Your Friends Don't Support Your Music

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @DJPain1
    @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +3

    Don’t pay to get your beats on Spotify. Use the promo code “ATODDS” at www.toolost.com for free premium distribution for three months.

  • @FoePoundProduction
    @FoePoundProduction 7 месяцев назад +2

    Friends and family may not support because the music you make is not what they like to listen to. If you make r&b but your friend fav genre is rock, they may not be too interested.

  • @TheJyagerShow
    @TheJyagerShow 7 месяцев назад +9

    this is why i say to people, do things because you genuinely feel like it, not because of obligations or expectations of others. like the lord said "he helps, he who helps himself"

  • @tyronesellers382
    @tyronesellers382 7 месяцев назад +15

    I wrote mine down on paper 10 years ago and now my dream to be a captain on a fishing vessel has come true so yes I can relate. Thanks, believe in yourself.

  • @Sickspeedbeatz
    @Sickspeedbeatz 7 месяцев назад +10

    Funny story:
    My friend who actually got me into producing in the first place quit to have the 2.5 kids/wife/dog. I played some beats for him, showed him my sales and the opportunities i got to work with some great people in the bizz; his response was “thats cool” is the most straitest face ever.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +1

      I mean he wasn’t gonna buy them, didn’t know how to promote them and probably hated the fact that he quit and you didn’t.

    • @Antonio_Ortiz
      @Antonio_Ortiz 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, that's a tricky situation: of course you want to share your successes with your loved ones, but showing a close friend that you succeeded in a place where they failed or left behind is bittersweet.
      Honestly, I would probably just keep that subject out of future conversations, just cause I'm not trying to hurt the friend and I don't want resentments because they think I'm flexing.
      You should always be proud of your accomplishments, though. Salute to you for working towards the dream.

    • @phakzonthebeat
      @phakzonthebeat 7 месяцев назад +4

      it is better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all

  • @TheJyagerShow
    @TheJyagerShow 7 месяцев назад +9

    i think a lot of people live with so many expectations of everyone else that they set themselves up for disappointment. i understand why some people feel like they need social validation to feel like they are valued, doing right or headed in the right direction with what they're doing but i think most times that only happens because they hold no value for self. and very true a lot of times people just don't communicate clearly and then become frustrated by it.

  • @lamarj3037
    @lamarj3037 7 месяцев назад +6

    Here's a story for you. I make beats and was working a 9 to 5, and I ran into an artist who was related to a HUGE songwriter(did the research and everything this person told me checked out). So I sent this individual some beats through email, and the person I was dating at the time found put that I sent this person some beats and FLIPPED OUT and threatened to leave me. Then found out after everything that it was just business and nothing more. Lost the connection and the other(Yay!) Did not send it through Instagram nor Facebook. Emails. Yes. The ones closest to you won't support you and if you find the ones that do without asking for anything in return, keep them by your side!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +2

      Whoever you were dating, they’re toxic af. Anybody that jealous and reactive would have eventually destroyed your life.

  • @BarkingForBroccoliBG
    @BarkingForBroccoliBG 7 месяцев назад +2

    People don't realize that friends and family are more likely to share your stuff if you paint paintings or have a restaurant than they are with music because music is is shared when it's become part of the soundtrack of their life and most people are not riding around listening g to their friends and family music and instead are listening g to music thst was playing g during key events I their own lives. Music works so much more different than anything else. EVEN Drake mentioned in an old song that he would play whatever he had just recorded in the car for his girlfriend then she would be like "cool" now can we put on Ludacris " to her Ludacris wZ the soundtrack to her life not music by her u k own at the time boyfriend Drake. Now thst same girl most likely plays Drake instead.

  • @ck12twelve
    @ck12twelve 7 месяцев назад +3

    Huge props to Erinn! Her philosophies on the music business, and life in general, are so damn realistic and impressive...

  • @emptytombprod
    @emptytombprod 7 месяцев назад +12

    Ppl looking for reposts/shares/etc from people who can't do anything to elevate you is hilarious to me. Wanting a little support is different, but you can't expect everyone to vibe with you.

    • @paultorbert6929
      @paultorbert6929 7 месяцев назад +1

      Subbed to you on the Channel Name, all I needed to know !!!!!!!

  • @bblessedbeats
    @bblessedbeats 7 месяцев назад +2

    It all comes down to your mindset at the end of the day, y’all were definitely speaking facts. 💎

  • @jdovma1
    @jdovma1 7 месяцев назад +15

    I'm looking to keep my friends and family out of it completely if I ever put my work out there. They're not the encouragement types.

    • @seemsright9822
      @seemsright9822 7 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly I know what it is to show someone your work in hopes for the support but it's never how you expect.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +1

      Same to an extent

  • @bulagazibaggy1511
    @bulagazibaggy1511 7 месяцев назад +3

    Nice, this fell like therapy. Truth is that I always tell my artist that your friends are fans, build your fans. You make music for your fans not your friends.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching

    • @bulagazibaggy1511
      @bulagazibaggy1511 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@DJPain1 oops meant friends are not your fans. But I believe you got the idea. Typing can be a B#### sometimes

  • @MultifacetsOfDeMarcus
    @MultifacetsOfDeMarcus 7 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with the piece that people have to be consistent.
    Where I disagree is, it’s not necessarily what people in regard to their careers but the more so the goals they are reaching towards.
    I may have a friend that is a Dentist, a a friend that’s a chef, one that does music, etc., Yes we have all would have different career paths but if all 3 of our goals are to be entrepreneurs…we should be having conversations around building each other and helping support towards that. Our industries are different but I may have your next customer on my page. Social media can’t be the only way you support.
    People will know more about celebrities and their business. But you don’t know how anything is going on with the people that are consistent around you. Then you want to say you were a apart of the journey since Day 1.
    There should always be a goal to push for community.

  • @GgWhyfye
    @GgWhyfye 7 месяцев назад +2

    PAIN! "ARTISTS weaponize relationships" QUOTE OF THE DAY!! Look at metro future and kendrick right now!! spot on! you even pulled some bible knowledge out I forget the exact verse but its something like "commune with your brother accordingly to who they are" and to show pure kindness without selfish motives. don't do things for your loved ones or people around you with the mindset of receiving something back in return. the universe will bless you 10 times over ...

  • @Aliengroover
    @Aliengroover 7 месяцев назад +1

    Erinn's on point with the algo. If you are doing this at all online you need to understand it.
    Side note: The point about giving instructions to your friend? You guys may already be making the video, but the whole JT (City Girls) post about how she wanted her fans to stream isn't far off from that mindset. lol

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz 7 месяцев назад +3

    Something to consider: you may make a style of music that is not your friends' cup of tea, or maybe your family just isn't the type who likes to push content online, so asking them to act as your marketing team for free is not fair to them, and you shouldn't take it personally. They are already supporting you by not discouraging you from making music.
    When you start getting real views and real money, your fans will give you that push, and your friends and family will feel more compelled to check you out and support you later on.
    Gotta keep those feelings in check and stay focused improving yourself and your craft first. If the music is good, things will come together eventually.

  • @dooshnukem32
    @dooshnukem32 7 месяцев назад +2

    Appreciate y'all. These talks have helped me come to the conclusion that I didn't want anymore what I had been chasing for years (success as an artist). Instead, in the meantime, I'm getting a couple small service businesses up and running with a buddy of mine, getting my financial affairs in order, and reinvesting into production/mixing/mastering when I have the means to properly organize and advertise.
    I'd been running in the race so long, I forgot to slow down and think about where I was going.

  • @ttondakeys
    @ttondakeys 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great conversation! I recently learned that people will put attention on you/your craft when they want to. So I put the work in producing great content so when it comes time for them to put attention, they will have much content to digest

  • @prestonbutton827
    @prestonbutton827 7 месяцев назад +2

    I remember making beats back in the day 2010+ for my homies and rapped on a bunch of them. We started to do shows, open mics etc. I got some love n shoulder shrugs. When I started going to venues where nobody knew me /us.. I experienced appreciation for my art both lyrically and production wise. True story. Get out of your comfort zone n see true reactions 🎉🎉🎉

  • @dimanatti
    @dimanatti 7 месяцев назад +3

    The way i see it, is that is a two way street with me when dealing with people, ill support however i can, but if you aren't supporting me in my business as well then all future supports are DONE in a political way cause in reality theirs no beef. Sometimes people ask for support, but when you turn to ask them for support back is a different story. is like they feel entitled to it when it comes to them but not to others. Then they have a problem with you as if you owe them something. ha!.
    "You got plans on gettin' rich? Well, consider this The ones who expect the most favors ain't give you shit (fuck you want?)" - Benny The Butcher. And i don't do beats, I do video and photography but in the creative world all the issues (or at least most) everyone goes through them. Just try to keep the peace and keep it pushing.

  • @NotXaq
    @NotXaq 7 месяцев назад +1

    Of all the times I’ve started and quit and started again, my friends have never LOVED my music. Most of my life a lot of them wouldn’t even listen to a track even through I know they know I’m trying to push it out. It used to bother me, until I saw a clip from a Waka interview where he said “your friends are not your fans”. And that just cleared out all the negative emotions I held related to the subject. They don’t have to like my music just like I don’t have to like the music they’d rather play in the car lol
    We expect our friends to support our dream’s because they’re our friends, but that’s not even really fair. “If he wanted to he would” type thinking, but if I never had a conversation w him/her, it’s not fair to expect anything fr

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +2

      That ‘if he wanted to, he would’ narrative is destructive and childish for sure

  • @Jake_20011
    @Jake_20011 7 месяцев назад +2

    I like this convo right here as someone who makes music as a passion not a career with no plans to make a career out of it it's never really bothered me my friends or my family dont ask about my music cause I'll be straight up honest I'm not consistent enough and my creative inspiration comes and goes so quickly. I have a SoundCloud I don't promote I strictly do it cause make music is fun and I know not everyone is meant to make it in music. I hope everyone that dreams of making music their career makes it come true but don't isolate your friends and family for not fully seeing your vision. In this day and age of fast food music things come and go and if you have what it takes to have longevity then they will eventually see what you see. I don't really have a dog in the argument but I did enjoy this discussion

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you 🙏🏽

  • @metacouture
    @metacouture 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you 🙏 both. I needed to hear that. Makes sense. 🙏🙏🙏~ stefan

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for watching

  • @zainjolalbum
    @zainjolalbum 5 месяцев назад

    True, as a artist no one really supports you only from a far. I feel they want you to not move beyond what they do. Or become more than them.

  • @wrkeys
    @wrkeys 7 месяцев назад +8

    I wasn't looking for your validation because I was building what you didn't understand. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Jacksondonnie
    @Jacksondonnie 7 месяцев назад +4

    These "Books" that quoted comes from The Bible.

  • @GwizProducer84
    @GwizProducer84 7 месяцев назад +4

    This is such an important video and topic. The quicker u can put fans and friends and family into two different boxes and keep ‘em separate better off you’ll be. Like pain said high portion of folks are miserable at their jobs Why would they care to support someone chasing their dreams. Some of my friends love my beats n some have no interest it. That’s cool are relationships were never built on that
    Musicians on the other hand are an egotistical driven bunch and if it doesn’t help them get ahead they ain’t messing with it. U don’t owe anybody a repost, retweet, album/ticket purchase etc… and vice versa

  • @gphyzz2934
    @gphyzz2934 7 месяцев назад +6

    True..Your audience will be strangers..

  • @KhaalProductions
    @KhaalProductions 7 месяцев назад +4

    Erinn on 🔥I love her authenticity

  • @derekmusic5753
    @derekmusic5753 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great talk I just recently decided to stop taking to my family about my music I've seen a long time ago they act like they like my music they never ask to hear anything its only when I talk about it & I can see they not into my work

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      IMO it’s best to just focus your precious energy and time on your demographic

  • @ItsBlackBeardBaby
    @ItsBlackBeardBaby 7 месяцев назад +6

    When my friends share nothing but other people’s music or content consistently at some point it’s like bro come on can you share one of my post or tracks. Yes I still don’t hold that against our friendship but I just don’t get my hopes up anymore.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +1

      They just like other people’s music I guess

    • @sontwisted
      @sontwisted 7 месяцев назад +1

      Your music is not special because they know you

    • @beatbuildersstudio
      @beatbuildersstudio 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@sontwistedExactly.

    • @ItsBlackBeardBaby
      @ItsBlackBeardBaby 7 месяцев назад

      @@sontwisteddef not implying that at all. This one friend is like a brother to me. His business is in a completely different profession and field. I guess what got me is that at one point it was said “bro if you make it break me off, don’t forget about me.” I’m just like I definitely wouldn’t especially if you are in my corner with support. But like I said I don’t let business get in the way of personal relationships or vice versa.

  • @DewayneOh6
    @DewayneOh6 7 месяцев назад +2

    I definitely agree with both of your assessments about this topic. Friends and family can only do so much as far as support. Like you said, most of them probably don't see your posts due to the algorithm. Think of those family and friends who get involved in network marketing. Seems like most of them spend all their time marketing to friends and family. Are their family and friends supposed to fund their entrepreneurial ambitions? Are we acting the same with our music business? Even when I look at established artists that have "made it". All I see that their fans can do with them is just buy stuff.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +1

      BRO EXACTLY! Networking marketing is the killer of friendships. It’s toxic and predatory. I have lost friends because all they wanted from me was to join their network and make them money. Fuck all that. As a musician, I’d never do that to my people.

  • @16914
    @16914 7 месяцев назад +1

    as a musician and growing we read the crowd. if your making it your going to see all types of emotions ive seen it. and its insane. i asked one of my bothers for 40 dollars to help get by . he refused.

  • @big_t_dynasty
    @big_t_dynasty 7 месяцев назад +5

    To my artist and entrepreneur friends, there are people who you love more than oxygen, that are secretly hoping that you fail just so they can tell you "I told you so".

    • @GwizProducer84
      @GwizProducer84 7 месяцев назад +2

      That’s it! 💯💯💯 Guaranteed at a miserable 9-5

  • @TheHouseOfHipHop
    @TheHouseOfHipHop 7 месяцев назад +1

    Every so often, I unearth the most stunning musical compositions, each with just around 50 plays over six years or so. I see them as exclusive treasures, much like a old painting whose value stems from its singular originality. It makes me ponder: what is the true worth of music when there exist millions of copies.

  • @prodbyryshy
    @prodbyryshy 7 месяцев назад +6

    the artists i know who are really talented do get a lot of support from friends and family. but for producers its different, people dont know what we do or how it works at all, and they dont know how to evaluate talent or skill

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      @DegenerateBeats420 nobody is deleting your comments and nobody is scared of you anywhere 😂

    • @steveStonehedge
      @steveStonehedge 6 месяцев назад +1

      thats why you be both lol, rap/sing over your own beats

    • @prodbyryshy
      @prodbyryshy 6 месяцев назад

      @@steveStonehedge been on that wave, it's tough tho

    • @steveStonehedge
      @steveStonehedge 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@prodbyryshy yeah I’m glad I know it now before I go further in my music career. Strangers are the best

  • @prestonbutton827
    @prestonbutton827 7 месяцев назад +1

    Pain, you are right ✅️ How do you support your friends journey to getting paid, etc. Cant expect support from people who dont get it from you. Plus, most people dont want to jump out the window for somebody when they dont do it for themselves. Entrepreneurs dont get love from people they know 4 many reasons. Not interested, hating, jealousy of you trying to go outside of a 9 to 5 when they feel stuck.

  • @JamilMusicProd
    @JamilMusicProd 7 месяцев назад +1

    Friends and Family are bias aha, I rarely let them hear my music unless they ask. I also understand not everyone has the same music taste.

  • @ayeitsdayday1471
    @ayeitsdayday1471 2 месяца назад

    facts

  • @whale_talk
    @whale_talk 7 месяцев назад +2

    @15:05 Wow. 🫨

  • @16914
    @16914 7 месяцев назад +2

    i post it because it relates to me and my life

  • @machinemademan
    @machinemademan 7 месяцев назад +3

    i think being poor is a part of the journey of suffering to making music. theres not a lot of happy people making memorable melodies. most of the most emotional and even the happiest music comes from the saddest places. go listen to a funk song and try to be depressed. but i bet they were struggling when they made it

  • @diefreemediagroup
    @diefreemediagroup 7 месяцев назад +2

    out there with the view of the cumberland i see!

  • @T.M.K-music-kings
    @T.M.K-music-kings 7 месяцев назад +1

    thanks great show

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you

  • @moshsya
    @moshsya 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great production big ups ☝🏼

  • @sonzofshelton7930
    @sonzofshelton7930 7 месяцев назад +2

    I would like to have her own my SQUAD

  • @larrytan73
    @larrytan73 7 месяцев назад +1

    Friends will be friends haters,but, I love my friends! I don't run my jawns pass my friends. I'd rather here a haters opinion. FACTS!

  • @Justauri-asdfghjkl
    @Justauri-asdfghjkl 7 месяцев назад +3

    Promoting music is labor - it isnt your friends responsibility

  • @coopforilla4000
    @coopforilla4000 7 месяцев назад +1

    Real Spit. This is fire 4 rill!

  • @therealajnelson
    @therealajnelson 3 месяца назад

    Yo, I'm almost 49, have been married 20 years, have 6 kids, etc. I've played music and written tunes all my life, but my focus has always been doing what I *have* to do to maintain my family. 4 years ago I had neck surgery and for all intents and purposes I am medically retired. Now I'm switching gears to focus on producing my tunes and just making a living writing music but apparently my old lady is a mojo assassin. She says she supports me but I think she's actively trying to nuke this dream I have. I don't know what to do. Man Pain I'm seriously thinking about splitting up when my son graduates next June. I lovw my wife but holy shit i don't want to continues this misery for my next 50, you know? Got any advice?

  • @Twizzxrd
    @Twizzxrd 7 месяцев назад +2

    they only wanna support you when you start blowing up and its horrible that friends and family don't support the way like other artist/ producers support you that dont even know you

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      If it’s the reality, we should stop wasting our energy on it. Every artists we are fans of are not our friends. We heard them on radio, saw them blow up online, heard them via bigger playlists.

  • @tigerbackwood
    @tigerbackwood 7 месяцев назад +1

    Bro my friends would love it if I quit! It’s my dream not there’s. In there mind my dream limits them from having fun with me. I’m not around as much because of it! I don’t blame them for “not supporting me”. As long as they are respectful I don’t care what they do. I love them regardless.

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      None of my friends want me to quit, but they don’t want to hear me ramble about vsts all day nor do they want to flood their social media with irrelevant posts about my newest drum kit or beat deal 🤷🏽

  • @16914
    @16914 7 месяцев назад +2

    on myspace had a juke box called snocap i think. i posted 52 tracs lost all of that content

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      Why’d you delete it?

    • @16914
      @16914 7 месяцев назад

      @@DJPain1 I didn't delete it. Had it yo all the time. Then snocap dissolved. All my teaca gone. Didn't hear from them. I had them up til juke box was no more tried to find out why anco cap discontinued could find a reapons. The thing is all those tracs anocap still has and could use without me knowing earlier tracs

  • @kingjae1498
    @kingjae1498 7 месяцев назад +1

    Uhh that's common sense..alot of ppl ya friends because of proximity

  • @Beatsfool
    @Beatsfool 7 месяцев назад +1

    My friends are haters. 😂 they like my music tho.

  • @Haku_records
    @Haku_records 7 месяцев назад +2

    Been learning this one hard lately! Just started a discord and none of my friends join but there are 200 of the raddest producers ever! discord.gg/PHyjq33Q

  • @paultorbert6929
    @paultorbert6929 7 месяцев назад +5

    Well, I don’t expect my people to support me, but just knowing that Zero-People ask me to play my latest song for them, makes me depressed…..

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад +1

      Every artist starts this way

    • @paultorbert6929
      @paultorbert6929 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@DJPain1 what y’all said about grinding the self-promotion is so true, but I have a boatload of imposter syndrome….. i Love what I do, as both music AND passion….!
      All my peers(other cats my age) think I’ve lost my way…. All the young cats think I’m for-real-fake…(!)….
      Deezy,(in Atlanta, from Monroe) is the only cat that will encourage me in my jam !!!!!!!! That’s one Meaningful Person in my Friend-Family!!!!!!!
      Anyway, I gotta get over me being so ready to fold when shiii seems to be in limbo…..
      Thank You(Pain, Erinn, Dame) for all the support and mentoring y’all give to all of us out here !!!!!!!!!!!

    • @sontwisted
      @sontwisted 7 месяцев назад

      Why

  • @anteupbeats
    @anteupbeats 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fk em I do this shit on my own

  • @hardcorepoetry2929
    @hardcorepoetry2929 7 месяцев назад +1

    There are friends that are close and friends that are tew closh @DJ Pain!!

    • @DJPain1
      @DJPain1  7 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂
      And you want me ta build a third floor awn my trailer for WILL?!