@@walkelftexasrangerit's old school regardless of actives or item names. With the recent seasons of AP Shyv builds it's nice to see Triforce/ Ravenous again.
An important note is that against weaker sidelaners that try to just catch his push and not actually engage, you can either max or put extra points into W second, because the bonus ms it grants will help u chase down oponents NO MATTER WHAT. Is near impossible to run from a Shyvana with 50% bonus ms on a 5-ish sec CD.
@@TheKaratejesus Yes, which is why against weaker sidelaners that want to just run from you, you can either max or put extra points into W second, because the bonus ms it grants will help u chase down oponents xd
This is works really well for my low elo. I just play ranked to get rewards but I have been carrying with this build. This channel is one of the best guides on youtube, short and simple. One person pushed and got three inhibitor and 4 kills. Unstoppable. Thanks for the video.
As a Shyvana top connoisseur myself, i say it's a pretty underrated pick, but it's not a very easy one though, since you need to be very safe in the early game in most matchups, but once you get lvl 6 it's a completely different dynamic.
This is just old shyvana, my first penta ever was with her, you used to go ravenous+trinity always when Titanic didnt exist, and the jg clear was so damn fast, then for some reason Riot decided to make her a mage
Riot never made her a mage, she just had an insane scaling and new AP item and Keystones just made her go that way. She was almost always played as On-Hit like Udyr, Trundle and Yi.
I played Shyv top before the buffs and even then she was sleeper op, the buffs tho plus Tri force changes probably make her disgusting. Thanks again Dobby for making such a good video teaching me so much, just like the Shyvana mid video.
I recently Discovered ad shyv with this exact same build , and its really awesome ! Nice description of shyv in this video . Shyv really fits my playstyle of towertaking , and im in love with it
Shyvana is always my go to first pick top, she don’t really have a hard counter because of how many different things u can build on her, u can do on hit, ap, ad, bruiser, full tank, all with different styles. My personal favorite is triforce Bork+ hulkbreaker+titanic+ gage, for 14 split or frostfire+ Bork+ titanic+ 2 tank item. Frostfire set is the easiest and most op, caz u can utilize everything in the kit, the size up + slow is amazing on her, it gives u more attack range and aoe on Q All bruiser build can do insane damage with REQA, max health dmg, ap damage ad damage, it’s really hard to build against it. Running Lethal temple makes it even better caz of the + range Laning is simple, u play like pussy before 6, farm and poke with E, once u hit 6, use your ult to poke and do short trades, u will have it back caz no top laner can tank her full combo, just REQA and W to run away til they are low. Your only weakness is you need a team that knows how to play 14 split, , you need to hit E to win, you need ghost to win any fights.
This reasoning is why I love playing Rengar top. You can build so many different ways that all change how and who you engage or deal with the enemy team; picking and choosing what your team needs.
@@set4r ye frostfire is really op on her, caz the slow can help you stick on people, she got enough dmg already, so unless you are trying to do the split push set, frostfire is better for team fights
@@artieschmidt3039 it means one person push one lane (probably toplaner) and other 4 push another lane. one of common tactics when u have advantage over enemy team and have strong 1vs1 champion that can drag 2+ people to defend the lane on which the "1" is on
It's 2023... I thought there isn't any improvement on my game as a former master tier player but, Seeing this... The heck... I can almost feel i can go challenger..
Just meet this build on 1 of my matchs, turn out Shyvana has a very broken synergy with tiamat, which is seem to be the core of this build damage early on. If your laner stand on a wave, EW aoe into tiamat proc deal insane overlap damage, on top of E mark on Q seem to proc tiamat 2 times as well (could be a bug). I instantly get chunk 700hp at lv5 with one of these short trade setup, on top of shyv being very fast to run alway right after and avoid counter play. At 6 is basically dragon form E poke till i'm low and dive-able with tiamat overlap. Lucky for me i play a champ that can switch to somewhat ranged combat and can avoid standing in the minion wave, so it's still comeout as a draw lane, but imagine if i'm some slow melee bruiser, i won't stand a chance against the new Shyv build
@@seriousleesin2273 Tentacles should be the same as wards. Ive played alot of Shyvana and haven't noticed the aoe hitting wards when I hit an enemy, but I could be wrong. Heimer turrets and Zyra plants can be hit by abilities, so they will take damage from it.
that's so weird, I'm just seeing this video now but I did this exact strategy with the same build a few days ago on shyvana top, except I used pta because I never played her before
Im not use to comment but hey petu, take it easy, try to relax and recover. We'll be here waiting for your comeback. Come back stronger, and happy new year :)
as much as i love ap shyvana funny very dodgeable dragon E that will one shot most people, i do miss ad shyvana back when you could really duel almost any champ after getting frozen mallet and BC and going dragon, back in my days going AP was troll.
I remember the good ol days. I was Shyvana main during like s3 or smth and then I took a 6 years break from the game. When I came back I couldn't believe how bad of a duelist she had become...
my question is why he doesn't go bork and instead goes ravenous hydra i get that the ad scales really well with her Q and E now, but the psv on bork just seems so good on shyv b4 the buffs, i would go bork -> trinity -> hullbreaker / tank item so i wonder if he also did that too edit: checked, he never played shyvana before the buffs rip
Probably the AoE damage it provides: once you have ravenous hydra, you can oneshot casters with E, and simply kill melee minions with an auto attack after they were hit by it, or focus down cannon and kill the melees from the AoE+W
@@kikikillian1208 i might not remember this correctly, but im pretty sure you can one shot the casters with your first item anyway if u max E (which i do at least) still the extra time probably does allow time to roam, but im not much of one so ig thats why
@@evianwyner8280 yes and no you can see in the video he sometimes maxes E and sometimes maxes Q (i think in the yone matchup he upgrades Q) the reason being is that your damage skyrockets when your E is up because thats where the max hp dmg comes from and levelling E reduces the cooldown from 12 to 8 the Q only gets better after your first item, which you get at lvl 7-9
Are there no ad shyvana jungle mains in korea right now ? Im abusing ap shy jungle in ranked right now and its going good, but the ad build i go for jungle is bork into gauntlet…
I personally find split pushing in urf and makes the enemy team miserable fun. Our definitions of "fun" are different and I respect that. But still, I love split-pushing in urf
I am a noob but i still think AP shyv is better. You can still shove as hard, your E oneshots all creeps excepts canon/supers, your W speed scales off of AP so it's harder to get caught, you deal MASSIVE damage to structures (after a certain point you take down towers so fast that the demolish doesn't get to proc) and you can also help in team fights through Ulti E burst. I would usually ult in a bush that the enemy had no vision and just throw E at an enemy catching them off guard and nuking them it was just goofy. But i guess this build is for Shyv top specifically and you need some form of sustain and tankiness to hold a candle to other bruiser types.
i just met a r3t4rd that played this, 20% win rate in 20 games, thank you for the defeat lol dobby i dont even know you i just knew someone uploaded something stupid like this. thanks again, have a nice day
Using the facts that camps are tankier to your advantage is genius! Has to be especially good into ranged match ups where you normally get punished hard for each and single auto attack.
LOL I play shivana like that all this month, just a small change in the key rune and a couple of items but the rest is the same, and honestly she's the backdoor queen
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is weird see a old school build back in this game and be good
Well not really oldschool, since oldschool build doesn't exist anymore (Rip Frozen Mallet and auto reset on Titanic :/)
@@walkelftexasrangeralso used to build her for onhit like wits end, blade of ruined kings and rageblade
@@walkelftexasranger people used to go botrk hydra on shyvana even before titanic existed
@@walkelftexasrangerit's old school regardless of actives or item names. With the recent seasons of AP Shyv builds it's nice to see Triforce/ Ravenous again.
@@walkelftexasrangerI think he means stacking tiamats
“Backdoor queen that Baus would drool over” - bro knows what he’s doing
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An important note is that against weaker sidelaners that try to just catch his push and not actually engage, you can either max or put extra points into W second, because the bonus ms it grants will help u chase down oponents NO MATTER WHAT. Is near impossible to run from a Shyvana with 50% bonus ms on a 5-ish sec CD.
This is true but Q ratio goes from 20% to 100% with levels I think
@@TheKaratejesus Yes, which is why against weaker sidelaners that want to just run from you, you can either max or put extra points into W second, because the bonus ms it grants will help u chase down oponents xd
why? just take ghost instead of flash
@@lilpullout or instead keep Flash for emergency situations when W will give you the MS you need lmao.
This is works really well for my low elo. I just play ranked to get rewards but I have been carrying with this build. This channel is one of the best guides on youtube, short and simple. One person pushed and got three inhibitor and 4 kills. Unstoppable. Thanks for the video.
As a Shyvana top connoisseur myself, i say it's a pretty underrated pick, but it's not a very easy one though, since you need to be very safe in the early game in most matchups, but once you get lvl 6 it's a completely different dynamic.
Oldtrox was the same funnily enough. You farm safely with E, heal with W Blood Thirst, and Q into W Blood Price to trade.
@@randomrfkovif you all in as old aatrox at lvl 2 -3 you would win
@@randomrfkov I miss oldtrox... My first main was stripped from me
@@Sniper0502ong
@@Sniper0502 Now it's riven 0.5 because he is even clunkier than her.
1vsall and his fetish of taking junglers top. Truly a man after my taste.
He also played a lot of trundle before the shyvana buffs
Ady also did the same thing with Shyvana. And that guy takes supports top.
This is just old shyvana, my first penta ever was with her, you used to go ravenous+trinity always when Titanic didnt exist, and the jg clear was so damn fast, then for some reason Riot decided to make her a mage
Even before then you went botrk sunfire and the sort during the time it was Shyvana Mundo meta around season 3 or 4.
@@homiga1 season 4 shyvana was the only champion that could kill mid-game master yi with feral flare
Where frozen mallet
Riot never made her a mage, she just had an insane scaling and new AP item and Keystones just made her go that way. She was almost always played as On-Hit like Udyr, Trundle and Yi.
@@randomrfkovnow they made udyr ap, i miss ad but ap udyr is just better so...
Shyvana is a character I always want to play but never actually play due to how boring she ends up being
the rework will fix that
You are just bad
Exited for the rework too, just need to wait 2 more years
@@Pantheon_y double it and give it to the next person
@@Davidyno hope they don't change the R/ E in the R
Nice waking up, having breakfast and the first video I see opens with Quinn players getting what they deserve. Thanks Dobby!
Backdoor Queen was my old nickname
that backdoor must have had a lot of visitors then!
@@rk-li9ksit’s like I know what you mean
@@wuhu0 I read this in Dantes voice
I played Shyv top before the buffs and even then she was sleeper op, the buffs tho plus Tri force changes probably make her disgusting. Thanks again Dobby for making such a good video teaching me so much, just like the Shyvana mid video.
She was even better with the dd, conqueror, RH and SV combo.
Lost it when you told people to Shyvana all over the rift, truly one of the guides of all time.
Shy on my Vana
This is fun. I just play safe early and turn into a god split machine. Sick video, amazing work as always Dobby.
Excellent ;)
I have been playing full on hit shyvanna toplane recently and it is really good with PTA because of the auto Q combo.
oh THAT kind of backdoor queen
Jaymo strikes again
JAYMO THE GOAT 🗣
That's a wild thumbnail brother
I recently Discovered ad shyv with this exact same build , and its really awesome ! Nice description of shyv in this video . Shyv really fits my playstyle of towertaking , and im in love with it
This type of guide is amazing, great work
i like the new music that you're putting in your videos ;d
ty :)
i miss the season 3 jax/renek/trundle/shyvana toplane meta
this vid makes me wanna play league again
Don’t do it you’ll regret it
don't
Shyvana is always my go to first pick top, she don’t really have a hard counter because of how many different things u can build on her, u can do on hit, ap, ad, bruiser, full tank, all with different styles.
My personal favorite is triforce Bork+ hulkbreaker+titanic+ gage, for 14 split or frostfire+ Bork+ titanic+ 2 tank item.
Frostfire set is the easiest and most op, caz u can utilize everything in the kit, the size up + slow is amazing on her, it gives u more attack range and aoe on Q
All bruiser build can do insane damage with REQA, max health dmg, ap damage ad damage, it’s really hard to build against it. Running Lethal temple makes it even better caz of the + range
Laning is simple, u play like pussy before 6, farm and poke with E, once u hit 6, use your ult to poke and do short trades, u will have it back caz no top laner can tank her full combo, just REQA and W to run away til they are low. Your only weakness is you need a team that knows how to play 14 split, , you need to hit E to win, you need ghost to win any fights.
your build works 10x better, this build looks easy to outplay
This reasoning is why I love playing Rengar top. You can build so many different ways that all change how and who you engage or deal with the enemy team; picking and choosing what your team needs.
@@set4r ye frostfire is really op on her, caz the slow can help you stick on people, she got enough dmg already, so unless you are trying to do the split push set, frostfire is better for team fights
What is 14 split? Split push at 14 minutes?
@@artieschmidt3039 it means one person push one lane (probably toplaner) and other 4 push another lane. one of common tactics when u have advantage over enemy team and have strong 1vs1 champion that can drag 2+ people to defend the lane on which the "1" is on
It's 2023... I thought there isn't any improvement on my game as a former master tier player but,
Seeing this... The heck... I can almost feel i can go challenger..
DOBBY WITH ANOTHER BANGER!
thats a crazy thumbnail to title back door queen
Whenever Shyvana finally gets her planned rework sometime within the next 10 years, I really gope Riot keeps the build variety she has now.
I think she the next champ getting reworked 😮
She doesn't need rework, visual update would be enough
as always nice video and nice music
These videos are how I have fun playing league
I'm going to try it thank you Dobby
JAYMO WAS ONTO SOMETHING
YoOrick gameplay tho 😎
shyvana top right now is so fun it reminds me of the old days when i started playing her for the first time and really enjoyed it
I just tried this build and I gopt out of my red carpet thank u dobby
never been this fast to your channel before
Thank you :)
Just meet this build on 1 of my matchs, turn out Shyvana has a very broken synergy with tiamat, which is seem to be the core of this build damage early on. If your laner stand on a wave, EW aoe into tiamat proc deal insane overlap damage, on top of E mark on Q seem to proc tiamat 2 times as well (could be a bug). I instantly get chunk 700hp at lv5 with one of these short trade setup, on top of shyv being very fast to run alway right after and avoid counter play. At 6 is basically dragon form E poke till i'm low and dive-able with tiamat overlap. Lucky for me i play a champ that can switch to somewhat ranged combat and can avoid standing in the minion wave, so it's still comeout as a draw lane, but imagine if i'm some slow melee bruiser, i won't stand a chance against the new Shyv build
It is so fun! TY for sharing dude much love
Puts Trundle to shame.
Counters: Trundle
amazing my fav champ! im back into the game i guess ) ty for vid!
Great !
so nice to see my first bought champion back in top
finally a good video title
this brings me back to season 4 pro meta with shyv top
So that's why I played against a top Shyv yesterday. Pretty fun to fight tbh as a Shen player (basically a cooldowns game)
4:07 can't he just auto illaoi here because the q counts as 2 autos and is AOE? or does the damage to enemies nearby only count as a single auto?
The AOE or Cleave affect on her dragon form Q won't hit wards unless they are the main target.
@@Niremo what about tentacles, zyra plants, heimer turrets and so on? Thx bzw
@@seriousleesin2273 Tentacles should be the same as wards. Ive played alot of Shyvana and haven't noticed the aoe hitting wards when I hit an enemy, but I could be wrong.
Heimer turrets and Zyra plants can be hit by abilities, so they will take damage from it.
Thanks to this I've become Shyvanna one trick!
Is there a way to change the in game text font? I like this font for the gold when farming much more than whatever mine uses
I remember this playstyle being so OP when old Shojin was around.
Backdoor Queen HUH
that's so weird, I'm just seeing this video now but I did this exact strategy with the same build a few days ago on shyvana top, except I used pta because I never played her before
Im not use to comment but hey petu, take it easy, try to relax and recover. We'll be here waiting for your comeback. Come back stronger, and happy new year :)
the jaymo tech 🔥
"Tower damage that puts Trundle to shame"
>Trundle listed as main counter
Guess I know which champion is being played if I ever see a Trundle ban haha
Glad to see someone still plays shyvana ad, instead of that popular pu55y shyvana ap crap
what do you do when an oponent matches you in the side lane and just sits under turret to clear minions. Dive can be difficult before hull
thanks for trick man
as much as i love ap shyvana funny very dodgeable dragon E that will one shot most people, i do miss ad shyvana back when you could really duel almost any champ after getting frozen mallet and BC and going dragon, back in my days going AP was troll.
I remember the good ol days. I was Shyvana main during like s3 or smth and then I took a 6 years break from the game. When I came back I couldn't believe how bad of a duelist she had become...
Is e max first still best at 13.15? Instead of q max or w max first? And what about for shyvana jungle?
my question is why he doesn't go bork and instead goes ravenous hydra
i get that the ad scales really well with her Q and E now, but the psv on bork just seems so good on shyv
b4 the buffs, i would go bork -> trinity -> hullbreaker / tank item so i wonder if he also did that too
edit: checked, he never played shyvana before the buffs rip
Probably the AoE damage it provides: once you have ravenous hydra, you can oneshot casters with E, and simply kill melee minions with an auto attack after they were hit by it, or focus down cannon and kill the melees from the AoE+W
@@kikikillian1208 i might not remember this correctly, but im pretty sure you can one shot the casters with your first item anyway if u max E (which i do at least)
still the extra time probably does allow time to roam, but im not much of one so ig thats why
@@kadalixbut the
whole point is the q max
@@evianwyner8280 yes and no
you can see in the video he sometimes maxes E and sometimes maxes Q (i think in the yone matchup he upgrades Q)
the reason being is that your damage skyrockets when your E is up because thats where the max hp dmg comes from and levelling E reduces the cooldown from 12 to 8
the Q only gets better after your first item, which you get at lvl 7-9
Seen bwipo play a lot of it recently, it's really strong
Been doing this for a few seasons now, have you tried hybrid? ;)
Backshots queen
Are there no ad shyvana jungle mains in korea right now ? Im abusing ap shy jungle in ranked right now and its going good, but the ad build i go for jungle is bork into gauntlet…
cant wait to run it down with this build :D
Did you record the clips in normal games yourself and montage them? Not a pro streamer or clipped montage?
this is just a good shyvana player. ravenous hydra and trinity is very good for clear, dueling and destroying towers
aaaah yeah, shyvana back in top meta since season 10 when death dance gave lifesteal, what a times
Right as I watch this video queqe pops and I'm up against an AD lethal Tempo Shyvana top lmao
he’s gonna play this now
Imagine if Frozen Mallet was still alive lmaoooooo
the key to shyvanas damage is hitting her mark... the q just makes it better lmao
You can hit lv1 if starting Q, because u can stack up lethal temple really fast compare to anyone else
Rip. I've been playing with this build for a while and it was really fun
I always play AD bruiser Shyvana in URF. She's probably the fastest split-pusher there
why would you split push in urf bro :D urf is supposed to be fun where you just fight each other for the sake of fighting
I personally find split pushing in urf and makes the enemy team miserable fun. Our definitions of "fun" are different and I respect that. But still, I love split-pushing in urf
Singed and Shyvana top are very underrated picks that if u know how to play u can carry a full game for free
I think ignite + tp will be better since the turret bonus is available before 14mins.
I am a noob but i still think AP shyv is better. You can still shove as hard, your E oneshots all creeps excepts canon/supers, your W speed scales off of AP so it's harder to get caught, you deal MASSIVE damage to structures (after a certain point you take down towers so fast that the demolish doesn't get to proc) and you can also help in team fights through Ulti E burst. I would usually ult in a bush that the enemy had no vision and just throw E at an enemy catching them off guard and nuking them it was just goofy.
But i guess this build is for Shyv top specifically and you need some form of sustain and tankiness to hold a candle to other bruiser types.
Dobby you don't have any Kayle's video😢 Will you make a Kayle tips and tricks video please 🙏🏼🥺(Top+Mid) thank you.
I am doing the old school udyr cuz ppl seem to not know his Q can instakill with ad build
I don't know what shyvanna does button ✅
Im guessing the 4th item he builds if the game goes longer is shojin.
shojin > steraks
i just met a r3t4rd that played this, 20% win rate in 20 games, thank you for the defeat lol dobby i dont even know you i just knew someone uploaded something stupid like this. thanks again, have a nice day
12 games with this build, 1 lose. ez
So what is the complete build?
Backdoor queen is quite a title 🤔
Too little inting for Bauffs. Reminds me a bit of the goldden times when we had Devourer. That was fun.
Using the facts that camps are tankier to your advantage is genius! Has to be especially good into ranged match ups where you normally get punished hard for each and single auto attack.
How did the quinn dash in the first clip?
Edit: I see, got purposely hit by shy ult, canceled vault.
see i love doing this....i only go attackspeed when i do this but its funny just staying in dragon form because i just keep autoing
wait untill you see bruiser naafiri with one legendary item, hydra and fighter items for the rest.
LOL I play shivana like that all this month, just a small change in the key rune and a couple of items but the rest is the same, and honestly she's the backdoor queen
I was gonna say "this is like trundle but with gapcloser" and then your "tower dmg than puts to trundle to shame" comment pops up at that exact moment
I just realised on the second watch of the 0:18 clip that Shyvana gets heaps tankier the moment Tristana dies because of Hullbreaker lol.
She now only lives in my dreams..
isnt ap spiking ealier on shyvana and better?
I literally see this in all my Korean games gold/plat elo
This has been Dobby with NatGeo
oh yeah full metal rammy thats what i like to see
No one gonna talk about the “Backdoor Queen” from the thumbnail 💀💀
Ayo Dobby, what do you think of sineria's yi now that he is in korea,
That'll be good !
It's kind of ironic that you first say Shyvana's split push puts Trudle's to shame and at the end have "counters: Trundle" lol