All the bands in this doc represent the TRUE definition of “alt-metal”. Thinking outside the box, not a bunch of bands all doing the same thing to get on the radio.
these guys are talking my language. Living in England i was loosing faith in alternative music. I've recommended a few of these bands to my friends and it's expanded their lives. I like the genreless it is what music should be about reacting with the moment.
Julie Christmas works with John Lamacchia (Candiria-Spylacopa) from time to time. She has some stuff on his label "Rising Pulse". It would be cool to see some stuff with him also.
Still hurts my heart so much when I see Caleb speak or even hear his vocals in a lot of Cave In/OMG and Zozobra stuff... I don’t think that one will ever heal
"You'll never find an ISIS song on a 30 second commercial." Ronda Rousey vs Meisha Tate UFC number whateverthefuck used Weight by ISIS in the promo commercial. AHAAA!
Can someone please identify the song playing after the Thrones clip, starting at 1:24:45? The song with the fast ride cymbal and snare drum work, and it goes until 1:25:24
KayinState yea dude that took me by surprise and I was like fuck I’ve been pronouncing his name wrong for years now.. ha shit. Never heard anyone pronounce it correctly
i miss some very important british bands, like mahumodo or *shels, or generally bands from the surroundings of shelsmusic (i'm also thinking fall of efrafa or light bearer). i guess the creators of this film didn't have the means to venture over the atlantic. but still, would've been nice. anyway, awesome documentary!
saw art by Will Schaff , but no credit.. 1:03 roughly . seems weird for a film like this to not credit a working artist for use of his/her image. silently listening
It's weird. Part of me feels as though I've heard the progressions and structures somewhere before, but I know that I haven't. I have to echo ej7f and refer to the "collective unconscious".
Unfortunately for metal, the best albums usually are made when the people making it have really shitty lives, or shit happening to them. This didn't use to be the case with Heavy Metal bands like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Rush etc... because it's more groove based. But what we now call post metal, or industrial metal, things like Neurosis, Isis, Godflesh, is raw emotions, suffering and rage mainly. A good example is Strapping Young Lad, with all Devin's rage in an album like City. Then his life got better, he didn't feel so bad, and simply didn't do SYL anymore. To me that's what happened to Neurosis, Isis and Broadrick. Their music got recognized, their lives got better. I don't want to say their music quality declined because their new albums are still critically aclaimed, but for people like me, looking for pure raw emotions, it's not the same. It's been diluted, it's more about the melodies and sound, not the rage anymore. We will never have a second "Enemy of the sun" or "Through Silver in Blood". There won't be another "City" or another "Pure". The Godflesh comeback is just horrible, with that double bass, and way too low 8 string guitar, it's bland, it doesn't work. Pelican and Isis went the same way: their first albums were really heavy and on the edge. Not violent, just emotionally heavy. And they drifted into gooey, loving and caring post rock or something, it was horrible to see. Bands like Cult of Luna, Gojira, or Mastodon went the same way, with clean vocals, big production, mainstream stuff. So now it's all about finding that "new" band that just started and still has that red burning fire of pure suffering and rage in them. At the moment, there's This Gift is A Curse from Sweden, it's like Neurosis on steroids. I also felt that fire in the last Correction House, in which Scott Kelly plays. I can't understand why but I'm finding some of the old Neurosis in Correction House, while the old Neurosis has disappeared since "Given to the Rising".
Well the thing is I hate Crack the Skye, the clean vocals are awful. Neurosis is my favorite band, but their shift started with Times of Grace, not Through Silver in Blood which is part of a trilogy of albums of similar style with Souls at Zero and Enemy of the Sun. Isis transition was with Panopticon and I didn't like it. I thought it was very mellow and gooey post rock. And Mars To Sirius was when I lost interest with Gojira. To me, Terra Incognita is still an amazing piece of Death Metal. But when they turned to mainstream metal with clean vocals and that green political message and white whales in space on the cover... no thank you. I don't know of one single band who went from raw and powerful to mellow and melodic that was constant in quality throughout. I think Neurosis' A sun that never set is great, so was The Eye of Every Storm. But the following 3 albums are not very good, I've stopped listening to them a while ago. It's all natural: you puke your guts in your music, you lay out all your emotions. The public loves it, the critics especially love it. So you feel better about yourself, your life (usually) gets better, and you don't have those emotions anymore, your music isn't as violent and powerful as it used to be. It can be the opposite outside metal. Like Bob Dylan started with very emotional folk songs, before his electric period which I don't like: less dark, less interesting. But in metal, it's very difficult to maintain that level of intensity all the time. It's easier in some styles of music, where you don't write songs close to your heart, just fun songs. Like in death metal, grindcore etc... Bands like Napalm Death or Immolation have been going on for decades now. But Neurosis and Isis, and other post-hardcore bands such as Cult of Luna had such an energy that it was bound to disappear with time. Neurosis concerts are now quite disappointing compared to what they used to be, and Isis ended their carreer with a truly awful album, it was pathetic.
Can only be mad at the world and say the same things so many times man. I completely understand what you’re saying but I look at it as a progression, or evolution of these people and their music, and maybe I’m biased because I like newer Mastodon, and I love every single ISIS record. But yea all subjective and in my opinion
Well I hate to break it to you, but artists are humans, and humans evolve, and the evolution is reflected in their art. Peoples understanding of the world changes, their perspective changes, they accrue more experience, and they draw from a wellspring of emotion far beyond just rage and darkness. Sorry, we can’t all stay 17 forever.
i like most everything except the black empire dudes i don't know why it's just something i wasn't feel even their other stuff. i feel like a bummer because of it.
Listen to Luciferian Towers by Godspeed especially Bosses Hang. This is real music, not the processed commercial products of pop and rap. We're all still waiting for this shit to crash
@@azaz... It's Old Man Gloom's 1-track epic album Zozobra. The bit at the end is somewhere around the middle part. ruclips.net/video/EjG_E8I5trI/видео.html
What a misleading and bizarrely disjointed documentary. If you are going to make a documentary about DIY/independent music culture, then start by explaining this theme and giving lots of examples (different musical genres) before focusing on a bunch of underground metal bands and metal labels in a way that only folks interested in those bands and labels could appreciate. Those Aquarius Records guys could have given over a dozen examples of hidden music cultures, including punk, psychedelic, experimental, and underground metal. Five minutes into the video, I stopped watching because it was all like a commercial for the Hydra Head label. I wonder how many people have been tricked into watching this by the title's suggestion that it's simply about contemporary DIY music?
what an incredibly unfortunate thing that you only got through 5 minutes of it before you formed your opinion on a piece that is an hour and a half long, and filled with so many different things. if you took your head out of your ass for a few minutes, you would find different record labels being represented.
The first five minutes proved that this video (no matter how long it is) wasn't going to be worth my time. I was correct to say it is misleading and bizarrely disjointed. By the way, I had also taken at least 20 seconds (yes, THAT LONG) to skip around the video and acquire even more reason to believe that this video is not what the title leads one to believe it is. Oh well. We live in a "bait-and-switch" culture now.
Valid point, I enjoyed this documentary, and if young folk get into 'real' music, including the genres you mentioned that have been overlooked here then I feel this is a good thing. Your comments also contribute to others looking elsewhere, as I have my entire life.
Godspeed, Neurosis and I heard Swans mentioned, great documentary
yeah... this has been my go to documentary for new (as in new to me), awesome bands for the past 5 months now... still getting through them all.
You've already,at a young age, found yourself in the right place for great music..
Wow, many of my favorite bands in one place. How did I miss this?
All the bands in this doc represent the TRUE definition of “alt-metal”. Thinking outside the box, not a bunch of bands all doing the same thing to get on the radio.
Can we talk about the exclusive interview with the dude who makes the pennies for the F#A# Vinyl?
Love a lot of these bands.....loving many more. What a fantastic film!!
these guys are talking my language. Living in England i was loosing faith in alternative music. I've recommended a few of these bands to my friends and it's expanded their lives. I like the genreless it is what music should be about reacting with the moment.
I'm in love with the Made Out Of Babies chick
She works with Cult of Luna now.
Did not expect to see the guys from Rosetta here :3
love this, metal is special to me
I love how Arron Turner is holding a fat joint during the interview.
This is what music is all about... :)
I cry when I hear Neurosis what's that make me?
+Dru541 A real man.
That means you HEARD it and didn't just listen. Had the same effect on me when I saw em live.
rad
Stephen Connally
I think it means you FELT it and didn't just listen.
Exactly
lo mejor de las bandas de esta época!
RIP Caleb Scofield
Gone too soon
Julie Christmas works with John Lamacchia (Candiria-Spylacopa) from time to time. She has some stuff on his label "Rising Pulse". It would be cool to see some stuff with him also.
Still hurts my heart so much when I see Caleb speak or even hear his vocals in a lot of Cave In/OMG and Zozobra stuff... I don’t think that one will ever heal
Performative grief is gross.
Colored vinal always great.
Excellent stuff. Very enjoyable.
"You'll never find an ISIS song on a 30 second commercial." Ronda Rousey vs Meisha Tate UFC number whateverthefuck used Weight by ISIS in the promo commercial. AHAAA!
really?
great work!!, I kept finding it for nearly half year!! thanks a lot!!
i hope this band you are talking about is Neurosis?
love this "doc"
Gracias por el video y mil mas por subtitularlo ojala puedas subir mas , saludos
I also hope the band is Neurosis, those guys need way more documentation.
Never knew it was “Casheed” and not “ Cackside”. Well then..
Brutal !!!
RIP Caleb ❤
Wish that this would've been filmed a couple years earlier so that what was going on at Young God Records at the time could've been represented.
Done! And good job!
muchas gracias esperaba que alguien amable le pusiera onda!
I know exactly what you mean. The first time I heard it, I felt like I had known it all along.
Now that's a fucking band for you.
gracias por compartirlo! :) un abrazo.
I’m sorry to say this but it’s the truth and sometimes the truth hurts.
Neurot buries both Hydra Head and Constellation records
Rest In Peace Caleb...
Neurosis
Sebastian Knee-Wright
I’ve come from the future to give you a thumbs up. 👍🏻 I hope this doesn’t destroy your timeline.
excellent, thank you
Can someone please identify the song playing after the Thrones clip, starting at 1:24:45? The song with the fast ride cymbal and snare drum work, and it goes until 1:25:24
Gumbo72203 "Executioner Blues" by Do Make Say Think. On the album You, You're a History in Rust.
@ 24:30 How it’s spelt: Caxide
How you’d think it’s pronounced: Cack-side
How it’s actually pronounced: Casheed
KayinState yea dude that took me by surprise and I was like fuck I’ve been pronouncing his name wrong for years now.. ha shit. Never heard anyone pronounce it correctly
i miss some very important british bands, like mahumodo or *shels, or generally bands from the surroundings of shelsmusic (i'm also thinking fall of efrafa or light bearer). i guess the creators of this film didn't have the means to venture over the atlantic. but still, would've been nice. anyway, awesome documentary!
I like all those bands, but i don't think that they are really part of the same scene. the new Light Bearer is amazing, though!
Isis-Carry - from the beginning until minute 5, for anyone who might be wondering.
Gran aporte! gracias :)
Hey just seen thks Kenneth plz keep digging
Hardcoded subs...classy.
What's the Neurosis track at 53.16? Brilliant!
Lucas de la luz Water is Not Enough (from the album Given to the Rising)
Thank you.
Whats the oxbow song at 44:20 and again at 46:08? Thanks guys. Mad doco
Found it. Stallkicker
So who else came here for Steve?
saw art by Will Schaff , but no credit.. 1:03 roughly .
seems weird for a film like this to not credit a working artist for use of his/her image.
silently listening
wow, now that I read this, I realise it too.
In my opinion no amount of compressed digital audio can match the quality of a hard stamped vinyl record!
It's weird. Part of me feels as though I've heard the progressions and structures somewhere before, but I know that I haven't. I have to echo ej7f and refer to the "collective unconscious".
GRACIAS POR ESTO!!!!
excellent
Neurosis - water is not enough !
GRACIAS !!
14:50 Cave In segment
Men, do you know the name of the song that they play live?
@@rcviii Trepanning
@@mynameismark25 thanks a lot!!!
Does Pete Majors have a beard wig?
What's the GY!BE song with the big chorale counterpoint ending?
That's Silver mt Zion.
Song's called BlindBlindBlind
who made this documentary ?
Kenneth Thomas - check out his youtube page to see his Old Man Gloom doc, as well as previews of the upcoming doc on Aquarius Records.
here for scott, steve, aaron, and efrum
best cave in álbum?
Jupiter imo
Oh my god. Pleas somebody tell me what the song at 46:05 is.
what a storm of light song is at 42:27
Sister
Unfortunately for metal, the best albums usually are made when the people making it have really shitty lives, or shit happening to them. This didn't use to be the case with Heavy Metal bands like Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Rush etc... because it's more groove based. But what we now call post metal, or industrial metal, things like Neurosis, Isis, Godflesh, is raw emotions, suffering and rage mainly. A good example is Strapping Young Lad, with all Devin's rage in an album like City. Then his life got better, he didn't feel so bad, and simply didn't do SYL anymore. To me that's what happened to Neurosis, Isis and Broadrick. Their music got recognized, their lives got better. I don't want to say their music quality declined because their new albums are still critically aclaimed, but for people like me, looking for pure raw emotions, it's not the same. It's been diluted, it's more about the melodies and sound, not the rage anymore.
We will never have a second "Enemy of the sun" or "Through Silver in Blood". There won't be another "City" or another "Pure". The Godflesh comeback is just horrible, with that double bass, and way too low 8 string guitar, it's bland, it doesn't work. Pelican and Isis went the same way: their first albums were really heavy and on the edge. Not violent, just emotionally heavy. And they drifted into gooey, loving and caring post rock or something, it was horrible to see. Bands like Cult of Luna, Gojira, or Mastodon went the same way, with clean vocals, big production, mainstream stuff.
So now it's all about finding that "new" band that just started and still has that red burning fire of pure suffering and rage in them. At the moment, there's This Gift is A Curse from Sweden, it's like Neurosis on steroids. I also felt that fire in the last Correction House, in which Scott Kelly plays. I can't understand why but I'm finding some of the old Neurosis in Correction House, while the old Neurosis has disappeared since "Given to the Rising".
Well the thing is I hate Crack the Skye, the clean vocals are awful. Neurosis is my favorite band, but their shift started with Times of Grace, not Through Silver in Blood which is part of a trilogy of albums of similar style with Souls at Zero and Enemy of the Sun. Isis transition was with Panopticon and I didn't like it. I thought it was very mellow and gooey post rock. And Mars To Sirius was when I lost interest with Gojira. To me, Terra Incognita is still an amazing piece of Death Metal. But when they turned to mainstream metal with clean vocals and that green political message and white whales in space on the cover... no thank you. I don't know of one single band who went from raw and powerful to mellow and melodic that was constant in quality throughout. I think Neurosis' A sun that never set is great, so was The Eye of Every Storm. But the following 3 albums are not very good, I've stopped listening to them a while ago.
It's all natural: you puke your guts in your music, you lay out all your emotions. The public loves it, the critics especially love it. So you feel better about yourself, your life (usually) gets better, and you don't have those emotions anymore, your music isn't as violent and powerful as it used to be. It can be the opposite outside metal. Like Bob Dylan started with very emotional folk songs, before his electric period which I don't like: less dark, less interesting. But in metal, it's very difficult to maintain that level of intensity all the time. It's easier in some styles of music, where you don't write songs close to your heart, just fun songs. Like in death metal, grindcore etc... Bands like Napalm Death or Immolation have been going on for decades now. But Neurosis and Isis, and other post-hardcore bands such as Cult of Luna had such an energy that it was bound to disappear with time. Neurosis concerts are now quite disappointing compared to what they used to be, and Isis ended their carreer with a truly awful album, it was pathetic.
Can only be mad at the world and say the same things so many times man. I completely understand what you’re saying but I look at it as a progression, or evolution of these people and their music, and maybe I’m biased because I like newer Mastodon, and I love every single ISIS record. But yea all subjective and in my opinion
Toxic Potato you get it for sure. Feel the same way
every band has their "black album"
Well I hate to break it to you, but artists are humans, and humans evolve, and the evolution is reflected in their art. Peoples understanding of the world changes, their perspective changes, they accrue more experience, and they draw from a wellspring of emotion far beyond just rage and darkness. Sorry, we can’t all stay 17 forever.
Anyone know the song that plays at the 54 minute mark? I know it's Neurosis
Water is not enough
Song at 46:05?
Stallkicker
does anyone know the name of the song played by mt. zion at about 1:08:03ish?
album ?
BlindBlindBlind
23:53 - 26:12 Isis-Wrists of kings
godspeed song at 58:35 please?
azaz z Almost certainly "Storm"
thanks bud
cool
neurosis song at 54:30 please?
If you have a serious office, you´re no longer D.I.Y. you´re a company.
That´s fine, but it´s not D.I.Y. any longer, when you ask me!
Once you gain more of a following you need more hands to help fulfill orders and what are they supposed to work out of an apartment?
Since you've bought guitar and amp in the shop you're no longer DIY. Where do you draw the line?
Where can I get this on DVD/Bluray?
www. bloodsweatvinyl.com/ bsv-2-dvd-box-set/
It's been a while but here you go. Remove the spaces
What's the first Grails song they play?
I would like know too.
What is the Neurosis song playing 54:00 ?
Water Is Not Enough (Given To The Rising 2007)
Please, name of A Silver Mt. Zion song in minute 1:08:00?
BlindBlindBlind
i like most everything except the black empire dudes i don't know why it's just something i wasn't feel even their other stuff. i feel like a bummer because of it.
You should try listening to it some more. You might have a breakthrough
Re-listen. Trust me. Start with skinny fists. I used to feel like you.
Can anyone tell my the Shrinebuilder song at 40:16?
pyramid of the moon
Awesome! Thanks so much.
Which band? :)
What song is at 35:25?
can someone tell me what is the song at 53:17 ??
Water is not enough neurosis
Listen to Luciferian Towers by Godspeed especially Bosses Hang. This is real music, not the processed commercial products of pop and rap. We're all still waiting for this shit to crash
whats the song at the very end?
@@Fogo_ no.....
@@azaz... It's Old Man Gloom's 1-track epic album Zozobra. The bit at the end is somewhere around the middle part. ruclips.net/video/EjG_E8I5trI/видео.html
best godflesh and jesu albums anyone please?
Godflesh- Streetcleaner, Pure, A World Lit Only by Fire
Jesu- Heart Ache EP, self-titled album
thanks bud
Please listen to Jesu's Silver EP. So good.
i listened to streetcleaner and it was a bit..... meh drum machine was annoying
All of them.
Och aye
i would feel weird calling my band isis
The band started in the mid 90s and broke up a few years before the ISIS you are referring to was formed.
Manny Prieres fair enough
Yeah but Isis is actually an Egyptian god.. from 1000 years ago.. that is where they got the name of Isis from.
Anyone could heöp me with the song by Godspeed at 1:01:00?
Antennas To Heaven, that specific part of the song is called She Dreamt She was a Bulldozer, She Dreamt She was Alone in an Empty Field
Cheers :)
what about 58:35?
Jesu, Neurosis, Pelican, Isis, thank you...
55:30 GY!BE :D
song at 4:54?
Last Day Of Winter by Pelican.
Pleeeeeeease tell me it's Isis.
Song? 50:36
I'd like to know too.
@@iflores Silk Rd
doorman metal
Stallkicker
Who doesn't? :D
stone age
1:04:44 song title please? :)
Take These Hands And Throw Them In The River
15:44 Band plays... No one moves! That´s a bad testimonial for the band!
If you´re not able to move your audience you have a huge problem!
What a misleading and bizarrely disjointed documentary. If you are going to make a documentary about DIY/independent music culture, then start by explaining this theme and giving lots of examples (different musical genres) before focusing on a bunch of underground metal bands and metal labels in a way that only folks interested in those bands and labels could appreciate. Those Aquarius Records guys could have given over a dozen examples of hidden music cultures, including punk, psychedelic, experimental, and underground metal. Five minutes into the video, I stopped watching because it was all like a commercial for the Hydra Head label. I wonder how many people have been tricked into watching this by the title's suggestion that it's simply about contemporary DIY music?
what an incredibly unfortunate thing that you only got through 5 minutes of it before you formed your opinion on a piece that is an hour and a half long, and filled with so many different things. if you took your head out of your ass for a few minutes, you would find different record labels being represented.
The first five minutes proved that this video (no matter how long it is) wasn't going to be worth my time. I was correct to say it is misleading and bizarrely disjointed. By the way, I had also taken at least 20 seconds (yes, THAT LONG) to skip around the video and acquire even more reason to believe that this video is not what the title leads one to believe it is. Oh well. We live in a "bait-and-switch" culture now.
Admit you like it. This doc is about anything post- (whether it be rock or metal).
777gggppp you are what is wrong with today's culture. no fucking sense of patience.
oh well.
good luck and godspeed.
Valid point, I enjoyed this documentary, and if young folk get into 'real' music, including the genres you mentioned that have been overlooked here then I feel this is a good thing. Your comments also contribute to others looking elsewhere, as I have my entire life.
song at 30:25 ?
Distill by Neurosis. The best band I've ever heard
Thanks so much man. I love them as well. I wish they'd reissue A Sun That Never Sets on vinyl.
And song at 37:00 or so?
Álvaro Rodríguez Ortiz 35:24 til 37:30 playing in the background of the interviews is "At the end of the Road" by Neurosis
Thanks man