The Strongest Evidence AGAINST Eternal Security ⁉️ Ono Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2023
- In this video, I address David Pawson's mishandling of Hebrews chapter 6. I pray this video provides clarity and dispels any confusion concerning this subject. Once you're saved, you're always saved! God bless. - OD
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Once Sealed always Sealed, nobody can remove the Seal of the King except the King himself. Amen Brother.
And even the King 👑 won’t do it because He doesn’t Lie and already Said He would. So even Jesus can’t undo your Salvation. Because He won’t go against His Word He has already Given
Where does it say that this seal is permanent? The Holy Spirit is a deposit, and a deposit can be forfeited if the purchase doesn't take place later. The Bible does say (in the old testament) take not your Holy Spirit from me.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ you MIGHT BE SAVED nope you will be saved PERIOD .The Lord Jesus Christ is NOT an Indian giver.
@@theodoreritola7641 the word saved occurs in different tenses. We are initially saved yes. Given that the Bible says we can fall from grace, apostatize, have our names blotted out of the book of life, commit the unpardonable sin, those verses go against the idea that a single prayer trumps any future actions in ones life
Can you pluck yourself out of Gods Hands YES OR NO ?
I was once someone that thought you could lose your salvation. It was a miserable way to live and I was constantly filled with roots of bitterness. But then I humbled myself and let go of my natural understanding of the word and asked the Holy Spirit to help me understand. When I actually began to trust my best friend Jesus that he loves me with love that endures forever and that he will NEVER leave nor forsake me, the scriptures finally made sense. Eternal security is the truth. He is not willing that any of his children should perish.
If anyone thinks himself to be wise, let him become a fool so that he may become wise.
Unless you repent and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. I thank God he exchanged my knowledge of the word according to the basic and elementary principles of the world (I must earn salvation) with a simple, childlike faith, where truly I am free in his grace and give him thanks daily with full assurance of salvation. Please consider these words friends! Father God longs for you to return to your first love. I say this humbly and with confidence. I know whom I have believed and I rejoice knowing that I am his heir and nothing can separate me from his love. He has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ ❤️☺️
Join the winning team, rest in his love for you, and go for the gold!
Then all the warnings are for what brother!
Have you red the 7 letters to the church in revelation!!
I hope your right brother
@@thefightofthelamb That is just what they are, warnings. Not one warning says you can lose your salvation. That is why people who think their salvation can be lost need to reread the Bible.
Thats the exact reason why I ran from God, and lived how I wanted. I had this concept pounded in my mind, I could get saved from all my sins, but still go to hell anyways, because of sin. I had this twisted view of God in my mind, that He was really just waiting for me to mess up, so He could toss me into hell. This belief creates fear and misery, not peace and assurance. In 2018 I finally heard the gospel preached, and back up with scripture, about eternal security, in Jesus, not Heaven. I still struggle, with my mindset, and its been a slow road, to get to where I am now, assured, and at more peace. Teaching heresies, can have a life long traumatic impact on those, who were spiritually abused and starved, for most their life, by so called pastors, in so called churches, even by so called believing relatives and loved ones.
@@howyf Welcome to the Human World. I used to think that very same thing until,,,,,,,,,,,, I started reading the Bible and got away from those pastors preaching that salvation could be lost. The truth is Jesus said I cast out no one, I lose no one. John 6:37-40. Plus, Jesus said this, John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; They will not admit what forever means.
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. God Bless, you are in my prayers for comfort.
If Jesus is the good shepherd who can't lose you, automatically once you're saved you're always saved because you have eternal security in the one who can't lose you.
Right on
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10:29 KJV
You don't go to tribulation scriptures,and try to apply them to the church
@@barry9496 If they believe that's what they'll have to endure, let them!
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Now anyone is cursed (goes to HELL) FOR PREACHING ANY OTHER GOSPEL THAN THE GOSPEL OF GRACE 1 CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 , ACCORDING TO GALATIANS 1:8.9. 2 TIMOTHY 2:15, KING JAMES BIBLE SAYS STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD A WORKMAN THAT NEEDETH NOT BE ASHAMED, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH .
“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life
John 5:24
Praise the Lord for this verse. I have used this many times.
@@theleastofthese5369 Amen
Exactly. Jesus never added a 'unless you sin too much' caveat to that promise. I'll never understand this incessant need, from man, to have a weakened version of the gift of salvation where you can easily lose it.
@@AbrahamAdeyemiOSAS I use these verses, John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. I tell them, take it with Jesus.
AAAAAAAMEEEEEEEN Case CLOSSED
Like I always say. Salvation is a free gift. It is not earned, deserved or lost. Jesus paid it all so you wouldnt have to. You must be born again and once born again spiritually you can not be unborn no more than you can be unborn physically. Believe in the gospel of Jesus's death burial and resurrection and you will be saved.
The Lord just told me something GOD HATES Abortion Why would,,, he... give a Spiritual abortion.? He WILL NOT he or can we. ITS INPOSSIBLE
Amen brother eternal security is biblical truth!
Sure is, we are as good as being in heaven ALL READY
Just find out my church was a work base I didn’t even know I was going for like 4 weeks now I just find out today I had to leave up outta there 😂💯
I'm going to Live Forever.
1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
OSAS 🔒
Amen 🙏
god bless this young man.
brilliant
OSAS till I croak over: HalleluYAH. Our God is good. Thank God my salvation has nothing to do with my actions. I've had people tell me I'm going to burn forever because I can't 100 percent forgive my Mother who abandoned me. What nonsense. Scripture clearly supports OSAS! Thank You Father for bringing me out of works based lunacy
Matthew 18:21-35
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[a]
23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[b] was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[c] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.
29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’
30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.
32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
@@PinkyToe I sent it cause he said he would not forgive his mother, it's a passage about forgiveness because Who are you to not forgive when God has in Christ, also it makes it clear there is punishment the hell is the giving over to the jailers
The thing about OSAS while it works it can become a fine line of delusion where you take examining yourself lightly, and as. Paul says work out your salvation with fear and trembling
There is peace in Christ and those who are his no one will ever snatch them out of his hand, but when I see someone here saying they won't forgive it's a red flag, like I have had trouble forgiving but In the end let it go completely after thinking on this when it was read in a church service, dudes gotta examine himself like all of us.
@@Keeper_Of_Faith why is it a red flag to not forgive someone(examining his fruit to see if he's saved) in your own words u said u had trouble forgiving someone until u heard a sermon and was convicted. Give him the same grace, let him come to himself. When u couldn't forgive someone, was there a red flag for you?
@@josephmetts3085 when I had trouble forgiving someone I wasn't boasting about it as If in that state Im saved I knew it was a issue that has to be resolved hence the sermon convicted me, the entire comment I sent him in itself is giving the same grace as it was a sermon on parable itself which convicted me, so if he really is saved and takes examining himself seriously all will be well but If he refuses to forgive and continues down this path then you'll have your answer.
@@Keeper_Of_Faith all I heard was works,works,works
The verses that he Quoted,were from the book of Hebrews,and it IS referring to Jewish Converts to Faith in Christ,Reverting back to the Temple system and the Levitical practises of sin offerings in Judaism! And it states that it IS impossible to bring them to Repentance! It Doesn't say ANYTHING ABOUT THEM LOSING SALVATION! IT ONLY STATES THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR MAN! TO BRING THEM TO CHANGE THERE MIND FROM JUDAISM! BUT WITH GOD,ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!
@@NickSandt how
Great comment
@@dansimpson271 The Letter to the Hebrews (written by Paul,but penned by luke Due to the High Quality of the Greek,this is the majority consensus of biblical scholars,but not 100 percent certain) was written to Hebrew converts to Faith in christ,and it was large Due to the concerns of the influence of the JUDAISERS That were influencing the First-century Church in Reverting back to JUDAISM And the influence of Judaism on the hebrew converts to Faith in Christ! And they were Reverting back to the Temple system and the Levitical practises of sin offerings,and this IS the "wilful sin" that IS being referred to in the book of Hebrews and NOT Any other kind or type of transgression of mosaic law! This IS NOT merely my pet theory,but biblical and Historical FACT! God bless you 🙏❤
@@dansimpson271 BECAUSE OF THE CONTEXT OF THE LETTER! THE HISTORY OF THE FIRST-CENTURY SECOND TEMPLE CHURCH! AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A LETTER SPECIFICALLY TO THE HEBRRW CONVERTS TO FAITH IN CHRIST! THE TITLE IS SOMETHING OF A CLUE! WAKE UP! THE WILFUL SIN IS THE LEVITICAL PRACTISES OF SIN OFFERINGS! "IF WE SIN WILFULLY THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS" UNDER THE LAW! BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONE TIME FOR ALL TIME SACRIFICE FOR ALL SIN! YOU NEED TO BECOME BORN-AGAIN THEN YOU WILL BECOME BIBLICALLY LITERATE!❤
Amen the whole book was showing the people the new covenant and the new way Jesus the King
Love your channel, keep it up brother!
Amen brother!
Amen. Spot on.
Salvation comes by faith in Jesus Christ and His death, burial, resurrection, it begins with the heart and stays there, Jesus did it all, paid it all, OSAS, keep looking up, Jesus is coming soon.
AND I DO NOW totally believe I'm saved for ever wright now. God hates abortion Period, WHY WOULD HE ABORT His Children that are his? He Cant. once saved all ways saved is 100 percent guaranteed. I CAN'T do anything to lose it or do anything to gain it or keep it PERIOD It's so easy to live For Jesus now Knowing he made this all possible by trusting HIM ALONE
David Pawson certainly convinced me.
Well said brother 😊
Some of these lost works gospel heretics are so pleasant sounding, subtle and convincing. Wresting the scriptures to their own destruction
David Pawson was an unsaved goat.
Ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth
O you will be surprised
You should read the letter to the churches in Revelation
God is not your grand mama
That's a ridiculous statement. He was a saved man absolutely. If you have to fully believe in OSAS what makes you any different than him. You've just added something to salvation. I agree once always saved is the correct doctrine but there are people who don't believe it who are saved so I think you need to be careful how you speak of other believer's
@@matthewwilliamson484 Anyone who thinks that they can lose their salvation is by default trusting in their works.
@@joesacrifice2832 Anyone who thinks that they can lose their salvation is absolutely by default trusting in their works.
I believe that verse is teaching “if a Christian could lose his/her salvation”. it would be impossible to get it back because Jesus will not come back and be crucified again for sin.
Love your channel!
Amen.
That guy looking up after the preacher brings up osas make me think he want to believe its true but gets it shut down buy some wicked preacher. Good job as usual Onorato.
David was right!
King Saul, you think he was saved? If we say God is the same yesterday as today then I'm thinking that he was. David alludes to Saul's to this when receiving the news of Saul's passing, painting him as a brave honourable hero.
Perhaps David knew more regarding God's anointed than we dare to believe!
Sadly this is yet another example of someone who is teaching wrong doctrine. Once saved always saved is the true gospel!
We sure live in a tough world. Most importantly we all gotta pray and read our Bibles for our own selves. I have been bamboozled by so, so many people in my life: calvinists, lordshippers, extreme charismatics, sabbatarians etc. I am so glad God brings His children back from their huge mistakes even when they have wondered off into legalism as galatians did
@@NikoFinn the true Gospel was hidden from me by the same groups of people. Their deceiving and seducing
That is right
AMEN!!!!, THE GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD,1 CORINTHIANS 15:1-4,I,iS FAITH IN THE DEATH BURIAL AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST. iT matches Ephesians 2:8-9 for salvation. THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM IS TO THE JEW(ISRAEL). YOU CANT HAVE A KINGDOM WITHOUT THE KING!!!! AFTER THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH GOD DEALS WITH THE JEWS AGAIN. THE LIAR CATHOLICS THINK THEY REPLACE ISRAEL,SO DO A BUNCH OF OTHER LIARS. THE POPE AND HIS CREW ARE BABYLON OF REVELATION 17!
A true Christian has absolute assurance of their salvation in the fact that God will not take it away, no Demon or human can take it away!
BUT if that free will christian, like Satan, did chooses to reject and turn away from God he would be rejecting, losing, forfeiting it. But it is his own doing. He Choose knowing full well what he is doing! That is the only unforgivable sin, that there is no forgiveness for.
The Bible talks about this in many places.
We must remain faithful to the end. To come back from that kind of rejection would be crucifying Christ all over again. The Bible tells us this.
It would be better that that person never to have heard of Christ than.......
It is simple unless your selling some sort of denomination which was also forbidden. "I follow Paul?"....etc
Truth in Love
Amen,Hebrews 10:10 (KJV): By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”Hebrews 10:14 (KJV 1900): For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.”
Amen!
Seems like a sad and depressing service to be a part of.
Fr tho lol
Ikr😂
The holy spirit will not leave a christian . A person can not die and go to hell with God in him .
Another win.
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When Christians "fall away" is a significant passage used by those who do not believe in eternal security (Hebrews 6:4~8). If they are correct, then once someone has lost it, they can never get it back (for it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, Heb 6:4). And that's bad news because if sinning causes you to lose your salvation, it's gone forever. But folks who believe you can fall away/lose your salvation all think you can get it back. The issue is not salvation but instead the usefulness to God. Aka fallen away ❤
Guys, when you encounter people that always run to the book of Hebrews to assert that you can lose your salvation, point them to the last verse in chapter 10; which blows their argument completely out of the water! I will let you go and read it. Much love to you guys and Onorato.
Yes. Verse 35 also which mentions rewards.
Yes, notice he is talking about "things that accompany salvation" (v. 9), not salvation itself.
Yes please, Lord God, I'd be a fool not to take it. ✝️
Imagine arguing AGAINST the eternal security that the Bible teaches and calling yourself a teacher.
None of these types can ever quantify exactly what the "point of no return" is. Wouldn't it be important to know that?
Exactly right! If conditional security were true, the new testament would be loaded with examples to help us determine "IF" we lost salvation and instructions on how to get it back. We just don't find that in scripture...
If you don't understand the simplicity of once saved always saved, you do not understand the Gospel.
David Pawson Believes Baptism For Salvation So He For Sure Doesn’t Understand The Gospel
@@J_B_07Can you provide evidence of that? I am not for him, only I would like some evidence of your comment regarding him.
OH I REMEMBER HIM FOR HE SAID WHEN YOU ARE SAVED YOU ARE BEING SAVED IN OTHER WORDS YOU WERE NOT SAVED IT SOUNDED LIKE A LOT OF WORK I WENT OFF HIM BECAUSE MY GUT FEELING TOLD ME SO HE USED TO MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL
Hebrews 6 is about a loss of treasures built up by works in the spirit and not the loss of salvation. I think and hope!
The New Birth and the Cross Trump every argument that salvation can be lost.
Can apostasy corrupt the incorruptible seed we were born again with 1 Peter 1:23
Can falling away from the faith reverse the new Birth Titus 3:5?
Does God surgically fuse back the Sin nature that was circumcised and removed in Colossians 2:11?
Does God reinstate the sins he took away at the cross : Colossians 2:13-14?
Do we pass from death to life and back to death John 5:24?
Was Paul wrong when he said a believer has forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his Grace?
Was the Sin of Adam greater than the Gift in Romans 5:15-18?
Does man’s free will trump Gods power to save and regenerate a believer?
Does man’s free will transfer himself back in to union with Adam??
Well said
Hi. I agree with your analysis. Paul never warned the carnal Corinthians about losing salvation, rather God’s discipline. Possibly those in Heb 6 may not have been saved in the first place. Christians don’t just partake or share in the Holy Sprit. They HAVE the Holy Sprit who has sealed them. I’ve got a few OSAS videos on my channel. Blessings 😊
To deny eternal security is to CALL Our LORD JESUS CHRIST a LIAR.
This also goes for those who don't believe In HELL, creation the Virgin birth and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
These false teachers are described in 2 p
Peter Jude MATT:7 EZEKIEL 23 DEUT.18 and Revelation 20, 21 and 22.
If you are going to follow these liars than you will be in the company of the damned and sentenced to The Lake of Fire which is clearly spelled out in Revelation which says all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire.
It also says in Revelation that the inhabitants who are also judged by Christ will be those who loveth and maketh a lie.
If you would take heed to what God's Word says and not what False Teachers say, you would be better off.
I have studied the Word of God and I would not want to add to or take away from his word or have the Audacity to question what HE SAID!!!! There are plenty of scriptures that teach eternal security but the Devil also knows how to use false teachers to confuse the sheep so they can't know what Christ meant.
We walk by faith and not by sight!!
If you want evidence outside of scripture then you will be deceived!!
Because what false teachers of the Bible seek are those who accept what they teach, without the Holy Ghost's help.
False teachers are CARNAL and they understand only what a natural man understands.
That is why they can't understand the deeper meanings of scripture or accept deep Bible Truths.
Most false teachers are really agents of Satan and are inspired by him
They accept extra- biblical sources and also accept doctrines of devils: Such as evolution, science no judgment for sin, No Eternal Hell for lost sinners, man is good, deny creation: We can earn our way to Hea en, and many other false teachings.
If you question the Word of God? according to scripture you are a false teacher.
Because you are being carnal and not spiritual!!!
Remember we walk by faith and not by sight.
I've had a question and was wondering if someone could answer it. I have believed in OSAS for a while, but recently I have started questioning it. I was re-reading Hebrews and in chapter 6 it says, "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance...".This seems to contradict OSAS. The reason why I have trouble reconciling this verse with OSAS is because the author says, "were made PARTAKERS of The Holy Ghost...". Every believer has the Holy Spirit and being made a partaker of the Holy Ghost makes it seem like you have the Holy Spirit which means you are saved. Can someone help me understand this passage better?
Hey man! I explain the passage in this video.
Jesus said the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth. Seek the Spirit of God for all Truth. Jeremiah 31 the Lord tells you no man will have to teach you anything. By My Spirit says the Lord. Trust God alone and not man for anything. Blessed is the man who’s trust is the Lord and in the Lord alone in Jeremiah 17.
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
These people turn an addition problem into a calculus problem and frustrate the grace of God
David Pawson left out several key verses for the context of the meaning of that message when it is about no necessity to redo that which they did at the beginning when they got saved.
Hebrews 6:1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. 10 For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. 11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: 12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
Hence the message is about moving unto perfection like verse one says in running that race by faith in Jesus Christ to help us lay aside ever weight & sin daily ( Hebrews 12:1-2 ) in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son ( 1 John 1:3-2:5 ) for abiding in Him to avoid being cut off and left behind ( note verse 6 of John 15:1-8 & Luke 12:40-49 ).
So this truth is still maintain below:
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Former believers that would deny Him verbally are in danger of Him denying them ( 2 Timothy 2:12 ) but still when left behind, He still abides ( 2 Timothy 2:13 ) of 2 Timothy 2:10-13 for why we are still called to seek their good in the Lord to obtain that "eternal glory" that comes with our salvation in Jesus Christ by leaning on Him to see the truth to depart from iniquity to be received by Him as that "vessel unto honor" in His House, "vessels of gold & silver" ( 2 Timothy 2:18-22 ) , rather than be denied by Him for being workers of iniquity ( Matthew 7:21-23 ) and left behind to die ( Luke 13:24-30 ), but their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven ( 2 Corinthians 5:7-11 & Revelation 6:9-11 ) awaiting for their resurrection after the great tribulation ( Revelation 7:9-17 ) as vessels unto dishonor, vessels of wood & earth, to serve the King of kings on earth.
Hi ono, what study bible do you recommend, in terms of accurate verse commentary
I recommend getting a King James Bible and reading it over and over.
100% agree
Try not to read commentaries, most of them will weasel works into salvation. Instead do what ono is doing read the king James in it's context to come to your conclusions. And remember we have clear scriptures in John and Paul's writings to tell us salvation is by faith alone in Christ. So don't exchange those for obsecure ones like in Hebrews that are harder to understand.
Greek bibles are the most accurate but if you cant read Greek use either of these 3 or better use all 3 side by side because no English translation is perfect. I would also double check in the internet for any common mistakes in the translation you will be reading just to be aware if any particular words were not translated correctly (Yes they exist KJV or what not they exist).
LSB // NASB 1995 // KJV
@@user-fg6mq3dg3dfalse. The KJV has no errors. Stop spreading doubt in Gods preserved word.
How can a believer fall away.?
Would young don be an example for this?
Possibly, I think many false prophets are saved but got into very bad doctrine.
If Jesus died for all of our sins past present and future, does that not include the sins that cause us to backslide?
It's not a question of whether he died for our sins, it's a question of whether we continue to believe and accept this or reject it.
Some Bible quotes and The Gospel - How to Get Saved
KJV
Romans 5:12 - Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 3:10,23-24
3:10- As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one
3:23-24 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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-(How that Christ died - he shed his blood)
Romans 3:25
Whom God hath sent forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remissions of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.
Hebrews 9:22
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Ephesians 1:7
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Hebrews 10:10
By the which we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all
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Once Saved Always Saved
Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise.
John 10:27-28
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Is this man telling us that Christ's blood is too weak to save us unless we WORK for it??? Blasphemy!!!
Once saved always saved IS THE gospel. It’s unfortunate how many youtubers/pastors I have had to stop watching because they say we are saved by faith then say but we have to be obedient or turn from sin. Brother I would love to know your views on Christian music. Ive always felt so off with mega churches/televangelist/music but I recently caved in and started to listen to all the music because I had to replace my worldly music. I just feel bad knowing the doctrine/pastors/churches behind these songs. I hope you do a video on this topic soon! God bless yall
Lots of street preachers are for loss of salvation too. I think many if not most of them are legalists, and badly so. No christian should live in sik but, in my experience, what these street preachers do is they have lip service for grace, God's love and Jesus but once you have known sin they threaten you with fear of hellfire although you are in Christ Jesus, born of Holy Spirit, no condemnation
John 11:25-28
Jesus says unto her “I am the RESURRECTION and the LIFE, he that BELIEVETH in me though he were dead yet shall he LIVE; whosoever LIVETH and BELIVETH in me SHALL NEVER DIE. Beliveth thou this?”
Jesus said it himself. He said if we believe him to be the Christ then we will never die. Never means never. Not anything can separate us believers from Jesus AND the father. Jesus makes all of this crystal clear. Idky it’s so hard for ppl to see.
We should also consider the fact that the Hebrews he was talking to were going back Judaism. It was about abandoning the faith not merely backsliding. Remember that Peter rejected Christ but did not abandon the Faith. To abandon the Christian faith and go back to Judaism is like nailing Christ to the cross again. Let us not make the mistake to denounce the saving power of Christ because if we do so, nothing can save us
You can lose your place in the age to come. You can’t lose the gift of eternal life! Don’t equate things that are different!
I think this is more along the correct track. Especially with the description of who the new heavens, and new earth are going to operate.
Our eternal lives aren't spent in heaven as disembodied spirits, they are spent in regenerated incorruptable bodies that christ raises up to be like his. Because he is the first fruits of the resurection. (Although I'm sure there's a few caviates to that since he is literally god, and we arent)
But yeah there's going to be a perfect physical kingdom god sets in place that he rules over in his perfect spiritual providence. I don't think anything in scripture says you can lose the free gift of salvation/eternal life. But there are plenty of passages that talk about people losing "eternal rewards" and their standing with God shifting to better, or worse. I think those things refer to how you end up in the new creation.
Now don't get me wrong being in the worst place in the new creation will still be paradise. But you can indeed end up on the bottom of the totem pole.
Not that I think there's any kind of human hierarchy, at least not like we have here. I just fall short on analogies to use.
Jesus IS,WAS AND IS TO COME! aka eternal. If you can lose "eternal" life then the life you received was not eternal.
The false Gospels are everywhere.
We are far more down the path of judgement than most people understand or recognize.
The great apostasy has already happened, most people in "Christianity" today, do not know Christ.
You can’t go back to temple animal sacrifice. This was written for Jewish Christians. To do so is an unpardonable sin. This is implied. The old preacher with the nice suit and pleasant voice is out in left field. Onorato Diamanté, you live up to your name. I wish there were more of you.
Like Adam and Eve were once safe always safe. Had paradise and then didn’t have paradise because nothing snatched them out of God’s hands. I guess God’s grip is stronger in the New Testament.
Prior to the fall, Adam and Eve had no sin and therefore didn’t need “salvation”. That’s an illegitimate argument.
Ive falln aslweep twice listening to this Guy
Wolf
This pastor has passed already as well.
Oh no 😢
Hebrews is addressed to Hebrews. At that time some Jews believed, some rejected, and some were considering the gospel. Reread the book in this light. The sampling and partaking that takes place is evangelistic to Jews. They have sampled the gospel, but have not come to believe. The only sin mentioned in Hebrews up until prior to this passage is the sin of unbelief, unlike other new testament books that chronicle list of other sins. Think about the pressure Jews were under to reject the Gospel, peer pressure, peer pressure, flesh etc. The brother language indicates a fellow jewish author.
I am so sick of so called theologians & scholars that can't study a books reason & overview first putting it into context.
Who was this book written too & why? What was happening at this time period to write this? What does this book have for me today? A so called scholar does not just get up and quote scripture as if it's being written to us as is unless he is trying to confuse or falsely preach to me.
Hebrews has two primary purposes: to encourage Christians to endure, and to warn them not to abandon their faith in Christ. These warning passages appear throughout the book (2:1-4; 3:7-4:13; 5:11-6:12; 10:19-39; 12:1-29).
The author of Hebrews shows the superiority of Christ and his new covenant over angels, Moses, the OT priesthood, and the OT sacrificial system. These are so inferior to Christ that it is futile to return to them-or to go anywhere else. Rather, believers should hold fast to their faith, because that faith is grounded in the most superior revelation.
The jews that converted or were on their way were left alone as the church scattered. Left with practicing jews no doubt persecuting these Christian jews. They needed a warning just as we all do continually. I don't need warning for going back to Judaism sacrafice like the jewish believers since as a gentile I only know of one final sacrafice - Christ Jesus. Of course if it were possible a true Jewish believer went apostate, denied Christ & went back to Judiasm there would be no repentance possible.
These fakes that pose as professors of theology, theologians & enjoy the title of scholar sicken me as do the drones that recieve their seed of deciet rather than study for themselves.
Ok, I feel better now
“I never knew you” Matthew 7:21-23 I once knew you?
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This pastor oozes a self-righteous smugness in his delivery, he does not test well in my spirit. Blessings brothers and sisters
The book of hebrews applies to jews in the tribulation.
Give me a Biblical instance where God called someone to serve Him and to do HIS will but asked their permission first? Is it possible for God to have called a man to become a prophet in the Bible without saving him first? Did God ask Paul’s permission before he called him? Did God ask the prophet Jeremiah if he felt like serving him? Remember that for free will to be actually free, God cannot force himself or his will into that person.
Everyone is a slave to sin without Christ, in Christ we are slave to Righteousness. We cant exercise true free will because we are not God. We can be lukewarm at best, we can either be slaves to sin or slaves to Righteousness, I choose the latter.
This elder brother is a studious, seasoned man of God. He obviously fears the Lord and means well. Doesn’t mean he’s infallible. Truth is, there is significant evidence that supports both sides. The eternal security question has been debated for centuries by brilliant scholars. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a heretic. You’re a young man, growing in the Lord as are we all who are in Christ. You will find that later in life your perspectives and opinions will change in some areas. I’m not saying they will in the eternal security arena. I don’t know why the Lord made this crucially important topic so difficult. At the end of the day, His thoughts and His ways ARE higher than ours. I’m with you about 95%. I’ve been saved for almost 50 years. I’ve been studying, too. What I see is, relationships between 2 must be maintained and requires effort on both sides. So while we should seek God and spend time in His presence, salvation is different in that if it requires ANYTHING other than faith, we’re right back to us “earning” something - works. Imagine being in Heaven, praising our God and all over the Kingdom, people say or intimate, ‘Yeah, God IS good!!! BUT…you wouldn’t believe what I did.’ If there were a difficult passage here or there, it would be one thing. I’ve never counted, but if I had to guess, I’d say 50+ items in the NT cast doubt on OSAS. Why so much? In any case, I’m essentially with you for the reason I stated. That said, I do believe that the Lord has clearly shown me that faith and grace are intertwined and inseparable. Think about that. I doubt you’ll even read this, but someone might.
Appreciate the comment! I address many of these so called “problem passages” in this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PL2x4gz8z19J92xUQJS8TeTfFMtbE1Nx72
@@OnoDiamante Thank you for your response. I respect you very much. Will certainly review the playlist.
This passage doesn't use any terms explicitly describing saved Christians or believers "losing salvation." Has this Pawson guy considered the possibility that the book of HEBREWS might be addressing HEBREWS? Why would the author bother with all this stuff in Hebrews about the old system of the law and priests making continual sacrifice if he's simply trying to say "Saved people, you need to act good or you'll lose your salvation and go to hell!"? The Jews as a group WERE the people of God, God's vessel to carry out his purposes on earth. They tasted the things of God, to them were committed the oracles of God. When Jesus came around, specifically coming to THEM, the Jews as a group needed to get with the program and believe on him to be God's people. Individual Jews, like all people, needed to believe on Christ and not their works to be justified, just like Abraham and David were justified by faith in God without works (Romans 4).
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
But the Jews at large, as a group, rejected Jesus and didn't get on his program, and tried to be justified by the old system, by the law. They were the ones who ORIGINALLY crucified Jesus, and would in effect be crucifying him AFRESH by their refusal to embrace him and be in the people of God and be justified by his sacrifice and his gift. The few Jews that did believe on him were saved and sealed, eternally, just like anyone else who believes on him for it.
Why try to insert some complicated loss of salvation doctrine here, when the rest of the New Testament so many times refutes it? Doesn't it clearly say in this same book - "But this man, after he had offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOR EVER, sat down on the right hand of God" and "For by ONE offering he hath PERFECTED FOR EVER them that are sanctified."?? Understanding this is not that complicated when you pay attention to *context.* (check out Hebrews 9 and all of Hebrews for more context)
Hebrews 10
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
I was born and raised in the SBC. Every time this difficult topic comes up, there will be numerous people who quote a small collection of more soothing verses that seem to comfort the uneasy amongst us. I agree; such verses do indeed appear to suggest that salvation cannot be lost. But they are cited as though, because they exist, we are supposed to entirely forget that the more troubling verses also continue to exist, as though we can ignore the one because of the other. The problem is, though the comforting verses are real, they do nothing to erase the more troubling verses, which are also real.
I find holes and leaps of inference within the arguments presented in this video. Try as I might, I can not make these verses say what the presenter suggests, and what I desperately want them to say.
It is clear to me that God, for reasons sufficient to himself, does not want to give us clear, cut-and-dried explanations of issues that are important to our eternal destination. He is all knowing and all capable. If he chose to, he could certainly write passages clearer than these. As an editor, I would not allow something as disarticulated as these writings to pass my desk. God is certainly a better communicator than I will ever be, yet he leaves the issue unsettled with apparent intention. I trust he has a plan.
Once again I am left not knowing how to believe about an absolutely crucial matter. I am grown existentially tired from the confusion.
Someone will say, simply follow Jesus and you needn't concern yourself with such texts. This, I concur, is a marvelous idea. But too many of the faithful obey God but imperfectly. Certainly I have failed multiply.
Someone else will say we must have the Holy Spirit to divide the word rightly. Again I agree wholeheartedly. But multiple believers interpret these texts in multiple ways, all of them mutually exclusive to one another. They cannot all be right; someone must be wrong. Yet down to the man each believer will claim certain fellowship with the Spirit of God and infallible authority regarding the problem. And so the disagreement continues, as it has for literal millennia.
Increasingly I worry that there are more of us believers unknowingly destined for hell than we realize, not because we are elect or not elect, but because we are too stupid and insensate to hear the voice of God. May Jesus rescue us from ourselves.
And still I must get the kids in bed...
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God’s word is crystal clear concerning the matter. Man confuses and convolutes the message due to their pride and self righteousness. Is there any sin your child can commit whereby they would forfeit their sonship? Is your love towards them unconditional? How much greater is God’s love and faithfulness to his children? I am persuaded that NOTHING can separate us from the love of God!
@@OnoDiamante Thank you for your encouragement. I envy your certainty. I will continue to watch your videos. I'm subscribed now.
@@OnoDiamante Romans 8:38-39. Such beautiful verses, and I believe them completely. Yet even as a little boy I read them and wondered if the "love of God" really meant the "salvation of God" as those arguing OSAS seem to interpret it. I have no doubt that nothing can separate us from the love of God. Does that also mean that nothing can separate us from fellowship with God once we are saved? Does not God also love even those unbelievers who will go to hell?
David Pawson is problematic at best.
Funny Pawson is a Calvanist
Is he? I freaking knew it. I was about to look up his credentials 😂
How many sins is backsliding Vs ‘rebrobating’ yourself 😂
Galatians 3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I made 20s 😂
1:42 i hate whisper asmr
Peter denied Jesus three times. So was he at the point of no return? 😂 He sounds like the creepy Catholic Grandpa that tells his grandchildren...''now if you don't drink your milk and eat your vegetables, then your going to die and go to childrens limbo."🧐
5So I want to remind you, though you already know these things, that Jesusb first rescued the nation of Israel from Egypt, but later he destroyed those who did not remain faithful.
case closed
God is not your grandma
God is love but he us also a consuming fire
Why do you call Me Lord and do nothing I tell you said the Lord Jesus . Don’t take that chance
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If ( it were possible that)they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.".
1 John 3:9 "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin - (´is not able to sin' ού.δύνατται άμαρτάνειν´), (transliterated from greek) because he is born of God."!!
The correct answer to this is called
Rightly dividing the word of truth
Pauline gospel of Body of Christ Vs Kingdom gospel
Both are different gospel
4 gospel and Hebrew to revelation are for kingdom gospel and for 7 year tribulation period Jews
Pauline gospel which is Romans to Philemon is the gospel of Body of Christ which is the current dispensation of grace
Kingdom gospel has works in it for salvation
For example if a believer turns back to take mark of the beast he will be lost
They need to endure till the end
But under Pauline gospel a believer is sealed until the day of redemption
Once saved always saved
I used to think like you, but Paul is clear that there was always one gospel, and that even in the old testament. It was always by faith in Jesus (messiah), not by work. It will be the same in the 7 year tribulation, people will have to believe the same gospel as us today. Avoiding the mark won't be a work, saved people will know it has nothing to offer to them, the polarity between God and Satan will be extreme in those days. The danger of believing multi dispensationalism gospels is that you could say that Catholicism is true because it's another dispensation after the teaching of Paul.
Onorato you have some really great videos but in this one it’s really not clear WHY you believe that this passage is talking about God’s discipline for believers and not eternal judgment. You state what you believe but not why you come to that conclusion.
It's always reassuring to know that your theology lines up with sound Biblical preachers!!
• Joel Osteen
• Creflo Dollar
• Benny Hinn
• TD Jakes
• Joyce Meyer
• Paula White
• Kenneth Copland
• Paul Crouch
OSAS and prosperity preachers go hand in hand!!
That’s your argument? So is the trinity wrong because the Catholic Church believes it?
@@OnoDiamante My argument is that what you are teaching lines up perfectly with what Benny Hinn teaches. And, at the very least it should serve as a major red flag! You are leading people to Hell by these teachings. OSAS only serves those with itching ears!
Does satan pay you per hour or per lies spread?
@@knappingrk yes I agree! Do NOT grieve the Holy Spirit because this is the way you are sealed. Notice the do NOT part as it clearly is a strict warning. If I was to tell you not to do something can you still do it?
@@plantedbythewaters2813if course you can. Geez you think you keep every commandments in scripture? I mean maybe stop being a fricken hypocrite once because I guarantee you don’t. When is the last time someone borrowed something from you and you had the NERVE to ask for it again in direct violation of Jesus commandment.
You cannot lose your salvation, Hebrews 6:4-6 is greatly taken out of context sadly, it’s sad to see a pastor take such a verse out of context, Roman’s 8:29 says God basically knows who would be his and who wouldn’t, know think logically here for a second, why would God save someone, if he knows they will walk away or lose their salvation? Bible makes this very clear, the Bible also says God will do a finished work in us, if we’re born again but lose our salvation, then how can God do a finished work in us? God knows who will truly be his, therefor he won’t remove the Holy Spirit from them, you are teaching a false doctrine and twisting scripture without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, you first have to understand who it was written to, and the context, Roman’s 4 says it is by faith that you are saved, Hebrews 11 basically says the same thing, saying that it has always been about faith, not if you can lose your salvation, then you would have to work to keep it, but that is impossible because it can only be by Jesus work on the cross that we are saved, now, because a true born again Christian is saved by faith, their faith will produce good fruit, or works, because they have faith, faith produces works, but we are saved by faith, not faith + works
He’s a creepy guy and does not understand scripture 😢
He sounds like the Creepy Catholic Grandpa who tells his grandchildren. That if they don't eat their meat and vegetables. That the boogeyman is going to come and take them to children's limbo.
Eternal security is in opposition to the man made notion of free will. If we have free will to freely choose or reject Christ as our savior, than being eternally secure forever doesn’t allow the free will to perform as it is apparently supposed to. Your saying on one side of your mouth that YOU make the decision to initiate your salvation and that God cannot interfere with that freedom but than once the decision is made it cannot be undone again. Eternal security is a Calvinist belief. Stop stealing equity from Calvinism to fund your argument. If you truly believe in “free will” than you must hold to the entire “truth” of it.
Bring me a verse that says you have free will and that you're not either a slave to sin or slave to Righteousness and while you're on it I already brought one that says the exact opposite of what you claim.
Romans 6:15-23
New American Standard Bible 1995
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin [a]resulting in death, or of obedience [b]resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that [c]though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, [d]resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, [e]resulting in sanctification.
20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 Therefore what [f]benefit were you then [g]deriving [h]from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you [i]derive your [j]benefit, [k]resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Once saved NOT always saved
God does not take your free will to walk away from the faith we’re not prisoners
Timothy 6:12
12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
Read your bible mate, those in Christ are slaves to Righteousness. And before or without Christ we were slaves to sin.
Romans 6:15-23
New American Standard Bible 1995
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin [a]resulting in death, or of obedience [b]resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that [c]though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, [d]resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, [e]resulting in sanctification.
20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 Therefore what [f]benefit were you then [g]deriving [h]from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you [i]derive your [j]benefit, [k]resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@user-fg6mq3dg3d did you actually read that before sending it ?? It doesn’t strengthens your case at all
@@jonathantalavera3284 It would make sense for someone who could read the Holy Word of God but not all have that privilege since you need the Holy Spirit to actually understand it..
@@user-fg6mq3dg3d we can totally agree on that.
That precisely the reason why perverse doctrines such as once saved always saved still prevail after all the evidence the Bible has against it.
@@jonathantalavera3284 Riddle me this then, If I get saved now and I got unsaved later.
Who is at fault for the failure of my salvation?
Would it be my fault or God's fault?
My friend, you are encouraging believers to live a lifestyle of sin, to sin deliberately and live their faith in Christ in a state of complacency. The Bible sternly warned those who cause the ones who believe in Jesus to stumble, in other words to sin. You are playing with English words but please know that the New Testament was not written in English but has rather been translated in English from Koine Greek, the language used at the time the New Testament was being written and which was under the Hellenist influence and none of those translations comes exactly as the author intended the actual audience to understand any letters. This is because the exact meaning has been lost because of cultural context, historical background etc. And know also that the whole Bible was not written to us for us to interpret it in our contemporary time or in our cultural context. So, study your Bible hermeneutically and exegetically and if you want to teach to others the very true word of God, go deeper in having a clear and exact view of your Bible for what God intended us to understand; first of all approach the Word of God with humility and faith and in prayer, study Biblical Koine Greek, study the historical background, the cultural context of these times etc then you will be able to read and study your Bible with their eyes and understanding. Stop correcting others but teach this generation the very true Word of God and pray that the Holy Spirit opens first your intelligence, gives you insight and then to those whom you teach.
Remember!
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
James 3:1
My friend, you’re sorely mistaken. ruclips.net/video/Zr7JFqpzPsQ/видео.htmlfeature=shared
You are confused!
how so?