DeWalt Battery Adapters DCA1820 Vs. Waitley: Which is Best? XRP Tools
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2020
- Working on car repairs? In this CarBuyingTips.com video we review 2 popular battery adapters used to convert old DeWalt XRP tools using the discontinued 18 volt lithium ion batteries, allowing them to use the modern DeWalt XR 20 V batteries in their place. This is a common problem for owners of older Dewalt XRP 18 volt drills and other DeWalt tools, when their dewalt xrp drill battery finally dies, they can't find a new replacement lithium-ion battery.
These new dewalt battery adapter tools solve the problem by attaching to your old DeWalt 18v tools, and they adapt your older DeWalt tool to the current generation of DeWalt XR 20 volt batteries. The dewalt dca1820 battery adapters provide the perfect interface for you to keep using your older DeWalt XRP tools with the latest batteries.
🛒 Links to Dewalt battery adapters, 20V batteries, chargers to replace dewalt xrp battery
🛒 DEWALT 18v to 20v Adapter Kit (DCA2203C), with 2 Batteries, Charger: amzn.to/2NohBRb
🛒 DEWALT DCA1820 18v to 20v Battery Adapter Dewalt XRP Tools: amzn.to/37bhBNB
🛒 Waitley WTL1820 Battery Adapter for Dewalt DCA1820 18V-20V Converter: amzn.to/2XF2E3u
🛒 DEWALT 20V MAX XR 20V Battery, 5.0-Ah, 2-Pack (DCB205-2): amzn.to/2UeMDyL
🛒 DEWALT FLEXVOLT 20V MAX Charger, Rapid Charge (DCB118): amzn.to/3dH3iTl
waitley battery adapter for dewalt is less expensive than the deWalt battery adapter.
The dca1820 dewalt battery adapter is usually found for about $27 and is made from the same material as the tools, with the same textures, so it looks and feels like a normal extension for your DeWalt XRP drills and tools. This dewalt dca1820 battery adapter is made in Thailand, and is thicker than most of the cheaper Chines knock offs, and is screwed together, whereas the other competing dca1820 dewalt battery adapters like the Waitley WTL1820 battery adapter for DeWalt have thinner ultrasonic welded plastic housings, not texture, and overall feel less rugged.
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🛒 Links to Dewalt battery adapters, 20V batteries, chargers to replace dewalt xrp battery
🛒 DEWALT 18v to 20v Adapter Kit (DCA2203C), with 2 Batteries, Charger: amzn.to/2NohBRb
🛒 DEWALT DCA1820 18v to 20v Battery Adapter Dewalt XRP Tools: amzn.to/37bhBNB
🛒 Waitley WTL1820 Battery Adapter for Dewalt DCA1820 18V-20V Converter: amzn.to/2XF2E3u
🛒 DEWALT 20V MAX XR 20V Battery, 5.0-Ah, 2-Pack (DCB205-2): amzn.to/2UeMDyL
🛒 DEWALT FLEXVOLT 20V MAX Charger, Rapid Charge (DCB118): amzn.to/3dH3iTl
Hii Is this converter suitable for dewalt DW 965 .90 degree drill ??
Excellent video! Very comprehensive and I'm so grateful for the section about the Waitley being compatible with the Milwaukee batteries. That just solved my whole issue, and the Waitley is $12.58 on Amazon today. Thanks so much!!
Great comparison review of the 2 adapters. I need one for my older DeWalt tools as I now have the newer DeWalt drill motor & newer battery with it. So this adapter will help keep my older DeWalt tools working. Great review.
I have a very old DeWalt drill with lithium ion batteries. Still works great! The key to making your batteries last longer is to keep them in your house. Extreme temps kill batteries quick.
Very thorough comparison and coverage of features and characteristics of both battery adapters. The presenter is an excellent communicator. Well done.
Thanks you Rick!
Dewalt’s adapter has a protection circuit built into the adapter so if a tool binds it doesn’t over amp and kill your new batteries. The off brands are wired directly to the terminals so they can over amp. They designed 60v batteries not to work because the needed protection circuit and old style connections weren’t meant to handle the amount of amperage the battery can deliver.
That's why we have all the newer tools and batteries now
Oh yeah! And that protection circuitry is garbage and doesn't work. On first use my drill spun and instantly cut out. ( burnt out transistor) I wired direct internally and still strong. Just don't leave over night in your tool as they discharge! They're all fake! Cheap plastic unlike Dewalt plastic. I have the Dewalt adaptor and a Swedish version.( much better). And a cheap EBay version.
@@dragan3290 I wouldn’t be worried about leaving the battery in the tool overnight. I’d be more worried about killing the battery because there’s no low voltage cut off in those adapters. Dewalt batteries don’t have any protection circuitry in the batteries, it’s all handled by the tool you plug them into. Since the old 18v tools ran a different chemistry battery they could be completely depleted without harming the battery so no protection circuitry was installed in the tool. So if you have a lithium battery with no internal protection, and a tool with no protection the only thing that’s left is the adapter, if that is a cheap Chinese nockoff it won’t have any protection at all so the entire set up will have no battery protection and the battery could overheat to a critical level or discharge to the point where it won’t take a charge anymore. So you really need all the circuitry in the adapters.
Beat me to it. Only thing I'll add is that it's okay to use the Chinese adapter on the right tools. I've got one for dewalt to ryobi for a hot glue gun (the glue gun was an amazing deal and the adapter was only $5). I'd never use one on a circular saw. I'm gonna buy the Dewalt adapter so I can add a recip saw to my Dewalt kit.
First viewing of your channel. Very nice production and good information. If this car thing doesn't work out for there's a great future in tool reviews for you. I also like you don't seem to be shilling for any particular brand.
I have had both of these. I haven’t had very good luck with the dewalt ones. They just mysteriously quit working. Never had one last more than 90 days so they have all been returned.
The red ones, they are satisfactory. Not a quality feeling product in your hand, but never had one break. Haven’t used the usb function that much but seems to work fine. With well worn battery retaining notches (tool side), the adapter can be hard to remove. I have used them equally between dewalt and Milwaukee batteries. Mine have never been as tight on the battery as yours. Milwaukee slides off just as easy as dewalt. In fact, they fit quite sloppy on the m18 batteries. There is enough extra movement that I can’t run the m18 batteries on the recip, it will eject the batteries right out of the adapter from the vibration. The dewalt batteries fit in these much better and more securely. I also found out pretty quickly that These are not robust enough to use on a high power draw tool like an angle grinder. The heat generated softens the plastic around the terminals and when you switch batteries it allows the terminals to be pushed back, resulting in loss of connection. These definitely aren’t the 100% fix all solution, but they are super handy and an affordable option to be able to utilize what you already have or take advantage of some $5 yard sale finds (18v dewalt tools are cheap and plentiful at yard sales, auctions, pawn shops).
I also have similar adapters to use 20v dewalt/m18 batteries in my Ryobi stuff. Ryobi makes some cool stuff that nobody else does and affordable options for some of those “specialty” tools that most of us don’t use a lot. It’s nice to not have to be bound to Ryobi batteries for just a couple tools. The adapters I have for the Ryobi seem to be constructed better than these dewalt ones. The plastic is still probably still just cheap abs, but the fit and finish is much tighter and screwed together instead of glued/welded. The terminals also come in from the back instead of the top, which helps tremendously with the terminal warping/bending issue vs the dewalt adapter.
Dewalt honored the warranty OK right?
matthew peters My batteries never really get hot just the motors or whatever is in the drill feels warm after some good use. My batteries get pretty hot with my grinder tho no adaptor I think we need the 60v batteries for grinders
what happens is in side there are wires soldered. under heavy amp draw the solder melts and you lose the connection. you have to take apart and resolder. this happens with no name adapter as well.
@@ronblack7870 in most cases solder is a mixture of lead and tin wondering if a soldering Iron would have enough heat to melt the new silver solder that is used in plumbing maybe the higher melting point would fix the problem of high current draw melting the solder
EXCELLENT video - Very well done! I have had the same problems as many others with the DeWalt (difficult removing adaptor from tool). I just purchased a couple new DeWalt 5.0 AH batteries and have 1 old DeWalt adaptor and I was going to purchase another so I don't have to change adaptors. Now I will compare and decide whether or not to consider the Waitley. Thank you very much!
this was our fiend's battery. We gave up the old style batteries 4 years ago, using all the new lithiums and brushless tools now.
Thank goodness I found this video. I have an older set of 18v Dewalt tools that I am using while my 20v newer tools are at my cabin. I went to slide my new Flex Volt battery into the adaptor and surprisingly it wouldn't fit. I was none too happy about my $200 battery purchase not being "flex"ible as I though it was going to be. I instantly had buyer's remorse paying more for a Flex Volt battery thinking I was future proofing my investment....
I am off to Amazon to purchase my Waitley adaptor to overcome this issue.
My older 18v tools will permanently reside at the cabin while my newer 20v versions will stay home 👍
We love the Flexvolt tools. The Flexvolt batteries can be use don Dewalt's 50V or 20V tools, they will last longer.
Great quick service, delivery
Just wanted say thanks, this is the most informative video on RUclips. I have xrp hammer drill but, M18 batteries.
Glad it helped
Great comunicator and very helpfull video, i have one of those De Walt and problems with batteries
Glad it helped jose
Hello, an awsome review,and presentation.
Very well explained thank you
That was helpful. Thanks!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Jeff, I was talking about using a Makita 18v battery on a DeWalt 20v tool or vice Versa, or a Milwaukee M18 battery on a Makita 18v tool and vice versa, or a DeWalt 20v battery on a Milwaukee M18 tool and vice versa, in your latest video on those 3 inverters, seen today, Sunday, February 20. I love your videos! Subscribed to this channel, too, bro! Thanks!
Thanks, glad to have you here too!
thanks for all the info.
Any time!
I have the Dewalt adapter, but need a second.
I think I'll give that Waitly a try as the Dewalt adaptors are now running about $40.
Very nice vid.
Dewalt adapters are always sky high in price!
thumbs up 👍🏼 from Australia
Glad to help!
I've had my adaptor for awhile I love it ! I use my newer DeWalt tools for work and my old stuff an adaptor for DIY around the house and on the cars and stuff . It's an awesome tool, fits both my drills and skillsaw. Didn't fit my older DeWalt flashlight tho. Just picked up some used Milwaukee batteries for the adapter. Keeping those expensive DeWalts for work !
That is awesome! Good strategy.
nice video, thank you from your friend from europe! :)
Thanks for watching Stephan
@@carbuying very welcome. it gave me some impressions. Iam actually searching for a converter from Bosch 18V Green to Bosch 18V Blue. i found diverent adapters for different brances, but this important one is missing. I now think, iam going to build one by myself.
I have the 18/20V yellow one. I was using it on my circular saw with a larger battery and it smoked the adapter (a lot of smoke) and also caused the battery to quit working. I took the adapter apart and it contains some electronics and a mosfet that was burnt and broken. I've ordered a replacement mosfet but I didn't see anything obvious in the battery to fix. If it was there to protect the battery, it didn't work. I have 2 of these adapters but I no longer use it with my saw.
Jeff, just got my Dewalt adapter, as to taking it off I find that if you press the button at the top you get the leverage to pull it out, I think that people that are used to the Dewalt 18V battery the spring on the button is not as hard to push and people think that the button on the adapter is just as easy to push which is not the case, just my opinion
Great job thx you
Thanks for watching!
Very good I have some of those tools which one will you recommend
I use the red one. Works great.
Yes, it is handy. How do you like the USB port, do you charge your phone with it and are you happy with the charge time?
carbuyingtipscom Heck yeah man they charge super fast !
Yes sir got one to use my Dewalt 20v to 19.2 craftsman 1/2 impact
Right on
Great video please tolerate these questions if they are stupid lol.. I have 218 V the waltz one is an impact drill 1 is a regular 3/8 drill with the push up battery.. From watching this video I understand now that just because the battery is 20 V only 18 V will come up through the contacts.. Someone has told me not to try and use 20 V batteries on an 18 V drill because I could damage the motor but this appears to be untrue.. So question 1) If I buy a 20 V lithium battery which I know is lighter and the adapter have I spent about as much as I would buying a 20 V to Walt 3/8 drill or 20 V impact drill? Question 2). I have a ryobi 18 V cordless wrench with 2 batteries.. They are the pushing kind like my older Dewalts, Is is there an adapter to put the ryobi batteries in the dewalt drills? At least this way if one of my dewalt 18 V batteries dies I can use my other batteries.. I am just a homeowner I don't do projects or do this to make money, so it's just for around the house stuff
Great review
Thanks Gil, glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
I just bought the waitley to see if I can use my Milwaukee batteries with a brand new ½ impact wrench that I never used and has been sitting in my garage for years. Hoping it works out ok
Jeff, I was registering my adapter today which DeWalt says you do not have to do. The registering went through but is also came up that the adapter is discontinued
I read in comments before about this subject that if you leave the new battery packs attached to the old 18v Dewalt tools, the batteries will die for some reason. I have these old dewalt tools but haven’t purchased the adapter yet but I’m guessing if it’s true, the best way would be to just to make sure you take the batteries off when you’re done using the tool.
Yes, DeWalt instructions tell you don't leave the battery on the adapter when not in use. the active circuitry in the adapter will start to drain the battery. It's probably a slow drain, but still would run the battery to 0 bars if left on there a prolonged period.
@@carbuyingIs this also a problem with the Waitley?
So which one will you recommend for my 18volts drill the red is better
Listen, for most people, and especially seniors in Florida and here in Arizona they do not know how a multimeter works which many of us learned to use in the 5th grade.
I bought one of these convertors but had to glue it in place as the match fit wasn't great. No big deal though. Takes all my dewalt and compatables just fine.
During the video, you mentioned the electronic protection inside the battery but not the tool, now, if I use the new XR battery with the old Dewalt tool, What are the consequences if I use it without protection neither the battery nor tool?
We don't know. If you are that concerned about safety of batteries, you should buy a newer DeWalt drill and use the newer lithium batteries, and problem solved.
I would assume the Dewalt adapter has the battery protection in it. I don't know that the other adapter dose. I have used a really cheep adapter and it was just wires inside. No protection. I did ruin one of my batteries by running it too low. It wouldn't charge after that. I now still use that cheep adapter I just make sure to check the charge with the lights on the battery. When it's at one bar I charge it.
My Dewalt adapter was nearly impossible to remove from the drill base. I ground down the tabs a little to solve that.
That's a good idea
This is a very good review I have DeWalt tools no problems with the tools but the batteries are the pits I bought the DeWalt converter and converted to the new style battery and now they will only charge two lights and I like being able to see charge on the battery but the quality of the batteries are no count I like the idea of being able to use a Milwaukee battery on a DeWalt tool but my plan is I'm done with DeWalt as I was done with Ryobi for the same problem the batteries are no count when the right time comes along I will make that switch to red Milwaukee Tools Black & Decker killed DeWalt
All the manufacturer batteries of the last few years are much better than the first generation of Lithium ion, and the older NiCad batteries.
Since the Waitley adapter will accept the Dewalt Flex volt battery, as well as the Milwaukee M18 battery, will the Waitley accept the Milwaukee M28 battery?
I have a Milwaukee Rotary Hammer that takes the M28 battery and don’t use it that often and would really like to use those M28 batteries that are just sitting around.
Thanks in advance!
Good question, we don't know about the M28, if it is keyed the same way as the M18. Can you get an M18 to fit on the rotary hammer? That will give us a clue.
Will it accept a riget battery
Do the adapter work for dcb127 (12V). I have dc727 drill and dcb101 which can charge 12V. Thanks
We don't know, don't have that one to try it on.
Thanks
No problem
So, I take it that this adapter is not recommended for the old DC 740 12 volt tool? I was gifted one in perfect condition and it seems a waste to not use it. It does have two batteries as old as the tool, but once they are finished the tool is end of life. Would like to find a way to keep it going, and not toss it.
I wonder if the waitley would also fit porter cable batteries.
Good question, we did not have any to try out
@@carbuying Just figured since they are in dewalt family...
If you are going to buy non OEM batteries Waitley is the next best thing. Dependable and durable. Same goes for accessories. The USB-A jack alone makes this thing worth the price. I can now charge my phone without having to leave it in the truck or rearrange my plugged in tools to accommodate my phone charger.
I have 12 volts can i use the adapter but I dont know if they will charge i can't see anything for 12 volts to 12 or 20 volts
We think these are made for 20v only.
can I use the DeWalt DCA1820 on a 14v NiCad tool with a 14v li-on battery?
if its just an adapter it should be possible, right?
we have not tried this
The Dewalt engineers made the adapters not fit because the larger 60v batteries triple the amount of current pushing through the tool and battery. All that current with no protection circuits means that you can overheat the tool or battery to the point of starting on fire.
Flexvolt batteries work on 60V DeWalt tools and on 20V tools. It's so much better to just buy a new generation of drills!
can i use this on my 14.4v dewalt xrp?
Porque avienta. Mucho uno cuando lo prendo?
What about a 12 v adapter to lithium
The red one sucks.. try opening up the red one and in side the wires is not tack very well. I got 2 of them and the two prong on the inside is melted after one week of use. I had to solder them all over to try to secure them..
The only positive thing, these cheap thing do work but you have to open them up and resolder them yourself.
This is why we have avoided this issue altogether by using DeWalt's newer XR lithium batteries.
Did the red one have any protection in it or was it only wires ?
I bought all new Dewalt tools when they came out with the 18v Nano lithium ion battery packs. I loved them until they stopped making the batteries. WHY? I know new technology and all, but why not continue to make these batteries for a few more years? By then most tools will need replacing and people would feel they got their monies worth out of their tools. As for me, I got rid of all my Dewalt tools and will NEVER again buy their brand. These tools are not cheap and they expect you to just buy a whole new line of tools just because they decided to stop making batteries? As for these adapters, yeah they work but they look ridiculous and are clumsy while working. Not what I want in a tool. I now have a new brand of tool for less money and love them. I wont mention the name but they have a lifetime warranty on tool and battery and they work GREAT! Take a lesson Dewalt, people don't have extra money to throw away on tools they already have.
The newer lithium batteries are worth it, they are lighter, we use the newer brushless tools and you can go a long time between charges now.
Had the black an red one, broke both my new batteries
how is that possible?
All Dewalt or any other manufacture those adapters would have to do to stop the battery drain is add a switch Or some sort of automatic sensor That turns on and off based on the trigger pull. It’s kind of ridiculous that they haven’t done that. I’m sure you can probably modify it to do so
Yes, they are too cheap to implement something to control that.
Dose it also fit bosh
don't know sorry
I use the dewalt and have to use channel locks to remove it
All part of that universal fit!
I have old DeWalt 12v and 14.4v NiCad drills, do you know if anyone makes an adapter similar to this for those devices?
We are not aware of any 12 volt solutions.
But works great with my batteries and on job
We found it worked great!
@@carbuying after two minutes or long term.
Piss on Dewalt for changing their battery style, I talesd to a Dewalt rep when the 20 volt tools were coming out and they said they would never get rid of the 18 volt tools because the were to popular. We see how that went. I'd rather by Ryobi.
Would have been 25 time easier for them to go on with the lithium battery they use to make with the old style connector instead of forcing their customer to use a dysfunctional to long adaptor , personally I'm a part time home remodeler i have about 25 nicad dewalt tools from rotating laser level to gyps zip gun impact gun etc. some have very few hours wearing on them like my gyps tools no way here in Canada i will buy the new version that would cost me around 2K$ if I switch I will for milwaukee since dewalt new battery are not compatible with their old tool line size format , and the marketing they are using is pretty wasteful to send good tools to the landfills , they already have a lithium battery that doesn't need adaptor that connect to all their old line the DC 9181 who only needed a yellow charger for LI-ION ,they say it's cheaper to put the electronic in the tool instead of the battery now but they are not giving their new battery away they are more expensive as the old one use to be ! Dewalt made direct nicad replacement with LI-ION battery before called DC9181 direct fit no adaptor no mess would fit very tool they ever made ,they don't make them anymore to force their customer to buy their new line off tool a marketing scam
We actually like the new batter form factor.
Anyone that know the cost grossly for: one adaptor + Two 20 volts batteries + One 20 volt charger. Thanks.
A thing "working" for a couple seconds on the bench is not necessarily real-world working and reliability. What about over-discharge protection? I think mixing brands, defeating connector and ignoring mfgr directions is risky. LiOn batteries -- particularly the big packs -- can be very dangerous. Do you REALLY want to risk damaging a 60/20V pack and have it ignite in the back of your truck overnight? I wish you'd get a Dewalt tech to comment on your potentially fatal advice.
Our preference is always to use the company's battery with the tool
"This older battery is more dangerous." Is it? I thought the older batteries "had all the protections built, but the newer ones don't".
Older batteries have less protection. the protection is now in the tool
The DeWalt adapter is horrible. Can't get the battery off the adapter nor can I get the adapter off the drill. Might as well have used Superglue.
Ok so just buy new 18v batteries dewalt still in the package
The older batteries are nicd, that's why they are dead and garbage. Lion will give those old tools a huge boost
sorry, but there is a lot of wrong info in your video. 1st, the old batteries are not lithium, theyre ni cad. Completely different chemistry. 2nd, the dewalt lithium battery does have battery protection built into the battery. Its called a BMS (battery management system). Almost every lithium battery pack will/Should have a bms
sorry but your comment is wrong. 1:08 clearly shows the battery is lithium ion, written on the battery LOL!
If you did you research(or your old enough) you'd remember the original dewalt were nicad then they released lithium ion batteries the same shape then came the square batteries( li-ion) then came the slide on ,new style
All of those off brand DeWalt 18v to 20v adapters are garbage. They may "work" fine in a tool that doesn't draw much amperage but if you use one on a 18v grinder, for example, the adapter will melt inside the tool within maybe 5 minutes. I have had this happen with two of the Waitley adapters. They are cheap chinese junk.
Bring on the Chinese, that circuit stuff inside the Dewalt one is trash anyways.
shame DeWalt adaptor
Your first 10 minutes was all about positioning DeWalt as the superior battery. Everyone already knows that it is. What people want to know is if the Waitley gives dollar performance for what is spent. It's not the consumer's job to keep Home Depot in business. Regardless, Home Depot is probably gone within five years.
USB port waste of money.
any adapters for black and decker 15.6v to 20v?