i like how this guy doesnt bloat his videos like big tech people do, instead he just gets to the point this guy doent deserve 90k subs , he deserves 90 million
0:58 the little ridge that goes around the brass fitting fits in the NVME drive recess where the screw would normally secure it to the post and acts as a sort of retention bracket or tab for the drive. It screws into the board from the other side. Many PCIE NVME/M.2 SATA adaptors use them because they're about as low profile as you can get. It acts as both the post and the screw, this way board doesn't have an m.2 nut that has to be removed to fit a longer m.2 drive.
I’ve given up waiting for the Argon Pi5 NVME case (my delivery date keeps moving backwards) so I’ve just ordered one of the 2280 versions of this from Amazon and as a Prime order it will be delivered tomorrow by 1pm. When the Argon one eventually arrives I’ll compare the running temps with 2280 SSDs. Thanks for the timely video. 👏
Yo ordene igual de Amazon prime el X1001 marca GeekWorm y me llego en 7 días y vivo en Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 zip code 00725 y pues este fin de semana ya la haré todo el montaje y pregunta que diferencia tiene de esa que orden con la que sale en el video o la que mencionas?
I think I'm going to hold out for the Argon case, due to the WiFi problem. I have an Argon case on one of my pi 4s and with the plastic bottom shell, it doesn't seem to interfere with the WiFi at all. I have two of my pis on ethernet, but there is no cableing to the room my desk is in, and I have no intention to crawl in the attic or crawlspace to run one.
@@jbuchana you could try powerline ethernet adapters. You don’t really get the speed they say they’re good for generally butbut you can get fast enough.
@@jbuchana I get around this by connecting a remote Pi4, running as a Roon Endpoint in a Pi Touch case which isn’t good for Wi-Fi , to an Ethernet PoE switch and the switch is then connected to a UniFi Wireless Access Point via Ethernet which also powers the AP. I also have 3 other devices in that room connected to the same Ethernet switch and they all share the Wi-Fi connection with no performance problems. [I live in a 300 year old house with very thick solid walls so I get really annoying dead spots].
I'm glad you answered the question I was going to ask about using a metal case and how it affects wifi. My signal is not great as it is with a plastic case, so I'll pass on this metal one. I was impressed that it holds the Pi with the M.2 HAT.
Great case, keeping the raspberry pi OS quite cool.. SD card once inserted in some cases are hard to take out, just because how they mold it, and how it overlaps the complete socket. This doesn't seem to be the issue with this very case here. It is kind of a bummer, that the wifi turned out weak. That is the only thing keeping me away from this. Thanks Lee. By the way Lee, Update on Crimson OS: XFCE version was uploaded and today I will upload the LXQT version and finally the Crimson Desktop Edition (CrDE) tomorrow. A thing to note: upon installing an app from pi-apps, it initially opens up a terminal and yellow highlighted text begins to appear informing that system is incompatible. However, an additional script has been provided which works after 10 seconds of the message. Thus, an app installation will require 10 seconds wait-time before it actually initializes the install process. The reason for this behavior is forking various branches, repositories, which the pi-apps thinks are incompatible. Whenever You Get Time, Thanks, Another Great Video, Pradyot Pachore
I just put one together with this case, a official cooler and a 1001 NVME adapter. I like it!
9 месяцев назад
Thanks for checking WiFi with the case, that was missing in the review of the previous 52Pi metallic case. Just FYI, I have that other one case and the WiFi signal does not get as much affected as with this one.
Very good that the PCB and case top have holes for the air flow. Why don't they put the M.2 on the side of the board instead of right above the CPU? An alternative option is to have the M.2 2242 / 2230 *orthogonal to the board, and near the USB plugs* (with a hole in the PCB board where the CPU is located) to keep the air flowing off the CPU. *KDiskMark*, the HDD / SSD benchmark tool, is also very convenient for speed tests (Qt based, no dependencies to KDE although the name may suggest the opposite)
I still feel that the ssd belongs on the bottom so that it is easier to cool the cpu. Maybe I'm wrong but blocking the cpu cooling just doesn't work for me. Thanks for all you share. Maybe all those holes for cooling will work. I'm sure you'll tell us at some time.
I got the Geekworm NVME hat and metal case. Seems similar to this setup. Really solid setup and works great. My only complaint is that the Geekworm case doesn't do anything special with the power button like the official case does.
I'd like to see more head to head comparisons of these with the Geekworm P579/X1001 combo as they're awfully similar in design and price. Which is better?
Did you have to take it apart to plug the active cooler into the fan socket? Saw that it wasn't connected when the hat was reattached after popping the cooler onto the rpi5.
Great video, thanks. Do you think that (buying the N05 and the Metal Case For Pi5,support N04 & N05 & Active Cooler) there is space enough to use a NVMe with a heatsink or the heatsink occupy too much space? Thanks
Some smaller heatsinks will fit, the NVME doesn’t get too hot in my experience with Pi 5. Maybe in a hot climate. More tests with nvme temps shown here Raspberry Pi 5 Overclocking beyond 3Ghz. 4GB & 8GB models Benchmarked ruclips.net/video/3zlteWp6ro0/видео.html
Hi, after watching your video I decided to bite the bullet and get my Pi5 and the various bits you mention in this video as this was the build route I had chosen, but had not decided on a case (was going with an Argon), so thanks for the video. On the Pi Hut website they place the Patriot P310 in the not fully compatible bracket, have you noticed any issues? I bought it anyway.
@@leepspvideo Cool thanks - just built up the 52pi and noticed that mine came with a different top? The image on Amazon clearly shows the same top as your with lots of holes, however my lid only has 3 x fan shaped cut outs?
I am impressed how smooth the operating system is running on your pi5. I have tested you latest build but it not that fluent. I have the 4gb version, but i doubt that for normal use there is a difference. Is your system overclocked maybe ?
I respect the engineering here but is that fan intake not being blocked on top with all the solutions? Unfortunately the major fail of all this is either not allowing enough height for airflow OR if it's underneath then it'd be potentially blocking several ports with a ribbon cable (unless it was customized in some other way).
Being new to Pi’s I’ve got a Pi5 on order, that case and I think the same hat and similar drive. I will be putting Home Assistant on it though. Will I still be able to update the settings like you did to make the drive faster or is that just for Pi Operating system?
@@leepspvideo Brill thanks. Is the only way to get to that file to put the Pi operating system on connect to a monitor and then Terminal to it like in your video? As I said I'm going for Home Assistant so would access it remotely after I've installed the Home Assistant OS. I haven't got a monitor available I'm all Macs in my house.
Awesome share, big thank you! I have a question, I manage to connect to my pi with VNC and Pi Connect but my UI is not as in your video, the only theme I have is Pi OS standard but with Windows 11 icons and I can’t switch layout, I manage to get the menu and when I tried I got a to the log in screen (not pi os style) and when I typed in my password I get a black screen and then I’m back to the log in screen again. What should I do? I’m new to Pi’s and haven’t got any hdmi cable adapter yet so I need to fix this hehe. Thanks
So many hindrances with that annoyingly placed PCI cable... I'm waiting on the CM5 version to which Waveshare will surely add the M.2 slot right underneath exactly like the brilliant CM4 version
I have found the problem is usually the nvme drive. Not the various nvme hats I have which NVMe drives work with a Raspberry Pi 5? ruclips.net/video/3mUgVTBmKio/видео.html
Almost looks like it could take a Pimoroni NVMe base on the bottom, almost. Bit more space and ribbon cable consideration would be the crux there. Prefer a base-fitted one, keeps your cooling options open. Using a modded Raspberry case with mine currently, and NVMe base works well. But really would like a metal larger one when the market selections stabilise, or something that's just - that one jumps out. Have to pop the lid off the Rasberry one for those peak moments and the heatsink cooler(good price that one Raspberry).
Straight up pi5 with nvme is as performative as a $400 laptop 6-7 years ago which imo is pretty impressive and unlike that old machine is still supported
Where have I seen a computer of this size and specification(or better) with a case and nvme slot already included for an altogether better price before? Maybe I am hallucinating?
Hi, does this case work with bottom SSD hat ( Geekworm X1002 PCIe to M.2 ) ? It does look similar to to Geekworm's official case, but not sure if that bottom SSD hat will fit in here or not.......
@@Nikhil-gm8ks probably, although I now recommend gpio powered nvme boards as the ribbon cable alone seems to be slower and causes problems if you plug in extra usb devices ruclips.net/video/f8Ou6VkuF4w/видео.htmlsi=cvvjthYXtLIVtzv0
I got my Raspberry pi 5 B 8Gb today, With the same NVME adapter as the one in the video. I put them together m.2 nvme in and was recognized immediately. ask? I don't have the settings in the firmware config either and my config looks different than yours. Should I still add the pciex1 parameter?
@leepspvideo Thanks for the info👌👍👍👍 Samsung 960 EVO 250GB Sequential write speed 748982 Random write speed 161022 IOPS Random read speed 211406 IOPS Test PASS
I think it still would. Just checked definitely doesn’t work on the bottom. I value being able to quickly swap drives. Most people wouldn’t keep swapping nvme drives
Same - I'd like to put a PoE hat on top, and an NVME SSD on the bottom (hopefully the PoE hat will be out soon, and will fit with the active cooler...)
This case is very similar to the Geekworm one and that one does work with a bottom NVME hat. As mentioned the printed on board wifi antenna of the RP5 is not going to work well in a metal case. Blue tooth possibly as well
The NEO 5 is better nvme is on the bottom and does not bloekc the ariflow , and yoiu to use ehternet if using a meteal case because wifi is not the grreates as one can imagine, i have one plstic case for rpi 5 without nvme and use Ubuntu + Kodi for playing movies and the other ons ia NEO 5 metal case without nvme and the third one is NEO 5 with nvme and a 1 TB SSD on board also with Ubntu 23.10 on it, works fine.
i like how this guy doesnt bloat his videos like big tech people do, instead he just gets to the point
this guy doent deserve 90k subs , he deserves 90 million
Hehe, I'll never not get a chuckle at the little "thanks Jeff" in there 😂
Thanks Jeff 👍🏻
0:58 the little ridge that goes around the brass fitting fits in the NVME drive recess where the screw would normally secure it to the post and acts as a sort of retention bracket or tab for the drive. It screws into the board from the other side. Many PCIE NVME/M.2 SATA adaptors use them because they're about as low profile as you can get. It acts as both the post and the screw, this way board doesn't have an m.2 nut that has to be removed to fit a longer m.2 drive.
Thank you
I’ve given up waiting for the Argon Pi5 NVME case (my delivery date keeps moving backwards) so I’ve just ordered one of the 2280 versions of this from Amazon and as a Prime order it will be delivered tomorrow by 1pm. When the Argon one eventually arrives I’ll compare the running temps with 2280 SSDs. Thanks for the timely video. 👏
Yo ordene igual de Amazon prime el X1001 marca GeekWorm y me llego en 7 días y vivo en Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 zip code 00725 y pues este fin de semana ya la haré todo el montaje y pregunta que diferencia tiene de esa que orden con la que sale en el video o la que mencionas?
I think I'm going to hold out for the Argon case, due to the WiFi problem. I have an Argon case on one of my pi 4s and with the plastic bottom shell, it doesn't seem to interfere with the WiFi at all. I have two of my pis on ethernet, but there is no cableing to the room my desk is in, and I have no intention to crawl in the attic or crawlspace to run one.
@@jbuchana you could try powerline ethernet adapters. You don’t really get the speed they say they’re good for generally butbut you can get fast enough.
@@ericg7490 Something to try! I could also get a USB ethernet adapter that would be outside the metal case. Two things to think about...
@@jbuchana I get around this by connecting a remote Pi4, running as a Roon Endpoint in a Pi Touch case which isn’t good for Wi-Fi , to an Ethernet PoE switch and the switch is then connected to a UniFi Wireless Access Point via Ethernet which also powers the AP. I also have 3 other devices in that room connected to the same Ethernet switch and they all share the Wi-Fi connection with no performance problems. [I live in a 300 year old house with very thick solid walls so I get really annoying dead spots].
Would love to see a case that supports both NVMe and PoE.
Great video but would be nice to compare wi-fi speed with and without case. I have concerns about metal case that is not for outdoor usage.
I'm glad you answered the question I was going to ask about using a metal case and how it affects wifi. My signal is not great as it is with a plastic case, so I'll pass on this metal one. I was impressed that it holds the Pi with the M.2 HAT.
Great case, keeping the raspberry pi OS quite cool.. SD card once inserted in some cases are hard to take out, just because how they mold it, and how it overlaps the complete socket. This doesn't seem to be the issue with this very case here. It is kind of a bummer, that the wifi turned out weak. That is the only thing keeping me away from this. Thanks Lee.
By the way Lee, Update on Crimson OS: XFCE version was uploaded and today I will upload the LXQT version and finally the Crimson Desktop Edition (CrDE) tomorrow.
A thing to note: upon installing an app from pi-apps, it initially opens up a terminal and yellow highlighted text begins to appear informing that system is incompatible. However, an additional script has been provided which works after 10 seconds of the message. Thus, an app installation will require 10 seconds wait-time before it actually initializes the install process.
The reason for this behavior is forking various branches, repositories, which the pi-apps thinks are incompatible.
Whenever You Get Time,
Thanks,
Another Great Video,
Pradyot Pachore
I just put one together with this case, a official cooler and a 1001 NVME adapter. I like it!
Thanks for checking WiFi with the case, that was missing in the review of the previous 52Pi metallic case. Just FYI, I have that other one case and the WiFi signal does not get as much affected as with this one.
Very good that the PCB and case top have holes for the air flow. Why don't they put the M.2 on the side of the board instead of right above the CPU? An alternative option is to have the M.2 2242 / 2230 *orthogonal to the board, and near the USB plugs* (with a hole in the PCB board where the CPU is located) to keep the air flowing off the CPU. *KDiskMark*, the HDD / SSD benchmark tool, is also very convenient for speed tests (Qt based, no dependencies to KDE although the name may suggest the opposite)
I still feel that the ssd belongs on the bottom so that it is easier to cool the cpu. Maybe I'm wrong but blocking the cpu cooling just doesn't work for me. Thanks for all you share. Maybe all those holes for cooling will work. I'm sure you'll tell us at some time.
With the holes in the board and the gap between the NVME and the board airflow is still very good
@@leepspvideoThanks
I got the Geekworm NVME hat and metal case. Seems similar to this setup. Really solid setup and works great. My only complaint is that the Geekworm case doesn't do anything special with the power button like the official case does.
3:20 did you plug in the fan?
@@user.A9 yes I did after testing
I'd like to see more head to head comparisons of these with the Geekworm P579/X1001 combo as they're awfully similar in design and price. Which is better?
Did you have to take it apart to plug the active cooler into the fan socket? Saw that it wasn't connected when the hat was reattached after popping the cooler onto the rpi5.
I did
Great video, thanks. Do you think that (buying the N05 and the Metal Case For Pi5,support N04 & N05 & Active Cooler) there is space enough to use a NVMe with a heatsink or the heatsink occupy too much space? Thanks
Some smaller heatsinks will fit, the NVME doesn’t get too hot in my experience with Pi 5. Maybe in a hot climate.
More tests with nvme temps shown here
Raspberry Pi 5 Overclocking beyond 3Ghz. 4GB & 8GB models Benchmarked
ruclips.net/video/3zlteWp6ro0/видео.html
Just ordered #4 NVme Adapter and Patriot P310 2280 SSD😎
Does the N05 add-on fit the original pink and white case by raspberry pi for the raspberry pi 5
Hi, after watching your video I decided to bite the bullet and get my Pi5 and the various bits you mention in this video as this was the build route I had chosen, but had not decided on a case (was going with an Argon), so thanks for the video. On the Pi Hut website they place the Patriot P310 in the not fully compatible bracket, have you noticed any issues? I bought it anyway.
No issues with the patriot it’s my main drive
@@leepspvideo Cool thanks - just built up the 52pi and noticed that mine came with a different top? The image on Amazon clearly shows the same top as your with lots of holes, however my lid only has 3 x fan shaped cut outs?
I am impressed how smooth the operating system is running on your pi5. I have tested you latest build but it not that fluent. I have the 4gb version, but i doubt that for normal use there is a difference. Is your system overclocked maybe ?
I use an nvme drive for the best performance. If it’s still slow drop the desktop resolution to 720. I am rarely Overclocked on Pi 5 when running KDE
@@leepspvideo I will migrate to an nvme drive tomorrow, this will make a change for sure.
I respect the engineering here but is that fan intake not being blocked on top with all the solutions? Unfortunately the major fail of all this is either not allowing enough height for airflow OR if it's underneath then it'd be potentially blocking several ports with a ribbon cable (unless it was customized in some other way).
If you feed the cable thru the hole before attaching and clamping you remove the possibility of cracking ribbon cable wires.
Being new to Pi’s I’ve got a Pi5 on order, that case and I think the same hat and similar drive.
I will be putting Home Assistant on it though. Will I still be able to update the settings like you did to make the drive faster or is that just for Pi Operating system?
The process with config.txt settings is the same
@@leepspvideo Brill thanks. Is the only way to get to that file to put the Pi operating system on connect to a monitor and then Terminal to it like in your video? As I said I'm going for Home Assistant so would access it remotely after I've installed the Home Assistant OS. I haven't got a monitor available I'm all Macs in my house.
@@CC_FPV it can be done remotely
Awesome share, big thank you!
I have a question, I manage to connect to my pi with VNC and Pi Connect but my UI is not as in your video, the only theme I have is Pi OS standard but with Windows 11 icons and I can’t switch layout, I manage to get the menu and when I tried I got a to the log in screen (not pi os style) and when I typed in my password I get a black screen and then I’m back to the log in screen again. What should I do? I’m new to Pi’s and haven’t got any hdmi cable adapter yet so I need to fix this hehe.
Thanks
So many hindrances with that annoyingly placed PCI cable... I'm waiting on the CM5 version to which Waveshare will surely add the M.2 slot right underneath exactly like the brilliant CM4 version
Have you found any NVME drives which weren’t compatible with this N04 Pi hat? Some other Pi hats seem to not like specific NVME models.
I have found the problem is usually the nvme drive. Not the various nvme hats I have
which NVMe drives work with a Raspberry Pi 5?
ruclips.net/video/3mUgVTBmKio/видео.html
@@leepspvideo I've seen various compatible drive lists but I couldn't find one specifically for the 52pi N04.
@@pangloss9 if it works with others it should be fine
Almost looks like it could take a Pimoroni NVMe base on the bottom, almost. Bit more space and ribbon cable consideration would be the crux there. Prefer a base-fitted one, keeps your cooling options open. Using a modded Raspberry case with mine currently, and NVMe base works well. But really would like a metal larger one when the market selections stabilise, or something that's just - that one jumps out. Have to pop the lid off the Rasberry one for those peak moments and the heatsink cooler(good price that one Raspberry).
Exactly, I don’t know why these companies are designing hats to use an NVME SSD. Heat is definitely something that needs to be considered.
Is there a good case where the ssd below the pi and a good cooler on top ?
Might've been nice if the top of the case could've been used as a heat sink for the NVMe drive. Maybe the next version...
Straight up pi5 with nvme is as performative as a $400 laptop 6-7 years ago which imo is pretty impressive and unlike that old machine is still supported
Where have I seen a computer of this size and specification(or better) with a case and nvme slot already included for an altogether better price before? Maybe I am hallucinating?
These are so similar to the Geeekworm cases that I’d be shocked if they had different OEMs lol
It’s a sticker, use something small and poke it out and then use the screw provided.
did you plug the fan in?
@@RainBitcoins yes
Hi, does this case work with bottom SSD hat ( Geekworm X1002 PCIe to M.2 ) ? It does look similar to to Geekworm's official case, but not sure if that bottom SSD hat will fit in here or not.......
@@Nikhil-gm8ks probably, although I now recommend gpio powered nvme boards as the ribbon cable alone seems to be slower and causes problems if you plug in extra usb devices
ruclips.net/video/f8Ou6VkuF4w/видео.htmlsi=cvvjthYXtLIVtzv0
Is the dsi port on the raspberry pi 5 same as the pi 4 ?because i want to use a 5 inch dsi screen
No, the connector has changed, but there are cheap adapter cables you can use to make it work.
@@Biadosaru what is the name of the adapter?
What's the difference between the N04 & N05?
It’s all in the video. Different size drives, different size boards
@@leepspvideo I'll watch again. I don't remember hearing anything about it or seeing two versions mentioned.
I got my Raspberry pi 5 B 8Gb today, With the same NVME adapter as the one in the video. I put them together m.2 nvme in and was recognized immediately.
ask? I don't have the settings in the firmware config either and my config looks different than yours. Should I still add the pciex1 parameter?
@@matay.J4350 you still need the gen 3 bit if you want gen 3 speeds
Shown in this video
ruclips.net/video/3mUgVTBmKio/видео.htmlsi=mZpU6lQJUHbaD1Ca
@leepspvideo Thanks for the info👌👍👍👍
Samsung 960 EVO 250GB
Sequential write speed 748982
Random write speed 161022 IOPS
Random read speed 211406 IOPS
Test PASS
I need a case that can fit a bottom mounted nvme drive unfortunately.
I think it still would. Just checked definitely doesn’t work on the bottom. I value being able to quickly swap drives. Most people wouldn’t keep swapping nvme drives
Same - I'd like to put a PoE hat on top, and an NVME SSD on the bottom (hopefully the PoE hat will be out soon, and will fit with the active cooler...)
This case is very similar to the Geekworm one and that one does work with a bottom NVME hat. As mentioned the printed on board wifi antenna of the RP5 is not going to work well in a metal case. Blue tooth possibly as well
How much to build me one 😮
The NEO 5 is better nvme is on the bottom and does not bloekc the ariflow , and yoiu to use ehternet if using a meteal case because wifi is not the grreates as one can imagine, i have one plstic case for rpi 5 without nvme and use Ubuntu + Kodi for playing movies and the other ons ia NEO 5 metal case without nvme and the third one is NEO 5 with nvme and a 1 TB SSD on board also with Ubntu 23.10 on it, works fine.
Maybe it looks different in the video. I don’t feel airflow is blocked at all
Do you know or have you heard if there will be a DeskPi Pro Set-top Box For Raspberry Pi 5?
I haven’t heard
🙋
Random comment. Has anyone connected their Pi to a WiFi router using WPA3?
I did it and using the internal Broadcom adapter. See pull/5945
15 seconds 😂
make this top comment beacause its possible to
“NVME drives generate a lot of heat”.
When throttled down to one PCIE lane, the heat generated should be negligible.