As far as I can remember, he talked about a website that has pictures of codes and master called them geniuses. My question is about a website that has pictures of codes where we could use it on report .
Hi Ben, I noticed in the video, Paul's illustration on dimensioned receptacle placement issues, that there is another receptacle not included in the violation zone sitting below the tub top that I would consider a safety concern with potential splashing of water from kids and adults . This is a case where even the codes may not cover an issue and a reason not to be overly focused on any specific code requirements.
It was more than a decade after the original arc faults were introduced before the combination arc faults came out so not sure that why he would say "immediate putting these things in houses… the breakers changed again" The combination breaker provides both parallel and series arc protection in the entire circuit while the original did not.
@@Allan11236 All of them. Safety is #1 priority. We want all inspectors to come home safe. So I approach a panelboard as unsafe, and that makes me think of and focus on being safe. At all times.
A lot of older homes have Aluminum NM cables, you don't need to rewire just because you have them. As long as conductors are sized to the breaker rating, have "nolox" applied, they are fine. I noticed a kitchen graphic with outlets in the pantry, the pantry outlets don't have to be spaced every 4 ft as the kitchen counters do, because it's essentially a closet. They don't have to be gfci protected either for the same reason. Per the NEC.
We don't use aluminum wiring anymore. We use an aluminum alloy wire called AA 8000. AA 8000 does not require noalox. The NEC does not require the use of NOALOX.
The NEC doesn’t require it, but the panels/devices usually do. NEC says panel boards have to be listed, and anytime something is listed you have to follow manufacturer instructions
The inaccuracies and misinformation presented here is disappointing, and I’m being generous. I would be more than happy to discuss the content with the presenter, if the opportunity should arise. I have, over the last couple of days, viewed several videos by home inspectors and find a consistent lack of knowledge of the National Electrical Code (NEC).
I agree. We are not code inspectors. I don't expect home inspectors to know code. Ya see, there's a big difference between home inspectors and code inspectors. Code inspectors are all about the code book. Home inspectors are all about the homeowner's safety.
Mr. Gromicko..As an example, at approximately 7:45 during the presentation the gentleman states “ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE” you can’t paint the rusted dead front of the panel in the picture. It’s this type of information that is unfounded. Unfortunately, individuals with less NEC training than the presenter who view this video may/will take information like that and believe there is an actual NEC basis for that statement. The presenter would be well served to have someone who IS familiar with the NEC review his presentation for accuracy, before the presenting the material. I would be happy to sit through the entire presentation, with the presenter, and critique the content. Your statement that “code inspectors are all about the code book” followed by “home inspectors are all about the homeowner’s safety” is nonsense. Codes, particularly the electrical code, are about safety. The purpose of the electrical code, as stated in Article 90.1 is “the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity”.
He is wrong about the grounds and neutrals being seperated. If there is a bar not connected to the neutral, that is what the main bonding jumper is for. You only have to seperate them on sub-panels
Yeah, the (Fred) question was basically why are the ground and neutral bonded at the main panel and not the sub panels, and he actually does not answer the question.
@@BenGromicko yes it is the conduit coming down in into top of panel is not a violation of the NEC as long as you dont over fill the raceway. They allow for that, so I say it again need to find another master electrician. Yes some panels have hex head screws installed from manufacture. Any aluminum installed after the 1980' s is not required by the NEC to have deox. Its an aluminum alloy. I know you are not code enforcement but sure do refer to it alot.
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Thank you for video. on 50:20 the master mentioned the website. What was it? Can I have link?
That 50:20 is at the end of the video. So, I'm not sure what you're referring to.
As far as I can remember, he talked about a website that has pictures of codes and master called them geniuses. My question is about a website that has pictures of codes where we could use it on report .
On 32:37. What website master is talking about?
I think it's www.homeinspectornewsletter.com/.
I took all the GFCI crap out of my garage... ARC fault breakers are a money grab period!!!
Okay. Good luck with that lack of GFCIs.
Thank you for making this video, great information and educational.
Glad it was helpful!
#4 rebar is to listed as a grounding electrode according to the NEC.
Gotcha.
some ground/neutral bars are rated for two wires
What website he is referring on 32;37
Not sure.
Hi Ben, I noticed in the video, Paul's illustration on dimensioned receptacle placement issues, that there is another receptacle not included in the violation zone sitting below the tub top that I would consider a safety concern with potential splashing of water from kids and adults . This is a case where even the codes may not cover an issue and a reason not to be overly focused on any specific code requirements.
Good catch, Tony. Right.
It was more than a decade after the original arc faults were introduced before the combination arc faults came out so not sure that why he would say "immediate putting these things in houses… the breakers changed again" The combination breaker provides both parallel and series arc protection in the entire circuit while the original did not.
Thank you so much for your comments.
Wow. Why would I pay an inspector to stare at the circuit breakers without opening the panel? Lol.
I can do that myself.
There are some electrical panelboards that are not safe to open up by removing the dead front cover.
@@BenGromicko What type of panel boards are unsafe to open by removing the dead front?
@@Allan11236 All of them. Safety is #1 priority. We want all inspectors to come home safe. So I approach a panelboard as unsafe, and that makes me think of and focus on being safe. At all times.
A lot of older homes have Aluminum NM cables, you don't need to rewire just because you have them. As long as conductors are sized to the breaker rating, have "nolox" applied, they are fine.
I noticed a kitchen graphic with outlets in the pantry, the pantry outlets don't have to be spaced every 4 ft as the kitchen counters do, because it's essentially a closet. They don't have to be gfci protected either for the same reason. Per the NEC.
Nice catch! You should be a home inspector.
Also need to make sure devices are rated to accept AL wiring, most receptacles and stuff aren’t and will need copper crimps for the terminations
We don't use aluminum wiring anymore. We use an aluminum alloy wire called AA 8000. AA 8000 does not require noalox. The NEC does not require the use of NOALOX.
Right.
The NEC doesn’t require it, but the panels/devices usually do. NEC says panel boards have to be listed, and anytime something is listed you have to follow manufacturer instructions
Rebar can be used as a ground. Can't sugar coat it this guy is just wrong.
Thanks for the comment.
In Illinois a home inspector is only liable for what he sees!
Correct, Joe. If there's a major defect, but it can't be observed or wasn't observed, then it's not going to appear in the report.
Are carbon monoxide detectors required if all appliances are electric and there is no gas on the property?
That's what IRC code suggests.
Don't forget that an attached garage can be a contributing factor.
thank you!
You're welcome!
The inaccuracies and misinformation presented here is disappointing, and I’m being generous. I would be more than happy to discuss the content with the presenter, if the opportunity should arise. I have, over the last couple of days, viewed several videos by home inspectors and find a consistent lack of knowledge of the National Electrical Code (NEC).
I agree. We are not code inspectors. I don't expect home inspectors to know code. Ya see, there's a big difference between home inspectors and code inspectors. Code inspectors are all about the code book. Home inspectors are all about the homeowner's safety.
Mr. Gromicko..As an example, at approximately 7:45 during the presentation the gentleman states “ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE” you can’t paint the rusted dead front of the panel in the picture. It’s this type of information that is unfounded.
Unfortunately, individuals with less NEC training than the presenter who view this video may/will take information like that and believe there is an actual NEC basis for that statement. The presenter would be well served to have someone who IS familiar with the NEC review his presentation for accuracy, before the presenting the material.
I would be happy to sit through the entire presentation, with the presenter, and critique the content. Your statement that “code inspectors are all about the code book” followed by “home inspectors are all about the homeowner’s safety” is nonsense. Codes, particularly the electrical code, are about safety. The purpose of the electrical code, as stated in Article 90.1 is “the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity”.
@@BenGromicko the code book is design for personnel safety and protection of property. So you should know code,.
He is wrong about the grounds and neutrals being seperated. If there is a bar not connected to the neutral, that is what the main bonding jumper is for. You only have to seperate them on sub-panels
Thanks for the reply.
Yeah, the (Fred) question was basically why are the ground and neutral bonded at the main panel and not the sub panels, and he actually does not answer the question.
Electrical is what I keep tripping on. Great video, thank you!!!
You and me both!
If you keep tripping take a break! 😄
I am sorry this guy need to get a new master electrician, stop giving false info on the NEC.
Ah, so sorry you feel that way. The NEC is a great resource and very clear and specific on its content, for sure.
@@BenGromicko yes it is the conduit coming down in into top of panel is not a violation of the NEC as long as you dont over fill the raceway. They allow for that, so I say it again need to find another master electrician. Yes some panels have hex head screws installed from manufacture. Any aluminum installed after the 1980' s is not required by the NEC to have deox. Its an aluminum alloy. I know you are not code enforcement but sure do refer to it alot.
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On 32:37. What website master is talking about?
I think it's www.homeinspectornewsletter.com/. Then click subscribe.
@@BenGromicko Thank you very much for replies . Should we give reference picture of CODEs on reports?