Is Alien ‘Life’ Weirder Than We Imagine: Who Is Out There?
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024
- If we want to discover alien life out there in the universe, we first need to figure out where to look-and what we're even looking for. Will it be biological like us? Could it be artificial, or take some other form we haven't yet considered? And how do we find something so fundamentally different from ourselves? In this program, scientists devise plans for searching for beings beyond Earth while they grapple with the very definition of life.
PARTICIPANTS: Lisa Kaltenegger, Caleb Scharf, Susan Schneider, Sara Walker
MODERATOR: Nicole Stott
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Film about the imaginative search for alien life 00:05
Introduction to the program by astronaut Nicole Stott 04:45
Introduction of participants 05:50
What is the definition of life? 07:09
How will we find signs of life elsewhere in the universe? 16:21
What are the parameters for looking for life on other planets? 19:36
What should the probes on Mars be looking for to find life? 24:58
The Fermi Paradox, where is everybody? 30:56
Have aliens avoided humans because we're too boring? 34:41
Can we use information theory to look for life in the universe? 39:13
Why is looking for alien life important to humankind? 44:13
Will life in the future be AI, should we be looking for other AI in space? 46:02
The "Great Filter" 48:52
Is artificial intelligence alive? 50:28
Is evolution the strongest force in the universe, how will it shape the future? 52:13
What lessons could humankind learn from the successes and failures of other alien species in the universe? 56:58
Why should we care about finding life elsewhere in the universe? 57:58
PROGRAM CREDITS:
Produced by John Plummer
Associate Produced by Laura Dattaro
Opening film written / produced by John Plummer, animation by Derek Breur
Music provided by APM
Additional images and footage provided by: Getty Images, Shutterstock, Videoblocks
This program was recorded live at the 2018 World Science Festival and has been edited and condensed for RUclips.
Thanks for a video without ads every 15 seconds. Almost as rare as finding intelligent life off planet.
It's rare to find intelligent life on the planet.
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I like the blond birds legs
I forget who said it but I once heard the universe is not only stranger than we imagine it's stranger than we can imagine
Carl sagan
The Universe is connected and all life within...trying to diagnose it with our limited knowledge isn't viable..we must be willing to sacrifice for the advancement of the human race
@@richarddunne5688 No. Werner Heisenberg.
i am no scientist but does alien life need to have the same biological make up as us they could exist in vastly different eco systems than we have so to make a guess about their biological make up is going to be almost impossible
@@JohnAnderson-ss9vn i mean we carbon based lifeforms are well on our way to creating silicon based lifeforms.
I like the moments when it feels like we're listening in on a brainstorming session rather than a fairly choreographed set of lectures. I kind of miss that from the earliest years of the WSF, although that can also go off the rails as happened at some previous WSFs. It provides a more intimate feel, a deeper sense of immersion, like we're part of the discussion rather than the target of it.
Imagine how different they can be , they’re not humans , they may not have emotions , they may not have our logic , they may not even have bodies , it’s just a bit scary but really interesting
I think about this a lot.
I have a feeling that once a civilization has figured out a way to make out into space for the long haul and be able to adapt to its harsh environment they instead opt to just travel indefinitely through out the universe. By doing so, they are not trapped with having to “planet hop” every time they outgrow their environment. If they can figure out a way to harness energy while traversing the universe then it’s probably limitless where they can travel if they wish. It’s my belief that planets are like nests for birds once they figure out they don’t necessarily have to stay in one they fly away to discover the world beyond the nest.
Thank you sir, your hypothesis is interesting. Made my mind race while i have never thought about it in that manner.
I believe it should be a prerequisite for space travel beyond one's solar system to first achieve indefinite sustainability. A race that soils its nest deserves extinction; not to soil all the nests it can find.
By that logic it makes more sense to upload your mind into a computer and live until the end of the universe. If you get in a vehicle and just drive with no destination you will eventually get into an accident, have a breakdown, or encounter hostile beings. Humanity has tried this before exploring the oceans. You do not want to meet beings more advanced than you.
@@similaritiesendhere
Why would I not want to meet someone more advanced than ourselves? You have fell victim to the box meaning that you've not actually thought this through because if a species is more advanced than us and when we meet them we are traveling the vast distance of space then we both have advanced far ahead enough to be able to do that and in our history when a less advanced group of people meet a more advanced group the less advanced people become victims because of the superiority of power in tech of the advanced people but why did the + people take out the - people it's because they wanted what they had but once you reach a level of technology and realize that there is a vast amount of everything in space to just stop and pick up with no one there to fight over it you'll have robots so no need to have slaves you'll have technology that can make what ever it is from most asteroids so that theory doesn't hold water anymore technology at that level eliminates the need to be barbaric so the only reason to destroy someone else would be because you can and civilizations like that don't tend to survive that long and before you say it this time right now is the longest time in history that the human race has been peaceful
@@who-man8791 You have a weird definition of peaceful. Off the top of my head, there's currently a genocide occurring in Yemen. The Kurds are being ethnically cleansed in Syria. Immigrant children are dying in dog cages in the U.S. Russia is trying to illegally annex Ukraine and tampering in several foreign elections. North Korea is still testing long range missiles systems. India and Pakistan have been on the verge of nuclear war since before I was born.
To make matters worse, climate change is about to cause the worst refugee crisis since the Ice Age. The places that are going to get hit the worst are near the equator. What's going to happen when nations with nuclear weapons become uninhabitable? My old history teacher told me that history is a pendulum. Enjoy the "peace" now, because the next big war will be nuclear.
I personally think we should stop looking and start being discreet. Races have been here for decades abducting people and animals and all right under our noses, taking advantage of our ignorance. Anyone who genuinely wants to know about this subject should at least investigate the free online books "Allies of Humanity" and see what they think.
Thank you!!
Thank you!
Thank you, ALW.
My god you guys should seek help. Really
If one simply takes into account the 'life' factors we already know, there can be no doubting the existence of much more advanced 'intelligent- life' out there somewhere. In terms of 'evolution' we have only just relatively left the caves. And - if we don't manage to annihilate ourselves within the next one hundred years or so - we too will be exploring the outer reaches of the cosmos. Other 'beings' out there already could easily be in virtually any form we could imagine as intelligent-'life' could evolve in an unlimited number of ways.
Humans From Earth Have most likely already been Space traveling For centuries, Probably Wayyyy Longer. It's Classified Because Common People Are Incredibly Wild And unpredictable At Times And Make The Most Unwise Decisions. Knowledge Is A Weapon. Weapons Destroy. Can't Trust One Who Knows too much unless They Are 100% Righteous/Pure Or Controllable. Humans Are Dangerous. Even The good ones make the Gravest mistakes and decisions. So they hide things from us. More Likely to protect themselves from us. We might not bend to their agenda and will if we know too much. They maybe fear that we will combat them too successfully....All Life Is Strange To Me But Every Being From Every Reach Of The Multiverse has their Flaws. The Job Is To Try And eliminate The Flaw. They Want To Master Absolute Perfection and be the top dog. I Believe Greed Is The Culprit For many Of them. Most of Them focus on dominance/control instead of enlightenment and pure Intentions. Mose Of Them Are Corrupt in heart. Few Of Them Are Honorable/Righteous. I Pray For Our Souls, us who are Enslaved and Ignorant to Truth and peace.
With the immense area of the universe I can’t see that we could possibly be the only people or beings
They deleted the original version in which the host lost her line of thoughts and started talking nonsense around 46 min mark. It was awkward so I kinda I see why they did it. It's edited out in this version. Very glad they put the video back online I really like this panel, the conversation flowed really well. All panel members are passionate about their work and clearly had given a lot of thoughts on the topic. The language they are using and also the way they are expressing themselves is so natural and approachable. It's one of my favorite panel on this channel for sure. Sara Walker is amazing, she truly is on a different level than the rest of us :D
Do ypu know where I can get the origional version?
It's the ditzy blond 'philosopher' isn't it? I bet she has a little dog...
@@WoodysAR no. The host is on the left. The blonde is Susan. Susan is on the right, next to Sara. That's YOUR right. Sara is to YOUR right as you are looking at the screen, and the blonde- Susan- is next to Sara. Susan is between Sara and the only man on stage.
Get it?
I hope that was helpful in helping you identify who the real ditz is.
You don't know who the host is and who the guests are?
And you're calling one of them a ditz?
Really?
Also I liked Susan...
The host interrupted her and had like 2 questions because most people are ignorant about what philosophers study.
(Logic and Set Theory)
The host is ALL the way to your left,
Dark hair,
glasses.
Okay?
And I wouldn't describe Susan, or anyone with a degree in philosophy as ditzy; philosophers study intense shit.
Every phd says "degree in Philosophy" on it.
Did you know that?
Did you?
If you're not a medical doctor,
but you're a doctor, Phd
you have a degree in Philosophy
Its hard!
Especially if you're designing AI or just studying it theoretically. If she's using Modal Logic, which is implemented in AI... (and she mentioned AI a bit) ...that's reeeeally hard Math because you need to understand "Completeness," and Gödels Incompleteness theorem, and Set Theory, and Proof Theory, before you can even take Modal Logic. Look at the Math and Philosophy prerequisites for Modal Logic sometime. Try finding a Modal Logic video on RUclips that you can follow. Even the ones that are 12 minutes long. Watch one and then tell me what a ditz philosophers are. After that you might gain some appreciation for how quickly the brain gets fried out from Mathematical notions.
Set Theory makes most Undergrads curl up into a ball and cry.
YOU'LL EXCUSE US IF WE'RE ECCENTRIC!!!And if you have to....
you know what?
I'm not even finishing this thought.
it's not even worth it
you're not worth it
ridiculous
so ignorant and disrespectful
I'm done, comments
I'm done.
never again.
@@Pete-Prolly That's a bit of an overreaction; wouldn't you agree? Or, will you give a dissertation on overreaction at this point ?
@@WoodysAR You shouldn't be talking about my 'ditzy' girlfriend like that-not cool. And yes, we do have a little dog!
I’d like to hear Carl say “Mr Anderson”
Lol Morpheus
Hehe
In this dimensional matrix we could here it..
Could he spell it with an "e"?!
kavan andersen sure, just for you.
Wow, amazing how the panel got upset when the astronomer said we (humans, life on earth) are boring. Really amazing to see the ego acting up there.
Another issue with viewing these stars and planets that are so far away is the issue of time. We are basically looking into the past at some of these planets that are far away. So seeing precursors of potential habitable planets, that are on planets millions of light years away, could now at this time be as advanced as we are. Our timeframe of viewing things is so small in the grand scheme of things that the opportunities of finding things in the future is very exciting I believe.
We are not going to be studying any planets at the distances you suggest. At least not in the forseeable future. If we can get meaningful atmospheric data at 1000ly we will be doing well.
How do you conclude its the past??? In relation to looking at planets far away..
@@smoohtalker321 because we know how fast light travels. We know the distance of the sun to the earth and can calculate how long the light from the sun to reach the earth would be about 8 minutes. That means that when you look at the sun, what you are actually seeing is the sun of 8 minutes ago. Our furthest planet in our solar system Pluto, is around 4 hours away from earth. So if you get a telescope and view Pluto, you are seeing the Pluto of 4 hours ago.
We have estimated that the Milky Way is around 150,000 light years across, and we are closer to the edge of it. So if we were to view some of the furthest stars away in our own galaxy, we are seeing what the stars looked like 100,000 years ago. Because that is how long light/images take to reach us.
How far into the past do you think ? Far enough that their life forms have already evolved by the time we see it?
@@sureyarapley7877 or before life has even had time to take place. Some of the furthest stars visible to us right now are around 28 billion light years away. That means the images we are see are from what that Star looked like 28 billion years ago. The first life on earth that we know of is less than 5 billion years old. So basically any star that is further than 5 billion light years away, which is a loooooot, would see our planet lifeless
7:03 to the actual start
Thank youu
Alien life... Covid-19 has proven we aren’t ready for Alien Life. We fight over toilet paper.
Sad but true. Aliens must be looking at us shaking their heads.
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It also shows how we are social creatures to the bone and how a few can effect the many I was working at walgreens at the time and there were a few selfish ppl with coupons who came in getting more tissue than they needed. Then there was a story on the news about a toilet paper shortage and that's when ppl really went crazy and even ppl who were calm before and not panicking still needed toilet tissue so they try to get some too. Next thing you know barely any toilet tissue for anyone and were forced to put a limit on it cause ppl wasn't acting right along with media sensationalism causing ppl to panic more.
Its funny cause when there was toilet paper shortage i just used baby wipes. Lol i never understood what toilet paper had anything to do with COVID but i swear it was comedy
This was stupendous, riveting. Joyful yet cautionary, grand possibilities presented within the practical. Well done.
Why do people always assume that aliens look like organisms from Earth? What if they look like rocks, what if they are invisible, what if they are made of gas or light?
I was skeptical that such a profound thesis could be logically discussed. Wonderful information, Brilliant delivery!
I think that was the case because the panel wasn't trying to impress each other or impress the audience.
The main problem with nasa and scientist expect alien to be like us physically. They also believe that alien life needs to live on an earth like world.
It boggles my mind that it has been just a little over a hundred years since the invention of electricity , discovery of flight etc ( laughable to space and time ) - before then we existed for thousands of years on this planet living by other means of light ie. firefight, candle - light , lamp - light . We also existed for thousands of years living within small groups of our own kind without realizing that our planet was teaming with life ( in forms we could not recognize / see with the naked eye or begin to understand when it was right there - in front of us , on us and on every inch of everything that surrounded us - ie Microbial / bacterial life . We had no idea that there were thousands of other humans sharing this planet with us who were so similar to us but still so different - in colour , race and belief systems . Instead of asking " if life exists in other places in the universe then where is everybody ? " - how about we ask the question." What do we need to do to find life ? " It is intellectually impossible to think that we are the only or most advanced life in our universe when we are still so primitive where we barely have an understanding of our own solar - system and even less about our galaxy ! Even if there is ONLY ONE chance for life in a galaxy - then our universe is teaming with life ( as I believe it to be ) - there are trillions of possibilities for life in all forms and stages - from the very rudimentary to the Super - intelligent .
At 8:26 my first thought is that what if there is another life form that doesn't effect the planet as our life has. There are microbials that are almost undetectable on earth, why would there not be the same on another planet
On top of that, what if they breathe a different gas like we do oxygen? What if there required gas is Xenon, or helium or some molecule we haven't even been able to construct let alone consider
What if life on another surface were to not even be carbon based at all and our view of life is based specifically on our point of view
I really enjoy the view point of the lady in the green short all the way up until she gets into looking mathematical structures as well. I mean, earth bound life typically follows what we now to be more rigid structures, so again, when would something extraterrestrial follow what we belive to be the bounds or even the minimum of our threshold of what life might be. Our idea is that it could be a single cell organism, what if the single cell organism is nothing close to what we could comprehend. We are just recently understanding higs bozan particles. What if their life is in a relm we have yet to discover and we just over look it because we don't understand it?
I love it when they do nervous giggles of self appreciation.
Hell yea I'd like to make 4 of em giggle a little myself lol
@@ericchristian6710 easy now share 😁
I didn't get that impression from these folks at all. The impression that I got was one of self deprecation. These are highly developed intellects who are not terribly social. The only affect that I noticed was the philosopher with her sort of projection of her speech.
Imagine the possibility that we one day meet aliens and find out they have magical abilities and wands like in Harry potter, that would make one hell of a life plot twist
Advanced technology = magic. Of course, they have abilities that are in appearance indistinguishable from magic. And they can use them even without wands. Humans will have these abilities, too, by next century. A.I., quantum computing, nanotechnology, robotics, genetic engineering, systems biology -- all of these are rapidly developing and converging into a civilization of beings of God-like powers.
In my opinion, the key word should be cognizant not intelligent.
Humans are different from other species not because we are more intelligent but because we are cognizant beings who can collectively imagine a world order and pass on the acquired knowledge from generation to generation.
Robert Dean gave a lecture to Leeds University sometime ago. He made it clear that there were several types of Aliens. One type is precisely like us and could not be detected as other than human . They have been visiting the earth for many millenia. Of 2 other types one is 3 feet tall and the other is 6 feet tall. Their ability to fly at very great speed and change direction instantly is far beyond our capacity, as is their ability to travel under water in the same manner. The lecture is 1-35 long and very interesting.
is it make sense if we search for another life based on consciousness detection rather than searching life based on chemical or physical matter. since different consciousness create different set of reality and the thing that we detect as "no life" is actually has different set of reality which is why we can never find it.
“May be..”. Everything is weirder and more mysterious than we CAN imagine
I would argue that the universe itself is living.
Jason Theobald . Interesting concept saying "the universe itself is living" perhaps (stars = protons) (planets = electrons) (galaxy = single cells), if there is consciousness, the universe could be classified as life. But, not as we know it. Lol 😂 on that scale (people = parasites).
Black hole = cancer
Planets are the neutrons you idiot
Electrons are asteroids
@@rikshaw2233 humans are the cancer
Most likely as weird as some of the life forms in our oceans. I think we can find out a lot about our universe by observing the earth which is like a mini-universe. The whole is contained in each of its parts just like a hologram or a single cell contains all the information of our body itself.
I agree. There are still many alien looking species in the oceans. We need to clean up our mess and we need to observe the fact that we share this earth with many other earthly creatures. Maybe some aliens too but nobody will be living here if we keep on this wasteful trajectory. Each human must do their part to improve what we still have left after all our damage to our earth.
hard to listen too.. and this is my favorite subject. These “science 101” teachers exclaiming “we are boring” in reference to human life? Such statements show personal emotional bias in what should be scientific study and a terrible lack of understanding for the incredible complexity of life on earth and it’s evolution. We are apes that built cities and rocket ships and AI. These views are just stunning and pessimistic.
no, they meant in relation to putative alien civilizations orders of magnitude ahead of us in technology, form, structure, etc. -- to them, we are indeed (likely) boring. that's a logical statement to make.
Why do you think you need water for life? Why do you think carbon is necessary? Silicon forms four optically active bonds. Phosphorus forms five optically active bonds. Liquid hydrogen sulfide could support life. Liquid CS2 could support life. There are many possibilities for encoding information about life into molecules.
Isaac Arthur should've been on this panel.
Found myself thinking he could lead the entire conversation.
No kidding. This blabla here was useless blabber
NO, HIS FUCKING VOICE...... UGH😡
@@sk8drewsk8 you win the silliest comment of the day
Throw in John Michael Godier as well.
We can't imagine how weird or even in what way. We can only look at ourslvs and our own world and then project what we see out there in searching for it. So the universe - even our solar system - could be teeming with life without us being able to realize it because we're not able to recognize it. If we didn't know of vira already, likely we would not consider it a lifeform if we encountered it in space but instead see it as a precursor for life.
The title doesn't really match the discussion. For an intelligent discussion of just how weird life forms might be out in the universe, look for the 1980 book Life Beyond Earth: The Intelligent Earthlings Guide to Life in the Universe by Gerald Feinberg and Robert Shapiro.
This is the worst panel I've seen in WSF. So much talk about nothing. Oh Brian what have you done....
What did you expect with 4 silly girls up there?
The gentleman said "we won't be humans anymore".... I disagree 100%. Only species that need to change to adapt to the surrounding environment change. Successful species do NOT change. Example, crocodiles. The only change in them in 100 MILLION years is the size. There was no need to evolve because the species is literally perfect for the planet. So as long as the earth remains inhabitable, we will never physically need to change.
I also can point to the genetic research around our 2nd chromosome. Anyone want to know the reality of what we are and how we came to be this way???... simply study every bit of research you can find about that specific chromosome. The facts will blow your mind... and will prove that Darwin was only partly right.... and even now, a new theory of evolution is being developed.
What kinds of physical characteristics would technologically advanced extraterrestrials necessarily have to have? For example, I assume they'd need some sort of sensory apparatus, some way to move around, and some way to manipulates objects in their environment. What else would they have to have in order to be able to make and use technology?
Great question. Has me thinking. 🧐
Please read this. I need answer.
I had a weird experience back in 2018/19.
I was staying in a hostel. It was almost mid night. It was shimmering rain ( light rain) outside so it was quite cloudy.
Suddenly at 11Pm -12 am One of my friend asked me to Hurry up and come with her at the terrace. We 5-6 people went there and that weird thing happened.
A cloud was in the sky , something was glowing from inside the cloud in three places. Like in a triangle corner.
We wear staring at that glowing cloud for a while (2min) . Suddenly the cloud moved above us. Just like that in an instant. Like that glowing cloud acknowledged our presence and moved just above us.
That cloud was really close. It freaked us out and we rushed to our room.
GREAT TO SEE THESE VERY BRIGHT WOMEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MOST INTERESTING
SUBJECT ! TWO THUMBS UP !
Why women ? I've just noticed coz you mentioned it...otherwise i was seeing human beings
Typing in all caps is the text equivalent of shouting/yelling.
I've been on this planet for 55years since birth and I have still not seen anything like it before.
I haven’t even found evidence of my love life, let alone alien life.
Tell me about it.
This comment is to real lmao
look in your sock. :-)
@@paulforster6229 lmao
My true love life is my hands lol.
A lot of work went into the opening montage. Excellent work and thank you.
ET life is all around us outside the visible spectrum of light. We live in an entangled multiverse and all future and past beings exist simultaneously everywhere. Some of them help us individually and we call them angels. They care because they are past versions of ourselves and want us to evolve based on our personal receptivity. Chew on that and carry on science geeks!
INTERESTING POSTULATION AND THEORY !
John Linden thank you. It isn’t a theory. But is it provable? I would say that there’s enough circumstantial and indirect evidence to suggest a likelihood just based on open circulating material from many different sources. Some of it may actually be direct, but that’s subject to interpretation. For some people, they just know things in ways that others may claim as just someone’s personal belief. And that’s how it should be. But I do understand what you mean.
I can’t wait for the James Web Space Telescope. I really hope it launches when they say. As long as it’s perfect to go.
The answer is in quantum science, other dimensions or a parallel universe, not on an earth like planet somewhere in our milky way. What are U.F.O.'s, and where do they come from and where do they return to.
There is stuff on earth we still can't see or comprehend
The answer is more than likely a bit of both but as stated there are many things on earth we have not yet discovered no doubt.
Talking about traveling 1/2 the SPD of light. We're so limited in our thoughts as humans not to think that space traveling species can't subvert the laws of OUR physics as we know it. They can probably travel from galaxy to galaxy instantaneously. They've probably been to the edge of the universe if there is 1.
100% agree. If there’s other intelligent life out there, they are probably way beyond what our minds can even wrap our minds around technology wise.
I don't find when this was posted but, I want to point out that when they mention technology, I don't think they mean bio-tech & when they say inteligent life they mean humanoid life, like us. So what they are really looking for is a humanoid, technological inteligence or a SAVIOR!! They are NOT looking for what is more likely; fungal, insectoid, plant like, animal astro-biology, which our universe is teaming with. This they do not want to know about, or us to know about, because then we would know that we are prey items in the big picture!!!
I often imagine there are beings that exist beyond the third dimension that we would only be able to see a small part of, the limited part that enters the third dimension.
You are thinking correctly
Not impossible, we've seen 2d stuff
I participated in a meditation retreat called “Awakening Wisdom” at Bodhi Meditation in Richmond BC. It’s a standing meditation practice with guidance and movement. The instructions are in Chinese and translated to English.
On the second day of the retreat, I could not hear the translation, all I heard was static noise. I turned the receiver off and proceeded to continue the practice observing the movements of the participant in front of me. I saw two flashes in midair in the hall to my left. One went over my head and the other landed on an empty meditation cushion one row to my right and one row behind me. There was an opaque column of light about six feet high.
A participant came a few minutes late to the retreat and went and stood on that cushion and both were sharing the same space. I was observing them for a few minutes and went back to my practice. I can see an intensive white flash that was occurring. I stopped and turned back to see what was making the flash.
When she was moving slowly or still the opaque column was visible. When she made a faster movement the column of light disappeared and became visible again when she was still or made slow movements. That was the flashing. Th appearing of the column of light.
On another day a German lady, Alexandra and I saw this whatever it was. She was repeating my name and pointing at the cushion between the two of us.
So if we become artificial, and if we find we are even "in a simulation" , then what are we really, if organic matter is replaceable, yet we still go on evolving? I think we are all getting ahead of ourselves, until we can answer that question about consciousness, and the ability to be aware and create networks etc.
WHEN SOMEONE ASK ME IF I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS, I TELL YES, I'M HERE, AREN'T I?.
Nice
Nice . This planet. " Plan-Net " sucks..... Can we go travel back to yours
Typing in all caps is the text equivalent of shouting/yelling and is often considered rude/obnoxious.
Did the intro really need to be 17 hours long?🙄
Kev Pearson you cant fast foward?
Sook
With regards to the issue of "where is everybody?" and the fact that more advanced civilizations should by now have reached us, I need to remind all that on Earth most of colonization has been carried out by Europeans. Other equally advanced (or more advanced) civilizations such as those of the Indian subcontinent, Chinese, Japanese, Maya, Aztec or Inca did not care to leave their shores and have the compulsion to travel to the other side of the world and visit or colonize us. This means that an advanced civilization might have absolutely no desire to travel beyond their sphere of interest....even if they could. Of course, though, one needs only one of these civilizations to wish to travel to actually colonize the galaxy pretty quickly...
Why people want to find intelligent life out of our planet!? I struggle to find intelligent people on ours!
original
Wow what a creative comment
I think we have to many Dick Heads on planet Earth that make us all look and sound stupid and dick heads if only we could wipe off the human dick head race on planet Earth Earth would be a better place
@João Fernandes you know ot bro.
Sooo old..wtf
Just watched a video about the James Webb Telescope about to be launched in December. Can't wait!
I appreciate it a panel of mostly women in that it is a discussion about life & womem are life givers.
What does gender have to do with it? Wouldn't you just want the most insightful, educated, and objective people wether they are men or women?
That was a beautiful thing for you to say and appreciate. 💗
And I want to add, there would be no life for women to even give, without the men. 🙏💫
The sperm is alive, and is given that life and created in mans balls. A woman’s eggs are alive but are created while they are forming in the mothers womb and are not created like sperm to be a living organism. Women are the gestation tubes, not the life creators. The sperm is created, then enters an egg where it gestates, not is given life again. The sperm has the x and Y chromosome, so has the code Info for more eggs to be replicated once inside an egg if the baby will b female, so you see.... your comment was so wrong and commonly assumed it really irks
20:58 what we are *literally* experiencing at the moment. Smh….
Almost certainly in most cases. I find it ridiculous how so many movies portray extraterrestrial life as humanoid beings. I understand it stems from a lack of imagination. It's just annoying sometimes.
No, its to be able to have a human play the role instead of cgi or having to hire a real alien.
Well in the past they didn't have much of a choice cgi wasn't a thing and if they made something out of paper mache it'd just look ridiculous. And much of Hollywood takes inspiration from early works they grew up on so that's a part of itm
It cracks me up when these people who are so smart and highly educated BUT have very little awareness or ability to truly investigate things on their own and reach their own conclusions. I'm a former investigator with insurance background I did arson and fraud investigations. I suppose the things I learned over that decade serve me well now daily. I knew for decades UFO's were real simply due to the fact the observers were highly credible, multiple observers and they kept their story together over a very long time decades in some cases. If you've ever dealt with people on investigations you know that simply doesn't happen with groups of people making things up. Second, my statement stands on the fact David Paulides has investigated numerous missing people cases and what he has found causes hair on your back to stand up. Last you can simply be completely lazy and just watch Skinwalker Ranch episodes and see there is something messing with us on this planet and it ain't no man!!
There is no need to look "out there". They are already here, and very much like us.
Do they ? Like they live in our identities? Wow
@@annabelle9108 Dear Alejandro, I don't understand your meaning "live in our identities".What I mean when I say "they are already here" is they are already interacting with humans. I communicate regularly - daily - with an extraterrestrial from a higher dimension. I don't know how many people have the same relationship, but I live in a small town and know of one other person who gets regular visits. I think there are many around the world who are in regular friendly contact with ET.
@@AndrashSpooshkash I know exactly what your talking about....
@@AndrashSpooshkash ☝️ ... they communicate thru frequency and they can form to what they want , they use gases and metals or mineral or something like mercury but not and it forms to temperature . I’ve been in one of their rooms in the sky, “ufos”, and they are not what ppl think .. I have so much to say about them but ile tell u what they told me as they played a game on a game board shaped like the Pangea and used dice and they told me but telepathically and in English “we are the harmony makers and chaos creators and are very vital to your existence “ . There were seven and they were made of mercury or something and it was cold and I could see they the room into the sky and underneath but could still see a veil of the grey room and they were in these chairs like the thrones in Egypt looked stone and they were cloaked and had long fingers and they were tall like basket ball players size and they had no emotion which made them come across mean to me but I think they just have evolved beyond emotion . Everything in the room was the same grey that same mercury substance or gas or whatever it was. I looked down and I could see my car driving On the road and one of the beings wiped the dice off the board and said “I am bored of this “ and he flicked my car off the road and they started talking amongst each other in frequency and I saw that I died in the car accident and I said ok so the answer is aliens I’m an alien and then I hear one say to the middle one she’s not ready yet and then in a loud stern voice in my head the middle one says “u are not ready yet” and my back started hurt and I woke up in the hospital all messed up from the accident and they don’t know what happened and I don’t remember anything but driving then being up with Jose beings . I was Christian, conservative at that, I struggle some with this , the whole “it’s really demons to lure me away from Jesus “ , but no not demons they were more intelligent I think not after any power from this world if that makes sense ..maybe we are just like crops and harvested at the right time ? Idk but I haven’t had another visit but I have had a lot of weird shit happen ever sense in my life that I can’t explain .. or can I
@@harmonymomentofbeing5753 Dear Harmony, Very interesting experience. I think I was on a ship only once when I lost a couple of hours while on the desert, but I have no memory of those two hours.
I can relate to your struggle with the religious - spiritual confusion, and also I can relate to the "weird shit happening". I think the religious-spiritual confusion is common because telepathic communication is almost like talking to God, but seeing the source of the communication in front of you and knowing the source is not a spirit but a flesh and blood being is confusing. The confusion lasted for me only a matter of weeks or a few months at the most.
The "weird shit" happens to me constantly. I call it having one foot in the 3rd dimension and one foot in the 5th. I call it the 5th dimension, but really I mean any higher dimension. Things happen that in our normal 3 dimension world are not possible so they are mysteries, but are possible if we are interaction with higher dimensions or higher dimension beings - people.
An example was 4 days ago. I always turn the heat down at night in the winter. Daytime I want the inside temperature at 62 degrees and down to 56 or 58 degrees at night. On the 17th I woke and it was 56 degrees in the apartment - but I had forgotten to turn down the heat the night before and so something was wrong with the heater or the thermostat - in the 3rd dimension. Or - my 5th dimensional friend adjusted the electricity going to the heating system for me. She can do anything with electricity.
Example - I set up a "trail camera" to watch my vehicle at night. A trail camera is a camera that is triggered by movement and is intended to take pictures of animals on their "trails". I could not get it to work properly - even sent it back to the factory and they said it was fine. So, I figured the camera was just too far from the vehicle and decided to give up on it, but my ET friend fixed it so it works fine now at the same distance.
There are lots of things that are "weird shit" in our normal 3 dimension world that are normal in a 5D world. Does this explanation sound true to you? It seems to me your tall, cloaked friends are keeping an eye on you and you are beginning a wonderful adventure. My ET adventure started 4 1/2 years ago and it keeps getting better all the time. (with some rough spots here and there)
Coincidentally, my ET friend is a female about 7 feet tall and very Human looking. Is that coincidence? Thanks for responding to my comment.
Excellent discussion, but the sound is so low!!!
Wtf with the absurdly long intro
Lincoln 9
It's to gain the children's attention.
@@cunbbse or to bore intellectuals awaay artism, the intellectual need to distract oneself from the repetitiveness ooo0of everyday life!
@@relentlessmadman r\I am smart
@@ruskimuejek665 I am not sure what you mean? but have benevolent curiosity!
Why does some of these alien/ufo videos have a "muted" volume? I honestly can't hear what is being said.
This only happens on RUclips. Vimo, Rumble and many others do not have this, "issue"...
Alien life can't be any weirder than some of the life forms on this planet.
the platypus
Nah
Right slugs, octopus, insects as a whole our planet has so much life billions hell maybe trillions of species on a single planet. The day we do come in contact with life on another planet with advanced intelligence or even something like and with intelligence of a mouse it can still be pretty overwhelming especially if say their planets life is just as diverse as ours or even more so.
I'll like to change perspectives with my opinion...
What if we reside in a different plane of lifeform system?
What if there are other systems which are beings... but beyond our system definition (of carbon composition or water based or DNA)?
The most intriguing system for me is our galaxy. It eats. Regenerates. Moves.
Sentient? Sapient? Procreate? Language?
If, yes.
How do we communicate with this being? Its single cycle of message would take us eons to grasp. Can we study it in that case?
Benny Lyngdoh
Who is to say that *our* laws of physics apply to other extraterrestrial life forms? The problem with theories in astrophysics begins with a faulty premise. An entire epistemological pattern can be reduced to fiction by a simple fallacy found in the premise of any process. We're dealing with a universal reality that is shared with different intelligent life forms, and I believe we rely too much on _our own_ phenomenology to define extraterrestrial life in terms of certaintity.
Am I sure I haven't seen this before? Like a year ago or something? Confused.
That's what I was thinking! Pretty sure this is a re-upload.
Think so yea.
Yes, I've already seen this.
Maybe they had a copyright strike on the intro?
They had an episode called "Evolution beyond earth" not long ago
Why is every sentence that's uttered spoken as if it's a question? Can't any of these people say something definitive or with a little confidence? Every time any of them say anything there voice goes up at the end like they're asking something. Are you telling me something or asking me to believe you? I'm 20 minutes in and I can't watch any more because it's maddening. It's like listening to a bunch of twelve year olds.
Thank you, Caleb, for including the other panelists. It became a 3 way conversation for a while there.
Does anyone know what musical score is playing in the beginning?
Redhead on the left is definitely stoned
I am sooo excited for spring to get here. It's going to be more mountain biking than anyone has seen in years
Alian 1 *life on earth has nuclear weapons”
Alien 2 “are they intelligent?’
Alian1 “no, they are aiming it at themselves”
lmao!! Good one....sad but true tho
Nice!
As soon as I heard, "in the words of one of our great cosmological minds", I knew I'd hear Carl Sagans voice
It is life the consciousness of the universe ?
We better be careful with AI if I am right you could theoretically build one powerful enough to predict the future with in margin of error and give you probable out comes
I like the idea that life may ultimately become the dominant force that shapes the universe. And maybe the reason we haven't seen any aliens is because everywhere that they would potentially colonize is already occupied.
Have you considered maybe they are camouflage ? And already in the area ....
@@JM-uw5mo yup
When I was in school I was told that what is designated as alive is based on whether or not they reproduce, react to stimulus and the ability to feed itself. That's why tree's and other plants are considered alive.
thats a pretty decent definition.. Even AI, if it becomes sentient, will have to figure out how to reproduce, and will have to find and maintain an energy source to endure thru the eons...
@@raidermaxx2324If I think about it my definition is also saying that life doesn't necessarily have to be totally sentient. If AI do become sentient then I can only hope our future doesn't end up being a version of the matrix or the terminator world. 😬 Yee. No frickin thank you. Lol
Good thing I’ve been getting weird just for this day
Please share these brief videos with other people. Thanks!
that equation have no basis. I mean, it does have one, one basis. therefore there's no equation. answer is only one. add one more, and there will be an exponential explosion of possibilities. so far, that equation is not relevant to anyone in any way.
that equation is worng... is ignoring "random" "time of existance" "dimension of parallel universes" ( like radio frequences) and the most important, travelling in time is travelling in space, but travelling in space is NOT travelling in time
The aliens are just like people. They are the angels from the bible. Ezekiel describes a round craft that flew back and forth like lightning.
There were 4 beings that came with the UFO. Ezekiel describes the craft around with wheels within wheels inside. The aliens have found wings, and four faces each. However if you know anything about flying, then you know what the angels are actually wearing. It's a helmet. The round craft that is descriptive of a UFO.
Indeed. Yet, given the size of the universe, this must only represent 'some' of the aliens. There must be others.
@@hassandavis yea ; have you watched the movie prededor. That's the devils. They are real physical beings. Just like people are. On these devil's are extremely advanced in every way. If you watch TV, watch the movie prededor, and you will know what were dealing with.
These animations are so cool. Thank you!
can you imagine something astronomically big, what is the biggest thing you can imagine. the biggest thing we can imagine is based on our eye range. you can try to imagine a planet, but whatever you picture is just not enough. just look down, you're standing on one, but yet you still can't.
Well, as Darwinian evolution has been mathematically debunked, we have to have another starting point?
Not just stranger than we imagine, but stranger than we CAN imagine.
Imagine there our planets like ours were life started around the same time minus a fireball wiping out dinosaurs ,there could be a planet like Jurassic park.👌
Very unlikely for there to be a planet with very familiar animals such as feathered and unfeathered dinosaurs
But there definitely would be some species that do have similarities to those on earth
Damian,somewhere far away on a planet where conditions are similar it is likely it could be possible .👌
Most that we encounter are digital projections, as many are too far away to physically travel. Their projections CAN still interact with your brain waves.
I like to think that spaceships are an archaic notion, and a more elegant solution to space travel would be to send printers to all the interesting destinations, and, from there collect sufficient local resources to print a basic body, or, perhaps, if there's complex enough life, sample and imitate those, where then, any explorers might transmit their digitized consciousness in a subjective instant without all the life support, space suits, food, environment regulation required by a spaceship, and on transmission arrival to a printer destination, print a body without concern of contaminating the local environment, and do an exploration in a body suited for the job, or even pre-adapted as an artificial biological imitation of local life with a human consciousness to do the thing.
I'm a little partial to this idea, because it also explains cats and people at Walmart. Are they aliens in Earth Biological bodies printed for the purpose of exploration? :)
But, seriously, the base technologies to do this are already here, today, just in their infancy, and lacking the sophistication required that will likely, logically be realized ... eventually.
It's a sensible approach to space travel. No space ship or space suits are needed, and we don't contaminate any location that already has life with Earth Germs ... unless we want to.
As to that, DNA is information, and the DNA of any, every, and all Earth Life could be stored, in text on a hard drive with these probe-printers, and if we DID want to contaminate/colonize a world, our printer probe could harvest local material and get to printing Earth Life suited for, edited, and tailored for the local environment.
Yes, it's certainly super duper Science Fiction right now, but, again, we already have the basics; 3D printing, 3D-bio-printing, AI, a decent understanding of DNA as well as robotics, and all the other associated technology to send printers to interesting places. It's really a matter of continued development toward sufficient sophistication to realize this, as well as patience. How long might that be? With AI assisted technologies, we might, perhaps, according some forecasts, realize "human-level" AI around 2030 -2040. That could certainly help speed up the development of all other technologies.
If we don't blow ourselves up before then, then, we might just see. :)
I love this idea seems most logical to me. Bravo absolutely brilliant 👏 🙌 👍
I can't get over this comment its literally the most logical thing I've heard regarding Alien life. And the people of Wal-Mart and cats comment was hilarious. Now when I go out and see strange things happening and people behaving in a peculiar manner(which has been happening to me a lot as of recent)im going to think of this and laugh. Thank you so much😅🤣😂🤣
No, we don't have, at the slightest, the basic technologies to achieve what you're suggesting here. For instance, transferring conciousness. We're nowhere near achieving this. We don't even have a working definition of what conciousness is and how it works. Second, about "printing bodies", no we're not starting to do this as you think.
At the current matter of affairs, it's far easier to build spaceships and suits than contemplate what you're saying here.
@@caty863 - My comment is ... TWO years old. It's also not about what we can do NOW, or even in the next 100 years. Additionally, it's not even really about what WE can do. The topic of discussion is aliens ... and I suggest a more elegant solution that ... aliens could employ.
Are you suggesting this concept is impossible? Are you suggesting it's impossible for aliens to be the remaining AI descendants of some previous civilization that made them? Are you suggesting sometime in the next ... several million years, or even thousands, or just hundreds we'll be stuck at our current level of technological development without ANY progress?
Try not to get stuck in the mud of what's now. Explore current research, and consider what might could be by projecting the development of such technologies into some distant future. Consider that "aliens", if they COULD travel interstellar distances (something we can't do right now either), that they might, perhaps, have developed more than JUST the bare minimum technological sophistication to Star Wars between stellar bodies in clunky space ships. :)
@@caty863 correct.
Just a note. The aliens are diverse just like people are. They are the angels from the bible. Written in Ezekiel chapter one.
Ezekiel describes a round craft that flew back and forth like lightning. Not like a bat or a bird. The 4 aliens are described as humanoid, with hands and feet and bodies, a round craft that flew back and forth like lightning, and is described as very big and has wheels within wheels. And a cristal dome over the top. With a seat inside. V 26. As a throne.
Greetings everyone, good video, and thanks to the guest speakers. :)
Let me give you a universal definition of life, suspension, and death.
Life means a cyclic processor exists and is active in the system (a looping process).
All cyclic processors require lots of energy to operate (this is why ATP exists in cells). In any living system, if you stop the processor cycle, everything connected to it will de-animate and freeze up, like a statue. Keep in mind that chemistry doesn’t matter, and replication is optional and done by a living factory.
All factories are alive because they contain at least one cyclic processor (the factory process). Stop the factory process and it’s suspended, or stop it forever and it's dead.
An example of simple life (a desk fan):
Let's use a small electric fan on your desk as an example. If the fan is operating normally, it is "alive". If you stick your finger into a blade, the fan will temporarily suspend operation ("suspended animation"). When you remove your finger, the fan will resume normal operation again (it is alive again). If you significantly damage the fan's components, it will stop permanently (and be "dead", no more spinning). A power supply must exist to drive a processor continuously (it has to eat). In some systems, removing the power supply (in this case, the battery) will also cause damage and kill it. Also, the fan will age over many years, and accumulate enough damage to eventually die of "old age" (it will never spin again). As strange as it may sound, a fan is a simple lifeform.
If you want to detect life in the fan, you can hook up a fan-spin-detector, and show a waveform of the fan endlessly spinning (like a doctor hooking up a heart monitor to see if you're alive, or at least your heart is :)). To find the life in any system, just look for the loops.
This means you don’t need to find an alien ecosystem just to understand life. Technology already provides such an alternate ecosystem. You can see life everywhere (like robots, drones, turbines, electric motors, electronic processors, software processes, cars, pumps, aircraft, etc.). Technological systems are just as alive as biological ones. When you kill their processors, they die too.
Also, in nature vortices are cyclic processors as well (like dust devils). So, dust devils are simple lifeforms too. Although complex life is much harder to get, simple life of all types is much more common.
Thanks for listening. ;)
I love this idea.
And I'll like to add...
What if we reside in a different plane of lifeform system? What if there are other systems which are beings... beyond our system definition?
The most intriguing system for me is our galaxy. It eats. Regenerates. Moves. Cyclic pulsate.
Sentient? Sapient? Procreation?
If yes.
How do we communicate with this being? One of its message would take us eons to grasp.
Um... humans are the 'aliens' on every planet & moon we visit, even in orbit around our own planet. Humans Are Aliens Now.
I would share data and chemistry to make a reaction happen with all four of them
The Fermi Paradox explained. There is a beautiful loving Universe many people claim they experience when they are undergoing an NDE. Long before any Advanced Civilization gains the technology necessary for Interstellar Travel - they find a way to escape to that Universe. In other words, it is technologically easier to get to that other very pleasant and safer place, than it is to develop the Type II Civilization Technology necessary for Interstellar Travel. This explains why we have found no sign of an Advanced Alien Civilization anywhere in the Universe.
So nice to see four women on a panel discussion. I’ve thought, with the recent revelations about UFPs, that if we do achieve contact with another life form, it would be to our peril to have a group of mostly military men communicating with this life form. It would definitely unite humanity (hopefully) because we would have to have the best of the best of humanity represented. Both great thinkers and feelers.
Kinda sexist also
Strange experience. I thought it was a helicopter 300 to 400 feet above me story as follows:
Four years ago and trying to find out the logic of what I saw ever since.
It was 4:30am I was walking the dogs and this light caught my eye. I was not looking up at the sky just walking and the thing (UFO) caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. The craft was so low in the sky, about 500 feet up. When I looked up for the first fraction of a second I thought it was a helicopter, it was coming down. The next fraction of the first second I thought it was a Jumbo Jet. I had no fear that in my mind because it was silent I had nothing to be frightened about? Then I saw a perfect round shiny craft. This is what was coming down on me. I watched then it stopped and moved away towards the north of me. I could no longer see it as trees were blocking my view. I cannot get it out of my head to this day. It is the worst thing to happen to anyone as I don't know how much time I have wasted since then looking for answers. I have this thought that these craft do not fly into our world from outer space. They come from another dimension. If you can see it but can't hear it, does it exist? If you can see it so low in the sky but don't hear a whoosh of the air being blown when it fly’s away then does it exist? I guess the craft has had to come from a different dimension as it has properties that do not make sense in this world. I am still searching for answers but at least I know these craft exist. I have proved that this science exists (to myself) because I have observed it. This has changed my outlook on life and suppose I will take that to my grave. This just shows me that there is more to life than we think.
I had a similar experience and today I am more towards Jacques Vallee theory ...(read passport to Magonia by him )
All been suggested and debated on many times before. Nice to see equality put into practice also.
we don't need craft or telescopes we can instantly be there in thought "bi-location" transdimensional teleportation /hologram
Quite beautiful. A most delicious exposition of The Drake equation. Thank you so very much for your beautiful art.
??????? Creep
Everyone seems to like Carl Sagan, an exobologist whose series was widely broadcast in the US media. But, he didn't necessarily win his debate with Ernst Mayr, a grandfather of evolutionary biology, who argued against the existence of "intelligent" extraterrestrial life.
So much passion with these smart folks! Love it!
Such an intelligent conversation! And such beautiful humans to represent this topic! I love it! 🌎
Wha?
Life finds a way and there's an awful lot of places for it to try
"life finds away" ROTFLMFAO! very, very far away ha ha!
agreed
Name that movie😂😂😂
I love seeing so many women involved in science. My grandmother was very good in math and interested in science, but sadly it was not to be.