Zeiss-Ikon Nettar 515/2 - let's shoot 100+ MP like our forefathers did :)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • Hey! In this video, I'm shooting the Zeiss-Ikon Nettar 515/2. It was an affordable amateur camera from a different era - but it's also an astonishing high-resolution monster today!
    0:00 Intro
    0:59 What are Zeiss-Ikon folding cameras?
    1:59 About this Zeiss-Ikon Nettar 515/2
    3:23 Loading film
    5:40 In your hand: how everything works
    7:46 On the way ... taking pictures
    9:46 No double exposure lock ...
    10:08 User error - beware!
    10:55 Night shots & 140 MP scans!
    12:22 What I don't like
    13:14 How to pronounce Zeiss
    13:39 The lens
    14:50 After you finished the film
    15:18 Verdict
    17:20 Outro
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    All photos shown here were taken on Agfa APX 100 black&white film and were scanned using a Fuji X-E3 camera and Olympus macro lens.
    Whenever it says "24 MP at 4k" or "140 MP at 4k" in the video, those are 100% crops ... if you watch the video in 4k!
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    Here's where I develop my film:
    www.kontrastlab.de​
    (This is no affiliate link or anything like that. I'm just very happy there's still a dedicated analog development & printing service in Cologne!)
    My instagram:
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    My photo & camera gear blog:
    tomscameras.wordpress.com​
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    Many thanks for Takahiro Oda for filming! Visit his channel here:
    / @takahirooda
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    Score:
    Vespers - Topher Mohr and Alex Elena
    Pina Colada - Silent Partner
    Six Seasons - Unicorn Heads
    (all available via RUclips Audio Library)
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  • @donaldlampert331
    @donaldlampert331 2 года назад +8

    I really love these German prewar folders…. I have many…. They are real classics!
    Fun to see you use yours, and some of your photos turned quite nicely! Thank you!

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Yes, actually I was pretty amazed about the quality, despite the basic three-element lens!

  • @brianeibisch6025
    @brianeibisch6025 Год назад +1

    It is amazing that these cameras made about eighty years ago … still work. My father gave me his old camera made in about 1952 in Germany. Everything is manual, no batteries, nothing. It is 35mm with a 10mm, 50mm focal length lens. You guess the distance, set the aperture, and approximate the shutter time. It does have a delay timer on it but that doesn’t work any more. Stunningly, in a little leather pouch on the leather strap was a yellowy/green filter for portrait work. All the family pictures of me and my brother, as young boys, were taken with this camera on slide film; decades later they were still good.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      What a nice story that you still have that same camera today, and that it still works (except the self timer)! What camera model is it?

    • @brianeibisch6025
      @brianeibisch6025 Год назад

      The camera is an AKA Rette with a double viewfinder, one for 50mm the other for 75mm. It is made of steel with a Schneider-Kreuznach lens 1:3,5/50 serial number 2721392. ISO (DIN) is 10, 25, 50, 100, and 200, that’s it. No 400 film available in those days. 13cm wide, 7cm high, 7.5cm deep including the lens affixed to the camera. Also has a tripod thread. Has a beautifully made leather encasing with leather strap and a little leather filter pocket on the strap. The sewing of the leather encasing is starting to fall to bits but I’m sure I could take it to somebody and have it fixed. It currently has Fujichrome Velvia 50 in it. This camera is so solid that you could use it as a weapon over someone’s kopf and it would still work. Cheers

  • @JeffStovall38
    @JeffStovall38 2 года назад +9

    Great informative video Tom. I'm looking for a 6x9 folder in good condition and your explanation of the various Ikonta and Nettar models is really helpful to understand the options that are out there.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Hey Jeff, many thanks for your feedback! I tried my best to give an overview without going too deeply into detail, because there are so many variants out there. So I'm glad to hear that I could provide some information that helps you!

  • @paraveterinary
    @paraveterinary 2 года назад +2

    A
    Thank you for this clear video. I just purchased one and can't wait to take the first photos.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! I hope you'll have a lot of fun with your camera!

    • @paraveterinary
      @paraveterinary 2 года назад

      @@tomscameras thank you!

  • @25myma
    @25myma 2 года назад +6

    Great, relaxing video as always Tom!!! Got a couple of folders and sometimes I take one on family days out as ONLY camera...it really makes you better knowing you only got 12 shots😎

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +2

      Oh that is a great idea! Only bring your folding camera and nothing else! I really have to try that as well :)

    • @25myma
      @25myma 2 года назад +2

      @@tomscameras yepp, most recommended, I usually get 3 or 4 keepers out of 12, with digital, sometimes nothing after 100s of shots😆

  • @photonik-luminescence
    @photonik-luminescence 8 месяцев назад +2

    Wow what a great camera ! I am happy to say that i own one of those folding type cameras. It's so weird to think that they were built around WWII. To think how old it is. In 20 years or so it's like 100. The image quality is awesome ! Zeiss really seems to be a great company for lenses. Although i am not into general photography (as i am a amateur astrophotographer), these cameras fascinate me.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  8 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, these old cameras are still fascinating and also give awesome results if you know how to deal with them! Zeiss also did some nice amateur telescopes that were awesome in the day. But they’re very expensive collectors items today!

  • @asdfasdfasdf12321
    @asdfasdfasdf12321 2 года назад +4

    This is the best video for this camera, thanks for making it so in depth! Would love to see some color results.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate it! And I do hope to do some color photo shooting in spring with this or maybe another of these old folders I have got here!

  • @hoomalimali6334
    @hoomalimali6334 2 года назад +1

    Hey Tom, I produced instructional videos at a university and yours is as good as it gets.
    I just found you on YT after digging out my old Nettar 515/2, the twin of yours.
    I wanted to see if anyone was still shooting/enjoying them and there you were.
    Thanks for this terrific segment. I will stay tuned from now on. Your new friend, Paul, out in VA.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Hey Paul! Thanks for your comment! I am very happy that you enjoyed my video. I love my Nettars. Also love the 6x6 ones just as well! Cheers to Virginia, Thomas

  • @therealchickentender
    @therealchickentender 2 года назад +2

    I"ve one nearly indentical to your that I dated specifically to war-time era made. Unfortunately have only put two rolls through it. The ancient self-timer ceased the shutter on the 4th or 5th time I used it which is sad but was a good lesson. :) Ah wel. I shoot with Franka Solida III and Frank Rolfix II most often however which is why I never tried to fix the Nettar - I enjoy the glass at the end of those more.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      When I got my Rolleicord, I was afraid to try out the self timer for a couple of weeks. 😀 Showed it to a camera collector friend and first thing he did is run the self timer ... I hold my breath but it did work, thankfully!
      If the self timer quits and bricks the camera, sometimes it can help to shake the camera or press (not too hard ...) with the hand from the side against the lens/shutter assembly. With a little bit it becomes unstuck. Same goes for sticky long shutter speeds.
      But yes if you've got similar folders like this with better lenses, why bother. It's kinda funny that there are still soooow many old folders out there!

  • @donaldcongdon9095
    @donaldcongdon9095 2 года назад +2

    Great video! Thanks. I love shooting 6x9 on my Kodak Medalist. I figured out that you had TWO cameras when I noticed there were two different red window styles. Neat that you got to use two models. Those old folders are fun.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Yes ... I took the part where I load the camera for the nightshots, not noticing that I had grabbed the other camera. In the end it's good, cause now I know they both work very well!
      Actually what I find especially amazing is that the leather bellows are still perfect after so many years.

  • @9595kerekes
    @9595kerekes 2 года назад +3

    Very nice! I am quite surprised how good a 3 element lens can be wide open. Also, you are very good at guessing the focusing distance, good job!

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +2

      Thanks! I often used aids to guess focus distance so I guess it is also a matter of practice. I find it's really hard at closer ranges but 10 or 20 metres is surprisingly easy (for me, at least). The lens is soft wide open for sure, but yes I agree, it's better than one would think!

  • @leonardomesa8851
    @leonardomesa8851 2 года назад +1

    Great review, ireceived my zeiss as a gift and thanks to this video, im looking forward for going out and try it out :)

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Oh, what a nice gift! I wish you a lot of fun trying it out!

  • @northof-62
    @northof-62 2 года назад +2

    Great shot at 0:50

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! It's the Museum for East Asian Art in Cologne!

  • @TonyWilliampianoman
    @TonyWilliampianoman 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Tom. Yes, I still have my father's stamped H 37041. Zeiss Ikon. All my childhood and family snaps. Some turned out brilliantly for my dad, others disappointingly. It really is pristine with brown case. I tried it back in early 90s with colour and about 65% ok. But the point I wish to make is there are two windows on the back so you can get 16 pictures; and my goodness I never knew about the little chrome stand. So my first project is to use my Pentax ME again, and then in better light buy an Ilford b/w and try the Zeiss again.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  7 месяцев назад

      I think the Pentax ME will be just perfect to try out analog, especially now in the autumn / winter season. My suggestion is to get an ISO 400 film for it. I wish you a lot of fun and hope you'll also enjoy trying out your father's Zeiss-Ikon eventually!

  • @pzkw10
    @pzkw10 4 месяца назад +1

    Congrats, schönes Video, das ermutigt mich, meine 515 auch mal wieder auszugraben, auf den Dom zu steigen und von da oben zu fotografieren😊

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  4 месяца назад

      Dankesehr - und viel Spaß mit der Nettar :)

  • @STAR0SS
    @STAR0SS 2 года назад +3

    I randomly became possessor of a Ikonta with a Tessar 10.5cm, I had to clean it up (the lens was very hazy), shot a film this week and sent it to the lab, excited to see how it comes out ! The rangefinder is really dark though, hard to shoot.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Congratulations to the Ikonta! Very cool camera! Maybe the rangefinder also needs a thorough cleaning, or inside one of the optical elements got "blind" a bit?
      I do agree that the old rangefinders are often no fun to use in general. That's a pity cause the folding camera concept is absolutely great!

  • @rogiervanoostrom6467
    @rogiervanoostrom6467 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very nice review. We found a nice Zeiss Ikon Netter (novar anastigmat) from my great grandmother, in very good condition. I'm going to try it out soon when I receive a separate range finder.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, very nice! The range finder will be a great help. If you find one, just make sure it's properly calibrated. It's of course an easy check!

  • @theoldfilmbloke
    @theoldfilmbloke 2 года назад +1

    Ganz WUNDERBAR ! What good condition for that Classic Camera -- and an f3.5 lens as well !

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Peter! I‘m a huge fan of your RUclips channel and so I’m very happy you enjoyed my video! 🤠

  • @Incandescentiron
    @Incandescentiron 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for posting. I have a Yashica C and appreciate the lightweight body. I like to take it biking and hiking. The folding camera would also save space. That would be fantastic. I'd really like to try one.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      I am now also shooting a Rolleicord Va (which is basically the same size and design as the Yashica C). Folding cameras are so much smaller yes!
      It is a little bit more hassle to operate them (because you have to unfold it every time ...) and the viewfinder is often really bad and basic. But for landscapes and hiking, maybe that does not matter so much. And the nice thing is, the pictures you get are just amazing!
      If you want to get "serious" I would always recommend to find a camera with a four-element lens like Zeiss Tessar etc.
      Did you see my review of the Voigtländer Perkeo II? That's a fantastic folder and it also has a four-element lens!

  • @PPISAFETY
    @PPISAFETY 2 года назад

    Hi Tom. I'm really enjoying your channel. Aside from having the same first name, ,we seem to have the same taste in cameras. Your last few videos have al been about cameras I own as well. I have a 6X6 Signal Nettar that I'm having a lot of fun with. I found a vintage Watameter rangefinder that adds a lot to the utility of this camera. My Nettar has the 75mm f/4.5 Novar Anastigmat, which I find to be sharp, but it does vignette strongly. When I shoot black and white I find it imparts an "antique" feel to my shots.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Hi Tom! Great to hear you own and enjoy these old cameras just as much! I also recently got two old rangefinder attachments, I have to give them a try as well. Yes the Anastigmats can be surprisingly sharp for what they are!

  • @michelemorris1748
    @michelemorris1748 Год назад

    Thanks, Tom, I enjoyed your video.

  • @thomaschipman
    @thomaschipman 2 года назад +1

    there is definitely something magical about 6x9 negatives.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      oh yes! Even compared to 6x6 ...!

  • @bryanhunt1148
    @bryanhunt1148 2 года назад +1

    A great video about these superb cameras. I have both Nettars and Super Ikontas from the 1930s. The Tessar lens in the Super Ikonta produces a superb image ; inha e the mask fitted so can take either 6 x 9 or 6 x 4.5 images. making it a bit more economical tonise

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback! I find 6x6 a nice compromise between awesome image quality and more economy - also the 6x6 format means you never have to change the camera from portrait to landscape which is very practical when used on a tripod :)
      I love Tessar lenses. I now also got the Voigtländer Perkeo II which has a similar four lens element design, it's also (I think single) coated, and the image quality is clearly better compared to the three element designs. That camera will be featured in my next video!

  • @hervedecaumia-baillenx7923
    @hervedecaumia-baillenx7923 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a Super Ikonta C 530/2 with Tessar Carl Zeiss Jena 10.5 f:4.5 and Compur-Rapid 1/400
    It take very nice photo with ilford Fp4
    i love this camera
    Hervé de Baillenx in France

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  7 месяцев назад

      Merci beaucoup, Hervé! The Ikonta with the Tessar is a very high quality camera. It should give sharper and more contrasty pictures than the Nettar, especially at the open apertures. I am happy you enjoy your Ikonta! Kind regards to France!

  • @skidown
    @skidown Год назад +1

    Excellent! Thank You!

  • @shinichihayakawa7619
    @shinichihayakawa7619 Год назад +1

    For what it's worth, the camera manufacturer, Zeiss Ikon, was a different company from the optics giant, Carl Zeiss. In the 1920s during great depression, many German camera manufacturers united to form a big strong company named Zeiss Ikon under the guidance of Carl Zeiss. Unlike Japanese counterparts, German camera manufacturers historically bought lenses from lens manufacturers. So Zeiss Ikon bought lenses from Carl Zeiss and other manufacturers, too.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Many thanks for adding this information!
      In the case of my Nettar, they even bought the lens from some "lesser" company, I think it is definitely not a Carl Zeiss lens. It's a pretty basic lens, even though it still can produce very detailed photos at least when stopped down.

  • @PremKumar-yf8jo
    @PremKumar-yf8jo Год назад +1

    I like folding Cameras very much, I have one folding camera of 120 roll film named as Super ikonta, coupled range finder, another is also Super Ikonta of 35 mm film Zeiss ikon.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Yes the Super Ikonta's were the top models of their time!

  • @fredlada1634
    @fredlada1634 Год назад +1

    Not gonna put a thumbs up, I’m gonna use this emoji instead 👌
    To prevent double exposure on my old Kinax folding camera after I shoot a picture I always wind on that way I’m never making a double exposure mistake.
    It’s an amazing camera, excellent review well done

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Thank you so much Fred. And yes, one needs to establish good habits when using these old cameras to avoid double exposures and such: But in the end, that's part of the fun!

  • @steveandthedogs
    @steveandthedogs 2 года назад +1

    I have a Zeiss, but cannot bond with it. However, Voigtländer and Balda folders I do like. Very much! For a compact folder try the Vito II - genuine shirt pocket size with Skopar lenses!

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Actually, I got the next best thing to a Vito II ... or maybe even better (for me): two Voigtländer Perkeo's :) ... hope to be able to shoot them very soon!

  • @edvardlenander6866
    @edvardlenander6866 2 года назад +2

    Watching this video after buying one at a flea market for 15 dollars. It is in good condition but the f6.3 version. Now I want the f3.5 😅

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +2

      If your camera works, 15 Euro is still a great deal! I reckon that if you shoot at f/11 or f/16, the quality of these lenses will be basically the same anyway. Enjoy your 6x9 Nettar! :)

    • @edvardlenander6866
      @edvardlenander6866 2 года назад

      @@tomscameras thank you Tom!

  • @SilntObsvr
    @SilntObsvr Год назад +1

    My scanner can pull about 240 MP out of a 6x9 negative. I can get 35 MP from a 10x14 mm negative out of a Minolta 16 or Mamiya 16 "spy" camera. Film still beats digital...
    Relative to "did I advance or didn't I?" the universal solution for this is *habit.* Establish a habit and *always stick to it,* either advance as you're setting up the camera for the next shot or, as I've done for the past half century, advance immediately after exposing (if you aren't planning for an intentional double exposure, that is).
    I've been carrying a 6x9 folder the last few days, a Moskva 5, which is an upgraded Soviet copy of that Super Ikonta 530/2 (coated Tessar type f/3.5 lens, double exposure lock, and a format mask so I can choose, when loading, to shoot 6x6 or 6x9 (many of the 6x9 models had format masks for either 6x6 or 6x4.5, especially in the 1930s when cost of film was a significant factor). I also have a Wirgin Auta from the 1950s, and a Voigtlander Rollfilmkamera from 1927. All are capable of excellent images.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Thanks for your detailed comment. You are so right about the habit. That’s crucial when using these old cameras! I’m still amazed at the quality that these cameras are capable of. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • @Martin_Siegel
    @Martin_Siegel 2 года назад +1

    I don't have an Ikonta nor a Nettar but 3 Voigtländer Bessas, in all the frame sizes you mentioned for the Zeiss ones. A very different shooting experience but worth it and very likely the cheapest entry inot MF photography, even cheaper than a Holga or Diana F. A joy to use. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Hello Martin! Yes, these folders are a cheap entry into MF fun. The brand maybe doesn't matter a lot and there are also many different brands in different countries.
      The only points to make sure when buying an old folder is that it doesn't look obviously bent or tilted or in any other way damaged, that focus and aperture still move, that the shutter still fires, and that the bellows unit is tight. And then maybe check if it takes 120 film, because that's the one available today ...

    • @Martin_Siegel
      @Martin_Siegel 2 года назад

      @@tomscameras Yes, Shanghai makes GP 3 in 620, too. But that's basically the same film on different spools. But the also make it in 220 (nothing for most folders because of the red window) but exciting for other MF cameras.

  • @DustinBKerensky97
    @DustinBKerensky97 2 года назад +2

    That's a beautiful camera. That's the funny thing, the cheapest camera I own is a Medium Format camera. An old Kodak Brownie Six Twenty, producing big gorgeous negatives (although not the best lens).

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад +1

      Yes the lens is definitely the limiting factor (well and in my case, the focusing skills on anything that's not static!) ... this is also the case for the Nettar. Still I find the overall amount of detail astonishing for such an old and "cheap" camera!
      I think I once had a Kodak folder that took 620 film. I cut the edges off the spool of 120 and it fitted! But that must have been back in the 1990s ...

  • @techtt6213
    @techtt6213 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always! I'm learning a lot

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @darrylroberts5235
    @darrylroberts5235 Год назад +1

    Nice review, don't leave out if it has bulb or T. Thank you.

  • @19kevin94dederichs
    @19kevin94dederichs Год назад +1

    Direkt vor meiner Haustüre am Aachener Weiher!
    Können ja mal gerne gemeinsam eine Analoge Tour machen ✌🏼

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Aachener Weiher: Dann wird Dir eins meiner nächsten Videos sicher auch gefallen! 😀

  • @dont-want-no-wrench
    @dont-want-no-wrench Год назад +2

    the habit to get into is to wind just before you expose- that way you dont have doubles, and the film stays flatter for the shot.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Thanks for the tip! Habits like that can help a lot with these cameras!

  • @antoniokelly3973
    @antoniokelly3973 Год назад +1

    Es bellísima 🤌🏻

  • @davidjazay9248
    @davidjazay9248 2 года назад +2

    Everything is better with lens hood ;)

  • @John-jl3ky
    @John-jl3ky Год назад +1

    I've been looking at these cameras on ebay, of course you never know what you're going to get really, so I'm looking at the cheapest ones because I don't want to spend $80 and it doesn't work right. I am going to attempt to buy one, I really appreciate the information.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      If you don’t care about it having a Tessar lens (like mine also doesn’t have one) you can also always look for one with a more basic shutter. The best shutters will have the long times up to 1 second, but these long times often don’t work anymore today. The simplest shutters have only three times but those normally all will work. (Of course, all shutters offer B for long-time exposure in addition.)
      Then check the lens condition (clear glass) and if the focusing still works smoothly. Happy hunting!

  • @marcgravel3010
    @marcgravel3010 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video! Very informative. Very helpful for me as I just bought a Zeiss Ikon Ikonta the 521 version on ebay. Paid $42.50 usd, so not expensive as your comment in the video. It is a beautiful camera. Can't wait to use it. Would you have any advice on maintaining or cleaning the camera. Especially the bellows.... Also....what would be the models that you would think would be the most intersting to purchase for picture quality. There are so many. Thank-you again!!!! :)

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  3 месяца назад +1

      Hey, the Ikonta 521 is a great camera. In general, all the ones that have additional features and better lenses, are more valuable today.
      "Additional features" include: (1) shutter with more choice of shutter times - the really basic ones often have only three times; (2) four-element lens, not the cheaper three-element design that I have in my Nettar 515. In Zeiss, four-element lenses are usually designated "Tessar", so they're more valuable; (3) a mechanism that prevents unwanted double exposures, again my basic Nettar does miss that; (4) rangefinder.
      As for the shutter, I personally have a soft spot for those simple shutters that only have a few times. Because more often than not, all those speeds still work well today, even after long periods of storage. Whereas the most sophisticated ones like Compurs etc. with times from 1 - 1/500 second often need a thorough CLA. The question is, how many of those speeds do you realistically need today when you shoot an old folder?
      Cleaning bellows, I'm not an expert! If it's real leather bellows (mostly pre-war and large format), you can use products for leather care. Some folks use shoe polish. In either case, just use a very small amount, less is more! Most bellows units are in a surprising good shape even after many decades. One big exemption are old Agfa folding cameras that have horrible 1950's plastic bellows that are about 100% broken today and need repair or better a full replacement.
      Check your bellows for light leaks by opening the film door and then shoot a camera flash from the rear towards the lens. You'll immediately see light leaks this way!

  • @tvnshack
    @tvnshack 2 года назад +1

    When I'm on the streets and shoot with my Super Ikontas, people stop by and ask always if film is still available ;-)

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Haha, yes, once a guy even asked me if film is available when I was walking around with my Nikon FM2 ...

  • @markandrewhoran
    @markandrewhoran 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi Tom, Another very informative and well done video. I just purchased a Nettar 515 in a 6 x 4.5 format. I was wondering what settings you used to take the shots at night?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  3 месяца назад +1

      Hi Mark, at night I set up the camera on a tripod and set it to f/11 or f/16, and shutter to T or B, and use an external light meter to determine the exposure time. I think it was between 30 and 180 seconds. At T the shutter stays open once you fire, and you need to move the lever to close it. At B you have to continuously press the shutter lever, but I use a cable release anyway to avoid any camera shake. Cable releases have those lock screws or other locking mechanisms so they keep the shutter open until you unlock it.

    • @markandrewhoran
      @markandrewhoran 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tomscameras Hi Tom, thanks for sharing that info. Your photos were really amazing.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  3 месяца назад

      @@markandrewhoran Many thanks, and you're of course welcome!

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus Год назад

    I like to shoot landscapes with a 6x9cm medium format folding camera with 105mm normal lens paired with a 6x9cm medium format rangefinder with a 65mm wide-angle lens.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      That sounds a terrific set of cameras. A 6x9 with a 65mm lens? The Fuji GSW690? I have to admit that I never tried it out so far for myself!

  • @doesnt_even_lift
    @doesnt_even_lift 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do you know what causes the horizontal lines in the middle of some of the shots?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  6 месяцев назад

      That happens either when there is small debris at the film gate of the camera, that scratches the negative while winding on the film. Or it also happens (maybe more frequently) when the film is developed, due to the same basic reason!

  • @klausrauber8485
    @klausrauber8485 Год назад +1

    Klaus Rauber
    Hallo, I recently got a Zeiss-Ikon-Nettar for 6*6 films. It is an older one ( pre WW2 I think ) with to "filmholes" on the back and an anastigmat 6.3 F7.5 cm lens. Starting to use it I now got back my pictures, which whwere only in a 6*4.5 cm format with unusually broad picture to picture interspaces.. Does anyone have an idea how or why this happened.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Hello Klaus, actually the Nettar also has the same basic film advance system where you slide open that small window on the camera back and then advance the film until the small number for the next frame appears in the window.
      Those numbers are printed on the paper back of the film roll itself. This means that frame spacing is never depending on the camera, but only on where the film manufacturers actually print these small numbers!
      A 6x4.5 camera should yield 16 frames on one roll of 120 film. If you get these 16 frames, then everything is just as it should be!

  • @AstanaYuana
    @AstanaYuana 2 года назад +1

    Sir. Would you like to review TTartisan 23mm? I'm considering to buy that lens but I'll wait for your review. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Oh yes, the TT Artisan 23/1.4 is definitely very interesting! I am trying to get my hands on one as soon as possible to make a review!

  • @basedmax9029
    @basedmax9029 2 года назад +2

    How do you tell if it's focused?
    If it only focuses the lens and you can't look through said lens, do you just set focus and cross your fingers it works?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Basically, yes! You’ve got the distances engraved on the focus ring. What you can do is buy an external rangefinder … those were sold back in the day as accessories and sometimes you still find them sold on eBay or local sales ads.

    • @basedmax9029
      @basedmax9029 2 года назад

      @@tomscameras great information to know!
      I am planning on buying a camera like this, can you tell me how to get high resolutions like this?
      I feel like it's improbable to get such s good picture, teach me your ways!
      Anything else I should know before I buy one? (120 film of course)

  • @timcarpenter2441
    @timcarpenter2441 2 года назад +1

    I noticed your camera was putting two fine scratches along the image. I have a Ensign Selfix 6x6 that sometimes does that. Did you manage to resolve it?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Hi Tim, after seeing the film, I did have a look at the film window and didn't notice anything that would really cause the scratches. So I didn't do anything more yet than wipe it clean again. But I have to admit that I didn't shoot these two cameras anymore since the video. Basically, since I got my Rolleicord, most of my other 6x6 and 6x9 went back to the shelf, except for making a review video 😇

    • @timcarpenter2441
      @timcarpenter2441 2 года назад

      @@tomscameras a Rollei TLR is a nice item. I have wondered about getting one, as my RB67 is a bit heavy for many situations :-)

  • @LeMecMoustachu
    @LeMecMoustachu Год назад +1

    One question i have is when you wind the film at the end on the left side of the camera and take it out, you lose the wooden roll on the left side?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      YES!
      However, many labs will return the spool if you tell them to do so. Maybe first inquire if your lab can do that.
      BTW, all my Nettars work with plastic spools as well.

    • @LeMecMoustachu
      @LeMecMoustachu Год назад

      @@tomscameras thanks for your answer. And once empty, the spool that remains on the right side can't be used as one for the left side? I just bought the camera and know not much about it

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      @@LeMecMoustachu That works, no problem! The only reason to keep the wooden spools is that they look cool. :) But the normal plastic spools are perfect for use. So yes, you just take the empty spool from the old film and place it in the other side, when loading the camera with new film!

    • @LeMecMoustachu
      @LeMecMoustachu Год назад +1

      @@tomscameras thank you a lot

  • @claudiovicentini3984
    @claudiovicentini3984 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much, Tom. I have one of that: 515-2 1:6,3 105 mm. What do you think about this nmodel. I did not see this model in your presentation. What do you advise me about manual focus? Take distance with a meter or apply a telemeter over it? Thank you. Congrats!

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      Thanks Claudio! Yes you are actually right: Back then, most of those cameras were sold with three or even four different lens options. Zeiss-Ikon often offered f/6.3, f/4.5 and f/3.5 triplet lenses. I don't have the Nettar 515/2 with the f/6.3 lens that you have, but one of my 6x6 Nettar cameras is an f/6.3 as well.
      About the quality of the lenses: They all are triplet lenses. That means they're not that sharp when open. I didn't notice a big difference between my f/6.3 and f/4.5 or f/3.5 triplets when shooting them at the same aperture, for example f/8. My advice is you use open aperture when you want to play a little bit with the vintage look, or the depth of field, and are not overly concerned about sharpness. But having said that, the f/6.3 triplet at f/6.3 will definitely be sharper than the f/3.5 triplet at f/3.5!
      If you practice a bit, you can get pretty good at guessing distances. It's kind of fun! I mean, id you do long step, it's almost exactly one metre for most people. But there are of course more precice ways to measure the distance. Back when these cameras were new, they sold small seperate rangefinders that you slip onto the accessory shoe, or can connect somewhere else on the camera, or just use hand-held. Maybe you can find one of these on ebay etc. ... you can also buy a cheap modern laser distance meter, they're not expensive. Or, as I said, learn to guess distances.
      My advice for sharp landscape shots is to use f/16 when light permits. In summer, f/16 is no problem when you use an ISO 320 or ISO 400 film. In winter, you'll maybe want to bring a tripod, or just place your camera somewhere on a solid surface.

    • @claudiovicentini3984
      @claudiovicentini3984 Год назад

      @@tomscameras Thank you so much Tom for your so clear answer! I have to take practice with it. Is better tri-x 400 or TMax 400 films ? and can I use a traditional meter instead the rangefinders? Thank you again for all!

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      Both films are very good for this camera. The T-Max 400 is a very fine grained film. For an old 6x9 camera, the grain doesn't matter so much. I would personally simply take the film that is cheaper. You can also look for Ilford films, they're also great!
      (If I shoot 35mm cameras, then grain matters much more and i absolutely prefer the fine grain of T-Max and Ilford Delta for 35mm cameras. But again, for 6x9 it doesn't really matter so much.)
      Meter: You mean to meter the light / exposure? Or the distance?
      Any light meter is good to meter the light. You can also download light meter apps for your Smartphone. This is all about exposure.
      Distance: Then a rangefinder or a laser distance meter helps!

    • @claudiovicentini3984
      @claudiovicentini3984 Год назад +1

      @@tomscameras Big Thanks!!!

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      You're welcome, have fun with your Nettar camera!

  • @michelemorris1748
    @michelemorris1748 Год назад

    I can’t close my Zeiss Netter, help! How do you do it? It seems like it needs a release but you seemed to just push it.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Yes you just need to push it. But you can maybe push first at the joint of the two chromed bars that keep the „door“ open so that they more easily fold back together! Hope this helps!

  • @Wackscave
    @Wackscave Год назад +1

    I love my 3 cameras

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Sounds a nice little collection!

  • @jravell
    @jravell Год назад

    10:36 Hold it where?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      You can support the front of the camera e.g. with the left hand at the folding door, or with the right hand but then place your hand more under the lens, just make sure that small lever doesn't get in the way when you fire the shutter. If you hold the camera in your hand and have a look at the lever, it's easy to find a good position for your hand. The thing is i kept forgetting about that lever, and I suppose if you're not often shooting such a camera, that can happen very easily.

  • @uwekienle8939
    @uwekienle8939 Год назад +1

    Eine hübsche Kamera

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      Absolut! 😀

    • @uwekienle8939
      @uwekienle8939 Год назад

      @@tomscameras Ab nächster Woche werde ich eine Nettar haben, ich bin auf den Zustand gespannt

  • @steffel2007
    @steffel2007 Год назад +1

    I have many cameras and videocameras, all from Germany

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Yes, we once had a great camera industry over here. Today, at least Leica remains! (And of course Zeiss and others still are in the business of designing lenses and optics ...)

  • @user-ux4up5iw3f
    @user-ux4up5iw3f 2 года назад +1

    Hi. I want to learn lhagee venus camera. Because the manual is rare
    Good happy day~~^^

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  2 года назад

      Unfortunately, I never shot an Ihagee Venus so far. It was made since around 1916 and uses sheet film. Sorry, but I don't have any practical experience with such cameras.

  • @FF-ur9fy
    @FF-ur9fy 7 месяцев назад +1

    The video is made very neatly, consistently, informatively and at a great pace. I also make videos so I can appreciate how much work goes into it. The photos taken with this camera illustrate the capabilities of the optics very well. Great video! Like, subscribe and comment from me

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  7 месяцев назад

      Many thanks for your great feedback, I really appreciate it! 🙏

  • @PremKumar-yf8jo
    @PremKumar-yf8jo Год назад +1

    Now films are not manufacturef now digital age.

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад

      Films are still readily available, especially black & white films. Analog is enjoying strong user support these days!

  • @mdbdoc
    @mdbdoc Год назад

    forefathers? you know women also were photographers, right?

    • @tomscameras
      @tomscameras  Год назад +1

      Of course you are right. There are many great and important female photographers!

    • @oellappen269
      @oellappen269 Год назад +1

      I'd say go complain somewhere else.
      Take life easier buddy and don't get offended by this simple stuff.