Just subscribed. I have no idea what kind of other videos you have but this one was to the point, good info, and you seem very confident. Looking forward to see what else you've got going on.
Great video! I'm debating whether to use screw or nails on pickets. On one end nail might be faster using nail gun, but if one break I have to take out, screws might be easier to do without destroying other parts.
1:56 Best option for exterior screws is stainless steel. Coated screws are OK, but the if the coating gets scratched during install it can lead to premature rusting.
IMO every screw gets scratched during install, mainly by the driver, so by design it will eventually rust. Also, I don't think I've ever pulled a >5yr exterior screw that didn't have some amount of rust on it. Agreed stainless is best.
I feel like I just watched a sermon about building a fence. 😂 Very helpful. Now, I know what I need to do to fix my fence. --The person who built it obviously didn't watch this video!!
The builders who built my house and fence used nails. 15 years in the nails start a slide-out and pickets stringer's started falling off. I tore down the fence and I'm in the process of building the replacement. I'm using screws to attach stringers. For pickets I started using screws. I'm looking into getting a nail gun with the nails with a fluted Shank. Call it over engineering. I do not want my fence falling apart for a long time
I built an 8x8 raised deck on cement piers. It was completely made with 2x6 boards. Even the surface deck. My dad came over and said, “Jesus, you could park a car on this…why?” 😅. I said I don’t know, you weren’t with me at Home Depot.
I'm curious...I just put up a fence, and everything I read said to *not* use galvanized when dealing with pressure treated wood and/or cedar. They'll react with the wood and "bleed" down the fence pickets over time (we've all seen fences with streaks coming down from every nail hole). Even the boxes of galvanized products indicate to not use with treated or cedar wood. I ended up using stainless steel ring shanks for the cedar pickets which worked well.
Framing nail gun. Here's the one I have: www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA-71700000051533115-58700004979440425-92700055781676714&gclid=CjwKCAiAouD_BRBIEiwALhJH6M8n3Wgz-rvKViMgkRtzGN20_XdV1LPKywMjv-JQDeoebe8YNdC6RRoCjDwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I used decking screws to hold my pickets on. 2" long. Then my wife made me realize I needed to remove the pickets and space them 1.5" apart so we can see through the fence. Luckily I used screws. Easy to undo and reinstall.
My fence was built that way and it's a nightmare. The rails have to be toenailed or screwed at an angle and this is much weaker connection. Wood shrinkage pulls it away. I'm having to build braces everywhere to strengthen it.
Hi Kevin its very informative video. i am starting my new business doing fencing. what would u recommend between pneumatic or battery nail guns? thanks
I just put up a fence in my backyard and only drove 2 screws on each fence board (one on top and one on the bottom of the board. Should I take it off and redo it with 4 total nails in each board?
Fence is over thirty years old and all nails........2 of the 4x4 snapped off in the ground due to high winds.... my pickets i had to special order from menards 5/8x8x6
I use a framing nailer: www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA-71700000051533115-58700004979440425-92700055781676714&gclid=CjwKCAiAouD_BRBIEiwALhJH6M8n3Wgz-rvKViMgkRtzGN20_XdV1LPKywMjv-JQDeoebe8YNdC6RRoCjDwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Does it matter if it cedar picket or pressure treated picket? I’ve heard only use stainless steel for cedar but I’ve used galvanized and haven’t had it at least heard of or seen any issues with using galvanized on cedar pickets. Just wanted to see what you thought. I normally use 1 3/4 ring shank galvanized coil pack nails with Dewalt siding/fence nail gun
Sry, 4 yrs-out comment…but for a fence with more than one panel, the 2x4 rails won’t overlap the full width of the post to get 4 screws like you demonstrated- you will have ~8’ on center posts with 8’ rails that butt up to its neighbor with only 1 3/4” overlap. Half the post width. Maybe 3 screws, but probably 2. Still strong, but not the same racking resistance as a long, long rail. For a home owner, a $180 Freeman coil siding nailer with 2” x .092” hot-dipped galvanized ring-shank nails is worth the fun and speed for the pickets.
Just one thing about those nails. If those ridges go in they push away wood material that would hold them. A screw would leave that material and spiral inward. That material would be helping to hold that screw inside the wood. Hope that makes sense. I will use 1" or 1 1/2" screws to hold my pickets this time. Easier to replace a picket too.
Hi! Use 3/12" exterior screws for the rails and 2" galvanized ring shank nails for the pickets. They do make 2" ring shank for nail guns. I highly recommend it. Makes the job soooo much faster.
Here's what I have. www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart-71700000080178040-58700006732570910-92700061027200350&gclid=CjwKCAiAm-2BBhANEiwAe7eyFBS0wPeHMR5Q8I3VnoDrvsYu5vrmsb5FRMDW-3Xyx7eJxuEn8IIjyhoCH4QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Here's what I have. www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart-71700000080178040-58700006732570910-92700061027200350&gclid=CjwKCAiAm-2BBhANEiwAe7eyFBS0wPeHMR5Q8I3VnoDrvsYu5vrmsb5FRMDW-3Xyx7eJxuEn8IIjyhoCH4QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@@HomeDabbler Thanks. I had not seen it before on my fences, but saw several videos showing it. While I have you, I was trying real hard to avoid pneumatic nail guns--(need to rent nailer AND compressor) and wanted to find a good electric, but the only ones I could see ONLY could take brads, not suitable for fencing. So it seems I need to bit the bullet and rent the compressor/nail gun. Agree?
@@jimquantic they make framing nailers that use CO2 cartridges. You may could rent one of those. It's just one unit. To my knowledge, they don't make electric framing nailers.
Absolutely no reason to put 4 screws in a rail to post. Most rails only cover half the post except the ones on the end of runs. If you put 4 screws in that small amount of space, your compromising the rail to split. Two screws at most. One on top and one on bottom. We put one screw in the middle and never had a panel fall down or a call back to fix. That’s 6 screws holding a panel on with 3 rails. This guy is saying to put 24 screws per panel.🤦♂️
Good video, well explained, did not know that Chevy Chase was doing these
I was literally going to say this and saw someone beat me to it lol
@@SeanShineYouth Same here :D
I thought so too.
Yeah he exactly lookin like Chevy chase!!
hahahaha! nice one.
Be the fastener Billy….
Just subscribed. I have no idea what kind of other videos you have but this one was to the point, good info, and you seem very confident. Looking forward to see what else you've got going on.
This is the best explanation of all types of fasteners for a fence… Now I know Good job!
Awesome video. Now I can upgrade my fence! Thanks for a great video!!
Excellent video, straight to the point
Thank you for taking the time to explaining that!
Very useful home projects, thank you.
Thank you for the knowledge.
Great video! Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! I'm debating whether to use screw or nails on pickets. On one end nail might be faster using nail gun, but if one break I have to take out, screws might be easier to do without destroying other parts.
Thank you sir you answered a lot of my questions.
Straight to the point, with facts. I subbed
Thank you🥰for this fence demonstration🥰
Good tips. Thank you.
My man just gave me the confidence to build anything😁
Wow, that was very good! Thanks.👍
1:56 Best option for exterior screws is stainless steel. Coated screws are OK, but the if the coating gets scratched during install it can lead to premature rusting.
IMO every screw gets scratched during install, mainly by the driver, so by design it will eventually rust. Also, I don't think I've ever pulled a >5yr exterior screw that didn't have some amount of rust on it. Agreed stainless is best.
Great 👍 explanation thank you!
Great video, thank you very much
I feel like I just watched a sermon about building a fence. 😂 Very helpful. Now, I know what I need to do to fix my fence. --The person who built it obviously didn't watch this video!!
Most welcome!
Ah yes straight to the point!!
Great job
Very well explained sir! I have to ask, I'm sure you get this all the time... but I think you resemble Chevy Chase too.
Thaks ! Great VIDEO !!
Great video. New subscriber.
I love how everyone over engineers a fence. What’s your house held together with, nails. What’s holding your shingles to your roof, nails.
The builders who built my house and fence used nails. 15 years in the nails start a slide-out and pickets stringer's started falling off. I tore down the fence and I'm in the process of building the replacement. I'm using screws to attach stringers. For pickets I started using screws. I'm looking into getting a nail gun with the nails with a fluted Shank. Call it over engineering. I do not want my fence falling apart for a long time
@@dannoagent8688 15 years divided by let's say 3,000 not bad
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@@dannoagent8688 if you got 15 years out of a wood fence I would say the builders and the nails they used did a dam good job.
I built an 8x8 raised deck on cement piers. It was completely made with 2x6 boards. Even the surface deck. My dad came over and said, “Jesus, you could park a car on this…why?” 😅. I said I don’t know, you weren’t with me at Home Depot.
So then just two screws are used on the other end of the rail? Since the next rail will meet with the first correct?
0:29 Wait wait wait... what is this video about?
Just kidding. This video helped me understand how to repair my yard fence, and I thank you sir. 😀👍🏼
wow, cool , thx for sharing .
Thank You, This guy is asesome
Was about to nail the rails in... Thanks for saving me!
I'm curious...I just put up a fence, and everything I read said to *not* use galvanized when dealing with pressure treated wood and/or cedar. They'll react with the wood and "bleed" down the fence pickets over time (we've all seen fences with streaks coming down from every nail hole). Even the boxes of galvanized products indicate to not use with treated or cedar wood. I ended up using stainless steel ring shanks for the cedar pickets which worked well.
I thought this was clark griswold 😮😮
Could you tell size of screws. And nails to use. Great video
Is there a good reason you didn't check the rails into the post?
It's SOP in Australia,
Where did you go, subscribed, then saw 3yrs since last video
So what length screw for the rail to post 4"?
I personally like to use a decking secrews easy to use and secure.
How can you use 4 screws on a line post where 2 2x4’s are sharing a 4x4?
Awesome video! What nail gun would you use for ring shank nails?
Framing nail gun. Here's the one I have:
www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA-71700000051533115-58700004979440425-92700055781676714&gclid=CjwKCAiAouD_BRBIEiwALhJH6M8n3Wgz-rvKViMgkRtzGN20_XdV1LPKywMjv-JQDeoebe8YNdC6RRoCjDwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Does a siding nail gun drive Ring shank nails? Not sure if that’s the nail gun I need to build my wooden fence
Should have talked about lengths of fasteners 2” is shortest collated galvanized however will poke out the back
Can I use an 18 gauge nail using a nail gun on a picket? Thanks!
Ya man, 👍
Should use Cedar and the boards won't warp like many complain about. SS Shank Nails should work fine.
This is helpful, thank you! I'm prepping to build my first fence this summer. Do you have an opinion on using staples to fasten pickets to the rails?
Yeah. Don’t. 👍
I used decking screws to hold my pickets on. 2" long. Then my wife made me realize I needed to remove the pickets and space them 1.5" apart so we can see through the fence. Luckily I used screws. Easy to undo and reinstall.
Sir, what is the size of screw for the rail & picket? Much thanks
Thanks Make more videos.
I always put nails the screw will break when the nail will bend
What size screws for the rail to post and also for the pickets? Thanks
Hi Chito, 3.5" exterior decking screws for the rails and 2" galvanized ring shank nails for the pickets.
@@HomeDabbler I really appreciate it.
I haven’t heard nail length mentioned on the couple videos I’ve watched. So, what length nails to nail up pickets?
2”
I install my rails inside the post. No gap between picket and post. Makes a thinner fence.
Pockets will shrink eventually be a lone between
My fence was built that way and it's a nightmare. The rails have to be toenailed or screwed at an angle and this is much weaker connection. Wood shrinkage pulls it away. I'm having to build braces everywhere to strengthen it.
What type of nail gun should I use to install pickets on a fence? 21 degree framing nailer?
Yep!
what size screws for your rails?
.Need to make sure you are using screws and nails that are compatible with pressure treated wood
Hi Kevin
its very informative video. i am starting my new business doing fencing. what would u recommend between pneumatic or battery nail guns?
thanks
Zip ties.
Why would you Not use a 2.5 inch oval headed galvanized nail on a treated wood fence pickets?
I just put up a fence in my backyard and only drove 2 screws on each fence board (one on top and one on the bottom of the board. Should I take it off and redo it with 4 total nails in each board?
Hi Alex, I would take off just the pickets covering the screws and add two more to each rail.
@@HomeDabbler No, you can only put 4 screws in the rails where they meet a corner post. For most of the rails you can only put 2 screws per rail.
Personal opinion - I think it’s better to mortice the posts to hold the rails. That way you’re not relying on fasteners at all.
the mortise will ruin the waer proofing property of the post due to the incision beyond the PT layer.
Fence is over thirty years old and all nails........2 of the 4x4 snapped off in the ground due to high winds.... my pickets i had to special order from menards 5/8x8x6
Would you use a cordless or compressor nailer for a fence? Or just use a hammer?
I use a framing nailer:
www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_PLA-71700000051533115-58700004979440425-92700055781676714&gclid=CjwKCAiAouD_BRBIEiwALhJH6M8n3Wgz-rvKViMgkRtzGN20_XdV1LPKywMjv-JQDeoebe8YNdC6RRoCjDwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Does it matter if it cedar picket or pressure treated picket? I’ve heard only use stainless steel for cedar but I’ve used galvanized and haven’t had it at least heard of or seen any issues with using galvanized on cedar pickets. Just wanted to see what you thought. I normally use 1 3/4 ring shank galvanized coil pack nails with Dewalt siding/fence nail gun
Sry, 4 yrs-out comment…but for a fence with more than one panel, the 2x4 rails won’t overlap the full width of the post to get 4 screws like you demonstrated- you will have ~8’ on center posts with 8’ rails that butt up to its neighbor with only 1 3/4” overlap. Half the post width. Maybe 3 screws, but probably 2. Still strong, but not the same racking resistance as a long, long rail. For a home owner, a $180 Freeman coil siding nailer with 2” x .092” hot-dipped galvanized ring-shank nails is worth the fun and speed for the pickets.
You could do AL of home improvement, you have the fence right there lol
Just one thing about those nails. If those ridges go in they push away wood material that would hold them. A screw would leave that material and spiral inward. That material would be helping to hold that screw inside the wood. Hope that makes sense. I will use 1" or 1 1/2" screws to hold my pickets this time. Easier to replace a picket too.
What length nails and screws? Also what size nail will fit into a nail gun. If I decide to rent a gun?
Hi! Use 3/12" exterior screws for the rails and 2" galvanized ring shank nails for the pickets. They do make 2" ring shank for nail guns. I highly recommend it. Makes the job soooo much faster.
Yep, a framing nailer.
@@HomeDabbler Terrific video, thanks. Are you recommending 3 1/2 inch exterior screws at each post-rail junction?
@@kbryancroft yep
What gun do you use??
What type and size would you use for an Air Nailer?
Here's what I have.
www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart-71700000080178040-58700006732570910-92700061027200350&gclid=CjwKCAiAm-2BBhANEiwAe7eyFBS0wPeHMR5Q8I3VnoDrvsYu5vrmsb5FRMDW-3Xyx7eJxuEn8IIjyhoCH4QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Here's what I have.
www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-21-Degree-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_12_PNEUMATIC_FASTENERS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-PneumaticFasteners_Smart-71700000080178040-58700006732570910-92700061027200350&gclid=CjwKCAiAm-2BBhANEiwAe7eyFBS0wPeHMR5Q8I3VnoDrvsYu5vrmsb5FRMDW-3Xyx7eJxuEn8IIjyhoCH4QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
No nails in the rails!!
Can I use a picket for a rail? Ty
No, should be a 2 x 4.
How about Stainless Steel 1/4" narrow Crown Staples
No. I tried that on a few pickets that came loose, and staples dont grap, as do threads on a screw.
National Lampoon's Vacation
Should be, "rings" (plural) shank nail. No?
Ring shank nor screw shank
Bleeding?
You mean from rusty nail heads? Doesn't typically happen if you use galvanized nails and exterior decking screws.
@@HomeDabbler Thanks. I had not seen it before on my fences, but saw several videos showing it. While I have you, I was trying real hard to avoid pneumatic nail guns--(need to rent nailer AND compressor) and wanted to find a good electric, but the only ones I could see ONLY could take brads, not suitable for fencing. So it seems I need to bit the bullet and rent the compressor/nail gun. Agree?
@@jimquantic they make framing nailers that use CO2 cartridges. You may could rent one of those. It's just one unit. To my knowledge, they don't make electric framing nailers.
Tell me how long god damnit
straight to it,,, to much info
Nothing looks worse than a privacy fence done wrong, ugly 😟
Absolutely no reason to put 4 screws in a rail to post. Most rails only cover half the post except the ones on the end of runs. If you put 4 screws in that small amount of space, your compromising the rail to split. Two screws at most. One on top and one on bottom. We put one screw in the middle and never had a panel fall down or a call back to fix. That’s 6 screws holding a panel on with 3 rails. This guy is saying to put 24 screws per panel.🤦♂️
I use zip ties to attach my picketts, much faster and no need to invest in a nail gun.
Can you say adobe ?