Thank you so very much for doing this video! Because I was wondering what the difference in size is, when they are side by side, and you demonstrated that, and even took the time to tell the burn amount and duration. Thumbs up! I'm subscribing!
Thanks for this review. Just discovered you guys and loved the testimony video. We are fixing up a cargo van and was thinking about using a little stove like this. Again, thank you! Nice to see other people in the RV camp who love the Lord too!
yes, I also found you by accident but the vids are interesting your both seem very friendly down to earth people and the lady makes me laugh with that cheeky smile. God bless you both.
Nice little set-up you have there with that Grizzly Cubic stove! I grew up with my dad always installing any type of wood heat and cooking stove in our campers which used he usually built the campers as well. One time he used a timber frame and cardboard for the walls and ceiling because he didn't have enough wood to complete the camper so used what he could scrounge to complete the job with. Dad was very resourceful. You know I am really proud of my father for always keeping food and a roof over our heads with all 8 kids and my mother:) My dads 87 and he is now completing an old bus 49 bus and he has totally re-built the whole motor! My dad loves the Lord and continues to amaze me with his ability to do what he does for his second family with 14 more kids added to mix of our family:)) I hope I didn't reminisce to much! But your cute little stove brought back many memories of my early childhood. Thank you for updating us I just started watching your videos today! Love your videos!
That is awesome!!! I love that the percolator actually perks on the stove. The other stove made me think coffee cup warmer. I would love to put one of these in my barn. I have the same percolator in cobalt. There is nothing better than the smell of the fire, perked coffee, and bacon frying. I like the bigger viewing window. Thank you for sharing!!!
Frank Burns a medium sized wood stove can heat as much as 1500 square feet so I'm sure in a camper it's plenty. Especially if you put a little fan to blow the heat around
I almost clicked off this video till I saw your comment!!! LOL I was looking for a winter camping stove and thought "these are way to big to transport" Glad I saw your comment and continued to watch!
When I was 18 I helped a friend build a very nice home out of a old school bus. My friend was a welder and hand crafted a wood stove using 1/4" thick steel plates to use in his new home on wheels. My point is this...whenever you use a wood stove or other like minded heater such as a hearth with chimney in a normal home you ALWAYS have a flu to draw the smoke out of your structure. As this smoke and heated air goes up and out the same volume of fresh air has to replace what goes up and out right? So when this new air comes into your abode it is the same temperature as it is outside when its drawn inside thus actually slowly cooling the very air you"re trying to heat up. This is going against what you are trying to achieve. Now back to my friends home on wheels..... When we installed his handmade wood burner he made the legs out of black steel pipe using 3/4" . A same sized hole was cut into the flooring giving access to the outside air thru these pipes when they were mounted vertically on the floor and attached to the underside of his stove that also had holes into the bottom of the stove housing giving the stove all the fresh air from outside (through these attached leg pipes) without the need to draw any preheated air from the inside of his home. He fashioned the dampers at the top of each front leg pipes and could quite easily adjust any and all air flow at the touch of small handles. This little added feature to his home stove/heater made all the difference in the world when it came to heating that old bus. In fact sometimes it actually made it too hot in there until he learned how to accurately set the leg dampers. So to get the optimum heating from any home hearth or box wood burner try to figure out a way to have it draw it's air from the outside not from inside of your home. Outside air is a bit more oxygenated making for a better burning and possibly hotter fire anyways! Remember that whatever air goes up and out the smokestack/chimney it needs to be equal to what needs to be drawn from somewhere else and you'll be surprised at the lower cost and more efficient way your heating device will be by getting your burner's air from outside............ Bye for now, a true survivor Me
Yeah I've been thinking about this too on a boat, but am thinking of using an old (unused) chimney fitting, connected to a 3" heavy duty plastic duct, run inside cavities, to underneath the burner. The duct can just be capped if necessary, for damping, but I havent worked out if all the variables involved would increase or decrease the heat on the boat, overall, with the ducting capped...will just have to experiment. Also I'm 'catching' the heated air above the burner, and funnelling that into more insulated ducting in the cavities, which uses a cheap little 12v computer fan to exhaust the warm air into the v berth at the bow, so the sleeping area is warm and toasty too...am also looking at those steel convection heat fans to sit on top of the burner itself, bit will probably make my own, as they cost a fortune...
You do know new stoves don't use a flu right? Also I believe as of now it's against the law to use one for epa reasons look it up ik new wood stoves don't use a flu and say NOT to use one in directions
Definitely want to add a wood burning stove to our RV; placement of one will be the problem in ours because of the floor plan. Pretty much sold on The Grizzly based on watching your video. Nice to see you have a kitty too. We take both of our cats with us anywhere we go with the RV. Thanks for testing both of these and for sharing this very informative video.
Thanks for the review. We're planning on buying a travel trailer, looking for a 17 to 21 ft. long. I think that cub would be a nice heating option. A gunny sack of pre cut wood would work great for a weekend of camping, along with other wood you can scrounge around for, at the camp site. Thanks for sharing.
I'm planning to get a Grizzly for my shed/cabin (338 sq. ft.). Thanks for the review, Bill and Elizabeth. (And ignore those folks who were offended about you being "political" recently. Some folks just look for reasons to be offended !)
I am very impressed with this stove and have been doing some investigating on it. I found out that they recommend that the chimney pipe be completely straight. No bends. I see you have it with two bends so that makes me wonder if that’s the reason your glass goes black because of low air flow. Hmm 🤔 I’m definitely getting one of these for sure. Thanks for the review.
Bill . I came way back here to see once more this video. I am so glad your letting people know about heating there homes. Thank you for making this video. ..GOD'S JOY.
Enjoyed the review. Will definitely look into this mini stove for my, hopefully soon, purchance of a camper trailer. I love my wood burning stove. Watching the flames is a must and the heat is great! Thanks
I just love that little grizzly it is as cute as the little cub, I am thrilled they work so good - good thing I was a 2nd and 3rd shifter most of my life in the medical field and an insomniac so I will have no problem popping out of bed to refill the little bugger when it needs it. Great video on the installs.
Great video and perfect timing. I was trying to decide on which one to go with for our sailboat. As crazy as it sounds we actually do get some pretty cold nights here in FL. Were also planning on some northern cruising. Think were going to go with the grizzly. Thanks again for the great video.
Thank you so much for your input! Since some comments are just trolls, We will look into website!! Have a great one and again Thank you!! We have a House but the master bedroom and bathroom are so cold during the winter months in the Rockies.
You are such a sweet couple and very genuine. Love your in depth videos! In this age of frantic rushing about, your videos are soothing and educational. Thanks for sharing your insight on the stove! I wondered which one to get myselfl
Here I am at the end of the 22-23 winter knowing these may go on sale soon so I am shopping. A couple of other notes...I loved this living space you all were in. It seemed so sweet and homey. But I'm looking at Ms E and this is a few year later and Elizabeth looks awesome these days. The snowbird thing is looks great on you. The last thing is, I love how Bill always looks to Elizabeth when talking. Its just beautiful. Makes tears...and is very happy.
What a great series of videos on tiny wood burning. You both did a fantastic job of showing us all the great details of these two wonderful little stoves. There is nothing like the heat from wood. You did not mention the evolution of the flue pipe. In the previous vid in the install it seems to be under designed in protecting the pass through. single wall is too dangerous and should have well more than only 1in clearance. However the amount of time you have used the stove shows you do seem to have reliability. As a builder of both pellet and wood stoves myself. it would be good to see the manufacturer incorporate an air wash design to the glass, it would allow a crystal clear view of the fire full time. Also, I have found that a heavy pair of welding gloves allow me to reach into my stove and place wood exactly where I want it without the worry of burning my hand. Thanks again for the great vids.
HI Bill & Elizabeth....chatting to you from across the pond! Love the new wood burner, might take more wood....but you will save in electric, for your coffee pot,I love coffee! Your video's are super...no irritating loud music! Love to you both x
+Tinyhouse Prepper (Live simple. Live free) Oh yes! Please keep doing your videos without music!!! Music is annoying and some videos have the music turned up so loud that I can't hear the speaker. I strongly prefer talking videos without musical background.
I think a heat soak would make a big difference. we placed slabs of stone around our stove and once the stone heats up it stays hot for around 6 hours and very warm to touch for another 3 hours.
This is exactly what I was looking for, after many hours of looking around the net. I came across your video. I just moved into Wa. State and have been hit with some cold weather in our 1st month here and wanted to have an alternative in heating our 398sq. ft. tiny home. Worried that we might loose our electricity at anytime do to the weather, this would be the answer for my wife and I and our two furry friends from freezing to death if we did loose power. Thank you for a great in depth video of the stoves. You helped make up my mind and I will follow up on your other videos and also subscribe.
Your video sold me! I ordered the Grizzly. 5 weeks. Cant wait. My trailer is only 21' but I am in snow country and the point of the Grizzly burning longer thru the night without being stoked is why I decided on the larger one.
I really enjoyed this review/comparison. You provided concise, pertinent information that helped me make a decision. I wish more RUclips videos were like this.
Thanks for your efforts in informing us citizens. I love wood stove heat and realise the best hardwoods to use are locust and hickory which can be hard to find unless your on the east coast or perhaps upper NW in oregon/washington state. That said, have you stoked the Grizzly w/ these woods , And if so, the analysis? Thank you
Good video. I remember when these first came out and I knew they were way to small for anything bigger than a van. Sure they'll heat it but need to be filled every hr. I built my own years back out of a piece of oilfield casing and put it in my 23 foot class C motorhome which I lived in for 4 years. Canadian Rocky mountains. It was a great little stove but if I did it again I'd have added about 4 more inches to it which would have added mass plus the longer log/more wood. I was able to get 6hrs on the cold nights and that was with no skirting and looking back I used dead standing wood and didn't know how much better dry seasoned wood made a difference.
A buddy of mine lives in a 16 foot delivery truck he bought to retire in and I presented him with a small present. The present? A bag of charcoal. What do I want with charcoal he asked? You like freezing in winter? Ever try to put out a charcoal fire? He now buys a couple of bags a week as he can restart the fire with firewood from the leftover charcoal fire overnight. Loves it as he says it's so nice to wake up to a warm room. Food for thought.
I noticed in this video you have changed the setup of your flue pipes, I assume for easier cleaning? Would love to see a video on why and how you changed them over. Thanks for some great videos on this little stove. winter is coming!! stay warm!
Longsnowsm ...... good idea... I am still looking for my camper too and I also have bought items that i will be needing when I start living in my RV or Van.... I don't know what your budget is for getting an RV...But, I have found a few on Craig's list... I am checking on distances 100 miles from where I live......I too think I will get the grizzly
The flue pipe is a basic stainless heating pipe ( like an oil furnace would have ) it's made from a flat stainless sheet cut to size then rolled formed. They press ( hydraulic press ) both edges ( seems ) together in a male / female locking pattern. 1 end is pressed inward in a slightly smaller corrugated ( rippled pattern )so both pipe ends fit tightly together, roughly 4 inches deep. Inside flue pipe diameter is roughly 3 inch in dia.
On another video, he said he changed it because there was so much creosote buildup in the cub that he head to clean it every 2 mos (although he said he often cleaned it every 4 weeks). He said that he didn't want all the creosote falling into that second upper chamber that burns the woodsmoke a second time before it goes up the chimney. By having that configuration when he scraping & cleaning, the creosote falls to the side, out that side piece on the flue. He said there was so much creosote because the CUB is so small that it would only get up to 300 or 308 degrees when he first stoked it (that's the optimal temp, 300-500 degrees, to burn creosote (based on the temp flue guage he had). After stoking, the temp would go right back down to 225 degrees, therefore there is always a lot of creosote even though he only uses hardwoods (like Oak) and would leave the flue or damper wide open ALL the time to maximize heat output. There's a 30 min video he did on this topic. But he took down the one that explained in detail how he did it.
I just love these little stoves, because of you and Elizabeth giving them the thumbs up I am thinking about getting a couple of them. Got to check up how much they cost.
Thanks for the vid ! .... hot fires generally will "scrub" both the stack and door glass. It's the same principle as any efficient combustion, hotter is usually better ... going to get the cub for my "tiny camper" redo.
What about cleaning out the ashes? I heard there is no ash tray and one had to dig out the ashes? Which is easier to clean? How often do you have to clean out the ashes?
Great video thanks for sharing. That looks like a well built stove and would be a great addition for the wintertime garage/man cave junky like myself. It gets down in the teens in the Mojave desert during the wintertime, puts a damper on hobbies when being outside isn't suitable. I'am going to look into the grizzly model. Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Wow, the perspective at first makes it look like the stove is far in the background and about 2' x 3. Then he reaches and moves the handle and you realize that thing is *tiny*
In a green house, with plenty of heat absorbent rocks and tiles in it. Also, underground tube heating would be nice, too. It's warmer underground and air is warmer. Nice place to be in the winter. Can grow certain foods, too.
Did you end up getting a Grizzly? How did you find it in your 100sq ft space? I'm deliberating about getting one of these as I have a ~150sq ft space to heat. Would like to cook on it too, but would be concerned about it being too much heat for the space...
@@rosstituteuk No, I wound up with one my friend gave me, a real woodstove, small, but way bigger than these. In my tiny space, I have to open a window when I cook, even in severe sub-freezing weather, but I can choke it right down and still wake up to a warm room.
@@ozzymandius666 Thanks for the reply Michael. Do you have any issues with the larger stove putting out too much heat ? If so, is opening a window sufficient to deal with it, or do you have any other tips or tricks? Thanks again, appreciate your thoughts!
Wow! I'm never gonna complain about having to stoke my 19K BTU woodstove in my camper every 3~3.5 hours when it's 20~30F ever again. Heck, if I load it to max, and run the damper full close, I'll still have just enough coals left to self relight on its own after 12 hrs.
I love being able to come back to your old videos when I need the information. I just built a small recreational gypsy wagon and I'm looking at this mini woodstove but trying to decide between the grizzly and the cub. I think the smaller.
How do you add a Hotshot? Why would you need the HotShot electric water heater if the fireplace heats the water already? Need help visualizing this. Thanks.
I found a trick. Go to a furniture store that uses hard wood and they will give you a pallet load of scrap. For a stove that small it would be perfect.
Wilderness living is supremely better with over 100 acres of hardwoods FREE, plus more solitude, serenity & peace of mind, excluding taxes. YOGI & BOOBOO ARE THEE ONLY CRIMINALS!!
Dear brother and sister, this is the most wholesome, enjoyable video I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you for your beautiful review and peek into your glorious lives.
Great video. Thanks so much. Am considering this stove for my "eventual" rv build. If I may, hypothetically, if you were running the stove one night but had to move the rv, for whatever reason, could you shut it down and get right on the road or would that be an issue? Also, how high does the chimney need to be over the roof? Would it interfere with solar? Shadow, soot, heat damage?
I don't really know because our RV is not mobile. It's up on blocks. But we subscribe to a channel called Bus Life NZ, they have a little stove similar to ours in their camper bus. They did a video recently showing the bus driving down the road and there was smoke coming out of the stack while they were driving. I'm not endorsing that, I'm just telling you what I saw. Maybe you could call or email Cubic and ask them?
An old trick for cleaning the glass on your wood stove is to take some newspaper, wet it and dip it in the ashes. Scrub the glass with it and it will take all that soot right off.
Victorian cook books come with a cleaning section that essentially tells you the recipe for sops, rube oil or tallow on ashes chared pots and pans (incase newspapers and water don't work the fist time around try one go of that and remove soap /scum with newspaper and water).
Getting used to the new name, and enjoying the videos. these are great any time. Wow!Cold and a blizzard in April! So glad we dont have to deal with that here. I love the coffee maker on top.
Thanks so very much for your Review, we bought both lol, we appreciate the effort's you put into your posts and content, the love you 2 show has warmed our hearts" lol" hopefully as much as Grizz Cubic mini,....So happy for you and your new home but this little place you had,it sure made my Wife & I want to come and try a front room camp out&rost some marshmallows lol, a great channel and you 2 make it so comfortable,not hard to tell you have your hearts in a cool place with our Creator,Praise Jah, congratulations on the new home Luv&Peace Sean&family from Saskatchewan Canada 🙂✌⚘
It comes with a new pipe. The T: A - soot can fall into the trap rather than back down into the stove and B - is likely so he can clean out the flue without walking on the old trailer roof. It's an old trailer with 2x2 wood framing. Therefore a tall guy like him wouldn't want to risk walking on the roof. These older trailers are not meant to be walked on. Some have a ladder. But that's for accessing the old style luggage bars (if equipped or optioned on the roof) and/or the rare occasion you need to get on the roof for repairs. Annual cleaning and sealing on older travel trailers should be done from a ladder. There are instances where one must get on the roof. The best way is to use planks of wood to distribute your weight over several 2x2 roof supports. Hope this helped answer your questions. Cheers from Seattle.
I love you guys and pray all goes well with you. I hope to some day soon do something similar to what you have done. The Lord bless you and keep you in His loving arms.
Wanted to let you know that this video helped me make a decision on which stove to get for my boat. I think i would have made the wrong decision without you hard work. Love the videos! God bless brother.
I subscribed yesterday. I'm still new here. Questions: Where did you purchase your wood burning heaters?? Where did you get your percolator? When you leave your home do you keep the wood burning? Could you put a little cat door for you fur baby to go in and out? You're very handy man. Your wife is very sweet😊
We got the woodstove here. cubicminiwoodstoves.com I think I purchased the percolator at a Cabella's store. Yes we can leave the woodstove burning when we leave, but it only burns for a couple of hours. Here is our woodstove video playlist. ruclips.net/p/PLD231j5QApVI-bG2XWKWt9-k9xnzV_opZ
I can see using one of these in my small garage, but at night in an RV? I wouldn't want to have to wake up 5 or 6 times to feed the thing wood. You'd get back in bed and think, "I'm half-asleep, did I shut the door tight or set the air right so I don't burn the place down?". By the time you got back to sleep, it would be time to get up and feed it again. You'd die of sleep depravation. Maybe if they were self-feeding pellet stoves it might be worth it.
This tiny stove is the only thing that will fit in our RV. Anything larger needs several feet of clearance on all side, and we just don't have the room. We were THRILLED when we discovered that this little thing would work for us. We also have other sources of heat. Since we never move our RV, we were able to upgrade the electric service from 30 amp to 100amp. That allowed us to add electric baseboard heat. So now we use the wood stove about 18 hours a day. When it goes out at night the electric backup heat comes on. The stove saves us hundreds of dollars every year. I think it paid for itself the first winter. Also, we are preppers. We are on the grid, but we are prepared to survive completely off the grid if necessary when the power goes out. And that includes buying pellets. We live in the woods, so wood is free and readily available (if I chop it). We don't want to be relying on buying pellets - they might not always be available. If the power goes out, we can still heat the place. We just pile on lots of blankets and night and restart the fire in the morning.
@@LiveSimpleLiveFree Save your money then and move to warmer climates where you won't need wood at all. If the SHTF your fuel needing RV will be useless in a matter of days.
@@johnchase4408 We have lived in the north all our lives. We are not going to move south, all alone, without any friends or family. We will not leave our kids and grands behind. Our fuel needing RV? No. The RV travel trailer that we live in is set permanently on a piece of land that we own. It does not move. It has not moved since it was set here in 1977!
@@johnchase4408 You would need air conditioning all year round in FL (we used to live there) You can only take off so many clothes. We are in East TN and love our woodstove when it gets wicked cold!
@@oneprincessblue7 I spent more time in FL than any other state growing up. My family has a home in Boca Raton since 1971. I understand what you're saying but I'd never suggest someone living his lifestyle (as I do) to go to the hurricane and humidity state.
I just ordered my Grizzly. I'm so excited. One thing I didnt remember you mentioning is the duties I'd have to pay for bringing it in from Canada. Holy cow! I'm in shock! $174 and some change. Wowza! There goes my gas money for the next two weeks. :-/ Still, Im so happy to have been able to save up to get one. Another video (not your's) mentioned it took them a month to get it after ordering. The web site said it would take 4 days shipped through DHL, so I'm hoping things have changed. Anyway, wanted to thank you for helping me to choose the Grizzly for my travel trailer. Lo e your channel! God bless.
Thank you so much for your insight and for sharing.. Excellent video.. May God continue to bless you both.. I will definitely look into getting one.. Thank you again.
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Thank you so very much for doing this video! Because I was wondering what the difference in size is, when they are side by side, and you demonstrated that, and even took the time to tell the burn amount and duration. Thumbs up! I'm subscribing!
Wood stove heat is just so much more effective. That stove is just beautiful!! Your efforts are truly appreciated.Thank you for the reports.
Thanks for this review. Just discovered you guys and loved the testimony video. We are fixing up a cargo van and was thinking about using a little stove like this. Again, thank you! Nice to see other people in the RV camp who love the Lord too!
yes, I also found you by accident but the vids are interesting your both seem very friendly down to earth people and the lady makes me laugh with that cheeky smile. God bless you both.
Nice little set-up you have there with that Grizzly Cubic stove! I grew up with my dad always installing any type of wood heat and cooking stove in our campers which used he usually built the campers as well. One time he used a timber frame and cardboard for the walls and ceiling because he didn't have enough wood to complete the camper so used what he could scrounge to complete the job with. Dad was very resourceful. You know I am really proud of my father for always keeping food and a roof over our heads with all 8 kids and my mother:) My dads 87 and he is now completing an old bus 49 bus and he has totally re-built the whole motor! My dad loves the Lord and continues to amaze me with his ability to do what he does for his second family with 14 more kids added to mix of our family:)) I hope I didn't reminisce to much! But your cute little stove brought back many memories of my early childhood. Thank you for updating us I just started watching your videos today! Love your videos!
Wow! I do a lot of projects, but I don't think I could ever keep up with your father. He sounds like an amazing man!
Sounds like a great dad. And you sound like a great daughter. God bless
That is awesome!!! I love that the percolator actually perks on the stove. The other stove made me think coffee cup warmer. I would love to put one of these in my barn. I have the same percolator in cobalt. There is nothing better than the smell of the fire, perked coffee, and bacon frying. I like the bigger viewing window. Thank you for sharing!!!
Grandma Patty smells good!!
Mama THP is so sweet and her voice is so soothing. Blessings to you good folks, from Va!
Wow, I was sure the Cub was sitting against a wall a few feet further back. I almost cracked up when you just reached over and touched it.
Frank Burns I laughed too! I though those aren't that small then he touched them and they aren't much bigger than his hands
Frank Burns a medium sized wood stove can heat as much as 1500 square feet so I'm sure in a camper it's plenty. Especially if you put a little fan to blow the heat around
I almost clicked off this video till I saw your comment!!! LOL I was looking for a winter camping stove and thought "these are way to big to transport" Glad I saw your comment and continued to watch!
When I was 18 I helped a friend build a very nice home out of a old school bus. My friend was a welder and hand crafted a wood stove using 1/4" thick steel plates to use in his new home on wheels.
My point is this...whenever you use a wood stove or other like minded heater such as a hearth with chimney in a normal home you ALWAYS have a flu to draw the smoke out of your structure. As this smoke and heated air goes up and out the same volume of fresh air has to replace what goes up and out right? So when this new air comes into your abode it is the same temperature as it is outside when its drawn inside thus actually slowly cooling the very air you"re trying to heat up. This is going against what you are trying to achieve.
Now back to my friends home on wheels.....
When we installed his handmade wood burner he made the legs out of black steel pipe using 3/4" . A same sized hole was cut into the flooring giving access to the outside air thru these pipes when they were mounted vertically on the floor and attached to the underside of his stove that also had holes into the bottom of the stove housing giving the stove all the fresh air from outside (through these attached leg pipes) without the need to draw any preheated air from the inside of his home. He fashioned the dampers at the top of each front leg pipes and could quite easily adjust any and all air flow at the touch of small handles. This little added feature to his home stove/heater made all the difference in the world when it came to heating that old bus. In fact sometimes it actually made it too hot in there until he learned how to accurately set the leg dampers.
So to get the optimum heating from any home hearth or box wood burner try to figure out a way to have it draw it's air from the outside not from inside of your home. Outside air is a bit more oxygenated making for a better burning and possibly hotter fire anyways!
Remember that whatever air goes up and out the smokestack/chimney it needs to be equal to what needs to be drawn from somewhere else and you'll be surprised at the lower cost and more efficient way your heating device will be by getting your burner's air from outside............
Bye for now, a true survivor Me
Excellent point, I'm glad I read your comment.
Thank you.
The intake is much smaller den exhausted
Yeah I've been thinking about this too on a boat, but am thinking of using an old (unused) chimney fitting, connected to a 3" heavy duty plastic duct, run inside cavities, to underneath the burner. The duct can just be capped if necessary, for damping, but I havent worked out if all the variables involved would increase or decrease the heat on the boat, overall, with the ducting capped...will just have to experiment. Also I'm 'catching' the heated air above the burner, and funnelling that into more insulated ducting in the cavities, which uses a cheap little 12v computer fan to exhaust the warm air into the v berth at the bow, so the sleeping area is warm and toasty too...am also looking at those steel convection heat fans to sit on top of the burner itself, bit will probably make my own, as they cost a fortune...
Your understanding of HVAC concepts is spot on. So many home designers and HVAC specialists totally forget about the equality principle.
You do know new stoves don't use a flu right? Also I believe as of now it's against the law to use one for epa reasons look it up ik new wood stoves don't use a flu and say NOT to use one in directions
Definitely want to add a wood burning stove to our RV; placement of one will be the problem in ours because of the floor plan. Pretty much sold on The Grizzly based on watching your video. Nice to see you have a kitty too. We take both of our cats with us anywhere we go with the RV. Thanks for testing both of these and for sharing this very informative video.
Thanks for the review. We're planning on buying a travel trailer, looking for a 17 to 21 ft. long. I think that cub would be a nice heating option. A gunny sack of pre cut wood would work great for a weekend of camping, along with other wood you can scrounge around for, at the camp site. Thanks for sharing.
Great demonstration and comparison. folks deciding which to buy for their particular application will find this very helpful.
I'm planning to get a Grizzly for my shed/cabin (338 sq. ft.). Thanks for the review, Bill and Elizabeth. (And ignore those folks who were offended about you being "political" recently. Some folks just look for reasons to be offended !)
I have 465 sf tiny house how do u like the grizzly?
I am very impressed with this stove and have been doing some investigating on it. I found out that they recommend that the chimney pipe be completely straight. No bends. I see you have it with two bends so that makes me wonder if that’s the reason your glass goes black because of low air flow. Hmm 🤔 I’m definitely getting one of these for sure. Thanks for the review.
Bill . I came way back here to see once more this video. I am so glad your letting people know about heating there homes. Thank you for making this video. ..GOD'S JOY.
Enjoyed the review. Will definitely look into this mini stove for my, hopefully soon, purchance of a camper trailer. I love my wood burning stove. Watching the flames is a must and the heat is great! Thanks
I just love that little grizzly it is as cute as the little cub, I am thrilled they work so good - good thing I was a 2nd and 3rd shifter most of my life in the medical field and an insomniac so I will have no problem popping out of bed to refill the little bugger when it needs it. Great video on the installs.
Thanks for the video, I've been wanting to see one of these little stoves in actual use.
Thanks for the review, we are very happy with our cub. Great Canadian stoves.
Great video and perfect timing. I was trying to decide on which one to go with for our sailboat. As crazy as it sounds we actually do get some pretty cold nights here in FL. Were also planning on some northern cruising. Think were going to go with the grizzly. Thanks again for the great video.
Thank you so much for your input! Since some comments are just trolls, We will look into website!! Have a great one and again Thank you!! We have a House but the master bedroom and bathroom are so cold during the winter months in the Rockies.
I had a stove that size in my Econoline Van. A fill was good for about 2 hrs and at 10F I had to keep a window open a bit or it was too hot!
You are such a sweet couple and very genuine. Love your in depth videos! In this age of frantic rushing about, your videos are soothing and educational. Thanks for sharing your insight on the stove! I wondered which one to get myselfl
Here I am at the end of the 22-23 winter knowing these may go on sale soon so I am shopping.
A couple of other notes...I loved this living space you all were in. It seemed so sweet and homey. But I'm looking at Ms E and this is a few year later and Elizabeth looks awesome these days. The snowbird thing is looks great on you. The last thing is, I love how Bill always looks to Elizabeth when talking. Its just beautiful. Makes tears...and is very happy.
Thanks for this informative and thorough video. You have helped me decide to get the Grizzly and more sleep/less stoking!
Sounds like a good choice.
Nice job. Thanks for the video. Now I know what I'm gonna get. The grizzly wood stove. That's lil mini one is perfect for a small garage, or big shed.
Very good review--I liked that it wasn't super polished, but still very informative. Your both helped my evaluation of various stoves, thank you!
What a great series of videos on tiny wood burning. You both did a fantastic job of showing us all the great details of these two wonderful little stoves. There is nothing like the heat from wood. You did not mention the evolution of the flue pipe. In the previous vid in the install it seems to be under designed in protecting the pass through. single wall is too dangerous and should have well more than only 1in clearance. However the amount of time you have used the stove shows you do seem to have reliability.
As a builder of both pellet and wood stoves myself. it would be good to see the manufacturer incorporate an air wash design to the glass, it would allow a crystal clear view of the fire full time. Also, I have found that a heavy pair of welding gloves allow me to reach into my stove and place wood exactly where I want it without the worry of burning my hand.
Thanks again for the great vids.
HI Bill & Elizabeth....chatting to you from across the pond! Love the new wood burner, might take more wood....but you will save in electric, for your coffee pot,I love coffee! Your video's are super...no irritating loud music! Love to you both x
+Christine Preston Thanks. I've tried adding music, so I could be "cool" like everybody else. But it just never felt right.
+Tinyhouse Prepper (Live simple. Live free) Oh yes! Please keep doing your videos without music!!! Music is annoying and some videos have the music turned up so loud that I can't hear the speaker. I strongly prefer talking videos without musical background.
Amen, Nel!! I usually leave immediately when music is used on RUclips channels. Whew, can't stand it.
I'm saving for one. I'll also be getting the oven that goes with the grizzly so I can utilize more of the heat and save on cooking fuel.
I hope you get your stove, I just got the cub to heat an outside winter shed
Thanks 4 helping a senior lady know all about it.
That intro is hilarious! Keep on keepin' on folks! I wish you the best of luck and good fortune!
We live in a mallard m 33 I'm picking up my grizzly today and installing just in the nick of time I will be watching your install video thanks👌👌👌
You guys are great! I love your videos. Very kind people and very informative videos.
+PAULA JENKINS Thanks
Thank you for such a quick response and for the great information. God bless you and your wife.
Your videos are done well and very informative. Keep the good work, look forward to seeing more product testing.
I think a heat soak would make a big difference. we placed slabs of stone around our stove and once the stone heats up it stays hot for around 6 hours and very warm to touch for another 3 hours.
What a good idea! Never thought of this. Thanks!
hmmm... bricks maybe?
Robin Smith I would think more marble or granite countertops
Use soap stone to reflect heat or clay bricks.
Ray Sova soapstone absorbs heat and releases it at a slower and constant rate
This is exactly what I was looking for, after many hours of looking around the net. I came across your video. I just moved into Wa. State and have been hit with some cold weather in our 1st month here and wanted to have an alternative in heating our 398sq. ft. tiny home. Worried that we might loose our electricity at anytime do to the weather, this would be the answer for my wife and I and our two furry friends from freezing to death if we did loose power. Thank you for a great in depth video of the stoves. You helped make up my mind and I will follow up on your other videos and also subscribe.
Good review ! In the house I'm doked now, I gave a big stive with the glass on the door, and sometimes did get black.
Thanks for the review. Been thinking of getting one for a tiny house or gypsy wagon.
Very helpful.. thank you for sharing. I'm just looking into these for my small space 😊
Your video sold me! I ordered the Grizzly. 5 weeks. Cant wait. My trailer is only 21' but I am in snow country and the point of the Grizzly burning longer thru the night without being stoked is why I decided on the larger one.
Kris Olsen can you share what you paid and through what company? I am also ready to buy the grizzly
How long are you getting out of it before re-filling it with wood?
@@diannaa6189 Of course no one will share the price. All fake purchasers.
Go to the web site and the prices are clearly listed. 😊
@@Aubatron he said he got 4-5 hrs out of it. But @ 5 hrs he couldn't restart the stove off the coals. But said @4 hrs he prob could.
I really enjoyed this review/comparison. You provided concise, pertinent information that helped me make a decision. I wish more RUclips videos were like this.
I have seen those tiny stoves up here in Canada. Thanks for the interesting reviews. Super little stoves.
The Grizzly must heat very well. It was snowing outside and you're just wearing a t-shirt. That's great!
Thanks for your efforts in informing us citizens. I love wood stove heat and realise the best hardwoods to use are locust and hickory which can be hard to find unless your on the east coast or perhaps upper NW in oregon/washington state. That said, have you stoked the Grizzly w/ these woods , And if so, the analysis?
Thank you
Good video. I remember when these first came out and I knew they were way to small for anything bigger than a van.
Sure they'll heat it but need to be filled every hr. I built my own years back out of a piece of oilfield casing and put it in my 23 foot class C motorhome which I lived in for 4 years. Canadian Rocky mountains. It was a great little stove but if I did it again I'd have added about 4 more inches to it which would have added mass plus the longer log/more wood. I was able to get 6hrs on the cold nights and that was with no skirting and looking back I used dead standing wood and didn't know how much better dry seasoned wood made a difference.
A buddy of mine lives in a 16 foot delivery truck he bought to retire in and I presented him with a small present. The present? A bag of charcoal. What do I want with charcoal he asked? You like freezing in winter? Ever try to put out a charcoal fire? He now buys a couple of bags a week as he can restart the fire with firewood from the leftover charcoal fire overnight. Loves it as he says it's so nice to wake up to a warm room.
Food for thought.
Hi Bill and Elizabet, greetings from Ireland. I love the videos and I would love that stove for my coffee, keep up the good work.
+Coffee Lover There's only one problem with relying on the wood stove to make my coffee. I can only have coffee in the winter!
Lovely couple, you're lucky to have each other. Blessings
Oh my. I got to get to bed. I could watch all your shows right now.. Hugs
I’m on my second video that you did and I really love all the information you’ve offered. Thank you so much!I think I will get the grizzly.
I noticed in this video you have changed the setup of your flue pipes, I assume for easier cleaning? Would love to see a video on why and how you changed them over. Thanks for some great videos on this little stove. winter is coming!! stay warm!
Longsnowsm ...... good idea... I am still looking for my camper too and I also have bought items that i will be needing when I start living in my RV or Van....
I don't know what your budget is for getting an RV...But, I have found a few on Craig's list... I am checking on distances 100 miles from where I live......I too think I will get the grizzly
The flue pipe is a basic stainless heating pipe ( like an oil furnace would have ) it's made from a flat stainless sheet cut to size then rolled formed. They press ( hydraulic press ) both edges ( seems ) together in a male / female locking pattern. 1 end is pressed inward in a slightly smaller corrugated ( rippled pattern )so both pipe ends fit tightly together, roughly 4 inches deep.
Inside flue pipe diameter is roughly 3 inch in dia.
On another video, he said he changed it because there was so much creosote buildup in the cub that he head to clean it every 2 mos (although he said he often cleaned it every 4 weeks). He said that he didn't want all the creosote falling into that second upper chamber that burns the woodsmoke a second time before it goes up the chimney. By having that configuration when he scraping & cleaning, the creosote falls to the side, out that side piece on the flue. He said there was so much creosote because the CUB is so small that it would only get up to 300 or 308 degrees when he first stoked it (that's the optimal temp, 300-500 degrees, to burn creosote (based on the temp flue guage he had). After stoking, the temp would go right back down to 225 degrees, therefore there is always a lot of creosote even though he only uses hardwoods (like Oak) and would leave the flue or damper wide open ALL the time to maximize heat output. There's a 30 min video he did on this topic. But he took down the one that explained in detail how he did it.
Thanks
Cubic mini should make one more model -- same width and depth, but taller, so that it can take more wood, and burn longer.
The cubic mini polar bear
I just love these little stoves, because of you and Elizabeth giving them the thumbs up I am thinking about getting a couple of them. Got to check up how much they cost.
Thanks for the vid ! .... hot fires generally will "scrub" both the stack and door glass. It's the same principle as any efficient combustion, hotter is usually better ... going to get the cub for my "tiny camper" redo.
What about cleaning out the ashes? I heard there is no ash tray and one had to dig out the ashes?
Which is easier to clean?
How often do you have to clean out the ashes?
its good to see walter white is doing well
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@@speakthewordbiblestudy liev schreiber was my first thought too!
This is exactly the kind of review I was looking for. Thanks for doing this. You've got a new sub!
Great video thanks for sharing. That looks like a well built stove and would be a great addition for the wintertime garage/man cave junky like myself. It gets down in the teens in the Mojave desert during the wintertime, puts a damper on hobbies when being outside isn't suitable. I'am going to look into the grizzly model.
Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Wow, the perspective at first makes it look like the stove is far in the background and about 2' x 3. Then he reaches and moves the handle and you realize that thing is *tiny*
put that cub in the sun room for longer season use
My thoughts to .
In a green house, with plenty of heat absorbent rocks and tiles in it. Also, underground tube heating would be nice, too. It's warmer underground and air is warmer. Nice place to be in the winter. Can grow certain foods, too.
Y'all are cute! Thx for the demo and comparison.
Thanks for the video. I just discovered these tiny stoves. They are so cool.
Great job, TP.
I'll spring for a Grizzly, even though I've only got about 100 sq. ft to heat, as I'll be cooking on it too.
Did you end up getting a Grizzly? How did you find it in your 100sq ft space? I'm deliberating about getting one of these as I have a ~150sq ft space to heat. Would like to cook on it too, but would be concerned about it being too much heat for the space...
@@rosstituteuk No, I wound up with one my friend gave me, a real woodstove, small, but way bigger than these. In my tiny space, I have to open a window when I cook, even in severe sub-freezing weather, but I can choke it right down and still wake up to a warm room.
@@ozzymandius666 Thanks for the reply Michael. Do you have any issues with the larger stove putting out too much heat ? If so, is opening a window sufficient to deal with it, or do you have any other tips or tricks? Thanks again, appreciate your thoughts!
Wow! I'm never gonna complain about having to stoke my 19K BTU woodstove in my camper every 3~3.5 hours when it's 20~30F ever again. Heck, if I load it to max, and run the damper full close, I'll still have just enough coals left to self relight on its own after 12 hrs.
Those are the stoves to have, ones you can stoke for overnight and it can be easily relit on its own the following morning, if not still burning.
What model of stove do you have?
@@JC-lp3sb Ha! Sorry, I never saw your question until Robby just recently posted.
It is a MHSC Windsor, model WR247001
Great video, thank you for putting the time and effort into it to help others.
I love being able to come back to your old videos when I need the information. I just built a small recreational gypsy wagon and I'm looking at this mini woodstove but trying to decide between the grizzly and the cub. I think the smaller.
Enjoy!
With that grizzly stove you can add the hotshot water heater to it to heat water before it goes into the water heater
How do you add a Hotshot? Why would you need the HotShot electric water heater if the fireplace heats the water already? Need help visualizing this. Thanks.
Use oak or other hardwood for better and longer heating.
The only thing we burn is hardwoods.
I found a trick. Go to a furniture store that uses hard wood and they will give you a pallet load of scrap. For a stove that small it would be perfect.
Wilderness living is supremely better with over 100 acres of hardwoods FREE, plus more solitude, serenity & peace of mind, excluding taxes. YOGI & BOOBOO ARE THEE ONLY CRIMINALS!!
@@LiveSimpleLiveFree can you burn coal in it so it will make your fuel last a little longer
Great review, look like great little stoves. Would love to get a "cub" for my camper. Thank you for sharing, new sub will watch more.
Cheers,
Gorbag
Dear brother and sister, this is the most wholesome, enjoyable video I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you for your beautiful review and peek into your glorious lives.
Great video. Thanks so much.
Am considering this stove for my "eventual" rv build.
If I may, hypothetically, if you were running the stove one night but had to move the rv, for whatever reason, could you shut it down and get right on the road or would that be an issue?
Also, how high does the chimney need to be over the roof? Would it interfere with solar? Shadow, soot, heat damage?
I don't really know because our RV is not mobile. It's up on blocks. But we subscribe to a channel called Bus Life NZ, they have a little stove similar to ours in their camper bus. They did a video recently showing the bus driving down the road and there was smoke coming out of the stack while they were driving. I'm not endorsing that, I'm just telling you what I saw. Maybe you could call or email Cubic and ask them?
An old trick for cleaning the glass on your wood stove is to take some newspaper, wet it and dip it in the ashes. Scrub the glass with it and it will take all that soot right off.
Jeff Odegard You can also rub ash on it as well. Not the tree the stuff you get after a fire! 😅
Oxyclean works great. My wife found this out by accident.
Victorian cook books come with a cleaning section that essentially tells you the recipe for sops, rube oil or tallow on ashes chared pots and pans (incase newspapers and water don't work the fist time around try one go of that and remove soap /scum with newspaper and water).
Getting used to the new name, and enjoying the videos. these are great any time. Wow!Cold and a blizzard in April! So glad we dont have to deal with that here. I love the coffee maker on top.
Thanks so very much for your Review, we bought both lol, we appreciate the effort's you put into your posts and content, the love you 2 show has warmed our hearts" lol" hopefully as much as Grizz Cubic mini,....So happy for you and your new home but this little place you had,it sure made my Wife & I want to come and try a front room camp out&rost some marshmallows lol, a great channel and you 2 make it so comfortable,not hard to tell you have your hearts in a cool place with our Creator,Praise Jah, congratulations on the new home Luv&Peace Sean&family from Saskatchewan Canada 🙂✌⚘
Question, why did you change the vent pipe, and what is the T pipe for?
It comes with a new pipe. The T: A - soot can fall into the trap rather than back down into the stove and B - is likely so he can clean out the flue without walking on the old trailer roof. It's an old trailer with 2x2 wood framing. Therefore a tall guy like him wouldn't want to risk walking on the roof. These older trailers are not meant to be walked on. Some have a ladder. But that's for accessing the old style luggage bars (if equipped or optioned on the roof) and/or the rare occasion you need to get on the roof for repairs. Annual cleaning and sealing on older travel trailers should be done from a ladder. There are instances where one must get on the roof. The best way is to use planks of wood to distribute your weight over several 2x2 roof supports. Hope this helped answer your questions.
Cheers from Seattle.
I love you guys and pray all goes well with you. I hope to some day soon do something similar to what you have done. The Lord bless you and keep you in His loving arms.
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wonderfully done I love watching your video very informative not boring at all thank you so much like a breath of fresh air
Wanted to let you know that this video helped me make a decision on which stove to get for my boat. I think i would have made the wrong decision without you hard work. Love the videos! God bless brother.
Glad we could help.
Also is there a cold air duct to get it's air from the outside.
+Lost Caper No, there is no cold air intake duct from outside
what state are you in.
Great! I was wondering about them! Thanks for the video!
Saying hello. Thanks for the review. Very helpful. Stay healthy and look fwd to seeing your other posts.
I subscribed yesterday. I'm still new here. Questions: Where did you purchase your wood burning heaters?? Where did you get your percolator? When you leave your home do you keep the wood burning? Could you put a little cat door for you fur baby to go in and out? You're very handy man. Your wife is very sweet😊
We got the woodstove here. cubicminiwoodstoves.com I think I purchased the percolator at a Cabella's store. Yes we can leave the woodstove burning when we leave, but it only burns for a couple of hours. Here is our woodstove video playlist. ruclips.net/p/PLD231j5QApVI-bG2XWKWt9-k9xnzV_opZ
Tinyhouse Prepper Thank you!
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Tony Rigatoni
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How do you ever get any sleep if you have to stoke that wood stove every hour?
I can see using one of these in my small garage, but at night in an RV? I wouldn't want to have to wake up 5 or 6 times to feed the thing wood. You'd get back in bed and think, "I'm half-asleep, did I shut the door tight or set the air right so I don't burn the place down?". By the time you got back to sleep, it would be time to get up and feed it again. You'd die of sleep depravation. Maybe if they were self-feeding pellet stoves it might be worth it.
This tiny stove is the only thing that will fit in our RV. Anything larger needs several feet of clearance on all side, and we just don't have the room. We were THRILLED when we discovered that this little thing would work for us. We also have other sources of heat. Since we never move our RV, we were able to upgrade the electric service from 30 amp to 100amp. That allowed us to add electric baseboard heat. So now we use the wood stove about 18 hours a day. When it goes out at night the electric backup heat comes on. The stove saves us hundreds of dollars every year. I think it paid for itself the first winter. Also, we are preppers. We are on the grid, but we are prepared to survive completely off the grid if necessary when the power goes out. And that includes buying pellets. We live in the woods, so wood is free and readily available (if I chop it). We don't want to be relying on buying pellets - they might not always be available. If the power goes out, we can still heat the place. We just pile on lots of blankets and night and restart the fire in the morning.
@@LiveSimpleLiveFree Save your money then and move to warmer climates where you won't need wood at all. If the SHTF your fuel needing RV will be useless in a matter of days.
@@johnchase4408 We have lived in the north all our lives. We are not going to move south, all alone, without any friends or family. We will not leave our kids and grands behind. Our fuel needing RV? No. The RV travel trailer that we live in is set permanently on a piece of land that we own. It does not move. It has not moved since it was set here in 1977!
@@johnchase4408 You would need air conditioning all year round in FL (we used to live there) You can only take off so many clothes. We are in East TN and love our woodstove when it gets wicked cold!
@@oneprincessblue7 I spent more time in FL than any other state growing up. My family has a home in Boca Raton since 1971.
I understand what you're saying but I'd never suggest someone living his lifestyle (as I do) to go to the hurricane and humidity state.
Thank you so much guys 💕 that helped me decide which one I want to get.
I just ordered my Grizzly. I'm so excited. One thing I didnt remember you mentioning is the duties I'd have to pay for bringing it in from Canada. Holy cow! I'm in shock! $174 and some change. Wowza! There goes my gas money for the next two weeks. :-/ Still, Im so happy to have been able to save up to get one. Another video (not your's) mentioned it took them a month to get it after ordering. The web site said it would take 4 days shipped through DHL, so I'm hoping things have changed. Anyway, wanted to thank you for helping me to choose the Grizzly for my travel trailer. Lo e your channel! God bless.
Great Video .. Thanks, Ambassador Mount
What do you do to make sure your oxygen supply in the home was adequate?
silentmajor Yes, I hope that Bill answers your question. Perhaps they only open a window. Could it be that easy???
You will be hard pressed to find a house that is air tight but if it really bothers you then yes just crack a window.
loved watching this and how folks adapt to a need..
Thank you so much for your insight and for sharing.. Excellent video.. May God continue to bless you both.. I will definitely look into getting one.. Thank you again.
great video. so are u putting the mini in the sunroom?
Probably
That is Exactly what I was thinking.....LOL I was about to ask....
unfortunately you did not talk about the weight and price
All that is on their website. cubicminiwoodstoves.com
they look like a real good design and well built. im glad they are working out for ya
Hey thanks for these videos. I just bought a grizzly! Can't wait to try it out
Is this stove UL listed? Our insurance company requires UL approval.
You might try some Coal.
great reviews and such humility and common sense with no selling agenda well done.
❤ Thank You for sharing oh love your wife's voice ❤ pretty voice beauty as well but love her voice. Definitely 1 of the best videos on RUclips!!