I'm still using my dad's 65 year old Franka Solida ll range finder and just baught another to repair the damage done by my older brother back in the 80's, and stole a mint Bronica Etrs on eBay for £60 which had an issue with the shutter sticking, which I took apart to clean then went for a drive and found a couple of really interesting village churches yesterday. Managed to take one shot and the battery ran out on my ME Super sods law...
That has happened to me with my ME Super. The good thing is that in the event of battery failure it defaults to a mechanical shutter speed of 1/125, so shooting outdoors with correct exposure is still possible by simply adjusting the aperture.
@@snapsnappist4529 I tried that at the time and had trouble releasing the shutter after winding the film on a couple of times, so decided to rewind the infrared film in it to save it first before taking it apart. All is fine now after using a bit of contact cleaner and few drops of oil.
Thanks for the video. Really cool to see the developing process, also. I’ve just been reacquainted with the Zeiss ikon nettar I used as a boy. Looking forward to popping a film through it.
Hey Rog - I just bagged three of them from ebay - one a 1231/16 'Pronto Flash' with case, looks very nice condition 30 quid; one a 518/16 nice condition but some peeling paint 50 quid; one in sad condition, with case 6 quid. Bargain!! Hey Rog you truly are an inspiration - thank you very much indeed 🙂
You can calibrate these camera's lenses. Put tracing paper on the spools with the back open. Put it on a tripod and focus on distant objects at night (like a street light). Take the focus ring off (at the start) , and then focus till sharp. Carefully replace the focus ring so you don't change the focus. Line up infinity with the point and tighten the screws. Done! I like l also test for close focus and fine tune it using a tape rule to judge distance and make sure that numbers match the tape measure. Use a pencil to mark any fine tune adjustments and you have just calibrate your lens. Super simple. For the calibration I like a darkness and a torch focused on a small point, text on a page is the best for close focus calibration. If you can read it on the tracing paper at the back of the camera (open back door), then it is Perfect! Super satisfying!
Thanks, yes I have done that in the past in the dark and a bright torch on my subject. Unfortunately I ruined an Icon Nettar as I couldn't get it back working! Gave it to a friend and he fixed it and kept it
I bought a Zeiss Ikon Nettar through Etsy from a guy in Ukraine. I am getting it on October 1. I am excited and cannot wait to get outside and test it. Thank you for inspiring me to shoot film again, and try out various films and cameras. Great channel, Great videos, and Great photographs.
When I make a test strip I double the exposure, for example, 2, 4, 8, 16 etc. I focus wide open and stop down to 5.6 during exposure. This is the way I was taught many years back
Just bought one and loaded up with Exp. 2002 FP4 to shoot tomorrow. Think mine is a bit later version model as it has the blanked off shutter release screw thread on lens and release thread in shutter button but also has mechanical multi exposure prevention (with a small apperture in the top plate that shows red warning indicator) (no red warning on right side of viewfinder window), has model family 518/16 embosed in rear vinyl but no serial numbers (lens or body). It is fitted with the Novar 75mm f4.5 and the Velio shutter providing 1/200th, 100th, 50th, 25th, 10th & B settings. All speeds seem accurate.. lens is crystal clear and no signs of wear or even use (just some flakes of black enamel paint come away, easily rectified). Bellows are like new and lens panel is proper square to the body. Focus is smooth and good resistance. Not even any dust in viewfinder. I've been very lucky to aquire for £27 on ebay and look forward to seeing the results. Will process in HC110 (dilution B) for 11mins. I mixed up 500ml in April and have used the very same solution for multiple 35mm camera test films (10 frame runs) over the subsequent 6 months and still delivering good negs. The original concentrate spent 20years in my garage before first opening in April. So does it last.. you bet. The 35mm FP4+ used was also Exp. 2002.. kept in bulk loader at room temp.. no issues. If you know my exact Nettar model I'd appreciate the info. 6x6 rocks! 😃
I was given a 1930's Voigtlander 'BESSA' with 75mm f3.5 'Voigtar' lens -- it also developed 'Haze' inside the elements' Luckily a Kind Fellow Brentwood & District Photo Club member gave me a 'Lens Spanner Set' he never uses -- i managed to unscrew the back element inside and clean then got into the front element by unscrewing the ring with very TINY Screws. I cleaned with lens tissue and lens fluid -- I had difficulty finding the 'Multi-Start Thread' !!! It was a Nightmare -- anyway -- during a Tea Break ( YES us BRITS can't do anything without our Cuppas) i GOT it -- now camera takes 'Good Clear Snaps' and is Very Happy !
My daughter has one of those I bought for her about 45 years ago, they are lovely little cameras, handy having the shoe for the rangefinder, most folders don't have one. I have two Ensign Selfixes, 8 and 16 on 120, a very tatty but fully working Yashicamat and a recently acquired Voigtlander Avus plate camera with a roll film back. A receipt came with the Avus, first bought from a Norwich camera dealer in 1935.
Glad your new purchase was working well enough to capture the shots you took. I've experienced the ill's you had with the first Nettar you had, and found that someone had the lens apart before and never bothered to index the apparatus after cleaning and lubricating the whole assembly. If the new Nettar is having focus stability its likely someone replacing the factory grease with light machine oils that make stable focus wonky at best. Great review. Best wishes.
Hello Shoot Film Like a Boss, I'm also someone who plays with very old cameras. In order to make these old sweethearts fit again in focus, I sanded a screen to correct the distance setting. I have a Zeiss Ikon 517/2. With kind regards from the Schaumburger Land Matthias
Love these Zeiss vids. If I hadn't seen these, I wouldn't have recognised the Ikon in my local camera store window. It's a Super Ikonta. Looks exactly the same as your Nettar but with a built-in rangefinder, light meter, EV settings on the lens, a shot counter and a few more bits and bobs. Absolutely love it!! Great to see you've picked up another. These folders are fantastic.
Agreed, I too have a Super Ikonta (530/2) and it's a wonderful thing. I bought mine at the Goodwood Revival last year, it was cheap because 1: they didn't know what it was, and 2: it was seized shut. It took me 10 minutes of working the opening mechanism and gently teasing the lens out. Thereafter it seems light proof and the shutter speeds work well. I've just finished my first roll through it ( on the Isle of Wight coincidentally ) and am hoping it is all good.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I took couple on Bembridge beach in glorious weather, a couple more at a scooter rally in Ventnor and the rest at a classic car show held at the steam railway at Haven Street. I also photographed at Freshwater Bay on the same very windy day you were there, but I think I might have been earlier on. I was shooting digital on that occasion in any case. Amongst my favourite photography spots on the IOW has been around the boatyards at Cowes, the Yarmouth area in general, and on the chalk downs above Carisbrooke Castle.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss One particularly atmospheric location I found was the walk from the car park by the Priory close to Carisbrooke Castle. After a few yards of road, you find yourself back in time a thousand years as there is one of the very best ancient tracks or holloways which is around half a mile long leading up to the hilltop. The light that filters into this sunken path from the ancient trees and hedges is magical, but tricky to capture as well. You could have really good fun trying to capture it, and now that it's autumn you may get some evocative mist as well.
Lol., even here in Australia we know what it is from back when we used pounds , shillings and pence before we went decimal back in 1966. we still say it often to this day.
Great video with incredible photographic results. Regarding the focussing problem: Resurrected folding cameras often tend to have a problem caused by their 21st century prince kissing them awake and forcing them open. There are small hinges that let the lens stop parallel to the film level in full open position of the camera. If they are bent by some force of an unknowing person, the lenses are not parallel to the film plan which causes a tilt effect with only very short levels of sharp imaging. Laying the opened camera onto a leveled surface and putting the same level in the same direction as when leveling out the surface onto the lens is a good method of identifying deviations and having a measurement unit for bending the metal plates back into correct position. Beyond that, you can stretch and tape parchment paper on the film level to measure the real distances of the set focus. If differences really are out of the hyperfocal tolerances of the given maximum opening of the lens, then I'd use some acid free tape and mark the correct distances on the focussing ring.
Inspitered by your video I bought a Nettar. SHutter problem so I stripped and cleaned. On test everything blurred! The front focusing lens has a douboe start thread! 50:50 to get it right or wrong.
sorry I forgot to mention that you can have as many speeds you like between 25 and 200 ; just set the speeds dial in between what you fancy , and wallop , you've got another speed . I leave the discovery to you , get your missus's specs , a stethoscope - I mean it !- dim the light and find out . treat yourself to a pint , after you discover the rest of the speeds . cheers !
Very good results. The negs looked great too. Well controlled contrast with XTol 1+2. If you took the front cell off the old Nettar to clean it, did you make sure you returned the lens to its previous reference? The best thing is to focus the lens at infinity and have a look at the projected image and adjust accordingly. The focusing helical might be out of synch.
Dear Roger, I have a few Agfa folders, which are pretty much the same construction as your Nettar. The distance ring on your first lens element may have shifted a bit, as it is fixed with three tiny screws which may get loose over time. To adjust the focus unscrew these tiny ones and lift off the silver distance ring (you will have done that already when you've cleaned the lens, right?). Open the camera and fix a piece of semi-transparent drawing-paper as a mock up film inside (I used a 6 cm broad stripe of it and fixed it to two spools to have a semi-transparent "film" to be loaded in the camera). Then set the camera to bulb and open the shutter with a cable release. Once it's dark outside you can focus e.g. on a lamp post some 25 m away for infinity by turning the first lens element, since you will see the picture on your transparent "film". Then fix the distance ring to the front lens accordingly. To be on the safe side, you can repeat the same with a torch or candle in 1.5 m distance and re-adjust the ring if necessary and then you should be good to go. Maybe you've tried this already with no results, but I thought it's worth sharing. Love your channel!
Thanks Carsten. I tried all of that. I was spending so much time trying to get the focusing right and after thinking it was correct again using parchment paper on the back I loaded more film and it was still soft focus. I was so close!
I stop the thing down (like a boss) to at least f8. This yields Tri X negatives that can be enlarged to the limit allowed by my enlarger with all the resolution and contrast I need. The Zeiss: a pretty good deal for an investment of $200. Thanks for a fine video!
I just got a nettar 517/16 on ebay for £20! Does anyone know, can you use shutter speeds "between" the 3 marked speeds? (If so, is that just a feature of leaf shutters?). Also, how do I attach a shutter release cable? My existing one doesn't seem to fit, and there's no thread on the attachment point on the lens)
I use a normal screw thread cable on mine. I think it's a standard screw fit. Yours should be too. I don't think in between shutters changes the speed. Nice bargain! Best way if you want to know for sure is run a test over 12 frames.
I've watched a lot of the photography channels for about two years now, and this one is by far the best. especially since u didn't make fun of me for measuring the thickness of my "thin" negatives. (.0045 inch).
(6.52)Phew!! Roger I thought for a moment that you had shaved George! .:):) Nice that you got a another Netter it went to the right man look forwarding to seeing it in the your future videos.
I have a lot of negs taken by my father with the pre-war version of this camera, which had a folding viewfinder. They is a remarkable amount of detail. I had a 6x9 Super Ikonta pre-war which has a less stable strut system than the 6x6.
Thx for the video and greetings from the Black Forest in Germany. I just bought an old 6X6 Agfa Isolette and try this one out now... If it doesnt work i already found an Zeiss Ikon Nettar on Ebay which seems in good condition... Anyway ur Video helped me taking test pictures. I like ur channel and watch it often!
I have the Zeiss Ikon Nettar 6x9, think it's model 515, and I absolutely love it! In the landscape orientation however the tripod mount is flimsy as it's all the way to one side of the camera.
instead of a regular plate, use a rail instead. this will give you a much wider support base for the camera and will let you compensate for the off-center mount on the camera. for example: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1120235-REG/sunwayfoto_dpg_210r_multi_purpose_rail.html
Good to see Nettar in action again! Old one deserves a special place on the shelf :) or one can use it for 'special effect' photoshoot? like old fashion portraits? and the short enlarging exposure times can be easily prolonged by using ND filter under the lens ( I use ND2, ND4 in place of red filter on enlarger) or dialing in colour filters on colour head ( Y,M and C must be equal!). LOVELY 3D pop-out branch btw!!!
I've got bought a 518/16 with the same lens, but mine has a shutter with B, 1, 1/2, 1/5, 1/10, 1/25, 1/50, 1/100 and 1/300. Have yet to put a film through to find out how it works but all seems good except the delayed action which doesn't work. I could strip it down to clean and lubricate but I don't suppose I would actually use delayed action anyway..
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Yes, Prontor SVS. Really looking forward to putting some film through this. I love my Mamiya C330f TLR but it's huge and heavy, seeing you using the Nettar made me wish I had medium format in my pocket!
How old would you say this camera is? I recently found one at good will for $9.99. We haven’t used it yet but it’s made a fantastic addition to our camera cabinet.
It's a cable release. It attaches to the camera shutter fire button and when I press the button at the end of the cord it releases the shutter. Means I don't have to touch the camera to release the shutter eliminating any camera shake
Great bargain! I have a Nettar 517/16 and I really like it, it's always fun to use it and the lens is still sharp fortunately. One day I'll buy an external rangefinder, this helps a lot.
Just recently I dug out two old cameras that were my Grandfathers, one a Voigtlander and the other a Zeiss Ikon Nettar. Think it is the same model as your new one since it has the same shutter button. But mine does not have that red screen to prevent double exposer and it has five shutter speeds (10 25 50 100 200). Got some 120 film and already started to take photos, though I have no idea how good they are as I dont have a way to develop them yet (was thinking about getting a photo scanner). So for all I know I might be wasting the film. But hey I bought three films so I can sacrifice one as a learning experience.
Your new Zeiss is the same as the one I have, they're also known as a 'signal Nettar' because of the red indicator that shows in the viewfinder. should take mine out some time, havent used it for a couple of years, to many cameras here, lol.
Just started to get back into film photography after a absence of 12 years with a newly acquired nikon f100 and a couple of old Kodak 66's both a model 2 and 3, both for a couple of quid at local charitie shops but was able to find a few filters (yellow, green and close up) and lens hoods on Ebay. The model 3 is missing the name plate and hot shoe not that it should make any difference other than the aesthetics (if any one has a scrap one that could be used for parts please give me a shout) Any tips other than experimenting and having fun with them? And yes I've found some old undeveloped and unexposed 35mm film in a box in the roof space back from my old minolta 7xi days that I'll be home developing over winter. Thanks
I dont know if it is the video but you should get better sharpness out of the "new"Novar! You are using the rangefinder - is it calibrated? Is the lens calibrated?
The rangefinder I calibrated using a tape measure. Prints look sharp on paper and I'm well happy so I'll leave the lens alone. I presume calibtaring the lens means un screwing the lug screws and tweaking??
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I have a Nettar and checked with a piece of matte glass on the filmholder just checking that I got a sharp picture on the distances the scale of the lans gives. I was lucky that my lens was accurate but I guess I otherwise had to remember for instance that 1 m. on the lens is 1.2 m in reality. If you are satisfied with the sharpness it must be the video on YT that doesn´t give justice tp the lens. That Novar lens is pretty good actually, at least at 5.6 and 8. Those 6x6 cameras are real fun to shoot with.
the way to avoid double exposures is to get in the habit of always winding just before you expose- this also helps keep the film flatter when you take the shot
Just seen one of these on a local auction site - it’s in good nick cosmetically (going by the pics) and he reckons the shutter is good to go - I’m thinking of a sneaking auto bid - NZ $50-60 might do it I reckon.
I suppose it could have other issues besides the shutter but it’s worth a punt - focusing is probably quite tough to nail until you spend a lot of time with a camera like this but I’m sure it’s worth the time and effort. Cool channel 👍🏻
I'm Korean People. I'm not Photographer. but, I like folding Camera. too. I have a 5 folding Camera(AGFA SOLINETTE 2, KODAK Retina 1, BALDA CAMERA Beltica 1, VOIGTLENDER VITO 2, ZEISS ICON IKONTA M). i enjoy folding camera. 35mm, 120mm(6X6). I'm not use light meter & meter tool.
Hello and thanks for all the content. I do have a question that I've struggled to find the answer to online. Contrast filters in the darkroom - why did you choose to use the 2 1/2 grade filter? I've barely used mine due to lack of understanding and it would be interesting to know what you saw in the negative and pre-visualised in the print that made you go for that grade filter? I've done some testing myself in the darkroom but I think I could save a quid or two if I had a bit more of an idea about how they work. E.g. I've seen videos of people saying I'll expose it for so many seconds without the filter then put a 5 in for ten seconds. Thanks in advance.
Scrap that. Just found your video on using contrast filters in the darkroom! though I am still keen to know what you saw in the neg or pre-visualised in the print that made you opt straight for the 2 1/2. Thanks again, boss.
Multigrade paper is usually considered around grade 2 or 2.5. So in theory I don't really need to use the filter to make straight forward prints. But out of habit I always (99% of the time) slide a 2.5 grade under the lens to start off with so it's like my rock to stand on with the papers I use. Also if I feel I need to split grade I can split that time between Grade 0 and Grade 5. It's just what I'm used to. There's no rule Edward.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Попробуйте! Отличная камера и технически очень продвинутая для своих лет! У меня их две 1961 и 1962 годов выпуска и обе отлично снимают. И оптика там стоит отличная!
I love watching your videos and how we get to see the whole process from taking the picture to printing it. What light meter do you use? I've been using an app on my phone, but am thinking about getting a stand-alone one.
dear Roger , every time I need to hear some healthy English accent I tune into your channel please note < need to> Of bleedin 'course you butcher all them foreign words , you're English , aren't you ? it's < tzeyes > Nettar you've got it right , Anastigmat wrong , as usual golden rule for English , Welsh , Scots , and other British subjects is : if you naturally stress the first syllable then you can bet your posterior it's second one you should stress . The syllable you strees naturally and the syllable you pronounce more or less neutrally are your best guide go against your natural tendency and stress the other syllable ana-STIG-mat you says , anastigMAT is right admittedly it's a difficult one having four syllables ;Love you , your videos , some of your pics and your effervescence . What a pity they banned smokin' in pubs ( please pron vinnie coz it's German & I'm a bloke )
"Like a boss:" actually no, I don't. (Native English, well, American, speaker; 20 years of shooting with Zeiss Super Ikonta III, but no boss in sight.)
It's a saying Jeremy where if you excel in something or do something very well... "he does it like a boss". In my case the word "boss" in the channel name is a tribute to the guy that inspired me to shoot film. He passed many years ago.
Such old cameras are simply pleasant to hold in your hands!
I'm still using my dad's 65 year old Franka Solida ll range finder and just baught another to repair the damage done by my older brother back in the 80's, and stole a mint Bronica Etrs on eBay for £60 which had an issue with the shutter sticking, which I took apart to clean then went for a drive and found a couple of really interesting village churches yesterday. Managed to take one shot and the battery ran out on my ME Super sods law...
That has happened to me with my ME Super. The good thing is that in the event of battery failure it defaults to a mechanical shutter speed of 1/125, so shooting outdoors with correct exposure is still possible by simply adjusting the aperture.
@@snapsnappist4529 I tried that at the time and had trouble releasing the shutter after winding the film on a couple of times, so decided to rewind the infrared film in it to save it first before taking it apart.
All is fine now after using a bit of contact cleaner and few drops of oil.
Thanks for the video. Really cool to see the developing process, also. I’ve just been reacquainted with the Zeiss ikon nettar I used as a boy. Looking forward to popping a film through it.
Hey Rog - I just bagged three of them from ebay - one a 1231/16 'Pronto Flash' with case, looks very nice condition 30 quid; one a 518/16 nice condition but some peeling paint 50 quid; one in sad condition, with case 6 quid. Bargain!! Hey Rog you truly are an inspiration - thank you very much indeed 🙂
You can calibrate these camera's lenses. Put tracing paper on the spools with the back open. Put it on a tripod and focus on distant objects at night (like a street light). Take the focus ring off (at the start) , and then focus till sharp. Carefully replace the focus ring so you don't change the focus. Line up infinity with the point and tighten the screws. Done!
I like l also test for close focus and fine tune it using a tape rule to judge distance and make sure that numbers match the tape measure. Use a pencil to mark any fine tune adjustments and you have just calibrate your lens.
Super simple.
For the calibration I like a darkness and a torch focused on a small point, text on a page is the best for close focus calibration. If you can read it on the tracing paper at the back of the camera (open back door), then it is Perfect! Super satisfying!
Thanks, yes I have done that in the past in the dark and a bright torch on my subject. Unfortunately I ruined an Icon Nettar as I couldn't get it back working! Gave it to a friend and he fixed it and kept it
Just inherited a 518 /16 from my dad - just put in an HP5 roll.
Pronounciation of Novar Anastigmat was spot on 👌🏻 way less butchered than Schneider Kreutznach 😂
good to know!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss sorry don't want to be rude mate. Simply pronounce the eu in kreutznach like the oy in joy and ur good ☺️
The bokeh up close was great. Love me some folding cameras
I bought a Zeiss Ikon Nettar through Etsy from a guy in Ukraine. I am getting it on October 1. I am excited and cannot wait to get outside and test it. Thank you for inspiring me to shoot film again, and try out various films and cameras. Great channel, Great videos, and Great photographs.
Thanks!
Excellent video. A fine lesson in the basics of Black & White photography. Impressive image quality.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks Paul
When I make a test strip I double the exposure, for example, 2, 4, 8, 16 etc. I focus wide open and stop down to 5.6 during exposure. This is the way I was taught many years back
My timer will stick every so often. I love the swirl in the background of the skinny tree photo.
Same here! that surprised me John.
Just bought one and loaded up with Exp. 2002 FP4 to shoot tomorrow. Think mine is a bit later version model as it has the blanked off shutter release screw thread on lens and release thread in shutter button but also has mechanical multi exposure prevention (with a small apperture in the top plate that shows red warning indicator) (no red warning on right side of viewfinder window), has model family 518/16 embosed in rear vinyl but no serial numbers (lens or body). It is fitted with the Novar 75mm f4.5 and the Velio shutter providing 1/200th, 100th, 50th, 25th, 10th & B settings. All speeds seem accurate.. lens is crystal clear and no signs of wear or even use (just some flakes of black enamel paint come away, easily rectified). Bellows are like new and lens panel is proper square to the body. Focus is smooth and good resistance. Not even any dust in viewfinder. I've been very lucky to aquire for £27 on ebay and look forward to seeing the results. Will process in HC110 (dilution B) for 11mins. I mixed up 500ml in April and have used the very same solution for multiple 35mm camera test films (10 frame runs) over the subsequent 6 months and still delivering good negs. The original concentrate spent 20years in my garage before first opening in April. So does it last.. you bet. The 35mm FP4+ used was also Exp. 2002.. kept in bulk loader at room temp.. no issues. If you know my exact Nettar model I'd appreciate the info. 6x6 rocks! 😃
I was given a 1930's Voigtlander 'BESSA' with 75mm f3.5 'Voigtar' lens -- it also developed 'Haze' inside the elements' Luckily a Kind Fellow Brentwood & District Photo Club member gave me a 'Lens Spanner Set' he never uses -- i managed to unscrew the back element inside and clean then got into the front element by unscrewing the ring with very TINY Screws. I cleaned with lens tissue and lens fluid -- I had difficulty finding the 'Multi-Start Thread' !!! It was a Nightmare -- anyway -- during a Tea Break ( YES us BRITS can't do anything without our Cuppas) i GOT it -- now camera takes 'Good Clear Snaps' and is Very Happy !
My daughter has one of those I bought for her about 45 years ago, they are lovely little cameras, handy having the shoe for the rangefinder, most folders don't have one.
I have two Ensign Selfixes, 8 and 16 on 120, a very tatty but fully working Yashicamat and a recently acquired Voigtlander Avus plate camera with a roll film back.
A receipt came with the Avus, first bought from a Norwich camera dealer in 1935.
Amazing how these old cameras are still circulating.
Glad your new purchase was working well enough to capture the shots you took. I've experienced the ill's you had with the first Nettar you had, and found that someone had the lens apart before and never bothered to index the apparatus after cleaning and lubricating the whole assembly. If the new Nettar is having focus stability its likely someone replacing the factory grease with light machine oils that make stable focus wonky at best. Great review. Best wishes.
Hello Shoot Film Like a Boss,
I'm also someone who plays with very old cameras.
In order to make these old sweethearts fit again in focus, I sanded a screen to correct the distance setting. I have a Zeiss Ikon 517/2.
With kind regards from the Schaumburger Land
Matthias
Love these Zeiss vids. If I hadn't seen these, I wouldn't have recognised the Ikon in my local camera store window. It's a Super Ikonta. Looks exactly the same as your Nettar but with a built-in rangefinder, light meter, EV settings on the lens, a shot counter and a few more bits and bobs. Absolutely love it!! Great to see you've picked up another. These folders are fantastic.
Agreed, I too have a Super Ikonta (530/2) and it's a wonderful thing. I bought mine at the Goodwood Revival last year, it was cheap because 1: they didn't know what it was, and 2: it was seized shut. It took me 10 minutes of working the opening mechanism and gently teasing the lens out. Thereafter it seems light proof and the shutter speeds work well. I've just finished my first roll through it ( on the Isle of Wight coincidentally ) and am hoping it is all good.
Any interesting locations?
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I took couple on Bembridge beach in glorious weather, a couple more at a scooter rally in Ventnor and the rest at a classic car show held at the steam railway at Haven Street. I also photographed at Freshwater Bay on the same very windy day you were there, but I think I might have been earlier on. I was shooting digital on that occasion in any case. Amongst my favourite photography spots on the IOW has been around the boatyards at Cowes, the Yarmouth area in general, and on the chalk downs above Carisbrooke Castle.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss One particularly atmospheric location I found was the walk from the car park by the Priory close to Carisbrooke Castle. After a few yards of road, you find yourself back in time a thousand years as there is one of the very best ancient tracks or holloways which is around half a mile long leading up to the hilltop. The light that filters into this sunken path from the ancient trees and hedges is magical, but tricky to capture as well. You could have really good fun trying to capture it, and now that it's autumn you may get some evocative mist as well.
“If ya dunno wot a quid is, is one pahn.” That’s up there with the saveloy episode. 🤣
lol
Lol., even here in Australia we know what it is from back when we used pounds , shillings and pence before we went decimal back in 1966. we still say it often to this day.
Great video with incredible photographic results.
Regarding the focussing problem:
Resurrected folding cameras often tend to have a problem caused by their 21st century prince kissing them awake and forcing them open. There are small hinges that let the lens stop parallel to the film level in full open position of the camera. If they are bent by some force of an unknowing person, the lenses are not parallel to the film plan which causes a tilt effect with only very short levels of sharp imaging. Laying the opened camera onto a leveled surface and putting the same level in the same direction as when leveling out the surface onto the lens is a good method of identifying deviations and having a measurement unit for bending the metal plates back into correct position.
Beyond that, you can stretch and tape parchment paper on the film level to measure the real distances of the set focus. If differences really are out of the hyperfocal tolerances of the given maximum opening of the lens, then I'd use some acid free tape and mark the correct distances on the focussing ring.
never thought I would hear this on this channel - at 6:40 🙂 👌🏻
What a bargain and some great results! Glad you’ve found a good home for the old one.
I just picked up a Welmy 6 which looks just like a Zeiss Ikon. It Even came with a ZEISS leather case.
Enjoy!
Inspitered by your video I bought a Nettar. SHutter problem so I stripped and cleaned. On test everything blurred! The front focusing lens has a douboe start thread! 50:50 to get it right or wrong.
AHH damn. It's hard to get it right after taking the lens out. I had same trouble and sent it to a friend to fix.
sorry I forgot to mention that you can have as many speeds you like between 25 and 200 ; just set the speeds dial in between what you fancy , and wallop , you've got another speed . I leave the discovery to you , get your missus's specs , a stethoscope - I mean it !- dim the light and find out . treat yourself to a pint , after you discover the rest of the speeds . cheers !
Did just that today whilst out on a shoot. Thanks for the elocution lessons Winnie
Very good results. The negs looked great too. Well controlled contrast with XTol 1+2. If you took the front cell off the old Nettar to clean it, did you make sure you returned the lens to its previous reference? The best thing is to focus the lens at infinity and have a look at the projected image and adjust accordingly. The focusing helical might be out of synch.
Thanks for the tips! I made sure it was all back as it was. Hopefully when it goes off to it's new home I'll get the answer !
Dear Roger, I have a few Agfa folders, which are pretty much the same construction as your Nettar. The distance ring on your first lens element may have shifted a bit, as it is fixed with three tiny screws which may get loose over time. To adjust the focus unscrew these tiny ones and lift off the silver distance ring (you will have done that already when you've cleaned the lens, right?). Open the camera and fix a piece of semi-transparent drawing-paper as a mock up film inside (I used a 6 cm broad stripe of it and fixed it to two spools to have a semi-transparent "film" to be loaded in the camera). Then set the camera to bulb and open the shutter with a cable release. Once it's dark outside you can focus e.g. on a lamp post some 25 m away for infinity by turning the first lens element, since you will see the picture on your transparent "film". Then fix the distance ring to the front lens accordingly. To be on the safe side, you can repeat the same with a torch or candle in 1.5 m distance and re-adjust the ring if necessary and then you should be good to go. Maybe you've tried this already with no results, but I thought it's worth sharing. Love your channel!
Thanks Carsten. I tried all of that. I was spending so much time trying to get the focusing right and after thinking it was correct again using parchment paper on the back I loaded more film and it was still soft focus. I was so close!
what he said, but a piece of frosted glass cut to the right size works better.
I stop the thing down (like a boss) to at least f8. This yields Tri X negatives that can be enlarged to the limit allowed by my enlarger with all the resolution and contrast I need. The Zeiss: a pretty good deal for an investment of $200.
Thanks for a fine video!
Ha ha there you go Jeremy... That's how you say it.
I just got a nettar 517/16 on ebay for £20! Does anyone know, can you use shutter speeds "between" the 3 marked speeds? (If so, is that just a feature of leaf shutters?). Also, how do I attach a shutter release cable? My existing one doesn't seem to fit, and there's no thread on the attachment point on the lens)
I use a normal screw thread cable on mine. I think it's a standard screw fit. Yours should be too. I don't think in between shutters changes the speed. Nice bargain! Best way if you want to know for sure is run a test over 12 frames.
I've watched a lot of the photography channels for about two years now, and this one is by far the best. especially since u didn't make fun of me for measuring the thickness of my "thin" negatives. (.0045 inch).
lol.
(6.52)Phew!! Roger I thought for a moment that you had shaved George! .:):) Nice that you got a another Netter it went to the right man look forwarding to seeing it in the your future videos.
Well, George recently had a shave during the heatwave! growing back nicely again! Cheers Harry
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss He's my favourite RUclips dog, just love the little fellow.:):)
I have a lot of negs taken by my father with the pre-war version of this camera, which had a folding viewfinder. They is a remarkable amount of detail. I had a 6x9 Super Ikonta pre-war which has a less stable strut system than the 6x6.
I have a prewar zeiss ikon and its a stellar camera. I also have a speed graphic from 1919 which I use to take portraits a lot.
Nice video and nice pictures! Your weekly video is my hightime, thankyou roger😉 greeting from norway
Glad you like them!
Thx for the video and greetings from the Black Forest in Germany. I just bought an old 6X6 Agfa Isolette and try this one out now...
If it doesnt work i already found an Zeiss Ikon Nettar on Ebay which seems in good condition... Anyway ur Video helped me taking test pictures.
I like ur channel and watch it often!
I have the Zeiss Ikon Nettar 6x9, think it's model 515, and I absolutely love it!
In the landscape orientation however the tripod mount is flimsy as it's all the way to one side of the camera.
instead of a regular plate, use a rail instead. this will give you a much wider support base for the camera and will let you compensate for the off-center mount on the camera. for example: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1120235-REG/sunwayfoto_dpg_210r_multi_purpose_rail.html
Good to see Nettar in action again! Old one deserves a special place on the shelf :) or one can use it for 'special effect' photoshoot? like old fashion portraits? and the short enlarging exposure times can be easily prolonged by using ND filter under the lens ( I use ND2, ND4 in place of red filter on enlarger) or dialing in colour filters on colour head ( Y,M and C must be equal!). LOVELY 3D pop-out branch btw!!!
very sharp lens, I estimate the distance. Cant find the rowi rangefinder at my grocery.
Getting a Nettar in good working nick for twenty quid is a bargain, no doubt. Thumbs up!
Thanks for your video
I love nettar 518/16
looks good- there is only so sharp that these lenses will get.
I've got bought a 518/16 with the same lens, but mine has a shutter with B, 1, 1/2, 1/5, 1/10, 1/25, 1/50, 1/100 and 1/300. Have yet to put a film through to find out how it works but all seems good except the delayed action which doesn't work. I could strip it down to clean and lubricate but I don't suppose I would actually use delayed action anyway..
Is that a pronto s shutter?
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Yes, Prontor SVS. Really looking forward to putting some film through this. I love my Mamiya C330f TLR but it's huge and heavy, seeing you using the Nettar made me wish I had medium format in my pocket!
How old would you say this camera is? I recently found one at good will for $9.99. We haven’t used it yet but it’s made a fantastic addition to our camera cabinet.
Shoot it. They are 1950s
Can you please tell me what the silver cord is that you use at 7:51?
It's a cable release. It attaches to the camera shutter fire button and when I press the button at the end of the cord it releases the shutter. Means I don't have to touch the camera to release the shutter eliminating any camera shake
Can you advice where to buy this camera? I couldn't find a suitable deal on ebay uptill now. I am really lost.
Thank you :)
Hey Sraban, I've only ever seen and sourced them on ebay. You could try Facebook Market place
Its been 3 yrs but cleaning lens. Was it as simple as removing the front element to clean it? I just picked up a Welmy 6 that needs some lens love.
Just be careful not to put the lens out of focus. Easily done. I know from experience!
Great bargain! I have a Nettar 517/16 and I really like it, it's always fun to use it and the lens is still sharp fortunately. One day I'll buy an external rangefinder, this helps a lot.
Thank you bud :-) I'll really look after her :-)
Love that your new recruit performs well :-) Crackin results too :-)
Boom! Checkout that Sflab logo!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss :-) Gotta be in it to win it ;-)
hi. nice video .. one question. where can I find the rolls for the camera .. model 517/16. ..6x6cm
Thank you
Just any regular 120 film Max. www.silverprint.co.uk
Great vid Roger.
Just recently I dug out two old cameras that were my Grandfathers, one a Voigtlander and the other a Zeiss Ikon Nettar. Think it is the same model as your new one since it has the same shutter button. But mine does not have that red screen to prevent double exposer and it has five shutter speeds (10 25 50 100 200). Got some 120 film and already started to take photos, though I have no idea how good they are as I dont have a way to develop them yet (was thinking about getting a photo scanner). So for all I know I might be wasting the film. But hey I bought three films so I can sacrifice one as a learning experience.
Try sending the films away to be developed or get the chems and tank and try yourself Jake.
Got a late 518/16 Nettar II yesterday on a flea market for 15€. Looks and feels like new, just some marks on the case....
Result!
Nice job Roger!! And you didn't get lost :-)
You got that right!
Your new Zeiss is the same as the one I have, they're also known as a 'signal Nettar' because of the red indicator that shows in the viewfinder. should take mine out some time, havent used it for a couple of years, to many cameras here, lol.
Signal Nettar. I didn't know that! Makes sense. Cheers
Great video. You've worked a lot for us. Thank you!
Just started to get back into film photography after a absence of 12 years with a newly acquired nikon f100 and a couple of old Kodak 66's both a model 2 and 3, both for a couple of quid at local charitie shops but was able to find a few filters (yellow, green and close up) and lens hoods on Ebay. The model 3 is missing the name plate and hot shoe not that it should make any difference other than the aesthetics (if any one has a scrap one that could be used for parts please give me a shout) Any tips other than experimenting and having fun with them? And yes I've found some old undeveloped and unexposed 35mm film in a box in the roof space back from my old minolta 7xi days that I'll be home developing over winter. Thanks
What's the rangefinder you're using on top of the camera?
It's a ROWI Rangefinder. Plenty about Philip.
I dont know if it is the video but you should get better sharpness out of the "new"Novar! You are using the rangefinder - is it calibrated? Is the lens calibrated?
The rangefinder I calibrated using a tape measure. Prints look sharp on paper and I'm well happy so I'll leave the lens alone. I presume calibtaring the lens means un screwing the lug screws and tweaking??
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I have a Nettar and checked with a piece of matte glass on the filmholder just checking that I got a sharp picture on the distances the scale of the lans gives. I was lucky that my lens was accurate but I guess I otherwise had to remember for instance that 1 m. on the lens is 1.2 m in reality.
If you are satisfied with the sharpness it must be the video on YT that doesn´t give justice tp the lens. That Novar lens is pretty good actually, at least at 5.6 and 8.
Those 6x6 cameras are real fun to shoot with.
They are great fun. I'm amazed at the sharpness especially the smaller apertures.
Another great video! Congrats on your new piece of kit :)
6:41 "If I'm overexpose it[..] fix it in the dark room"!
Absolutely 😁
the way to avoid double exposures is to get in the habit of always winding just before you expose- this also helps keep the film flatter when you take the shot
Definitely! Something you learn shooting these cameras and pinhole cameras
Just seen one of these on a local auction site - it’s in good nick cosmetically (going by the pics) and he reckons the shutter is good to go - I’m thinking of a sneaking auto bid - NZ $50-60 might do it I reckon.
If it's a good one you won't regret it.
I suppose it could have other issues besides the shutter but it’s worth a punt - focusing is probably quite tough to nail until you spend a lot of time with a camera like this but I’m sure it’s worth the time and effort.
Cool channel 👍🏻
What are all the different Zeiss Ikonta. I have a 524/16 Zeiss Opton Tessar 75mm F3.5 and I paid $250
Here's a Web page camera-wiki.org/wiki/Ikonta
Ikon nettar si my favorite camera
Nuce, very nice, and such a bargain for a fantastic creature!
I have a couple, the lens is very good , sharp enough from f8.
I'm Korean People. I'm not Photographer. but, I like folding Camera. too. I have a 5 folding Camera(AGFA SOLINETTE 2, KODAK Retina 1, BALDA CAMERA Beltica 1, VOIGTLENDER VITO 2, ZEISS ICON IKONTA M). i enjoy folding camera. 35mm, 120mm(6X6). I'm not use light meter & meter tool.
Hello and thanks for all the content. I do have a question that I've struggled to find the answer to online. Contrast filters in the darkroom - why did you choose to use the 2 1/2 grade filter? I've barely used mine due to lack of understanding and it would be interesting to know what you saw in the negative and pre-visualised in the print that made you go for that grade filter? I've done some testing myself in the darkroom but I think I could save a quid or two if I had a bit more of an idea about how they work. E.g. I've seen videos of people saying I'll expose it for so many seconds without the filter then put a 5 in for ten seconds. Thanks in advance.
Scrap that. Just found your video on using contrast filters in the darkroom! though I am still keen to know what you saw in the neg or pre-visualised in the print that made you opt straight for the 2 1/2. Thanks again, boss.
Multigrade paper is usually considered around grade 2 or 2.5. So in theory I don't really need to use the filter to make straight forward prints. But out of habit I always (99% of the time) slide a 2.5 grade under the lens to start off with so it's like my rock to stand on with the papers I use. Also if I feel I need to split grade I can split that time between Grade 0 and Grade 5. It's just what I'm used to. There's no rule Edward.
Отличное видео!!! А Вы не пробовали снимать на советский фотоаппарат "Искра" ?
Я не пробовал эту камеру
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Попробуйте! Отличная камера и технически очень продвинутая для своих лет! У меня их две 1961 и 1962 годов выпуска и обе отлично снимают. И оптика там стоит отличная!
Great video.
I love watching your videos and how we get to see the whole process from taking the picture to printing it. What light meter do you use? I've been using an app on my phone, but am thinking about getting a stand-alone one.
A sekonic L508. I get good results also with the app if I forget the meter
"Happy as a pig in shit..." - - I can dig it.
I never heard Ansel Adams say 'happy as a pig in shit', and more's the pity.
OMG! Another ZeissIkonNettar....! 🤪
It doesn't matter, your pictures are beautiful despite her. 😁
Wow, thank you!
dear Roger , every time I need to hear some healthy English accent I tune into your channel
please note < need to> Of bleedin 'course you butcher all them foreign words , you're English , aren't you ?
it's < tzeyes > Nettar you've got it right , Anastigmat wrong , as usual
golden rule for English , Welsh , Scots , and other British subjects is : if you naturally stress the first syllable then you can bet your posterior it's second one you should stress . The syllable you strees naturally and the syllable you pronounce more or less neutrally are your best guide
go against your natural tendency and stress the other syllable ana-STIG-mat you says , anastigMAT is right
admittedly it's a difficult one having four syllables ;Love you , your videos , some of your pics and your effervescence . What a pity they banned smokin' in pubs ( please pron vinnie coz it's German & I'm a bloke )
What is a boss? What is its relation to photography?
You don't know the meaning of the phrase "Like a Boss"?
"Like a boss:" actually no, I don't. (Native English, well, American, speaker; 20 years of shooting with Zeiss Super Ikonta III, but no boss in sight.)
It's a saying Jeremy where if you excel in something or do something very well... "he does it like a boss". In my case the word "boss" in the channel name is a tribute to the guy that inspired me to shoot film. He passed many years ago.
And..... With 20 years experience I imagine you shoot the Zeiss "Like a Boss". 🙂
Please shoot some natural light portraits with this camera at 4.5ft. I bet they turn out great.