Rowing Technique - You need to push AND pull!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
  • For indoor rowing technique, you may have been told to push with the legs and not pull with the arms. Well, in my case anyway, that can damage your techniqe, your speed and therefore your times - and increase your chances of injury.
    I was always told when I started on the rowing machine that the stroke is all about pushing, not about pulling. I'd taught myself how to row anyway, so when people gave me some real advice, I followed it.
    What I found though is that after a while, I'd stopped pulling with an kind of effort. Just a lacklutre autopilot finish. In this video, I explain why only thinking about pushing may be harming your rowing technique. And it's not just me talking - I've got some pretty force curves too...
    E=PR x2 Efficiency = Push Rock x Push Recover
    (I realise of course that this equation is wrong - but hey, it looks good....)
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    ℹ - 2K training paces are based on your current best performance to row 2000m. Set your monitor to 2000m and row it as fast as you can. When you're finished either look at the memory screen for that row, and note the Average /500m pace - or just divide your time by 4 to find that out.
    For instance - if you rowed your 2000m in 8:20 - the average pace for 500m is 2:05. It doesn't matter if you started at 1:50 and then slowed down to 2:20 by the end - your average across the whole row is 2:05.
    So when I give a pace guide saying "2K + 18 seconds" - that means that you take your 2K time, and add 18 seconds to it (in the above example, 2:05 + 18 = 2:23 pace.) Just be sure to set your monitor so it displays your /500m pace so you can stay on target.
    Every time you think you're getting faster, rather than just arbitrarily changing the pace guide - do another 2000m test to find your current 2K average time - and then work from that. ℹ
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Комментарии • 37

  • @johnwestergaard1421
    @johnwestergaard1421 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent video, John! I have been rowing for a year and a half, 95% of the time to your videos. I always appreciate the technique instruction as I find I need to focus on this on every row. My stroke is getting better, but gosh, it requires concentration! I'm going to take a look at my force curve and see how it looks - then make any adjustments necessary! Thanks again for all you do! Just finished "The Grid", btw - really great idea. I look forward to more of these! I hit two PRs as a result and had a lot of fun.

  • @sotampacane
    @sotampacane 3 года назад

    Glad you did this one John. We agree completely

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Thanks. I wasn't too sure if this was a bit too niche a subject to talk about - but it sounds like lots of people are finding it interesting.

  • @patriciaviguurs8648
    @patriciaviguurs8648 3 года назад

    Great perspectives, very well presented and visualized with new vital terms! Thanks. :)

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Thankyou! I'm really pleased you like it. I wanted to make sure it contained a bit more info than just being negative about the concept of pushing and not pulling without any backup info.

  • @funkung77
    @funkung77 2 года назад

    Spot on thanks. Noticed the inverted curve at the finish in my stroke...

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  2 года назад

      The force curve is very revealing. And it’s really interesting to look at as legs only, then legs and back, then back / arms - and then the whole stroke.

  • @lawriecook
    @lawriecook 3 года назад

    Excellent video, some very useful tips. Thanks.

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Thanks Lawrie, I'm really pleased you enjoyed it.

  • @FreeLancerLondon
    @FreeLancerLondon 3 года назад

    Thanks. Very clear and helpful. Cheers

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Thanks Paul. I'm pleased it helped. Took a while to get the wording right on this one, so it didn't sound like I was "Having a go" at a certain RUclips rowing guy.

  • @adzy166
    @adzy166 3 года назад +1

    Great presentation, lots of really good advice in here. I’ve been doing the Mud Season challenge this month and the many hours on the machine has really helped put a lot of this advice into practice. Cheers, John !

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад +1

      In the end, that's really what it comes down to. You can watch as many videos, and read as many books as you like - but really, it's time on the machine that makes the difference. I hope the Mud Season is going well for you.

    • @adzy166
      @adzy166 3 года назад

      @@rowalong just finished it today. 31 days @ min 10k a day. Been a really good learning experience.

  • @chrisjbarrow
    @chrisjbarrow 3 года назад

    Thanks John, very thought provoking. Thinking back to my rowing technique, I think I am guilty of a lackluster pull. Everything going into the push with the legs and swing with the back. Something to look at on my next row and see what affect it has

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Switching over to your force curve should really show that. If you want to spend time focusing on it, then just do the back and arms drill. Added bonus of that is that you can really think about your backswing - hinging over your hips - as you do it too. It's a 2 for 1!

  • @ellewilkinson5211
    @ellewilkinson5211 3 года назад +1

    I LOVE the idea and the expression « Giant Butt Scoot » 🤣 and what an incredibly interesting video with so much great information and very much appreciated! Always get excited when the notifications foe new videos pops up! Thank you John it’s a new sport which brings me a great deal of pleasure and each video is very much appreciated and enjoyed. 🙏

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад +1

      Would that be the butt scoot of a giant? Or someone scooting with a giant butt? Or is it just a big but scoot?

    • @ellewilkinson5211
      @ellewilkinson5211 3 года назад

      @@rowalong Ha ha ha I’m going with the first one 😂

  • @GADesser
    @GADesser 3 года назад +1

    Another well done video. Your examples are spot on. Good one for first thing with my coffee. On to W5S5.

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Thanks George. And I hope S5 goes well.

  • @timconnolly7796
    @timconnolly7796 3 года назад +1

    Solid video John! Clear, concise well illustrated. I especially liked Retro Johnny illustrating how not to row and along comes Mod Johnny to show us the redeemed rower.
    Nicely done!

    • @timconnolly7796
      @timconnolly7796 3 года назад

      Also. You've heard of a song you can't get out of your head some call them earworms. Well can I say that those shorts might be the visual equivalent for me.

    • @triplecap4307
      @triplecap4307 3 года назад

      @@timconnolly7796 But that wasn't retro John in the video. He never rowed like that, with such weak arms at the end. At least since I've been following him, close to if not slightly more than a year.

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      @@timconnolly7796 Thanks, I'm pleased the video got the info across. I love those shorts. Not just because they're Van Halen - but because people can see me from miles away!

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      @@triplecap4307 True. I was definitely putting on an exaggerated version of a weak finish. It's never been that bad, but the difference on video between the real "Old stroke" and what I do now is imperceptible in terms of what you see on screen, so I had to exaggerate.

  • @marcmartineau7858
    @marcmartineau7858 3 года назад

    Nice video John as always ! That would be nice if you can do a video only concentrated on force curve with different examples when we do it right or wrong. There is not a lot of info on force curve on the Internet and it’s a wonderful tool to check the technique. Thanks ! 😉

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад +2

      Ah, I did wonder if this would pop up as a request after it being in here. I'll add that to my list. Thanks for suggesting is Marc.

  • @SharleneMcKinnon
    @SharleneMcKinnon 2 года назад

    Love this "started to develop a strange quirk to my stroke" and "you'll develop a giant butt scoot" and "learn to connect to your stroke." Words of wisdom from an experienced rower.

  • @stretchydave
    @stretchydave Месяц назад

    Great vid.....thanks...

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  Месяц назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @riccosx8143
    @riccosx8143 3 года назад

    Good topic John, i just realized (I'm new..C2 since mid January) that I have been rocking first, then throwing my arms
    forward on the recovery. I find the return hip swing to be the most difficult so I'm too focused on it, forgetting the arms
    s/b first. Timestamp 6:52 was like "oh yeah...right".

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад

      Oh wow! I'm so pleased this helped then. I wasn't sure if this was just me having a rant, and it wouldn't go further than people just thinking about pulling etc. But if it's also helped you with your recovery - then even if no one else gets anything out of this - my work is done!

  • @jeremymartin1610
    @jeremymartin1610 3 года назад

    When I learned to row with wooden oars many years ago we were taught to pull hard with arms right through the stroke. When carbon oars first came out lots of people got bad backs because of the extra stiffness and that was why the technique changed to just pushing with the legs at the catch.

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад +1

      That's really interesting. I never really gave any thought to the difference between wooden and carbon oars. I guess probably because I only look at this from a rowing machine point of view, rather than 'real' rowing.

  • @ScottBurrow
    @ScottBurrow 3 года назад +1

    Great Video John . I liked the Force Curve explanation. I've got a little spike on my curve aprox 2/3 through now I realize thats my arms kicking in. I think I need to work and strengthen my hip swing?

    • @rowalong
      @rowalong  3 года назад +1

      It sounds like it. My guess would be that you're not flowing from legs to back to arms. Try doing just the back rock and the arms - similar to what we do in the warm up for most of my videos. And watch the force curve - it should still be a smooth hump once you get going.