I don't believe he's a consistent starting quality QB. But what I believe doesn't matter. Just as long as people like you believe, and as long as he believes in himself, he can be just as great as other non-mobile HOF QBs like Brady, Manning, and Marino. But even those guys would've run through the gaping hole at 7:07.
That is why some of us thought that the team was trying to tank. Aidan was clearly the better QB, but they started Menshew. Now Menshew is out for the season. They could have started Ridder, but then it would be very obvious that the tank was in. Just speculating because it made no sense to start Menshew, and leave him in as the starter as long as they did.
Raiders fan here, this kid is for real...what he needs is consistency and better coaching around him. Everyone is always impressed by QB's who run, they make a ton of highlight reels in the regular season..but QB's who have arm talent and can read defenses are the ones who excel in the post season and win Super Bowls.
EXACTLY! Last year all the Minshew Raider fans (like Sanjay's raider channel, and maybe half of raider nation) we're saying Minshew better cause he could "scramble" ...Brady never scrambled. it's all about the coaching and system when u have a really accurate QB like Aiden
@@Crazyrudie that’s todays NFL though. QBs have to be able to move. Gone are the days of P Rivers, Manning etc. remember there’s a difference in scramble vs mobile. Every team Needs a mobile QB. Think Stroud, Mahomes, Purdy, Herbert, etc. (I could go on) a scrambler is more Hurts, Murray, Lamar, Allen. Today’s NFL is faster than ever. Gotta be able to move. Extend drives by picking up 1st downs, extend plays moving out of the pocket. Be mobile. I like Aidan but the kid is slooooowwww leaving the pocket.
He's not Lamar Jackson, but neither is Mahomes, who runs like a 30-something with a dad-bod, faking alleged professional players off their feet with ball fakes 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.
@ Mahomes is mobile though. Could Aidan pick up that chunk of yards that Mahomes did vs the Panthers to set up the game winning field goal? That’s today’s NFlL. Mobile QBs. Lamar is a scrambler. He’s beyond mobile.
Raiders should draft best player available. Aidan looks like Tom Brady if you compare film , lots of the same movements , I have faith in Aidan , I just hope the Raiders do.
Not a raiders fan but I was definitely confused when they brought Minshew in. O'Connel looked solid last year when he took over the second half, why not give him a full year in the system and let him grow? #tapedontlie
The reason why they didn’t start Aiden O’Connell in the beginning of the season is because Tom Telesco signed Gardner Minschew in free agency for 15 million guaranteed and he would’ve looked stupid burning that money when Aiden is only making about 1 million and was already on the roster. That’s the real reason why DeVantae left.
AOC looked great, Bowers was amazing, Meyers has looked good as of late, and our running game is finally getting it done. What an improvement from early in the season.
We gotta remember that new offensive coordinator we got Scott turner I think he the real deal I like his play calling actually giving us a chance to make big plays
Excellent breakdown. Raider fan here, I believe with the new O.C. the offense will be more explosive. Utilizing Bowers as a slot at times. But you are right AOC is a gem.
I’d take Snake Stabler over Aidan’s character. Maybe we’ve lost our way but the Raiders were the bad boys of the NFL. From Al Davis to Phil Villapiano , the assassin, Ted Hendricks,Lyle Alzado. Greg Townsend (fighting the whole KC team) to Maxx Crosby today. I know I’m leaving a ton out but Al didn’t care about the color of your skin, who you slept with or if you studied the playbook by the light of a jukebox in a bar the night before a game. All that matter was one thing…..just win baby!.
@@kennethbate2778Brady had a lot of help becoming the goat. His offensive lines, defenses, and coach were all world. Even the rulebook and officials accommodated him. We have leaky trenches on both sides of the ball and an injured secondary. That is why Brady turned down the opportunity to play for Vegas last year. Aidan has to be smarter with the ball. What this tape doesn't show is him forcing the ball into triple coverage numerous times and balls thrown to red jerseys that luckily bounced off of hands. It also doesn't show that he lacks the pocket awareness that is absolutely essential to the success of an immobile QB. Brady was a cone, but he knew how to manipulate the pocket. I don't see that situational awareness in the kid. I say kid, but this dude has played a lot of football. He's the same age as Tua, Herbert, Love, Hurts, Darnold, Lamar, and Burrow, and older than Purdy and Stroud. That early snap that lost the game was also on Aidan. At the conclusion of this season, we should have a clear indication on whether Aidan is a QB1 or 2. Regardless of what we see, we should still draft a QB with the first round pick and let him and Aidan fight it out. If a rookie takes his job like Minshew did this season, then we must come to the conclusion that Aidan has flaws that people who coach him daily see that the fans aren't privy to. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again. What I think doesn't matter. Aidan has to have enough dog in him to believe in himself like that other #12 did.
On a side note..12 is crazy..they threw beer bottles on the freeway at our motorhome as we road INTO town. This was in the middle of the day. I felt so at home. Shout out to Seahawk Family!! & thw women....let's just say..I left a little lighter. ❤yall!!😊
It was really smart of Tucker to dive into the end zone as well. He probably wasn't sure that Chiefs defender was going to get to him in time, and knock him out of bounds, or strip the ball. Nice play all around.
Raider fan here. Glad to find you in my feed. Nice lil break down and overall content. Subbed. Always a Hawks fans when you guys play against the SF Whiners and LA Lambs. Can't stand those teams as much as our afc west division rivals. 🏴☠️ ✌️
AOC is no backup!!! I don't see any QB in this draft playing this NFL ready!!! Raider Nation has had so many bad QB's in the past that when we get TRUE QB, some from the Nation don't even recognize it! AOC is that guy!!! QB1. Also i respect the play calling. The Turners are making this offense go!
When we drafted AOC, I posted that he's gonna be the guy who turns the franchise around. I got hate for it. I appreciate you for always having his back. I wouldn't be mad if we draft OL instead of QB. ☠☠☠
Oline isn't that bad. A guard or two, and we're set. Coaching was the big issue for the oline all year. Having said that, if Aiden balls out the rest of the year causing us not to take a QB in the first round, we have to get Travis Hunter. People would be saying "Davante, who?" while he sits on the Jets rebuilding, lol.
The first mistake the Raiders made this season was hiring Luke Getsy, the second mistake was giving Minshew that much guaranteed money, the third mistake was not naming AOC the starter at the beginning of the season. Time will tell if the first mistake wasn’t actually hiring Telesco, hopefully that wasn’t a mistake.
Miss the days when the Seahawks and Raiders were divisional rivals Bo and Boz, the real Curt Warner and the awesome Steve Largent.........and especially those silver and blue uniforms 😀
Bro don’t even need to explain to us non idiotic Raiders fans. We were shocked when Minshew was named starter for Game1. Bro! AP is a mess… idk how we are again asking the same question for the second straight season… what would have happened if Aidan was starter from Game1. Ridiculous man.
😔😔 I saw your first video reaction and just like you said he needed more fans to believe in him . I was hyped up to see what he had to bring this season, 🤨 but for some reason a lot of my fellow members of raider nation had felt that "we don't have a qb that was any good " I was like 😤🧐🤦♂️ , WTF YOU TALKIN ABOUT Didn't you watch the tapes ??😐😐😐 They didn't watch'em 🤯 they didn't believe in him and then gardener menshew gets signed and everyone started d**k riding him to be the starter I was like 😦 WTF REALLY!???😤😤😤 🙏🙏Thank you brother for your love of the game and the props you've given Adien on his Thank you 🙏🙏
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At first I thought we the raiders needed to try and get QB but after seeing some of AOC highlights I believe he’s the that diamond in the rough
Don't get me wrong. Raiders SHOULD have won this game by making a field goal or two. They totally outplayed the chiefs. I can't find any video that shows the whistle coming (blown dead) before the chiefs recovered the ball. If it had, I guarantee refs would have called it the other way. I also noticed that when the line judge is making the false start penalty motion, chiefs are already pointing in the in the other direction indicating they have the ball. Seems pretty clear they waited to long to stop the play if it really was a false start. Also...Imagine a late flag like this that bails out the chiefs from a fumble or other horrible play... wow would the internet go wild.
Thats not the rule if the Raiders didn't spike it on the down before it would be a dead ball foul but since the clock was stopped its a live ball foul so lets say Raiders were able to run a play it would be called back and minus 5 yards and an automatic 10 second run off but they fumbled which changes everything.
@jermainemarshall4575 it's a dead ball when the clock is stopped. Besides that the down judge signaled dead ball at the snap..look at his arms.. that's the signal for dead play
@brianhayward8240 They also wave their arms from their chest outwards to signal dead ball which is exactly what the down judge did at the snap. Know why? Because it's gets too loud to hear a whistle.
Rams fan here. Minshew is definitely the better Quarterback it’s unfortunate they had Luke Getsy as OC and it didn’t pan out. Had high hopes for them after they beat the Ravens and ever since they fell apart.
Luke Getsy's shit offense was the limiting factor in the offense of you couple that with not having someone to replace the production of Jacobs. I am convinced Minshew was signed because they expected to get Kingsbury for OC.
I am a Raiders fan, and I would love to see AOC get a shot. walk on at Purdue University 6th on the depth chart works his way up to be a starter 4th round pick works his way up to starting last year and then for some reason we don't give him the shot the next year AOC is the raider answer and I know that most fans don't believe that but I believe that.
If they’re smart, they’ll get him a running back, promote Norv Turner to quarterback/offensive coordinator coach whatever let him run the fucking offense
Sorry bro, I’m just gonna hit the like button and keep it pushing. Watching you praise AOC is just going to heat me up, cause you should’ve been made these, but they didn’t start him week 1. This season could have had more than 2 wins. Like my boy ALLaBorde Raiders said, Minshew is the reason we lose games, AOC has us in position to win, and isn’t the reason we lose. And he still doesn’t have a full season of games under his belt.
@@BigR365 I agree, Telesco threw this season away overpaying Menshew, then insisting that he start. I know it wasn't AP. Aidan is AP's guy. What a cluster Telesco caused this year. Chargers fans are laughing their a$$es off at us for hiring him. He can draft well, but other than that, he needs to keep his hands off of coaching decisions.
We have had the worst running game in the NFL this year. That is easily the number one reason for our two win season. Injuries on defense have also hurt badly.
I'm glad someone else recognizes that AOC can hang in the NFL. He just needs a full season, he still hasn't even played 17 games, goes out there and outperforms Mahomes...
-just wanted to add that yes I am a Raiders fan and it's sad that only a few of the Raiders fan content creators give him any love, it takes a Seahawks fan to show what he's doing.
I agree !!! Aiden O’Connell is the best quarterback in Vegas and he has proven to be the best quarterback to beat the chiefs and slaughter the chargers last year!!!
Yup! The SMART Raider fans know Aidan is a good QB! But everyone now wants the shiny Lamborghini. Only it won’t last long and isn’t reliable. Aidan can win games if the team set him up for success. But Raiders didn’t do that. They didn’t fix the Oline this offseason, they didn’t resign super stud Jacobs, they started Minshew instead of Aidan. Had they actually set Aidan up for success, then Raiders might be competing for the playoffs right now. Maybe Davante Adams would still be here as well. Raiders had plenty of money to sign guys this offseason. But their actions speak louder than and clear imo. They wanted a QB that will sell jerseys and stadium tickets. Pretty frustrating as a Hardcore Raider fan! Thanks for doing this video. GL to your Seahawks. RNFL
Nice breakdown of AOC and his talents. Many of us feel AOC would be a great starter. Hes got the smarts, toughness accuracy and respect of hos team mates. Why the coaching staff wont acknowledge this, who knows? I hope he gets a fair shot as well. He needs consistency. Heck! The whole team needs that. They are all young players (for the majority) who need to grow. Go draft a rookie and give AOC a year as starter and see what ya get. I think there will he quite a few surprised nay sayers. Just my humble opinion.
Adian O'Connell when I watched the highlights of the game I said if he was on a good team he could be a pro bowler his with his talent I'm an eagles fan I believe in him he has great pockets presence he moves well in the pocket can make any pass he just needs a team hes better then ATLEAST 10-15 starters in the leauge but his OLINE sucks Bowers is only true weapon imo he needs to start and make a offense of game plan that benefits him
As a Raiders fan, don’t draft a QB this year. Take best player available at position of need or trade down for draft capital, and run it back with AOC as the starter next year, all assuming AOC continues to ball.
you right about aoc and he shouldve been playing the entire time. he has the most important attribute a qb can have, he throws the ball well. i always enjoyyour videos and this is another good one. i dont really buy what youre saying about being unbiased though, youre starting to sound a lot like a fan.
7:07 he could have hit over the middle with a tight bullet pass over the middle. IMO also AOC has had it worse than probably any QB ever 2 HC 4 OC and just now is about to hit his 17th game which is also insane
Thank you so much for your video breakdown. I'm tired of so called Raider analyst who keep looking past AOC, to the draft. They are forever enterested in the next shiny thing, be it a QB or a defensive player. The Tucker TD was incredible, you saw the throw leaving early. Excellent. I saw how Tucker just had to open his arms, AOC dropped that mf right on his outer shoulder pad. I wet my pants. Draft 2 more dominate O-lineman & we're back in business. Then you can draft a QB in the 3rd-5th round. So no matter who's back there there is an OLINE that can protect the QB. THANKS AGAIN!!
LOL, the kid's on his FOURTH OC, third as a starter. Raiders should draft a QB but I'm not sure if they should give up the farm for a guy. Let AOC do more of what he did in the KC game and he should get his shot next year.
aidan is a victim of bad coaching on this staff. mcmoron almost ruined this kid. getsy was horrific as a play caller. as long as aidan progresses and continues to move this offense with turner as the o.c. i believe pierce will keep his job. smart play is draft a stud OL and protect this kid and he will be fine. his weakness is he runs like he is in quick sand but with the proper protection he can thrive because he has the talent and the arm strength and accuracy to be the number one QB moving forward. I believe in him. Maybe go after darnold from the vikings if he becomes a free agent to compete with him. But this team needs a few more lineman and i think this team will be fine. Defense will be healthy and re sign the upcoming free agents to be on the defense. win lose or tie raiders til i die!!!!!!!
Sure wish the Raiders coaching staff could see the clear no brainer choice between O’Connell and Minshew. I was at every Training Camp practice,….it wasn’t hard to see who the better Qb was. They had Adams, Bowers, Meyers, Mayer and Tucker to work with. AP’s bonehead choice destroyed the season. Adams began his time clock to find a way out after that decision. As a Raider fan, I have zero confidence the coaching staff will keep him no matter how good he plays.
Raider fan here, he's not consistent. He can't scramble inside the pocket , you cant always count on your Oline, this aint the old school football anymore. He needs to pay attention to his blindside.
Half of my fellow Raider fans are morons they continue to insist that AOC sucks I think he's going to develop into a really good starting quarterback if they give him the reins and leave him alone
With what we were going to be paying Adams next year, I am glad we traded him. More money for us to upgrade our offense and keep our defense together. Adams is washed.
watch the ref on the top of the screen run in saying false start, if he wasnt stopping the play his job is to watch the line for any fouls and run towards any fumble he ran to say the play is stopped he knew there was no play so his responsibility to check the fumble was over
I've been saying this until I'm red in the face... WE HAVE A QB. I'm worried we are going to reach on a bad QB this draft. We need best player... thats how we got Brock.
Raiders fan here , Thank you i have been behind AOC since last year. I love this kid!
I don't believe he's a consistent starting quality QB. But what I believe doesn't matter. Just as long as people like you believe, and as long as he believes in himself, he can be just as great as other non-mobile HOF QBs like Brady, Manning, and Marino. But even those guys would've run through the gaping hole at 7:07.
Adian O’Connell the cerebral assassin, baby should have been the guy all yr. SMFH
Exactly smh 🤦🏽♂️
That is why some of us thought that the team was trying to tank. Aidan was clearly the better QB, but they started Menshew. Now Menshew is out for the season. They could have started Ridder, but then it would be very obvious that the tank was in. Just speculating because it made no sense to start Menshew, and leave him in as the starter as long as they did.
He may win the next few games and we can draft at #10 or around there
He got hurt when he got his chance
That he wasn't the guy is a blessing in disguise. If he had been playing under Getsy's offense, he would have looked really bad.
Raiders fan here, this kid is for real...what he needs is consistency and better coaching around him. Everyone is always impressed by QB's who run, they make a ton of highlight reels in the regular season..but QB's who have arm talent and can read defenses are the ones who excel in the post season and win Super Bowls.
Aidan has the goods. Fans are just way to caught up on the ability to scramble. But if you give Aidan protection he's gonna tear up any defense.
EXACTLY! Last year all the Minshew Raider fans (like Sanjay's raider channel, and maybe half of raider nation) we're saying Minshew better cause he could "scramble" ...Brady never scrambled. it's all about the coaching and system when u have a really accurate QB like Aiden
@@Crazyrudie that’s todays NFL though. QBs have to be able to move. Gone are the days of P Rivers, Manning etc. remember there’s a difference in scramble vs mobile. Every team
Needs a mobile QB. Think Stroud, Mahomes, Purdy, Herbert, etc. (I could go on) a scrambler is more Hurts, Murray, Lamar, Allen. Today’s NFL is faster than ever. Gotta be able to move. Extend drives by picking up 1st downs, extend plays moving out of the pocket. Be mobile. I like Aidan but the kid is slooooowwww leaving the pocket.
He's not Lamar Jackson, but neither is Mahomes, who runs like a 30-something with a dad-bod, faking alleged professional players off their feet with ball fakes 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.
@ Mahomes is mobile though. Could Aidan pick up that chunk of yards that Mahomes did vs the Panthers to set up the game winning field goal? That’s today’s NFlL. Mobile QBs. Lamar is a scrambler. He’s beyond mobile.
@@BFPC-bs5lrwhat’s funny is almost all the mobile QBs you mentioned have never won a SB. Yet the pocket passers you mentioned have won SBs! 🤔
Out of the 5 games he's played, this is the only one he has actually started. Most games he was thrown in while we was already getting whooped.
Raiders should draft best player available. Aidan looks like Tom Brady if you compare film , lots of the same movements , I have faith in Aidan , I just hope the Raiders do.
He needs a real fair evaluation. He’s throwing with a lot of confidence and it’s opening up the offense
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He’s a good backup
Not a raiders fan but I was definitely confused when they brought Minshew in. O'Connel looked solid last year when he took over the second half, why not give him a full year in the system and let him grow? #tapedontlie
Plus they’ll sign a young qb to learn under Aidan for a year… they’ll have two legit QBs if that coached correctly… that’s good
I really appreciate the content brother. Yes Aidan has that dog in him. Should’ve been starting since week one. I hope he gets his shot next year.
The reason why they didn’t start Aiden O’Connell in the beginning of the season is because Tom Telesco signed Gardner Minschew in free agency for 15 million guaranteed and he would’ve looked stupid burning that money when Aiden is only making about 1 million and was already on the roster. That’s the real reason why DeVantae left.
DeVonte left because he bitched out. That's why karma is kicking his ass in NY right now
Imagine if Aidan did start… davante would probably still be a Raider… that’s tough for both ends man…
Stupid fucken reason to start booger man!!!!! I thought it was supposed to be the BEST MAN starts?????! Fire 🔥 Telesco and AP!!!!!’
7.5 million a year for a QB is nothing. We're probably investing under $10 million for all three QB's combined
💯 Spot on. Thanks
Loved your show and learned more watching it than many others. Almost gives me hope in AOC.
At the end of the day I just want him to get a far season to prove himself 👊🏾🏈
Finally found someone that sees what I see to bad your it a raiders fan. Idk how most raiders fans over look this man. Thank you. Thank you.
AOC looked great, Bowers was amazing, Meyers has looked good as of late, and our running game is finally getting it done. What an improvement from early in the season.
We gotta remember that new offensive coordinator we got Scott turner I think he the real deal I like his play calling actually giving us a chance to make big plays
Excellent breakdown. Raider fan here, I believe with the new O.C. the offense will be more explosive. Utilizing Bowers as a slot at times. But you are right AOC is a gem.
With Aidan, Character counts. Along with his talent.
I’d take Snake Stabler over Aidan’s character. Maybe we’ve lost our way but the Raiders were the bad boys of the NFL. From Al Davis to Phil Villapiano , the assassin, Ted Hendricks,Lyle Alzado. Greg Townsend (fighting the whole KC team) to Maxx Crosby today. I know I’m leaving a ton out but Al didn’t care about the color of your skin, who you slept with or if you studied the playbook by the light of a jukebox in a bar the night before a game. All that matter was one thing…..just win baby!.
Thanks for the love much respect 🫡 our fans want a Vick for qb they don’t like statues not even if they win. ✌️
I'm cool off that. AOC just not getting his time to shine. Blame Telesco and AP.
Vick never won shit. The goat TB12 is a statue compared to Vick Hurts Jackson.
@@kennethbate2778Brady had a lot of help becoming the goat. His offensive lines, defenses, and coach were all world. Even the rulebook and officials accommodated him. We have leaky trenches on both sides of the ball and an injured secondary. That is why Brady turned down the opportunity to play for Vegas last year. Aidan has to be smarter with the ball. What this tape doesn't show is him forcing the ball into triple coverage numerous times and balls thrown to red jerseys that luckily bounced off of hands. It also doesn't show that he lacks the pocket awareness that is absolutely essential to the success of an immobile QB. Brady was a cone, but he knew how to manipulate the pocket. I don't see that situational awareness in the kid. I say kid, but this dude has played a lot of football. He's the same age as Tua, Herbert, Love, Hurts, Darnold, Lamar, and Burrow, and older than Purdy and Stroud. That early snap that lost the game was also on Aidan. At the conclusion of this season, we should have a clear indication on whether Aidan is a QB1 or 2. Regardless of what we see, we should still draft a QB with the first round pick and let him and Aidan fight it out. If a rookie takes his job like Minshew did this season, then we must come to the conclusion that Aidan has flaws that people who coach him daily see that the fans aren't privy to. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again. What I think doesn't matter. Aidan has to have enough dog in him to believe in himself like that other #12 did.
Rrrraaaiiidddeeerrrssss 🔥🏴☠️💯🔥👏🏽🏴☠️
Let’s go!!!
Just found your channel. excellent breakdown. Just subscribed
Raider fan here sir. I salute you and hope your Seahawks have a good rest of the yr.
Helluva break down bruh 👍🏿
On a side note..12 is crazy..they threw beer bottles on the freeway at our motorhome as we road INTO town. This was in the middle of the day. I felt so at home. Shout out to Seahawk Family!! & thw women....let's just say..I left a little lighter. ❤yall!!😊
I wanted AOC be our Qb from the start of the season. He the Renfrow of Qbs.
It was really smart of Tucker to dive into the end zone as well. He probably wasn't sure that Chiefs defender was going to get to him in time, and knock him out of bounds, or strip the ball. Nice play all around.
Raider fan here. Glad to find you in my feed. Nice lil break down and overall content. Subbed.
Always a Hawks fans when you guys play against the SF Whiners and LA Lambs. Can't stand those teams as much as our afc west division rivals. 🏴☠️ ✌️
His arm is better than Shaduer’s
AOC is no backup!!! I don't see any QB in this draft playing this NFL ready!!! Raider Nation has had so many bad QB's in the past that when we get TRUE QB, some from the Nation don't even recognize it! AOC is that guy!!! QB1. Also i respect the play calling. The Turners are making this offense go!
When we drafted AOC, I posted that he's gonna be the guy who turns the franchise around. I got hate for it.
I appreciate you for always having his back. I wouldn't be mad if we draft OL instead of QB. ☠☠☠
Oline isn't that bad. A guard or two, and we're set. Coaching was the big issue for the oline all year. Having said that, if Aiden balls out the rest of the year causing us not to take a QB in the first round, we have to get Travis Hunter. People would be saying "Davante, who?" while he sits on the Jets rebuilding, lol.
The first mistake the Raiders made this season was hiring Luke Getsy, the second mistake was giving Minshew that much guaranteed money, the third mistake was not naming AOC the starter at the beginning of the season. Time will tell if the first mistake wasn’t actually hiring Telesco, hopefully that wasn’t a mistake.
Great commentary!
Miss the days when the Seahawks and Raiders were divisional rivals Bo and Boz, the real Curt Warner and the awesome Steve Largent.........and especially those silver and blue uniforms 😀
He came back early from a broken thumb injury to play in this game
Holy shit a Seahawks fan who knows what he is talking about RAAAAIIIIDDDEEEERRRS
very nice breakdown subsribed
Bro don’t even need to explain to us non idiotic Raiders fans. We were shocked when Minshew was named starter for Game1. Bro! AP is a mess… idk how we are again asking the same question for the second straight season… what would have happened if Aidan was starter from Game1. Ridiculous man.
😔😔 I saw your first video reaction and just like you said he needed more fans to believe in him . I was hyped up to see what he had to bring this season, 🤨 but for some reason a lot of my fellow members of raider nation had felt that "we don't have a qb that was any good " I was like 😤🧐🤦♂️ , WTF YOU TALKIN ABOUT Didn't you watch the tapes ??😐😐😐 They didn't watch'em 🤯 they didn't believe in him and then gardener menshew gets signed and everyone started d**k riding him to be the starter I was like 😦 WTF REALLY!???😤😤😤 🙏🙏Thank you brother for your love of the game and the props you've given Adien on his Thank you 🙏🙏
At first I thought we the raiders needed to try and get QB but after seeing some of AOC highlights I believe he’s the that diamond in the rough
AOC has been my QB since day one he’s a QB that gets back up and keep going he wants to get better you have to respect that
Thank you for the love much respect
I believe in him. If the Raiders invest in their O-line next season and keep Scott/Norv Turner, they have solid potential.
Line judge signaled dead ball at the snap and still have a fumble after the play is stopped
Don't get me wrong. Raiders SHOULD have won this game by making a field goal or two. They totally outplayed the chiefs.
I can't find any video that shows the whistle coming (blown dead) before the chiefs recovered the ball. If it had, I guarantee refs would have called it the other way. I also noticed that when the line judge is making the false start penalty motion, chiefs are already pointing in the in the other direction indicating they have the ball. Seems pretty clear they waited to long to stop the play if it really was a false start. Also...Imagine a late flag like this that bails out the chiefs from a fumble or other horrible play... wow would the internet go wild.
Thats not the rule if the Raiders didn't spike it on the down before it would be a dead ball foul but since the clock was stopped its a live ball foul so lets say Raiders were able to run a play it would be called back and minus 5 yards and an automatic 10 second run off but they fumbled which changes everything.
@jermainemarshall4575 it's a dead ball when the clock is stopped. Besides that the down judge signaled dead ball at the snap..look at his arms.. that's the signal for dead play
@@NWstockoperator And the way they stop the clock is by blowing the whistle. There is a reason the phrase is "blown dead".
@brianhayward8240 They also wave their arms from their chest outwards to signal dead ball which is exactly what the down judge did at the snap. Know why? Because it's gets too loud to hear a whistle.
Rams fan here. Minshew is definitely the better Quarterback it’s unfortunate they had Luke Getsy as OC and it didn’t pan out. Had high hopes for them after they beat the Ravens and ever since they fell apart.
If Aidan wasn't running for his life every other play, he could probably put together some very impressive drives. The O line needs a lot of work.
Luke Getsy's shit offense was the limiting factor in the offense of you couple that with not having someone to replace the production of Jacobs.
I am convinced Minshew was signed because they expected to get Kingsbury for OC.
I am a Raiders fan, and I would love to see AOC get a shot. walk on at Purdue University 6th on the depth chart works his way up to be a starter 4th round pick works his way up to starting last year and then for some reason we don't give him the shot the next year AOC is the raider answer and I know that most fans don't believe that but I believe that.
With a clean pocket Aiden can shred defenses with ease!!
Here I am a Chargers fan and rootin here for Aiden. It’s about the scouting, yeah 😅
Lolol I feel that bro
Deserved a sub, knowing AOC should have a fair chance ! I believed in him ever since I film studied his resume from Purdue ! 💯
If they’re smart, they’ll get him a running back, promote Norv Turner to quarterback/offensive coordinator coach whatever let him run the fucking offense
Sorry bro, I’m just gonna hit the like button and keep it pushing. Watching you praise AOC is just going to heat me up, cause you should’ve been made these, but they didn’t start him week 1. This season could have had more than 2 wins. Like my boy ALLaBorde Raiders said, Minshew is the reason we lose games, AOC has us in position to win, and isn’t the reason we lose. And he still doesn’t have a full season of games under his belt.
It’s horrible bro what a waste of a season
@@BigR365 I agree, Telesco threw this season away overpaying Menshew, then insisting that he start. I know it wasn't AP. Aidan is AP's guy. What a cluster Telesco caused this year. Chargers fans are laughing their a$$es off at us for hiring him. He can draft well, but other than that, he needs to keep his hands off of coaching decisions.
@@Navigator001$7.5 million/year for a backup QB is pretty standard. Minshew is not getting overpaid.
We have had the worst running game in the NFL this year. That is easily the number one reason for our two win season. Injuries on defense have also hurt badly.
AOC has had 3 or 4 OC’s in 2 years. I have a feeling he could have a career elsewhere if given a chance.
I'm glad someone else recognizes that AOC can hang in the NFL. He just needs a full season, he still hasn't even played 17 games, goes out there and outperforms Mahomes...
-just wanted to add that yes I am a Raiders fan and it's sad that only a few of the Raiders fan content creators give him any love, it takes a Seahawks fan to show what he's doing.
I agree !!! Aiden O’Connell is the best quarterback in Vegas and he has proven to be the best quarterback to beat the chiefs and slaughter the chargers last year!!!
Don't worry, if we don't bag Sanders, at least TB12 believes in Aidan too.
Yup! The SMART Raider fans know Aidan is a good QB! But everyone now wants the shiny Lamborghini. Only it won’t last long and isn’t reliable. Aidan can win games if the team set him up for success. But Raiders didn’t do that. They didn’t fix the Oline this offseason, they didn’t resign super stud Jacobs, they started Minshew instead of Aidan. Had they actually set Aidan up for success, then Raiders might be competing for the playoffs right now. Maybe Davante Adams would still be here as well. Raiders had plenty of money to sign guys this offseason. But their actions speak louder than and clear imo. They wanted a QB that will sell jerseys and stadium tickets. Pretty frustrating as a Hardcore Raider fan! Thanks for doing this video. GL to your Seahawks. RNFL
The back should of exposed his self as a option since he didn’t block nobody
I was so mad whe minshew started over AOC. It made no sense.
Thank you i felt a certain way also 👊🏾🏈
Nice breakdown of AOC and his talents.
Many of us feel AOC would be a great starter. Hes got the smarts, toughness accuracy and respect of hos team mates. Why the coaching staff wont acknowledge this, who knows?
I hope he gets a fair shot as well. He needs consistency. Heck! The whole team needs that. They are all young players (for the majority) who need to grow. Go draft a rookie and give AOC a year as starter and see what ya get. I think there will he quite a few surprised nay sayers.
Just my humble opinion.
Adian O'Connell when I watched the highlights of the game I said if he was on a good team he could be a pro bowler his with his talent I'm an eagles fan I believe in him he has great pockets presence he moves well in the pocket can make any pass he just needs a team hes better then ATLEAST 10-15 starters in the leauge but his OLINE sucks Bowers is only true weapon imo he needs to start and make a offense of game plan that benefits him
imagine if we had adam’s n jacob’s still
As a Raiders fan, don’t draft a QB this year. Take best player available at position of need or trade down for draft capital, and run it back with AOC as the starter next year, all assuming AOC continues to ball.
you right about aoc and he shouldve been playing the entire time. he has the most important attribute a qb can have, he throws the ball well.
i always enjoyyour videos and this is another good one. i dont really buy what youre saying about being unbiased though, youre starting to sound a lot like a fan.
I think highly of Aiden, but nobody around the organization and typically fans or youtubers support him. They don't know shit about football.
7:07 he could have hit over the middle with a tight bullet pass over the middle. IMO also AOC has had it worse than probably any QB ever 2 HC 4 OC and just now is about to hit his 17th game which is also insane
Minshew was terrible even in preseason. The qb competition was all a lie.
Glad to see others recognize the potential in AOC. Too bad our own fanbase doesn't.
nah we believe in him fam!!
We Woz Wobbed!!!
BigR, Please call the coaches for me and let them know Aiden is the real deal.
Give him an OLINE and a RB he could easily win you 10 games
AOC needs more development time and with that a run game and an offensive line If he has to leave the pocket, he's toast
Honestly if Brady can work with Aiden & sheduer we would have 2 elite franchise QB’s
Thank you so much for your video breakdown. I'm tired of so called Raider analyst who keep looking past AOC, to the draft. They are forever enterested in the next shiny thing, be it a QB or a defensive player. The Tucker TD was incredible, you saw the throw leaving early. Excellent. I saw how Tucker just had to open his arms, AOC dropped that mf right on his outer shoulder pad. I wet my pants. Draft 2 more dominate O-lineman & we're back in business. Then you can draft a QB in the 3rd-5th round. So no matter who's back there there is an OLINE that can protect the QB. THANKS AGAIN!!
If we would of started AOC since the beginning they would have a different record
LOL, the kid's on his FOURTH OC, third as a starter. Raiders should draft a QB but I'm not sure if they should give up the farm for a guy. Let AOC do more of what he did in the KC game and he should get his shot next year.
The kid works
I'd rock with AOC over drafting a future first round bust.
Exactly I don’t know why fans think top picks are guaranteed stars smh 🤦🏽♂️
@@BigR365 Yeah Picks in the top 5 for QB's never really work out. They're all backups on other teams within 2-3 years.
Wow that Chiefs secondary, should be in trouble in the playoffs. Will any team step up is the question.
Thats what ive been saying give Adien a shot ..
aidan is a victim of bad coaching on this staff. mcmoron almost ruined this kid. getsy was horrific as a play caller. as long as aidan progresses and continues to move this offense with turner as the o.c. i believe pierce will keep his job. smart play is draft a stud OL and protect this kid and he will be fine. his weakness is he runs like he is in quick sand but with the proper protection he can thrive because he has the talent and the arm strength and accuracy to be the number one QB moving forward. I believe in him. Maybe go after darnold from the vikings if he becomes a free agent to compete with him. But this team needs a few more lineman and i think this team will be fine. Defense will be healthy and re sign the upcoming free agents to be on the defense. win lose or tie raiders til i die!!!!!!!
Sure wish the Raiders coaching staff could see the clear no brainer choice between O’Connell and Minshew. I was at every Training Camp practice,….it wasn’t hard to see who the better Qb was. They had Adams, Bowers, Meyers, Mayer and Tucker to work with. AP’s bonehead choice destroyed the season. Adams began his time clock to find a way out after that decision. As a Raider fan, I have zero confidence the coaching staff will keep him no matter how good he plays.
Was actually the fired OC that selected him
Imagine Shedeur learning under Aidan for a year to fully develop Sanders 🫣🤯… Raiders would have two legit QBs on their squad… bruh
Or Ward. Either or, Aidan is a stud idc what y’all say. He did this in Purdue
Or you can get the guy who already puts you in a position to win a weapon like Travis hunter. Aiden throwing to Brock and TH is nuts
@@kennethbate2778 or both.
I demand that all Aiden haters reveal themselves and apologize to Aiden before the nation.
MAN UP. Admit to your mistakes.
With a broken thumb!😢
What we see on AOC the coaches cant
AOC should have started this year. Getsy should have never been hired. The Raiders would be better off if O'Connell started the season.
Raider fan here, he's not consistent. He can't scramble inside the pocket , you cant always count on your Oline, this aint the old school football anymore. He needs to pay attention to his blindside.
Half of my fellow Raider fans are morons they continue to insist that AOC sucks I think he's going to develop into a really good starting quarterback if they give him the reins and leave him alone
Raiders should hire you to scout for real or HC
The inability to scramble and pocket awareness is what limits a traditional pocket qb like aidan..
The Goat TB 12 did not scramble much
Not that many believe in him because hater are delusional 😂
Kansas City referees
We believe in him but not over Shadeur or Ward
They haven't proven shit and they both play against weak competition. To add to this Shaduers arm is weak
Kolton Miller is a bum
AOC should've started as QB1, we might still would've had DA17 on the team... 🥲
With what we were going to be paying Adams next year, I am glad we traded him. More money for us to upgrade our offense and keep our defense together. Adams is washed.
watch the ref on the top of the screen run in saying false start, if he wasnt stopping the play his job is to watch the line for any fouls and run towards any fumble he ran to say the play is stopped he knew there was no play so his responsibility to check the fumble was over
I've been saying this until I'm red in the face... WE HAVE A QB. I'm worried we are going to reach on a bad QB this draft. We need best player... thats how we got Brock.