dont see a difference in fuel economy when you have 1 extra person
He also mentioned that usually if you have to load up the box, the other space in car is filled with people and more stuff. That could easily be an additional 300-500lbs or more.
Hello Charles, this is the Yakima CBX Cargo box! If you are interested, in the top right corner of our rackattack.com site there is a location finder to locate our store nearest to you
@@rackattack Thanks for the response! Is there any way to tell if this is the CBX 16 or 18? Or do they both fit equally well on the Chevy Tahoe?
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I don't necessarily think that it's the weight that impacts range/economy most. I did a test yesterday with an empty car and empty box on the roof and saw an increase of about 15% in fuel economy.
Hello. We wanted to highlight the impact of the added weight of the box contents, the extra passengers and gear in the vehicle since this is usually not considered at all when calculating the fuel/range economy. Thanks!
It really isn't the weight, it's the wind resistance. Weight matters when accelerating, but for longer drives like road trips the additional weight does very little. And that includes additional passengers. 2 ppl plus luggage or 5 ppl plus luggage makes very little difference. However a empty roof box alone will add 10-15%
Weight impacts fuel economy very little compared to frontal area, aerodynamic details, weather, and SPEED. It does affect other people more than me, though, because 95% of the population has the tires inflated to the number on the car's door jamb, or less. Car makers love recommending tire pressures way lower than my own preference. They love tires to wear out, because it gives a "smooth ride" plus brings you into the shop for early tire wear, which is not even a warranty issue for them. It's been moderated a little by their desire for good EPA mpg numbers, so at least most recommend pressures in the 30s (psi) now. I'm a mechanical engineer, and the first thing I do is put all 4 tires at the "max psi" number on the sidewall. Only if that causes a handling problem, do I reduce it partway back toward spec. Some tires do cause overly fast/twitchy handling at max psi if the car isn't loaded down heavy. But many don't, and it becomes a win on mpg, handling, tire life, tire temperature, ground clearance, and a bunch of other things.
Question We have one and did multiple trips and on some trips when we reach a certain speed (65-70) it tends to bounce. Does this mean I got too much weight? or just not arrange right? Or is it just the wind? Now when it bounce it’s just the front tip and I got the lightest bags there. Thank You
I just bought a Yakima Grand tour "lo", I can't get it open LOL I can unlock it and it pops up a little bit but it's super hard to lift the lid, it feels like it stuck somewhere. I'm not sure if that's because it's very long (91") and it's hard to lift it in a balanced way (?). I don't want to force it and risk damaging the supports. I left a message with the dealer but haven't heard back yet so I thought I would check RUclips while I'm waiting 🙂
Is it safe to go beyond 75 pounds of storage weight when you have a panoramic sunroof? I have a 23 Ford Explorer and we are hesitant to buy A roof rack container because our owners man has 75 pounds as the maximum but the roof rack itself is at least half of that weight.
The size will depend on the vehicle it is being placed on, as we want to make sure the crossbars are compatible and if there is a hatch it won't hit the cargo box. If you give us a call or find your local Rack Attack at rackattack.com we will gladly find the correct size for you!
Everyone talks about the weight limit of these boxes and racks. It's not the weight per se but the lateral forces that impact their stability. Many of the cheaper cross bars that claim 150lb limit cannot handle a 150lb box if the car is rocking side to side. They are certainly not for off-roading.
Hello. Correct, they're not intended for off-road use. We do off the ROAM cases and their associated roof rack brackets. These cases are ideal for heavy-duty applications and off road use: www.rackattack.com/cargo-boxes/roam-rugged-case-95l-black/ Thanks!
The lawyers would go nutzo if anyone said yes to putting a gas can into what is basically an oven on to of a vehicle filled with cute little children on vacation. They don't want to even guess what a jury would award if there are photos of children going up in flames because a cargo box broke, leaked, or built up fumes in it and exploded when a phone also in the box rang, kaboom. It's a box, probably black and 200 degrees inside, probably going 80mph if not 90. If you really want gasoline in that box, it's a free country. You could always testify that you thought it was better up there than strapped to the bumper or hitch, where someone could smash into it. And you'd have a point, there isn't really a good, safe place to randomly stash a 5 gallon can of gas where nothing bad can happen.
I totally disagree about putting the key on the same key ring as your ignition key. You are trading the risk of losing your cargo box key or doing something wrong with your cargo box, into a risk of losing your car key, or becoming a carjacking target, or not being able to escape an approaching creepy person until you get your cargo box perfectly latched. It is RIDICULOUS to allow someone to prevent you from driving away, just by them keeping you from perfectly closing all the latches on a finicky cargo box. So, I think that bit of advice is terrible. I get why they do the box-key entrapment trick as a "feature" of the box, even if I disagree with that feature. It's to cover their ass and provide evidence that the box wasn't closed when it flies open on the road, so they don't get sued. Don't turn the box company's box key entrapment trick into also being a car-key entrapment putting you in actual danger of being immobile while in the vulnerable and extremely visible position of having your cargo box open. As just one example, someone could stick anything from a ski pole to a 2x4 into an open end of the box, or simply pull/snap the lid over the hinge side, and they have you trapped and unable to retrieve your car key and drive away. You'd be there trying to spin your key ring to retrieve the car key.
@@lindasue8719 Your solution is how I deal with my Dutch ebike with the "Café Lock" style of keying where you cannot walk away if the lock isn't set. I have a small snap clip that I separate from the primary key ring in this situation
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A good cheap mod is a battery operated, motion sensor closest light that can be stuck on top in the inside giving you an automatic light as soon as you open it. Some of them are fairly bright too.
Weight is not the reason for reduction in fuel economy. It's aerodynamics. Those boxes only hold 100-150 lbs. You dont see a difference in fuel economy when you have 1 extra person
I disliked his video when I heard his bs on the weight is the major factor.
He also mentioned that usually if you have to load up the box, the other space in car is filled with people and more stuff. That could easily be an additional 300-500lbs or more.
This is such a big help, thank you.
You're very welcome!
Great suggestions!thank you 😊
Thanks 👍😊 helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
Looks great! Which Yakima model is this?
Hello Charles, this is the Yakima CBX Cargo box! If you are interested, in the top right corner of our rackattack.com site there is a location finder to locate our store nearest to you
@@rackattack Thanks for the response! Is there any way to tell if this is the CBX 16 or 18? Or do they both fit equally well on the Chevy Tahoe?
I don't necessarily think that it's the weight that impacts range/economy most. I did a test yesterday with an empty car and empty box on the roof and saw an increase of about 15% in fuel economy.
Hello. We wanted to highlight the impact of the added weight of the box contents, the extra passengers and gear in the vehicle since this is usually not considered at all when calculating the fuel/range economy. Thanks!
It really isn't the weight, it's the wind resistance. Weight matters when accelerating, but for longer drives like road trips the additional weight does very little. And that includes additional passengers. 2 ppl plus luggage or 5 ppl plus luggage makes very little difference. However a empty roof box alone will add 10-15%
Weight impacts fuel economy very little compared to frontal area, aerodynamic details, weather, and SPEED. It does affect other people more than me, though, because 95% of the population has the tires inflated to the number on the car's door jamb, or less. Car makers love recommending tire pressures way lower than my own preference. They love tires to wear out, because it gives a "smooth ride" plus brings you into the shop for early tire wear, which is not even a warranty issue for them. It's been moderated a little by their desire for good EPA mpg numbers, so at least most recommend pressures in the 30s (psi) now. I'm a mechanical engineer, and the first thing I do is put all 4 tires at the "max psi" number on the sidewall. Only if that causes a handling problem, do I reduce it partway back toward spec. Some tires do cause overly fast/twitchy handling at max psi if the car isn't loaded down heavy. But many don't, and it becomes a win on mpg, handling, tire life, tire temperature, ground clearance, and a bunch of other things.
Question
We have one and did multiple trips and on some trips when we reach a certain speed (65-70) it tends to bounce.
Does this mean I got too much weight? or just not arrange right? Or is it just the wind?
Now when it bounce it’s just the front tip and I got the lightest bags there. Thank You
Buffeting. Ask any motorcyclist. You can move the box forward or back to change the airflow. But, the only way is to slow down.
I think you meant to say recommended inflation vs maximum inflation. If people look at the maximum inflation on the tire, that would be too much?
I just bought a Yakima Grand tour "lo", I can't get it open LOL I can unlock it and it pops up a little bit but it's super hard to lift the lid, it feels like it stuck somewhere.
I'm not sure if that's because it's very long (91") and it's hard to lift it in a balanced way (?). I don't want to force it and risk damaging the supports.
I left a message with the dealer but haven't heard back yet so I thought I would check RUclips while I'm waiting 🙂
Hi. Which yakima model is this?
Are these tips for the hard of thinking?!!
Is it safe to go beyond 75 pounds of storage weight when you have a panoramic sunroof? I have a 23 Ford Explorer and we are hesitant to buy A roof rack container because our owners man has 75 pounds as the maximum but the roof rack itself is at least half of that weight.
User manuals are always lying, you can easily triple the weight.
I wouldn’t risk it.
the roof rack or thule - does it need a permit in Canada or US?
Hello. No legal permit is required for a roof top box in the US or Canada. Thanks!
@@rackattack noted. thanks again
You have this box mounted near the passenger side vs centered. Why?
Probably so the gear can reached easier. Sometimes people will do this to leave room for an awning or bike racks on the other side also.
what size model ?
The size will depend on the vehicle it is being placed on, as we want to make sure the crossbars are compatible and if there is a hatch it won't hit the cargo box. If you give us a call or find your local Rack Attack at rackattack.com we will gladly find the correct size for you!
Everyone talks about the weight limit of these boxes and racks. It's not the weight per se but the lateral forces that impact their stability. Many of the cheaper cross bars that claim 150lb limit cannot handle a 150lb box if the car is rocking side to side. They are certainly not for off-roading.
Hello. Correct, they're not intended for off-road use. We do off the ROAM cases and their associated roof rack brackets. These cases are ideal for heavy-duty applications and off road use: www.rackattack.com/cargo-boxes/roam-rugged-case-95l-black/ Thanks!
Would it be okay to store a Jerry can / gas can in the box during a road trip?
Hello. Thanks for checking, no, do not carry a Jerry can or gas can inside a cargo box. Thanksl
The lawyers would go nutzo if anyone said yes to putting a gas can into what is basically an oven on to of a vehicle filled with cute little children on vacation. They don't want to even guess what a jury would award if there are photos of children going up in flames because a cargo box broke, leaked, or built up fumes in it and exploded when a phone also in the box rang, kaboom.
It's a box, probably black and 200 degrees inside, probably going 80mph if not 90.
If you really want gasoline in that box, it's a free country. You could always testify that you thought it was better up there than strapped to the bumper or hitch, where someone could smash into it. And you'd have a point, there isn't really a good, safe place to randomly stash a 5 gallon can of gas where nothing bad can happen.
Annnnd this is why there are warning labels on shampoo bottles. No, do not attach a bomb to the top of your car. C'mon man.
I totally disagree about putting the key on the same key ring as your ignition key. You are trading the risk of losing your cargo box key or doing something wrong with your cargo box, into a risk of losing your car key, or becoming a carjacking target, or not being able to escape an approaching creepy person until you get your cargo box perfectly latched.
It is RIDICULOUS to allow someone to prevent you from driving away, just by them keeping you from perfectly closing all the latches on a finicky cargo box. So, I think that bit of advice is terrible.
I get why they do the box-key entrapment trick as a "feature" of the box, even if I disagree with that feature. It's to cover their ass and provide evidence that the box wasn't closed when it flies open on the road, so they don't get sued. Don't turn the box company's box key entrapment trick into also being a car-key entrapment putting you in actual danger of being immobile while in the vulnerable and extremely visible position of having your cargo box open.
As just one example, someone could stick anything from a ski pole to a 2x4 into an open end of the box, or simply pull/snap the lid over the hinge side, and they have you trapped and unable to retrieve your car key and drive away. You'd be there trying to spin your key ring to retrieve the car key.
Given the unique situation, maybe it would be best to have the box key on a separate hook from the other keys so it can be removed separately.
@@lindasue8719 Your solution is how I deal with my Dutch ebike with the "Café Lock" style of keying where you cannot walk away if the lock isn't set. I have a small snap clip that I separate from the primary key ring in this situation
Tips and tricks... god damn man, the content bar has fallen.