WJSN: Cosmic Girls' Story (career, success, chinese members, mistreatment, queendom, contracts)
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
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Today, we are covering #WJSN, a girl group that struggled throughout the years due to incompetent managment and neglect. Despite the obstacles, the group was able to rise higher during their years and has achieved their biggest success in their 7th year!
With the announcement of their future plans, we'll take a look back at their career as a group.
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[DISCLAIMER]
Aside from the facts backed by sources presented in the video, all connections made are purely personal ideas and are not supposed to be recognized as reality. The purpose of this video is exclusively to report on the situation, not to defame any of the companies or persons involved.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
00:38 Companies
01:30 Pre-Debut
02:42 Debut
03:45 A New Member
04:09 YTeen
04:42 The Secret
05:15 My Cosmic Diary
06:15 FromWJSN
07:25 Happy Moment
08:19 Dream Your Dream
09:09 Produce 101 China
11:29 WJMK
11:48 WJ Please?
12:41 WJ Stay?
13:45 For the Summer
14:13 As You Wish
15:42 The Pandemic
16:01 Neverland
16:23 Rocket Girls Disbands
16:45 WJSN Chocome
17:16 Unnatural
17:54 WJSN The Black
18:41 Supper Yuppers
19:01 Queendom
20:07 Sequence
20:37 The Car Accident
21:09 Uncertain Future
21:49 The Chinese Members
23:15 The Future
24:26 Mistakes in Management
29:02 A Look Back
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[UPDATES]
*_MARCH 13, 2023_*
Starship Entertainment clarified that Luda and Dawon have only parted ways with the agency and did not leave the group!
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[CORRECTION]
The viral "Love Shot" fancam was featuring member Seol-A, NOT Bona!
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[PRONUNCIATION]
We apologize for any wrong pronunciations of the names. We decided to use Korean pronunciation for all the 13 members.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
00:38 Companies
01:30 Pre-Debut
02:42 Debut
03:45 A New Member
04:09 YTeen
04:42 The Secret
05:15 My Cosmic Diary
06:15 FromWJSN
07:25 Happy Moment
08:19 Dream Your Dream
09:09 Produce 101 China
11:29 WJMK
11:48 WJ Please?
12:41 WJ Stay?
13:45 For the Summer
14:13 As You Wish
15:42 The Pandemic
16:01 Neverland
16:23 Rocket Girls Disbands
16:45 WJSN Chocome
17:16 Unnatural
17:54 WJSN The Black
18:41 Supper Yuppers
19:01 Queendom
20:07 Sequence
20:37 The Car Accident
21:09 Uncertain Future
21:49 The Chinese Members
23:15 The Future
24:26 Mistakes in Management
29:02 A Look Back
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there are actually two music videos for dreams come true, the other has 7.8 million! ruclips.net/video/IrircflFHzw/видео.html
Dream come true has 7.8M views
@@Wooshin_82719 Upvote on this, some of the MVs are uploaded on 1thek and WJSN's own channel.
Monsta x is not a 1 year old group plz pay attention in the future. Thank you
@@flaxsikare_forblink are you good? They meant when WJSN got started.they didn’t mean RIGHT NOW.. lmao
i must say i'm tearing up, they constantly talk about how they're in the middle, successful enough to not be called nugus and not sucessful enough to be called popular and that being a very awkward space to be in, i love them so badly and i only wish the best for the them
Yeah like they’re only popular in Korea and China
At least they're popular in their home country, rather than international only because I'm sure that's more meaningful to an artists and their ultimate goal
Atleast they are famous somewhere. Also being succesful in South Korea is beneficial on the long term as it gives more opportunities for a longer career. Like you can become an actor like Bona who starred in hit drama Twenty-Five Twenty-One. If you are sucessful internationally you will thrive as a group, but not much when the group is no longer a thing. Also more fame in Korea means more CFS that is crucial for girl group members income.
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore
@@vixxexo6855 yeah
@@vixxexo6855 But the biggest CF’s are the overseas ones. Blackpink is the best example, their biggest CFs are from international (foreign) brands like Dior etc… and they managed to get those international CF’s due to their massive international fandom, not Korean-only fandom. Even if BP disbands this year and the girls no longer wish to be celebrities, their net worth would be close to 16-18 million average per member. One can retire and lead a comfortable life on that.
"C-line didn't resign"
meanwhile the actual statement:
"The contracts with the Chinese members have been automatically terminated"
C-line never even got a choice to resign lol
a fun thing about the wj for wj please and wj stay is that it's pronounced as "wuju" (as in the 우주 in 우주소녀) or like "would you" in english (like their intro greeting, "would you like!"). so it can be a phrase like "would you please", "would you stay", while also referring to them as a group
Thank you for the addition, that's really cute!
Omg i didnt even know this!!
WJSN is definitely a functional group and I'm so happy to see them continue. Let's hope that they will be able to reach their full potential and be happy with their careers :)
Kpop needs stable groups like them. They are definitely successful and seeing their sound develop is great and they are amazing at what they do. As much as I love seeing groups rise to the very top with one or two great hits I think it's incredibly satisfying to see a beloved group winning over fans with every comeback and slowly build a loyal fanbase that can sustain them for many more years
I was actually surprised when I saw "Last Sequence" live performance, and there were many fans supporting them and moving their lightsticks
Everything that happen since then :
December : WJSN Season’s greetings ‘Recipe of Love’
January : SeolA Solo Debut : INSIDE OUT with the title track ‘Without U’
There has been no comeback since June 2022.
I'm surprised that Starship didn't try to make them queens of the new year after the success of As You Wish like they made summer the season of SISTAR. Starship should have gotten WJSN onto popular award shows and television shows so everyone knows its WJSN singing As You Wish.
It's hard to repeat the success for As You Wish. It's not they intentionally plan the song that way
I agree, around December and January they should be doing special performances of the song so the public knows about wjsn
EXACTLY like they should capitalize on the success, similar to how mariah carey goes all out on christmas to promote her song and it works
Guys just for your info
Meng meiqi also released her ep "love or not" with the title track mute surpassing 75million views on weibo and selling 1 million copies, she then returned in October of 2021 with the title track "suffering" and then again in november of 2022 with her 3rd ep "white frequency" and the title track "alien" and she has not released music since then.
luda also went viral for having a worse birthday live setup that streamers kept falling with ive having very professional ones .
Makes sense why she didn't renew her contract.
@@watashi5700 I thought the same
Dun make that as the excuse why she didnt renew the contract. All WJSN birthdays are set up by the members themselves; they never asked any staff to help them in anyway.
She already said she is still part of WJSN, but she wants to move on to another company because she wants to do new things other than being an idol and acting. It is rumoured that she left Starship as she wanted to go into an E-sports career.
@@salbenrosli707 So Luda will like I.M from Monsta X?
A random thing I heard is that both Soobin and Luda are part of a v-tuber? group named FE:VERSE
Keuang? is played by Luda while KimSerena is played by Soobin?
so much potential with these girls and starship failed to really max it out. but I’m glad they did what they did & I hope all members are happy with what they’re going to do now (the 8 who stayed but also the 5 who left)
did dawon and luda only leave starship or did they leave the group also?
@@scarlettdelgado3233 only sse, they can participate in wjsn activities if they want + soobin literally publically said wjsn is 10 :]
I have an insane amount of respect for these girls. Though they have never quite reached the stardom level of, say, Blackpink or Twice, they have stayed incredibly consistent, with a clear personality and concept in their music, good vocalists, a rapper who writes her own lyrics and even produces for other groups too now (we love you EXY), sub-units, a devoted fanbase, AND now most of the girls renewed their contract. I wish all of them nothing but the best for what's next.
Their music is good tbh.
Starship is one of those companies where the thing about new groups pushing out the older ones is way too real. Despite their size and status as a company, they have only four currently active groups, treated their first two groups as experiments, and are surprisingly incompetent. Things like having fake birthdays are a common occurrence in their groups apparently, and WJSN were sadly not their only group having inappropriate or dangerous staff members. China line were also their first foreign artists, with them previously only having Ten (yes, of NCT) as a trainee for a year previously. I hope the members that left can find happiness in a better place, and that the ones that stayed may be treated more fairly.
Starship losing Dawon is an amazing fuck up.
24:18 for anyone who’s curious, it was just announced today that dawon and luda will still she promoting with the group, but will not remain under starship!
We just added it to the pinned comment! Soo happy about the news! :)
They are my ult group ever since 2017 and I love them so much. Really sad about the new renewal news, as Dawon was one of my favourite members, but I am looking forward to what releases we do get from the group moving forward. WJSN are amazing and super talented and deserve so much more love and attention than they have receiced
“Starship Entertainment didn’t comment on the matter.” I’m sensing a pattern.
Yeah Boyfriend WJSN Cravity are and/or were neglected by Starship
And Monsta X, starship literally never defend or help them
I love WJSN, I’m a casual listener. But still. And I understand why Luda and Dawon left. After everything with Dawons health I understand why she would be over this lifestyle. And Luda was always forgotten about never given any spotlight and her birthday event on vlive was so sad. I understand why both of them decided to leave
@Bang me Chan And you know this how?
@@asareirene dont believe this person/troll, they be making up stories just to get ppl attention
It's not made up. I don't know about staff or if it was a repeated issue, but there is footage of her being touched inappropriately by a backup dancer during a performance.
The chinese trinity not returning actually was a relief. The wjsn korean members already suffered and suffer right now with bad promotion of group, mistreatment and solo activities and lack of good budget for mvs, lack of world tours etc. So imagine if the chinese trio wasnt managed by a chinese company and was by St rshp instead lmao....they would suffer lower payement, fewer schedules, not being able to see their families, like many foreigner idols suffer in midtier companies. I am glad the chinese trio is doing well in cdramas, variety and music in their homeland and thankful for what they did for WJSN when they were a full group🥺😭.
Now about the korean members, Yeonjung breaks my heart. She one of the most popular in the IOI/produce days, she has an angelical powerful vocal, and she isnt that talked or with buzz anymore on the mainstream of kpop. Like queendom stated, wjsn is that group the general public knows the songs but doesnt stan or even know if they are active or not. And other members like Bona and Dayoung, had recently been on hype bc of acting and variety, but barely promoted.
St rship only did well in promotion and management with IVE, for some reason(I love Ive but its sad this fact). Strshp flaws remind me of FNC, both have talented visual and versatile idols and they are often known by other thing except idol career 😭.
Btw, wjsn has a discography that ages so well. Even when they ditched the fantasy magic girls concept, the quality stayed! Like they had everything to be more known in 3rd generation, at least by side of GFRIEND, but the opportunities were missed.....
But lets be optimistic. Even if they stay in the "middle", they could last a long time like Apink, Snsd.
forgot to mention but recently luda and soobin won the kakao survival show girls:reverse and will be doing their debut as virtual idols with fe:verse in may.
Great video! I am hoping that StarShip treats the remaining members much better! There are lots of newer fans like myself who go into them through Queendom 2 that, along with older fans, who are eagerly awaiting the group’s next release. ❤
Thank you for watching, let's hope for a successful future & good management :)
Bruh why are they so ignored by their own company?? It's so nerve wrecking!
Just wanted to say thanks for making these videos! It is so interesting getting the full back story of these groups. WJSN's timeline is wild, and I truly hope the ladies are okay and happy.
Thank you very much for watching! ✨
man i forgot about some of the mistreatment they faced especially with seola’s aquaphobia like that angered me all over again and how overworked cheng xiao was + there were so many management mistakes
to me wjsn is 13, the members leaving is just because of scheduling conflict and and other issues but the members bond is still there.
their achievements surpass just numbers, they are amazing and have left their mark on the industry and i’m excited for their future no matter what happens.
thank you so much for making this video. there's something so special about wjsn - i ulted them like a few days after i started stanning them and they're one of those groups that is really easy to get into and love. their career makes me really sad sometimes - they never had a real breakthrough and the majority of the kpop community doesn't know much about them. on top of that, starship doesn't promote them properly, they got hate for winning queendom 2 (which is ridiculous as it's not like they made the decision). at the same time, though, i was so relieved that 8 renewed. in some ways, them being a small group is really amazing as well, because they do have creative input - exy helped write 'done' - and they have a really genuine bond that can be rare to find. unnie line, and especially exy, pretty much helped raise dayoung. exy and seola have been friends for over 15 years. exy's the reason bona moved to starship. and despite joining the group after debut, yeonjung really found her place in the group and stayed when she could've left. i hope that in their next chapter, they get the recognition they deserve
If I had to be their management staff or producer, I'd like to plan the whole universe about "Cosmic Girls". It's such a waste. Why did the company faking the birthday to fit into a zodiac concept but then it just stop there.
I'd like to make each MV a continuation like a drama, like how they were found, how they reach earth, what power did every member have, etc. The dreamy MV is really good tho, it's just so different from other group. I might make a mini stories or short movies just to fill the gap between each MV, to complete their "Cosmic" or "Zodiac" universe.
I do agree that the zodiac concept is a waste. It's unnecessary but at the time, this kind of concept thingy was popular. Plus, I'm actually happy they didn't do too many stuff, just look at Loona and their debts
2024 now; in 2023 we got zero activity from wjsn as a group, despite the promises. and they were completely excluded from starship activities. :( i hope we can see them in 2024
Honestly, you need to do a video on the following:
- Gugudan (this group had such a good concept and selection of title tracks, so their failure really bothers me even years after their disbandment)
- Gfriend (not an underrated group but their "disbandment" was forced, messy, and still heartbreaking. the fact that they didn't even want to separate and only did to pursue careers they weren't expecting to explore so soon speaks to how bad this really was)
- Pink Fantasy/Busters/Blackswan (this could be more like the BlingBling-Hot Issue-Lunarsolar video since Blackswan/Rania gets talked about alot, I think the conversation about lineup changes with varying companies is a good place to dive into)
- Saturday (literally the Momoland of nugu and I believe they are in a position I want to save them from, I let gugudan down I can't do it again TT)
I'm still not over gugudan. I don't get it, they were doing better and better each cb. Not that type was their best seller. They would've done great with that concept as that whens girl crush really hit it big. Like they could've been gidle level of popularity. I really don't understand
I would love a video on gugudan. The boots is literally my favourite kpop track of all time, and their story is heartbreaking. They had so much talent and were let down at every turn
@@neverneverland5836 for me, it's 'a girl like me' that song is one of the best kpop titles ever released
Gugudan aka the amazing Sejeong and friends.
@@neverneverland5836 yes, I love The Boots, a 96.7% Sejeong song. I love her.
I'm just so incredibly proud of how far they've come and i'm very very excited to see what they will show us in this new era. it's bittersweet that Luda and Dawon left, but i am really looking forward to their next steps. please continue to support them no matter what
I think cosmic girls would have been more popular if starship promoted them more in their later years as a group. I'm proud of them though as a fan and hopefully they'll keep giving us great music.
Wjsn was done dirty especially the Chinese members, only one comeback each year from 2020? Starship really dosent care, yuehua made most of the statements yet im not sure if they will continue to manage wjsn anymore
Yueha doesn’t manage them no more yet they don’t wanna admit it
WJSN: "We'll have THIRTEEN members!" TripleS: "Hold my beer"
24 😭😭
as a long term ujung, i am always sad that c line arent with us now. wjsn ot10 are super unique as individual and as a group but c line are also aa valuable! yue hua.... but memories with c line are always treasured
very well done video on wjsn! i never knew how storied their career was, especially over the years. this has only pushed me to look out for them as they start on their new journey this coming year ahead
Thank you very much!
I just started stanning them the day ludawon were announced to leave sse, tysm for this vid ❤
For the former Chinese members it was hard for them to return especially since both countries were against each other and Covid
I think each member representing a different zodiac is a cute idea but the fake birthdays thing is so weird, like they don’t need to have a fake birthday to represent a zodiac sign??
Esperaba tanto este video, me encanto. Espero y les valla bien a las chicas, y al grupo 😊
this is the video I was more excited about!! Thank you for your good work as always ❤️
Thank you so much for watching! ❤️
I just want to take a moment and say thank you. These videos are always so well put together, and always do such a wonderful job informing and highlighting these lesser known groups.
Thank you very much, it means a lot to us! ❤️
I've been into Kpop for a while now...like 13-14 years and to me, WJSN is such a strong group (they give me SNSD vibes). Each member is basically the K-pop triple threat, ie, each member has the vocals (Exy is a boss rapper and don't get me started on Yeonjung, Dawon, Soobin, Seola and Dayoung (who is one of the craziest people I think to exist on this planet) as one of the best vocal lines in Kpop right now), the variety sense (they are all loveable clowns but Luda...Luda scares me with how crazy she is and the out-of-pocket statements that come out of her mouth 😂😂😂) and the acting prowess (especially Bona in 25,21 and Yeonjung and Soobin in their plays all the members who've acted thus far in anything are actually really strong in their roles). Yeoreum is such a talented dancer and an absolute cutie. Plus, they have such a beautiful group dynamic (they seem to genuinely enjoy being with each other) and one of the most diverse discographies out there. No two songs sound exactly the same for them (Exy is such a talented producer). I know that they may not be commercially successful right now but I truly believe that one day the rest of the world will wake up to the reality that Ujungs already know. I'm not too worried though, because they definitely have what it takes to maintain a successful and meaningful long-term career. I think that's more important. Much of pop culture today is so cookie-cutter and feels artificially flavoured but for me, WJSN is like a rustic, hearty meal. Complex, diverse and with a depth that truly makes the experience worthwhile. They've all got such beautiful personalities (now I dont know them personally but their genuineness shines through) and will be in the industry and continue to excel for a long while. They can only go up. (Also, side note, Eunseo, you beautiful, handsome, caring, gorgeous human being, my bias is Yeonjung but, you can, if you want to, run me over with a city bus).
Thank you so much for making the recap about WJSN's journey in this video.
A lot of things we should know about WJSN, they have showcased much great efforts and performances and we as Ujungs really proud for them, but sadly the companies not too serious to manage them. Wishing only the best for them in future.
Let I give some corrections and additional info beside the explanation which we got here:
- 5:18 My Cosmic Diary were been released on June 2016, and it's been aired by MNet, not MBC.
- 8:24 Their forth mini album Dream Your Dream was released on February 27th, 2018, not in January.
Great video, thank you again for this. ❤️
As a KARA fan, I started stanning WJSN also recently. Still, after learning their history it's breaking my heart that WJSN as in not managed by the company and was treated like a stepchild when IVE got debuted and gained famous instantly. Still, they take care of themselves as a group and remain solid, this is the same with the history of KARA as well.
I admire their strong mental for still sane after getting abused by their company, forcing the member to go in the pool despite her aquaphobia, using laxatives for diet is pretty much fu*cked up and members have to hide their phones just order food 😭😭
as a KAMILIA and UJUNG I wish they could come back strong as ever before and their queendom expanding more and more.
thank you thank you thank you ngl i’m in tears rn
i just wanted to let you know that how much i appreciate ur video as a ‘not quite fresh’ ujung
it’s like taking a trip down memory lane, despite not every step of wjsn being flower-covered
the decent pertinent details given in here is just rare, and i must say this profile even regarding their future and with newest updates about our situation and continuing as a unchanged 10-member group is one very rarely well said video
i’m lost for words, just simply thank you
We're very glad & touched you liked the video - let's cheer on WJSN in the future together! ❤️
they have one of the best discography in kpop!
For me they are the most underrated kpop girl group of all time..❤
something to note with the MV views is that 1thek and starshipTV youtube channels both have different amounts of views? would probably be best to combine the views or just going off the starshipTV views alone would be a bit helpful
good stuff regardless though, thank you for compiling all this
Thank you for the mention, we should've done more research on this aspect! RUclips often only shows 1theK videos when searching for MVS, well be more cautious in the future!
Great work! Thanks for this much needed educational WJSN bibliography. Only the best of you, to each I follow, would be able to pull this off. I'm sure current, baby, and future Ujungs love it. I would include non-Ujungs, but I'm sure anyone that watches this would become a baby Ujung. 😁
I love how they've grown organically as the years progressed defying any 7th year numbers of any other groups. It would be business suicide and flat out stupidity for SSE to re-align resources away from them given their trends because, even IVE's, success isn't promised--especially given how competitive 4th Gen and industry, as a whole, is.
Let's hope and pray they're with us for many years to come. That can only be with the support from we (and future) Ujungs. I can't imagine a world w/o them and don't think anyone else can fill their shoes as long as they don't conspire to hide them (Bona fansign reference).
Thank you very very much, it means a lot to us! :)
SO EXCITED TO WATCH !!
Same
They're one of my favourite girl groups
Yay, thank you for doing a video on WJSN! They have one of the best discographies in all of Kpop in my opinion💕
Thank you for watching! We agree ✨
I found wj please in the summer of 2021 and later on super yuppers solidified that love for me! And thankfully I was able to see them at kcon later that year! I hope they’re able to have more releases soon. I think they’re just so special
I missed your videos!! Finally your back
Also i had idea that maybe you can do Glam, Exid or Hello Venus someday
Thank you very much for watching! We'll consider them, thank you! :)
I love them sm i wish starship have them more consistent comebacks cause lately it’s been lackluster
Excellent video!! ❤
sse wasted the following:
1. the hype of wjsn on their queendom win
2. they made units during debut (wonder, joy, sweet, natural) but never used or utilized properly. they did chocome and black tho but they could've utilized the original units made.
3. the chinese members
4. wjsn as a whole.
Because they didn't deserve to win qd and starship knew it
And Yeoreum's hype on Queendom Puzzle! She's currently promoting as the leader of EL7Z UP. The other members are Kei, Yeeun, Yeonhee (Rocket Punch), Nana (woo!ah!), Hwiseo (H1-KEY) and Yuki (PURPLE KISS)
i felt bad for the chinese members 😭
I would love to see you talk about Oh My Girl, since they renewed their contract, except for Jiho, but have not been active for quite some time :(
honestly despite dawon being my bias im glad shes cutting ties w the company... They've always managed them badly and often in inappropiate and creepy ways, I just hope the other members will be fine
Xuanyi was my favorite member everytime I saw her with the rest of members after 2018 would give me hope she and the other Chinese members would return it's really sad to see them go and not be mentioned until years later with their contracts ending
Thank you so much for making this. This video felt so short for me but if I wish for it to be longer and include all their 7 yrs history, then I bet it's gonna be a whole documentary 😅. This was very informative especially to baby ujungs and even non fans to get to know wjsn and the hardships they experienced to get were they are right now just with the help of their fans and themselves.
Starshit and YH are bullshits!!!! 🤬
Here's my take. I liked the company's idea of introducing the members in unit. That way the fans that time would not be overwhelmed with the number of members in the group and also for the fans to easily distinguish them.
BUT THAT'S IT!! They just introduced them in unit and that's it. I really thought before that through those units, they would release in units some song and dance covers then the company and fans would make it go viral for them to be known in general public and gain more fans. But they wasted that idea and opportunity ffs.
Thank you very much for watching! We tried to include the most important steps in their career & it's actually our longest video to date!
And we agree, the unit introductions were kind of wasted :/
The one thing that always concerned me, was an episode of them either doing recordings or filming the music video in the cold. And showcased their dormitory, they had to ask their manager or ceo jokingly to feed them more. :(
I was annoyed by the chinese members departure. It was obvious from the start since they were managed by Yueha that they weren't truely in the group like the korean members and it was more like a "loan", like how football players are loaned out to other teams to get experience. The chinese members were always going to depart early eventually but Starship didn't communicate this so it looked like the chinese members just fled (like the chinese EXO members) so it caused bad feelings to korean fans. That's part of the reason korean fans don't want chinese members in kpop anymore because whats the point in getting attached to idols then they just go back to China after 3 years?
Many Korean fans are just racist against Chinese people though, and that's still very much present to this day.
Yeah it’s sad how sometimes you can tell some chinese idols are just biding time for their next big thing and they’re just dipping their toes in kpop as a stepping stone. I understand their decisions for career advancement but I can also understand why companies hesitate to take in chinese trainees bc it’s a gamble and why fans are wary of chinese members thinking that they will leave the group eventually
As Ujung from 2016 i understand what you said in Video and YEAH since Starship losing Sistar they really promoting WJSN and Monsta X but in FINALLY Monsta X gaining more popularity than WJSN
Why Monsta X can release more album than WJSN? cause they are self producing Idol, they can make and producing songs together
For some bad communications it Starship stereotype, they doing same too to IVE recently when Wonyoung get lot of hate comment since debut in 2021
Also for diet, Starship is worsely for their Girlgroup not only WJSN but IVE too
Wonyoung has been bullied by haters cause of her height and it makes her so insecure to Food
Why WJSN only release 1 album since 2020? It cause Starship forcing them for Solo Project not as group again
But this is sad to me when their Boygroup actively promoting but not for WJSN
For fake Birthday cases, not only WJSN, i heard B1A4 agencies doing this too to follow the concept
So Starship and WM had some problem with this
For C-Line i think cause Yuehua cut the relationship with Starship but this is nonsense, right?
And sadly never making their Japanese debut or Japanese Tour, it makes WJSN name in overseas being forgotten
And before IVE there is no Starship Girlgroup debuting in Japan
As Ujung i'm only hope WJSN popularity never faded although this is 4th Generation era
Mistreatment from Starship in past i hope not happen to CRAVITY and IVE
I really fear IVE get some bad treatment after their BOOM in 2021-2022
And FYI, Soobin and Luda will redebut as Virtual Idol named Kim Serena and Keuang this May as member of FE:VERSE
I’ve been a fan of WJSN since debut, I grew to love them all, my bias is yeonjung (mainly cause she looks like me) but I love them all!!!
2:43
Why do they all have the same hair color?
I am somewhat of a new fan. I discovered this group back in 2020. My first favorite song that I discovered them by was secret, and I’ve been obsessed since. My main problem other than not being able to fully sing the songs is that I have a very hard time telling the girls apart. I just wanted to know if that was intentional (by the company or agency they work for)
I enjoyed that! But I cried towards the end.
Its a shame that now with IVE starship will give their less and less and probably the members will be going in their individual schedules only...Luds and Dawon leaving don't surprise me since they were both VERY neglected and Dawon health isn't the best rn. I just hope the 8 remaining members can get the proper care and attention since WJSN is a famous group, even people who arent ujungs now them since their songs and aesthetic are very etheral and memorable
no way people said luda is neglected when she probably have nonstop schedule especially since queendom ends.
@@bedry6512 F’real
@@gwenmloveskpopandmore i mean since queendom end she's permanent cast in kbs boss pet with banggu, then after the show end she got in girls reverse, and after this end she still gonna have her webdrama release soon and she even sing the ost too. and she still has some guest appearances in other shows too and also her chocome schedule.
yea. "VERY neglected"
@@bedry6512 yeah but we all gotta know the group is neglected as a whole cuz of Ive
I'm hoping the steam they've gathered will help them overcome SSE's realignment of resources focus to IVE. I'm sure we'll have them for a while, but not at the capacity we've had for the past couple of years. I suspect they'll slowly evolve into an Apink or 소녀시대, but I hope they're more active with the current members. Let's help/pray SSE sees their value, given our support, to help them organically grow and mature themselves w/the industry.
it’s always a good day when searchingforelris posts
thank you for the support! ❤️
I love WJSN and i love their musical concept, tho by this case as well, people may not like the music concept here. Imo their concept is like the old japanese genre, City Pop. And as i know them after Mamamoo, which both have great foundation as singers, i really wish WJSN will stay strong as one of the rare concepts. And if compared with newer gg of ss, it's old vs new music concept. In example, WJSN songs are great for relaxing, studying or sleeping while IVE songs are for doing active things. If asked about visual of course WJSN have more variety, more concept & more stable. Starship really should give them more chances, more activity. Or just let them doing solo/units, whether it's acting, modeling, singing or producing songs for themselves or for others.
In the recent VR Idols & their lack of activity, i really sad & also happy that few of them join in. With Luda really not resign with them & Dawon with her previous cases and her ninja-like aura of "you may don't see me, but i can slay" doesn't resign as well. Hope for the best for WJSN and Luda & Dawon in the recent & future~
My bias Eunseo, Soobin, Luda, Yeonjung.
They are very talented group they r being wasted by the company 🤧💫
Ive loved them ever since that bicycle kick lol they work so hard but its always been them versus twice.
WJSN also gained some fame after Dayoung appeared in the kdrama True beauty.
Well done. ❤
Aaaa tem legenda agora, obg pra quem legendou💜
I just realized something you didn’t mention (probably because barely no one knew about it) so about that repackage after happy moment. It actually turned about to be just a single called “Kiss Me” released on July 14, 2017 but they didn’t promote it anywhere and it’s not even apart of their Wikipedia bio. Just a little fun fact ☺️
It wasn’t a single. It was a commercial song/film. That’s why they really didn’t promote it. It was for a mascara ad.
They have really good discography, most of their songs is popular too. But they're yet receive the recognition they should.
thank you for this video ! from an ujung
Thank you for watching!
you should count views of mvs posted on 1thek and starshiptv
I love this channel. A simple comment
Thank you very much!
i love wjsn saurrrr much
They have yeonjung and exy and they are still underated i really want them to be more popular(im not shading the other members)
this video makes me wanna try stanning them again.. i love their music so much. these girls are amazing.
Nice vid
I love you using the korean names for the members but please do the same for the albums next time, DobleW Jay Stay ? was actually pronounced Would You stay?... It was a wordplay. Anyways. I love your videos😻😍💯
Thank you! And yes, we were told this after we published the video - no idea how we didn't notice, it's so obvious 😭🥹
@@searchingforelris Is okay, I also didn't notices until one of the press conferences😂 Konglish, Am I right?😍😅
Hopefully they will have asian tour.
Waiting to see them
Alice? Here I am!
Thank you for that.
I hope the Chinese members acknowledge the other members someday
My faves 😭
I just hope Starship doesn't pull an SM and renew the 8 members' contracts and only giving them 1 comeback, if that, during the full 3 years.
That'd be awesome
13:33 that's seola's fancam and not bona
Thank you, we already corrected it in the pinned comment! :)
It’s sad because Ot13 would really push through if the pandemic did not happen, the China-Korea relations did not become ugly and this could regain more fans and even push WJSN in China.
imo starship's obsession with insane solo promotions didn't really help that much to promote wjsn as a whole group, this was the same issue that monsta x faced during their earlier years because sse was only pushing 1 or 2 members to the public so the GP would only know the individual member and not the group they are in. it is never too late to agressively promote wjsn as a whole again, the girls are still relatively young and they can still reach a new peak. (by agressive promoting i don't mean a sudden influx with comebacks, sse just has to intensively promote their comebacks from radio shows to variety shows which helps in giving the song recognition)
also since the difference in albums between monsta x and wjsn were mentioned, it is important to note that after sistar disbanded in 2017 sse was in a limbo financially thus resulting to the sudden influx of albums that monsta x were releasing, from 2 comebacks average in 2015 and 2016 to 4 or 5 comebacks from 2017 to 2021. the guys were vocal about how sse are overworking them and this issue wasn't really resolved until they negotiated for their contracts. hopefully that new ceo they hired last year would actually put shidae back to his senses that overworking isn't a good thing nor is underworking beneficial. (wjsn's next comeback should definitely be a full album now though, let the songs made by the girls see the light!)
Wjsn not in weverse, where i can watch them live?
No wonder WJSN and Cravity are/have been neglected by StarShip. Ofc Boyfriend was the company’s 1st group to ever neglect before WJSN even debuted.
What about Wonho and I.M?
Why I.M leaving Starship?
@@medyvirzean442 please, don't get me started on how they threw Wonho under the bus...
@@mariadiallo5786 Seriously?
Wonho has bullied by Monsta X member before he OUT?
@@medyvirzean442 I'm talking about the company. Instead of protecting him from the fake accusations, they just ousted him from the group. The remaining members were also heavily criticized whenever they interacted with him.
The company did MX dirty on multiple occasions, not just on Wonho's exit
@@mariadiallo5786 So they also mistreating Monsta X too?
What about CRAVITY and IVE?
Are this 2 group had some mistreatment too?
WJSN is full of beautiful visuals, talented vocalists rapper and dancers, an amazing discography and a member from IOI
Their title tracks are always very cohesive and have very high production except when it matters the most
Fuck Starship for giving them everything and then messing up with their debut and first full album
Like you can’t choose any other moment to be incompetent except when it mattered the most
Oh my god it is so frustrating
I quite like Happy and Momomo but as the first album title and debut
They just aren’t enough
Just couldnt get the ive info into it
Pls do gwsn next❤
anyways guys go stream la la love
난 너무 화가나과 흔들었다 때문에 우린 언제나 유지하게 잊은 때문에 너
ik this is off topic but can u also discuss/talk about loona in ur next videos if you want to ^^