Zenless Zone Zero Is MASSIVELY FAILING in China...
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Zenless Zone Zero has had a rather rocky start recently, it has been less than 2 Days since the game released and ZZZ has already garnered a TON of Hate... In this video i talk you through what the Chinese Zenless Zone Zero community think of the game and showcase some of the reviews left on Bili Bili. With games like Wuthering Waves popping off recently Hoyoverse has been under a lot of pressure for this game to succeed...
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Timestamps:
0:00 ZZZ Big Problem
01:28 Player Outrage
05:43 Are These Reviews True?
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#hoyoverse #zenlesszonezero #zzz #zzzero #ellenjoe #zzzguide #zenless #wutheringwaves 
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Have you been enjoying Zenless Zone Zero or no? And Why?!
No, cant even play the game on mobile tho so i dont know if its good or not PGR is just 10gb but still can play smoothly.
mate you rally love mhoyo games no mater what if thy good or no lol you trying your beast to meek the game looking good the game is just bad not good game lol not trach just bad game
@@ecchicm8983 bro your grammar is bad.
"mate you rally love mhoyo games no mater what if thy good or no lol you trying your beast to meek the game looking good the game is just bad not good game lol not trach just bad game"
placed this here in case you edit your reply
Didn't have much hype. Still tried it out. Great music, good animations and character designs.
But the main focus (combat) is locked behind the annoying TV system.
in my early experience, it's like 70% TV, 20% story and 10% combat 💀💀💀
Combat's casual, better than Genshin but worse than WuWa, but that's fine since ZZZ's audience (from what I've experienced) leans to the more casual side, like Genshin. Story's fine from my experience, but there's way too many TV levels, I'm pretty good at getting the grasp of the levels and clearing them, but even then there's way too much.
“Chinese community review bombing the game just because they don’t like it.”
That’s… what negative reviews are for?
And to be honest... They are right. Look at genshin. Mihoyo keeps Fokus on Chinese Playerbase because those know their value... Look at the difference between the freebies between Chinese and westerners. XD I didn't even look at zzz. I will not play anything else from hoyo except genshin. And if genshin stops I will put hoyo and most of the Chinese devs and publisher on my personal bann list. Nothing but drama.
Why is culture becoming so prudish? Why can't people just dislike something without being labelled as trolls and review bombers?
Yeah I've noticed it a lot. Any time there is negative sentiment towards a game, there is immediately tons of people calling it review bombing to try to discredit all criticism.
Because these content creators need traffic and it is created by being outrageous.
Fanboys that reject all criticism have always been around, tbh.
@@justsomerandomguymanFeels unfair to call someone who likes the game a “fanboy”
Problems like this have always existed, people who criticize something that is loved by many have always been called as Idiots whi just don't understand anything, it's always been like this since the day humanity learned to talk about ehat they like and what they don't like
ZZZ : How many Loading do you need?
Mihoyo : yes!
I get bored playing around 30mi
As time passes, it feels like I am right when I say that any game Hoyo releases without "honkai" in its name will get red flags.
And you can tell which hoyo games is more generous by looking at the icon, closed left eye is considered stingy game and vice versa😂
Nice observation
I think both zzz and Genshin share the same game director
That's why they falsely advertise the rewards you get
you can even feel this through the passion for these game by the different teams. Team Honkai is extremely dedicated. If you ever watched one of their Hi3 character design break downs, they talk about it with so much love. Also the Dawei talk where he started crying talking about Hi3 bc that game is like their baby. With a lot of same dev members, you feel that passion in HSR as well, especially with Penacony really umping up the Hi3 references.
Genshin on the other hand.. idk.. I never got the same energy from that
@@linah1998 Exactly.
Well, Honkai Impact is still their pride and joy among the 3 games because a lot of players still love the game even part 1 of the story more than part 2 plus the dev's care about their players and show it through their events Genshin and Honkai Star rail may be better and more popular, but Honkai is still loved.
"expected of the chinese community" is a massive cope tbh, they're sharing the same issues as the western fanbase, the only fanbase thats absolutely inlove with the game is the japanese
Yeah, review bombing after a rough launch/optimization issue is one thing. But the main complaint the community share (both CN and EN) is that the core gameplay is mediocre and boring.
I think it says a lot when your main target audience hates it. It is still valid to say the chinese players are always acting spoiled, but this is a first I’ve seen a reaction like this for a hoyo game.
@@exu7325 optimization can be fixed. A Core gameplay can't be change without overhauling the whole game.
Should've actually release that first to Japan since there's a lot of casual players over there due to playing too many games in both handhelds and phones , ofc they don't whale hard as the Chinese in terms of Hoyo's market, and Cn is their main target in the first place
Of course the jp peeps would love it, it has a shark girl thats still a teenager
If they advertised it for what it is, a casual aesthetic dungeon crawler with lo-fi/slice of life vibes, I think it would have been received better. Because they hyped it up as a complex combat driven game, everyone is left disappointed
Wuthering Waves players when they realize Zenless Zone Zero isn't Wuthering Waves:
@@ParadoxicallibilityWuthering Waves be living in your head rent free.
Anyway have fun playing Brainless Cope Zero
@@Paradoxicallibilityit doesn't have to be like wuwa to be good combat game. Just remove the whole tv bullshit and increase the combat difficulty by making the mobs more aggressive and there you go a good combat game
@@aziz-nationalhaq6511 harder difficulty is for mid to endgame, the game just have a very low entry for mass players they did the same for honkai impact and genshin too, it gets hard aftr u unlock their version of spiral abyss
@@aziz-nationalhaq6511 Yeah you have a fair point.
this is what all style no substance mean.. zzz.. they are fancy and stylish that i agree at least
You've definitely not played the game yet
@@muniruboss i did.. i even got black screen with sg 8+gen 1 which i'm sure probably better than your phone.. it's only a game about long TV, many minigame, chaining combo with 0 punishment.. so don't act like you know stuff
@@muniruboss it's a worse hi3.. that's fact.. if you are kinder you can say it's a hi3 reskin with different concept of urban fantasy
@@muniruboss what strike me as funny is when people have different opinion and tried stating fact.. those who love the game blindly proceed.. oh man this guy not even play.. or oh this guy hater.. kek.. sure bud.. just like the game even the fans is all style no substance.. but i give my honest thought.. the special is flashy it's good for those who like it that way.. but that's all..
Personally, I believe ZZZ is Hoyo’s best written game when it comes to character interaction and presentation. Honkai Impact 3rd has an amazing story but saying but English localization translates lore horribly. For as much as I praise Genshin’s worldbuilding, the start of the game is extremely rough and you have to go through a lot of obtuse writing set pieces before you get to the good stuff. For Zenless Zone Zero, I cannot think of anything to fault the writing on. There is clearly something deeper going on behind the scenes but the focus of the game isn’t convoluted lore, but the heart and soul of our characters. I went into Chapter 2 not expecting to like the Belobog cast as much as I liked the Cunning Hares story arc, and yet the story really endeared me to Koleda and Grace. Sure, Chapter 2’s writing isn’t “deep” but the heart and soul is there. This game is absolutely a worthwhile experience and I have been absolutely loving my time with the game so far
Ellin training Dummies seems more challenging than Zzz Bosses 💀
Ellin dummies from Genshin?
@@maymeoo21 bro after he discovers that beginner enemies are beginner friendly
@@muniruboss Bro after fighting the first boss in the game with Billy and Anby:
Y'all said this about HSR too and yet here we are in the next year with bosses getting nerfed because you bums can't clear them 💀
@@danielbarnes1241 Have you ever seen I mention about Hsr combat before?Coz I did not
Hoyo is past the genshin days where they think they can get 50 million a month and ungodly praise purely from releasing slop, time after time just seem to let their laziness influence their performance, it's still 1.0 but there are high expectations for a proper response, or at this rate people will forget about it after a month
Nah ZZZ probably would earn 60M on mobile alone in its first month, but not because it's a great game, nope, it's because Hoyo fans would always throw money into a game made by Hoyo regardless of whether it's a masterpiece or a crap game it doesn't matter
True and people will use it to discredit other gacha games with better gameplay just because their favorite company sold more
From what I see, this game will be for dumb Hoyo simps, and casual players that will enjoy the combat, either because they don't know any better, actually want a simple kill time experience, or would struggle if it were any harder. So I think it will have its place, but Wuthering really screw them up on raising the bar.
ZZZ will bring insane revenue to hoyo even with it getting mixed revies and not living up the the hype and standard. It's a hoyo game, hoyo = automatic success. But revenue isn't everything, it needs major major improvement/revamp
they likely still earn 50M or atleast 30M Fuck it i dont doubt that theyd get 80m because
first of all its a hoyoverse game
second the majority of people who whales on hoyoverse games dont give a flying fuck if the game is ass
third they have a whole month for release so itll prob show more earnings when reports come compared to wuwa having only 8 days
You have to understand there are bigger idiots than whales that will spend no matter what, there are people who would get all copies of character and all the copies of weapons on each and every single one theyd release
one of those is enough to outweigh a large majority of people who spends on the regular now imagine that but its a hoyoverse fan who thinks all their games are futureproof regardless of controversies
because in all honesty? some people play and whales on the game simply because its hoyoverse
its like the apple of gacha space lmao
The misleading marketing kinda fucked them too. WuWa can say "Join now and get 2 5-star selectors and a third 5 star for absolutely free", and actually mean it.
Then there's HSR, which is fairly beginner-friendly, much more generous, and has much better writing as a whole.
As someone who's been Day 1 for Genshin and WuWa, a regular HSR player, and a Day 1 ZZZ player, ZZZ feels like the weakest game of the bunch by far. WuWa might've been buggy and unpolished, but Kuro gave out so many rewards that I was at least content to tolerate imperfect polish and mediocre VA work.
I think Hoyo underestimates how much giving people a free Standard 5 star OF THEIR CHOICE would encourage people to keep playing. If I could guarantee Nekomiya (the character I want) within the first 50 pulls, then I'd tolerate the mid story and obnoxious UI, but 300 pulls just to guarantee her? Not happening.
EDIT: I got Rina. Who at Hoyo decided ripping off Encore's entire thing and making her design and personality as plain as white bread was ever a good idea? Seriously, why are the characters either children, furries, or white bread?
nekomata fan lol
@@Xetrof Yes, the based catgirl.
Jesus christ you people are pathetic
Honestly, I wanted the dog so that I could focus on pulling Ellen for a team comp or koldea for a stun build. Instead, I got what you wanted, twice... I can't really reroll cause I'm on ps5, and I'm not creating more accounts (not bad character, and I have got a good team so far but if only i could pick what i wanted)
They definitely pull scammy tactic
To me it seems 50/50 Hoyoverse fans hating and making shit up about Wuthering Waves and now saying Wuthering Waves fans making things up about ZZZ it's just crazy
Hi3rd players have no reason to play this game. And the fact they didn't listen to CBT complains about the TV, which they did reduce the amount of TVs but if they're catering it as casual, it's still too much. If a visual novel player like me gets irritated with the TV thing then something is not right which at this point it shouldn't be me. The combat is so casual but the TV takes you away from it. Even people who like flashy stuff might face issues with the TV
@@pauloazuela8488 they should shift that TV to mini game events. If they do not address this by next patch, I am gone as I cannot imagine myself spending more time on that TV system than on actual gameplay.
TV, Loading Screen, size of games, False Advertisement about the rewards etc
Actually the rate on bilibili isn‘t that meaningful,mainly cuz the robots.Manufacturers can spend money to control ratings.And the presence of many brainwashed fans.For example,you can get like ten dislikes in one second if you rate one star to zzz on bilibili,and being scolded by those mihoyo fanboys.
In China,the discussion environment is very bad when it comes to any games related to mihoyo，and many players are forced to choose silence.
(That's also why I came here to watch videos about zzz
(I am not an English user, so the meaning may not be accurate. I hope to convey it as much as possible
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but the game isn't a month old yet, I'm sure since it's Hoyo and they already have a massive chokehold in CN's gacha market. So chances are ZZZ would probably earn like 60M just in mobile alone regardless of how much of a crap we think it is, as Hoyo fans would turn any Hoyo game into a money dump specially in CN 100% guaranteed.
And when that happens this July, Hoyo can just go their merry way as usual which is kinda actually sad.
This has a high chance to really happen, knowing the hoyo fans. It's like they have a cult.
Tbh they just need to make hot characters with fan service ads like Nicole's jiggle physic and Billy slapping his buut cheeck
it will have a rough time in global tho. its in TRENCHES on google trends lmao. honkai starrail having over 2x more searches and even wuwa did A LOT more, but it obviously had a loud release with all the criticism. only JP and CN are looking good. obviously i expect it to make A LOT of money, but with this recognition and marketing it would be weird for this game to flop
Simple solution, just stop playing Hoyo games and start playing games by developers that actually care about their players.
Nope you can not mihoyo its already a cult or even a god of gacha game.
Even a shit if you brand it and tell it its from mihoyo they buy it billions of dollar.
It's simply just that after people experiencing better combat on other games, zzz just arrives to introduce a lower bar, annoying tv, and poor launch rewards with Big GB requirements and Poor Optimization that they suffer this.
I even see a lot of CN streamers mocking the mash combat of zzz with their eyes closed.
i love zzz to be honest. it is a good game to relax. but might stale after a while. but doesn't mean i don't enjoy it.
Me checking my current storage: 👀
Wuthering Waves - 13.37 gb
Zenless Zone Zero - 19.19 gb
Genshin Impact - 28.10 gb
WuWa has the size of the lastest Zeldas and it's a good comparison for map size and graphics.
Buuut... ZZZ is inexcusable.
I think kuro and hoyo should do a collab, hoyo take care of the art, ui and music and kuro responsible for the combat, gameplay, hard content and the rewards that would be the most perfect anime game in the entire history
Kurogames has a terrible reputation in china. I doubt hoyoverse would want to team up with someone like them.
@@lisamarieschnee don't cry baby
Kuro honestly makes better char designs
@@edsterdweCharacter models? Yeah. Characters designs? No, they're okay but not better
@@lisamarieschneeproof plss
Ahh, I have to be honest. After having followed this game's marketing for well over a year, especially cus I love its style and music, its actually quite a shame seeing so many people... online at least, dunking on the game, but I guess its to be expected at the end of the day. If the game has issues, then they need to be corrected, and I think people should be willing to give it a second chance to redeem itself as well. That's what folks did with that Wuthering Waves game, and now a lot of people like it... I think, I'm not sure, I don't play it and can't be asked to.
Beside, a lot of the complaints that I've seen can relatively easily be fixed as well. Reduce the download size, make the combat (specifically, the enemies) more challenging (forcing you to actually engage and strategize), reduce the amount of time spent navigating the TVs or add more combat sections to access, make the UI less cluttered and navigating it easier and more accessible, less yapping in cutscenes, perhaps a bit more of an engaging story (though to be fair, a lot of the issues could just be due to the visual novel style of storytelling, at which point not much can be done).
So long as the ZZZ devs do that and listen to (constructive) feedback from players, I think the game will do fine in the long run, especially since it was made for causals who just want to play a game on their mobiles while on the go or whilst bored.
This.
Yeah they won't do that sadly, in all of their game they never change the core mechanics of the game itself much less changing their UI design 😅. But hey it's mihoyo after all
That doesn’t mean they won’t listen? I am not defending hoyoverse, but each game has their own teams. HSR does listen to their player-base like adding trailblaze storage (2400 cap forgot what it is called), more endgame content, etc.
That might not seem a core gameplay, but HSR does listen to the player-base. For ZZZ dev team, if they do listen to player-base such as making the enemy more aggressive or reducing the time when they should attack the player. Then, I think they may pull it off.
That’s my take if they did listen to their playerbase like HSR. I will still give the game until 1.2 to see how the game goes. This will be part of the side game.
If you want to say they don’t listen, then point at the Genshin dev team.
@@slushymation4053zzz is like genshin
is not golden child and i guaranteed zzz is not on same boat with HSR or Honkai
Blink eye right theory proof it
if you want more proof, just wait for bug compensation later
2:05 GTA V is over 100GB. What are you talking about
Gta online is bloating it
GTA V was originally less than 10gb.
I hated that we all got bamboozled by the 100 pulls for free, my dumb*ss thinked that once i opened up the game i get 100 pulls on mail never knew I had to grind my 100 pulls thank hoyo.😂
In the end, ZZZ will still make bank no matter how mediocre it is just because it's a Hoyo game.
Mihimo and their army of losers 🤣
Yeah watch them still being on top 3 in the revenue chart despite of all these criticisms
@@aziz-nationalhaq6511 If this game was made by other company, I doubt this game would be big.
@@beestek.94 it literally would have been an another tof if it wasn't made by hoyo
I love the setting, I love the characters, I love the combat system. I HATE the damn TV System, the boring story, and the cluttered UI!
Surely they'll improve the game in future versions. I think they made the game easy cuz there are lots of new players that aren't familiar with PGR & Hi3rd type of games. The TV puzzle is confusing, I think it'll be better if they just give the main path for the Tv instead of putting a lot of Tvs in the background
Problem is if they’ll even take feedback, it could be HSR where they listen and that would be great. But it could easily be Genshin where they never listen, I guess only time will tell
@@son-of-1810 True
is a trash game dude , where is R/gachagaming ?
When Wuwa came out they flooded the internet with doomposting and no one is talking about this because the game is the worst gacha release in many years
now you realize how Hoyoshills in this reddit
Theres only one drama post about it so far, and it's not even the game content itself.
I called it, they're not doomposting it despite it has actual problem, the sub have been under hoyo's spell after HSR success.
@@Kramer8that subreddit is hell of a place they'd hate every kuro games including pgr
Wuwu is awesome though, the only problem people had with it, was technical issues, like not being able to run it
The mods suddenly woke up and deleted all the doomposts about ZZZ. However, you can still find a lot of criticism and hate comments in their megathread
The 'issue' with forum sites like Reddit is that they'll always form echo chambers. The main reason being that there are often only a few 'spaces' to talk about a topic (in this case, the ZZZ or gachagaming subreddits). r/gachagaming has become an echo chamber that hates pretty much everything. Heck, non-anime gacha games are taboo there despite the name of the subreddit. Users also have the ability to silence/censor content by simply downvoting new posts once or twice as soon as they get posted, making it impossible for the post to gain traction and reach the front page.
On RUclips, there are multiple independent channels covering a certain topic, allowing for much more diversity in opinions.
the most boring game from hoyoverse,
i already try playing for 2 days (7 hour per day)
i always get mad everytime i see nicole
because of b00b nerfed and censored it
i only got one 5 star grace from pulling
i dislike ellen, bad design char,
i enjoyed in the first time playing
but after more and more hours
the enjoyment decreased and make me sleepy
the game is no fun at all
wuthering waves is far more better
ZZZ Combat is literally shit since the enemies don't even move, not to mention its just a tv simulator, 90% tv and 10% combat, and the combat isn't even mediocre, its shit.
Nah it's good towards the endgame, the tv is shit I agree. But it's not that much compare to the combat unless you're stuck for so long in it. I think it'll be better if they erase the TV's in the background so it won't give a headache
@@plang-plang5035 Its combat aspect is completely a snooze, and bare ass, doesn't compete one bit with WuWa even because it's a pure left click and very occasional space simulator against damage dummy HP sponges. Completely counterintuitive towards its "combat main focus" that the devs itself said. Let's not pretend
@@saturna1576 I wouldn't compare it with Wuwa, I would compare it more with Pgr or Hi3rd. Cuz in terms of switch-in mechanic, it's easier to trigger it. You don't need to trigger it through dodging qte. And the chain reaction feels good & impactful. Sure it's not as flashy & fast as PGR or Hi3rd, but both of em also starts slow at the start, and now they're a fast pace spamming pop up numbers gameplay. Ofc they'll improve the game, just hope it won't make a big power creep difference for the characters.
@@plang-plang5035 PGR wipes the floor with this game thoug, combat is amazing in PGR here ZZZ not really.
@@saturna1576 are they seriously damage sponges? Or are you facing stuff you shouldn't be? Like I get the shield guys taking long but other than that I've literally cleared every level on hard mode (optional to play in a "harder" difficulty after clearing the first chapter), the game's combat is simple yes, but they aren't damage sponges at all.
Also those shield guys are a lot easier when you're using Ice Characters
Also my characters are already doing around 9k Crit so that might be why I'm not experiencing any issues, still f2p though.
I don't know why people keep saying here and elsewhere "maybe Hyv will make some changes." We have watched them for 4+ yrs and they consistently do. Not. Give. Af. They do not care. We will not see a smaller game file. We will not see controller support ESPECIALLY if this is following after HI3rd. And any other player suggestions go into the special filing cabinet. 🗑
I wanted to like this btw. I wanted to like ZZZ. I've played 8+ hrs, 10~. I hate the tvs. The combat was a letdown considering that live stream hyped it up so much. Etc. I wanted to like ZZZ but I'm probably uninstalling soon just to get that unnecessarily massive file off my device.
Nope, most of the reviews have completely valid reasons, like too much minigame and too little combat, not enough action elements also being advertised as an action game, having to do the classic hoyo artifacts, weapons and constellations all over again, powerpoint cutscenes, etc. This youtuber chose to only translate nitpicky comments, despite we can even see the valid comments if we pause and read the comments in the background of this video.
Well here's one thing to review about that game don't notice one of the characters being censored one of the characters is really censorship specifically the female versions 7:44
of course..considered hi3rd still getting huge love in cn..people that play that would be confused with it..why make 2 games with the same element,combat and roaming stage😂,ZZZ combat is not even good bruh..
I expected a fast paced combat game. But the gameplay is only 5% combat. The combat is also super shallow and boring.
The storage size doesn’t even matter as much as the fact that computers with Intel UHD graphics can’t play the game, Genshin and HSR can be loaded up just fine and play smooth af but ZZZ the newest hoyo game doesn’t work on Intel UHD graphics like who made that compatibility choice, how does that even make sense where I can play a 4 year open world game but not an instance based game similar to PGR or Snowbreak Contrainment Zone. Kinda annoying tbh as I was looking forward to the game too
i dont have a pc but the game runs super smooth with the ipad m4
@@YurriPlaysit's ipad I PAD
This is weird
The game runs better than bothGI and HSR on my PC
@@pete4416 so my specs are Core i5, 8GB RAM and i have more than enough storage as its with 1TB SSD, Intel UHD Graphics card, what are yours?. this is a legit complaint on the official zzz reddit as well in the bugs thread
@@akindotunidowu8300 Bruh, youre running UHD and complaining about graphics? Thats a you problem.
They should have make single player game. Players already have no more room for another gacha game unless it’s so damn good to replace the current one
Honestly my only complaints about this game is just the storage and how little characters their are.
But besides those 2 I'm honestly having fun with the game, it's just chill and the combat is fun but understandable why people compare to HI3.
this game feels like pgr concept of mini game + action but they didn't integrate the mini game to the action and combat feels like aether gazer
really wanted to persevere in this one until i found out the gear system is similar to genshin or hsr.
i dont like it on wuwa as well.
im just traumatized by genshin at this point man. 3 yrs playing and still struggle on abyss for a reason i have no control over.
have tons of characters i like and talents leveled but can't be used to clear abyss.
whoever designed the genshin rng gear system deserves death as it spreads to other gacha games as well.
dailies used to be autoplay or autoclear man. good old times
I just thinking atleast in battle it will like wuwa, hard and cruel bossfight but yeah just massssshhh button and win 😔 soo easy no interesting battle mechanics at all for now
For rating on the mobile version in bilibili, from what I have read from the reviews, it got botted by mihoyo
No excuse for the 100gb download game isn't even open world mostly just menus combat is one button is small arenas
Yeah, I gave ZZZ 💤 a chance, and the combat was lame. The story seems a little interesting, but it didn't pull me in. Plus it's too sexualize of younger characters like children and there's the furries.
That brightness review was a sarcasm. ZZZ is known to be dim
I think it's pretty good, not excellent or anything but good. Although I still find it funny that a lot of people says the combat is bad, but it's fine, it's not as bad as they make it out to be. The art style of ZZZ is something I like a lot. The 2d comic scenes kinda reminds me of the old Hi3rd comics
combat = one button press mashing, it's very average to be fair.
It was heavily advertised as a combat action game. I think it’s reasonable for people to be dissatisfied with the actual results.
You use your ultimate 2 times per hour
Tbf, isn't Genshin combat also just one button press mashing?
@@noirsgaming8800 Nope, you sure can spam but literally you need switch proactively and time your skills so you can get a decent reaction or avoid said enemy reaction. But ZZZ? it's way more casual than basic attacking mashing works and you can switch accidentally too , and you don't need to move more to beat enemies as auto targeting helps
Can you imagine if they give rewards as compensation just like Wuthering wave did but we know it’s not gonna happen Also, as of right now, it kind of take around 24 GB also in a way that person is kinda right when they said it is just a reskin Honkai impact 3 just little bit more complex combat that you will get used to it overtime
Actually, HI3 has a way more in depth combat and I am not joking.
Ye I mean ZZZ combat feels like a dumbed down version of Hi3 with more flashy colors. Everything else is kinda mid.
Ppl keep comparing it to HI3rd, but honestly, outside of the basic design of a fast paced action game, HI3rd definitely does it better. Story bosses, especially later ones, actually need u to play properly and focus, the abyss bosses basically all have unique boss mechanics u need to play around, enemeis as a whole dont just hold still as you whack em, characters (aside from the 3 free charas u get at the start of the game) dont just spam basic attack and have special character specific stuff (sorta similar to WuWa's fortes and pgr's character systems, but well, it originated from HI3rd anyway). ZZZ defs has the visual style going for it, but in basically every other respect, HI3rd does it way better imo
When I first pulled for my first 5 star character, I think that any would be fine, but after getting that hammer twintail girl, I lost my will to play this game, the playstyle is just not what I like and it took too much time to reroll
Can't blame them. Game sucks. No idea why they focus so heavily on forcing people read endless dialogues and sitting through hours after hours after hours of that weird tv mechanic
Dude the dialogue is skippable. You don't have to read anything
And if that's something some people like? What about them? Does that invalidate their opinion in your eyes?
@@KaiLoRei so if you remove the dialogues what Is left Is staring a TV With some combat in between lol.
@@MasterBrutthen buddy do anything else with your time instead of wasting it complaining about a FREE gotcha game in someone's comments. This game can exist without you supporting it.
ZZZ fall prey to the typical Hoyo habits, but at least it's very fluid in the combat as opposed to Genshin.
Well, should i b surprised?
The TV shit is really annoying, and the sceneraies are hella repetitive at the start, but I think the main reasons for chinese people to not liking it that much is due to storage, and the lack of chinese representions COMPARED to other mihoyo games, and has focused a bit more on Japanese and western references, China and Japan have sort of a historical hatred between the two especially since WW2, so would make sense
I will say this, even as a casual that doesn't care much about how amazing gameplay is, and is mainly playing ZZZ for aestethic, character designs, and writing, I have issues. Mainly that the way story is shown feels very... choppy?
Like, more often than not, the story will be interrupted by introduction of a new feature, like hollow zero, shopkeepers, different gameplay modes etc. Making storytelling very awkward. It makes you feel overwhelmed, while in actuality there isn't that much happening.
I like the comic style cut scene and the way character express through animation like Cartoon
But the talking slowly became too much that I started skipping them all. The combat is pretty okay, it is better than genshin, but I feel like it is somewhat depend on parry for the full combo experiences. Enemies feel rather easy and just stand there mostly for you to kill them, like genshin hilichurls 😂
The worse part for me is the TV gameplay, it is somehow incredible boring for me, I dozed off multiple times. Ended up uninstall it because of that
it's a bad game
6 hours
80% cutscenes whit useless dialogues that adds nothing to the story 20% and the gameplay is repetitive you fight the same mobs in the same place
all you do is pressing one or two buttons and the character does everything it looks cool but all you do is pressing one buttons spamming attack that's the combat
any game should be good at the second or the third hours
waiting 6 hours to the game to get good is a massive issue
Idk how ZZZ fans thinks it's "blindhate" critique.
@@Kramer8you should see there reddit..they are d riding this game
Especially the r/gachagaming @@PikachuPolice
No... I see waay more wuwa D riding
WDYM in china? Its review bombing here too! 3.3 on Google play as of yesterday
which country? because here in indonesia their review score is 3.9
In india 3.1
@@goodiepie4234 dang
I think HoYo just thought we are HoYO and people will love and spend for this game. I won't drop a dime for zzz. I don't hate it but i don't feel like it's very fun.
for me I found the game boring I dead ass was dozing off as I played it next day felt more like a chore to finish the story
For me the game was 6/10
Pros: animations and cutscenes.
Cons: tv system, boring story and simple combat.
While comparing it to pgr, hi3 and aether gazer, the gameplay looks lackluster and also it forces us to switch characters.
And also they didn't give me a hot S rank character instead gave me a furry so i lost interest quickly.
zzz just release give it a chance
Tbh, i didnt play it because the design seems to cater to people that not me, so oh well,
I play mihoyo games since honkai gakuen 2, so im a bit sad they failed
zzz literally zzz 😪i almost fell asleep at some combat
ZZZ came out with way too much pressure from people. There were already feelings towards this game that made people put this game in a negative light before it even came out. And because of that, those people started this game with the intent to critique the issues that this game would have rather than finding what is enjoyable about this game. This game is not going to be for everybody and that's fine, I'm still finding out if I like it or not but If you're a person that thought in your mind, this game needs to be better than wuwa or HSR or it's not good. That's the reason why you feel the way you do.
Genshin 1.9 review had me crying like 😭 💀
It's an upgrade from the snoozefest that is Star Rail.
Okay time to give us free pulls to appease the Chinese players
Not trying to be based. But in size aspect it's 2x the size of wuwa (on pc at least) and the amount of content doesn't even comparable? Come on man
They could've used this animations and music to another open world game of them ngl or maybe an fps one LOL it's such a waste since the animation could be appreciated more if the combat was more engaging not a repetitive type of shizz the animation was top tier but the gameplay is a big no for me ig.
Unistalled few games to just unpack zzz lmao , whole steam lib
I'm just mad that they wasted all this amazing art and music on a shitty game
Maybe because it's "meh" that they went all in for the appearance.
i played it for a few hours but i quit because it didnt attract me at all , the art style seems too washed out, the story was meh, the combat felt kind of shallow, the hollow is annoying af.
Rip Zenless May Cry
Smh these ytbers ignored the cn controversy surrounding wuwa during its release, double standard much?
The game is ZZZ'ing hard
Oh right😅
If game is trash, you cant sell it for gold.
In the end, a polished turd is still turd.
Yep same with wuwa
boringass combat in a combat-oriented game.. where you mostly play TVs.. hoyo really thought they could get away with this lol
@@lechungus1832 wuwa rent-free living 😂
@@lechungus1832didnt mention wuwa even once but lets say its true for ur sake it still doesnt change that zzz makes u sleep as its name suggest
Yeah, admittedly zzz is literally just a less clunky and better animated version of honkai impact lmao. But im not complaining, i stopped playing honkai because i didnt like the controls and animations
Zenless Zone Zero has been my favorite gacha game so far. I'm sad that so many people hate Zenless. 😞
Fr man, i didn't get any optimization issues and i actually liked the unique mechanisms and stuffs, the story is nice and i personally liked it better than Wuwa(no hate to wuwa, i love it too)
@@animebloodkurenai1997 I really hope that WuWa comes to Playstation Soon. Then I can actually play it.
to be honest dude, this is my honest opinion, everything succs except for the animation and the way they tell the story (the comic and stuff), even the story is mid. it's just boring, dont get me wrong, i played genshin, HSR and WuWa, compared them to this? man it's rough.
@@nizaarahmadfirdaus8391 Ah I see. I have been skipping everything so my experience wouldn't be hindered. Without knowing the story, Zenless has been incredible for me. Try skipping some story
@@normalpair no I mean everything, even if I skip the story, I don't feel everything else, the combat, the TVs, everything. Surely it's a subjective opinion here, at least I hate the game for myself.
its just a lot of whining. its like the third best game like this atm.
mate you rally love mhoyo games no mater what if thy good or no lol you trying your beast to meek the game looking good the game is just bad not good game lol not trach just bad game
i dunno if you've seen my previous videos but...
@@kazahanaedits I know I was following you, but the first thing you said was in a video you say mate : as hoyo plyer like i say the game Does not deserve all the heat for no Reasons but still its just bad game like for me mhoyo is big just thy can meak it batter If you understand what I mean but if you like it play if you dont just don't Reviewbomb is bad no matter what the problem still i like your vides This is why I tell you that I feel that you are biased in this mhoyo games . BTW for azur promilia dev say its will be no wapon banner only charter banner like azur lane so you need to craft them as azur lane plyer i hope this game succeeds . good luck and Thank you for looking at this comment.😊
Yeah I noticed he was tryna lowkey shill for it ... like bro be honest stop the BS
it's safer for him to do that
bc in the future it could get good and if he talked bad about it it's gonna cuz problems so
him not hating is safer if the game turned out to be good or bad he is in a safe spot
that's why he can't say it's bad
it's not a review bombing bad games get bad reviews simple as that
Almost had a stroke reading that 😵💫
Yandev : First time?
Hoyo : Who r even u?
In all honesty, you're better off playing pgr than zzz.
Nah there own people doesn't like there own game
Trully ZZZ
I like the game its decent but not anything special my only gripe with the game is the TV simulation.
which is an actual serious gripe of CBT chinese players and some global participants as well. But look at it now? They didn't listen and proceeds to shove that part in the official launch. Like if they're really targeting casuals why would they do that Tv being a cumbersome thing to do.
3 intertwined fates Cai...3!...a bad reputation goes a long way just ask Disney...Now go on make another game...have another go mate...please have at it
I played for a few hours, and to me zzz is just a pile of trash so I sold my account with that maid character, got some fund for my other gacha games . I'm glad I did it fast enough cause the price of zzz acount is dropping fast.
I love the game
I love ZZZ
I have a good night sleep on day1🥰💤😴
The gameplay is boring; I lost interest after playing for a few hours. The story is mediocre and not very outstanding. It feels like the story is meant for children, with no depth. All the recommendations now are from commercial promotions, with mindless reviews that are disgusting. The gatcha system have a low cash to game resources ratio, and it's nowhere near as other games like Arknights or pay to play games like Nier series or Elden Ring. The cost of drawing a 5-star/S leve character could buy a top game like elden ring, how do they have the audacity to release such a disgusting monetization system? The gameplay doesn't even compare to their own Genshin Impact, which at least has an open world and a decent story. Initially, they hyped it up as comparable to top games in the market, but now it’s just a disappointment. They said they’d give 180 draws, but only 20 are limited draws, and the rest still require grinding. I just don't understand when did the concept of earning gacha resources through tasks and grinding turned into 'gifting.' If that's the case, doesn’t mean their own Genshin Impact have gifted 1000 draws for free by completing all the achievement and ingame content avaliable? All those are on atop of the pity system being 0.6% and 90 pulls for 1 singular guarantee that could be not the rate up or the character you like. Not to mention again on atop of all of those, there’s the dupes system, which really devalues the gacha and pulling resources thats “gifted”. The grid-based gameplay is even worse, because of the slow TV system, many people are already complaining about it even before the game’s official release and they still did nothing about it. Literally with all those add up It really doesn't compare to most other games on the market.
I think we are seeing huge Wuthering Wave backlash. So many people wanting to hate on Mihoyo because they want something better and more free to play friendly. I think that this game is revolutionary when it comes to character design, story and so many other aspects and I actually really enjoy the fighting system. I am also someone who get's really annoyed with games completely designed around a lock-on system. It's also crazy to see that PC players are review bombing it more because of the fact that the controls got to be much harder to handle on mobile. Zenless Zone Zero in my opinion is starting to reach the pinnacle of game design like I can't imagine a better game in this art style. The only thing that can improve is scale.
Art design is a subjective topic lol
@@TheBleedmen I'm confused what statement you are trying to make. If this is about art design. There is no way they could of done this art style better. Everything flows well and nothing looks rough. You might prefer something else, but the art design in this game is top notch no matter what your preference is. Understanding the difference between preference and what is good or bad is important.
Hoyo just got lucky with that C0v!d buff on genshin
lots of loading screens
Zzz is my fav hoyo game so far but the combat is too…meh
ZZZ doesn't have good support for older controllers. I don't know why they just don't import the same code for controller from their older games into this game.
The game doesn't even run on most Intel gpu's so laptop players can't even get in
I run the game just fine on laptop lol and I know ppl who do also
Idk what ur talking about, runs great for me
Well doesn't seem to be working with Intel integrated GPUs, search up unity error ZZZ,
dont say most intel gpu laptop player. just say your laptop 😂 freakk
Its run better than genshin on my laptop
Wait but Wuwa is also similar to HI3, from perfect dodges to QTE's to having unique charged attacks, hell the double dodge cooldown was a balance system from HI3 as well so that people won't spma their dodge. You can say it's taken from PGR but you know damn well what PGR was inspired from, you can say Nier but come on you know which is the more obvious, HELL some of the earlier characters from PGR are mirrors of old HI3 Vakyries. So what's the problem with ZZZ having these mechanics?
I just don’t need another flavor of honkai impact 3rd in my life. The combat is good but it’s not unique even in hoyos own creations. The story tries to rely on random humor to create interest and the exploration is a strange hodgepodge of open vs closed world. It also seems to go just slighghtly too much on the fan service but that’s just a personal ick/cringe
I’m loving the game so far! If hoyo sticks with it for the long term I will too.
good
IDK I like the game in somewhat. I don’t hate it. Nor think it is the best game ever. It’s a game with hiccups. Which again, isn’t a bad thing. I love Honkai Impacr 3rd and PGR so I just think I’ll try ZZZ for a go. Now, just going to pull this hot take right here. I DONT CARE ABOUT GACHA. I played any Gacha Games so far, I never spent money on Gacha at all, not even once. PGR is my fav Hack & Slash Gacha Game. So, I’ll make this honest thing about it. I would say, it is the weakest game compare to HI3 and PGR. But it’s an okay game. Star Rails? Sorry, I don’t like Turn Based and I god damn refused to play any Turn Based games apart from Monopoly or Uno. Not because I don’t like them, but I’m not their Target Audience. Because I like to fight in Real Time. Okay, maybe I’ll play Turn Based games if it is NSFW. But only that. Other than that. Any Turn Based games I played are either Uno or Monopoly and those doesn’t requires internet and only physical objects and pure satisfaction to see your friends expressions when you olay thse games. Other Turn Based games doesn’t do that much of a justice. Despite, people around praised Star Rails on how good it was, I’ll not going to play it. Because I don’t want to play Turn Based Games. Unless Star Rails give me Real Time combat, maybe I’ll play. Anyway, that aside. I do think ZZZ has quite a hiccups and being too overhyped. I wish there’s more to it. Especially the combat systems. Animation literally carries the whole game right now and that’s not good. It should be both gameplay and animation. Wish to see their next patch improves things, or quick patch. Video Games now a days always have hiccups at launched unless it is indie games.