I have used a highly qualified fitter during the last five driver purchases and have found it makes a significant difference in on-course performance. Most of the time the best performing shaft has turned out to be a higher-end product. Last year I was fitted into a PING G430 Max but the best performing shaft among the many the fitter worked into the session was the new version of the Aldila NVS 45, which I initially balked at. Nonetheless, for me where I am with my game (age 75 and a swing speed of 86 MPH), the NVS 45 delivered what I needed in respect to spin, launch, dispersion, and distance. It beat all others in the Ping fitting card and on the fitter's rack. Fitting makes a difference if the customer is willing to consider options. It was a good lesson for this old dog.
looking at the shots shown the AV looked to perform the same or slightly more consistently than the Ventus, the slightly different profiles will make the biggest difference for players.
Stock shafts are ok for slower to mid speed swings but and upgraded shaft makes a whole lot of difference. I have original Vetus Blue 6x and it's a bombing accurate shaft. I got fitted so I reccommend this to anyone looking to upgrade.
The majority of the people watching these are going to be slower to mid speed. You have to give grace to the folks that need to flex for unknown strangers on the internet
It's worth it if the spin gets right. I went in to 2nd, and someone handed me an AD DI. It was undeniable; the spin finally came down for me, and it was more than 10 on average, with better accuracy.
@@benmoisio232camera based launch monitors are better for hitting into a screen or net than radar monitors. Bushnell makes a really good one, and GC3 is great but more expensive. For the best experience you probably would want a laptop to run the software.
@@benmoisio232camera based launch monitors are the best for hitting into a screen or net. Bushnell is really good but has a subscription. GC3 is basically the same but more expensive and no subscription. Uneekor is good in testing I've done too. If this is a duplicate message ignore it 😂 just trying to help
Y’all should do this style review on the Qi10 core model shafts . The diamana t+ 60 S . Be interested in seeing how good that stock shaft is . Thanks good video
There was literally zero difference in performance in any category between these two shafts. As a matter of fact if I had to pick a dispersion circle it would be the Tensei. I guess you just have to keep telling yourself the extra $300 was worth it so you don't cry yourself to sleep at night after shooting the same exact scores from the same spots on your home course ?
Interesting video, in my experience I have found that in most instances the premium upcharge driver shafts such as Fujikura and Accra have given me superior performance so I usually gravitate towards those but this was not so with the Titleist TSR line when the stock Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black beat out several premium shafts including Ventus and Ventus TR so I went with the 65 TX and 75 TX in the TSR2 driver and TSR3 3 wood and I could not be more impressed with their performance.
The Tensei 1K Black is a premium shaft, it just happens to also be a stock shaft. The stock shafts you need to worry about are the "Made For" shafts, unless it's a Ping and the Made For shafts are premium as well.
I’m curious what the “best” stock shafts are. I’ve had tremendous luck with the hzrdus green or black in the past. Thinking about buying another because the stock tensei on my ai smoke is dog water
Hzrdus Black Gen4 is a stock shaft, but is similar quality to premium shafts, hence why it will offer similar performance to premium shafts. It's a great option.
Strange look to that AV Blue. The band color is dark blue whereas the AV Blue in my TSr2 is brighter. Is it a made for shaft, or just an older version of the Tensei? Not sure I trust Callaway or TM with these weird stock options on their websites. Regarding the test, the dispersion and distance differences wouldn't warrant $350 to $400 upcharge for me. Love Fujukura and Mitsubishi shafts though.
With that dispersion and distance difference I would not pay for the premium shaft. But, each person is different as are their experiences with shafts depending on the swing.
Distance isn't why you buy a premium driver shaft. You buy one because you'll simply hit more fairways with a premium driver shaft from an overall standpoint.
I do Launch Squad testing with Srixon and about a month ago was a driver test with the stock shaft in all clubs being the Tensei AV Blue. The numbers with the ZX7 head were crazy good. Seems to be a shaft that times up will with my swing.
wouldn't this be a true comparison if you used two similar shaft profiles??of course the premium spun less it's a completely different design. Also important to consider poor swings get punished more as spin rates diminish.
In what sense? For a stock shaft, it’s good. But it doesn’t fit many players as a very low launch, low spin shaft. Most players in that profile will pay for an upcharge shaft like Ventus Black or DI VF.
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I have used a highly qualified fitter during the last five driver purchases and have found it makes a significant difference in on-course performance. Most of the time the best performing shaft has turned out to be a higher-end product. Last year I was fitted into a PING G430 Max but the best performing shaft among the many the fitter worked into the session was the new version of the Aldila NVS 45, which I initially balked at. Nonetheless, for me where I am with my game (age 75 and a swing speed of 86 MPH), the NVS 45 delivered what I needed in respect to spin, launch, dispersion, and distance. It beat all others in the Ping fitting card and on the fitter's rack. Fitting makes a difference if the customer is willing to consider options. It was a good lesson for this old dog.
looking at the shots shown the AV looked to perform the same or slightly more consistently than the Ventus, the slightly different profiles will make the biggest difference for players.
Stock shafts are ok for slower to mid speed swings but and upgraded shaft makes a whole lot of difference. I have original Vetus Blue 6x and it's a bombing accurate shaft. I got fitted so I reccommend this to anyone looking to upgrade.
The majority of the people watching these are going to be slower to mid speed. You have to give grace to the folks that need to flex for unknown strangers on the internet
It's worth it if the spin gets right. I went in to 2nd, and someone handed me an AD DI. It was undeniable; the spin finally came down for me, and it was more than 10 on average, with better accuracy.
What launch monitor setup do you use? Looking for a reasonable setup that i can setup outside and hit into a net and see shot shape and dispersion
Define “reasonable”. Options range from $200 to $40,000.
@@brocklambert something for a few thousand at most. I already have a tablet so hopefully I can just download an app to see the shot shape and numbers
@@benmoisio232camera based launch monitors are better for hitting into a screen or net than radar monitors. Bushnell makes a really good one, and GC3 is great but more expensive.
For the best experience you probably would want a laptop to run the software.
@@benmoisio232camera based launch monitors are the best for hitting into a screen or net. Bushnell is really good but has a subscription. GC3 is basically the same but more expensive and no subscription. Uneekor is good in testing I've done too.
If this is a duplicate message ignore it 😂 just trying to help
@@benmoisio232 take a look at the Flightscope Mevo Plus. I have one - takes a bit of setting up to get accurate numbers, but nothing too bad.
Y’all should do this style review on the Qi10 core model shafts . The diamana t+ 60 S . Be interested in seeing how good that stock shaft is .
Thanks good video
There was literally zero difference in performance in any category between these two shafts. As a matter of fact if I had to pick a dispersion circle it would be the Tensei. I guess you just have to keep telling yourself the extra $300 was worth it so you don't cry yourself to sleep at night after shooting the same exact scores from the same spots on your home course ?
Does it matter that it seems set for a 3w?
Interesting video, in my experience I have found that in most instances the premium upcharge driver shafts such as Fujikura and Accra have given me superior performance so I usually gravitate towards those but this was not so with the Titleist TSR line when the stock Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black beat out several premium shafts including Ventus and Ventus TR so I went with the 65 TX and 75 TX in the TSR2 driver and TSR3 3 wood and I could not be more impressed with their performance.
The Tensei 1K Black is a premium shaft, it just happens to also be a stock shaft. The stock shafts you need to worry about are the "Made For" shafts, unless it's a Ping and the Made For shafts are premium as well.
I’m curious what the “best” stock shafts are. I’ve had tremendous luck with the hzrdus green or black in the past. Thinking about buying another because the stock tensei on my ai smoke is dog water
Hzrdus Black Gen4 is a stock shaft, but is similar quality to premium shafts, hence why it will offer similar performance to premium shafts. It's a great option.
The best is the one that fits your swing.
Strange look to that AV Blue. The band color is dark blue whereas the AV Blue in my TSr2 is brighter. Is it a made for shaft, or just an older version of the Tensei? Not sure I trust Callaway or TM with these weird stock options on their websites. Regarding the test, the dispersion and distance differences wouldn't warrant $350 to $400 upcharge for me. Love Fujukura and Mitsubishi shafts though.
With that dispersion and distance difference I would not pay for the premium shaft. But, each person is different as are their experiences with shafts depending on the swing.
Distance isn't why you buy a premium driver shaft. You buy one because you'll simply hit more fairways with a premium driver shaft from an overall standpoint.
@@enzy6434That’s why I specifically called out dispersion. In this specific test I wouldn’t buy the shaft vs stock.
I do Launch Squad testing with Srixon and about a month ago was a driver test with the stock shaft in all clubs being the Tensei AV Blue. The numbers with the ZX7 head were crazy good. Seems to be a shaft that times up will with my swing.
Stock shafts are plenty good enough for anyone here. You are not trying to turn pro.
There are definitely stock shafts that I hate, especially the hzrdus rdx line, but I'm with you completely on this point.
Should have done the fake TaylorMade ventus vs ventus velocore
Yes, the Tensei Blue is a premium shaft, has been used by guys on tour, especially in fairway woods still is.
wouldn't this be a true comparison if you used two similar shaft profiles??of course the premium spun less it's a completely different design.
Also important to consider poor swings get punished more as spin rates diminish.
This demonstrate that you better keep your money for a trainer!
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1k black is hard to beat
In what sense? For a stock shaft, it’s good. But it doesn’t fit many players as a very low launch, low spin shaft. Most players in that profile will pay for an upcharge shaft like Ventus Black or DI VF.
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range balls? seriously??