The Best Raspberry pi 5 Case Is here! Argon NEO 5 BRED Hands On
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2023
- In this video we take a look at the Best Raspberry pi 5 so far, The Argon NEO 5 BRED!
The Argon NEO 5 is redesigned specifically to meet the high demands of the Raspberry Pi 5.
Impressive thermal dissipation solution for both passive and active cooling.
Aluminum case enclosure with passive cooling fins that act as the heatsink
Air intake vents allow for cool air to enter the case
30mm PWM fan helps with the airflow and push out hot air to exhaust vents
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Your fan cable routing block the air flow to the fins
Wires are blocking airflow through the fins directly to the fan... I wouldn't run the wires like that.
The fan cable is that long so it can go in a cable tray built in to the underside of the main (middle) part of the case.
Just twist the wire. It will shorten a bunch.
Notable omission in this test is noise comparisons. While I do care about cooling performance, the Pi Active Cooler is quite loud when it kicks in. I'd love to know what the Argon case sounded like under stress testing.
Is the extra wire blocking airflow from the fan to the fins on the heatsink?
Could you redo the test with the excess wire over by the GPIO pins instead and see if it makes a difference? (Edit: or in the cable tray that someone else mentioned.)
My thought exactly.
It won't get redone, these are just adverts for products.
@@jcdenton4911 I'd say blocking all the airflow does little to sell the benefits of this case turning it into a wasted advertisement. The ONE degree difference from the PI foundation's active cooler proves this. He even goes so far to say "I'd think it would be much lower than this" at the 5:40 mark while being completely oblivious to the airflow obstruction.
How didn't he thought about that, man? It really says a lot about this channel
I actually just tested this myself, and came to comment about it when I saw your comment. Anyway, it actually didn't make a difference and I also want to say that I don't really like this case.
The great thing about the Argon cases is that when the chip is idling, the fan does not need to run at all. Fans will eventually wear out, so the less you run them, the longer they last. I have the Argon 1 m.2 for the Pi 4 and really like it. I hope they come up with a version like this for the Pi. Having a case with full-size HDMI, everything on the back, and a real M.2 would be great.
The one thing that has always bothered me about the Argon aluminum cases is that nobody really mentions how the metal affects the WiFi. I usually use a wired connection, so not a huge deal for me.
I have an Argon 1 m.2 case on a pi 4 and use the WiFi. I'm one room over from my router and both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz WiFi work fine. I was worried about this before I got the case, but some people on Reddit said it worked fine for them, so I gave it a try. I'm waiting on a similar case for the pi 5.
The ONE V3 case is available for preorder! Also, the M.2 NVMe expansion for the ONE V3 seems to be expected late January.
I'm receiving my Neo5 today but going to hold off on the V3. I'd like wait for their V3 NVMe base to be available. On one of my Pi4s I have the V2 with NVMe (running Kodi) and that runs pretty hot to touch - even with the V2 fan on. I hope the V3 with NVMe runs cooler.
Edit: I see that Argon40 will have an NVMe expansion board for the Neo 5 too. That'll be interesting.
It will be great when Raspberry pi 5 itself will cost not 120+ $. With this price + case price you can buy some mini PC.
Yeah apples to oranges. Pi is physically smaller and uses less energy. Like everything else pick the right tool for the job at hand.
@curtispavlovec nahh compared to N100 it has worse performance per watt. The RPi has completely lost its appeal. Serves RPI foundation for abandoning the community that made them who they are today and sold out to corporate greed
@@lllongreen You don’t buy a Pi for performance per watt, or performance period. The advantage is size, low power, and the incredible community and applications custom tailored to the low power Pi devices.
@@lllongreen I have no idea what youre talking about, this n100 mini pc you mentioned is 219 dollars, that's almost triple the price of a 8gb rpi5
@curtispavlovec i know this. You know this, everyone knows this. Yet All these "reviews" do is use rpi as a small computer or home server, which is the reason for my comment in the first place.
Terrific price. If I haven't already bought the active cooler, this case is definitely the way to go.
Argon in my opinion builds the best cases for the pi’s, I’ve never been disappointed 👍🏻
For the Pi 5? Yes. For the Pi 4? DeskPi edges em out but just barely!
I love the Argon One case for my Pi 4 and I have already preordered an Argon One for my preordered Pi 5
I ordered my first raspberry pi a few days ago. Got the Pi 5 4gb. Planning to hook it up in the living room to use as an emulator station for my dad to play his SNES and GameCube games.
I’ll wait for them to release an updated Argon one M.2. Having that slot for an SSD will be better than ever now that the Pi has PCIe.
Raspberry Pi 5 cases are good. Emulation testing is even better ✌️
Would like to see a noise measurement on the fan. This is the critical issue for me.
Hoping Retroflag makes a pi5 specific version of their NESpi4 case.
Nice case however I'm waiting for other one from them. I'm waiting for the one that will utilise that PCIe to connect nvm ssd.
Yeah, all of us are waiting for a case with a place for SSD )
This case does look nice. However, I pre-ordered the Argon One v3 Case for my 8GB Raspberry Pi 5 when I saw that was available. Can't wait for it to ship at the end of January.
I wish someone would put out a case with space for an undermount NVME like Pimoroni's NVME Base
I agree. No way am I spending this kinda money on something that limits my ability to upgrade.
Oh PS, I have their nvme base on the way and have spoken with pimoroni- sounds like they are going to release their own case soon :-)
Argon 40 already has and I expect a PCIe version for it pretty soon.
I am curious if there is an opening in the shroud around the fan and 'Heatsink' fins? The cable you ran could possibly blocking airflow if that is the case.
Not having the access/ability to use the Pcie slot on Pi5 with the help of Argon case is a missed opportunity if you ask me. Argon could have included some slot at the bottom to attach NVME SSD to make it a complete package.
I’m sure they’ll make another case to do that.
This is the wrong series for that. You want the Argon ONE series. They are releasing that next. I'm guessing the Argon ONE M.2 version will be reworked specifically for NVMe.
@@isohaven758 I understand that Argon one might have a bigger version where they will increase the price substantially over this to include PCIe compatibility. But, thats the whole point. They should have atleast given such an option in this cheaper model itself. They could have easily increased the space at the bottom to make place for that nvme drive. But, now there is no way/option to do that with this case.
@@namangupta86 No, it doesn't increase the price substantially. Not even close. You might want to actually check out their product page before continuing. Also they just announce they will in fact be making an NVMe addon for this new series as well. So you're wrong again saying there's no way to do that with this case.
@@isohaven758 let them introduce the addon first. The way there is little space in this neo 1 device. I doubt any addon to utilize it gracefully can be an option. The best they might do is a dangling adaptor that would look ugly and be impractical to use. Lets see if it is even possible with this current design.
Luckily, the official fan/heatsink does the job that I think should satisfy most users with regards to active cooling.
The 2 passive cooling options that I saw reviewed over at Explaining Computers also looked great for the money.
Hopefully we won't need to see the glut of options that we saw for the Pi 4.
Look and feel, and access to the other I/O will likely be the deciding factors. Not too bad for the price.
Already sold out. But they've got preorders available for the upcoming Argon ONE V3 case so I've preordered two of those, as I was extremely happy with the Argon ONE V2 case. :)
Thanks! I just ordered the same.
Desalvoinc made one for the pi5! It looks sick and as always the cooling will be top notch. .
great case, just bought it myself. But it looks like you didn't read the manual...
3:00 wire management
there is a clear drawing in the manual on how to route the fan cable. so that it doesn't obstruct the airflow from the fan.
You should zoom a little. I can't see nothing with the camera this far away
Argon 40 cases are top tier. Period.
Now all we need is... a Raspberry Pi5. Who else couldn't get one for Xmas despite passing the order in November ? I still have got 2 weeks to wait.
I ordered an 8gb Pi 5 in October and won't get it until late January. At least it's $80
I don't understand, I got one from core electronics in Australia and it arrived to me in new Zealand in under 24 hours. This was before Xmas. If you guys want something like this ASAP you just need to look a little further afield
Because they still prioritize their corporate Lords. As per.many benchmarks on Phoronix the performance per watt is not good on the rpi 5 and neither is the performance per Eur/USD
@@lllongreen umn, but they laterally aren't doing this
I have RPi4 + Argon One M.2. The Argon Neo 5 is nice Bred, however, I go for the Argon NEO 5 M.2 NVME.
Thanks For Wathching Mr. ETA 😊
Isn't the fan on the Argon a "blower", the same as the official active cooler? If so, the cable routing you have chosen may be blocking the outlet of the fan. Move the cable and rerun the test. I would expect the Argon to run cooler still.
Nice to see some pi 5 content!
I wish they’d make a version capable of using a PoE hat and retain the fan.
That's my biggest issue with every cooling solution so far.
I have an anidees tall case with an argon fan, and a sixfab cellular hat on it. Works great.
The Argon ONE V3 for the Pi 5 is available for preorder now as well.
Love Argon cases, but I'll wait for one with m.2 and full size hdmi
nice case, only thing I would had changed is a removable tab for accessing the GPIO
So by doing the fan "cable management" you blocked a lot of airflow of the fan?
The top cover should have had a magnet holding it in place, like the old one, with the option to screw if you wanted it fixed.
The stupidly long wire for the fan might just be a pre-production issue, assuming they sent this to you.
Wrong series. Argon ONE is coming out in January.
The cable is supposed to be routed under the board, hence why it’s so long. This guy here decided to block the cooling of the fins by wedging the cable between the fan and the fins. 🤡
Desalvoinc made a galactic version for the pi5!! It looks absolutely nuts! I want one! Hope you can get one and do a review
This case feels much much more cheaper than it's predecessor. Leave alone the orrendous color scheme and the fact that most distros has currently problems in custimizing the fan curve. At default the fan starts and stops continuously because the fan starts at 50°C that is near the idle temp.
Like so many others noticed was the the wire routing fail.
Loved the video very informative and clear!
It is very good but..I'd rather wait for the edition with the Pimoroni down M.2 addon card edition..I think it won't be much more longer.. Since I have for some years the Argon 2 M.2 edition and I am very pleased with it (with only one exception) I would like better the same (M.2) edition for the before mentioned add-on card.. The differences are ENORMOUS.. Knowing the Argon quality, I'm sure,this Raspi5 will be my choice for my server for the years to come..After all it is not so difficult to add some millimetres around in height only or an height adaptor for it...
Very annoying that they did not make the fan cable the right length, but it is a very bad idea to lose the extra length in the gap between the side of the fan and the heat sink fins because the air is supposed to flow through there. Only semi-neat way I found was to coil up the excess length under a bit of heat-shrink tubing immediately above the plug. Other bummer is there is no good place to stow the RTC battery. Only solution I found for this is to make a pocket for it in the lid. Literally thirty seconds later I forgot about it and yanked the wires when I took the lid off again!
any aditional space in it for an m.2 HAT/HAB? (also this is WHY cases and other accessories have been slow to release, all the manufacturers are waiting to see which M.2 boards are the most popular, so they can save time and money by only building for the popular and common HAT)
Honestly I'm a bit disappointed with the case. It's not like it's terrible or anything, but I really hope they kept the magnets on the lid. One of my favorite things about the Neo case for Pi 4 was that I could access every features of the RPi4 without using any tools. This case would have been perfect if it had both the screw fasteners and the magnets. From the design I don't think it would even have been an impossible design to implement.
I got the Flirc Raspberry Pi 5 Case I'll wait till they make the argon one for the PI 5, good video tho!
Love these raspberry pie videos ❤❤
I'd like to buy extra thermal pads for the rest of the components. What should be the thickness?
I wonder if the aluminum case affects the Bluetooth or Wifi?
Argon cases usually have a plastic bottom (as this one does) to allow wireless.
Thanks @@firworks
My Argon One case on a pi 4 works fine with WiFi. I've never tried Bluetooth.
I have this case. I got it about 2 weeks ago directly from argon. It's pretty great, I had the original for the Pi 4. Also, this one is made of a little lighter aluminum than the original but cooling is still excellent.
how long did it take to ship directly from argon, i bought last week and haven’t received no update
@@wolfvenger it's coming from China so expect 3-4 weeks
can you fit a 2280 m2 in the case?
@@kiganjanico I'll let you know when my nvme base gets here but probably not.
@@wolfvengerI ordered from Argon directly, they shipped from china ten days after my order with the worst courier ever. It took 50 days to receive the case.
Didn't you just block the airflow out of that ducted fan by routing the wire between the cooler and the fan?
I bet a dollar that the fan is supposed to blow right up those fins and out the side of the case.
This case is now available with a m.2 NVME slot in the bottom
Nice case, and I see they are soon releasing the Argon ONE v3 case. I wonder how long before the M.2 version gets released.
I want a case that is good for the five with an active cooler and the build pi hat for lego Mindstorms - best with well designed lego beam holes like the Mindstorms and Spike 😮💨 and not 3d printed our out of Acryl
Awesome review as usual. Was wondering if there is any case wif active cooling to accommodate hatdrive m2 😅. Thx!
Argon is not known for silent fans, i would like to know some sound test about this model, not going to buy blind after previous Argon One for Pi4.
I like to see some real time performance testing with gaming and emulators on this new case
it will get really hot
Good video, nice case. If i want to connect a bottom NVME HAT. Is there a gap for the ribbon cable in the case? I see somthing over the SD Card slot but im not sure if a ribon cable will fit.
Looks like you can leave the bottom part of the case off - then perhaps add the pimoroni NVMe base? I suppose that would trash the looks though; suggestions on a case solution for that?
Great video 🎉 ❤
I had a question about this specific case:
With the case top hat closed, is there a slot for pcie flex cable to come out?
And if we use SSD hats with the Pi5, in what state we can use this case (Hat open / closed) ?
Case looks good to me when closed, so I would like to know about these results.
Not a dedicated slot, no. But you could route it over the cooling fins or between the vents on the side with the power/HDMI. I just tried it with my case. You might have to get a little foldy/bendy with the cable when it's inside but seems to work
Any codes for your legion give away?
I think for cooling performance the armor case (C-0049 on the 52Pi wiki) might be better. But this one does look better imo.
Does this case blow hot air out at the top?
Where does fresh air come in, from the holes in the bottom?
This would be great, because it would cool the backside of pi5b too.
I am surprised that RetroFlags has yet to get a case out for the Pi 5.
would the canakit's fan and heatsink be good for overclocking?
I will wait for their SSD case.
I’m only interested in cases which allow nvme ssds underneath the PI.
Added lower board under PI 5 with 1 TB M2 drive. What case can I use?
should have compared with and without lid as well, as I think it without would have scored significantly lower, as shown in the test of the Pi active cooler over at the ExplainingComputers channel, so would have been interesting to see if the Neo would have gone even lower than that without the lid on
I'm waiting for a case that might possibly fit my Pimoroni HAB m.2 SSD. Alas, I may have to wait for Pimoroni to make such a case or get another case with m.2 SSD built in....
where the tests with argon with or without the cover mounted, and how long did you let the stress test run? Thanks
Have you found any decent case for the Rpi 5 WITH the Rpi 5 active fan installed. I prefer to use OEM accessories when possible.
Looks like the lid blocks acces to the camera connector :(
How does the aluminium case affect the WiFi signal?
very nice case looks tempting but based on perforamnce id have to past. my over clock temps at 3000 and 1000gpu i get 28-53c over several hours of ps2 emulation and stress tests. open air case is best design. these cases are trapping in an abudant amount of heat from the unit and ps2 aestherx is the most demanding even on the orange pi5. opi5 temps are alot less than this.
Hi , how ironic I wanted to ask people who may have bought this case a question and its on ETAPRIME's channel which I really enjoy !
My question: Can anyone recommend a cable of 1m or less please that they have a solid tight connection with this case ?
Background:
Before I had a pi 3b, flic case and HDMI cable with no issues. With this case for my pi 5 it uses micro HDMI instead so I bought a UGREEN Micro HDMI to HDMI 2.1 Cable 8K 4K@120/175/240Hz. Bit overkill. But like some other issues I read with Pi4 and micro HDMI because of the case design people did get some connection issues. On my Pi 5 to me the cable is not going in far enough, so if I move the case by powering up or plugging controller in to play on my pi 5 emulation .... I loose the video and audio, I have to wiggle and push it in tighter again. The lead is too loose. I dont really want to dremel the case like others have done for pi 4. Can anyone recommend a cable of 1m or less please that they using and have a solid tight connection with this case ? Thanks in advance. Amazon will take cable back they are very good ike that ! A point to note unlike the flirc case this has a screw on cover, which if you swap the car a lot may want to leave off.
Sorted this out ......The official raspberry pi hdmi mini to HDMI , the metal connector is physically longer you can see it when you put then on top of each other. Connection through the case is now a lot better without it losing signal.
thanks ETA!
Is there room for a PoE+ HAT inside this case?
I would really be happy, if they (companies making cases for pi) could design some universal case that would fit all versions (can be bit bigger case).
As for this in video, I do not like the design at all. Somehow ARGON NEO for PI4 look better, this one is just a black brick. But if it cools, works then guess it is fine.
Please Test The Flirc 5 Case Next Please . Thank You.
It’s €25 here in the Netherlands
@bryanteger wrote:
"Those mini PC's offer far better performance."
Therein lies the problem with the latest Pi. It's price level is approaching mini PCs price level when you factor in, a capable power supply, max memory, effective cooling and a case to suit.
Not many people care if a mini PC uses up a few more inches of space compared with a Pi, so minis must look like a much better fit, especially when the use case is old game emulating. With a PC memory, size is way more flexible as is the power choice of engine and GPU. It's obvious that mini PCs will emulate more consoles glitch-free, no argument there.
What's in the box running this game emulator? Who cares as long as it works . . . properly. That's a mini.
You can bet your sweet bippy that ETA uses a powerful PC of some description as his emulator engine of choice. I do.
Oh and ETA, the Argon Neo is not "an all metal case".
Let's not do that okay? Just sayin', but appreciate the video all the same.
I’m not idle in the video you said other temps the. What shown on the screen…
@ETA Are you going to be reviewing the Argon ONE V3 M.2?
Re: fan cable
RTFM
You're welcome 😉
Can you squeeze a PoE AND an NVME hat into it??
I see again the code, might to enter it again for another entry
Please, does anyone know of any great case for Pi 5 and or Pi4 to use with UPS such as PI sugar, it seems everything so far is mostly 3d printed custom, and therefore very very expensive :s I did buy one of them but it becomes more expensive if you need 2 or 3
nobody is buying accessories until they can actually buy a 5.
The temperature 🌡️ tests were done with top hat attached? Or removed?
Any ideas for a case WITH NVME HAT?
Better than the overrated Zimaboard.
Is there any Pi 5 case out there yet that has a 3.5" or 2.5" hard drive bay?
thank god the raspberry pi costs more than a regular x86 desktop computer or i might be tempted to buy one....
Pi5 is £60 here (UK).
now add case, fan, power adapter, sd card. there are better options for sure. @@user-eh8oo4uh8h
So edgy.
@@polerix what is?
@@user-eh8oo4uh8h Which one? There are many different configurations
who do pi cases always forget to explose GPIO, if it wasnt for that this'd be perfect
The best case is a passive case!
Do you have the best passive cooling case video yet?.
Bleh, I'd rather have full size HDMI ports. You can get a few bucks off if you preorder the Argon ONE V3 Case. I'm holding out for the next M.2 version. Which I suspect will be reworked for NVMe.
The M.2 NVMe expansion for the ONE V3 case is expected late January apparently.
Exciting news! We're thrilled to announce a dedicated PCIe NVMe expansion board designed specifically for the Argon One V3 for RPi5 (and also coming for Argon NEO 5 for RPi5). In addition, we have other exciting products like cooling accessories and a power delivery GaN set to launch in early January. Stay tuned for updates on our website, and thank you very much for your continuous support.
They should made the case clear .
I hope it's better than the ArgonOne V3.
i hope they make a version without that red two tone. argon should keep to its colour scheme. not a fan of red.
the design is a bit inconsistent there requiring screws to open the to cover. was a fan of the previous sleeker design with the magnets and black and gray colours.