Ironically (or maybe not?) as an asexual #2 has always been my favorite couple. In the same vein Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling in Crazy, Stupid, Love is also one of my favorite love stories.
@@fightingfaerie as a fellow ace, I very much appreciate #2! But it's also just nice to see relationships talked about in a broader more encompassing scale
One other detail I noticed was that Karen is dressed to coordinate with the gold necklace, she's wearing a red sweater to catch the red in the necklace, and small earrings that would allow a necklace to take center stage. She was so excited about receiving a necklace that she planned her outfit so the she could put it on right away to wear to the children's play, just makes the reveal that little bit more crushing.
I cannot stop thinking though: who said that?:))) I've never heard something like that about Christmas. And if you think, it is usually the time families comes together, and the relantionships may be so vastly different... In more cases than not telling truths would just ruin Christmas for so many people, don't you think?))
@@alyonaf1054 Yeah, it really stood out to me when I was watching this how many variations there are of that phrase, and it's baffling--that is absolutely not a thing. No one thinks that a defining characteristic of Christmas is that it's a time for telling the truth. I feel like the screenwriter was just lazy and it was an easy way to move the plot forward--"Is it out of character for this person to behave this way? That's fine, just have them point out that it's Christmas!"
I will watch Keira Knightley standing and giggling for…hours but I HATE the “forbidden” “relationship” with Mark undermining his “best friend” in Love Actually and it’ has extremely creepy stalker ish and even racist undertones. Just UGH.
@@4Mr.Crowley2 So, he should move to Georgia and join the local police force? Got to get ready for that Zombie/Walker Plague, after all. And the "best friend" needs to get back to Wakanda
I love that Emma Thompson's character confronts her hubby so directly. So many times wives pretend not to know to save face or to avoid dealing with the pain which is understandable.
I think most people that has happened to, they kinda just shit off yk? Me personally, when I got cheated on. I remember just sitting down with a drink in my hand, frozen. Being like "what the fuck is happening?". To go further, I put my pain aside afterwards, (because me and my ex were still together) I tried to talk but bottling shit up made it worse. A key component to love, is sustainability and freedom.. Not sadness and repression.
And she doesn't attack him. She just poses it as a "What would the best course of action be?" and lets him know that she knows, and she just wants to know what he thinks.
This movie while charming is full of male misogyny with old men chasing hot young women half their age. The other part is just about feeding your hedonistic side with loose American women.
What's always struck me as extra tragic with Emma Thompson's storyline is that - had she not seen the necklace - she would have loved the gift she received. It was absolutely something he put thought into, more thought than she was used to him putting into gifts, and it would have been a perfect moment that he ruined with the irony of a gift he didn't think through at all.
I have seen people pointing out that if she's a big Joni Mitchell fan she probably has that album already, however. It's like getting an Abbey Road CD for a Beatles superfan.
@@apenguinnamedabraham 100% - I mean at the time of the film I was going through a huge Joni phase (lifelong) and I totally was like ‘she’ll already have that, you great cretin!!’
@@apenguinnamedabraham True, but it also depends. I have things that I have several copies of because they're *slightly* different. Maybe it's different cover art, or maybe this has one special track. Maybe it's a new release of a greatest hits album that, even though she has all those songs on other albums, this is the first time they're all on the same one. It's telling that she does go in right away to listen to it. That at this dark moment, she takes comfort from it even as it was also the cause of that pain.
The saddest part about Emma Thompson’s crying scene is that Emma told she drew from her own experience of betrayal. She was cheated by her husband - Kenneth Branagh - with Helena Bonham Carter. Heartbreaking.
This video at 20 would have saved me 10 lost years and 3 years in a hospital. Please let's start to educate teenagers on love & relationships. The quality of our relationships is one of the top factors of general health.
As much as I love Heartstopper, it pisses me off how many people are like "These are the beautiful experiences I missed out on because of homophobia". Like, it's good that healthy LGBT+ relationships are being depicted on screen, but it doesn't change that most teen relationships are messy and toxic and nobody knows what they're doing
@@morbidsearch Heartstopper is great exactly because it shows teenager what to do, examples of how they could communicate. Idk how old you are, but as a teen it definitely helped my friends a ton.
@@morbidsearch also sex education is a different thing - there are plenty of shows that show the toxic teen stuff. *and* Ben in heartstopper shows the toxic teen stuff as well!
As a brazilian I have to say that Colin Firth did speak poorly but still very cute. When someone makes the effort to speak your language even without knowing very well is very charming and sweet.
I always wished they'd made his Portuguese as bad as it is in the subtitles! They mistranslate him to such an extreme that it's almost distracting. That scene is so sweet.💜
These two are my personal favourite relationship in the film, I just think it’s very wholesome and genuine, and being Portuguese (bilingual Portuguese and English) I appreciate the hidden details put into what they say in their respective languages. And to go and learn eachother’s languages is so adorable and such a genuine gesture that says they want to be in eachother’s life in a real, committed way. (I did notice some mistranslation in the subtitles as well but whatever)
This is why I hate my ex friend so much. Her boyfriend at the time actually started to learn her grandmother’s language in secret because SHE was learning it, and then after 4 years when he was about to propose to her IN THAT LANGUAGE she cheated on him
"Ultimately people have affairs because of a lack of integrity". Thank you for this. As someone who has been betrayed, for a long time all I could do was wonder what it was I had done wrong, what could I have done differently? Thank you for not blaming the victim and holding the cheater ultimately accountable.
I would say not always. People also have affairs when they’re been treated poorly. One example I knew, he hit her, and she felt trapped because she had 3 sons.
A you tuber I listen to sometimes says people have affairs because they get bored. And she says the boredom is because of routine. She says once the couple sets up a life together, a routine emerges. The routine is boring for one person, and then he or she cheats.
"Ultimately people have affairs because of lack of integrity." Thank you. I'm fed up with people who dodge being accountable, won't do the work of healing themselves and run rough shod throughout their lives hurting others and never apologizing.
Even that was creepy. Telling your kid that you want to bang a chick in every room of the house including his (the child's) room is hella inappropriate.
I had my first romantic relationship at 14 years old with a 17 year old guy I met online. I told my parents and they both said that they are not sure if this is the best thing for me, but that it is my decision and they’ll support me all the way. That is what saved me because it was an emotionally abusive relationship and I was able to escape it because I knew I’d always have my parents’ support. They took me seriously and did not belittle me even though they could see from a mile away that this wasn’t going to turn out well. Edit: You can Stop telling me my parents made the wrong choice, I am not going to change my mind.
Thank you for saying this. What your parents did was probably the right thing, but it must have been SO hard, absolutely knowing it was doomed to be an unhealthy relationship but having to support and respect their daughter's ability to make decisions and watch it play out. I can't imagine the anxiety and grief they must have felt, knowing they had to let you make your own mistakes and just be there for you when it inevitably fell apart. It's so hard to let your child hurt. But really, that's the best thing to do for a teenager, because teens are wired to want to make their own way, and humans are remarkably bad at learning from another person's mistakes. They often need to make their own. I'm glad they were there for you, and I'm glad you got away from that relationship!
The sad part is that when you're young (generally teens, 20s) it's so easy to conflate a crush with actual love. It took me a long time to figure out that the excitement of a crush was just that, excitement. It can turn to love but mostly doesn't because you don't have a realistic view of the person you have a crush on. Most of these relationships in Love Actually were a crush. I found that when I wrote down my relationship goals it was definitely about shared values and goals. When I met someone that I had amazing chemistry with, that also shared the same values and goals it was a wrap. We both knew very quickly that it was a match. We've been married and in love for 15 years. We've had so many challenges and our relationship has just gotten stronger.
Agreed. My first husband was crush. Crush crush crush. And a REALLY bad idea. My second husband... together still 10 years later, still crushing, still head over heels, still truly madly deeply in love... this is love.
The way i see love is like you said, the thrill. The excitement. But there has to be a reason to stay. I think of it as love as well. The kind where you stop looking and you keep it with you. The feeling may or may not last so build it on more than just that. We want to be happy so we should surround ourselves with such people, platonically or romantically.
I didn’t know until just now that Alan Rickman died 7 years ago, in 2016, at age 69. What a bummer - he was in so many amazing movies, and was wonderful in all of them.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 He was a wonderful person too, if you look into that. He was my favorite actor, so much so that people from high school sent me condolences 😅
So aggravating that everybody currently can’t have ANY relationship without “so you’re banging? Because friendship isn’t a thing anymore and you can’t be close unless you’re gay, or you ARE gay for being TOO close with your guy friends”
This is why my favourite fiction trope is best friends to lovers - when the two main characters already have established a lasting connection, know each other super well, know the good and the bad, because nobody was trying to impress the other with only the best parts of themselves, and now they feel like a romantic element is naturally starting to entwine into the relationship? That's the best possible foundation for a great and happy relationship imo
Even just watching these clips of those Emma Thompson scenes rips me to shreds. So relatable and realistic of a woman falling apart inside but keeping it together on the outside for the sake of her kids or other people around her. 💔 Jamie & Aurelia - "I learned just in cases," is one of my favorite lines in any movie.
I cry every year when Emma discovers her Christmas present is not a beautiful piece of carefully chosen jewlery (which she knows he bought), she goes upstairs and cries.
Mark isn’t saying he will love Juliet until she is super old. He’s saying he will love her until the zombie apocalypse, which will happen relatively soon.
I know this is called a video ranking "romances", but since you included the stepfather/stepson I think its important to point out that this movie clearly intends to be about all kinds of love, not just romance. When the voiceover talks about "love being all around", in the airport scene, it is showing all sorts of love, not just romantic love. And we see this in the movie in Very Strong relationships not mentioned here- the relationship of Sarah and her brother, the relationship between Emma Thompson and her children, and also especially the strong friendships and familial connections between MANY of the characters in the movie which create a throughline for the whole film- which is ultimately a web of connection, a giant web of love.
I am surprised the relationship the woman has preferred to the coworker she has been infatuated with - the relationship with the brother - was not ranked
I too love that in the Number 1 relationship the stepdad puts aside his unresolved grieving to help his stepson navigate through the agony of being in love. Brilliant, touching writing! Yes, this is my favorite love story, tying with the son and the little girl's "love" storyline. Merry Christmas to all who are loved and want to be loved! ❤️❤️❤️
Precisely, I love that aspect of the story, and how Daniel and Sam's relationship gets stronger as the movie progresses. Daniel always listens to Sam, and never entirely shuts down his ideas, offers advice.
I interpreted it as he grieves but in a different way where he celebrates the love he shared with his wife in helping his step-son explore his feelings around love as well as his intentions. As a way to honor his wife, he shows their son how to show romantic love to another person, and thereby showing him familial love. And as a result as we see toward the end of the movie, he finds himself open to the idea of loving someone again. Perhaps not pursuing it immediately, but he’s not avoidant of it.
@@Sharkwizard As a writer, I'm speaking from the show-not-tell aspect. The scene where Daniel's silently grieving at his desk while gazing at his wife's photo, only to quietly put the picture aside when Sam enters the room, shows how much he loves the boy. This action shows that although still grieving, Daniel loves Sam so much that he willingly puts aside that grief (i.e. the photo) to focus a more upbeat attention on Sam.
in the sequel, Sam is an adult, and they are sitting on a park bench and Sam tells Daniel he's in love and Daniel says something like "oh not again" or "here we go again" (I forget the exact words)and Claudia Schiffer is not present
I love the scene with Thompson and Rickman. She chose her method of dealing with it which would both satisfy her dignity and also probably make him feel so much worse than yelling at him.
are you assuming that her objective was to make him feel bad? Rather than, say, actually work out why this happened and what they both wanted to do about it?
@@rachelsnee8926just came across this. Following the comment made by the relationship therapist I think its pretty darn clear and expected that the one who was betrayed would want to get the anger out of their system
I don't think she chose her method. Why would she choose to confront him at a public event for their children? I think this was a woman who just couldn't hold it in anymore.
I actually think the film is a very clever and in-depth look at love in all its varied forms. Some cute and innocent, some weary and heartbreaking, some frivolous, some fake as hell, some adorable, some hellish, some creepy. It’s not about all those relationships ACTUALLY being LOVE (see what I did there lol), it’s about what different people THINK love is. People are weird and twisted and sick and perverted and innocent and naive and adorable, so that’s what love is too… It’s cleverly done and one of my favourite Xmas films. Emma Thompson’s character gets me every single time. That lonely heartbreak is beautifully done.
I agree. I thought it was meant to be various dimensions of love. I never tire of watching it. I like how they referred to Alan and Emma as the greatest actors on the planet, because they are two of my very favorite.
Totally agree, I think it's highlighting the reality of what people go through or are doing everyday in relationships (whether it's the right way or wrong way). I also think there'sbeen some misunderstanding based on the tongue in cheek comments that we Brits are well known for!
I think that's an excellent point to keep in mind. The reviewers here seemed to indicate some tacit endorsement from the filmmakers of some of the more unhealthy relationships, I don't think that's actually the case at all. I think they are trying to tell a more profound story here where they are exposing the types of love, rather than endorsing them.
Even as a kid watching this film I always had a sense of what "good" love in this film was and what the "bad" love was. And maybe this wasn't the intent of the film at all, but I always felt it portrayed all the love we're blessed with and all the love that we suffer from.
I think that's a different perspective than the reviewers in this video took, however I think you're on to something. If this was truly trying to just show healthy relationships, it wouldn't have shown cheating, so the fact that it shows some of the other unhealthy relationships doesn't necessarily mean it is an endorsement of them, as much as just showing a variety of types of love. Now do we need to draw a hard line between lust and love? Maybe we should, but I think it's also fair to say that we don't always, and this movie shows that as well. On the whole, if you think of this less in terms of idealizing the different types of love, and more in terms of showing such a large variety, the movie becomes a different, and possibly more profound, form of art again.
I know one relationship that is basically "We're stranger to each other, that was one night stand but it was great. If we ever need it and are down for it, let exchange number to hook up" Which isn't even a relationship, they're just acquaintance with an agreement
Yes! I'm demi and it was nice to hear that wanting to get to know the person on an intellectual level first is not abnormal but actually makes a lot of sense when you want something that lasts. I always feel pressured to have sex right away :/
As a single dad who doesn't feel like I have the time or energy for romantic love, I wanna thank you guys for including non-romantic relatioships. And also tell you that I started crying at "and the next one, and the next one".
There's a movie I saw once where a single dad needed to find true love for "magic rules reasons" and after all the dates fail it turns out the love for his kids was the true love all along
What makes Emma Thompson's acting in that necklace scene more sad and believable is that (I believe) she was using her own pure feelings from her then recent divorce which was very similar to that scene/story. I've always loved Thompson, she is a great actress, and this knowledge of her personal life made that scene even more painful. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I always thought Sarah’s “love” story was not about hot young office guy, but rather about the love she feels for her brother in the institution, and the sacrifices she makes for that love.
I have to say, Emma Thompson could have easily played Princess Diana at some point. She is so good at what she does and the emotion on her face and in her voice, I felt it
@@Lavenderandsage I thought the same thing about Natasha, when I first saw "The Parent Trap", as a kid. Their hair cuts were nearly identical. As for Emma, I feel like Diana would've absolutely ADORED this movie, especially her performance, had she been around to see it. (6/20/2024)
That the two porn set lighting stand ins have the healthiest romantic relationship is both really funny, genuinely cute cause of their actual interactions, and incredibly ironic compared to certain other characters from this movie (Colin and Mark, I’m looking at you)
I find it very realistic tbh. It’s a job that requires having clear boundaries and being very aware of and careful about consent, as well as very attentive to your workmate to make the bodies look natural on camera.
@@halane4790 well yeah, I mean that makes sense. I was just talking about how it’s very (comically) ironic in context of the movie, which I have no doubt was intentional
They're not porn stand ins! Everyone makes this mistake - they're body doubles for a mainstream big budget hollywood film! Who ever heard of a porn body double? Martin Freeman's character makes reference to having once doubled for Brad Pitt on Seven Years in Tibet. They just happen to be doing a sex scene.
I love is Rowen Atkinson's character. It's almost like super naturallly there to make Harry's necklace purchase harder and Sam's airport run easier. 😊 Wonder if they thought to have him interact with all of the couples but kept it out for run time.
Wasn't there a dropped idea in the script that he was actually supposed to be an angel making it hard on purpose so he would make up his mind/get caught right there
I believe it was posted somewhere that the original character for Rowan was a guardian angel, and had scenes with each couple where he helps ‘guide’ them. But was cut for time
@@JessemyBeadleLast Christmas, when ABC aired a reunion special about the film's anniversary, it was revealed that Rowan's eccentric gift-wrapper routing wasn't entirely scripted. They were filming that scene really early in the morning, and he decided to get a bit mischievous and deliberately antagonize Alan Rickman. (6/20/2024)
One thing about the Daniel/Sam relationship that struck a chord with me when I saw this was Daniel being open to the possibility that Sam could have been in love with a boy. It's only a very brief moment, without fanfare or lampshading, but normalising and further emphasising his non-judgemental nature. For all of the things in this film that haven't aged particularly well, that's something that I particularly liked especially considering this was released back in 2003.
Sorry, that's twisted. A young child in a sexual relationship with an adult? This is what you took from their relationship? That is beyond disgraceful and I don't believe that the movie was suggesting it.
@@andywood5699 What are you talking about? No one mentioned or even referred to a sexual child/adult relationship!! How did you get that from what the original commenter posted?
@@ninjanibba4259 I can't tell if you have completely failed to understand my comment, or have other motivations. But my comment does not refer to any inappropriate relationships.
As a stepmom I thank you for pointing out this particular relationship. We are usually so maligned by storytelling than the few positive examples make my heart skip.
I think, the reason stepparents are so often shown as the evil ones is because they have the parent authority, without seeming doubly evil for mistreating their own flesh and blood. I prefer my stepdad over my biological father every time, though, so I, too, am really happy about good and loving child-stepparent relationships.
Stepmoms and stepdads get done so dirty. Obviously in any sort of relationship there will be bad examples, but the vast majority of people I know who are in blended families have wonderful relationships with their step-parents. I've also known many people who, for various reasons, end up having a closer relationship with their step parent than with the parent they "replaced" (I know that no one parent figure replaces another, I just couldn't come up with a better way to word it clearly.) My brother-in-law has two half siblings (they all have the same mom) but they all consider his biological dad to be their dad too. Everyone deserves to be happy, and I think that when a parent is in a good relationship it allows them to be a better parent to their kids, and if someone is marrying into the family I would think their love for their spouse would extend to the small humans they're raising.
It’s a testament to you and your love for your stepchild(ren) that such examples grip you so. Your family’s clearly very lucky to have you! Never forget that.
My wife and I had an amazing fix for the relationship between Peter, Juliet and Mark. If Mark actually had a crush on Peter. When Juliet sees the footage Mark filmed, it would just be close-ups of Peter. Mark and Juliet don't know each other but Mark and Peter have known each other for years. It would make a lot more sense for Mark to be in love with him.
@DangerRavioli Yeah, but Mark is completely in the dark. That's what makes that relationship so bad. And polyamory would remove a lot of the drama from the scenes in the movie. It would feel like too neat of a solution
I think the Jamie and Aurelia storyline can make sense despite the language barrier considering Jamie starts the movie with a big betrayal from people who lied to him, so then he falls for someone who technically can't lie, since she doesn't speak a language he understands. It's just an idea.
The first time I saw the movie was without subtitles, so I can say that even without knowing any portugese I totally bought that love story. In fact, when I saw it WITH subtitles I felt they actually made it LESS romantic!
It is one thing to be betrayed by your best friend over a woman like Mark with Peter over Juliet revealing his feelings for her behind his friend's back but being betrayed by your own BROTHER in the case of Jamie at the beginning of a film over a girl who feigns sickness in order to have sex with another man is a whole other level... Just terrible. In order to make amends, she'd just have to be a terribly great bitch who only wanted money and pleasure and the brother must have been too stupid and disillusioned with life to do that to his own brother...
This movie is one of the few that have ever made me cry. When Laura Linney’s character’s brother comes to light, I felt that. My brother is profoundly disabled and this is a very relatable moment for me. It’s rarely discussed, but should be. Also, THIS CAST! THIS CAST!!
Collin Firth's story in this movie "actually" happened to him. He met the woman who would become his wife when neither could speak the other's language. But they knew immediately.
Yes. They divorced after twenty-two years of marriage. Some details have been made public. My point was that their romance was used in the movie --- "Based on a true story".
@@davidweihe6052 She had an affair while they were going through a trial separation and he couldn't get over it. There may have been other aggravating details, but I've forgotten them.
I feel like "Love, Actually" is a movie with not very good plots, but lovely separate scenes (perfectly performed by an amazing cast). Can't help but still like it because of how well it's acted, shot, scored and all that. Everyone seems to give their 100% to sell these stories.
14:39 I love when people recognise asexual/aromatic people when discuss sexual/romantic topics. Thank you for continuing to be inclusive, it is so appreciated ❤ - An Aro/Ace
I always thought the Juliet story line was creepy. But I thought I must be paranoid or something because everyone in the world loved that scene with the poster boards. Thank you for making this video! I'll never doubt my intuition again.
As someone who was betrayed by a best friend in similar circumstances it disturbed me people thought it was sweet. It’s an unethical and immoral situation. Her husband should run a while.
Whenever we talked of love actually back in the day with friends, everyone agreed that the poster board/Xmas carols scene was cringe. Never met anyone who found it romantic. And the woman runs after him and gives him a thank you kiss, while her new husband is upstairs..m this is cheating
I don't think it's cute but I don't think it's creepy either, until she runs after him to kiss him - now, that I never understood. He was a bit awkward, she discovered why it was, he came to explain with white boards and I guess it's because he's still awkward at this point, even more so! So, he wasn't ready to talk about it and he wasn't able to avoid them either. Soo, he kinda sent her a text in a more cinematic way. That's all, and I don't know what else could be done here.
Having dealt with my husband cheating on me, I wish that my husband had considered doing Gottmans 3 steps instead of ghosting me for two years and giving up. Emma, as an actress, portrayed that so well. It was heart wrenching to watch.
In an interview she said she was tapping into her own experience of betrayal with her ex husband, Kenneth Branagh, when she found out about his affair with Helena Bonham-Carter.
My ex cheated on me with his ex, came clean, I forgave him after he assured me he still wanted to be with me... and then he dumped me anyway three months later. 🙃
@@thornwilde4579 well been there. Caught him sexting his ex, he begged for hours (6-8 to be exact), I forgave him and 2.5 months later same thing. Sadly when we don't look for the answer inside of us it's almost a guarantee that it'll happen again. There's a video of Mended light that talks about cheaters, in there Jonathan says that cheaters are lonely, sad people that don't love themselves. Like a bucket with a hole, no matter how much love you pour in it, it will never be enough so they bring more people into the equation and it's the same result. Let's hope the channel (Mended light) gets restored soon, there are some beautiful insights in there that can help you. I just broke up with him last week so we need more counseling hehe.
When I first watched this movie I thought that Mark was crushing on Peter during the wedding and pining over the fact that he could never reveal his true feelings for his best friend. This would have been a much more interesting story IMHO.
I just realized that when Alan and John speak together it labels them as "Internet Dads" and that is just so wholesome. I Actually, Love you both. Thank you for all your advice it has helped me in all of my relationships and I think of John's advice often navigating my first year of marriage.
PLEASE STOP. Give me a friggin break. The internet is NOT A REAL PLACE. If you are going to the internet to seek, truth, help with relationships, friendships, advice or porn, you are making a TERRIBLE MISTAKE. INTERNET DADS???
@@hmicky-mickey The "Internet Dads" label was in the closed captions. Also.. I'll point out that the internet is full of real people with real feelings, such as the commenter as well as the makers of this video. You don't have to agree with them, or share their feelings, but that doesn't change the fact that they are real people on the other side of the screen.
@@orchidcolors My friend, you are confused about what "connection" "verisimilitude" and "reality" are. Social media is NOT community. The internet is, at best, a SIMULATION. You conflate networking with connection. You conflate attention with care. Yes, there are mostly HUMANS behind the keyboard (mostly), but the internet is NOT human, nor does it represent humanity. This may be too philosophical for you, but it is also a concrete fact that it DOES NOT represent the complexities of a REAL HUMAN PERSON IN REAL LIFE. And it reduces our complexity to see the person behind the message (BOTS, lies, deception, etc. all go without saying). And because of everything that I just mentioned, the internet is not only a very dangerous, caustic tool, it is also responsible for destroying real connections and communication that take place in the REAL WORLD. And, my friend, I'm just getting started.
Daniel and Sam's relationship is one of the only reasons I watch this movie. It's a fantastic relationship that perfectly conveys how parents should treat their kids
I'm not gonna lie, halfway through this video I started writing down notes as if I was at a lecture. So much insight and so useful for writing relationships! 😍 Thank you!
Headcanon, Joanna's favourite film was Titanic, and watched it to the point of irritation for her boys, and now it's a real source of comfort (and in Daniels case, terrible irony) and something for them to bond over.
When Sam was staying in his room and Dan was worrying if the boy was taking drugs, Sam actually was watching love movies trying to figure out how love works. And the Titanic was the center piece in his "research". The scene when Daniel discovers Sam's room with walls covered in romantic movie posters was deleted from final version
Love Actually was my first introduction to Bill Nighy, and he has been one of my favourite actors ever since. Even though my feelings about this movie are mixed, I will forever be grateful it jumpstarted Bill Nighy's mainstream career.
I actually like the Colin arc, because it is so outlandish and ridiculous for his insane plan to actually work, that it's just funny as hell. It may just all be happening in his head, and suddenly (after the credits roll), he wakes up and realizes his America trip was all a dream.
@@mariehernandez5878 I thought he'd wake up, and he'd find out that the girls had robbed him, clothes and all. Imagine THIS later scene: him, on the phone with his best friend and sitting on the edge of the hotel bed, curled up and naked. (6/20/2024)
I'm not a romantic comedy fan by nature. I had to watch this movie for an Intro to Film course in university, and I fell in love with it...actually lol I particularly find the Billy Mack and Joe relationship wholesome. We had to write a paper about three different relationships in the movie and how the film conveyed them, and one of the ones I picked was that one. The T.A. actually took marks off because they said that one didn't count and I am STILL SALTY ABOUT IT. PLATONIC LOVE IS VALID! I also find it fascinating that you put Jamie and Aurelia so high, since I know that's often one people point at in this movie and say "ooo, that's just infatuation", usually because of the language barrier. I appreciate your take on it, though.
You are absolutely correct. The movie is called Love Actually. It doesn't mean 'Romantic Love Actually is The Only Kind of Love There Is'. If that was the case the Billy Mack and Joe storyline wouldn't have been part of the movie. I thought that it was lovely. Your TA was completely wrong. 😊
Billy Mack and Joe is philos, or the brotherly love, which Plato as an Athenian could/would never separate from sexual love. Maybe, Aristophanes could. And your TA needs to grow up (or you didn't explain it well enough, in which case the marks did need to be lowered).
One thing that I love about Daniel and Sam relationship is how when he first talk about him being in love Daniel asked him “she or he?”, not making assumptions on the gender. It was so ahead of his time xx
@@Rugelacharugula For 2003 that was very out of the ordinary. People still shame non straight relationships today, so 20 years ago is quite impressive
I am so glad you did this. This movie kind of drove me nuts, because I have the same reaction - I'm really tired of the assumption that infatuation equals love. It DOESN'T! It's fun, it's an incredible chemical high, but it has very little to do with actual love. Also, everyone is INCREDIBLY attractive (especially the women, as usual), so, much of the movie is really only about sexual attraction. Confused, as usual, with love. Insert sigh of irritation here. But (my third edit) I have to agree, the Emma Thompson/Alan Rykman storyline and acting is great. Two excellent actors!
I agree with you too. I don't get the appeal of this movie like so many others do. It's possible that my 1st watch of it came at a time where I was going through a breakup so Emma Thompson's pain was so palpable and Alan Rickman's reaction felt equally honest that it infuriated me.
@@craftygirl9666 you know, I went back and watched it again after seeing this video, and I didn't hate it. But I still find it problematic in a lot of places. However, you're absolutely right, Emma Thompson's work here is absolutely the best of the film, by miles. And it's hard to watch.
Just my opinion, but Richard Curtis need to continually thank the executives and editors who got him to cut those scenes. His work today isn’t nearly as good because nobody is willing to tell him “no,” and reel in his worst tendencies.
I found the Love Actually infatuation with the best friend's young wife so creepy. He's never even spoken to her and they have zero in common, but he's obsessed with her looks and uses her wedding as an excuse to film her so he can gratify himself later when he watches the videos. He seems more sexually excited by her being forbidden and unavailable (married to his best friend) than he is with her as a person.
I have not seen the movie in a while, but I doubt he never had spoken to his bf’s girlfriend. And his friend would also realistically talk of her a lot.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 I also didn't see it in a long time but if I remember correctly one of the reasons why she is so surprised when she discovers his feeling is because (as she says) he never talked to her, avoided her...
Who says that he only likes her looks? He might have not talked to her too much in order to disguise his feelings, but he probably knew her through what his best friend told him about her and what he had observed. I don't find that creepy! I find that is sad and unfortunate for the person who fell in love with someone that they know they shouldn't.
So I had a great aunt who lived in France and she married my great uncle who spoke English when they barely understood each other . Her advice was “you don’t always need words”. They were married for like 50 years until he died . She loved him until she died . It is possible ❤
I love a somehow similar relationship in "Call the Midwive" (the very fist episode) with an English-Spanish family with 24 kids and husband and wive still not knowing the other language. They managed fine! :)
My husband still maintains that as soon as he saw me he thought I will be his wife one day. It took another year and half for this to come true, but we’ve been married for 27 years and raised 5 kids. Granted he spoke my language and I spoke his at the time,but CF didn’t kiss Aurelia back when she did, he wanted on to learn her language before coming back to propose. Plus he is so channeling a 1986 mr Darcy, so everyone, plz, shut up about how toxic this particular relationship is, it is perfect!
Two people that I loved very much were confronted with the problem of an affair in their marriage. The marriage survived. I believe it did because they loved each other enough to go to couples therapy and they did all three of these things. Both passed away a decade ago but from them, I learned what love can be. I never realized how much they helped me until this video review. Thank you.
i LITERALLY just went back to find this original video yesterday, because i had just watched love actually and needed to know your opinions lmao, how weird!
Actually really nice to watch a video with two chaps analysing a romcom, taking it seriously and offering solid insights. Thank you! I really enjoyed this video!
The movie to me never really was about showing just "in love" relationships but in fact is highlighting various types of 'love', from broken love of infidelity in a long-term marriage to unreciprocated infatuation, to lust/sexual relationships, to friendship, to love between a father and son. Plus then within all these stories about these types of love they have their own micro examples of 'love' such as Liam Neeson as the father mourning the loss of his wife, loss of love, but the main story centers on the bond-building between father and son. I also think it's a shame to not mention part of why Sarah's sexual/crush love does not work out is because of the unhealthy balance she places on loving her brother that needs extra care and sometimes is even violent towards her. It is this idea that is echoed in the pop song, "Love is All Around" that the interconnectivity of the stories helps to show that whether it is healthy or unhealthy we are surrounded and encompassed by 'love'.
I really appreciated your mention of Sarah and her brother. I was also hoping it would be among the relationships analyzed in this list. Just so many relationships of so very many different kinds in this film. And I love the cut scenes where we witness additional fascinating and complex interpersonal stories.
Belated reply, but I love that the pop star and his manager decide to spend an evening in platonic love, enjoying each other and being companionable. My friend relationships are extremely important to me and always have been, even when I was married. I’m happily single with mutually respectful “lust” relationships for years now, and my bff who I love (non-romantically) almost unconditionally is actually engaged with a wonderful woman who is amazing. He still prioritizes our friendship (not to the detriment of his relationship) and I always did the same in my marriage. Friebds are important. We usually hang out once a week, and we live an hour apart. His gf is super cool with it because it makes him happy, and I would never (and he absolutely wouldn’t) compromise their lives together. I think we forget how important non-romantic relationships/ friendships are what with all the rom coms etc. that’s part of why I still love this movie.
The thing that really moved me about Emma Thompson's acting as Karen, is that she used the feelings she'd had from finding out Kenneth Branagh & Helena Bonham Carter had an affair while Kenneth & Emma were married (Kenneth & Helena met on the set of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein) to portray Karen as feeling how Emma feels. Fine acting from Emma Thompson & Alan Rickman.
Hey guys. As a portuguese who really works to learn more English, I think your coment about Jamie and Aurélia was very sweet. The atress Lúcia Moniz is very famous in Portugal. They're story line is my favorite. Is comic Jamie is speaking broken portuguese (with a similar brazilian accent ) is hilarious and sweet. Thank you guys for the apreciation of our language. Adoro-vos. Obrigada 🇵🇹❤️🇺🇲☺️
If I were Juliet, I would lie to my husband, thinking of a surprise from his best friend to him. As soon as I realized it wasn’t that, I should be mad at him!
Thank you for this video. Growing up watching a ton of these romantic movies, it is perfect to hear, that most of these relationships are not healthy and this isn't "normal". It gives you a distorted look on what romance and love are supposed to be like and try to chase it in everday life, only to fall down, face first. One reason why I love, when there is no happy ending, but a realistic - it is just not meant to be and it is okay.
I watched "Love actually" a long time ago and seeing this (or rewatching things) made me realize that some movies or Tv shows are not healthy as we thought before. We really don't think we just watch but theeen...
Watching 'unhealthy things' isn't necessarily bad. You don't leave 'Oedipus Rex' with the urge to commit incest and patricide, although you could argue that Oedipus did have his comeuppance in the end, unlike some British boys in Love Actually. But that's why you're not born yesterday. You take the time to think: "Does this result seem fair? Would this be the consequences that I or others would want?" No answer is perfect, but whatever answer you give is where you are.
@@thewatcherinthecloud indeed...but that wasn't really my point, i will continue to watch movies and many things, bad or good. It's just the thought after, when I re watch i wasn't thinking about that before, when I grow-up to understand more things
@@ff2154 I mean being uncomfortable with nude scenes isn't really flaw of the movie. Scenes are done in pretty comedic way. Character not being good person doesn't mean he isn't good character, especially with allan rickman who is great boss caring about his employees and family just stupid to get seduced. He isn't black and white. Complex characters tend to be best.
To all those who wondered what happened to these characters, "Red Nose Day" in Britain, a charity to end childhood poverty, encourages participation through comedy and donations. They filmed a sequel to "Love, Actually" and it's available on RUclips. Another year they did one based on "Four Weddings and a Funeral". Original cast participation, and they are fun to watch.
I always thought that the joke for the "plumpy" character was that she wasn't fat at all. So everyone keeps calling someone who fits the mold for a societally accepted body but is still called fat because beauty standards suck. I really loved the video 😀
Nah, this was the time for the "anorexia chique" body beauty standard. It's gross but you saw lots of non-fat bodies being shamed for being fat, which is shitty for two reasons.
I agree with you, Anne. But people were very rude about the actor in comparison with the waif look of the time, so I think it's a deliberate middle finger to society.
I watch cinema therapy as soon as it comes out. I usually watch RUclips on my phone. But I always put this on my big screen tv. Lots of love for you all and your families
I loved this video! There is actually a sequel short film they released for Red Nose Day that shows us where are most of the relationships in the first movie. They unhealthy ones get a somewhat satisfying ending, I think its worth checking out! Happy Holidays!
I love you guys being so accurate and thoughtful about these ridiculous relationships. I’ve actually never heard a man talk like this before. Not trying to put down the male sex or anything. I just love hearing some intelligent conversation and not just thinking it’s all about sex.
I wouldn't actually say it treats infatuation as love, I would say it accepts the characters' definitions of love. That said, the even creepier thing about Juliet and her husband's best friend is that he has been so obsessed with her and not letting it show that she thought he hated her. He is so jealous he can't even treat her with reasonable courtesy for his best friend's sake. And then he makes a spank bank video of her at her wedding and then does the creepy signboard thing. And for being a complete stalker he gets rewarded with a kiss. I have always thought she should either go inside and tell her husband immediately or give the best friend a kiss on the cheek, tell him she'd flattered, but she loves her husband, then go inside and tell him everything.
@cassandra I really love this movie, and have watched it, oh I don’t know, 6-7 times maybe? And I know, knew it even the first time, that the way “love” and/or “being in love” are portrayed here is pretty superficial, and pretty unrealistic. It just doesn’t *feel* right. That doesn’t take away from the romantic glow of the movie, which is what makes for a good movie. I know very well that it doesn’t work in reality, and still I love it. Where I’m not completely in agreement is with how you view the Juliet-husband-hubbie’s best friend dynamic. The way I see it being portrayed (and I’m as subjective as can be …), I don’t see any sense of jealousy on his part. His keeping his distance is purely out of what he himself calls “self-preservation”. I really get that, I can very well imagine myself doing the same thing in a similar situation. The signboards thing, slightly over the top (well, completely over the top 😅), but it’s a romantic movie, so it’s par for the course, we all get that it doesn’t happen in real life. The kiss, somewhat problematic, though I’ve always felt it as a kind gesture. I don’t see any romance in it. Though obviously there’s gonna be an afterwards in reality. But the movie doesn’t deal in “afterwardses” or consequences in any real sense. Apart from the Alan Rickman & Emma Thompson relationship. Just my take on this, I don’t pretend to be “right”, or that you’re “wrong” in any way 😊
Is that how you see it? He says it straight out, it's there in the writing: She says "I thought you didn't like me, you're never nice to me", and he says "it's self preservation". He can't control how he feels, but he does his utmost to keep his distance to not be crushed by it. That's why he avoids her and puts up an ice front to keep her away. Not because he's "so obsessed with not letting it show".
I always take time before I fall for someone. I can't deal with all that "there has to be a spark right away" and "you need to know from the start if you're compatible in bed" that everyone keeps telling me, because for me it is just a lot of anxiety and stress, meeting someone new, and I do need to get to know them before I can tell if there is even a chance for a relationship. A lot of guys I met couldn't handle it and wanted to do "stuff" right away, so I've always felt like there's something wrong with me.. Thank you for reasurring me I'm not in the wrongs.
I appreciate finding this channel. I hope anyone writing or working production on movies finds it and doesn't think someone HAS to be a therapist to notice these things. We all do subconsciously, even though we might not want to, or are unable to explain it as eloquently as done here. It's the reason so many of us just end us saying, "That movie sucked!" and hoping the next one on the to-watch-list is written by someone with an education, a brain and real-life experience...
I like that "reasons" for why people have affairs were given but he wrapped it up by saying that ultimately it's a lack of integrity. Like, yes, we should understand what the cheater is going through but it is still wrong and they should take responsibility. I have always felt like the devil's advocate when it comes to love stuff because I want to understand both sides so I think I'm stealing this from you lol
I agree 100% with this rating. Sam and Daniel are my favorite parts of the movie. The fact that Daniel is his step dad is even more heartwarming. And the Red Nose continued story is so beautiful.
I remember being so excited to watch love actually in theaters when I was 16, and then feeling massively depressed for at least 3 days after. Hated it. Hated how it made me realize how selfish people can be.
A few years ago,the charity event Comic Relief,produced a sequel called “Red-nose day actually”.It shows through different segments what happened to some of the couples from then to now.Juliet and Peter are still married,Mark has gotten over Juliet and reveals to her that he’s found someone else.David is still prime minister (well just returned as) and is married to Natalie,who is no longer working for him. Jamie and Aurelia are living in England with three kids.They are helping eachother learn their languages,Aurelia is shown to be more fluent in English,whilst Jamie…well.Billy is still making music,but sadly Joe has passed due to a heart attack.Sam has grown up and moved to America,but comes back to visit Daniel and reveals his engagement to Joanna (the girl from the movie,who also came). An American version was produced with an extra scene,showing that Sarah had married actor Patrick Dempsey.
13:38 - I always thought Sarah‘s love story in the movie was more about her relationship with her brother. It’s a relationship I kept expecting you to bring up… Otherwise I agree with the order. Thanks for this video.
I think it's a terrible stigmatising message that if she loves her brother, she has to give up on her own wants and needs. As a mental health professional its diappointikg as it paints the brother as just a terrible burden, albeit one who is deeply loved by her.
Yeah that’s how I felt when I first watched it. It was heartbreaking because they both understood that she’s not currently emotionally available and that’s so hurtfully mature
@helendonovan7984 honestly tho that's how it is sometimes. My brother has autism and when I left for university I would get calls at all times for me to calm him down.
Really amazing synchronicity in my life: my daughter is applying to colleges and has decided she may be interested in going into filmmaking. And she also just told me the other day that she hates the movie, love actually. I sent her the link to your video with the following message: I came across this and it’s really pretty spot on. I watched it through because you recently told me you hate the movie love actually. This is a mixture of film critique and psychological evaluation of the plot and the characters. It’s the kind of assessment of storytelling that is very valuable in the sense of learning about human behavior, and looking at filmmaking thoughtfully.
Merry Christmas to you all 🎄Definitely my favourite Christmas movie. The fact that Emma Thompson’s acting feels so real is because she was really going through the same thing at the time the movie was made
That scene made me promise myself never to cheat on a partner. I mean, I'd never intended to do so, but her reaction really put me in the shoes of someone suffering that type of betrayal.
It’s also a perfect portrayal of the psychiatrist Daniel Bem’s theory of self perception. He realizes he’s acting the way an in love person does, and in turn realizes he must be in love.
A perfect critique. The cast are amazing and the music is first grade. Attitudes are changing, but Love Actually remains a warm, solid, room-com; thanks for bringing it back to my attention in such an entertaining way.
It's really interesting hearing your perspectives on Love Actually. Overall, I agree with most of your decisions completely. The only one I don't agree with is Sarah but for a completely different reason. I thought the movie was actually trying to show that Sarah was in love with the idea of Karl, but that isn't the real love in her life. She gets swept away with her fantasy & when she tries to be intimate with him, her brother calls, bringing her back to reality. Being a caretaker is really, really hard & has a real cost, but her brother needs her. The love she has for her brother & how much he needs her is real. Too real for Karl - that's why they didn't work. He wanted something easy & Sarah's life isn't easy.
I would have liked to hear your thoughts on the relationship between Sarah and her brother, and also the friendship between Emma Thompson’s character and Liam Neeson’s one as she supports him as he grieves. Those are also loving relationships, one definitely with unhealthy boundaries and the other showing a loving friendship.
Again, really appreciate including non-romantic and non-sexual relationships in this list
Friends bonds and family bonds are as important as sexual/romantic ones
@@SieMiezekatze Depends on your family/friends but overall true
Ironically (or maybe not?) as an asexual #2 has always been my favorite couple.
In the same vein Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling in Crazy, Stupid, Love is also one of my favorite love stories.
@@fightingfaerie as a fellow ace, I very much appreciate #2! But it's also just nice to see relationships talked about in a broader more encompassing scale
@@SieMiezekatze Tis the definition of love, it's not about sucking faces and clowning around in your birthday suit.
One other detail I noticed was that Karen is dressed to coordinate with the gold necklace, she's wearing a red sweater to catch the red in the necklace, and small earrings that would allow a necklace to take center stage. She was so excited about receiving a necklace that she planned her outfit so the she could put it on right away to wear to the children's play, just makes the reveal that little bit more crushing.
Oh that just hit me so hard… ❤
Oh wow i have never noticed, ouch
Rickman and Thompson were the only good elements of the movie IM(H)O
Oh God... I can't watch this movie again. It's gonna hit harder
Wow, I didn’t even notice that! I watched the movie 9 times!
"Would you stay, knowing life would always be a little bit worse?"
That is so perfectly written and delivered. 10/10
Yep, and the line about making the life she leads foolish too always feels heart wrenching as Emma Thompson delivers it.
I loved that quote, some of the most down to earth line on that movie.
Actually made me cry in class while watching it😭
Emma Thompson in this movie is absolutely wonderful. All around.
@@schellingtongrin This! And the airport scene. "I'm fine. Fine."
"Lie to your husband."
Immediately followed by
"Christmas is about telling the truth."
I cannot stop thinking though: who said that?:)))
I've never heard something like that about Christmas.
And if you think, it is usually the time families comes together, and the relantionships may be so vastly different...
In more cases than not telling truths would just ruin Christmas for so many people, don't you think?))
@@alyonaf1054 Yeah, it really stood out to me when I was watching this how many variations there are of that phrase, and it's baffling--that is absolutely not a thing. No one thinks that a defining characteristic of Christmas is that it's a time for telling the truth. I feel like the screenwriter was just lazy and it was an easy way to move the plot forward--"Is it out of character for this person to behave this way? That's fine, just have them point out that it's Christmas!"
I will watch Keira Knightley standing and giggling for…hours but I HATE the “forbidden” “relationship” with Mark undermining his “best friend” in Love Actually and it’ has extremely creepy stalker ish and even racist undertones. Just UGH.
@@4Mr.Crowley2 it was a very distasteful scene indeed
@@4Mr.Crowley2 So, he should move to Georgia and join the local police force? Got to get ready for that Zombie/Walker Plague, after all.
And the "best friend" needs to get back to Wakanda
I love that Emma Thompson's character confronts her hubby so directly. So many times wives pretend not to know to save face or to avoid dealing with the pain which is understandable.
Yeah. Such a strong character. I think of myself as someone strong but god, if that happened to me I don’t think I could hold my shit together
I think most people that has happened to, they kinda just shit off yk? Me personally, when I got cheated on. I remember just sitting down with a drink in my hand, frozen. Being like "what the fuck is happening?". To go further, I put my pain aside afterwards, (because me and my ex were still together) I tried to talk but bottling shit up made it worse. A key component to love, is sustainability and freedom.. Not sadness and repression.
Without a doubt, Emma is the start of the show
And she doesn't attack him. She just poses it as a "What would the best course of action be?" and lets him know that she knows, and she just wants to know what he thinks.
Makes me cry every time.
In an age of hook-up culture, it is refreshing to hear two men discuss what it means to initiate and sustain a healthy relationship. Well done.
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This movie while charming is full of male misogyny with old men chasing hot young women half their age. The other part is just about feeding your hedonistic side with loose American women.
@@parvizdeamerit does my heart so much good to hear these young men describe misogyny as gross!!!!
@@dougspidermanhappyi mean, they are married and in their 40s
Agree, movies and series has ruined my lovelife..its just been lust, and Im 40 now😢
What's always struck me as extra tragic with Emma Thompson's storyline is that - had she not seen the necklace - she would have loved the gift she received. It was absolutely something he put thought into, more thought than she was used to him putting into gifts, and it would have been a perfect moment that he ruined with the irony of a gift he didn't think through at all.
I was thinking that this time around as well.
I have seen people pointing out that if she's a big Joni Mitchell fan she probably has that album already, however. It's like getting an Abbey Road CD for a Beatles superfan.
@@apenguinnamedabraham 100% - I mean at the time of the film I was going through a huge Joni phase (lifelong) and I totally was like ‘she’ll already have that, you great cretin!!’
Truly sad
@@apenguinnamedabraham True, but it also depends. I have things that I have several copies of because they're *slightly* different. Maybe it's different cover art, or maybe this has one special track. Maybe it's a new release of a greatest hits album that, even though she has all those songs on other albums, this is the first time they're all on the same one. It's telling that she does go in right away to listen to it. That at this dark moment, she takes comfort from it even as it was also the cause of that pain.
The saddest part about Emma Thompson’s crying scene is that Emma told she drew from her own experience of betrayal. She was cheated by her husband - Kenneth Branagh - with Helena Bonham Carter. Heartbreaking.
I’m so disappointed in Helena.
@@ShintogaDeathAngel and Kenneth???????????????????????????????????????????????? He has more responsibility than she does!
@@nellieshoals if you know the person is married, it is equally wrong.
@@emhu2594 Not equal. He has more--she has some too, but it's not half.
@@emhu2594 Your marriage is your husband's and your responsibility, not that of anyone random the husband decides to cheat with on you...
This video at 20 would have saved me 10 lost years and 3 years in a hospital. Please let's start to educate teenagers on love & relationships. The quality of our relationships is one of the top factors of general health.
As much as I love Heartstopper, it pisses me off how many people are like "These are the beautiful experiences I missed out on because of homophobia".
Like, it's good that healthy LGBT+ relationships are being depicted on screen, but it doesn't change that most teen relationships are messy and toxic and nobody knows what they're doing
@@morbidsearch does that make them bad and unnecessary ?
@@morbidsearch Heartstopper is great exactly because it shows teenager what to do, examples of how they could communicate. Idk how old you are, but as a teen it definitely helped my friends a ton.
@@morbidsearch also sex education is a different thing - there are plenty of shows that show the toxic teen stuff. *and* Ben in heartstopper shows the toxic teen stuff as well!
I'm sorry you went through those years :(
I hope you're better now
As a brazilian I have to say that Colin Firth did speak poorly but still very cute. When someone makes the effort to speak your language even without knowing very well is very charming and sweet.
I always wished they'd made his Portuguese as bad as it is in the subtitles! They mistranslate him to such an extreme that it's almost distracting. That scene is so sweet.💜
I love Aurelia's reply about learning English - "Just in cases". So damn cute and it always makes me laugh.
These two are my personal favourite relationship in the film, I just think it’s very wholesome and genuine, and being Portuguese (bilingual Portuguese and English) I appreciate the hidden details put into what they say in their respective languages. And to go and learn eachother’s languages is so adorable and such a genuine gesture that says they want to be in eachother’s life in a real, committed way. (I did notice some mistranslation in the subtitles as well but whatever)
His Portuguese sounds more like Spanish than Portuguese to me. Brazilian kinda does too, but she's not supposed to be Brazilian.
This is why I hate my ex friend so much. Her boyfriend at the time actually started to learn her grandmother’s language in secret because SHE was learning it, and then after 4 years when he was about to propose to her IN THAT LANGUAGE she cheated on him
"Ultimately people have affairs because of a lack of integrity". Thank you for this. As someone who has been betrayed, for a long time all I could do was wonder what it was I had done wrong, what could I have done differently? Thank you for not blaming the victim and holding the cheater ultimately accountable.
I would say not always. People also have affairs when they’re been treated poorly.
One example I knew, he hit her, and she felt trapped because she had 3 sons.
A you tuber I listen to sometimes says people have affairs because they get bored.
And she says the boredom is because of routine.
She says once the couple sets up a life together, a routine emerges. The routine is boring for one person, and then he or she cheats.
@@lalizarde cheating instead of leaving the abusive relationship comes from a lack of integrity. Cheating on an abuser is also far more dangerous.
@@lalizardeThen leave, don’t cheat on him!
The children being ‘in love’ was inappropriate and creepy.
"Ultimately people have affairs because of lack of integrity." Thank you. I'm fed up with people who dodge being accountable, won't do the work of healing themselves and run rough shod throughout their lives hurting others and never apologizing.
Daniel and Sam’s relationship is possibly the most beautiful parent/child relationship in any movie or TV show I’ve ever seen.
It is lovely ... but I recommend Olive's parents in Easy A for candidates of beautiful parent/child relationships
Even that was creepy.
Telling your kid that you want to bang a chick in every room of the house including his (the child's) room is hella inappropriate.
@@RichardCarlosTorr omg yes! I was so jealous of their family dynamic
I have always loved the mother and son relationship in The Sixth Sense
I had my first romantic relationship at 14 years old with a 17 year old guy I met online. I told my parents and they both said that they are not sure if this is the best thing for me, but that it is my decision and they’ll support me all the way.
That is what saved me because it was an emotionally abusive relationship and I was able to escape it because I knew I’d always have my parents’ support. They took me seriously and did not belittle me even though they could see from a mile away that this wasn’t going to turn out well.
Edit: You can Stop telling me my parents made the wrong choice, I am not going to change my mind.
well if they prohibited you to step into relationship at 14 you wouldn't be a an emotionally abusive relationship at all
@@aiva729 Except I still would have, just behind their backs and then I would have had no one to turn to when things got sour
@@hurbig ooh well then yes. I was just talking from my perspective cause I wouldn't
Thank you for saying this. What your parents did was probably the right thing, but it must have been SO hard, absolutely knowing it was doomed to be an unhealthy relationship but having to support and respect their daughter's ability to make decisions and watch it play out. I can't imagine the anxiety and grief they must have felt, knowing they had to let you make your own mistakes and just be there for you when it inevitably fell apart. It's so hard to let your child hurt. But really, that's the best thing to do for a teenager, because teens are wired to want to make their own way, and humans are remarkably bad at learning from another person's mistakes. They often need to make their own. I'm glad they were there for you, and I'm glad you got away from that relationship!
This is Hollywood. Not Britain. 'Fat' in this regard, refers to Hollywood's idea of body shape, hence the reference to chubby. 🙄
The sad part is that when you're young (generally teens, 20s) it's so easy to conflate a crush with actual love. It took me a long time to figure out that the excitement of a crush was just that, excitement. It can turn to love but mostly doesn't because you don't have a realistic view of the person you have a crush on. Most of these relationships in Love Actually were a crush. I found that when I wrote down my relationship goals it was definitely about shared values and goals. When I met someone that I had amazing chemistry with, that also shared the same values and goals it was a wrap. We both knew very quickly that it was a match. We've been married and in love for 15 years. We've had so many challenges and our relationship has just gotten stronger.
Yeah 100% I used to love this movie years ago and now I’m in my 30’s and just watched it and felt like the movie should be called infatuation actually
Agreed. My first husband was crush. Crush crush crush. And a REALLY bad idea.
My second husband... together still 10 years later, still crushing, still head over heels, still truly madly deeply in love... this is love.
Yup- lust from older men onto younger women.
The way i see love is like you said, the thrill. The excitement. But there has to be a reason to stay. I think of it as love as well. The kind where you stop looking and you keep it with you. The feeling may or may not last so build it on more than just that. We want to be happy so we should surround ourselves with such people, platonically or romantically.
"Love is respect" no matter what kind of relationship it is.
Emma and Alan are acting perfection. Best relationship in this film? Emma and Liam Neeson, I love that they show a healthy male-female friendship
That's a great point!
I didn’t know until just now that Alan Rickman died 7 years ago, in 2016, at age 69. What a bummer - he was in so many amazing movies, and was wonderful in all of them.
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He was a wonderful person too, if you look into that. He was my favorite actor, so much so that people from high school sent me condolences 😅
So aggravating that everybody currently can’t have ANY relationship without “so you’re banging? Because friendship isn’t a thing anymore and you can’t be close unless you’re gay, or you ARE gay for being TOO close with your guy friends”
Weren't Emma and Liam siblings in that movie?
This is why my favourite fiction trope is best friends to lovers - when the two main characters already have established a lasting connection, know each other super well, know the good and the bad, because nobody was trying to impress the other with only the best parts of themselves, and now they feel like a romantic element is naturally starting to entwine into the relationship? That's the best possible foundation for a great and happy relationship imo
Even just watching these clips of those Emma Thompson scenes rips me to shreds. So relatable and realistic of a woman falling apart inside but keeping it together on the outside for the sake of her kids or other people around her. 💔
Jamie & Aurelia - "I learned just in cases," is one of my favorite lines in any movie.
That line is adorable!
Yeah Emma Thompson was cheated on by her husband Kenneth Branagh
Colin Firth learned Italian for his real life wife. Funny parallel.
I cry every year when Emma discovers her Christmas present is not a beautiful piece of carefully chosen jewlery (which she knows he bought), she goes upstairs and cries.
I say, "Just in cases," now, as it enchants me so much. Thank-you for mentioning it😊
Mark isn’t saying he will love Juliet until she is super old. He’s saying he will love her until the zombie apocalypse, which will happen relatively soon.
;)
I dunno.
Just like Ed Sheeran. What, he’s going to dump her when he’s 70?
Hahahahaha omg the walking dead joke hit me really strong 🤣
Yes!! He's going to change his name even😂
😂😂😂
I know this is called a video ranking "romances", but since you included the stepfather/stepson I think its important to point out that this movie clearly intends to be about all kinds of love, not just romance. When the voiceover talks about "love being all around", in the airport scene, it is showing all sorts of love, not just romantic love. And we see this in the movie in Very Strong relationships not mentioned here- the relationship of Sarah and her brother, the relationship between Emma Thompson and her children, and also especially the strong friendships and familial connections between MANY of the characters in the movie which create a throughline for the whole film- which is ultimately a web of connection, a giant web of love.
I am surprised the relationship the woman has preferred to the coworker she has been infatuated with - the relationship with the brother - was not ranked
I think that this is what the Billy mack arc was. It wasn't homosexual. It was a best friend situation. Totally not gay.
I too love that in the Number 1 relationship the stepdad puts aside his unresolved grieving to help his stepson navigate through the agony of being in love. Brilliant, touching writing! Yes, this is my favorite love story, tying with the son and the little girl's "love" storyline.
Merry Christmas to all who are loved and want to be loved! ❤️❤️❤️
Precisely, I love that aspect of the story, and how Daniel and Sam's relationship gets stronger as the movie progresses. Daniel always listens to Sam, and never entirely shuts down his ideas, offers advice.
I interpreted it as he grieves but in a different way where he celebrates the love he shared with his wife in helping his step-son explore his feelings around love as well as his intentions. As a way to honor his wife, he shows their son how to show romantic love to another person, and thereby showing him familial love.
And as a result as we see toward the end of the movie, he finds himself open to the idea of loving someone again. Perhaps not pursuing it immediately, but he’s not avoidant of it.
@@Sharkwizard As a writer, I'm speaking from the show-not-tell aspect. The scene where Daniel's silently grieving at his desk while gazing at his wife's photo, only to quietly put the picture aside when Sam enters the room, shows how much he loves the boy. This action shows that although still grieving, Daniel loves Sam so much that he willingly puts aside that grief (i.e. the photo) to focus a more upbeat attention on Sam.
I watched the movie for the first time last Christmas and I was so bored. The only part of the movie I was actually interested in was Daniel and Sam.
in the sequel, Sam is an adult, and they are sitting on a park bench and Sam tells Daniel he's in love and Daniel says something like "oh not again" or "here we go again" (I forget the exact words)and Claudia Schiffer is not present
I love the scene with Thompson and Rickman. She chose her method of dealing with it which would both satisfy her dignity and also probably make him feel so much worse than yelling at him.
are you assuming that her objective was to make him feel bad? Rather than, say, actually work out why this happened and what they both wanted to do about it?
@@rachelsnee8926just came across this. Following the comment made by the relationship therapist I think its pretty darn clear and expected that the one who was betrayed would want to get the anger out of their system
I don't think she chose her method. Why would she choose to confront him at a public event for their children? I think this was a woman who just couldn't hold it in anymore.
@rachelsnee8926 If you'd been cheated on, wouldn't you want to make him feel bad, at least just a little?
I actually think the film is a very clever and in-depth look at love in all its varied forms. Some cute and innocent, some weary and heartbreaking, some frivolous, some fake as hell, some adorable, some hellish, some creepy. It’s not about all those relationships ACTUALLY being LOVE (see what I did there lol), it’s about what different people THINK love is. People are weird and twisted and sick and perverted and innocent and naive and adorable, so that’s what love is too…
It’s cleverly done and one of my favourite Xmas films. Emma Thompson’s character gets me every single time. That lonely heartbreak is beautifully done.
I agree. I thought it was meant to be various dimensions of love. I never tire of watching it. I like how they referred to Alan and Emma as the greatest actors on the planet, because they are two of my very favorite.
Hear, hear!!!
Totally agree, I think it's highlighting the reality of what people go through or are doing everyday in relationships (whether it's the right way or wrong way). I also think there'sbeen some misunderstanding based on the tongue in cheek comments that we Brits are well known for!
I think that's an excellent point to keep in mind. The reviewers here seemed to indicate some tacit endorsement from the filmmakers of some of the more unhealthy relationships, I don't think that's actually the case at all. I think they are trying to tell a more profound story here where they are exposing the types of love, rather than endorsing them.
Even as a kid watching this film I always had a sense of what "good" love in this film was and what the "bad" love was. And maybe this wasn't the intent of the film at all, but I always felt it portrayed all the love we're blessed with and all the love that we suffer from.
I agree entirely!
@@littlefox7694 Ditto, I always felt a compare & contrast vibe from the relationships in this movie.
I think that's a different perspective than the reviewers in this video took, however I think you're on to something. If this was truly trying to just show healthy relationships, it wouldn't have shown cheating, so the fact that it shows some of the other unhealthy relationships doesn't necessarily mean it is an endorsement of them, as much as just showing a variety of types of love. Now do we need to draw a hard line between lust and love? Maybe we should, but I think it's also fair to say that we don't always, and this movie shows that as well.
On the whole, if you think of this less in terms of idealizing the different types of love, and more in terms of showing such a large variety, the movie becomes a different, and possibly more profound, form of art again.
You brought up asexuality during your talk about how sex isn't a good start to a relationship, and I'm ace, and it made me feel accepted. Thank you.
I know one relationship that is basically
"We're stranger to each other, that was one night stand but it was great. If we ever need it and are down for it, let exchange number to hook up"
Which isn't even a relationship, they're just acquaintance with an agreement
Fellow ace here, I love them so much for including us and normalizing that some people are asexual, it is a thing, no big deal.
Yes, Thank You So Much.
Yes! I'm demi and it was nice to hear that wanting to get to know the person on an intellectual level first is not abnormal but actually makes a lot of sense when you want something that lasts. I always feel pressured to have sex right away :/
@@kimreni I think I'm demi, too...I don't even know how to explain to someone that I'm interested in a relationship, but the intimacy has to wait.
I would have loved to hear you speak about Sarah's love for her brother - the love she eventually sacrifices her infatuation for.
As a single dad who doesn't feel like I have the time or energy for romantic love, I wanna thank you guys for including non-romantic relatioships. And also tell you that I started crying at "and the next one, and the next one".
There's a movie I saw once where a single dad needed to find true love for "magic rules reasons" and after all the dates fail it turns out the love for his kids was the true love all along
What makes Emma Thompson's acting in that necklace scene more sad and believable is that (I believe) she was using her own pure feelings from her then recent divorce which was very similar to that scene/story. I've always loved Thompson, she is a great actress, and this knowledge of her personal life made that scene even more painful. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I came here to mention that. The response to her husband's infidelity is so very real
How in the hell can you willingly cheat on that woman? Some people get the gold and throw it in the garbage
@@AA-cf4es entitlement, pure and simple.
@@AA-cf4es I know: like Colin Firth's now ex-wife, who cheated on him after 20 years of marriage.
I always thought Sarah’s “love” story was not about hot young office guy, but rather about the love she feels for her brother in the institution, and the sacrifices she makes for that love.
I have to say, Emma Thompson could have easily played Princess Diana at some point. She is so good at what she does and the emotion on her face and in her voice, I felt it
THIS! I thought the same thing the first time I watched this movie. Emma or Natasha Richardson would have been perfect Diana’s
Thompson could have been an amazing Camilla
@@Lavenderandsage I thought the same thing about Natasha, when I first saw "The Parent Trap", as a kid. Their hair cuts were nearly identical. As for Emma, I feel like Diana would've absolutely ADORED this movie, especially her performance, had she been around to see it. (6/20/2024)
That the two porn set lighting stand ins have the healthiest romantic relationship is both really funny, genuinely cute cause of their actual interactions, and incredibly ironic compared to certain other characters from this movie (Colin and Mark, I’m looking at you)
I find it very realistic tbh. It’s a job that requires having clear boundaries and being very aware of and careful about consent, as well as very attentive to your workmate to make the bodies look natural on camera.
@@halane4790 well yeah, I mean that makes sense. I was just talking about how it’s very (comically) ironic in context of the movie, which I have no doubt was intentional
@@Overseer2579 it was! I was just adding, it's both funny and realistic!
They're not porn stand ins! Everyone makes this mistake - they're body doubles for a mainstream big budget hollywood film! Who ever heard of a porn body double? Martin Freeman's character makes reference to having once doubled for Brad Pitt on Seven Years in Tibet. They just happen to be doing a sex scene.
@@theepicosityofpizza Exactly. The very idea of porn stand-ins is ridiculous. Porn is too low-budget and fast paced for that sort of frivolity.
I love Bill and Joe. I'm aromantic and the inclusion of a found family from friends and acquaintances feels super ahead of its time.
@Alex-yl8dz And the air-guitar moves, as Billy explains himself, are GOLDEN. (6/20/2024)
This channel has grown so much. Started with just around 100k and now is 1.2m, I'm so happy to see this beloved channel grow ^^
The channel actually started with 0 subs
Awesome
@@captnbluehat I think they're saying they subscribed when the channel was at 100k subs. So they got to see it grow from there.
@@Hollycb12 Yep, I stumbled on this channel when it was still around 100k. So surreal that it's now 1.2m
"if you're establishing a sexual relationship, definitely do it with Rodrigo Santoro" 😆😄 spot on! 😆
Plan on being a 10, though. If you are short and chubby, you will need to keep fantasizing!
I love is Rowen Atkinson's character. It's almost like super naturallly there to make Harry's necklace purchase harder and Sam's airport run easier. 😊 Wonder if they thought to have him interact with all of the couples but kept it out for run time.
Wasn't there a dropped idea in the script that he was actually supposed to be an angel making it hard on purpose so he would make up his mind/get caught right there
I have a once a year debate as to whether he is doing it all deliberately or not (I'm definitely on the yes side)
@@SemiramisAudronI definitely got Godlike vibes from his character. 😆
I believe it was posted somewhere that the original character for Rowan was a guardian angel, and had scenes with each couple where he helps ‘guide’ them. But was cut for time
@@JessemyBeadleLast Christmas, when ABC aired a reunion special about the film's anniversary, it was revealed that Rowan's eccentric gift-wrapper routing wasn't entirely scripted. They were filming that scene really early in the morning, and he decided to get a bit mischievous and deliberately antagonize Alan Rickman. (6/20/2024)
One thing about the Daniel/Sam relationship that struck a chord with me when I saw this was Daniel being open to the possibility that Sam could have been in love with a boy.
It's only a very brief moment, without fanfare or lampshading, but normalising and further emphasising his non-judgemental nature.
For all of the things in this film that haven't aged particularly well, that's something that I particularly liked especially considering this was released back in 2003.
Normalizing taboo children relationships is most definitely NOT good and it’s wrong
Sorry, that's twisted. A young child in a sexual relationship with an adult? This is what you took from their relationship? That is beyond disgraceful and I don't believe that the movie was suggesting it.
@@andywood5699 What the hell are you on about and how on earth does it relate in any way to my comment?
@@andywood5699 What are you talking about? No one mentioned or even referred to a sexual child/adult relationship!! How did you get that from what the original commenter posted?
@@ninjanibba4259 I can't tell if you have completely failed to understand my comment, or have other motivations. But my comment does not refer to any inappropriate relationships.
As a stepmom I thank you for pointing out this particular relationship. We are usually so maligned by storytelling than the few positive examples make my heart skip.
You’ll always have The Sound of Music. Though that’s a bit of an unrealistic expectation for a step-mom to live up to.
There's also O'Malley in The Aristocats. Granted, he's a stepfather, but so's Liam Neeson in this movie.
I think, the reason stepparents are so often shown as the evil ones is because they have the parent authority, without seeming doubly evil for mistreating their own flesh and blood.
I prefer my stepdad over my biological father every time, though, so I, too, am really happy about good and loving child-stepparent relationships.
Stepmoms and stepdads get done so dirty. Obviously in any sort of relationship there will be bad examples, but the vast majority of people I know who are in blended families have wonderful relationships with their step-parents. I've also known many people who, for various reasons, end up having a closer relationship with their step parent than with the parent they "replaced" (I know that no one parent figure replaces another, I just couldn't come up with a better way to word it clearly.)
My brother-in-law has two half siblings (they all have the same mom) but they all consider his biological dad to be their dad too. Everyone deserves to be happy, and I think that when a parent is in a good relationship it allows them to be a better parent to their kids, and if someone is marrying into the family I would think their love for their spouse would extend to the small humans they're raising.
It’s a testament to you and your love for your stepchild(ren) that such examples grip you so. Your family’s clearly very lucky to have you! Never forget that.
My wife and I had an amazing fix for the relationship between Peter, Juliet and Mark. If Mark actually had a crush on Peter. When Juliet sees the footage Mark filmed, it would just be close-ups of Peter. Mark and Juliet don't know each other but Mark and Peter have known each other for years. It would make a lot more sense for Mark to be in love with him.
consensual polyamory would also be a great fix for this situation.
@DangerRavioli Yeah, but Mark is completely in the dark. That's what makes that relationship so bad. And polyamory would remove a lot of the drama from the scenes in the movie. It would feel like too neat of a solution
These are all really bad "solutions".
@@sarahirwin1769 Elaborate
When I first saw the movie. I honestly thought that Mark was in love with his mate Peter. And was filming him the whole time.
"... ultimately people have affairs because of lack of integrity..."
Thank you!
so much.
I think the Jamie and Aurelia storyline can make sense despite the language barrier considering Jamie starts the movie with a big betrayal from people who lied to him, so then he falls for someone who technically can't lie, since she doesn't speak a language he understands.
It's just an idea.
Interesting
The first time I saw the movie was without subtitles, so I can say that even without knowing any portugese I totally bought that love story. In fact, when I saw it WITH subtitles I felt they actually made it LESS romantic!
It is one thing to be betrayed by your best friend over a woman like Mark with Peter over Juliet revealing his feelings for her behind his friend's back but being betrayed by your own BROTHER in the case of Jamie at the beginning of a film over a girl who feigns sickness in order to have sex with another man is a whole other level... Just terrible. In order to make amends, she'd just have to be a terribly great bitch who only wanted money and pleasure and the brother must have been too stupid and disillusioned with life to do that to his own brother...
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@@danieljosephbestguy5990 Mark didn't reveal his feelings, he only explained himself (kind of) after they were discovered.
This movie is one of the few that have ever made me cry. When Laura Linney’s character’s brother comes to light, I felt that. My brother is profoundly disabled and this is a very relatable moment for me. It’s rarely discussed, but should be.
Also, THIS CAST! THIS CAST!!
Collin Firth's story in this movie "actually" happened to him. He met the woman who would become his wife when neither could speak the other's language. But they knew immediately.
And they are divorced already unfortunately
Yes. They divorced after twenty-two years of marriage. Some details have been made public. My point was that their romance was used in the movie --- "Based on a true story".
@@modelnut617 Among actors, 22 years is almost forever.
I believe Livia spoke English before she met Colin. And yes, they were married for 22 years.
@@davidweihe6052 She had an affair while they were going through a trial separation and he couldn't get over it. There may have been other aggravating details, but I've forgotten them.
I feel like "Love, Actually" is a movie with not very good plots, but lovely separate scenes (perfectly performed by an amazing cast). Can't help but still like it because of how well it's acted, shot, scored and all that. Everyone seems to give their 100% to sell these stories.
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I love when people recognise asexual/aromatic people when discuss sexual/romantic topics. Thank you for continuing to be inclusive, it is so appreciated ❤
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I always thought the Juliet story line was creepy. But I thought I must be paranoid or something because everyone in the world loved that scene with the poster boards. Thank you for making this video! I'll never doubt my intuition again.
As someone who was betrayed by a best friend in similar circumstances it disturbed me people thought it was sweet. It’s an unethical and immoral situation. Her husband should run a while.
that part made me cringe the first time, and it gets worse every time i rewatch
Honestly NOT everyone loved it
Whenever we talked of love actually back in the day with friends, everyone agreed that the poster board/Xmas carols scene was cringe. Never met anyone who found it romantic.
And the woman runs after him and gives him a thank you kiss, while her new husband is upstairs..m this is cheating
I don't think it's cute but I don't think it's creepy either, until she runs after him to kiss him - now, that I never understood. He was a bit awkward, she discovered why it was, he came to explain with white boards and I guess it's because he's still awkward at this point, even more so! So, he wasn't ready to talk about it and he wasn't able to avoid them either. Soo, he kinda sent her a text in a more cinematic way. That's all, and I don't know what else could be done here.
Having dealt with my husband cheating on me, I wish that my husband had considered doing Gottmans 3 steps instead of ghosting me for two years and giving up. Emma, as an actress, portrayed that so well. It was heart wrenching to watch.
In an interview she said she was tapping into her own experience of betrayal with her ex husband, Kenneth Branagh, when she found out about his affair with Helena Bonham-Carter.
My ex cheated on me with his ex, came clean, I forgave him after he assured me he still wanted to be with me... and then he dumped me anyway three months later. 🙃
@@thornwilde4579 well been there. Caught him sexting his ex, he begged for hours (6-8 to be exact), I forgave him and 2.5 months later same thing.
Sadly when we don't look for the answer inside of us it's almost a guarantee that it'll happen again.
There's a video of Mended light that talks about cheaters, in there Jonathan says that cheaters are lonely, sad people that don't love themselves. Like a bucket with a hole, no matter how much love you pour in it, it will never be enough so they bring more people into the equation and it's the same result.
Let's hope the channel (Mended light) gets restored soon, there are some beautiful insights in there that can help you.
I just broke up with him last week so we need more counseling hehe.
God bless you, I'll always feel your pain ❤
@@thornwilde4579 ouch 😢
When I first watched this movie I thought that Mark was crushing on Peter during the wedding and pining over the fact that he could never reveal his true feelings for his best friend. This would have been a much more interesting story IMHO.
yesss. i really thought when she played the wedding video it would only be clips of his best friend instead.
I just realized that when Alan and John speak together it labels them as "Internet Dads" and that is just so wholesome. I Actually, Love you both. Thank you for all your advice it has helped me in all of my relationships and I think of John's advice often navigating my first year of marriage.
You’re welcome! We’re so glad to help!
PLEASE STOP. Give me a friggin break. The internet is NOT A REAL PLACE. If you are going to the internet to seek, truth, help with relationships, friendships, advice or porn, you are making a TERRIBLE MISTAKE. INTERNET DADS???
@@hmicky-mickey The "Internet Dads" label was in the closed captions. Also.. I'll point out that the internet is full of real people with real feelings, such as the commenter as well as the makers of this video. You don't have to agree with them, or share their feelings, but that doesn't change the fact that they are real people on the other side of the screen.
@@orchidcolors My friend, you are confused about what "connection" "verisimilitude" and "reality" are. Social media is NOT community. The internet is, at best, a SIMULATION. You conflate networking with connection. You conflate attention with care. Yes, there are mostly HUMANS behind the keyboard (mostly), but the internet is NOT human, nor does it represent humanity. This may be too philosophical for you, but it is also a concrete fact that it DOES NOT represent the complexities of a REAL HUMAN PERSON IN REAL LIFE. And it reduces our complexity to see the person behind the message (BOTS, lies, deception, etc. all go without saying). And because of everything that I just mentioned, the internet is not only a very dangerous, caustic tool, it is also responsible for destroying real connections and communication that take place in the REAL WORLD. And, my friend, I'm just getting started.
@@hmicky-mickey You sound like a bot
I am rooting for the body doubles. They were actually respectful of each other. A few of the other couples were creepy.
The American taking the hot guy home was so cringe.
I like how you guys promote honesty in relationships
The number one was my favorite too, it's so sweet. The stepdad being concerned with his stepkid after his wife passes and dealing with his own grief.
Daniel and Sam's relationship is one of the only reasons I watch this movie. It's a fantastic relationship that perfectly conveys how parents should treat their kids
I'm not gonna lie, halfway through this video I started writing down notes as if I was at a lecture. So much insight and so useful for writing relationships! 😍 Thank you!
Headcanon, Joanna's favourite film was Titanic, and watched it to the point of irritation for her boys, and now it's a real source of comfort (and in Daniels case, terrible irony) and something for them to bond over.
Oh, I like that SO MUCH!
This is the best headcanon!
When Sam was staying in his room and Dan was worrying if the boy was taking drugs, Sam actually was watching love movies trying to figure out how love works. And the Titanic was the center piece in his "research". The scene when Daniel discovers Sam's room with walls covered in romantic movie posters was deleted from final version
Love Actually was my first introduction to Bill Nighy, and he has been one of my favourite actors ever since. Even though my feelings about this movie are mixed, I will forever be grateful it jumpstarted Bill Nighy's mainstream career.
He's a wonderful actor
He's good in 'About Time' but my favourite parts of his are in 'Hot Fuzz' and 'Shaun of the Dead'.
Davy Jones in Pirates is my favorite from him.
@@Banquet42i LOVE About Time. Superb!!
The only part of this movie I didn’t HATE was the story with Bill Nighy"
I actually like the Colin arc, because it is so outlandish and ridiculous for his insane plan to actually work, that it's just funny as hell. It may just all be happening in his head, and suddenly (after the credits roll), he wakes up and realizes his America trip was all a dream.
When I first saw it, I thought we would find out he was dreaming. It was fun though how over the top it was.
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His actor refused to accept pay for the bedroom scene because he had so much fun shooting it
@@mariehernandez5878 I thought he'd wake up, and he'd find out that the girls had robbed him, clothes and all. Imagine THIS later scene: him, on the phone with his best friend and sitting on the edge of the hotel bed, curled up and naked. (6/20/2024)
All of your scenarios in this thread and more actually happen, all the time.
I'm not a romantic comedy fan by nature. I had to watch this movie for an Intro to Film course in university, and I fell in love with it...actually lol
I particularly find the Billy Mack and Joe relationship wholesome. We had to write a paper about three different relationships in the movie and how the film conveyed them, and one of the ones I picked was that one. The T.A. actually took marks off because they said that one didn't count and I am STILL SALTY ABOUT IT. PLATONIC LOVE IS VALID!
I also find it fascinating that you put Jamie and Aurelia so high, since I know that's often one people point at in this movie and say "ooo, that's just infatuation", usually because of the language barrier. I appreciate your take on it, though.
You are absolutely correct. The movie is called Love Actually. It doesn't mean 'Romantic Love Actually is The Only Kind of Love There Is'. If that was the case the Billy Mack and Joe storyline wouldn't have been part of the movie. I thought that it was lovely. Your TA was completely wrong. 😊
Billy Mack and Joe is philos, or the brotherly love, which Plato as an Athenian could/would never separate from sexual love. Maybe, Aristophanes could.
And your TA needs to grow up (or you didn't explain it well enough, in which case the marks did need to be lowered).
If they said relationships and didn't specify they had to be romantic, you were definitely in the right
One thing that I love about Daniel and Sam relationship is how when he first talk about him being in love Daniel asked him “she or he?”, not making assumptions on the gender. It was so ahead of his time xx
It was 2003, dude.
@@Rugelacharugula I’m from Mexico, dude. That still not happens today aha
@@meloreli2010 not sure what that has to do with anything
@@Rugelacharugula I think it means that Mexico is backwards regarding progressive thinking and acceptance.
@@Rugelacharugula For 2003 that was very out of the ordinary. People still shame non straight relationships today, so 20 years ago is quite impressive
I am so glad you did this. This movie kind of drove me nuts, because I have the same reaction - I'm really tired of the assumption that infatuation equals love. It DOESN'T! It's fun, it's an incredible chemical high, but it has very little to do with actual love. Also, everyone is INCREDIBLY attractive (especially the women, as usual), so, much of the movie is really only about sexual attraction. Confused, as usual, with love. Insert sigh of irritation here. But (my third edit) I have to agree, the Emma Thompson/Alan Rykman storyline and acting is great. Two excellent actors!
I agree with you too. I don't get the appeal of this movie like so many others do. It's possible that my 1st watch of it came at a time where I was going through a breakup so Emma Thompson's pain was so palpable and Alan Rickman's reaction felt equally honest that it infuriated me.
@@craftygirl9666 you know, I went back and watched it again after seeing this video, and I didn't hate it. But I still find it problematic in a lot of places. However, you're absolutely right, Emma Thompson's work here is absolutely the best of the film, by miles. And it's hard to watch.
Have you seen the deleted scenes? It's almost a whole other movie. And they make especially the relationship between Daniel and Sammy even better.
Just my opinion, but Richard Curtis need to continually thank the executives and editors who got him to cut those scenes. His work today isn’t nearly as good because nobody is willing to tell him “no,” and reel in his worst tendencies.
I found the Love Actually infatuation with the best friend's young wife so creepy. He's never even spoken to her and they have zero in common, but he's obsessed with her looks and uses her wedding as an excuse to film her so he can gratify himself later when he watches the videos. He seems more sexually excited by her being forbidden and unavailable (married to his best friend) than he is with her as a person.
I have not seen the movie in a while, but I doubt he never had spoken to his bf’s girlfriend. And his friend would also realistically talk of her a lot.
To add to the creepiness, Keira Knightly was only 17 when she shot the movie and if I am not mistaken both of her "love interests" were in their 30s.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 I also didn't see it in a long time but if I remember correctly one of the reasons why she is so surprised when she discovers his feeling is because (as she says) he never talked to her, avoided her...
@@nomadpurple6154 Yah! LOL...
Who says that he only likes her looks? He might have not talked to her too much in order to disguise his feelings, but he probably knew her through what his best friend told him about her and what he had observed.
I don't find that creepy! I find that is sad and unfortunate for the person who fell in love with someone that they know they shouldn't.
Emma Thompson is so stunningly fabulous and heartwrenching, even this little clip made me tear up
So I had a great aunt who lived in France and she married my great uncle who spoke English when they barely understood each other . Her advice was “you don’t always need words”. They were married for like 50 years until he died . She loved him until she died . It is possible ❤
That's a lot of work, most people today are for instant gratification.
I love a somehow similar relationship in "Call the Midwive" (the very fist episode) with an English-Spanish family with 24 kids and husband and wive still not knowing the other language. They managed fine! :)
My husband still maintains that as soon as he saw me he thought I will be his wife one day. It took another year and half for this to come true, but we’ve been married for 27 years and raised 5 kids. Granted he spoke my language and I spoke his at the time,but CF didn’t kiss Aurelia back when she did, he wanted on to learn her language before coming back to propose. Plus he is so channeling a 1986 mr Darcy, so everyone, plz, shut up about how toxic this particular relationship is, it is perfect!
There's a song about that, by Namika - Je ne parle pas francais and it's half-German and half-French. And it has a good beat.
@@bishop51807 is it rly just today tho?
I know it was discussed briefly but can we do full relationship analysis on all the Holiday characters please? Love your channel!
Watch their previous video where they’re ranking Christmas movies - there’s a lot about The Holiday in there
Yes, please!!
Two people that I loved very much were confronted with the problem of an affair in their marriage. The marriage survived. I believe it did because they loved each other enough to go to couples therapy and they did all three of these things. Both passed away a decade ago but from them, I learned what love can be. I never realized how much they helped me until this video review. Thank you.
i LITERALLY just went back to find this original video yesterday, because i had just watched love actually and needed to know your opinions lmao, how weird!
I literally watched Love Actually (for the 80th time) on Friday night and then searched the original video of this after it!!
As opposed to figuratively finding and watching?? :P
This episode was very most beautiful the premier time. Jono and the Alan have a very transparency way of the talking.
Actually really nice to watch a video with two chaps analysing a romcom, taking it seriously and offering solid insights. Thank you! I really enjoyed this video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
I was literally looking for this video today and I was heartbroken that I couldn’t find it, but we’ve got the rerelease! Let’s go!!
The movie to me never really was about showing just "in love" relationships but in fact is highlighting various types of 'love', from broken love of infidelity in a long-term marriage to unreciprocated infatuation, to lust/sexual relationships, to friendship, to love between a father and son. Plus then within all these stories about these types of love they have their own micro examples of 'love' such as Liam Neeson as the father mourning the loss of his wife, loss of love, but the main story centers on the bond-building between father and son. I also think it's a shame to not mention part of why Sarah's sexual/crush love does not work out is because of the unhealthy balance she places on loving her brother that needs extra care and sometimes is even violent towards her. It is this idea that is echoed in the pop song, "Love is All Around" that the interconnectivity of the stories helps to show that whether it is healthy or unhealthy we are surrounded and encompassed by 'love'.
I really appreciated your mention of Sarah and her brother. I was also hoping it would be among the relationships analyzed in this list. Just so many relationships of so very many different kinds in this film. And I love the cut scenes where we witness additional fascinating and complex interpersonal stories.
Yeah the little charity sequel has her with Patrick Dempsey and no brother, so she gets a happy ending ;)
Belated reply, but I love that the pop star and his manager decide to spend an evening in platonic love, enjoying each other and being companionable. My friend relationships are extremely important to me and always have been, even when I was married. I’m happily single with mutually respectful “lust” relationships for years now, and my bff who I love (non-romantically) almost unconditionally is actually engaged with a wonderful woman who is amazing. He still prioritizes our friendship (not to the detriment of his relationship) and I always did the same in my marriage. Friebds are important. We usually hang out once a week, and we live an hour apart. His gf is super cool with it because it makes him happy, and I would never (and he absolutely wouldn’t) compromise their lives together. I think we forget how important non-romantic relationships/ friendships are what with all the rom coms etc. that’s part of why I still love this movie.
The thing that really moved me about Emma Thompson's acting as Karen, is that she used the feelings she'd had from finding out Kenneth Branagh & Helena Bonham Carter had an affair while Kenneth & Emma were married (Kenneth & Helena met on the set of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein) to portray Karen as feeling how Emma feels. Fine acting from Emma Thompson & Alan Rickman.
Hey guys. As a portuguese who really works to learn more English, I think your coment about Jamie and Aurélia was very sweet. The atress Lúcia Moniz is very famous in Portugal. They're story line is my favorite. Is comic Jamie is speaking broken portuguese (with a similar brazilian accent ) is hilarious and sweet. Thank you guys for the apreciation of our language.
Adoro-vos. Obrigada 🇵🇹❤️🇺🇲☺️
If I were Juliet, I would lie to my husband, thinking of a surprise from his best friend to him. As soon as I realized it wasn’t that, I should be mad at him!
Thank you for this video. Growing up watching a ton of these romantic movies, it is perfect to hear, that most of these relationships are not healthy and this isn't "normal".
It gives you a distorted look on what romance and love are supposed to be like and try to chase it in everday life, only to fall down, face first.
One reason why I love, when there is no happy ending, but a realistic - it is just not meant to be and it is okay.
I watched "Love actually" a long time ago and seeing this (or rewatching things) made me realize that some movies or Tv shows are not healthy as we thought before. We really don't think we just watch but theeen...
Watching 'unhealthy things' isn't necessarily bad. You don't leave 'Oedipus Rex' with the urge to commit incest and patricide, although you could argue that Oedipus did have his comeuppance in the end, unlike some British boys in Love Actually. But that's why you're not born yesterday. You take the time to think: "Does this result seem fair? Would this be the consequences that I or others would want?" No answer is perfect, but whatever answer you give is where you are.
@@thewatcherinthecloud indeed...but that wasn't really my point, i will continue to watch movies and many things, bad or good. It's just the thought after, when I re watch i wasn't thinking about that before, when I grow-up to understand more things
The amount of carp were watched growing up is... pheew 😶
The pop culture that we expose ourselves to, shapes who we are more than we realize.
@@bishop51807 Absolutely, repeated exposure to certain behaviors can wear down an aversion to them, until they begin to feel more "acceptable" or ok.
I’ve watched this movie a THOUSAND times. I just clocked that Bill was channeling Keith Richards and Johnny Depp 🤦🏾♀️
Keith Richards...that's who I was thinking of. Just saw it for the first time last night and kept thinking Mick Jagger.
you mean davy jones was channeling jack sparrow and captain teague?
I watched it once yesterday thought it was terrible & don't plan on ever watching again. What is so great about this movie?
@@ff2154 Interesting stories, interesting characters, great humour and it feels like it doesn't take itself as seriously as american rom coms.
@@ff2154 I mean being uncomfortable with nude scenes isn't really flaw of the movie. Scenes are done in pretty comedic way.
Character not being good person doesn't mean he isn't good character, especially with allan rickman who is great boss caring about his employees and family just stupid to get seduced. He isn't black and white. Complex characters tend to be best.
Love that you brought Gottman into the analysis! LCSW Gottman trained therapist here! More people need to embrace Gottman theory!
He's not in a committed relationship, IT MATTERS. THANK YOUUUUUUU
To all those who wondered what happened to these characters, "Red Nose Day" in Britain, a charity to end childhood poverty, encourages participation through comedy and donations. They filmed a sequel to "Love, Actually" and it's available on RUclips. Another year they did one based on "Four Weddings and a Funeral". Original cast participation, and they are fun to watch.
I always thought that the joke for the "plumpy" character was that she wasn't fat at all. So everyone keeps calling someone who fits the mold for a societally accepted body but is still called fat because beauty standards suck. I really loved the video 😀
Nah, this was the time for the "anorexia chique" body beauty standard. It's gross but you saw lots of non-fat bodies being shamed for being fat, which is shitty for two reasons.
I agree with you, Anne. But people were very rude about the actor in comparison with the waif look of the time, so I think it's a deliberate middle finger to society.
I like how Jonathan gesticulates when he talks, and every time he does, his chair squeaks. Merry Christmas.
I watch cinema therapy as soon as it comes out. I usually watch RUclips on my phone. But I always put this on my big screen tv. Lots of love for you all and your families
You're so kind. Thanks for watching!
I always have so much appreciation for people who acknowledge that ace/aro people exist when talking about romance/sex.
I loved this video! There is actually a sequel short film they released for Red Nose Day that shows us where are most of the relationships in the first movie. They unhealthy ones get a somewhat satisfying ending, I think its worth checking out! Happy Holidays!
I liked Mark’s Resolution in Red Nose Actually.
Still bummed about how Martin Freeman isn't in it...
I love you guys being so accurate and thoughtful about these ridiculous relationships. I’ve actually never heard a man talk like this before. Not trying to put down the male sex or anything. I just love hearing some intelligent conversation and not just thinking it’s all about sex.
I wouldn't actually say it treats infatuation as love, I would say it accepts the characters' definitions of love. That said, the even creepier thing about Juliet and her husband's best friend is that he has been so obsessed with her and not letting it show that she thought he hated her. He is so jealous he can't even treat her with reasonable courtesy for his best friend's sake. And then he makes a spank bank video of her at her wedding and then does the creepy signboard thing. And for being a complete stalker he gets rewarded with a kiss. I have always thought she should either go inside and tell her husband immediately or give the best friend a kiss on the cheek, tell him she'd flattered, but she loves her husband, then go inside and tell him everything.
@cassandra I really love this movie, and have watched it, oh I don’t know, 6-7 times maybe?
And I know, knew it even the first time, that the way “love” and/or “being in love” are portrayed here is pretty superficial, and pretty unrealistic. It just doesn’t *feel* right.
That doesn’t take away from the romantic glow of the movie, which is what makes for a good movie. I know very well that it doesn’t work in reality, and still I love it.
Where I’m not completely in agreement is with how you view the Juliet-husband-hubbie’s best friend dynamic.
The way I see it being portrayed (and I’m as subjective as can be …), I don’t see any sense of jealousy on his part. His keeping his distance is purely out of what he himself calls “self-preservation”. I really get that, I can very well imagine myself doing the same thing in a similar situation.
The signboards thing, slightly over the top (well, completely over the top 😅), but it’s a romantic movie, so it’s par for the course, we all get that it doesn’t happen in real life. The kiss, somewhat problematic, though I’ve always felt it as a kind gesture. I don’t see any romance in it.
Though obviously there’s gonna be an afterwards in reality. But the movie doesn’t deal in “afterwardses” or consequences in any real sense. Apart from the Alan Rickman & Emma Thompson relationship.
Just my take on this, I don’t pretend to be “right”, or that you’re “wrong” in any way 😊
I always thought she was to tell him I likw you as my husband's friend. Not kiss him. Not tell husband. Just let it go.
Is that how you see it? He says it straight out, it's there in the writing: She says "I thought you didn't like me, you're never nice to me", and he says "it's self preservation". He can't control how he feels, but he does his utmost to keep his distance to not be crushed by it. That's why he avoids her and puts up an ice front to keep her away. Not because he's "so obsessed with not letting it show".
You probably have terribly unhealthy relationships
@@donotreply8979 Possibly. Thanks for judging me. :)
I always take time before I fall for someone. I can't deal with all that "there has to be a spark right away" and "you need to know from the start if you're compatible in bed" that everyone keeps telling me, because for me it is just a lot of anxiety and stress, meeting someone new, and I do need to get to know them before I can tell if there is even a chance for a relationship. A lot of guys I met couldn't handle it and wanted to do "stuff" right away, so I've always felt like there's something wrong with me.. Thank you for reasurring me I'm not in the wrongs.
I appreciate finding this channel. I hope anyone writing or working production on movies finds it and doesn't think someone HAS to be a therapist to notice these things. We all do subconsciously, even though we might not want to, or are unable to explain it as eloquently as done here. It's the reason so many of us just end us saying, "That movie sucked!" and hoping the next one on the to-watch-list is written by someone with an education, a brain and real-life experience...
I like that "reasons" for why people have affairs were given but he wrapped it up by saying that ultimately it's a lack of integrity. Like, yes, we should understand what the cheater is going through but it is still wrong and they should take responsibility. I have always felt like the devil's advocate when it comes to love stuff because I want to understand both sides so I think I'm stealing this from you lol
Yeah you divorce you don’t cheat on them
I agree 100% with this rating. Sam and Daniel are my favorite parts of the movie. The fact that Daniel is his step dad is even more heartwarming. And the Red Nose continued story is so beautiful.
The fact that Sam and Joanna are also the voice actors for Ferb and Vanessa.
@@morbidsearch yes!! I love that!!
I remember being so excited to watch love actually in theaters when I was 16, and then feeling massively depressed for at least 3 days after. Hated it. Hated how it made me realize how selfish people can be.
A few years ago,the charity event Comic Relief,produced a sequel called “Red-nose day actually”.It shows through different segments what happened to some of the couples from then to now.Juliet and Peter are still married,Mark has gotten over Juliet and reveals to her that he’s found someone else.David is still prime minister (well just returned as) and is married to Natalie,who is no longer working for him.
Jamie and Aurelia are living in England with three kids.They are helping eachother learn their languages,Aurelia is shown to be more fluent in English,whilst Jamie…well.Billy is still making music,but sadly Joe has passed due to a heart attack.Sam has grown up and moved to America,but comes back to visit Daniel and reveals his engagement to Joanna (the girl from the movie,who also came).
An American version was produced with an extra scene,showing that Sarah had married actor Patrick Dempsey.
13:38 - I always thought Sarah‘s love story in the movie was more about her relationship with her brother. It’s a relationship I kept expecting you to bring up… Otherwise I agree with the order. Thanks for this video.
I think it's a terrible stigmatising message that if she loves her brother, she has to give up on her own wants and needs. As a mental health professional its diappointikg as it paints the brother as just a terrible burden, albeit one who is deeply loved by her.
Agreed. IMO, they completely missed the point of that segment.
@@helendonovan7984 >>paints the brother as just a terrible burden
Yeah that’s how I felt when I first watched it. It was heartbreaking because they both understood that she’s not currently emotionally available and that’s so hurtfully mature
@helendonovan7984 honestly tho that's how it is sometimes. My brother has autism and when I left for university I would get calls at all times for me to calm him down.
Really amazing synchronicity in my life: my daughter is applying to colleges and has decided she may be interested in going into filmmaking. And she also just told me the other day that she hates the movie, love actually. I sent her the link to your video with the following message:
I came across this and it’s really pretty spot on. I watched it through because you recently told me you hate the movie love actually.
This is a mixture of film critique and psychological evaluation of the plot and the characters.
It’s the kind of assessment of storytelling that is very valuable in the sense of learning about human behavior, and looking at filmmaking thoughtfully.
Merry Christmas to you all 🎄Definitely my favourite Christmas movie. The fact that Emma Thompson’s acting feels so real is because she was really going through the same thing at the time the movie was made
Really? Who was she married to? Did they divorce?
@@ct6852 Kenneth Branagh, he had an affair with Helena Bonham Carter. They did divorce.
@@Chibs86 Awe bummer. I like the idea of them as a couple. Wasn't meant to be though, I guess.
Kenneth B cheated on her to be with Helena Bonham-Carter many years ago
That scene made me promise myself never to cheat on a partner. I mean, I'd never intended to do so, but her reaction really put me in the shoes of someone suffering that type of betrayal.
Please, do this with 'He's just not that into you' !!! Many different kind of relationships in that one (good and bad) and nice performances :))
Yeah!
It’s also a perfect portrayal of the psychiatrist Daniel Bem’s theory of self perception.
He realizes he’s acting the way an in love person does, and in turn realizes he must be in love.
A perfect critique. The cast are amazing and the music is first grade. Attitudes are changing, but Love Actually remains a warm, solid, room-com; thanks for bringing it back to my attention in such an entertaining way.
It's really interesting hearing your perspectives on Love Actually. Overall, I agree with most of your decisions completely. The only one I don't agree with is Sarah but for a completely different reason. I thought the movie was actually trying to show that Sarah was in love with the idea of Karl, but that isn't the real love in her life. She gets swept away with her fantasy & when she tries to be intimate with him, her brother calls, bringing her back to reality. Being a caretaker is really, really hard & has a real cost, but her brother needs her. The love she has for her brother & how much he needs her is real. Too real for Karl - that's why they didn't work. He wanted something easy & Sarah's life isn't easy.
I would have liked to hear your thoughts on the relationship between Sarah and her brother, and also the friendship between Emma Thompson’s character and Liam Neeson’s one as she supports him as he grieves. Those are also loving relationships, one definitely with unhealthy boundaries and the other showing a loving friendship.
I think that they are brother and sister. Not friendship.