Getting Inside A Tissot Chronograph
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Many quartz chronos have an alignment mode where you can reposition the hands if they become out of sync. Usually this is done by some combination of pulling the crown out and using the pushers. It may not have been necessary to disassemble it.
It works to move the hand by a full second indicated per step, you can't adjust for a fraction of second unfortunately :(
I have a Luminox that adjusts in half seconds. I think it to do with the fact it moves in half second increments
@@georgegherghinescu that depends on the watch.
@@brettclark8020you are right, some japan movements I think can be adjusted that way. The ETA G10 that this nice Tissot uses I think unfortunately not. Edit: not in fractions of a second. Second by second yes, you are right.
Theres a hand removal tool, and also "hand levers". Basically two tiny prybars.
You protect the face with plastic and then lever the hands off.
You're right. This I know because I watch the "Wrist Watch Revival" channel, and every one of his videos starts out by removing the hands as you said.
My Casio solar watch has a function where I can realign the minute hand. It also calibrates the analog watch with the digital display. Strong vibration or strong magnets can affect the function of the minute hand, which ticks every 20 seconds.
It's awesome to have a watch that never needed the battery replaced. I had this watch for ten or more years now still running on the original rechargeable battery.
Before I got one of those same presses I made tools from different sizes of PVC pipe to get enough pressure on watch backs to close them after changing batteries. It's not really about the pressure, it's being able to apply it while keeping the back aligned flat with the watch and not press on one side more than another. You can get fairly cheap kits with all the tools to work on watches that would have good fine point tweezers, extra small screwdrivers, and a hand puller. Also nice to have one of those blocks that you clamp the movement into while working on it, most kits come with those, don't want to be fumbling with the movement while messing with the hands and scratch the face. There is also the trick where you put a sheet of plastic over the hands and face and use tiny pry bars to remove the hands.
Being from Illinois and having one that was my grandfather's that works fathfully after a pro cleaning, I can say those Illinois watches were built to last.
Built to last, maybe, but not _too_ well built, as you can see: markings all over the place, irregularly spaced... so yeah, for watches, I'll stick with the Helvetians, thank you. 👍
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Literally have no clue what you are even on about. In fact, the dial print is well-centered on that Illinois and so is even the brazed sub-seconds plate, both of which were commonly a bit off on watches from the era in general. Only the branding label is slightly off. Now I checked a thing, on my chronometre grade 30's Helvetia the "Chronometre Helvetia" label is also visibly off-centre to the left as well. Not a surprise at all, again common things for the period and if you knew how those were made you'd also understand why.
@@AnEntropyFan no decent quality watch will have anything visibly off by eye, ever
@@AnEntropyFanhold on- guys what the hell are you talking about??? These were painted by hand no shit they are gonna be off. The illinois labelling is particularly bad though.
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They were not painted by hand, at least not typically at this point. They were hot transfers of enamel paint from a dial "master" engraving using the dial copying machine (basically a press with a rubber head that has two positions, one at which it will pick up the heated enamel paint and the other at which it will press it onto a dial blank). Now, these dial printing/copying machines were manually operated and each dial needed to be aligned, whether with the help of a jig of varying degrees of accuracy or entirely by eye. Which is why it's not reasonable to expect them to be as perfect as either the 100K watch's hand painted dial or a modern dial CNC machining/print/stamp process. Now, the branding stamps were quite often done separately, so imagine the same process but instead aiming the entire dial layout with a lot of reference points you are aiming this little name plate thing. So, the Illinois labeling isn't really particularly bad, all things considered.
Go on, you know that second hand it is going to drive you crazy, so get the hand-puller! You know it makes sense. 😏
These ETA movements that Tissot use are nice but when the second hand consistently misses the mark like that a hand reset is what you need. Or, rotate the dial 3 degrees 😀 But they have mechanical innards too that need lubrication just like mechanical watches and they disassemble quite easily. What they don't do is *assemble* easily. I have one one my bench right now and I need to order titanium tweezers as the servos are magnetic and normal tweezers are steel 🙂
One last thing Fran, please use finger cots or nitrile gloves when handling watch insides - finger prints cause corrosion and staining that never comes off, especially on the dial (which cannot be cleaned)
I’ve reached a point in my life where I simply ‘must’ finish every task I start…so my advice is get on the net and order that tool…without delay. Because if I delay I know I’ll never get it done! Hope that helps, Rob
To remove hands you can get by with a cheap "presto tool" (use plastic to protect the dial). To place the hands you can find cheap handheld tools to assist (magnification will help when placing the second hand!). I don't know what tools you already have, but a cheap "watchmaker's starter kit" could be a good option (including a spring bar tool, case opening tools, bracelet sizing tools, hand removal & installation tools, etc.) The included tools may not be of the highest quality available, but unless you find a much crappier kit than I did, they _will_ serve you. Anyway it's a cool watch IMO and I like Tissot.
You need to view a few watch repair videos first and get the right tool. If you scratch the dial it will annoy you more, LOL
I've never seen a Tissot of that size! looks more like a pocket watch. Get the tool for the job: it's only 6$ Amazon for a simple pronged lever tool, or 12$ for a proper puller that grips a hand while it is extracted, and comes with a mini press tool for replacing the hand.
Interesting, looks like it was maybe designed to also be able to use in a smaller case..?? did they ever make a smaller version of this?
Those little parts made me very anxious...but on another note, it brought back memories of my tritium powered alarm clock (wind up) that I had as a kid.
Your pry bar is a hand remover. If you put the crown back and advance the hands to 12 o clock you can use your ‘ pry bar’ or preferably two of them to remove the hands (all of them). Use a bit of flexible clear plastic sheet over the dial so as not to scratch it and then put them all back in the right place.
You can do that with your watch.
Not me spending 20 minutes in the store looking for the wall clock whose second hand is best-aligned with the dial.
Lovely watch. I was thinking you'd be discombobulating it further but that would be pretty risky, haha!
I wonder if you use that press for crimping the IDCs :)
As it’s just a tiny bit out use the force from the stepper to ‘nudge’ it. Without a tool you can also pick it up with tweezers. Stay central and it will pop off 😊
I really enjoyed this video. Thanks.
Wish I knew about those watch presses six months ago. I shattered a watch face changing the battery because I had the same issue getting the back closed up. Fortunately it was a cheap watch from Target, not one of my good ones. I will definitely be investing in one before I think about touching my good Bulovas. 😅
Ziplock bag over the face. 2 small chunks of circuit board to use as fulcrums for 2 fine flat screwdrivers either side of the hand spindle. this will plip it off safely.
Use that technique on your own watch.
14:56 _"thanks for _*_watching_*_ "_
I see what you did there... ( o.o)
Maybe not in this situation, for some meters and gauges you can hold the position with a pointed pin in the center of the shaft dimple while you nudge the hand in alignment. Last time I saw this method was with a sphygmomanometer (I think...) , a totally different type of device.
When you first pulled out that press I thought you were going to say it was a letter embosser that you'd repurposed.
I wouldn't work on Tissot with anything less than a 1.5k ohm 1/8th watt resistor. ha ha hehe! good video Fran!
good video, order the tool to get it working like you want or take it to a repair shop
Hahaha I have the same disturbance for a second hand not being straight above the minute marks!🤣
Steinhart makes an inexpensive mechanical automatic ( valjioux 7750) aviation watch like you got there for under 1000.00. But it has a really low water resistance rating like 3 atm which means no swimming with it no shower or bath. For alittle more….LIV watches make a nice aviation automatic ( valjioux 7750) for 1500.00 .
I have got Tissot watch too. My question would be ... Fran what do you think, how many openings and closing can that red gasket (O-Ring) last? I fear I have to replace my battery soon.
Your so clever & smart
The second hand moving between the hash marks seems like it makes it easier to see.
From a human user interface perspective, prioritizing contrast, wouldn't one want the second hand to stop slightly offset of the second markings?
I don't suppose the @WristWatchRevival channel is anywhere close to you? Though he uses teeny-tiny bent screwdrivers with an indent to carefully pry off the hands.
That won't work for this seconds hand, it is on there pretty good. The special tool cradles under the hand and pushes off from pads on the dial face for leverage.
Those are actually special hand removing levers. One can generally get underneath all three hand hands and pop them off in one shot. They're like 15 bucks so not a huge investment. The problem is, once you get them off you have to get them back on and there's a special tool for that too. And you may as well get some nice tweezers to make life easier...and one of those little pads to hold the movement still while you're working on it...and some nice screwdrivers etc. Next thing you know you have a whole new hobby because your second hand was out out of alignment. In my case it was because my Seiko was running a little slow.
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Would vote for the lever tool as well. A sub-seconds hand like that can't really be on all that tight, because you'll very quickly end up with the sheering force for the thin and tiny hand being smaller than whatever is the friction force. Now, I've encountered some very specific designs that have a staked minute hand (since it mechanically transfers power to a different part of the movement) and those will come off with the levers just fine.
The grabby hand tool has always looked like a gimmick to me, plus you can control the positioning and the distribution of force with the hand levers. Sometimes the more expensive tool is just one of those telemarketing tomato slicers, if you know what you're doing a decent knife is always better.
@alfredklek... u r so right! Dammit! Now restoring really old stuff and fixing everyones' watches...
Is it just me, or does the sweep second hand look slightly bent? If you move it over the tics do they line up exactly? I suspect if you use the full length of the hand to "unbend" it it may line more at the tic as well as with the tic.
Just you.
Horologists would be horrified! ⏱️
Can you recommend a good shop that sells pocket watches like that Illinois?
Buy an old watch that you like, then take it to a horologist for a full restoration.
@@FranLab Thank you!
Ali Express is your friend for a Hand puller (:
Nope. I don't go there...
@@FranLab (:
Maximum chuff
You do not need to pull off the hands to correct misalignment. Pull out the crown to different positions and press the buttons to re-align the hands as necessary.
You're the expert.
Why can't you just use your finger nails to pull off the second hand. Turn both hands so your palms are facing up and hook the nails of your index or middle fingers under the second hand and contract your fingers (makes a W) to pull it up. I use my finger nails as tools for lots of things.
A quartz watch, shame on you!!!! Automatic is the only way to go, you should ashamed of yourself !!
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