The Hobbit SE Multi-Fuel Stove Review (Salamander Stoves) | Paragon’s Favourite Stuff Ep. 19
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2023
- It’s been a year since we installed our new multi-fuel stove, The Hobbit, on our sailboat. We’ve used it exclusively to heat our boat over this past (very cold!) winter, and it’s time to tell you what we think!
The Hobbit SE by Salamander Stoves
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You've really mastered making Paragon so cozy and comfortable to live on!
A wonderful stove, it's fine features effectively conveyed to us. Just might get one of these stoves during the next refit. Thank you Paragon
Great video, thanks; I’ve learnt so much. You’ve really convinced me that getting a Hobbit stove is the right way to go.
GO DRAKE!!! Comment for support. Big LIKE. Any video from the OG of sailing videos is VERY GOOD!!! Keep 'em coming. :))))
Great review. We have a Hobbit and I’ve only just started experimenting with burning smokeless coal on it. We love the Hobbit too
G'day from a sunny Sydney, Australia. Have been very concerned about you guys as we hadn't heard from you and Mo in a while. Good to see your friendly face again mate. Nive review too!!!!
Good to see you posting again! We’ve missed your videos!
Good to see you again guys.
Great job Drake, informative as usual.
Great info, thanks
Awesome stove and set up !! 👍⛵️👍
I have been waiting moths for new videos your one of my favorite channels, dont stay gone so long next time!!!!!!
As always, excellent video! Was so happy to see the notification of a new episode! 🎉 Please keep them coming!
Thank you! Will do!
Yes! Excellent video and superb review of your heater. Hoping you someday make it out to our beautiful Pacific northwest coasts and enjoy our nearly limitless wood.😅 Have a wonderful week, you two.
YEAH!!! MOVIE NIGHT!!!! Thanks Drake!!! Very much looking forward to that one!
Thank you from Germany for this worthfull nice Video ❤
Thanks for sharing 🙏 I think that is much better than that cubic mini other people use.
I especially like having the option to burn coal, and being able to take the ashes out while the fire's going.
Nice stove, and great video.
For that size stove, nut size anthracite would burn better than those large chunks.
Also, don't forget to floss your grates!
If you ever want a serious upgrade look at the Go-Eco Adventurer- it raised boat stoves to a new level
Very interesting looking stove! I like the detachable oven that can go on top. But it looks a little bigger than our hobbit stove. I don’t think we could fit it in the space we have available.
thanks, needed that explanation 😁
Happy to help!
@@drakeParagon thanks :))
Well explained video, this stoves on the top of my list. Must say I miss your videos. For years you were my favourite sailing channel. I get editing for you tube is tedious and you'd rather spend your time actually enjoying yourself lol. But if you get back into the sailing vlog, I'll be here to watch them. One question, how much coal did you go through during a winter?
Where have u been? Missing contents from you.....
Hi sir
the challenge of wind back downdraft is always fun in scotland :) noticed on a previous video a few years ago you switched t oa cowl that had a wind vane. do you still use that or have you found a better rain/wind cowl for windy days?
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Any chance you could so a walk around above deck. I'm interested to see how you've sealed the double wall flu pipe where it meets the deck. Thanks again.
Thank you. I show our chimney and deck fitting I this video. m.ruclips.net/video/yJy5uk5loTo/видео.html
I’m definitely a fan of A multi fuel stove
Have you had any problems with insurance after installing a “fire” on the boat?
It looks almost identical to the Danish classic stove Morsø 1410 that I have in my house. Could it be a copy? Or maybe the Danish copied someone else? Anyway, I love mine, it's a great stove for a smallish house.
Good video, wish we had room for the stove.
Thanks, There used to be a big hanging locker in that section of the boat.I had to demolish it down to the bare hull and then build out the space just for the stove. I took a whole summer just to prepare the space, and we lost that big locker.
hello, great video and stove review. Will such a stove easily heat a larger boat, mine is 14.8 m / 4.15 / ferrocement, insulated hull ??
You had mentioned moisture problems in your previous stove video. Is coal a drier fuel than wood? Does this stove dry out the moisture?
Hi @DrakeParagon Very interesting bolt down arrangement. I was immediately concerned that heat would transfer down the 16mm bolt, through the hearth to the ply you mention. Have you checked the ply, behind the washers and under the hearth for signs of scorching? Stainless bolts would transfer less heat than other steels. Perhaps you've used stainless given the marine environment. Thanks for the video!
Hi @UsualYaddaYadda, Thanks! I did use stainless steel bolts, but when I did I wasn't thinking that they would transfer less heat. The heat's no issue at all. The bolts are only going through the bottom of the ash pan, which doesn't get too hot. In other versions of this stove, you have a special storage section for wood that's directly underneath the ash pan as well.
You could get a 10mm steel plate cut to weld to the top to increase the size of your hob area or modify it with weld on hinged foldable flaps that store folded flat on the top and flip out when you need them??🤷♂️
Enjoyed the video. How often do you clean the flue?
When we were just burning wood, I would clean the flue once a winter. But we discovered that when burning anthracite coal the flue gets a lot dirtier faster. So I'd guess at least twice a winter. I read that smokeless coal produces less soot than anthracite coal. Maybe we'll use more of that next winter.
Can you get one shipped to Seattle for my Westsail 42? (love the Palin book in the back ground!) Cheers
Our friend Éanna who sailed with us to Greenland gave that book to us recently. I bet if you wrote to Salamander Stoves they could tell you how to purchase one of their stoves for delivery in the USA. :) alex@salamanderstoves.com, gillian@salamanderstoves.com
Drake, is the firebox still the three pieces? Any issues with it slipping?
@DrakeParagon Great review!
Any complaints from neighbouring boats regarding smoke emanating from your chimney?
Thanks. We've never had any complains from neighboring boats about the smoke.
Hi Thanks for the solid review. What impact does the exhaust have on your sails,covers and your neighbors in a marina?
Thanks, We never had any problems with soot getting up on our furled sails. When we burned wood or peat, we rarely if ever noticed any soot on deck. However, we did discover that anthracite coal did produce way more soot, and got the flue really dirty much faster than we were expecting. It also got a lot of soot on deck, which I'm going to pressure wash off. I read that "smokeless" coal produces much less ash than anthracite coal, so we may try that neat time. We've never had any complaints from neighbors about smoke or ash. And while we did get some coal soot on deck over this past winter (with a fires going all day for many months), no ash got on the boat right next to us. Burning wood and coal doesn't smell, but peat does have a distinctive smell. Here in Scotland, neighbors said that they loved the smell of peat burning in our stove. However, when we burned peat in Norway one person (who was burning wood in his stove) said he didn't like the smell of peat.
@@drakeParagon Thank you so much for your detailed reply. While we love the idea of the Hobbit and its versatility and clean burning attributes. After measuring on our new to us Westsail 32 sadly is too big. Our chimney would also be about 18" from our mast. I appreciate your input and look forward to your next post!
How about the chimney and what it exhausts ? Any burns from sparks on deck , any black soot on the boat and juat curious what life is like for your neighbours with the smoke and fire worries ? Thank you !
Thanks! We found that of all the fuels, anthracite coal produces the most soot, both accumulating in the chimney, and even spreading onto the deck. But we haven't had any issues with soot on deck when using smokeless coal, wood, compressed logs, or peat. We've also never had complains from neighboring boats about the smoke.
Drake, I hope I am not being redundant with this question. Sorry if I am.
What about soot or ash on deck?
In previous years we had barely any soot on deck when we were burning just wood. But we found that burning anthracite coal does produce a lot more soot, both in the flue and also on deck. I read that smokeless coal produces a lot less soot than anthracite coal, so we may try using that in the future. Before we push off in the spring (very soon!) I'm planning to make a PFS video about our electric pressure washer, showing how I use it to clean the decks. In which case I show the soot that's accumulated on deck from a whole winter of burning anthracite coal.
Drake we need a new adventure
Hi Mike, I hear you. We have thousands of hours of footage (of sailing Scotland, Ireland, Norway, Svalbard, and Denmark) just sitting on a hard drive and waiting for when I can devote the time to editing it all into episodes. And in real time we continuing our voyaging, and filming when can. Today is April 9th, 2023, and we are just about to push off from Scotland for an ambitious season of voyaging - Over the next 6 months we're going to sail from Scotland to Faroe, then back to Scotland, and on to Ireland, Portugal, Morocco for next winter. We will be editing our past voyage stories as well as Paragon's Favorite Stuff episodes when we can, and publishing real time videos on our Patreon page.
Curious how you vent above and out the top. How’d you install it to keep water out.
I installed a water deck iron that I purchased from navigator stove works. It gets through bolted to the deck and the chimney gets placed over it. But when we go to sea I take the chimney off and put a big rubber bung into the hole to seal it. I never had any issues with water getting in (either from rain or salt water waves hitting the deck. I followed the installation instructions for all of this from this manual, which might give you a better idea of how it all works. www.marinestove.com/2015codmanual.pdf
@@drakeParagon wow thank you sir!
I don't find any dealers in the U.S. ? Where did you get it ?
We bought ours in Scotland. But I found a website for a company in the USA called Tiny Stoves, and they say they do sell the Salamander Hobbit stove for shipping to USA and Canada. tinystoves.shop
how many hrs does the coal go for?
I never timed it, but I think a load of coal like what you saw me put in the stove would last maybe 10 hours. I don’t think I ever used more than twice that amount in an entire day and night. Out entire boat is extremely insulated also, and that’s definitely a big factor because after the boat heats up we can damp down the burn rate to go as slow as possible.
Does the stove have a price?
All of the latest prices on everything are at salamanderstoves.com. Hobbit currently selling for £710 including VAT.
Dommage pas en Français 😢😢😢
What about price?
All of the latest prices on everything are at salamanderstoves.com. Hobbit currently selling for £710 including VAT.
Why not a Reflex Diesel stove? No dirty space-consuming firewood. Less soot and ash They burn 24/7 for months. No more cold mornings and some models produce hot water for showers or radiators
I've never used a Reflex stove. My impression is that they're fantastic heating, and pretty reliable. But if I had to do it all over again, I'd definitely get another cast iron stove for all of the reasons that I went through in the latter part of the video. I love the economics of it, love watching the fire, love the simplicity, and don't mind the ash cleanup. And then there's the whole zombie apocalypse thing that I mentioned. :)
I definitely prefer the look of wood burning behind a massive glass window over a diesel flame behind a small window, and I'm certainly not going to swap out our stove, but I am very curious about the black iron stove that you mentioned. Do you have a link? I can't seem to find it when searching for Refo Landov 6000.
@@drakeParagon google the company name "refleks" with furnace, then products, then oil furnace, then at the very bottom is the 6000 a black cast iron, see the attachment which brings up a Word document with 4 photos and diagram with measurements.
Is this the one?
refleksheaters.eu/product/refleks-marine-heater-60m/
@@drakeParagon No. It looks 90% like your heater, just has diesel plumbing on it. I posed a link on your facebook page to the company website.
$1K for a wood stove that can only heat a 400 sqft tiny home. No thanks
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I have the cubic grizzly stove on my boat. I think if you don't have to pay for wood, it's cheeper than diesel or electric. I like having all three options on board. Could easily bolt or weld on a steel plate to expand the top.
I never thought about making our own custom plate expansion on top of the stove for additional cooking surface. Thanks for the suggestion! :)
Don't let Greta see this. Coal!
Our carbon footprint is pretty low.