Japanese idol culture, man... It's still going strong. Sure 70% of the blame goes to the weird fans, but the idol companies and idols themselves market it that way.
@@Lemonidas_of_Sourta i actually think south korea is worse and k netziens are truly scary these days. Multiple people have committed suicide as a result of online harassment.
I think another factor was that Kyoto Animation just didn't really do long series back then. Two seasons and a movie was more than pretty much all their other projects from that era got. This doesn't really seem to be the case anymore now that we're getting things like Sound Euphonium Season 3, so I could definitely see them returning to Haruhi when they have the option to running through to an ending.
@@solitaregames i'm sorry, i don't understand how your comment connects to everything else in this video. for the sake of everyone who is interested but don't have enough information about it, can you please elaborate further?
I hope so, but I’ve heard the possibility of Kyoani doing so is slim to non-existent leaning towards the latter. Supposedly, that’s why Satelight studio handled the Nagato Yuki spinoff in 2015. So, even when the spinoff was done, it wasn’t done through Kyoani. They don’t like adapting content they don’t own themselves anymore. Haruhi is one of those series. Kyoani is probably done with Haruhi.
Poor Bassist xD Feels bad for Aya Hirano, she's free to have relationship with whoever she wants, it's her life. Glad to see she's happy now Wonder if we will have season 3 if this didn't get out of hands
Ye it‘s had that effect on me as well. By the time I started it, I‘d watched a handful of non-mainstream series already (Secret of Haruka Nogizaka, Rosario + Vampire, Vampire Knight) but this one… yeah, tbh the Yukai dance was the reason I started it but this rly opened me up to SoL as a genre. I‘d joined a community on FB where ppl mentioned all the Lucky Star references and so that was the next one I checked out. What a time! Not that it‘s bad now tho
Can you plese tell me where I can find that info cause I would love it to be true, but I searched and cant find it... was it an afterword of volume 12 of the novel?
Nothing beats back then watching the endless eight arc when it was happening and every time a new episode came out, it was the same and everyone freaking the hell out. I actually liked that they did this, it showed what Nagato was going through, seeing the same thing over and over again, even tho for her, it was billions of times. If we freaked out over 8 episodes, now imagine if it was all the time.
For context this was the time period when generally streaming services for anime didn't exist, what you got are pirate sites. Back in that era receiving a file titled episode 4 may as well had been episode 3. Now you got the Endless Eight arc. It was an international "Am I having Alzheimer's?" moment.
I love those episodes - but then while I read the light novels I never watched the anime until I could just buy the set on disc. It's truly impressive that the animators took care to never show us exactly the same thing twice, to the extent of designing nine sets of clothing for everybody that all looks like things they specifically would wear.
I friggin loved looking at forums during this period. Watching people say oh look they're in front of store called ENDLESS and all the clothes were in stacks of 8.
Oh shit yeah, that one, the bullying one. Everyone involved in the bullying basically just got a slap on the wrist, hell even the master mind still got off scotsfree(he's still have the job as anime director, even now, he's the one who directed mushoku tensei anime). The Novel's Author however, who atleast supposed to be the collateral damage, become the casualty. The Novel flopped, making it to have rushed ending (from what i heard). Even the other novel that the author made is flopped after that scandal, i heard the author also has been stopped writing a few years later after that.
I can bring up Act-Age as another example, though be warned it will contain mention of SA. So, Act-Age was somehow able to compete with MHA and JJK as a manga despite not being a shonen but being published in the same magazine as them. However, it was cancelled after the author committed SA against two schoolgirls, which also caused its planned adaptations to be scrapped before they could even be made as the other people involved in Act-Age, such as the illustrator, didn't want to traumatize the victims by continuing the entire series
Aye Hirano may not appear as a new main character in anime series but she is still kicking and willing to appear her old iconic characters. It is confirmed that she will be back as Lucy in Fairy Tail 100 year quest anime. Also her theater performance as Makima is such as badass.
@@baltakateishes still doing plenty of voice acting, mainly for mobile games in the last few years. she is the va for beatrix and alexiel in granblue fantasy and botan in dragalia lost. there are others but i cant name them off the top of my head since i dont play them. gbf is my main. i still play that everyday
@@grandlancercuchulainn1509 Respect? No. Popular? The height of her popularity has passed. Mainstream. She's still a well known name, no doubt, but she's not necessarily a headliner like she was. The sex scandal very much derailed her career.
Aya Hirono was a victim of something all too common in idol culture. A perceived parasocial relationship with the audience that led to some of the most delusional shit possible.
While this is true, it's come out much later that she was a toxic bitch in her band career. This video observes her downfall from the perspective of the anime industry and her anime fandom, but the backlash against her originally came from her music fans, and those are more mature normies who didn't perceive her as an idol at the time. It just happened that the music fandom's beef with her got way amplified in the far more obsessive anime community.
I'll never forget the video I saw back then of this one ex-fan of hers coldly staring into his camera as he destroyed a Haruhi figurine while repeating "Kuso bichi" over and over. It was the epitome of unhinged and just served as another great reason why the otaku lifestyle is not something to be celebrated and encouraged.
It works both ways. If you decide to literally SELL that relationship to mentally ill losers you are then beholden to that dynamic. You can't have your cake & eat it maybe just have a normal voice acting career like everyone else idk!
Something not said here is that Aya Hirano herself was quite confrontational way before the scandal. At the time she was already planning to quit VA work and make it big as an actress, which means she... wasn't afraid of telling her fans off even for stupid stuff like the "Aya Style". By the time the bassist scandal happened, she had already burned bridges with the anime community. The reason why they aren't being adapted is simple, and I say this as someone who was a big fan of Haruhi back in the day, it's no longer relevant. This LN opened the floodgates for LN adaptations, of which there were extremely few before. Said LNs capitalized on part of the winning formula Haruhi pioneered, which is the wish fulfillment aspect to such a disgusting degree that right now, Haruhi is nothing special. Every other manga or LN adaptation is about some average school kid who has weird or magical people interested in him for some dumb reason. It was a product of its time. You had to be there to experience the craze and how special it was. A reboot or an attempt to adapt the other volumes would only highlight the issues nobody wanted to see at the time. Because right now they're rampant in the industry to the point they're no longer seen as a plus.
True. The same thing when I bust a nut for the first time and thought it was most amazing shit ever happened but after the 5th time, 50th time, the 100th time, it was never the same experience I felt when I bust a nut for the first time
Literally all Aya said regarding her career was that she hadn't gone into VA work planning to make it a permanent thing, and those "burned bridges" were with creepy otaku who'd formed obsessive parasocial relationships with her and couldn't handle learning that the voice of their precious goddess Haruhi actually fucks.
Just like Madoka Magica and the Monogatari series. They used to dominate anime forums and conventions, not so much now. Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, even Evangelion now that's actually over will eventually go the same way.
Man- I started getting super into anime when Haruhi was at its peak. Every anime dance vid included Hare Hare Yukai. At cons, at least 5 people were cosplaying Haruhi or wearing the uniform. I also swear that it was Haruhi that popularized putting 2000s anime characters into bunny girl outfits. And the amount of hype surrounding the Disappearance movie had to be seen to be believed. Even ignoring that- the anime itself was beautful. At that time, there weren't a lot of studios that could deliver the consistent quality KyoAni did (and continues to do). Personally? I hated Haruhi (the character.) She drove me nuts. I know that's the point and part of the story is to see her get better thanks to Kyon. But there was only so much I could do to tolerate her. I mostly enjoyed the visuals and watched purely for the animation. Now it's crazy. I swear to younger anime fans that Haruhi was THE Queen of Anime for a long time in the 2000s. But a majority of them have seen neither her nor Hare Hare Yukai. Between that and people forgetting Lucky Star, it can make me feel like I lived a fever dream in the 2000s.
Suzumiya Haruhi is the anime that turned me from any old kid who watches Japanese cartoons on Saturdays into an anime fan, this and Code Geass (Yes I know, I'm an Anime boomer).
@@OnigoroshiZero hey, I watch Haruhi first and I must say it is great but both are completely different. one had so many characters but managed to create one of the most loved protagonist of all time and the other limit itself while still managed to be a masterpiece
@@OnigoroshiZero Haruhi Suzumiya was the OG Gintama, apart from Lucky Star of course which was voiced by the very same VA's. No one is comparing Code Geass with anything, OP is merely placing Haruhi on the same ranks/greatness as the other GOAT animes that was released the same generation. Don't over-react and touch grass 😂😂
Ah yes, I belong to this generation. Such iconic non-mainstream animes like: Chrno Crusade, Gunslinger Girls, Rozen Maiden, School Rumble, Girls Bravo, DearS, Galaxy Angels, Ergo Proxy, Seto no Hanayome I guess it's time to rewatch those after such a long time
Watching Haruhi and then watching lucky star was one of the best combo because of how big Haruhi influences on lucky star and how it make you feel you have a friend in that fandom too
@@morganalabeille5004Idols prey on the wallets of mentally ill losers so theyre taking that gamble with every parasocial dogshit they do creating shortcuts to becoming a real celebrity
It was most likely inspired by a whole different incident involving an idol called Mayu Tomita, who also played an idol called Ai in a TV show called Secret Girls in 2011. She was stalked by an obsessed fan who kept sending gifts to her home address which she refused, idols never do this for obvious reasons and any gifts given are with strict rules and subject to examination by their agency for anything dodgy before handing them over. She was approached by her stalker after an event outside a train station who confronted her angrily about rejecting the gifts, when she refused to tell him why she refused the gifts he stabbed her several times with a pocket knife he was carrying on him. She actually did survive the incident but received several lifelong issues with partial blindness in one eye and issues moving her fingers. The fan was a shut in that became obsessed with her after watching her on TV, he admitted to carrying a knife to the event with the intent to kill her in court. This is just one example of parasocial weirdos doing something crazy but there are enough similarities and how it was a big story, still fairly recent leads me to think the story of Ai in Oshi No Ko was based on this.
Haruhi was so iconic, I used to own multiple Haruhi figures (some of my first anime figures ever!), a DVD, and I even got my parents to buy me a Haruhi novel from abroad. The 2000s and early 2010s were so good for anime.
Endless Eight was what killed it for me (and many others). They dropped the ball super hard. They had the biggest hit of the industry in their hands, everybody was waiting for the second season and 8 out of the 14 episodes ended up being basically the same. It should've been a two or a three-parter at most.
yep. I agree, no new light novels helped kill it, but what really did the series in was endless 8. By the time endless 8 had finished all hype for haruhi was gone. even the movie, as fantastic as it was, couldn't rekindle the hype. the problem was most fans saw endless 8 as Kyoani giving the finger to the fans. Basically there was a feeling in the anime fandom that kyoani was sorta forced into a season 2, and they had shown as a studio a tremendous reluctance to season 2s thanks to the flop that was Full Metal Panic! season 2. there was a feeling that Kadokawa had sorta forced their hand and was part of the reason why Kyoani stopped adopting other publishers works (and created their own in house publisher). as a result of the resentment kyoani felt for doing season 2, they sorta gave everyone a giant middle finger with endless 8. and as a result they tanked the series themselves just to say fuck you to kodakawa.
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr I know who worked on what season of FMP. fumoffu was a full cour of content. season 2 was another cour of content. the reception for fumoffu was much much better then it was for season 2.
Also Disappearance of Nagato Yuki is Canon Because that's where Alien Yuki traded places with Normal Yuki when she got sick after the Mountain Blizzard Mystery time travel Arc (Where Kyon had to save himself from getting stabbed in Disappearance of Haruhi the movie)
We're not gaslighting you! It fizzled out tremendously after 2010. The stuff that it did when it came out was fresh but looking back years later it doesn't hold up as well. New fans aren't going back to it and discussions about this anime don't really extend passed how popular it is. With the limited source material and it not being completed, there's not much to talk about the series. If the series were to get more material though it would definitely blow up again.
It was partly huge because it got to be the first exposure one generation got to a lot of ideas that aren't at all new but that you don't normally find all at once in the same place.
Because it was never that big. I've been watching anime since late 90s without missing a season. I started this when it first came out, and watched 6-7 episodes. Then I dropped it, and barely even heard about it since then, and I've been in dozens of forums related to anime and manga in the last 25 years. You should have been there in 2008 when Code Geass ended, Haruhi can't even begin to compare to what Code Geass did to the community for months.
I don't think people realize how big Haruhi Suzuniya was back then during thr 2006-2009 anime era. Up to this day, me and my friends still joke about that endless 8 bullshit we had to survivr watching. "You're a real dude if you survive endless 8"
Now I wish you could review Shakugan no Shana anime, and why it flopped so hard due to being rushed, which is very noticeable in the second and third season.
It's funny, I never seen the anime, but that character was everywhere. Like they'd have pics of her all over cons, she'd be on the cover of anime mags or your con badge, lots of cosplayers, clips of her show on AMVs, all of that. The internet wasn't what it is today where if I see images of Uzaki-Chan popping up at cons without ever hearing about her and I could easily google her to see what series she's from.
I still pray to the anime Gods to this day, that this series would come back one day in my lifetime...before shit turns for the worse, like the voice of Nagato Yuki who is currently doing gravure modeling which is often a gateway to straight up doing 18 +Adult Video making.
I never saw an episode of Haruhi Suzumiya, but I did notice it was around. On at least two occasions I'd see someone wearing her uniform just walking along the street or in Forbidden Planet (pop culture shop chain in the UK).
I think part of the success was the fact that they had Kyoto animation making the series. The story really benefited from the studio's care with the source material. I rarely rewatch anime but every couple years I rewatch Haruhi.
Thank you for this, I loved the show but wasn't in the loop for the fans because of the insanity. I've been doing a recent rewatch of the series to revisit the show again in 2024. To see how i still feel about the characters.
Seriously, The Clowns sending Death threats were never fans. No real fan would send death threats over Someone finding some happiness with another person.
You say that, but behaviour like this is depressingly common amongst intense fandoms in the idol industries not just in Japan but also in Korea and China too. It's why No Dating rules are so prevalent because a lot of companies not only acknowledge this kind of behaviour amongst fans, but also run with it and monopolize it, marketing this image of perpetual "purity" and faux "obtain-ability" amongst their idols by banning them from dating, which in turn fosters much more intense (and financially lucrative) parasocial relationships between the fans and their idols. The industry is really flippant and ruthless because as much as these companies and fandoms will expect an idol to sacrifice their dating life, education, health and more for them under intense grueling schedules, they're incredibly superficial and youth-obsessed and will be just as liable to ditch an idol because they gained a miniscule amount of weight, turned a year too "old" (with "old" being potent deemed anything mid-laye 20s) or changed their haircut to something fans didn't like. So it is hardly like even if you do your utmost to live like the most perfect idol you will experience a long & loyal career (far from it).
Dammit! i erased the endless 8 from my memory! i don't want to relive that painful experience! and i hate haruhi, she was unredeemable after the episode where she was trying to force a kiss on a the drunk mikuru.
Man, this is too nostalgic . I don't really remember any ending from the series or movie . But is it Haruhi finally realise that all the thing she fantasies about like Espers, time traveller are actually happened , and they are her closest friend? Like it totally so depressing to her , as still believing those are not real, cause there's no clear proof provided, but in actuality , they are real , only that she doesn't know
The fandoms can be really bad at times. Makes us all look bad. Damn Eltingville Club jerks. If this series does come back they'll need to find a new studio to animate it. Hope it does come back, loved this show.
I love Haruhi Suzumiya and I hope one day It makes a comeback. Also talking about " comeback " everyone was invited but the basis dude was probably at home thinking about his crush ready for breakfast excited for work then breaking news and his whole world changed. Poor basis as a guitar / piano and violin player I feel bad for that guy. Besides that wow I guess you can say only god knows what really went down that day. Cool video. ^_^
The movie is considered to be the greatest anime movie of all time. It’s true, the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is considered a masterpiece for what it is!
Genuinely glad to see she’s doing better! Whenever someone reports on what happened to Aya, they don’t talk about what happened next. I’m so glad to see she’s moved on and is still being supported by actually sane ppl.
Still praying for a Season 3 🙏🏻 I think if he pulls off one more light novel and its mini stories instead of episodic, then itll be more likely. Cuz the episodic light novels like dissociation and intrigues are worth a feature film
4:54 - Seeing this brings new context to that one season of Aggretsuko... ...not to mention the currently airing series "The many sides of voice actor radio."
And now, flash forward to 2024, and the new anime dance trend is Idol (Oshi No ko) and that one anime that foresaw the old Dora the Explorer dance's popularity (Mashle: Magic and Muscles).
I absolutely loved this anime back in middle school. I then read the spin-off manga that was based on the movie which makes Yuki the main character. The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan, which got me into RomComs.
Also worth noting: In the early 2010s Kyoani moved to almost exclusively making anime that they owned the completely rights to. It allows them to get a greater slice of the pie, so adapting a Kadokawa work is less likely. That said I feel like they'd probably make an exception for Haruhi.
I still have trauma from the Endless Eight and yes, I watched every painstaking episode of the Endless Eight. It got to a point where I was just looking for any perceivable difference in the episodes, like their bathing suits or yukata or perhaps the situation being slightly different or slightly changed dialogue. By the end of it I could feel a genuine sense of insanity creeping into my mind. I would even start remarking to myself about which bathing suit or yukata looked better on the girls.
Three things: 1. The bonkers shit about the Endless 8 isn't just that it was the same script for two months. It's that, except for the credits, they didn't reuse a single frame of animation. It's a master class in using music, framing and line delivery to change the mood of a script. That leads to point 2: 2. The studio that put out Haruhi, Kyoto Animation, was the target of a brutal attack back in 2019. They're back in business, though, and if high school band PTSD flashback Sound! Euphonium season 3 is any indication, they're better than ever. Good animation is hard work, though, and it takes a lot of turnaround time if they're doing it ethically. KyoAni also probably has projects that they started before the attack that they want to finish up before taking new things on. 3. You're right about the money being important. Anime is advertising, and without something big to advertise, that's a lot of money going out without a clear return on investment.
Good thing is that Aya Hirano has still voice acting roles this year beside of her theatrical performances. She voice acts Vegapunk/Lilith in One Piece and has some upcoming voice acting roles such as Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest. By the way, she’s already married.
One thing lots of people don't realize is that tanigawa never intended for haruhi to be a series. He only initially wanted to write the first book which had an open ending and was somewhat conclusive on its own in that regard. But because the book blew up so much (even before the anime was made) he caved into the pressure to keep writing and turn it into a series. Thing is he's been winging it since and it worked initially because he put out some really good stuff. But the last books felt really stale in terms of writing style and he was clearly using a lot of filler for pages. Even at one point, kyon joked that he doesn't even know what he's talking about anymore and that he's just rambling. The biggest issue is tanigawa doesn't have an ending in mind because he originally never intended to end it, it's the main reason why the novels were so slow and why he took such a long hiatus. And with how much haruhi blew up, the safer option for him is to never actually end the story and keep things the way they are as to not kill of the legacy. Imagine how much a bad ending would destroy the legacy of a series like this, even I probably wouldn't try to do it in that situation.
If you haven’t read the novels they are fucking incredible. They are on Amazon and free audio books on youtube by fans. It does have a very satisfactory ending, with like a could there be more ending. But there doesn’t need to be. Would love to see it be adapted though.
Literally had a friendship start and somewhat end with this show. Met the girl in middle school and we bonded over liking the same show, and I later introduced her to my friend group bc she was also new to the school that year. At first things went pretty good, but we started having a lot of fights bc she kinda expected both me and our other friends to rally around her and do stuff for her just like Haruhi. Huge superiority complex, and was overly competitive over the smallest things too. If you didn't go along with her behavior then you were against her. I swear it's like she was a Haruhi kin or something (if you're from tumblr you prob have some idea what this means). After highschool we all kinda realized she was pretty hard to keep around as a friend. Long story short, maybe don't try to be the unlikeable "god" protagonist from an anime. Also never even heard of this scandal and I'm a little surprised that I haven't. The scandal itself is not all that surprising though. I used to cosplay and even though I wasn't all that great at it in my opinion, I kinda had smth similar happen. I can imagine/ kinda already know that idols deal w this bullshit a million times worse.
When I read about how she slept with everyone in the band but the bassist I shed a tear for the dude. That was just plain unfair. Not even a pity handy-j from her.
I remember this anime, and that stupid dance. I hated it, though it was overrated. But I especially hated it when I heard of the hate thay woman got for having a life. Glad to see it didn’t slow her down. Some Korean pop stars have commited suicide over that.
@Isaac-gh5ku the author of Haruhi is up for another season or reboot because Studio Deen butchered the anime Endless eight Arc only was supposed to last three chapters but studio Deen. Screwed up really really bad like Promised Neverland season 2 bad
@TeaBurn they run on the old 1960s 70s 80s business model of Let's do things backwards Instead of actually adaptating the light novel word for word We'll promote the novel by cutting scenes out adding scenes that aren't even in the novel and make it one long commercial
Not to mention the anime started as a light novel series, which is also really possible. The hardcover English releases are out of print and like $1000 on ebay lol
Have you seen Ascendance of a Bookworm it had 3 seasons of the anime and is now getting renewed for a 4th season. It gets more seasons than other popular isekai series out there
idk.. Season 1 was just story telling perfection, I had no need for a Season 2 or more. Because Season 1 is kinda like Simpsons, it sure has continuity but it sometimes also references itself. also! Aya Hirano voiced Misa Misa from Death Note.. if I remember correctly
I always assumed it was the endless 8 episodes that killed it, that it was obvious the studio was just cheaply saving on animation and production costs by using the same episode over and over with very minor changes, or like that they ran out of budget or sth. Hm. (That arc sucked hard though for real)
I like how people nowadays hates slime isekai due to 6 episodes are all meetings. But that add to the world building. Damnit this anime has 8 episodes that is literally the same.
Make that two series and a film... the anti-SOS brigade arc would definitely require a film. But yes, we seriously need the two or three more novels to complete the story - with the short story releases hopefully showing how much the fandom still wants this maybe that'll happen... in less than a decade... hopefully!
Nah, I think it's because the Voice Actress got a seggs scandal who made her into hiatus almost quit her job as a voice actress. That video is scattered around the internet that time. I think it's still exists
I remember late 2000s. Kind of hard being an anime fan because it still was being conflated with Western animation. The tones and the culture are just so different and it was confusing. Also, anime was in a slump at that point, between the awesome 90s-early 00s to the sort of rebound in quality during the late 10s.
To anyone worried about the Haruhi books not having an ending - they do! You sort of have to read it yourself to see it as an ending, though, 'cause it doesn't sound particularly conclusive when you're just listing the events of it. It's more a thematic conclusion. Haruhi Suzumiya was always going to end one way - Haruhi's divine will assured that. Therefore, Tanigawa (the author) didn't actually have to write the words "happily ever after," he just had to let you know that Haruhi had faith those words would come true. It took eleven books to make clear to Kyon that Haruhi believed in a happy ending. And that's where it ended - book eleven. And now there's a twelfth book and a thirteenth on the way and they aren't epilogues set ten years later or anything - they're just more Haruhi, because we can imagine what that epilogue ten years later would look like, and I love it. Good books, those. They make you think. I recommend anyone give 'em a read, regardless if they've seen or liked the show. (Of course, if you've seen the show, skip to book five.)
Haruhi is my favorite anime of all time and even tho of course having the anime continue would be incredible for me I also think ending it with the movie was perfect. I know it left more questions than answers and It was such an open ending but IMO it peaked so fucking hard in the movie with such Climax, production value, direction etc that if it never gets continuation I'm fine with it. Great video !! PS: how dare you disrespect my god Haruhi. She's a sweetheart PS2: FUCK THOSE LOSERS SENDING DEATH THREATS. AYA HIRANO IS GOATED
This anime has shaped a generation, sadly it’s a generation that was at its prime before the anime boom of the mid 2010s. It was a smaller and more niche ya know? Along with the Host Club anime, Naruto, Bleach, Gundam Wing, and that ending song from Inuyasha that played at 5:55 am. Times when fillers and spin offs made up more than half of an anime’s run time. Now most of the weebs from that era have either grown up or have just wandered around the internet speaking of the legends of old. The legend of Haruhi.
I had heard a Jaoanise criminal was a fan of this series and the song they dance too and of the scenes in this anime refer to S..de . and so tgis this anime played a huge role in shaping the criminal mind set now I am not too sure but this is what I heard a long time ago
In all honesty, I would love a season 3 of this show, but it might be better to reboot the series. The anime was out in 2006 and its almost 20 years since and their is a bunch of nothing. You had to have read the LN or the 20 mangas that came out to know what happened. I thought they were testing the waters with the Nagato Yuki spin-off, to see if people were still interested in the franchise and they are. Yet we still get nothing. I remember a stupid event that Kyoto Animation did where they hid a bunch of frames for a Haruhi project and after all the frames were found and posted it wasn't the reveal of a season 3 but a music video. That pissed off the fans so much.
I think the animation studio nearly getting burnt down may have been a factor in all this, too. Perhaps not a telling factor, but it definitely would have been an issue to deal with.
As someone who lived through the k-on and Haruhi era and all the moe era it's very much a product of the time. It doesnt need to come back and doesnt hold up aswell i remembered it to be. Today's k-on is laid back camp and as for Haruhi equivalent I guess Frieren Is as popular as Haruhi was back then.
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Seriously though, the thought that someone is getting death threats because they are dating someone is just down right insanely stupid
The way japan is going with the low birthrate, men be simping like crazy.
Amer.. wait wrong country, Japan!
Or south korea it happens alot unfortunately.
Japanese idol culture, man... It's still going strong. Sure 70% of the blame goes to the weird fans, but the idol companies and idols themselves market it that way.
@@Lemonidas_of_Sourta i actually think south korea is worse and k netziens are truly scary these days. Multiple people have committed suicide as a result of online harassment.
Haruhi was a crystallization of the decade’s anime tropes and was a founding member of the current anime zeitgeist.
I think another factor was that Kyoto Animation just didn't really do long series back then. Two seasons and a movie was more than pretty much all their other projects from that era got. This doesn't really seem to be the case anymore now that we're getting things like Sound Euphonium Season 3, so I could definitely see them returning to Haruhi when they have the option to running through to an ending.
not to mention the death of the director in the arsonist incident.
@@solitaregames i'm sorry, i don't understand how your comment connects to everything else in this video. for the sake of everyone who is interested but don't have enough information about it, can you please elaborate further?
@@jonglopez5400 The director of animation died in the Kyoto animation arsonist attack.
I hope so, but I’ve heard the possibility of Kyoani doing so is slim to non-existent leaning towards the latter. Supposedly, that’s why Satelight studio handled the Nagato Yuki spinoff in 2015. So, even when the spinoff was done, it wasn’t done through Kyoani. They don’t like adapting content they don’t own themselves anymore. Haruhi is one of those series. Kyoani is probably done with Haruhi.
Sound Euphonium is Kyoani's own IP so not surprising they are willing to make more anime for it unlike Haruhi
Poor Bassist xD
Feels bad for Aya Hirano, she's free to have relationship with whoever she wants, it's her life. Glad to see she's happy now
Wonder if we will have season 3 if this didn't get out of hands
"The three Bs you should never date:
1: Bassist
2: Bassist
3: Bassist"
She is doing fine, She is still active va lucy from fairy tail
This was the anime that made me go from a Toonami / Adult Swim, dubbed only casual into an omega cringe weeb
A classic will do that to ya
NICE PFP BTW
There is absolutely nothing omega cringe about being a (modern definition) weeb. However, being a dub slave IS omega cringe.
What is that PFP?
Ye it‘s had that effect on me as well. By the time I started it, I‘d watched a handful of non-mainstream series already (Secret of Haruka Nogizaka, Rosario + Vampire, Vampire Knight) but this one… yeah, tbh the Yukai dance was the reason I started it but this rly opened me up to SoL as a genre. I‘d joined a community on FB where ppl mentioned all the Lucky Star references and so that was the next one I checked out. What a time! Not that it‘s bad now tho
In the mighty words of Avenged Sevenfold, "Welcome to the Family!"
Haruhi ends with Kyon an Haruhi waking up 5 years after High-school they are married
Really?
@@MASTEROFEVIL yeah in the last volume before hiatus, that was mentioned.
Can you plese tell me where I can find that info cause I would love it to be true, but I searched and cant find it... was it an afterword of volume 12 of the novel?
@@reyesjustin07gamilin volume 12? Where cause I cant find it searching... was it an afterword?
@@RedKing64 its the last light novel before the hiatus and as far as my memory is concerned they weren't married
Nothing beats back then watching the endless eight arc when it was happening and every time a new episode came out, it was the same and everyone freaking the hell out.
I actually liked that they did this, it showed what Nagato was going through, seeing the same thing over and over again, even tho for her, it was billions of times. If we freaked out over 8 episodes, now imagine if it was all the time.
For context this was the time period when generally streaming services for anime didn't exist, what you got are pirate sites. Back in that era receiving a file titled episode 4 may as well had been episode 3. Now you got the Endless Eight arc. It was an international "Am I having Alzheimer's?" moment.
I love those episodes - but then while I read the light novels I never watched the anime until I could just buy the set on disc. It's truly impressive that the animators took care to never show us exactly the same thing twice, to the extent of designing nine sets of clothing for everybody that all looks like things they specifically would wear.
I friggin loved looking at forums during this period. Watching people say oh look they're in front of store called ENDLESS and all the clothes were in stacks of 8.
If we are talking about an anime that was Cancelled/Dropped/Discontinued due to a scandal I reckon that nothing beats Kokoro Connect.
Oh shit yeah, that one, the bullying one. Everyone involved in the bullying basically just got a slap on the wrist, hell even the master mind still got off scotsfree(he's still have the job as anime director, even now, he's the one who directed mushoku tensei anime). The Novel's Author however, who atleast supposed to be the collateral damage, become the casualty. The Novel flopped, making it to have rushed ending (from what i heard). Even the other novel that the author made is flopped after that scandal, i heard the author also has been stopped writing a few years later after that.
I can bring up Act-Age as another example, though be warned it will contain mention of SA. So, Act-Age was somehow able to compete with MHA and JJK as a manga despite not being a shonen but being published in the same magazine as them. However, it was cancelled after the author committed SA against two schoolgirls, which also caused its planned adaptations to be scrapped before they could even be made as the other people involved in Act-Age, such as the illustrator, didn't want to traumatize the victims by continuing the entire series
@@Giovansbilly seriously wtf, it's really a wasted potential hghffh.
Kyon is the main character. Haruhi is just the title character.
Kintama!!!°
Disagree. Haruhi is the main character, but it's told from Kyon's perspective.
@@Mr_DPZ I literally watched a video about video games that have the pov and the protagonist.
@@Mr_DPZ ...So Kyon is the protagonist.
Theres an arguement to be made that haruhi is the mc but if thats true then its the first time ive ever seen an anime told from a 2nd person pov
Aye Hirano may not appear as a new main character in anime series but she is still kicking and willing to appear her old iconic characters. It is confirmed that she will be back as Lucy in Fairy Tail 100 year quest anime. Also her theater performance as Makima is such as badass.
I figured she moved on to VTubing.
@@baltakateishes still doing plenty of voice acting, mainly for mobile games in the last few years. she is the va for beatrix and alexiel in granblue fantasy and botan in dragalia lost. there are others but i cant name them off the top of my head since i dont play them. gbf is my main. i still play that everyday
Aya is done she fucked up
@@catsbyondrepair Yeah sure, except she is more popular, mainstream and respected than 99% of the voice acting industry.
@@grandlancercuchulainn1509 Respect? No. Popular? The height of her popularity has passed. Mainstream. She's still a well known name, no doubt, but she's not necessarily a headliner like she was. The sex scandal very much derailed her career.
Aya Hirono was a victim of something all too common in idol culture. A perceived parasocial relationship with the audience that led to some of the most delusional shit possible.
While this is true, it's come out much later that she was a toxic bitch in her band career. This video observes her downfall from the perspective of the anime industry and her anime fandom, but the backlash against her originally came from her music fans, and those are more mature normies who didn't perceive her as an idol at the time. It just happened that the music fandom's beef with her got way amplified in the far more obsessive anime community.
I'll never forget the video I saw back then of this one ex-fan of hers coldly staring into his camera as he destroyed a Haruhi figurine while repeating "Kuso bichi" over and over. It was the epitome of unhinged and just served as another great reason why the otaku lifestyle is not something to be celebrated and encouraged.
@ElFreakinCid What?! No the just people the make us look bad and that's it.
@@ElFreakinCidIt's fine for the lifestyle it's the person that is always the problem
It works both ways. If you decide to literally SELL that relationship to mentally ill losers you are then beholden to that dynamic. You can't have your cake & eat it maybe just have a normal voice acting career like everyone else idk!
Something not said here is that Aya Hirano herself was quite confrontational way before the scandal. At the time she was already planning to quit VA work and make it big as an actress, which means she... wasn't afraid of telling her fans off even for stupid stuff like the "Aya Style". By the time the bassist scandal happened, she had already burned bridges with the anime community.
The reason why they aren't being adapted is simple, and I say this as someone who was a big fan of Haruhi back in the day, it's no longer relevant. This LN opened the floodgates for LN adaptations, of which there were extremely few before. Said LNs capitalized on part of the winning formula Haruhi pioneered, which is the wish fulfillment aspect to such a disgusting degree that right now, Haruhi is nothing special. Every other manga or LN adaptation is about some average school kid who has weird or magical people interested in him for some dumb reason.
It was a product of its time. You had to be there to experience the craze and how special it was. A reboot or an attempt to adapt the other volumes would only highlight the issues nobody wanted to see at the time. Because right now they're rampant in the industry to the point they're no longer seen as a plus.
well said.....Haruhi was extremely huge and everything after haruhi while predictable and generic just seems much better to what haruhi was.
True. The same thing when I bust a nut for the first time and thought it was most amazing shit ever happened but after the 5th time, 50th time, the 100th time, it was never the same experience I felt when I bust a nut for the first time
Literally all Aya said regarding her career was that she hadn't gone into VA work planning to make it a permanent thing, and those "burned bridges" were with creepy otaku who'd formed obsessive parasocial relationships with her and couldn't handle learning that the voice of their precious goddess Haruhi actually fucks.
Just like Madoka Magica and the Monogatari series. They used to dominate anime forums and conventions, not so much now. Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, even Evangelion now that's actually over will eventually go the same way.
And Fate Series, anything by type moon, and all the gundams at last.
Man- I started getting super into anime when Haruhi was at its peak. Every anime dance vid included Hare Hare Yukai. At cons, at least 5 people were cosplaying Haruhi or wearing the uniform. I also swear that it was Haruhi that popularized putting 2000s anime characters into bunny girl outfits. And the amount of hype surrounding the Disappearance movie had to be seen to be believed.
Even ignoring that- the anime itself was beautful. At that time, there weren't a lot of studios that could deliver the consistent quality KyoAni did (and continues to do).
Personally? I hated Haruhi (the character.) She drove me nuts. I know that's the point and part of the story is to see her get better thanks to Kyon. But there was only so much I could do to tolerate her. I mostly enjoyed the visuals and watched purely for the animation.
Now it's crazy. I swear to younger anime fans that Haruhi was THE Queen of Anime for a long time in the 2000s. But a majority of them have seen neither her nor Hare Hare Yukai.
Between that and people forgetting Lucky Star, it can make me feel like I lived a fever dream in the 2000s.
Suzumiya Haruhi is the anime that turned me from any old kid who watches Japanese cartoons on Saturdays into an anime fan, this and Code Geass (Yes I know, I'm an Anime boomer).
Please, don't compare this with Code Geass. Code Geass is the GOAT in anime, Haruhi is nothing in comparison.
@@OnigoroshiZero How dare you
@@OnigoroshiZero hey, I watch Haruhi first and I must say it is great but both are completely different.
one had so many characters but managed to create one of the most loved protagonist of all time and the other limit itself while still managed to be a masterpiece
@@OnigoroshiZero Haruhi Suzumiya was the OG Gintama, apart from Lucky Star of course which was voiced by the very same VA's. No one is comparing Code Geass with anything, OP is merely placing Haruhi on the same ranks/greatness as the other GOAT animes that was released the same generation. Don't over-react and touch grass 😂😂
Me too :)
Ah yes, I belong to this generation.
Such iconic non-mainstream animes like: Chrno Crusade, Gunslinger Girls, Rozen Maiden, School Rumble, Girls Bravo, DearS, Galaxy Angels, Ergo Proxy, Seto no Hanayome
I guess it's time to rewatch those after such a long time
Good taste :)
Daaaaaaam nice list never id see someone this qualified on a youtube comments section
i only watched ergo proxy from this list
Watching Haruhi and then watching lucky star was one of the best combo because of how big Haruhi influences on lucky star and how it make you feel you have a friend in that fandom too
Thank you for making this. You scared me for a second.
I thought something happened to the good people at Kyoto Animation again-
I wonder of the Oshi no Ko series was lightly inspired by the story of Aya Hirano.
Given what idol fans in general are like I don't think it is. Stories like hers are Very common.
@@morganalabeille5004Idols prey on the wallets of mentally ill losers so theyre taking that gamble with every parasocial dogshit they do creating shortcuts to becoming a real celebrity
It was most likely inspired by a whole different incident involving an idol called Mayu Tomita, who also played an idol called Ai in a TV show called Secret Girls in 2011. She was stalked by an obsessed fan who kept sending gifts to her home address which she refused, idols never do this for obvious reasons and any gifts given are with strict rules and subject to examination by their agency for anything dodgy before handing them over.
She was approached by her stalker after an event outside a train station who confronted her angrily about rejecting the gifts, when she refused to tell him why she refused the gifts he stabbed her several times with a pocket knife he was carrying on him. She actually did survive the incident but received several lifelong issues with partial blindness in one eye and issues moving her fingers. The fan was a shut in that became obsessed with her after watching her on TV, he admitted to carrying a knife to the event with the intent to kill her in court.
This is just one example of parasocial weirdos doing something crazy but there are enough similarities and how it was a big story, still fairly recent leads me to think the story of Ai in Oshi No Ko was based on this.
Haruhi was so iconic, I used to own multiple Haruhi figures (some of my first anime figures ever!), a DVD, and I even got my parents to buy me a Haruhi novel from abroad. The 2000s and early 2010s were so good for anime.
Endless Eight was what killed it for me (and many others). They dropped the ball super hard.
They had the biggest hit of the industry in their hands, everybody was waiting for the second season and 8 out of the 14 episodes ended up being basically the same.
It should've been a two or a three-parter at most.
yep. I agree, no new light novels helped kill it, but what really did the series in was endless 8. By the time endless 8 had finished all hype for haruhi was gone. even the movie, as fantastic as it was, couldn't rekindle the hype. the problem was most fans saw endless 8 as Kyoani giving the finger to the fans. Basically there was a feeling in the anime fandom that kyoani was sorta forced into a season 2, and they had shown as a studio a tremendous reluctance to season 2s thanks to the flop that was Full Metal Panic! season 2. there was a feeling that Kadokawa had sorta forced their hand and was part of the reason why Kyoani stopped adopting other publishers works (and created their own in house publisher).
as a result of the resentment kyoani felt for doing season 2, they sorta gave everyone a giant middle finger with endless 8. and as a result they tanked the series themselves just to say fuck you to kodakawa.
@@arizona_anime_fanKyoani only worked on The Second Raid and Fumofuu comedy season. Gonzo was the studio credited for s1 of FMP.
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr I know who worked on what season of FMP. fumoffu was a full cour of content. season 2 was another cour of content. the reception for fumoffu was much much better then it was for season 2.
@@arizona_anime_fanI wouldn’t be surprised at all
All this could have prevented is to reduce the Endless Eight to 3 or 4 episodes, or just don't do the Endless Eight arc for the anime at all.
Also Disappearance of Nagato Yuki is Canon
Because that's where Alien Yuki traded places with Normal Yuki when she got sick after the Mountain Blizzard Mystery time travel Arc (Where Kyon had to save himself from getting stabbed in Disappearance of Haruhi the movie)
I swear im being gaslit by the entire anime community about how massive this anime is, yet rarely hear its name mentioned
We're not gaslighting you! It fizzled out tremendously after 2010. The stuff that it did when it came out was fresh but looking back years later it doesn't hold up as well. New fans aren't going back to it and discussions about this anime don't really extend passed how popular it is. With the limited source material and it not being completed, there's not much to talk about the series. If the series were to get more material though it would definitely blow up again.
@Guaz ah that'd make a lot of sense mostly because i got into anime around 2014
It was partly huge because it got to be the first exposure one generation got to a lot of ideas that aren't at all new but that you don't normally find all at once in the same place.
You haven't heard about the endless eight? Amazing!
Because it was never that big. I've been watching anime since late 90s without missing a season.
I started this when it first came out, and watched 6-7 episodes. Then I dropped it, and barely even heard about it since then, and I've been in dozens of forums related to anime and manga in the last 25 years.
You should have been there in 2008 when Code Geass ended, Haruhi can't even begin to compare to what Code Geass did to the community for months.
I don't think people realize how big Haruhi Suzuniya was back then during thr 2006-2009 anime era. Up to this day, me and my friends still joke about that endless 8 bullshit we had to survivr watching. "You're a real dude if you survive endless 8"
Great video man I was a kid that got into anime around 2007-2008 and I can confirm that haruhi was indeed impossible to avoid
Now I wish you could review Shakugan no Shana anime, and why it flopped so hard due to being rushed, which is very noticeable in the second and third season.
Wow i forgot that anime. I think i saw the first season and thats it.. have to check it out. Thanks.
@@Robplayswithdragons Me too. I only saw the first season on TV. And that's kinda it.
@@Isaac-gh5ku 2nd and 3rd season are ok but a major downgrade in story and character progression from the first season.
It's funny, I never seen the anime, but that character was everywhere. Like they'd have pics of her all over cons, she'd be on the cover of anime mags or your con badge, lots of cosplayers, clips of her show on AMVs, all of that. The internet wasn't what it is today where if I see images of Uzaki-Chan popping up at cons without ever hearing about her and I could easily google her to see what series she's from.
I still pray to the anime Gods to this day, that this series would come back one day in my lifetime...before shit turns for the worse, like the voice of Nagato Yuki who is currently doing gravure modeling which is often a gateway to straight up doing 18 +Adult Video making.
Not always, the wrestler Asuka did a few gravure videos and she never got into making adult stuff.
Drops the hardest videos, leaves for a couple months, comes back and does it again, refuses to elaborate.
My G
I never saw an episode of Haruhi Suzumiya, but I did notice it was around. On at least two occasions I'd see someone wearing her uniform just walking along the street or in Forbidden Planet (pop culture shop chain in the UK).
Haruhi series catapulted the Figma anime figures. Sadly Gen Zs from FB barely know what Figma is or have no idea what Haruhi is.
Appreciate the cameo from my New York Anime Fest video.
I think part of the success was the fact that they had Kyoto animation making the series. The story really benefited from the studio's care with the source material. I rarely rewatch anime but every couple years I rewatch Haruhi.
NAHHH bro was cooking hard on this one gad damn
Almost burnt down the kitchen with this one
Thank you for this, I loved the show but wasn't in the loop for the fans because of the insanity. I've been doing a recent rewatch of the series to revisit the show again in 2024. To see how i still feel about the characters.
I hope you also watch The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. It really ties the series together IMO.
Alright I'm going to watch this anime immediately.
Seriously, The Clowns sending Death threats were never fans. No real fan would send death threats over Someone finding some happiness with another person.
You say that, but behaviour like this is depressingly common amongst intense fandoms in the idol industries not just in Japan but also in Korea and China too.
It's why No Dating rules are so prevalent because a lot of companies not only acknowledge this kind of behaviour amongst fans, but also run with it and monopolize it, marketing this image of perpetual "purity" and faux "obtain-ability" amongst their idols by banning them from dating, which in turn fosters much more intense (and financially lucrative) parasocial relationships between the fans and their idols.
The industry is really flippant and ruthless because as much as these companies and fandoms will expect an idol to sacrifice their dating life, education, health and more for them under intense grueling schedules, they're incredibly superficial and youth-obsessed and will be just as liable to ditch an idol because they gained a miniscule amount of weight, turned a year too "old" (with "old" being potent deemed anything mid-laye 20s) or changed their haircut to something fans didn't like. So it is hardly like even if you do your utmost to live like the most perfect idol you will experience a long & loyal career (far from it).
It's obsession, not love
Dammit! i erased the endless 8 from my memory! i don't want to relive that painful experience!
and i hate haruhi, she was unredeemable after the episode where she was trying to force a kiss on a the drunk mikuru.
Man, this is too nostalgic . I don't really remember any ending from the series or movie . But is it Haruhi finally realise that all the thing she fantasies about like Espers, time traveller are actually happened , and they are her closest friend? Like it totally so depressing to her , as still believing those are not real, cause there's no clear proof provided, but in actuality , they are real , only that she doesn't know
The goat has dropped for months
The people have starved long enough!!
The fandoms can be really bad at times. Makes us all look bad. Damn Eltingville Club jerks. If this series does come back they'll need to find a new studio to animate it. Hope it does come back, loved this show.
Yeah this is the anime that was created at the Anime Studio that was the victim of one of the worst arson attacks in Japan's history.
The movie is soooooooo perfect. Ive rewatch it multiple times
I love Haruhi Suzumiya and I hope one day It makes a comeback. Also talking about " comeback " everyone was invited but the basis dude was probably at home thinking about his crush ready for breakfast excited for work then breaking news and his whole world changed. Poor basis as a guitar / piano and violin player I feel bad for that guy. Besides that wow I guess you can say only god knows what really went down that day. Cool video. ^_^
A guy commenting what he would say if he were Klaus from American Dad really sums up this kind of guy
I really hope we get another season one day. Also, glad to see you at it again Guaz!
YO AZURE MUCH LOVE TO YOU BRO THANK YOU FOR STILL TUNING IN
...I always wanted to hear about what really went down with Haruhi. And yeah I remember Aya's issue. Dayum. Made sense.
Love the mid video skit. Your comic timing is great :)
The movie is considered to be the greatest anime movie of all time. It’s true, the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is considered a masterpiece for what it is!
Genuinely glad to see she’s doing better! Whenever someone reports on what happened to Aya, they don’t talk about what happened next.
I’m so glad to see she’s moved on and is still being supported by actually sane ppl.
Still praying for a Season 3 🙏🏻
I think if he pulls off one more light novel and its mini stories instead of episodic, then itll be more likely. Cuz the episodic light novels like dissociation and intrigues are worth a feature film
4:54 - Seeing this brings new context to that one season of Aggretsuko...
...not to mention the currently airing series "The many sides of voice actor radio."
A lot of videos about this series keep showing up for me might have to watch
And now, flash forward to 2024, and the new anime dance trend is Idol (Oshi No ko) and that one anime that foresaw the old Dora the Explorer dance's popularity (Mashle: Magic and Muscles).
I absolutely loved this anime back in middle school. I then read the spin-off manga that was based on the movie which makes Yuki the main character. The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan, which got me into RomComs.
Also worth noting: In the early 2010s Kyoani moved to almost exclusively making anime that they owned the completely rights to. It allows them to get a greater slice of the pie, so adapting a Kadokawa work is less likely. That said I feel like they'd probably make an exception for Haruhi.
my boy has dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I still have trauma from the Endless Eight and yes, I watched every painstaking episode of the Endless Eight.
It got to a point where I was just looking for any perceivable difference in the episodes, like their bathing suits or yukata or perhaps the situation being slightly different or slightly changed dialogue.
By the end of it I could feel a genuine sense of insanity creeping into my mind. I would even start remarking to myself about which bathing suit or yukata looked better on the girls.
Three things:
1. The bonkers shit about the Endless 8 isn't just that it was the same script for two months. It's that, except for the credits, they didn't reuse a single frame of animation. It's a master class in using music, framing and line delivery to change the mood of a script.
That leads to point 2:
2. The studio that put out Haruhi, Kyoto Animation, was the target of a brutal attack back in 2019. They're back in business, though, and if high school band PTSD flashback Sound! Euphonium season 3 is any indication, they're better than ever. Good animation is hard work, though, and it takes a lot of turnaround time if they're doing it ethically. KyoAni also probably has projects that they started before the attack that they want to finish up before taking new things on.
3. You're right about the money being important. Anime is advertising, and without something big to advertise, that's a lot of money going out without a clear return on investment.
Good thing is that Aya Hirano has still voice acting roles this year beside of her theatrical performances. She voice acts Vegapunk/Lilith in One Piece and has some upcoming voice acting roles such as Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest. By the way, she’s already married.
One thing lots of people don't realize is that tanigawa never intended for haruhi to be a series. He only initially wanted to write the first book which had an open ending and was somewhat conclusive on its own in that regard. But because the book blew up so much (even before the anime was made) he caved into the pressure to keep writing and turn it into a series. Thing is he's been winging it since and it worked initially because he put out some really good stuff. But the last books felt really stale in terms of writing style and he was clearly using a lot of filler for pages. Even at one point, kyon joked that he doesn't even know what he's talking about anymore and that he's just rambling.
The biggest issue is tanigawa doesn't have an ending in mind because he originally never intended to end it, it's the main reason why the novels were so slow and why he took such a long hiatus. And with how much haruhi blew up, the safer option for him is to never actually end the story and keep things the way they are as to not kill of the legacy. Imagine how much a bad ending would destroy the legacy of a series like this, even I probably wouldn't try to do it in that situation.
4:15 maybe because i was born in 1970 but... why is it big deal that a celebrity has a boyfriend? Did these fans think they have a chance.
If you haven’t read the novels they are fucking incredible. They are on Amazon and free audio books on youtube by fans. It does have a very satisfactory ending, with like a could there be more ending. But there doesn’t need to be. Would love to see it be adapted though.
Literally had a friendship start and somewhat end with this show. Met the girl in middle school and we bonded over liking the same show, and I later introduced her to my friend group bc she was also new to the school that year. At first things went pretty good, but we started having a lot of fights bc she kinda expected both me and our other friends to rally around her and do stuff for her just like Haruhi. Huge superiority complex, and was overly competitive over the smallest things too. If you didn't go along with her behavior then you were against her. I swear it's like she was a Haruhi kin or something (if you're from tumblr you prob have some idea what this means). After highschool we all kinda realized she was pretty hard to keep around as a friend. Long story short, maybe don't try to be the unlikeable "god" protagonist from an anime.
Also never even heard of this scandal and I'm a little surprised that I haven't. The scandal itself is not all that surprising though. I used to cosplay and even though I wasn't all that great at it in my opinion, I kinda had smth similar happen. I can imagine/ kinda already know that idols deal w this bullshit a million times worse.
This video was funny af and very entertaining and now I have a new anime to watch. Keep doing more videos man you’re good
Except the bassist...
I've got to check this out, and I appreciate the venture bros clip. Nice.
When I read about how she slept with everyone in the band but the bassist I shed a tear for the dude. That was just plain unfair. Not even a pity handy-j from her.
I remember someone from then haruhi team posted an art of haruhi as an adult in her college days
I remember this anime, and that stupid dance. I hated it, though it was overrated. But I especially hated it when I heard of the hate thay woman got for having a life. Glad to see it didn’t slow her down. Some Korean pop stars have commited suicide over that.
K-Pop sucks.
@@oscarramos5681 How is that relevant?
Another good indicator that some people are too hopeless to have a life outside pop culture. 😑
They can't now because Kyoani fire
The Directors died
The original digital files and animation still are also gone
Huh, now that's another reason why we don't have the third season.
@Isaac-gh5ku the author of Haruhi is up for another season or reboot because Studio Deen butchered the anime
Endless eight Arc only was supposed to last three chapters but studio Deen. Screwed up really really bad like
Promised Neverland season 2 bad
Damn. I almost forgot about that. Then again, other people can pick up the IP and do a remake, bringing back the old VAs.
@@Crazycoyote-we7ey What hasn't Studio Deen butchered? I'm looking at you, Fate/Stay Night.
@TeaBurn they run on the old 1960s 70s 80s business model of
Let's do things backwards
Instead of actually adaptating the light novel word for word
We'll promote the novel by cutting scenes out adding scenes that aren't even in the novel and make it one long commercial
Goat at work
Not to mention the anime started as a light novel series, which is also really possible. The hardcover English releases are out of print and like $1000 on ebay lol
I enjoyed the Endless 8. Each episode is different enough. And there is always some new plot point that kept me hooked.
Aya Hirano Lucy Heartfilia my forever fav #1 goat waifu and Haruhi is one of my goats too 😍😍😍
Have you seen Ascendance of a Bookworm it had 3 seasons of the anime and is now getting renewed for a 4th season. It gets more seasons than other popular isekai series out there
idk.. Season 1 was just story telling perfection, I had no need for a Season 2 or more. Because Season 1 is kinda like Simpsons, it sure has continuity but it sometimes also references itself.
also! Aya Hirano voiced Misa Misa from Death Note.. if I remember correctly
I always assumed it was the endless 8 episodes that killed it, that it was obvious the studio was just cheaply saving on animation and production costs by using the same episode over and over with very minor changes, or like that they ran out of budget or sth. Hm. (That arc sucked hard though for real)
I like how people nowadays hates slime isekai due to 6 episodes are all meetings. But that add to the world building. Damnit this anime has 8 episodes that is literally the same.
cool video explaining stuff, man. I wish you all the luck for the next ones.
Good video bro , I throughly enjoyed it 🔥🔥🔥
Make that two series and a film... the anti-SOS brigade arc would definitely require a film. But yes, we seriously need the two or three more novels to complete the story - with the short story releases hopefully showing how much the fandom still wants this maybe that'll happen... in less than a decade... hopefully!
Nah, I think it's because the Voice Actress got a seggs scandal who made her into hiatus almost quit her job as a voice actress. That video is scattered around the internet that time. I think it's still exists
I remember late 2000s. Kind of hard being an anime fan because it still was being conflated with Western animation. The tones and the culture are just so different and it was confusing. Also, anime was in a slump at that point, between the awesome 90s-early 00s to the sort of rebound in quality during the late 10s.
To anyone worried about the Haruhi books not having an ending - they do! You sort of have to read it yourself to see it as an ending, though, 'cause it doesn't sound particularly conclusive when you're just listing the events of it. It's more a thematic conclusion. Haruhi Suzumiya was always going to end one way - Haruhi's divine will assured that. Therefore, Tanigawa (the author) didn't actually have to write the words "happily ever after," he just had to let you know that Haruhi had faith those words would come true. It took eleven books to make clear to Kyon that Haruhi believed in a happy ending. And that's where it ended - book eleven.
And now there's a twelfth book and a thirteenth on the way and they aren't epilogues set ten years later or anything - they're just more Haruhi, because we can imagine what that epilogue ten years later would look like, and I love it.
Good books, those. They make you think. I recommend anyone give 'em a read, regardless if they've seen or liked the show. (Of course, if you've seen the show, skip to book five.)
Haruhi is my favorite anime of all time and even tho of course having the anime continue would be incredible for me I also think ending it with the movie was perfect.
I know it left more questions than answers and It was such an open ending but IMO it peaked so fucking hard in the movie with such Climax, production value, direction etc that if it never gets continuation I'm fine with it.
Great video !!
PS: how dare you disrespect my god Haruhi. She's a sweetheart
PS2: FUCK THOSE LOSERS SENDING DEATH THREATS. AYA HIRANO IS GOATED
You would think anime fans were used to time loop episodes, higurashi had been out already and the first few episodes were just time loops
1st time in this channel, and i loved it! cheers from argentina
Thank you my man!
This anime has shaped a generation, sadly it’s a generation that was at its prime before the anime boom of the mid 2010s. It was a smaller and more niche ya know? Along with the Host Club anime, Naruto, Bleach, Gundam Wing, and that ending song from Inuyasha that played at 5:55 am. Times when fillers and spin offs made up more than half of an anime’s run time. Now most of the weebs from that era have either grown up or have just wandered around the internet speaking of the legends of old. The legend of Haruhi.
Also studio Deen doesn't want to give up the rights
thank you for the explanation my man, I was wondering all this years what was the appeal for this series.
I had heard a Jaoanise criminal was a fan of this series and the song they dance too and of the scenes in this anime refer to S..de . and so tgis this anime played a huge role in shaping the criminal mind set now I am not too sure but this is what I heard a long time ago
I remember all the hype. I got the first system on dvd and dropped it after the second episode.
In all honesty, I would love a season 3 of this show, but it might be better to reboot the series. The anime was out in 2006 and its almost 20 years since and their is a bunch of nothing. You had to have read the LN or the 20 mangas that came out to know what happened.
I thought they were testing the waters with the Nagato Yuki spin-off, to see if people were still interested in the franchise and they are. Yet we still get nothing.
I remember a stupid event that Kyoto Animation did where they hid a bunch of frames for a Haruhi project and after all the frames were found and posted it wasn't the reveal of a season 3 but a music video. That pissed off the fans so much.
I think the animation studio nearly getting burnt down may have been a factor in all this, too. Perhaps not a telling factor, but it definitely would have been an issue to deal with.
Haruhi fan for life. 😊
Great video, also, awesome Megadeath t-shirt.
Bassist get no love. Lol. 😂😅 I chose the wrong instrument. 😂😅
nah that lil skit got my subscription lmfaooo
As someone who lived through the k-on and Haruhi era and all the moe era it's very much a product of the time. It doesnt need to come back and doesnt hold up aswell i remembered it to be. Today's
k-on is laid back camp and as for Haruhi equivalent I guess Frieren Is as popular as Haruhi was back then.
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You're telling me, that fuckin' horse is an anime fan????
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