I tried googling if this was a meme or something, and i didn't find anything. Is it that A lot of Europeans play this?? and if so why?? Like the last YCS Europe 23 topcut, Sunavalon was only 5% of the population
They want you to buy the new aroma stuff if/when it comes out Because none of it compares to the hilarity of konkon, they had to remove non-aroma ability to gain LP and trigger jasmine
My thought on Prosp is that they were stuck in a Catch-22; if they were to hit it now they would get tons of shit for leaving Prosp alone until the moment it became budget and then immediately killing it.
@@SolarityVision They also didn't mass limit floodgates before; its obvious Konami is taking a different approach with this list. If you're basically just gonna copy that last dudes comment I'll copy my response I already made.
there’s also more floodgates in the game than there was before. Also they have unlimited flood gates in past. But seriously, every ban list there’s always a comment where it’s “they’re taking a different approach this time around”. Wake me up when everyone of these generic floodgates are banned
He even ended his stream today an hour before the ban list appeared. This looks like his wet dream. Seems pretty convenient he ended his stream and then the banlist showed up. 😂
@@Druid-T 1 Branded Fusion, 2 Scorp, and banning Instant, Master Duel just hates Predaplant. Having said that as a Lunalight user, Tear can burn for getting Foolish Burial Goods limited. Perlereino delenda est
@@kingofgrim4761 spright is so nerfed already in master duel, i really wanted the lv2 tear monster to come back to 1 at least, don't think there is any problem in master duel to give tear a little boost, ishizu is dead and there is quite a lot of purrely and kashtira, also lots of bystial for the d-links, branded and some synchro players using them too, so i think it would be just fine (but they could ban all the remaining ishizu cards just to be sure)
It looks like a really good banlist. I’m just curious what Ib could do in this era of Yu-Gi-Oh!. I’m aware it was a very powerful card, I used it. But I don’t know what kind of strategies could run it considering the strongest decks now. I think I’ll have to see what the content creators or people on twitter do with it.
@@randomsamurai3855she’s a level 5 synchro that can use a normal world chalice monster as a tuner for her summon, on summon she searches as world chalice spell and when she is sent to the graveyard you can summon any world chalice monster from your deck or graveyard
@@randomsamurai3855when halq still alive, one for one was a full gumblar combo, it was main staple of dragon link too when agarpain still legal. She's a busted card in general due to how splashable she is, but now her pay offs and her partner in crime are gone, so I guess she wouldn't do much outside of world legacy decks (mekk knight, crusadia, world chalice, orcust, krawler)
When Tidal comes off the list, I will be worried because it has easily the most splashable effect. Redox is a reborn that I can see being played in any Earth deck that has room in it. I am an unabashed D-Ruler fan so I am glad to see them coming back.
I don't know the TCG too much but these seem like very interesting changes to the said banlist. The only one I question with what I know is why is Upstart at 3 randomly a big deal aside from Sky Striker considering it's at 3 in MD and I have hardly ever seen it be used.
Mostly for the Exodia boomers who want to pile as many draw spells as possible together, to make a bad Exodia deck. That, and the like 2012 deckbuilding theory that you should always run 3 Upstart to see your starters as often as possible by playing 37 cards rather than 40. Unfortunately for these 2 groups, Ash and Droll exist.
@virulenthunter3017 yeah, but I'm saying that old Exodia decks that would run 3 Upstart were from a time when Ash did not exist. Ash for the final searcher for OTK us way better than a random upstart.
Honestly, Shifter is fine. It locks both players out of the GY so it can't be player everywhere without caution, and it punishes GY spam decks hard, wich in general are BS to play against.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912the issue is the only decks that play it are decks that don’t care about the graveyard at all, or can do just fine routes without it, whereas for the opponent it’s a turn skip if it resolves against the right deck. It’s objectively unfair
@@joanaguayoplanell4912I'm sorry but you're just wrong as someone else said, the only decks that play shifter are ones that either benefit from it or decks that simply don't care. against the vast majority of decks, shifter either autowins, or puts you immensely ahead
Purrely’s consistency has been hurt for sure, but it’s probably still tier 2. I think we might also have to play more than 1 yeap. Likely 2, 3 could be a brick
4:53 You wanna talk about you are getting wrecked, my boy. I've been wanting to play that deck since it came out in amazing defenders. I bought this for christmas. So imagine how I feel
The thing with Infernity Archfiend is that Lawnchair is still at 1 so the bullshit is still limited. I am shocked that Kirin didn't get unbanned since there is new Majespecter support coming out. If they were going to bring back Snatch Steal, at least they banned Isolde because fuck that.
Even as a Lab and Eldlich player, I love that they hit the gozen rivalry TCBOO all in one go. Fuck those cards man. So much unfun. I’m glad they hit those instead of the Lab engine. Honestly strange that Skill Drain and ASF didn’t get limited too, but I suppose that is because they have more limited applications and aren’t as splashable (in the case of Skill Drain) or are absolutely useless going second as well as really don’t help “stun” decks much (in the case of ASF)
Farts I think said it best. Do you honestly need 3? Sure you can see it a lot more in opening hands but if you can loop one the other two are kinda dead
@@VisForVindetta Plus the main enabler of the deck, Launcher, is still at 1. If Launcher ever came back at more than 1 with Archfiend at 3 then we would have a problem.
I think this is a pretty solid banlist. I still think Fountain needs to be set to 1. While the floodgates are set to 1, theres still a chance of getting stun locked. At least if you get rid of the fountain once, you have a slim chance at playing the game. I am a little sad about the circular ban since I found a way of playing Mathmech Plunder with a 5-6 negate board with just 1 circular on MD. Wanted to try it in TCG. Oh well.
@@egggge4752 theres ways around that though. Watching Runick players have 3 fountains and then just recycle them back after you somehow removed 3 was so annoying. I'd rather deal with 1 and they're forced to bring him out over huggin than having to deal with potentially 3 fountains (with the fusion card's effect) in 1 duel.
Banish Fountain is death condamnation for them 😅. And at least, they limited them. Can't wait to see stun mlayers trying to play Decks like Zefra just to get access to any sort of lock X)
Mathmeck def deserve it Cyberse does everything even with archetype or not, just need cyberse and it work, but they still slap circular in, it should go
I think people are underestimating the unlimited upstart goblin. 40 cards now is 37, without considering the other pot cards in the game. Things going to be even faster now
It's worth considering that Droll has been eating good for a bit now, and while a 37 card deck is good, the trouble is that in your opener going second, it could have been a hand trap; and in your opener going first, you draw one card and get immediately drolled. As for the impact of Upstart, it's fine so long as there isn't the full critical mass of 3 of: chicken game, pseudo space, terraforming, into the void, etc. And further, Upstart does conflict with Prosperity, so there's that consideration.
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes Thats a garbage argument. You can make that same stupid "justification" For most monsters that are on the list. Just Ash, Imperm, Veiler Halq, Verte lol 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@mainganson4069 What are you talking about it dominated for several months when it released not even a year ago and just got shot up to high tier RIGHT NOW with the cyberse support.
@@FrostReavethat deck is nowhere to be seen dude, people are just coping at this point, the dominating decks right now are vanquish soul, d link, and branded. Mathmech hasn’t done anything in MD to even get hit in the slightest.
@@FrostReave even in tcg/ocg the dominating decks right now are unchained and rescue-ace. Mathmech was the top 0.28% played at most in those two formats. Even in its prime, the best Mathmech can do is winning some locals.
If you want to diss the one-card combo, what about kashtira? One single Unicorn or Fenrir can put up far more than one single circular can do. Even when hit by handtrap, except nib, their present alone is an interruption. They can even use the most disturbing handtrap in the game which is shifter. Why not hit kash then?
But on an equip spell. They unbanned it for one format and then immediately banned it again the next. Everyone used it Now these days it might be an issue like before but idk
"THEY NERFED THE EUROPEANS" will be one of my favorite lines from Coder ever
"Fuck this deck", on the other hand, I shall remember, we'll see
Not that as they needed to 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🔫🔫🔫💯💯💯💯🅱️🅱️
I tried googling if this was a meme or something, and i didn't find anything. Is it that A lot of Europeans play this?? and if so why??
Like the last YCS Europe 23 topcut, Sunavalon was only 5% of the population
@@M1911papit is because rikka won 2 EU Championchips in a row and top a lot
Haven't heard that line since WW2
At least all of the Kevin's neighbors heard about the banlist changes
I think they saw Rikka Sunavalon doing so well in Europe, years after it’s release and said to themselves “Ain’t no way”
They want you to buy the new aroma stuff if/when it comes out
Because none of it compares to the hilarity of konkon, they had to remove non-aroma ability to gain LP and trigger jasmine
My thought on Prosp is that they were stuck in a Catch-22; if they were to hit it now they would get tons of shit for leaving Prosp alone until the moment it became budget and then immediately killing it.
That has not stopped them before
@@AlphaSquadZero They also didn't mass limit floodgates before; its obvious Konami is taking a different approach with this list.
@@Nocturne989I’ve heard that one before
@@SolarityVision They also didn't mass limit floodgates before; its obvious Konami is taking a different approach with this list.
If you're basically just gonna copy that last dudes comment I'll copy my response I already made.
there’s also more floodgates in the game than there was before. Also they have unlimited flood gates in past.
But seriously, every ban list there’s always a comment where it’s “they’re taking a different approach this time around”. Wake me up when everyone of these generic floodgates are banned
Joshua Schmidt works for Konami confirmed
Facts 😂
He even ended his stream today an hour before the ban list appeared. This looks like his wet dream. Seems pretty convenient he ended his stream and then the banlist showed up. 😂
Very sus, ngl@@myoblivion420
It does kinda look that way
@@myoblivion420his deck was untouched too lmao
Konami: Unbans Snatch Steal
YGO Community: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN!
😂 the yoink meta is crazy
Dude live dismantled the floodgate traps for the crafting points 💀
As a Branded Predaplant player, I dread every banlist as one day they will hit "Instant Fusion" and I will have to play U-Poly.
Instant is fine ATM. It's on Konami if they drop a card that breaks it
Never forget what Master Duel did to that deck in the name of protecting Kit and Tear
@@Druid-T 1 Branded Fusion, 2 Scorp, and banning Instant, Master Duel just hates Predaplant. Having said that as a Lunalight user, Tear can burn for getting Foolish Burial Goods limited. Perlereino delenda est
@@Druid-Tthey made tear not broken without ishizu cards so I’d say that’s a W. Still think maybe spright elf ban could’ve been almost enough
@@kingofgrim4761 spright is so nerfed already in master duel, i really wanted the lv2 tear monster to come back to 1 at least, don't think there is any problem in master duel to give tear a little boost, ishizu is dead and there is quite a lot of purrely and kashtira, also lots of bystial for the d-links, branded and some synchro players using them too, so i think it would be just fine (but they could ban all the remaining ishizu cards just to be sure)
It's not an actual banlist reaction without Coder ripping off a card.
That rivalry put up a hell of a fight
wow. they really said "yeah, 4 months of unchained is enough, unplayable status with you"
Lol probably to get ready for the Fire King deck release
Better than "Yeah, two weeks of Infernoble getting one top cut at one YCS, unplayable status for OG and slight limp for Infernoble for you."
I don't know if this is a good banlist but it's certainly the happiest Coder video I've ever seen
does he just have cards he hates ready to be ripped? 😂
You'd hate a floodgate too id you spent every day looking at it while you stream.
@@wickederebus no i understand completely as i got back into masterdual
I have a Shifter or two ready to get torn asunder when that motherfucker gets banned.
I once crushed a Merli in my fist. It felt great.
@@moonjelly5 you sick bastard /s
It looks like a really good banlist. I’m just curious what Ib could do in this era of Yu-Gi-Oh!. I’m aware it was a very powerful card, I used it. But I don’t know what kind of strategies could run it considering the strongest decks now. I think I’ll have to see what the content creators or people on twitter do with it.
Generaider can use it to search monstrosity. Its nothing crazy but it gives the deck a few more lines.
@@adamushu yep, you can use The Link to do The same in Generaiders
Im not aware of its power what can it do?
@@randomsamurai3855she’s a level 5 synchro that can use a normal world chalice monster as a tuner for her summon, on summon she searches as world chalice spell and when she is sent to the graveyard you can summon any world chalice monster from your deck or graveyard
@@randomsamurai3855when halq still alive, one for one was a full gumblar combo, it was main staple of dragon link too when agarpain still legal. She's a busted card in general due to how splashable she is, but now her pay offs and her partner in crime are gone, so I guess she wouldn't do much outside of world legacy decks (mekk knight, crusadia, world chalice, orcust, krawler)
coder went insano for the floodgates what a good day
They hit the f*cking internet!
As a naturia vernusylphishizu player the agido kelbek thing hurt me
But lets be real it was a matter of time
@@thegameguardian103 yeah ngl since its the only deck i made from 0 im curious to cook with it
Imagine this scenario: Use Pot of Desires, effect resolves and you draw 2 more Pot of Desires.. GGs
When Tidal comes off the list, I will be worried because it has easily the most splashable effect. Redox is a reborn that I can see being played in any Earth deck that has room in it. I am an unabashed D-Ruler fan so I am glad to see them coming back.
I don't know the TCG too much but these seem like very interesting changes to the said banlist. The only one I question with what I know is why is Upstart at 3 randomly a big deal aside from Sky Striker considering it's at 3 in MD and I have hardly ever seen it be used.
Mostly for the Exodia boomers who want to pile as many draw spells as possible together, to make a bad Exodia deck.
That, and the like 2012 deckbuilding theory that you should always run 3 Upstart to see your starters as often as possible by playing 37 cards rather than 40.
Unfortunately for these 2 groups, Ash and Droll exist.
@@wickederebus Well all that I guessed actually.
@@wickederebusDroll sure but I'd rather have someone Ash my draw one instead of a searcher.
@virulenthunter3017 yeah, but I'm saying that old Exodia decks that would run 3 Upstart were from a time when Ash did not exist.
Ash for the final searcher for OTK us way better than a random upstart.
@@wickederebus I'm talking about your "2012 deck building theory" group lol
This is one of the best lists I've seen in a minute. RIP Isolde 😢
It’s crazy that Konami banned Circular for TCG but didn’t touch it at all in MD
Holy sh. I thought this was MD because one of my friends sent me this because he knows I love playing mathmech
I think the OCG still has Circular as a Limited card, if my sources are correct.
The only bad thing about this is that Infernoble will no longer be playable. Was such a fun combo deck.
Konami will probably print a less generic replacement piece eventually
Wow so fun summoning Dolphin and rip a card from mm y oppononent hand
Still very much playable. It's OG that's no longer functionally playable.
Damn dude im so sad the deck that handrips and puts up the most unbreakable board is dead. How will the format recover
@@RanDoomPuffDo you have time to talk about our doom, Dark World
Truly one of the best banlists of all time. Only Shifter and EEV dodged it. Reminds me a little of January 2020 Banlist
Pot of Prosperity and Crossout Designator giggling in the shadows?
@dinosore_rs prosperity will be on the list soon, it was only recently reprinted. Crossout has been doing nothing since forever
Honestly, Shifter is fine. It locks both players out of the GY so it can't be player everywhere without caution, and it punishes GY spam decks hard, wich in general are BS to play against.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912the issue is the only decks that play it are decks that don’t care about the graveyard at all, or can do just fine routes without it, whereas for the opponent it’s a turn skip if it resolves against the right deck. It’s objectively unfair
@@joanaguayoplanell4912I'm sorry but you're just wrong
as someone else said, the only decks that play shifter are ones that either benefit from it or decks that simply don't care. against the vast majority of decks, shifter either autowins, or puts you immensely ahead
Vampire with youik spells and zombie world stuff gonna be wild.
Absolute W list bringing back Harp. Time for me to get on that Orcopium grindset!
Purrely’s consistency has been hurt for sure, but it’s probably still tier 2. I think we might also have to play more than 1 yeap. Likely 2, 3 could be a brick
I died when bro couldnt rip the card.
I'm sad we have reached a point where Archfiend and Judgment can be fully unbanned and people just go "Yeah, it's fine, whatever"
Gah, my Rivalry and Gozen… my magnet warrior deck will never be the same…
4:53 You wanna talk about you are getting wrecked, my boy. I've been wanting to play that deck since it came out in amazing defenders. I bought this for christmas. So imagine how I feel
Orcust gamers rise!
We are so back!
Since you are going to do more TCG stuff. Are you planning on doing any edopro, dueling book or Nexus potentially to get the deal TCG online?
7:32 Coder commits a war crime, or is this a case of "the evil has been defeated" ?
This list basically said, "This list is for new skystrikers"
EVERY DAY WE STRAY CLOSER TO TOSS.
The thing with Infernity Archfiend is that Lawnchair is still at 1 so the bullshit is still limited. I am shocked that Kirin didn't get unbanned since there is new Majespecter support coming out. If they were going to bring back Snatch Steal, at least they banned Isolde because fuck that.
8:05 literally the highlight reaction of coder: "There can be only one? In fact there can only be one, dude! Fuck that shit!!!" XDDDDDD I cant ... xd
Even as a Lab and Eldlich player, I love that they hit the gozen rivalry TCBOO all in one go. Fuck those cards man. So much unfun. I’m glad they hit those instead of the Lab engine.
Honestly strange that Skill Drain and ASF didn’t get limited too, but I suppose that is because they have more limited applications and aren’t as splashable (in the case of Skill Drain) or are absolutely useless going second as well as really don’t help “stun” decks much (in the case of ASF)
Infernity archfiend at 3!!!!! This fills my heart with great joy! But alas… they are not as good as they used to be tho. D:
Maybe they can do some shenanigans with Orcust or they lock itself to fiends?
Farts I think said it best. Do you honestly need 3? Sure you can see it a lot more in opening hands but if you can loop one the other two are kinda dead
@@VisForVindetta Plus the main enabler of the deck, Launcher, is still at 1. If Launcher ever came back at more than 1 with Archfiend at 3 then we would have a problem.
‘But shifter doesnt need to be banned‘ said floowandereze players
Where labrynth hits
Where runick hits
joshua will be very happy about the plant nerfs
Konamy really wants people to buy new skystriker supports
As an infernity enjoyer I'm loving my boy being freed
8:55 Thank you for that
Joshua Schmidt is secretly a Konami employee confirmed
2019 IS BACK BOYSSSSSSSS
Can’t wait for runick to be hit. It doesn’t deserve fountain at 2 and tip at 3.
They didn’t limit Fenrir so I can afford decks again 😭
Jokes on you Coder, I always standby playing the big blue dog.
I think this is a pretty solid banlist. I still think Fountain needs to be set to 1. While the floodgates are set to 1, theres still a chance of getting stun locked. At least if you get rid of the fountain once, you have a slim chance at playing the game.
I am a little sad about the circular ban since I found a way of playing Mathmech Plunder with a 5-6 negate board with just 1 circular on MD. Wanted to try it in TCG. Oh well.
Only if you banish fountain. The 4 star runick fusion can bring it back from the gy.
@@egggge4752 theres ways around that though. Watching Runick players have 3 fountains and then just recycle them back after you somehow removed 3 was so annoying. I'd rather deal with 1 and they're forced to bring him out over huggin than having to deal with potentially 3 fountains (with the fusion card's effect) in 1 duel.
Fountain is at 2 though @@Th3og0ny
Banish Fountain is death condamnation for them 😅. And at least, they limited them. Can't wait to see stun mlayers trying to play Decks like Zefra just to get access to any sort of lock X)
Dude, you know that this is TCG, right? Runick Stun is barely playable and just got three hits.
They crippled my poor cats
Yeah. Poor kitties keep taking Ls. First Master Duel and now this
Fuck purrely bro, 5000 mat towers with interruption and draw 50 is kinda stupid
Is the deck actually crippled now!? I feel like it should at least still be solid?
@@k-dawgHI well... it's probably fine but losing the ability to search it off of My Friend is huge
@@k-dawgHIIts not. The deck is still fine just a bit more inconsistent
that was an unexpected reactions to circular by a cyberse enjoyer
It also needs a pot of greed to 1 after all we got three draw 1 so we can have 1 draw 2
Mathmeck def deserve it
Cyberse does everything even with archetype or not, just need cyberse and it work, but they still slap circular in, it should go
yo the new banlist is out look at it and you going to be shock
Woooo Two Coder Vids In One Day
ppl We Made It
We Got Our Priorities Right
I've always thought that salad was coders favourite. Weird. Mind, I never did ask this was purely an assumption.
I think people are underestimating the unlimited upstart goblin. 40 cards now is 37, without considering the other pot cards in the game. Things going to be even faster now
It's worth considering that Droll has been eating good for a bit now, and while a 37 card deck is good, the trouble is that in your opener going second, it could have been a hand trap; and in your opener going first, you draw one card and get immediately drolled.
As for the impact of Upstart, it's fine so long as there isn't the full critical mass of 3 of: chicken game, pseudo space, terraforming, into the void, etc.
And further, Upstart does conflict with Prosperity, so there's that consideration.
The moment people start playing upstart at 3 droll comes back to the main deck.
they released IB!?
Sunavalon is such a pain in the ass to play against. I only faced it once and beat it with DM pendulums, barely. Glad it’s ded.
The way I was about to make a math Mec deck today- this banlist is so random
I saw methamphetamine circuit and immediately thought of you
Perfect banlist. Best one in a while
Labrynth is labbin for sure
I'm just happy they seem to ignore my B fusion 😁
Snatch Steal coming off the list kinda terrifies me.
Why? Isolde be gone
Change of heart is off the list for a year now and is never played. Isolde is banned. This will do nothing
Ive been dying for Ib to come back. Lets fucking go
Orcust gunna go brr???
>"rip bozo mathmech"
>plays mathmech
Another year without Colossus 💔
This Ban List is pretty interesting
finally my boy terrortop is at two
i thought coder didn't even like the new support lmao
My boi circular didn't deserve it
Nice reaction 🎉
Hi Coder hope you're having at least a day
Pretty nice banlist but the forgot kirin
i agree with everything you said except the D barrier limit
Konami fr be getting MASSIVE W’s as of late.
How would one submit their own clip? I just clutched the game of my life and I wanna show people but I have no friends
They hit Isolde but hey left Lab intact??? Oh yes I am salty!
i am (lab player) very happy so let me rub that salt in a little lol
jk jk jk
Unlike Isolde Lab itself is fair. Should have hit eradicator and D barrier though
@@sammydray5919 Yup, Isolde is unfair, not like it could get hit by Ash, Imperm, Veiler...
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes Thats a garbage argument. You can make that same stupid "justification" For most monsters that are on the list. Just Ash, Imperm, Veiler Halq, Verte lol 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes yeah then they make another one And still full combo. It's good that this shit is gone. Hopefully it stays there forever
Plunder don't get hit once again IT'S A GOOD DAY TO BE A PIRATE
DistantCoder always reminds me of Daffy Duck
RIP TCBOO, because in fact there can be only one 😆
Also I think this list is a banger. I only miss colossus to 1 and shifter hit but it's fine.
They're trying bring back sky striker and orcust into the game
Infernity best deck LET’S GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Bought 2 more archfiend and am now brewing.
to rikka player that got dryas and healer banned, i hope you step on a lego. >:/
Shavara hit was still a sad day but yeah dealing with snatch steal is going to be obnoxous
Incredibly based list. Most importantly I’m glad Konami didn’t do a dick move by limiting prosp after its reprint in rarity collection.
Missing calamities
This banlist was Konami's kindest late christmas gift they could ever give to us. We may no longer have such decent banlists for a while
Best list in like 2 years 👌
i no understand ...this man is suposed to play mathmech why is so happy?
PETTHEDOG
Man i was building tcg deck for infernoble and now they take my second isolde
I wish Master Duel actually did something about Mathmech. Unlike the card game they are terrified of hitting anything that’s a UR
Wtf did Mathmech do? It didn't even see play in any formats recently and you still want it to be hit, huh
@@mainganson4069 What are you talking about it dominated for several months when it released not even a year ago and just got shot up to high tier RIGHT NOW with the cyberse support.
@@FrostReavethat deck is nowhere to be seen dude, people are just coping at this point, the dominating decks right now are vanquish soul, d link, and branded. Mathmech hasn’t done anything in MD to even get hit in the slightest.
@@FrostReave even in tcg/ocg the dominating decks right now are unchained and rescue-ace. Mathmech was the top 0.28% played at most in those two formats. Even in its prime, the best Mathmech can do is winning some locals.
If you want to diss the one-card combo, what about kashtira? One single Unicorn or Fenrir can put up far more than one single circular can do. Even when hit by handtrap, except nib, their present alone is an interruption. They can even use the most disturbing handtrap in the game which is shifter. Why not hit kash then?
People being surprised at circular do not read.
What is the problem with snatch steal didn’t play back then it’s seems like a change of heart
But on an equip spell. They unbanned it for one format and then immediately banned it again the next. Everyone used it
Now these days it might be an issue like before but idk