Tiny House Tiny Stove - Hobbit Stove Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- A review of our Hobbit Stove after a year of use. I go over the accessories it came with, clean the stove and start a fire.
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Keep in mind that I've only used it for a couple weeks, that being said, so far so good ruclips.net/user/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM . Using it at 8 ft. by 8ft. deer blind that is insulated. I have to keep the door cracked for it to get enough air to burn, but that is very likely the wood I've used. Much better quality than I expected for the price. Now if I can just take it easy in the beginning it won't be 90 degrees in my blind. All in all it seems like a keeper.
Trust me, the best way to clean the stove glass is to use wetted paper, news paper is ideal, and dab a little ash onto it from the firebox. Then rub this on the glass.........it cleans off even stubborn burnt on residue and comes up sparkling.......No Vinager, No wire wool. No scratched glass. I tried all kinds of ways before someone told me about the ash on wet paper, and once I tried, there was no looking for any other method. Great video, thanks for taking the trouble to share with us :)
Someone else suggested this awhile back. We tried it and it works great. We have been using that method since the start of this winter.
Thank you..
+1
I was about to uggest this. It's because you can make lye out of ashes
Wrong. The best way to clean the glass is to properly burn, and use the correct wood.
The glass should stay clean if you're doing it right
Love this video and your Hobbit Stove! I really cannot imagine why anyone would install a wood stove without: (1) a glass door (for ambiance and to keep an eye on the fire); and (2) a cook top (for practical purposes and placement of a vessel to keep moisture in the air). You've done it right. Your Tiny House looks inviting and lovely!
I've owned two cast-iron wood stoves. Neither had a window. You don't miss it if it's not there.
An update having had the stove for a month now. It’s absolutely great and for its size generates an amazing amount of heat. The room it’s in is 5 metres by 5 metres with a ceiling 2.7 metres high and from scratch it warms the room within about 15 minutes. It’s set in what was previously a small Victorian open fireplace and it looks great. Positives are its size, controllability, obvious build quality, ease of use and cleaning and its heat output. The only negatives are that you need to cut logs to a small size (no more than 6 or 7 inches really) and because of that you have to keep loading it quite often. We never try to set a fire to run all night so that’s not a problem for us. Overall we’re delighted with it and I thoroughly recommend it.
The most satisfying video I’ve seen in a long time. It started perfectly when you closed that door it roared. Cleaning the glass was def necessary lol
Instead of steel wool, use some of the ash and make a paste with water (it's basically lye). Rub in circles, it works within seconds and washes off with water to leave a perfect, scratch-free window.
Steel is softer than glass so it should not scratch it.
@@TheAvkdutch not all steels are softer than all glasses, so need to be careful.
the old "use razor blades to clean glue off glass" applies... you can easily cut some glass with a razor blade.
I learned long ago that a bit of ammonia on a paper towel or old cloth takes the burnt oils right off glass. Much easier. Don't use on metal.
@@neshobe I always just change the glass in the morning
I had wood stoves for 50+ years , I have a Vermont Casting Resolute in my den and a Jodie 600 in my living room and burn about 4-6 cords a year , never clean the glass with anything but water and paper towel the hard stuff I use a razor blade and water never had problems and the ceramic glass is perfectly clean and clear, using steel wool or scruffy pad will scratch the ceramic glass my friend destroyed his glass using steel wool ! Also burning at higher temperatures will keep the glass clear , yes sometimes I open a window when it’s 20 degrees out because the stove is running a little to hot , but that my fault because I add to much wood LOL. Good luck ! P.S. love your stove !👍🏻
I put a Woodstove in my mobile home about a year ago and used all kinds of wood and enjoy the smell of juniper the best when outside, but if you like the smell inside, I put a small piece on top of the stove and as it warms it up the place smells great.
Might not be the smartest move to put juniper on top of a wood stove.
Take note when burning wood in a stove you do not clean the ash out wood is always best burning on a thick bed of ash doing it this way gives you good heat and a slow burn rate so you use a fraction of your wood for the same heat generated. If your using coal to burn then you do clean the ash out as you did. I've had a wood burner for over 45 years and burning wood on a bed of thick ash is the proper way to use a wood burning stove. Try it you will be amazed it should of informed you in the stoves instruction manual of how to use the stove with different fuels.😕
Thanks for the advice I will give it a try.
But this is a bottom draw stove.... I do leave an inch of ash (minium) in my wood heater but the air dose not come from underneath the fire rather infront.
Come to think of it if you block the bottom grate you could cause issues with airflow.
Just a thought.
Karl Gibson s
Important - you may have this written somewhere else, but it is useful to mention max size of wood lengths, and max burn time on low burn rate, for those of us doing night time estimating. and comparing of stoves.... How many hours before fire dies out on fully loaded stove.. .. Just add this information into the video description, for future viewers....
Thanks for the info!
great vid. to clean the glass i use a damp cloth with ash from the fire
dave swords, I will have to give that a try.
The stove will burn the glass clean if you burn it correctly. The thermometer is for the chimney, you have to burn the stove hot enough to burn the creosote off it's part of maintenance.
Try building up a top down fire by placing some heavy logs at the bottom and gradually lighter to the top.
This way you can load a lot more wood from the beginning and the fire will burn longer and cleaner.
Door glass is actually a transparent ceramic that can be cleaned using a wet fabric and ashes.
Not mny people kows that. I call this method upside down fire , use it to build my camp fiure at the camp .
I have a very well insulated cabin 520sq feet. I use 1 these for quick heating. It’s great and it’s how I make my morning coffeee. I only burn oak in my bigger stove but I like more aromatic wood in the hobbit. Oak makes the best lye. GOD Bless you and keep you safe
Steel wool will damage the glass! Try dipping wetted news paper into the ash and wipe the glass with it! You'll be surprised how well it works! Otherwise, I appreciated your review! Thank You! BestRoy
I just dip a wet wipe in the ash and it cleans the glass very well.
It'd have to have something harder than steel to scratch glass. Glass is harder than steel.
@@harrymills2770 lol. Take a piece of steel and use it on your windshield. Tell me what you see.
Only suggestion I have is maybe put a link in the description for where to purchase. Otherwise, great little video.
Hi, Is the stove pipe not a little close to the wooden wall behind it? Even with a heat shield you would need a gap behind of about 15cm right? How hot does the shield get Mr Renegade?
I don't know if the set up would meet normal building code. However, I did extensive testing with an infrared thermometer and even when the stove was running a bit too hot the wood behind the shield was under 70 degrees Celsius.
To get a little more movement of heat from your stove...since heat basically rises...buy a bimetal fan and set it on top of the stove. After 40 years we did this last year and it certainly helps some and even works when the electric pwer goes out!
I have thought about getting one of those. Thanks for the recommendation!
Hey, I'm looking at a stove to install in my travel trailer. This stove interest me. Do you live in your tiny home in the winter? Where do you live in Canada as I migrate from BC to alberta & back where as you probably know winter temps range from -2 to -50 Celsius. At what temps were the stove overheating your place.
Hi there, i really struggle to generate heat from my hobbit stove. How would you suggest use getting as much heat as possible from the hobbit?
Did you put your ashes in your toilet? If so that is not a good idea, throw them outside...you could burn your house down.
It’s probably a composting toilet
Wood ash reduces oder and aids in waste decomposition
@@rm2439 Ashes start fires, I dont recommend putting in bags...lots of houses burn down because of ashes in trash cans and cardboard boxes. Not criticizing...just my experience in the fire service...and that time my dad set our house on fire. Cheers and great video.
@@rollingupmysleeves Nah ashes don't start fires, negligence does. Let them cool and don't be an idiot and you have NO problems with ashes.
He’s trying to keep his arse warm.
Thanks for trying sharing such an in depth review. We’re fitting one this spring to replace our open fire and looking forward to it very much. Seeing the little chap burning away has made us look forward to it even more 👍🏻
Let me know how it goes. I really need to add a wood burning appliance to our current house. I already have the hobbit stove, BTU wise it is a little undersized for our coldest weather but would likely be sufficient for 90% of the year.
Installing it here could potentially be a back up plan if some other ideas fall through.
@@canadianrenegade39 Will do 👍🏻
looking to get one, But I would have windows about a foot away from the stove, on either side. Living in Canada, I wonder if the stove is too close to the windows, thoughts?
Great vid. Just a helpful hint, if you are getting that build up on the glass it means that you are not getting a good burn. Try adjusting the air intake a bit.
You can't get a good burn with these stoves....anyway unless your stove has an excellent air wash system theres no way to keep this from happening....
Explain. Please
If your air wash (small lever in the back to the R of the stovepipe is open you'll get a very good airwash over the glass. For burning wood, once you have a good fire going, the draught should be just slightly open with the airwash entirely open. These stoves are designed to have upper air for burning wood, and lower air for burning coal. Thus: COAL: open draught, mostly closed wash; WOOD: mostly closed draught, open wash.
I've had a Hobbit for several years now, and have never had that amount of soot/ash build up on the glass. When firing hot (as designed) it will burn any residue off the glass and keep it clean.
Glass cleaning tip: dampen a paper towel with plain water, and dip in ash. Use the wet ashed paper towel to clean the inside of the glass. The ash is a natural abrasive and won't scratch glass like steel wool might. Follow with un-ashed damp paper towel.
Our Hobbit does wonders keeping our living room and dining room (about 360 sq.ft) in an uninsulated 110yo house comfortably warm. I use compressed sawdust fuel bricks sawed in half as fuel. It keeps the expensive gas furnace from coming on much, and the cats LOVE to sprawl in front of it!
@@bw4t Thanks for that information. I've owned a Hobbit myself for 4 years and have been using the air intakes all wrong. Thought both were closed for wood. That's really made a difference thanks.
Can you tell me how well it works in say -15 to -30 degrees Celsius weather?for example, at night, how long does the fire last before you need to put more wood in?
Get a metal can with a metal lid for your ashes. One hot spark could easily start a fire. Nice Stove!
You know I actually heard about an apartment building that burned down because someone put there cigarette out in a pot full of peat moss. So the metal can is probably a good idea.
How long burn time from full fire box to empty. Will it stay burning throughout the night once banked off for the night.
We have the hobbit stove in our tiny house and we have the extra air intake controls. However we aren’t sure they make that much of a difference. Last winter it was -30 Celsius and our stove kept us very warm and comfy. However the Hobbit stove is not CSA approved and insurance companies may give you a hard time about it. We tried several companies and finally have insurance through HUB international.
Do you still have/use your hobbit stove? I'm curious, for -15 to -30 degree Celsius weather, how often are you having to put more wood in?
Would be nice if you put a link to a shop for this
Looks like the hinge pin on your door has worked it's way up and almost out of the bottom hinge. I don't know if i'm seeing this correctly, but please take a look.
Also...saw a video where they said to leave some ashes as a bed in the bottom of the stove. Not sure if I agree, but...
What did you use for a heat sheild behind the stove? I am buying a stove this week. Great video and very informative
Did you use an adapter to use a 6" pipe instead of 4"? It looks like a 6" pipe immediately after the 90* piece coming out the back.
It's a 4" inch insulated pipe (pellet stove pipe). The elbow out of the back of the stove is uninsulated.
Cleaning the glass... I have found that the glass always gets dirty because most folks are not burning their fire/stove hot enough. Many people want it to last a long time between adding fuel so they damper it down. Usually it is closed up too much which in turn, creates a creosote buildup within the stove pipe and the glass.
Nice review on this little stove. Never heard of it before but looks like this may be what I am after. Thanks.
Generally the film on the glass is from start ups before we get it to temperature. After that we get very little build up.
Wow this little stove looks legit! Looks very well sealed
You got a few things wrong, wood burns from the top down always leave a good bed of ash on which to start the fire, only riddle with solid fuel it burns from the bottom up, flue temperature is more important than stove temperature so the temp gauge should be on the flue pipe about 6"-9" up. A straight flue is a happy flue top outlet is always best for draw, if the glass is getting black all over you are either doing one of three things wrong, moisture of wood is to high, like wet, it's unseasoned or you are under burning, I have a hobbit stove in my camper van the glass never gets black, but then I'm a chimney sweep and stove installer here in the UK so know how they work best, take my advice you will get a better performing stove.
Make sure you have a Co alarm fitted at least three feet from the stove but on the wall behind it and 6" down from the ceiling, that is recommended by the governing body here in the UK (Hetas) but you should check for the USA.
We have good draft, I don't even prime the flu but I will have to try and use the rear damper more then the bottom one and see if that helps it burn clean. Thanks for the input.
Hi, when installing in a camper van, did you go for the room sealed version with the air inlet pipe ? Also as an installer have you any experience of detachable chimney cowls?
How big is your space? Looking to get one for myself.
How many times a day do you set a fire? How long does that fire you set in the video last?
Do you think that a tiny stove would be good enough for emergency power outages? Usually only a few days but may be better than nothing to get the chill out of the air inside the house? I don't have the money for the regular size ones, and I am looking for a way just to stay more comfortable for the few times I may need a heat source. Any opinions or suggestions?
A good fire is always nice in a power outage.
@@kulak8548 Yes! That's what I'm trying to figure out how to do without a lot of expense. I wonder if I'd need a permit for a hobbit stove. They permit us to death around here. I think those stoves are so cute!
hello i have looked into hobbit stoves before and decided it is a good way to go this morning not haveing one in m room i was thinking of the litte nineteen dollor stove electric i am using an had been thinking of portable one and the one i thought of this morning could set on a fire prevention plate and have a flexable if they had flew out the window available and wood burning as i want and move to apartment or house or room or tiny home or camp trailer is there such was wondering
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thinking of this for a650 sq ft tiny house. do you think it would work ?
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I am considering a small wood stove for my THOW. Just curious if you ever read about having an air intake system that draws fresh air from the outside? I have heard this is an important feature when using a wood burning stove in a small space. It doesn't seem like The Hobbit has that feature, but you don't seem to have any issues as a result. Just curious.
Our fresh air intake is in the wall between the propane range and the hobbit stove. I cover it in one of the older videos where I am doing the first test run of the hobbit stove. I have heard about direct air intakes that go straight into the wood stove but I think they are pretty rare and unnecessary.
Thanks!
I use old rags, like clothing and socks and such, with ash and water.
It just works so well.
Can that ash be used in compost , or garden? just learning skills
Where did you buy it from and what was the total cost in Canadian $
light the stove from the top; and always burn hot at full supply of air; otherwise your not burning clean and polluting; get some mass to store the heat from your stove; whats the exhaust gases temperature? good stove would have 100-150C (215-300 F); if its higher you are wasting heat and polluting
That's cute. I have a big (huge) vintage cast iron wood stove. Several hobbits can fit in it.
thanks for posting. What are the dimensions of your tiny house? I am looking at getting a wood stove for my 40-foot storage container which I want to convert to a tiny home myself.
does it have a built in afterburner (where air creates a secondary burn of the smoke?)
Pretty sure it does.
How well does this do if you want to bank the fire overnight to go to bed? I grew up with a large woodstove that during the winter my parents would top it off with wood and then mostly close the air so that it would slow burn over night and we could revive it in the morning. Is this something that you can do with the Hobbit?
Because the fire box is so small this technique doesn't work as well as in a larger stove.
What is average cost in us dollar? Is piping found in local stores (Lowell or Home Depot?)
I'm always curious of the pricing of these units also as they are built for a niche market, tiny homes and are usually over priced, but people with tiny homes just have to have one no matter the cost, just because....I would say a stove like this is at least 1000.00 + us....The opening(collar)is probably 3-4" and goes into double walled pellet stove pipe....
How long are the "these size" pieces of wood you placed in the fire after it was established.
8 inches or so off of memory. It's been a few years since I used the stove. We are in a normal sized energy efficient house now. (4 kids....)
@@canadianrenegade39 Would you be interested in selling your stove?
This is the stove I wanted originally, but I went with the Cubic Mini Grizzly. The only reason is that, it would of cost me an arm and a leg to ship to Canada, the exchange and such too. How much did it end up costing you in Canadian currency?
Can I install that in the basement of my house?
What is the brand, and what did it cost. Does the instructions tell you what sq ft it heats. Where did you purchase it.
salamanderstoves.com/the-hobbit-stove/
There might be suppliers in North America that might be able to sell with less shipping. When I ordered, must 5 years ago now there wasn't other options so I ordered direct. Also check out the cubic mini stoves. I heard they were pretty good too, although I don't know if they are certified for residential use.
You have a link so i can buy this ??
I have yet to install my Hobbit and thought I would watch some videos, so here I am lol. You mention you would have liked it to come with a poker but I noticed you failed to mention you can use one of the tools provided to push and pull the grate riddling lever on the right between the lower door hinges. That way you shouldn't need to use a poker (according to the instruction), does it not work or did you not know about it at the time you made the video?
A little secret. If you want to clean the glass. Use the ash left over from the previous burn (soft ash) Put a bit of water on a rag dip it in the ash and wipe over the glass. No money spent. Always works.
Really nice video. Our tiny cottage in BC presently has a large 1880's, made in Moncton, wood stove with 6" chimney. You think your model of wood stove would be good in my utility trailer? Maybe both. Nice presentation. Thanks.
Hey - How long does one load last for roughly please?
Start the fire from the top to get a solid flame all the time, this way you avoid sot on your glass. Sot on your glass just shows that you are not using the stove in a proper and healthy way. Sot is dust that burns to the glass. There should not be any smoke. I advise you to look at some films from Finland, they know how to do it the right way. Most people, including me, start up a wood stove the bad way. Also, your chimney will not be full of ash.
And put the stove as low as possible,. Heat travels upwards, and you will not get the low parts of the room warm.
The point is to have a good upward draft, right?
I think maybe that depends on where the air's coming from. This hobbit stove has air coming from underneath. It's an updraft design. Then again, I know nothing about how other air is ported in and around the burn chamber. I just see the air in from underneath.
I do think to burn clean, you want fresh oxygen in at the top, to burn the off-gassing from the heated wood. I'm still trying to figure out why they did away with the flu damper, which I learned to use after the fire got going. The old-timer, who was no physicist, said "You want to keep the heat from all going up the chimney in a rush." I always felt like the trick was to get it going HOT and then damp it down, more from the top than from the bottom, but some from each. Damp it too much, you get smoke. Damp it too little, you use too much fuel.
Modern stoves, with secondary air in the top, get a good secondary burn of the off-gassing volatiles stored in the wood that would otherwise go up the chimney as smoke in an oxygen-starved upper chamber and chimney. Any fool who can light a fire will get a fairly good, clean burn out of the newer designs, which don't "endanger" anyone by giving the operator the ability to work the flu damper, the old way. I don't know if the new designs have a heat-controlled bi-metal coil that opens and closes a flu damper or not, according to how hot it gets.
What you say makes more sense for a burn chamber that brings in air through the front or sides and/or top.
The Grizzly stove and the Cub stove are cheaper and you don’t need a special tool to open & close them.
I'm not sure if those were available when we were looking for stoves. Are those the ones made in Canada?
yes both are
@Shavin McCrotch Apples and oranges...the hobbit is probably 2-3x as large and heavier than the Cub and Grizzly...more metal = more thermal mass to hold and radiate heat...it's in another class.
This is allot better design than the Cub and the Grizzly
We have both and can cheerfully report after years of use, Go Hobbit. The Firebox stove is a beauty but not easy to live with, very demanding.
So that tiny stove wil heat up the whole room? What temperatures does it get to?
Yeah it heats up the whole tiny house no problem. Even at -30'c can keep it as warm as you want.
How long can it burn? Do you have to get up in the night to tend it?
is this stove is the cheapest one in the market, I just a small one for my small bedroom but they all too expensive
This one is not in inexpensive.
how often do u have to clean creosote out of chimney pipe? is pipe single or double walled?
The pipe is double walled. We don't really have any creosote, although we tend not to have a lot of smoldering fires. I brushed the chimney out after the first winter and there was just barely a film, not enough to even measure the thickness.
Excellent video. What size is your tiny house?
Hi I was just wondering if you were able to source the 4 inch stove pipe in Canada, I'm having a hard time to track any down.
I couldn't find 4" insulated stove pipe either. I am pretty sure the new code concerning wood stoves is that the minimum is 5" double walled stainless on the inside and outside. They don't take into account mini stoves like this one, that only put out 20,000 BTU. They assume that everyone is running 40k plus BTU wood stoves or fire places.
A 5" insulated stove pipe would be too big and mess up the draft on the hobbit. It would actually cause more creosote because of the over sizing.
I obviously can't recommend anything not to code but I used 4" L-vent which is insulated pellet stove pipe. The max temp rating on it was high enough for the hobbit stove. It is stainless steel on the inside then insulation and then galvanized on the outside.
@@canadianrenegade39 4" vitreous Flues can be ordered from Salamander stoves in the UK, single or double wall
How big is your cabin? Sqft?
What is the actual name of the stove? I want it, but many come up when searching hobbit stove
It is actually called the "Hobbit Stove" by Salamander Stoves. Made in the UK.
Hola. Saludos desde españa.
Me encanta tu video y estufa de leña. Tambien he aprendido a limpiarla :D.
¿Que modelo de estufa es? Gracias!!
Does this stove do a secondary burn like the Kimberly and Cubic Minis do ?
I'm pretty sure it does.
Hi! Where can I order the stove in Canada?
where can i buy a hobbit stove in canada and what do they go for?
Great vid! Did you order direct from salamander? If so, how much was shopping? Did you consider any other small stoves (dwarf, etc)? Thanks for the great content.
We did order directly from Salamander and the shipping was I think about $300. So definitely not cheap but when we researched stoves we felt this was the best option. I don't know if the Dwarf was available when we were looking that was a few years ago now and I don't remember it. I also have a friend who has a Cubic Mini stove. I'll have to ask how it is working for them. I don't know if they have used it much because they haven't gone through a winter in their house yet.
I was also trying to decide between the Hobbit and the Dwarf and for some reason the Dwarf is drastically more expensive, by a lot! I’m also baffled at the cost of the flue kits, they’re more than the stove itself! Unless I has the dumb.
hey! Thanks for the video. At the end you mentioned that the stove has a tendancy to over heat the space... I'm dealing with the same issue and was wondering if you've managed to come up with any strategies for using your stove without it getting too hot in your tiny house?
Maybe move to a colder climate?
@@adobemastr Maybe I could ask the colder climate to come to me ...
@@rosstituteuk Did you figure out some ways to solve this problem?
@@adobemastr Yes. I bought a Cubic Mini wood stove instead. It's rated for boats / tiny houses, etc.
@@rosstituteuk This situation is very interesting. So did you originally purchase a hobbit stove but found it overheated your tiny home and you then switched to a cubic mini stove? And what is the difference now between the two stoves after you’ve used them both?
I think this would be great for a mobile home. Are they rated for that do you know??
They are certified for residential use so should be fine for motor homes. Would still have to have the same accommodations like a fresh air intake though.
@@canadianrenegade39 yes. I'm talking about a mobile home, not a motor home though. I'm sure it would work. Thanks!
@@micheleburton6108 Yeah I misunderstood. It is one of the few smaller stoves that is rated for residential use.
I stay in Scotland where can I buy one
Great help, thanks just about to buy a hobbit for my shed in the UK great video !
Kevin
You're welcome!
Hi Now got our stove up and running in the Garden building in the UK, Wow it kicks out some heat, candles burning, Music on the LP Album, Fire running, Dark outside, warm inside to use a Danish word, Hygge, meaning a feeling of contentment
How much is it, and how much does it weigh?
Cool stove. Whats the idea behind having the stove sitting so high up on your cabinet/platform? Since heat rises, would it not be better to have the stove closer to the floor?
You are right about heat rising and we may have had more efficient heat if it were lower. It is elevated because it is so tiny it would be awkward to load and light if it were right on the floor. Also we store our wood under it which helps us use less floor space.
Where did you get the steel plate guard on the wall?
My brother had someone who does sheet metal make it for me out of sheet metal. I sanded it wiped it with a solvent to get off any oils and spray painted it with high temperature stove paint.
Try wiping glass with a piece of newspaper. It cleans so well you can even use ash and newspaper to clean your windows,.
We have the Morso 1410, small enough for a tiny home; we use it in a 28 X12 loft studio above a garage. Not to be a troll, but your stove with a grate and air inlet/ash pit below is actually a design for coal, since coal requires a draft from below to the bed, while wood must be burnt from front to back on bricks or ash bed to be efficient, hence the air inlet at the level of the wood in a true woodstove. The Morso is dual fuel in Europe with a functional under draft/door for coal and a draft at the top to let air in to downdraft over the glass to the wood. In the US, they must think we will forget to close the lower draft useful to start a fire and weld the lower air inlet shut so it is for wood only- and they say to crack the door for starting the fire.
When using underdraft only, all the wood tries to burn at once; and typical closing of the draft to "bank" a fire will cause more creosote as the gasses do not have enough heat to burn them off. What I would try is a topdown fire, where burning from the top will burn its own gasses, and you can use more lower draft without it running away.
As for the question on secondary burn, this allows extra air from the back to come in from above either tubes with holes drilled in, or a baffle box with airholes drilled around it. This is in conjunction with a lined "insulated" firebox, to keep the box temp above 500 deg and burn off the gasses so one will see no smoke from the chimney.
Interesting. The hobbit stove has a damper on the top back corner. I will need to play with the air mixture next time I fire up the stove. So what you are saying is that it should burn best with the bottom damper closed completely and the top damper open or partially open?
I'd have to see the back damper- if it is in exhaust flow, it's no different froma chimney damper for excessive draft. Don't like them, creosote could fall on them, block the draft and allow monoxide into the room. Same issue with "baffled" stoves that meander the exhaust over horizontlal "shelves"- plus it's harder to clean the chimney from below or above.
If it is connected to airflow from OUTSIDE the stove, then it would add air for burning. Many EPA approved stoves like our Morso 1410 have rear air entering for the secondary burn of the gasses. This is not dampable.
In regards to the comment that wood burns best on ashes and from the top, I would note you can't do that in your coal designed under grate air inlet stove, as that blocks the airflow from below grate inlet. Is the grate shakeable? Only way to remove ashes while still burning. Coal has much finer ash that must be shaken down. With a proper in front damper, wood should burn from front to back, or from top down if stacked and lit that way.
The only way I can see to add air is to fully open the bottom (good for getting a fire going) and cracking the door with the lock put down so it can't close. That's the approved method for most stoves. Any soot on the glass means creosote in the chimney- you are not hot enough to burn the smoke, the bane of "damping" a fire to last all night. Better a hot fire in a small stove than a damped fire in a big one. If your tiny house gets too warm as in springtime, make smaller hot fires- you can use a homemade u-shaped grate from an oven rack. Down side is the need to feed it more often.
BTW, your wall baffle next to the chimney should ideally be open at the sides for maximum airflow- Usually done with tubular spacers an inch long to let it be screwed to the wall. Since your stovepipe is double wall, it should allow a clearance of 9" to a combustible wall-18" is allowed for a single wall pipe. Your through the roof view from above is interesting- way too flat a pitch for asphalt shingles?
The Hobbit is a multiifuel stove just like your Morso.
@Mark Miller It's also a lot more expensive.
12 x 16 foot cabin, would this stove be strong enough to heat that?
Should be more than enough.
When I had a small stove like this in my ice but I used to cut hockey pucks sized chunks of those compressed firelogs and they would burn for hours... Great back up fuel or firestarters.... Just don't use big chunks
That'll do it. Those wax logs will definitely plate out on your chimney. But for an ice-fishing hut, cleaning the chimney in the offseason would do the trick.
Never tried that
Thanks for sharing. It's hard to find RUclips reviews on this stove. What is the approximate SQFT of your house & what is the longest burn times you've been able to achieve overnight when the little stove is stuffed full? Thank you.
HAFFT1ME We never did try to to stuff it full and crank the damper down to see how long we could push it. We are in about 200 sqft and usually that would result in overheating the house. Unless it was unusually cold. Also I was a bit cautious about having it just smouldering and building up creasote. Usually a 2 hour burn was fine with our insulation to get us through to morning.
What I can tell you is we had better results with birch and were planning on using it all winter but the guy who was going to supply us flaked out and we had to resort to pine halfway through. With the birch I think a 3-4 hour burn would be do-able. It seemed to burn pretty clean even with the damper almost shut.
Awesome thanks for the response!
Will I get it in Bloemfontein in South Afrika
Great video.
I am thinking of getting one of these because it is small.
Do you mind, what are the dimensions of this one you show?
It is approximately 12''x12'' and 18'' tall
Tell me pls what is a good and small coal stove , and where I can buy??
I don't really know what the best small coal stove is to be honest. The hobbit can burn coal with an accessory though. I think it might even come with it. You could probably check the salamander stoves website.
Hey there, I own 100 acres in New-Brunswick, Canada and was looking into this stove for a tiny cabin on my land. From what I've read it seems like the right choice. Few questions though... How much did the stove cost? Does it hold heat during the night? What is the maximum length of wood that can be put inside?
Going off of memory it was $1100 CAD and that included the price of shipping. Of course the price might be a bit different now with exchange rates and and shipping rates changing.
It doesn't hold heat well during the night because it is small and light compared to larger stoves and doesn't hold a lot of coals. Also because the fire box is small it is hard to get a long burn. Unfortunately this will be true for all the miniature stoves. If you can incorporate some sort of thermal mass around the stove to soak up the heat it may perform better. Because our house is on wheels and we have to keep weight down this is not an option for us.
With a good load of hard wood and the damper closed off pretty good you should be able to get 3-4 hours of burn time then another hour or two of heat while it cools down. Apparently it will also burn coal but I haven't tried it.
The maximum length of wood is about 8"
Where did you buy your stove?
So the idea did not pan out? Website is down.... I DO Like the stove a lot.
I replied to the other comment as well but yeah our family outgrew the tiny house for sure.
@@canadianrenegade39 R u still selling the stoves?
@@gw10758 i was never selling the stoves.
Is this stove "Gandalf Approved?"
is this stove comparable to the mini cube "cubit" stove? it is made in Canada....
The hobbit is a little bit nicer. The cubit mini's are technically not approved for home use but I know someone who has one and it works fine.
Thanks for showing your stove.
No Problem, thanks for watching!
Can u burn pellets in the hobbet
mini poker's are available on Amazon
Thank you for your review
I need one of these for winter.
Wood burning stoves are awesome in a tiny 🏡, to help with the humidity problem
were can i find 1 of theses stoves
Yeah finally someone put woodstove at waist height during installation..so your not working on floor everyday...good instal.....
Can I add this to a 6m bell tent