How to play Shogi(将棋) -Lesson#6- Capture and Drop
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- I'll show you how to capture and drop a piece.
After I made this video, I noticed I've committed "two pawns in a file" (which is against the rules) in the example setup...
Sorry (-o-;)
Hello, Hidetchi san. As a chess player that is learning shogi, I've got to tell you that your content is awesome! Thanks for making our learning process easier with your great videos!
Did you end up learning it or not?
As I've said in the video, you can drop it on any vacant square with only those exeption I've mentioned.
And I've said that you drop a piece instead of moving a piece on the board, so that means when you have dropped a piece, you lose your turn to play and your opponent will make a play.
Hi, thanks for your comment.
We call it a "Komadai" in Japanese.
I like the fact that you take your time to explain everything clearly and slowly. Thanks for your videos.
Thanks for your kind comment.
Hope you enjoy my future videos, too.
We call it a "tray" in English.
when you capture the pieces.
Hope that helps
At 2:37 we (western America) usually call a spot like that a "graveyard." Because it's like we have killed the opponent piece and it goes to rest in the graveyard. This may not fit well since the pieces can come back in Shogi, but perhaps it still works.
Thanks for these videos man, I hope you return to making videos at some point.
We always use Chinese characters in Japan. The meaning of each character is the same between China and Japan.
These shogi pieces are invented in Japan, but it's just that we named them with Chinese characters as we always do.
It all depends on the position on the board. Sometimes a knight is the most valuable piece in a mating sequence, sometimes a pawn is the most valuable.
I believe it literally translates as "Shogi piece table" or something similar, so hidetchi's term was spot on. Though calling it a jail would be humorous.
your videos are simply fantastic, really appreciate it!
You drop a piece always with its unpromoted side up. I thought I mentioned it in this video. If we could drop pieces with them promoted, we'd have many Golds to drop and it would be a strange game.
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Crazyhouse and Bughouse (Chess Variants): when dropping a piece
nice, spawning was doubtfull in some occasions, thank you for clearing it out ^^, Hidetchi sensei.
Hi, thanks for leaving a comment.
I didn't understand what Mandarin Chinese means at first, but after I looked it up in my dictionary, I noticed it's the language spoken in Beijing area. It's Pu-Tong-Hua, right?
Oh, you learn Chinese by only using pinyin? So you mean you basically don't use Chinese characters and just use alphabets, like "Ni Hao, Wo Shi Zhon-Guo-Ren"? Hmmm, I see.
Ahh, after the coolness of "#4 - Special Lesson" I was expecting to learn some hissatsu waza upon capturing but this was a bit anticlimactic. In chess you kick, punch and Kinniku Buster your opponent's piece with your piece, then take them. It feels very good. :D
I'll show you how to capture and drop a piece.
After I made this video, I noticed I've committed "two pawns in a file" (which is against the rules) in the example setup...
Sorry (-o-;) sure you are
You could say that I saw the whole video just for the last advice. Actually, I'm left-handed 😅
The single act of dropping makes this game like 100X more fun then chess or checkers
Just wondering, what's your view on chess? You probably already got asked this question, so I apologize if this seems redundant. Oh you, and the anime Shion No Ou, both got me into this really awesome game, so thanks!
You drop a piece always with its unpromoted side up. So you'll have to wait for the next move to make it promoted.
Thank you hidetchi
@minicm122 It depends on what you want to do with it. I have both sets; I bring the travel-sized set everywhere with me. But the size of a sit-down set is easier to play with.
@TinyViet1990 You use "furigoma," or pawn toss. Details can be found in lesson 21. :)
Thank you for making these videos. One of my friends is an avid shogi player, and he wanted to get me into it, so i started watching these videos. It seems alot more tactical than chess, but i guess that's just me. I'll have to start saving up for my own board and pieces, but for the mean time i guess i can just play against my friend. Thank you again. Also, where is a trusted place to buy a board and pieces in the US? Anyone?
Is it better to get a travel kit for Shogi, or the one where you need to sit and play?
I just tried to watch a championship video and before they started one guy shook a bunch of pawns like dice and let them go and then set them up again. Is there an explanation or was it just tradition?
Ryou's work has never done
So basically when I capture a piece of my opponent it becomes mine? (I’m just starting to play this, it’s great, also seeing it was made 13 years ago)
Hi. It's just that you always drop a piece with its unpromoted side up.
Thanks a lot for your videos. They make it really easy to understand how to play shogi. Still I got a question because of one move you showed in this video. At 4:20 you moved your bishop and promoted it, after you captured a promoted piece. Does a piece promote after capturing a promoted piece? Or is it because it reached enimies camp?
13saturnus A promoted piece promoted because it reached, moved within, or out of the enemy camp. After promoting, it remains promoted and may capture.
You can promote a peice when you move to, in, or out of the enemy camp, in this case he moved out of the enemy camp, so he promoted.
@seishinryohosha It's not against the rules to do that, but it's common courtesy to move your opponent's piece to your komadai before even touching your piece.
Hey thanks for the video again Hidetchi, but what is the name of the piece stand in Japanese, I'm curious. I wouldn't understand the Japanese letters but how could I spell/pronounce it in english.
@EmperorTaizong No. It can only capture directly forward.
See lesson#21.
@winedragon No. The piece have to move AFTER being dropped to promote.
When can I promote a dropped piece? The next move I make with it? Let's say I dropped a pawn on the 7th rank. Then my opponent makes a move. My next move, can I promote and THEN move the pawn? Thanks.
@HIDETCHI but not a pawn, right?
you could call the stand the Drop stand or drop box :D
u might have said this in the video but when you place a piece down does that count as a turn or can u move after u place it
I want to ask, what happens if you capture a piece, and then put it on the enemy's camp can you promote it immediatly?
So you can even put a drop, for example, a Flying Chariot, right in front of a king and put it in check, or also promote it in the same turn that it was dropped?
You can't, of course.
Check is ou-te, checkmate is tsumi.
Hello HIDETCHI just want to say i hope you're doing well even though this video is over 12 years old xD i hope you're doing good thanks for these videos.
Hey. Can I ask you something? Let say I have a Pawn in hand. I want to drop my Pawn in the opponent camp. Once I drop my pawn, can I straight away promote it? By the way, how to say "check" and "checkmate" in Japanese?
its starting to get complicatet and yes what hapens when you put a pice in enemys camp dose it promote ore do you have to wait?
@p90killsyou Of course
wait could you drop a piece to a position that puts ur enemy king in check or even checkmate???
If you "drop" a piece can you immediately promote it? Or you have to wait another turn to promote? And once you promote a piece on the enemy camp, can you also immediately move it or you also have to wait another turn to move it? Thanks for the guides, I really wanna learn japanese chess or "shogi" since it looks more complicated than regular chess, and seems fun to come up with strategies on how to win the game
Pieces can promote once they move into one of the last three ranks, but dropping doesn’t count. Say that you dropped a pawn in the third to last rank (the one enemy pawns start in). If you had *moved* a pawn there it could have been promoted, but since you *dropped* it you couldn’t promote it the same turn. However, next turn you may move your pawn forward once and promote it if you desire.
@@deutschamerikaner Ahh thank you so much!!!!!
No problem. I’m new to shogi too so I know the feeling.
Oh, nothing's wrong.
How you drop is explained from 5:08.
omg i wanna play you so bad even tho i know i would lose :P but atleast i learn from the best :D
I think there is something wrong, In the video at 5:08, I can't hear anything. How do you drop a piece?
Shikamaru. I'm coming
@HIDETCHI so can i place it 1 space before promotion?
I don't think it should be called a graveyard. Shogi soldiers are never killed, so there is no need for graves. It also makes the game too grim. It just doesn't match the atmosphere of shogi. ^^; We just call them piece stands, or just "komadai."
you rock
actually I'm left handed it seems easier to move the pieces with it cause I write with it (I take Mandarin Chinese at my school so I know how to write some basic things like "Ni or something but I'm better with pinyin lol.
@graceoverall
i think "jail" could work to
Why would somebody want to drop a pawn on the last rank anyway?
Maybe to block a check
butterflyspinart ur right on the blocking part but I doubt anyone would block a check cuz very rarely in fact almost never in shogi will u find ur king on the last rank XD
Hearing this, isn't it then true that the Knight is invaluable for delivering checkmate, since it cant be blocked?
Afro Samurai yes as the enemy would have to either capture the knight or move the king a common tactic is where u pin the piece that can capture the knight and after the king moves drop a gold to where the king was before the check it's RLY effective :D
It's just like in Chess and Shogi's knight is weaker.
can i dorp a piece to capture other?
like dropping in the spot of a enemy piece
+Beyond The Universe No, you can drop a piece only on an empty square.
+Beyond The Universe no
and on one spot before enemy piece (so I can take his piece in my next round?), for example pawn ahead of a knight (to force knight go forward or capture in my next round)?
Yes, you can do that. It is actually used in many strategies. You cannot, however, use a pawn drop to put the king in checkmate (you cannot end the game on a pawn drop).
***** thanks for answer
Dảk wa
Does dropping a piece take up your turn?
+Animeloverotaku yes
+Animeloverotaku You should probably know by now, but the answer is yes.
***** Yes I figured it out, by how OP it can be,
I suppose you're right, haha. ^.^
I was interested in learning something about shogi but I give up. I can't remember which piece is which or rather: it costs a lot of time so that I have no idea what goes on in a position. When I look at a chess board I immediately understand what's going on, here it's just chaos. Of course it's possible if you put a lot of time in it but I don't have that time. Go seems much more accessible to a westerner.
Great lessons, I have one question: Can I drop piece on one spot before enemy piece (so I can take his piece in my next round?), for example pawn ahead of a knight (to force knight go forward or capture in my next round)?
Don't worry, I'm from China, I found it's challenging to learn it too. It's way more complicated than international chess and Chinese chess. The promotion, drop rules are the tricky parts.
The captive is brainwashed and used again as a spy. lol
?? oh thanks xD
2:36 STANDO?!
You should call the piece stand jail.
when are you allowed to drop a piece
In any of your turns
Horzinicla in addition as long as u have a piece and it has a legal drop :D
Except the Pawn. Look at lesson #9.
two pawn on a file hahahaha yes i came back to check here
@@LendonRyukira :)
I started plaing shogi because of the anime... wow im loser