What does "Foreknew" and "Predestined" mean in Romans

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Romans 8:28-30 ESV
    28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
    29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
    30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
    Foreknew doesn’t mean that God knew what was going to happen or who was going to do what or even the character of each person who didn’t exist yet (even if he does, that's not what the word means in this passage). It’s talking about God’s established relationship with those whom he has determined to conform into the image of his Son. "Foreknew" should be translated as "already knows".
    Predestined doesn't mean that God decided from before Creation that Joe was going to Hell and John was going to Heaven. It means that God made a plan to transform all who would believe in Yeshua into living images of Yeshua.
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Комментарии • 9

  • @apreju7298
    @apreju7298 5 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent and clear word. Thank you!

  • @g-manthenurseman7532
    @g-manthenurseman7532 5 месяцев назад

    Amen!

  • @nicholasmcgee947
    @nicholasmcgee947 5 месяцев назад +2

    Can you do a video about the same topic, but in Romans 9? Im seeking a better understanding on this topic.

    • @AmericanTorah
      @AmericanTorah  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Nicholas. I'm leading a study on Romans at CommonSenseBibleStudy.com . We'll start on Romans 9:8 tonight at 7 PM Central if you're interested. I've been posting videos here after we cover the same passage at CSBS.

  • @timkooper
    @timkooper 3 месяца назад +1

    Same group as ephisians 1.
    Theres a condition to being predestined and get all these other promises. Its trusting in Christ.
    5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
    6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
    7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
    8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
    9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
    10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
    11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
    12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
    Who FIRST trusted in Christ

  • @Crowns-surround_mi21
    @Crowns-surround_mi21 5 месяцев назад

    QUESTIONS @AmericanTorah;
    1. a.) What does ETERNAL CONDEMNATION mean?
    b.) Could it be that the person will not resurrect?
    c.) Could it be that the person will not be in the new Jerusalem, His kingdom of 1000yrs?
    What does that really mean?

    • @AmericanTorah
      @AmericanTorah  5 месяцев назад +1

      A couple of years ago, I wrote a few articles on what happens after you die. I think they'll help answer your questions: www.americantorah.com/2021/11/23/all-about-the-afterlife/

  • @Alice-vc3hj
    @Alice-vc3hj 5 месяцев назад

    To know in advance. ????

    • @AmericanTorah
      @AmericanTorah  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! But what is being known? I'll be curious to read your thoughts after you watch the video.