ABANDONED 1958 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser - FIRST DRIVE IN 30 YEARS??
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You will not regret doing a rebuild, in fact it will put a huge smile on all of our faces!
I'm thinking it would put a smile on mine too!
@@NockRanchPEACE OF MIND, THATS THE SPIRIT!!!
Take the distibutor off and put a drill on the oil pump and see if there is oil coming out of the oil pressure tube. First. Then drop the pan could just be a clogged screen. Those oid engines are tough.
That's the plan!
The #3 push rod is bent. New lifters and push rods, examine the cam lobes, and replace cam if necessary. All of that can be accomplished in the engine bay.
I haven’t seen your wife in any recent videos. She was always fun
It's a good looking car! I love the 50,s cars too. It's worth fixing, I spent 2 year fixing a 1957 Ford Fairlane 500. I was 22 years old then, I'm 71 now, I just drove it up to get lottery tickets today!
That's awesome that you still have it!! enjoy.
Forever cars are forever projects. Don’t be discouraged. At least the transmission didn’t fall on you.
That sure would have sucked!
If you're gonna keep it, rebuild it. I still enjoy building engines after 40+ years.
Looking forward to it!
I'm 62, and boy does this bring back memories!
Glad to hear it!
You want to keep it. Do the complete engine overhaul. Or find a good core and get that done...?? I like your straight forward manner.
Thinkin I might just tear her down!
@@NockRanch What's to lose? Maybe even give it to a machinist for a while. .010" overbore, line hone, new cam bearings, hardened valve seats? It'd be a few grand I'm sure but heck, a running reliable vehicle is about $4K now a days. You already have the vehicle.
great video mick! Sucks that’s you might have to rebuild but i’d say this was still a success! She’s a beaut! Can’t wait for the next video.
Jayyyyy ROD. thanks boo
Rebuild it. That is one of the coolest cars on the planet.
I agree with this!
Would like to see a engine tear down and rebuild series.
Might have to!
Man i done so many of those back in the day.50 bucks in our family garage to do front seals , 300 for a engine change. 5.00 per wheel for drum brakes. that was 1976 , those were the days. Gene
Wow. Different times!
Best how to video, very entertaining and informative. Step by step was important for me to understand what was being done. Thanks for posting. Excellent job.
Thanks pal!
I certainly wouldn't rebuild just yet. I agree with another comment of spinning the oil pump and potentially dropping the pan. Worst case scenario, I'd simply replace the cam, lifters, timing set, and push rods. I don't see any reason to do a full rebuild. Keep up the good work!
Thanks pally!
+1 for the rebuild 👍
Definitely on the table!
Rebuild, if u plan to keep. You'll be happier in the end.
I think so too!
Good to see you restore it They are very rare now I have a 57 Monarch. I put diesel in my crankcase to clean out the engine and change oil again.
Those Monarchs are sweet!
Yes, you are right. Don't do it by yourself, get help a friend car enthusiast. It happens 😅on me, too, but after five months of slow effort, all comes up great 👍. Thank you for sharing.
you have turned into one of my favorite channels. great content and quality, keep it up
Appreciate it pal, thank you!
Hey man, really dig this car, and your channel.
Personally, I would change the pushrods, lifters and examine the cam. Also, verify that the valves in the cylinder head aren't sticking, which could potentially bend a pushrod. I would also pump oil through the engine via a drill and possibly look at the pickup screen to see if it is clogged with trash. I'd wager the engine has a lot of life left in it!
A second option could also be finding a good running replacement engine that you could swap in while doing an R&R to the current engine. I would consider this option if you are wanting to get the car back on the road asap!
Best of luck!
Thanks pal. I appreciate you!
you're supposed to have it running to check trans fluid level to get an accurate reading Mick
It never EVER fails , that when I leave my windows down (because it's such a nice day) it rains , if I ever think we need a little rain , I just leave my windows down . Today we had a pretty good downpour ,but that's ok because someone ran a stop sign and totaled my car. Welcome to my life .
Hey get ahold of kiwi out there in tennessee. He's got a guy that's into these cars. And also you can try Silas out there and kansas. Hey I had a couple of these but been a while. Adventure made from scratch
Hey my father was a general manager of a Mercury dealership back in the fifties and we had one of these Turnpike Cruisers it was white with gold trim you have something very special there and it's worth every penny to make it right you don't see many of these around is the design it's so different everybody knows exactly what it is immediately not sure what your budget is like but you know you need engine in order to have a car, if you don't have that you don't have anything . You've gone this far I would take it all the way man what you have is one of a kind vehicle all I have left of the one I remember is a picture I would absolutely love to own another one of those my dad died in 1958 and that was the end of our Mercurys
I've been waiting for this Mick!
We're finally here! Sorry for the delay
Those old Y-Block Fords allways had problems with oiling the upper rocker arms,however, if the pusrods are not turnig you have a cam and lifter worn out. What I would suggest is put a cam and lifters set in and the timing chain will likely be worn out. The oroblem with the upper oiling is that the oil feed to the rickers is through one head bolt bore per bank. The oil feed passages are very small and need to be totally clear. If the oil pressure light stays out at operating temp the bearings are probably ok. One weak part is those gerotor oil pumps are very close tolerance and they will jam with the smallest particle circulating in the oil, and those oil systems are not 100% filtered. It appears that the rockers have been cleaned before, so it could have had a pre-existing condition up there. That (Tredle-Vac) brake booster has leather seals on a sliding piston and a rubber hose that passes through a seal in the metal housing; they we problematic when the cars were less than ten years old, I would suggest for safety reasons to rekit that whole master-booster setup. That old merc o matic it probably gonna give out soon because of internal pressure leaking from hardened piston seals so get ready for a rebuild.
Thanks for the tips!
I would do the diesel fuel trick, few mins, maybe drive around the block, but I would first check the oil pressure. Could be warn oil pump. Working on engines since I was 18.
I think that's the plan!
There is always the engine and transmission swap with parts readily available or pull the current motor and rebuild it to keep it original. I feel your pain tho laying on the ground working on the car, it's like looking at my past. I hope your big news includes a lift and more videos. 😊
Hoping that lift is in the near future!
Very cool 🤙 I have a buddy that recently inherited 500+ cars. He wants me to candy paint a few of his cars. So I've been picking my "payments" out of the collection. Have a half dozen picked already. As luck has it there's a 58 2 door turnpike in the stack. So far I choose a 49 cadillac flower truck, 36 ford's 5 window coupe and a pickup, a 57 rancheo, 54 mercury and a 57 new yorker I want to make my next couple choices wisely. There's big $ out there.
Dang that is crazy!
Reminds me of when I decided to install a new clutch into my 97 Ford F150 4x4 alone.... That was my worst week ever
Never fun...
Hope you make it big and can go full time. If that is what you want to do. You are my favorite RUclipsr and every time it has been awhile I am always worried maybe you aren't going to post anymore. Appreciate ya bud. Good video as always. Love the editing style you have. I am sure it takes a lot of time but it shows.
I appreciate this more than you know. Ya'll keep watching and I'll keep them coming! That's the goal.
Put marvel mystery oil in it . Clean the rocker shaft and each pushrod with air and brake clean . Put it back together and run it some . Put na oil pressure gage on and check the oil pressure .
That mystery oil sure does work wonders
Those late 1950's and early 60's automatic transmission were notorious for rear main seals failing . My old 1963 Mercury Monterey had the same issue.
My dad had a 57 mercury brand new and he told me that the cam shaft keeper going out after every 30,000 he put in the second one and sold it
Is your driver's nickname Wingnut perhaps ( at 19.45)? So good to see I'm not the only one to clean things properly before staring work!
A cheap tarp on the ground saves one from the yukky task of cleaning the garage floor or the stained cement driveway.
Pretty sure that is or should be a Mercury 383, which is a version of a Ford Y-block. Those are infamous for upper-end oiling issues. Engine rebuilds in old cars tend to turn into never-get-done projects. I'd dig into it first and find out why the rockers aren't oiling. May need to pull the intake and the valley cover and take a look. They used to retrofit oiling tubes up the side of the heads to oil the rockers, so don't get too wigged out about it just yet.
Appreciate you! Thanks
could do some work on the top end, possibly collapsed lifters….proper oil pressure reading would be a good idea, new lifters, push rods, adjust the valves and you might be okay good to go
The engines in cars of this era were only good for 100K usually. An overhaul would be in order. If the car is to be a keeper, then it would be well worth the expense and effort. One other note, if you pour diesel in the crankcase, the sludge and crap will most likely stop up your oil pump pickup screen causing major damage. Why do you have a needle and thread tattoo on your hand?
I'm thinking it'd be worth it too! Good eye. Believe it or not, sewing is something I enjoy doing in my down time
When removing seals run a self tapping screw pull with a pair of vice grips
Nock Ranch, do a top-end rebuild, no need to pull the motor..
I' d say, pull the engine out and rebuild it without running it again to minimize damages ^^ . Or, put a lot of diesel in it everywhere then remove the diesel, and rebuild the engine that will be cleaner ^^ .
It' s goin gto be frustrating. Always is when you delay the moment where you are driving it on the road reliably. : )
Sounds like one of Ford's better ideas.😊
The old engine rebuild would be great but that can get expensive. If you're intending to keep it and don't mind "updating" a car maybe look at a new engine (5.0 maybe out of an older mustang) with electronic ignition and over-drive transmission.
I'd do a full rebuild if you plan on keeping it. My uncle had one of these and I loved riding in it and for its day it was fast!
Hi from Christchurch, New Zealand enjoy your channel and work on the Ford mercury
Hello from the other side of the pond!
I had a 1962 Ford that had the same hydraulic lifters in your Merc engine, same ticking, they tend to get gummed up from prolonged sitting - I would try the diesel trick first, maybe even some Seafoam before doing a teardown.
I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
There's a shop in California called Karps break that will rebuild that unit for around $375. It's in Southern California.
cheap!
i love a designated PP good job helping teety
❤️
I remember buying a CAM2 filter in the 70's
I always like seeing old parts that aren't around anymore. Pretty cool
I have several early sixties Lincolns with that MEL engine. Besides your issues, these engines are notorious for blow by due to stuck and worn rings. Also they usually hold several coffee cans worth of rust in the water jackets to be cleaned out. I would suggest an entire rebuild. It has been 12 years since I rebuilt one, so I don't know how hard it is to get parts now. Another possibility is to get on the Lincoln slab side FB pages. Lots of good running 430s with trans are being pulled for modern engine swaps. (even though the 430 has 462 lb ft of torque at 2200 rpm). You can get a running engine with trans for $500. However, it may come with its own set of issues.
If it's not burning oil just put a cam and lifters in it , the rest should be fine
Sense you said it is a forever car, I wouldn't rebuild that moter. I would get something newer out of a junk yard. Maybe a Ford 302. Something that is easyer and cheaper to keep going. I would say that you are looking at a pretty penny to rebuild that engine. I like and enjoy watching your videos.
Thanks pal!
No opinion on what to do, but as you know I love the car AND your videos!
WOO! Thank you ❤️
Had to choose between diesel creek or NockRanch new videos and I chose wisely. If the car is going to be a staple in your timeline I say complete rebuild if funds are available. Pain will teach you lessons that pleasure never will. Im sorry for your loss inside and outside the shop.
Probably one of the coolest comments I've seen. I appreciate you
No do a rebuild. It a really cool looking car. Take your time and do it right. Take it easy bro
Thanks pally!
Rebuild it I love that car
If you are going to keep it, Don't half ass it, Rebuild it because it will happen eventually Throwing lifter's and top end parts at it just like putting a bandaid on it.
I think this would be a fun one to tear in to anyway!
I’d guess it had some sludge in it and the detergent in the new oil got it floating around into places in shouldn’t be. Id probably pull it and tear down to see what you’re working with.
I like the feature length videos. This may be an opportunity to do a collab with Jennings Motor Sports channel.
If the thin and fuel diluted oil that was in the engine didn’t clear out the sludge, then diesel won’t do it any good.
Shame that it happened. Great looking car. Pull the engine and do an exploratory. Pull the oil pan and check the crank bearings. Pull the intake and check the lifter surfaces. See if you can identify the problem. That said, she may be due for an overhaul.
Good point about the fuel diluted oil
Yewwwwwww Build er' up!! GOOD
aaayyyooo!
a greasy bottom of car is a less rusty bottom of a car....hey, take the good with the bad....enjoy the build.
That's what I say too 👍
If I were to do another trans. , I'd visit harbor freight and pick up a trans. jack .
Should've replaced the tail shaft seal and filter and pan gasket while you had it out
Eh, those are easy to get to in the car. Wanted to at least verify that everything was going to work first!
Kerosene in the crankcase is an old timer trick to free up gunk in the engine... about a quart is what I always was told....just let it idle, but i'm thinking that car was parked for a reason.... If you're going to keep it, and can do it yourself, the engine rebuild is a viable option... it stinks for sure to have to do it... you might get away with a cam and lifters and lapping the valves, but if you have other issues, it's a lot of work for not much gain.... BUUUUT if that car has the 430 MEL in it, I know a guy who did his 58 Lincoln and he's really happy with his car...
It just has the base MEL, but still plenty to get ya where you're goin!
Maybe just put in a modern drive train out of a Crown Vic to make it more reliable so you can take it on longer trips.
You have a very unusual and interesting model that screams 1950's.
I did put kerosene in mine with motor oil and it worked no more ticking
That's promising. Might have to giver a shot!
Lifter maybe just stuck. Pull the push rod and see if its clogged.
If you're going to keep it pull the motor and rebuild it if I remember the car was for your wife have her help you y'all can do it together
If it is a forever car pull the motor and trans and rear end rebuild all of them , clean up engine bay and replace what you planned then drive as is while you slowly do body and interior . That's my suggestion . I thought this was your wife's car by the way .
I could be wrong but i believe that is a 312 Cube motor.. as such, i will say that they where a pretty bullet proof motor,, I would do as others suggested,,fill with diesel oil,, and further,,,take a pair of pliers and forcible rotate each push rod, over and over again,,,because i believe the guides may be carbon ed up or rusted up.
another person mentioned the oil screen in the pump pick up being plugged,,,maybe,,? i dont think so, but its worth a shot.
anyhow,,,,Im a cheap son offa squirrel,,, so definitely manually rotate those push rods...
failing that,,,,Pull the heads and give it a quick turn around..
Best of Luck from the Great White North.
Thanks for the input!
You know you’re already going to replace the cam and lifters. At this point, you might as well pull it and do a quick rebuild before you have to get the crank ground. Getting all that old buildup out of the block should help to prolong its life. Don’t forget to get the sludge out of the water jackets too. You don’t want to plug the radiator with rust
Definitely going to have to do a deep clean on that thing!
Do a total rebuild
Just put the push rods and clean the centers out, then adjust them
Thinkin this is going to be my first step, just to see 👍
I love these 1957 to 1959 Mercury Monterey and Turnpike Cruiser so much !!! I wish I have one. Maybe one day. I already have 7 cars ^^ . I don't know if you have the shop manual for this car, maybe the detail to remove the transmission is in the shop manual but there are a ton of usefull info in them. I only checked on rockauto, there are a Dvd or USB drive available ( shop manual + parts and illustration catalog )
I can send you one if you want.
Sure would be helpful to have one of those books on pdf!
@@NockRanch Ok :) . If I can contribute, from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean to help you on this car, returning to driving condition, saving it, and having you enjoying it, I' ll be very glad. My economic condition kind of improved this year, so it will be a pleasure to send you one from Rockauto. I' ll get your info by private message if it's ok for you ? : )
@@selenelacaze9883 That would be awesome! My shipping info is in the description of my videos:
Mick Nock
PO Box 770743
Lakewood, OH 44107
A dry hardened front pump seal can wear a groove in to the torque converter snout causing a leak, same as the crankshaft front seal. There's repair sleeves available for both. Does the Mercury have a Y block or MEL engine? If it's a Y block, an FE (352, 390, etc) and Cruise-o-matic should be a fairly simple bolt in swap other than sorting out the pushbutton shifter.
It's got the MEL 👍
Pull engine..rebuild, pull tranny..rebuild, pull rear end..rebuild..easy peasy.
What's there not to love?
Dive in to see what's wrong. I'll watch those videos, too.
I'll definitely have an update at some point!
Start simple just fix what is ticking and go from there before you do major rebuild
Tough break finding out about the ticking. Hey I just found out that I was somehow unsubscribed- you still show up on my feed but I think you might want to remind subscribers to check. Building your channel may help with future projects- good luck with all your projects
I've heard this happening to a few people. I'll give a reminder. Thanks!
Putting diesel in the crankcase will not likely make its way through the oil galley to the rockers since it's a poor design, prone to sludging.
I would first do a compression test to get an idea of the condition of the rings in the functioning cylinders. If compression looks good, just a partial tear down may be all that is required. I know nothing about those engines.
As for the gas tank, I filled up my then 7 year old 67 T-bird. When I got back to my apartment a stream of gas was pouring out. I was able to plug it with a wad of something and drain the tank into my other car. 'Bird was gone soon after.
Rebuilt it!
If you love the car fix it. Don’t screw it up more. A 60+ year old car (and person) takes money and time to keep running.
I see no lies!
I have heard of maladies like your engine noise happening on old cars that used to run with NON-DETERGENT oil previously and switched over to modern detergent oil. I don't know what your engine had in it before, but it could've been something like that. The sludge gets loose and gums everything up. I know I have to run non-detergent oil in my 37 Chrysler with the original engine.
Would love to see that 37 Chrysler!
@@NockRanch I have a couple shorts posted. She's real purty!
LS Swap or coyote?
Fix Her up take your time ⏲️ I'll keep watching 👀 🚗👍
Appreciate you!
I'd rather run atf through my engine than diesel.
Actually that seal just holds the leak the bushing behind the seal holds the pressure replace the bushing too please😂
Bummer, press on Mick....Dude, it's content that will be relative to the better end result....It's a Ford, nuff said.
Agreed!
Rebuild ground up you want regret it ..Dont hurry do it all the way..
Definitely considering!
You dont need to be doing it twice pull it an rebuild it
Bad news indeed...do you feel the need to teach a rebuild? Others have done them on their channel. If not, swap something IN and have it rebuilt later. This might be time to put in a 460, if you want the land yacht feel, or a 351 that's been used in a mustang for racing. That way you're fabricating or modifying mounts and having it go down the road will justify the other "projects" you're wanting to share with us.
Ummm I think you should just give it to me :-) lol
I appreciate the try haha!
Nice car Bro, but why are you in disguise?
I've always found those glasses with the nose and mustache to be incredibly inspirational...
They must be, I watched the whole video. Anyway super nice ride!
Ask me how I know😢
8 years ago I bought a 67 Ford Galaxie 4 door on ebay sight unseen. It had 47 k miles on the 390 and a bad lifter tick. I drove it for a few weeks, then pulled the manifold, lifters pushrods and camshaft. it had 3 wiped out lobes and corresponding dished out lifters. Flushed the pan and oil pick up screen and replaced the lifters and camshaft. That was 50k miles ago. shes running great. I say that because my car was at 45 k. If that wouldve happened at 95 k I wouldve done a complete rebuild. You probably could cobble it back but since youre keeping her and shes at 100 k Id be inclined to give her some love.
I'm thinkin the same! that 67 Galaxie is a sweet ride
U murdered that engine. Buy an electric car.
On my way to the tesla dealership